The Daily Zeitgeist - MJGMB #124: Ballers in Paris with Matt Lieb

Episode Date: July 31, 2024

The guys were very pleased to be joined by comedian and podcast host Matt Lieb for today's episode. The trio discussed Team USA and whether they should be concerned heading into games against tougher competition before wrapping things up with another great installment of our '90s Nostalgia' series.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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we're going to get into plenty. We're on tape to last. So we haven't seen the second one. You have. You have. And based on what we saw prior to the Olympics when they faced off against South Sudan, maybe a bit of a nail-biter, but we'll see.

But we'll get into plenty of early tournament talk and continue our 90s Nostalgia Series with comedian and podcast host Matt Lieb on today's episode. I'm Miles Gray. And I'm Jack O'Brien. And this is Miles and Jack on Mad Booskies. youth. That was a very international pronunciation.

I did a boosties. Bienvenue to all of our French listeners who are tuning in for the first time. Because we do see that we are trending in Paris. So thank you so much for listening. They just found out about the NBA from the Olympic basketball. They were just wandering by. They were like, wow, it sounds like a lot of people in there. Went in, saw LeBron James

and were like, where's this guy from? And now they're tuning into our podcast. And now they say, Matt Boosties? Wee wee. Flying through the roof right now. Flying through the roof. Flying through the stratosphere. Matt Lieb, you are also flying through the stratosphere up and down the state. Traveling,

comedian, podcast host, pod yourself a gun gun buy yourself a wire broadcast pat has bara you've got many shows many things you talk about but today we're talking olympics and some 90s nostalgia um i know you were like the olympics started well i heard that i know that it started because i saw clips of the opening ceremony in which there was a death metal band playing. That was rad. That was super cool.

And I was like, oh, I didn't know that the Olympics was sick. Had I known it was sick, I'd have been into it years ago. Yeah. Pretty metal, actually. I thought when they talked about metals, they meant gold metal, silver metal.

Yeah, different alloys. This was aluminum, dude. N-E-T-A-L. Yeah, that's right. Pretty sick. Do you, so how much, did you see any highlights of Team USA? Or should we describe to you what's happening? You know what?

I have not seen a highlight. Didn't know that they started playing. I thought after the ceremony, everyone just kind of like took a two-week breather and said like, okay, you know, now we got to get people. We got gotta start promoing the show like it's the edinburgh fringe festival we gotta get an audience you have that like first big thing but then you want to like give it some room to breathe you don't want to seem too eager yeah look at me we're doing an olympic i mean it's like they're doing it all at the same time. Some people want to see shot put. Some people want to see javelin. Some people want to see international basketball.

Yeah, absolutely. Gun shooting is an event. Yeah, they've got it all. Is that an Olympic sport, shooting guns? Yeah, shooting guns. Oh, we should win. Team USA wins that a lot, right? They don't.

What? Because we're not good with accuracy. I don't know if you've heard. I guess that's true we're just all about firing it off um but the moment my eight-year-old found out shooting was an olympic event that's all he can talk about when's when's shooting on yeah well and they wear the cool goggles too like yeah whatever enhances your aim um yeah that Yeah. That South Korean, like pistol person, that woman who just broke the world record was so wild to record.

For what? Records were like, just like accuracy at 25. Okay. Not like how many times you can spin it around and then put it back in its holster. Like an old West person has very little in common with the quick and the dead.

But, uh, yeah. Sharon stone vehicle. Yes. I feel like that should at least be one of the events is how fast you can

twirl it around. Quick draw? Yeah. Not even quick draw. I'm just talking straight twirling it. Just twirls. Just spinning it.

Yeah. Spinning it and putting it back in the holster. And if you can get it like perfectly in the holster each time, then you get a medal. Like when they finally

remember the skip it toy? You used to put it around your ankle and skip around and it had the little counter on it. But just that twirling. Okay, freestyle gun twirling where you're like skipping over the guns. Synchronized gun twirling. Everyone's doing a dance at the

same time. I feel like I saw this when I watched Hamilton on Broadway. There's a lot of people dancing with muskets. And I was like, okay, all right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sweet. Maybe when they let West Virginia host the Olympics,

maybe we'll get this. Right. When they let Kentucky. Yeah. I've lived in both those places, so I can say it, all right? Yeah, that's true. Yeah.

True son of Appalachia. I can't say it. I'm a, I'm a, I'm a true son of Culver city. Yes. I, I'm a Pacific post liberal elite. Yes. Um, all right. Well, speaking of which I found out that you are born and raised, uh, Angeleno.

That's right. Your choices of the 90s players that you would like to go over. There was like something that they all had in common. I couldn't quite figure it out. Eldon Campbell, Lakers' era Shaq,

Kobe Bryant, and our friend of the show, Robert Ori have in common. My best friend, Robert Ori. Well, a comment. My best friend, Robert Ori. Well, no, actually my best friend, Robert Ori. And also my best friend, Vince Carter. Two of my best friends. I would have to say that.

