The Daily Zeitgeist - MJGMB #127: Expectations for the Upcoming Season with Jason Timpf

Episode Date: August 21, 2024

The guys were pleased to be joined by former college player and current podcaster for The Volume, Jason Timpf, on today's episode. The trio discussed some of the latest news and notes from around the league, expectations for several teams before wrapping up our 90s Nostalgia conversation with Iverson, Hakeem and Rodman!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Jason Timp of The Volume. Look, providing a lot of great analysis on Twitter. Now working alongside and for Colin Coward at the volume Jason thank you so much for joining us man welcome to Bison Jack I'm at boosties of course man thanks for having me on uh yeah I I really enjoyed the Team USA stuff the one downside is is like I look up and it's August 20 yeah and I feel like the season's really close already and I was kind of looking forward to some downtime but the tv just kept us busy man yeah right yeah i like i'm gonna be enjoying these last this last