Probably. Big shot, Rob. If you're out here listening to Rob's a great guy. You'd love Rob. That's the cool thing to say when you know a celebrity. You should meet him he would love you

you can't because he's famous that's right I call him Bobbo but that just became me and him from way downtown Bobbo so Matt I'm guessing we're of similar age,

both raised in the city of Los Angeles. I love that you have Eldon Campbell here from an era of frustration for Lakers fans. Hard time to be a Lakers fan. The Del Harris years, the Randy Fund years. There were some lean years as a Lakers fan in the 90s. Oh, yeah. But, like, Eldon Campbell, what, I think he was our 27th pick? Yes, in the 90s oh yeah like eldon campbell what i think he was our 27th pick yes in the 1990 nba

draft that's because i looked it up in preparation for this i love it is like wait why so why did you tell me why eldon campbell has a a sacred spot in your fan heart okay so eldon campbell for me, became my favorite basketball player. Not because of basketball. Okay. But because in middle school, I had a summer school teacher named Mr. Campbell. Okay. Who was the strangest teacher. He sounded like Morgan Freeman.

And the students were not nice to him. He would say, like, teacher, abuse. Teacher, abuse. Like, it, the students were not nice to him. He would say like, teacher abuse, teacher abuse. Like it was very strange the way he would speak. But then he, at one point he was like, my brother Eldon plays for the Lakers.

And I was like, wait, Eldon Campbell is your brother. And he's like, you have told the story before, maybe on daily zeitgeist. Maybe. Did I tell on Daily Zeitgeist?

Yeah. But that's okay. I want to know it again. It's very important for what we're talking about right now. To be completely honest, when you're a kid that age, you just believe everything. And now, I've never thought to Google it. Does he have a brother who was a middle school teacher in los angeles or middle school summer school teacher in los angeles and uh you know i i i hope it wasn't a lie he didn't seem

like the type of guy who lied he in fact you know his transatlantic accent did seem real i don't think he was putting it on but uh just him saying his brother was, you know, a Lakers fan. Whoa. What's that? That was all I needed. Yeah, exactly. And I was like, oh, man, that's cool.

And then I just, you know, started watching the Lakers more so than ever because I felt like I had a connection to them because of Elton Campbell's weird brother. Even though he had this Kennedy-esque accent, it's funny because Elton Campbell is from Englewood, California. Are you speaking in Englewood dialect? Yeah, maybe that's just like somewhere in Englewood, there's just one hood in which everyone's like, we speak like Morgan Freeman. Yeah. Great gardens. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm from the wood. The seven acre wood? No. The seven acre wood. It's a blustery day. It's a blustery day in the seven acre wood. Christopher Robin.

Yeah. I also actually, you know, if you look at like career stats for Elton Campbell, like he's not bad, you know, he just he didn't get respect because, you know, eventually they had a better center. Yes. But he

was a standout in Bulls versus Lakers. The Sega Genesis game. He's right. He had a signature move. There were a handful of players who had signature moves. Jordan would go down the lane, do the right hand to left hand layup.

Magic would go down the lane. It was always going down the lane. It was just like you get in one position, headed towards the basket, hit the right combination of buttons, and they would get one. But his was just like a reverse dunk near the basket. hit the right combination of buttons, and they would get one. But his was just like a reverse dunk near the basket, I think. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. If you look closely, in the background of the game, in the crowd, you can see his brother, the middle teacher, Mr. Campbell, going, T.J. Abuse. T.J. Abuse. He sounds like somebody who would be like, oh, you did a sports ball, Tevin. Yeah, 100%. Yeah, Tevin.vin yeah 100 elton yes yes i've had

the line i've had the line saying goodbye like tevin campbell in my head since we started talking about elton campbell for some reason it's a i think a wood tangler no i remember though too when elton went to the pistons and we faced him off in the 2004 finals, which we did not win, unfortunately. I know. I remember. He put in quite a shift against our dear Shaquille, and that was a bit of a bitter pill to swallow also. But yeah. I was glad to see Eldon get a ring,

and not on the lake. Just be like, like hey take that shack i think you're so good you know what i mean shack he's so big so good yeah because i'm hot and we traded away for him what in 99 and that's when like is that when glenn rice came oh yeah 99 yeah yeah yeah yeah he was on that first lakers championship team and i was like and yeah we had you're the reason baby yeah we shipped out eddie jones and uh eldon campbell which was very very difficult for me as a big eddie jones fan to see but yeah eddie jones was uh another one he was almost on the list too but i felt like i you know maybe too many lakers yeah you know i can't have every single

you know laker laker yeah yeah you know kurt rambis dell harris wait he's the coach yeah i want to talk about him too yeah yeah can we just talk about dell yeah what great great gray hair he had uhq I think is an obvious choice you're also getting to Shaq and Kobe before anybody else this is our second 90s player run through so congratulations

no one else did Shaq and Kobe? no we've only done one week worth of 90s player look backs well I'm glad because I feel like those two are obscure choices. People really remember back in the day

there was this three-peat championship team called the Los Angeles Lakers. But the Eldon Campbell competition is out of control. Everyone's picking Eldon. People are canceling now that they've heard that Eldon Campbell is off the board. Sorry! They want to talk about Eldon. People are canceling now that they've heard that Eldon Campbell is off the board. Yeah.

Sorry. They want to talk about Eldon. Big E. The Big E. Lakers, Shaq. I mean, so between Shaq and Kobe did like... I was a Kobe guy. You're a Kobe guy.

Yeah. I always felt like... Because Kobe, you know, he didn't get no respect. That's what I felt about Kobe. Rodney Dangerfield of the nba he was he really was and uh you know i i felt like shack was such a you know uh he was a behemoth you know he was like uh not just a franchise player but like an nba superstar and ko Kobe was too, of course, obviously. But they were always,

you know, it was always like Shaq, greatest center of all time. This is early on before Kobe proved himself to be one of the greatest basketball players of all time. I feel like Shaq was as famous when he was with the Magic as he was when he was with

the... He was so famous already like like he had he had the movies already by the time he got to the lakers where it was like he was already selling albums you know what i mean where he had a video game called shack foo he had kazam he had steel uh he had the albums he had like the clothing brand twism let's not forget that either that's right i forgot about twism yeah i had a twism i had one of the jankiest twism jerseys you've ever seen because my mom found it at ross because i was begging for twism gear yeah yeah and you couldn't find it anywhere and my mom bless her heart you could get the irregular ones that at rock yeah like this one had you know how like remember that like get me an irregular twism yeah it can be a b-grade a b-grade a b-grade twism shirt you remember that

shimmer sheen material that all the basketball shorts were made of in the 90s that like if you had a cat and it errantly scratched it it like ruined the entire it was like one thread and the whole thing is dead it's like scrunched on the side i remember when she brought it back for ross it had one of those scratches in it and i'm like okay so this is why i was at ross but i was like so in love with it because i was like yes i am part of the world is mine which is what i'm stood for the twism movement um yeah he had i mean shack was just such a like you know like in the era of the big superstars like with michael jordan taking up all the oxygen like having a big guy like shack who felt like a fun lovable kid whose gigantic shoe was in every mall in america for some reason because everyone's like get a load of this guy's foot yes yeah and became like the number one novelty item in america

like yeah surpassing giant ball of string it was like shack shoe yeah yeah no it was it was like roadside attraction famous like people were just like look look at this freak and it was it was crazy too because like in the era of michael Jordan, which he is taking up all of the space, to even have another superstar who also had... He was a Reebok guy, so he had his silhouette on there. They tried to make that happen. Yeah. And he hadn't even won a championship yet you know it

took him you know a few years he had gone to the finals with the magic but he had not won a ring and he was beaten by uh you know like better centers yeah yeah and still he was like this big superstar so when he went to the lakers i was like this is cool but also you know all y'all are bandwagon i've loved the lakers ever since my middle school teacher teacher was elton campbell's brother lied to me and told me he was elton campbell's brother tall yeah very tall that was the other thing that i believed so i'm gonna i'm gonna believe it and i also was like eldon is a is is you know this guy has a weird accent but eldon does seem like the type of name you would have if your whole family had files would name yeah yes like a transatlantic accent

family would name their kid l right right um yeah and so yeah uh so i was always like you know kobe doesn't get respect like everyone's buying shack albums nobody's buying thug poetry yeah and and i was like you know he's a he's not a great rapper but he can rap in italian why do people not respect this guy yeah one that you won the dunk contest you know uh and then when the dunk contest did did kobe not win the dunk contest am i crazy in the dunk i thought he did that was like his second or first year like as a yeah i thought he did like in the first first year 97 how is that more iconic that he was iconic he he uh he has like uh his what was his move it was oh man it's been so long. But it was like, he definitely dunked the ball good.

I remember that. All right. Yeah, I just wanted to make sure he dunked the ball good. Here's a refresher for Kobe's dunk contest in 1997. The thing that I remember was that he wore his shooting shirt for it, which was very like, oh, okay, we like that. And I remember wanting a shooting shirt. 18 years old, 6'6". Yeah wanting a shooting shirt. 18 years old.

Yeah. Okay. 18 years old. Here's his second year. Okay. 18 years old his second year. Exactly. Straight out of high school. Oh.

Wore his shooting shirt the whole time yeah casual casual also kind of a mistake because why is this not more iconic you say a mistake but

you know you didn't win the shooting shirt comes off oh then they'll do it one more time. And he went through the legs and then flexed. No, but what's the big one? Show us his last one, I think. Oh, yeah, Brandy's in the audience.

Brandy's in the audience. That is important because he totally took Brandy to the prom, right? He did take Brandy. Yes, he did. He took Brandy to the prom. Kobe. And then what was this one? Oh, a bounce. He tried toy to the front. Kobe. And then what was this one? Oh, a bounce. He tried to go for a bounce between the legs.

Oh. I don't want to see that replay. That's not nice. All right, so here's the last one. We saw Michael Finley already. But through the leg was definitely, like, the most iconic one. And, yeah. Oh, yeah. This is, like, pumped back. Yeah. Yeah. the through the leg was definitely like the most iconic one and oh yeah this is like pumped back yeah

like so he he proved himself to be athletically like one of the greatest and then you know everyone just called him a ball hog for his first like three four years in the NBA which was true you know

he averaged five steals from his teammates per year just uh a status bro yeah but it was but no but you could see that belief in him too i remember like one of the playoff series against the jazz and he was throwing up so many shots i was like dude relax like yeah you aren't the answer to this right now but you could tell that like that turned into what kobe then became which is like that real self-belief in himself and be like i'm not i'm not serious i'm like i'm not joking i will i will negate every contribution from this other team by myself if i have to yeah and yeah that was a thing that was a little bit i remember being frustrated as a young fan

because it just didn't feel like his belief was matching what was showing up on the court, but then when those things were reconciled, oh yeah. And once everything started to come together, once they were running the triangle, once they got Phil Jackson,

they immediately were winning championships. People were still talking trash Phil Jackson, they immediately were winning championships. And he was still, you know, people were still, you know, talking trash. And I was like, you're wrong. Kobe's Jordan. And then like, LeBron James came out in 2003

and I was like, whoa, Kobe. I still hate LeBron. You still don't like LeBron from just that. Just from people trying to shift the focus away from my man Kobe. And this is for people who don't live in

LA. This is how most Lakers fans, I feel like. A sickness that most Lakers fans have is they resent that LeBron came to the Lakers and won a championship. Yeah. I hate this guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

They're like, I hate this guy. I'm like, he's just coming here. He just wants to win one with our Jersey on. Yeah. Exactly. Lakers fans coined the term Mickey Mouse.

First of all, good branding for Disneyland. Second of all, uh, we don't like this guy. Oh man. A question that just occurred to me about shack because arguably he went into the profession where the thing that is most notable about him is the least

remarkable which is like he's around other people who who are huge right he like makes them look small by comparison yeah like shack is i don't think people understand yeah how big shack is he's seven two and just huge in every direction yes and do we think he would have had a like he would have been world famous if he just like never picked up a basketball oh just because like look at this big guy he would be a big guy who's like incredibly like charismatic and cool and like yes wait so in this alternate universe where where does he what's his path he goes does he go to lsu still i don't know if he goes to lsu but like wwe maybe yeah oh interesting i could see him being like an Andre the Giant.

Yeah, like an Andre the Giant. People, by the way, forget how big Andre the Giant was. He's another one who was like, when you think he's a giant, you're just like, oh, there's giants in the NBA. No, he's like Shaq. He's like wide in every direction. Hold a can of Coke

and have your mind blown. Right. Yeah. Every finger is the size of a two liter bottle you're just like what the hell but yeah no he was like always one of those guys who I think people you know

you saw him as kind of a freak you know what I mean it was just like damn this guy's huge but what made him amazing was the quickness dude. He was fast. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He would have wanted,

you would have wanted him doing something athletic. Maybe in this scenario, he's just like the world's greatest NFL something or other. Yeah. Oh my God. Could you imagine someone that like that tall? He played center in the NFL, whatever team, the people rushing

behind him, you think the tush push is effective with normal people? An actual superhero. Like linebacker? Don't throw it to me over the middle. Leave me alone.

He would literally kill people. People would have died. Oh, Shaquille. We adore you. Shall we take a quick break? Yeah, let's take a quick break and then we're going to tilt our eyes over toward Paris.

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Tilt our eyes? Tilt our eyes? how do you even do that why do i do this i'm such an idiot honey honey does this make sense let's tilt our eyes over this way what nothing never mind what'd you say nothing something everyone says it's actually super poetic and normal it was on thug poet kobe bryant's album was that really the name of his album yeah all right that's what we need to do for uh one of our summer episodes oh i would love it yeah yeah it's not great oh man it's i mean because that

was yeah that's not a good description of you, Kobe Bryant. I know, I know. Both of those things are very much... Neither thug nor poet. It's okay. Yeah, very much projections of things he, like, wanted to be. Yeah. He's like, you know what would be a good Tupac album name?

Why don't I just do it? Why don't I just make that the name of my album? What about this Thug Mansion? That's, I think, take it. Oh, man. All right. I'll try some of those. Shout out to him, though, for what he did for LeBron's game in the Olympics by being

on the same team with him and just showing them how hard you have to work to be an evolutionary player in the NBA like you know like somebody who's like it moves the game forward that's right and LeBron and a lot of the players from that generation talk about being on the same Olympics with him and being like oh he wakes up at five every morning yeah I know he's the OG grind set mindset guy and it kind of like ruined he accidentally ruined generation of men but like i think that was youtube i don't think yeah yeah i don't blame him for that but mamba mentality became so synonymous with so many things i think because yeah like it it worked for him now does that work for your budding business of doing decals on automobiles

will it work for your all-meat diet possibly you know maybe see all right we're going to talk about the uh usa's first game against serbia but first i want to talk about my man victor my man our man sure boy our man. Our man. Sure boy. Our man. Victor Wembyn Yama. Yeah. What a, what an outing he's had.

Two victories for France so far. And he's been. Controversial. I will say controversial win against Japan. Against Japan. That was a close one. Oh, I missed it.

So why was it controversial? Because Rui Hachimura was playing in a way that was bringing tears to my eyes in a good way and he just got so hot that like they really were starting to close the game down against france he was hitting back-to-back threes and then suddenly he was ejected for some like not truly ejectable offenses based on what we've seen across the olympics which raised a lot of you know people were like god this is a this is a sham or whatever but it was a bit uh i i feel like france was a little bit lucky uh in that second game yeah but they i mean they were a lot lucky i think it was under a minute they were down four against japan yeah and got a soft four-point play call yeah i don't know if it was soft the guy did you see

i might i might have missed the replay. This sounds like a scandal, you guys. This is like one of those Olympic scandals. Call Olivia Pope. It's a scandal. Well, unfortunately, we know that Olympic refereeing has never done anything shady, so we're good

here. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, Webinyama's been playing quite well, I gotta say. So he played great in their first one against Brazil. It was just a lot of highlights,

a lot of blocks, just a lot, yeah. Everyone was like, oh, this is a new world while watching him play. There's not much you can do about it it's it's interesting because they still like don't play like he he still like feels like he hasn't been unleashed he feels unleashed yeah by in this uh setting which is weird i feel like this is us getting to see

what it would look like if he had gone to college. Like the Olympic basketball feels like the best players in the world playing college basketball to me. Like the spacing is weird. The style is weird. And yeah, it's all just, but he still has been incredible.

In the game against Japan, one of the headlines was like, Japan keeps Wemby Yama under control or holds Wemby Yama, keeps him from going wild. He had 18-11-6 with two blocks and two shields and like basically took over in overtime i think yeah that headline is sort of like well he didn't score 20 points right so they kept him under control like those other stats yeah sure sure um yeah i will i really

had to borrow took one jump like had this one jump shot early in the game over him, and I was like, brave, brave. Yeah. But, yeah, Wemby just truly continues, like, to evolve and get stronger and is turning into a young man before our eyes. I'm catching every France game. Like, that's just a deal I've made with myself.

I'm trying to think who's the last like, you know, Tony Parker. Yeah. Tony Parker. Is he the last franchise France man? Franchise? Franchise player? Yeah. You know, like I mean, Rudy Gobert, if you ask Minnesota,

based on what they paid for him, but yeah. But if we're talking rings, you know what I mean? Well, rings. Tony Parker's got to be the only man in all of France who's ever won. But he was never the best player on a single one of those teams. Yeah, sure.

But he was pretty good. I mean, when it comes to that era of basketball and all of the different point guards that, uh, Derek Fisher made famous. Um,

you know, he's one of them, you know? Yeah. Thank you. That's right. That's, that's historical fact.

Shout out to Derek. I love you. If you listen to this podcast, be my friend, Derek, be my friend. And invite me over to a cookout with Robert Ori, please.

One compliment I have to pay to our partners of this podcast, the NBA, um, is their smart forward thinking position on allowing people to share social media clips. Yeah. Plays from NBA games. Yeah.

Like you get about 20 minutes to watch a highlight of Olympic basketball on Twitter before NBC is taking it down. And it's truly, it just like makes the impact of these plays and of these games like less. It just like penetrates less in the culture. And it's a bummer. Like, I just wish they'd be like, no, this is awesome. We're excited to be here. And yeah, watch the best players in the world do awesome things that's almost great point it's yeah it feels like it feels like a snapchat or something we're like ah well you didn't you didn't see it in time yeah i'm like ah but i like the highlights but yeah

um i probably would have known the olympics started had they allowed the highlights, but yeah. I probably would have known the Olympics started had they allowed the highlights on Twitter. I'm on Twitter all the time waiting for highlights. Right. Team USA's next game is Wednesday versus South Sudan, so it may have already happened.

As you listen to this, the U.S. is favored by 30. This seems incorrect. just across the board looking at how good all the teams are that's the other my other takeaway from the olympics is like all of these teams look really good again the spacing is such that it's it's cluttered in there. I don't think the U S is like noticeably so far superior this time around. Um, I will, I think they'll be lucky to,

to win a gold medal. Whereas in the past, it's been like a disappointment. I really do like that. There's just so many good teams. I think they are the best team, but it's, you know,

it gets to a point where it's single elimination. They're playing really good teams who have played a long time together and they're just getting still getting used to each other and it shows but yeah who won Olympic basketball last last Olympics didn't win the world title last year. Right. The FIBA World. Yeah, so. With Sam Alphabat.

Yeah, and they weren't really close that time. Yeah. But we do have LeBron James, and most importantly, I mean, most importantly, probably LeBron. I'm sorry to say, Matt. But KD was, KD always comes to play in the

Olympics and he still feels like the one player who you see out there and he follows through on the promise that like oh we have an NBA player we have NBA guys non NBA players

he looked like it was on easy mode for him and nobody else. He went 8 for 8 in the first quarter, 5 for 5 from 3 and just looked like Kevin Durant playing against people who were not up to his level. And then

also was hitting impossible shots. He was just so hot. The opponent level aside, he was just so dialed in it was freaky that like it felt like when it's like they got a ringer who's this dude yeah yeah hold on check his credentials is he from the nba against yokich the best player in the world by a lot of people standards and yeah you know um the rotation is interesting like they i mean i think it's going to be different game to game but yeah like ad still not playing that much even though when he played in the

qualifying and like tune-up matches he would look like the best player a lot of times or at least the best big man uh they still they like we're doing big man by committee type, like just like they treated ad Joelle and bead and bam. Like they were just like big bodies that you're like throwing at people to collect. It was like 20 minutes each. We're just like, I don't know, go out there and collect some fouls against Yoke.

Itch. Yeah. Don't fully foul out, but like they get two or three in there. All right. Yeah. Real quick. Real quick.

Real quick. Brom was awesome. Steph looked really, uh, solid in his minutes um booker i wanted to uh call out uh producer jabari was noting that like somebody in 2023 tweeted uh oh kyle kuzma somebody hey hey he's somebody fan some fan some basketball fan uh named kyle kuzma in 2023 kuzma uh tweeted usa basketball better get some nba stars that know how to play a role anybody can be nice with the ball in their hands but can you be cool with defending and going to the corner for a few possessions uh And Devin Booker said, I'll do it. And he

was true to his word in this first game. He was just out there. Too many people who think they're the best player in the world or the best player on the court. And things don't always work out. So you need people

who are still going to be like all right that's lebron james we're gonna yeah or even regardless of being like well i'll acknowledge this guy's better than me it's just more like we all have to play a role for the team to defeat the other teams because the you know solo hero stuff isn't always going to work out for us in this game yeah uh yeah but that was interesting to see because Jason Tatum and Tyrese Halliburton did not play. Yeah. Uh,

in that game. And people were doing like flippant highlight reels of like, you're like, yo, check out Tyrese and Tatum's like mixtape from the highlight tape. And it's just all them cheering from the bench. Yeah. Um,

but like Halliburton, you could tell it was like, this is great like I'm with this this is all okay Jason Tatum though I understand you just came off of a NBA championship he was a little bit more sulky

I mean Derek White is playing and he's not playing in that game Derek White is you know coming into last season was probably seen as the fourth best player on their team you know coming into last season was probably seen as the fourth best player on their team yeah you know um and uh also drew holiday is playing the third best player on that team yeah and he is supposed to be the best player on that team but i think it speaks to what jabari was calling out with the devin booker thing is like you need people who are willing to

be the other guy on the court like energetically and in terms of the role you're filling and if I'm if I'm any of these guys I'm like please bench me I do not want to be injured and I play

basketball for a living I get paid you don't understand steve i get paid so much money to play basketball in the nba i love america but not like hold on my job for free love america leave are you eating a baguette sandwich right now yeah i'm trying to enjoy myself i'm gonna eat a croissant. No, I'm good. I'm good. Don't worry about me. Look, I'm just here for the medal, man.

I'm just happy to, honestly, just so happy to be here. I've never been to France before. Yeah, just stuffing pastries into my mouth. Like, I'm just happy to help my team or anywhere possible. Like that Russell Westbrook clip when he was like, looking over his shoulder and eating something. He's eating a fiselle sandwich sandwich but Kerr said he specifically like had multiple conversations with

Tatum before the game and after the game to be like this is what's happening sorry we're gonna need you against South Sudan but like in terms of our you know game plan for this game like we need to just cycle in

big bodies I guess was their game plan and it worked I mean say what you will about like how tight the tune up game against South Sudan was and Germany but the US seems to have Serbia's number at least because they

waxed them in the tune-up and then again in the Olympics. Good. And Jokic stinks. We can all agree on that, right? This guy is not good at basketball anymore. He was playing in the sport that's not really his preferred sport in the Olympics. He would have liked to have been in the dressage

or some of the equestrian events. He is kind of the dancing horse of the NBA. That's right. But I mean, I look at those Sudan odds, we're favored by 30. Well, we beat Serbia by 26. Okay, so Jabari, thank you.

We were 12.5 point favorites over Serbia. We beat them by... I mean, I guess you do south sudan is just interesting just doing like nba like put the number of nba guys on the team on one side of the scale and like whoever has the most but that doesn't seem to be how things work in this modern version of international basketball yeah and i think i mean that's why the south sudan game will be interesting to be like okay was what we saw in those tune-up matches a bit of a fluke? Or, you know, South Sudan was really performing well, and they have a really, like, I didn't realize Luol Deng was personally financing the South Sudan basketball team for the last four years.

Yeah. And I was like, okay, well, look. We need to look into that. We need to look into that. One man is helping out his fellow countrymen to achieve new heights after their war shoot it was us the lakers yeah exactly i'm like well we did a good thing with that contract at least but yeah i am that'll be a really really fun one to watch and And look, as it's happening, who knows? They, the U S may have absolutely just, uh,

run rough shot over them, but I don't, I don't, I don't, because they're, this is the thing that I feel like we saw in the, the playoffs and the NBA this year is like when you have a lot of speed, like really fast guards and then you're going up against 38,

39 year old LeBon james like it's a pro like and i saw it with like cheering for a team that has mb'd on it is like yeah he's a stopper in the middle but he's also like there's just so many ways to get those guys out away from the basket now and in space that i don't know south, I think, is a problem for the U.S. Are they fast? They're fast, and they can shoot. Fast and can shoot. Fast and can shoot can sometimes win games.

Exactly. If there's one thing I know about basketball, Mr. Miyagi style wisdom. Being fast and shoot can win games. No can defense. No can defense against fast guy who can shoot. Giannis has been incredible and Greece is 0-2. He's got 61 points through two games.

Pretty good. It was funny because I had temporarily forgotten about Giannis and I was like, is Wembingama the person that I would like put on the US if I could like pull a player from an international team it's probably still Janus but Wembingama also I mean Jokic could be in that conversation too I feel like

I told you this guy stinks I like the horse guy he's my one favorite bad guy from the team that haunts my dreams Jokic would actually be the answer, probably, because, yeah, he would distribute the ball. Well, yeah, if you were doing it based on who's the best at basketball. If you're doing it, yes. Oh, okay.

Objective metric. All right, we're talking about who's the best at basketball. If you're doing it based on who you like the most, Giannis. Yeah, 100%. It's Rui Hachimura. Sorry. Sorry, losers. Anyways, I'm enjoying the olympics yeah it's good it's good to have some

fun basketball to watch and especially with such a such a high concentration of nba players it makes it so much more enjoyable you know what i'm gonna i'm gonna turn it on i'm gonna start watching it is all right it doesn't start in two weeks yeah yeah check back in two weeks man i'll text you i'll text you all about it i need some lead-up time i can't just go directly into it you know i get it i go get peacock and then i gotta go get a tv and then i gotta buy the internet yeah you know it's a whole bunch of stuff and then just the the opportunity to see Anthony Edwards interacting with the world off court is fun what is he doing in the world

like just walking through the streets of Paris is he doing the revolution tour yeah he's doing a bit of a flirt yeah adorable we love him alright let's take a quick break

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I'm in the hot seat already. My wife's yelling at me. I'm in trouble with the missus, guys. No, I'm in the doghouse. Whoa. No man listening to this podcast can relate. Just slide my dinner under the door tonight. I don't get no respect like Kobe Bryant. What does a guy got to do?

What does a guy got to do? It's time for the fourth quarter Rapify round of questioning. You already know what time it is, Matt. We ask you a question. Just respond quickly. You've got to keep it moving. We have some questions,

some from our Discord, some from our brains, some we ask all of our guests. Are you ready? Oh, yes. See, two-star already, Matt. He's already starting the clock. He's already yelling at Brian.

You've got to hurry up, man. You've got to hurry up. What's your answer? You ready? Sorry, the clock started. Welcome to rapid brian you've got to hurry up man you've got to hurry up what's your answer you're ready sorry the clock started welcome to rapid fire oh okay rapid fire okay here we go okay uh it's the rapid oh okay who goes first rapid fire round of questions i want to go first it's me jack i want to ask her hey matt uh hey matt first time long time uh wait sorry that's wrong but uh they were all right so from our discord uh they're

debating yes perfect uh on to you miles back okay discord they were debating katie's best nickname we've got easy money sniper we got tarantula we got the slim reaper so first of all which of those nicknames um and he he has a very specific choice of those. Yeah, Kevin Durant, yep. Kevin Durant does. But, yeah, first of all, I want to hear your pick. And then second of all, I want to hear your pick for the best player nicknames of all time. Okay.

So, my pick for what? For Kevin Durant's nicknames? Between Easy Money Sniper, Durantula, or Slim Reaper. Okay. Well, I mean, for Kevin Durant. Easy money sniper, Durantula, or Slim Reaper. Okay. Well, I mean, I love Durantula. I think that to me describes him perfectly because I remember the first time

seeing Kevin Durant. I was like, this guy's like a spider. Incorrect. That is Caitlin Durante's nickname. No, that, yeah.

Durantula rules. Yeah. Durantula does rule. Okay. And best nickname? Yeah. Yeah, Durantula does rule. Okay, and best nickname? Yeah. Anthony Peeler, the Iceman. Now you may be wondering, what do you mean? He's not the Iceman.

Well, one time my friend got his autograph and he signed it, Anthony the Iceman Peeler. He went, what? And he was confused by it because Anthony Peelereler that's not his name uh so yeah held in the ice man campbell everyone's just the soup man campbell anthony tarantula miller like wait a second oh man do you do we did you ever figure out why he signed that was you like yeah all right guy i that or was he like yeah alright guy I think he was just trying to make the Iceman happen he was like you know what would be a cool nickname

the Iceman and the way I'll start it is slowly I'll just sign children's autographs and you know put the Iceman see if it sticks but that was George Gervin's nickname George Gervin is in the past that's the past why are you gonna keep focusing on the past you know my name is gonna be air jordan

what that was the last miles of air jordan gray like air air peeler yeah yeah i'm jordan what you can do with peeler though you know yeah i know yeah potato you know yeah you know watch out get skinned by the peeler you don't know what happened that's all actually the peeler is like it goes too dark i think yeah it's a little it's a little horror film it does Bill. Yeah. Wait a second. Buffalo Bill Peeler. She's a great big tall person. You know what paid is. Precious. Alright.

Here's another one. Matt Leib specifically. From your playing career ever from childhood on what was your personal highlight for you as a basketball player? What is the greatest thing you achieved on the court? I'm a great big tall man. Six foot six.

240 pounds. All fat. No muscle. So the highlight of my career is half court pickup game in which I at this point had been exercising a lot so I I had a little I was a little bit okay at basketball okay and for the first time ever I saw a lane open and I ran with the ball and I thunked it what uh I did a pickup game in a pickup game? In a pickup game. Of basketball?

Of basketball. As soon as I did it, everyone started laughing. And I was like, well, I don't know why you're laughing. I just dunked the ball. And they're like, you just traveled eight steps. I had forgotten about dribbling. Because I was scared that if I dribbled they'd steal it so I just started running like rugby dunk

yeah exactly but you know I didn't think it was like you know it doesn't count in a pickup game but there's no traveling on the street if you complete the dunk I thought everyone would forget that and just be like oh you know

whoa he dunked it it was a two handed dunk it didn't like look good I thought everyone would forget that and just be like, oh, you know. Whoa, he dunked it. You can't fake the funk on that. It was a two-handed dunk. It didn't look good, but I was like, I saw a lane. You're like, ah! You're like, um! I pulled my armpit muscle from stretching my arms too long.

Two-hander or you go one-handy on it? Oh, two-hander. Two-hander. Yeah, my arms straight up and I just went, as I saw the lane and uh apparently people didn't i just love like thinking about it like from your perspective and then like in a comedy film and then cut to what actually happened where you're like you got the ball you see defender shift you're like there it is baby i'm going for it then hard cut to you like running from half court like taking little steps extra little steps as i got closer

and then bending your knees so low that your butt touches the ground it was uh not as graceful irl as it was in my mind but yeah time did slow down when i saw that lane oh my gosh okay uh next question and i might have an idea who you're gonna pick based on what you've said about your favorite player and who doesn't get respect but between the 2008 uh team usa team or the 2024 usa team who do you select as your better team? Who is your champion? Who are you riding with? Matt, pick

your better team. Listen, you're talking about who would I pick between 2008 and 2024? There's zero question. You know I'm picking 2008. There it is. And the reason I'm picking 2008 is I believe that that team, what was it? It was either like four years earlier or whatnot.

There was a year where we didn't win. Yeah, four years earlier, 2004. And I remember being like, that's a disgrace. We're America, and we didn't even win and I don't know if Kobe was even on that team in 2004 I think he was

nope I'm glad Jabari is here to just correct him keep the misinformation Kobe never won a dunk contest and he was on the 2004 team you obviously you're biased

against Kobe so everything good that ever happened you're like no but the truth of it is is that he wasn't on that team in 2004 and I said well that's why that's why and then 2008 well it was great it was like watching America win like yeah it was the it was like watching America win like yeah

the redeem team that's right and yeah so 2008 whereas like this team I don't honestly I don't think they have it in them you don't think so yeah look I look at that I look at this you know USA basketball team and I'm just like

who? I've never heard of these guys it could be because I haven't watched basketball since 2012 but I don't think it's that I think it's honestly like Halliburton what?

who's that? Joel Embiid? what? what do you mean? LeBron who? Never heard of LeBron James before. Wow, that's amazing for somebody who watched basketball all the way up to 2012. I hate him.

Yeah. He's very selective. Never heard of him. Never heard of me. But yeah, 2008. All the way, baby. Redeemed team. All right.

Last thing. You have to replenish our list of 90s basketball players that we are talking about in the off season. We need a few more names of people that our future guests can pick from. Because we've taken Kobe

off the board. We've taken Shaq off the board. We've taken Robert Ory and Eldon Campbell off the board. So can you add three players we'll leave because we didn't really spend a lot of time talking about our best friend there should be a whole podcast it's just the ori podcast just worry hour yeah yeah um okay so three more 90s era basketball players that we can our guests can pick from? Latrell Sprewell. Okay. Ooh, good one. Spree, love that.

I mean, Vladi Divac. Okay. A very good one, yeah. Vladi. And who's fun? Is it true that Vladi smoked his whole NBA career? If everything I've read

is true, yes. That rules. It definitely looks like it, but it's almost like career that's yeah everything i've read is true yes yeah i mean rules yeah yeah no he definitely looks like it but it's almost like is it just because he looked like that yeah no i it might be who knows i could just be you know projecting because he looks like a guy who smokes fat like a denny right right right and he's daring someone to be like that guy's smoking a cigarette again have you seen him he's huge just asks is it cool if i smoke in here in every room he enters yeah is it cool if i smoke in here uh it's the year 2024 so no what okay last breathe la de and uh let's let's make it someone fun let's make it someone fun. Let's make it someone

everybody enjoys. Sam Cassell. Yeah, Sam Cassell. This is a great list. I'm loving it. Those are fun guys. I like Sam. Amazing. Well, Matt, I believe you have answered every one of the questions exactly

correctly. Sorry. He does. He does. There needs to be more Halloween masks of Sam Castello's face. We will also, we're going to, just for good measure, add Anthony the Iceman

Peeler to the list. Add Anthony the Iceman Peeler to it. All right. Matt, you did it. You nailed it. It's been a pleasure. It's been a pleasure having you. It's been a pleasure. I guess I'm watching too much French

Olympics. You just sounded very Italian. French. It's been a pleasure. Mario from France. From Paris. Where do they find you and follow you and all that stuff? Find me on Instagram at Matt Leib Jokes.

And follow me on Twitter at Matt Leib. M-A-T-T-L-I-E-B. And yeah, I do a bunch of podcasts. So if you like podcasts about either politics or TV rewatch, check them out. You'll find them for all my social media. You can find our show at the hashtag MadBoosties, B-O-O-S-T-I-E-S.

And you can also, that's where you'll find show notes, also stuff for the Discord server if you want to join up and get in on the combo on Discord. You can find me at MilesOfRay. I'm at jack underscore O'Brien. And that was

your latest episode of Miles and Jack Got Mad Boosties. Until next time, we will have even more developments with Olympic basketball and even more 90s nostalgia as we enjoy our summer

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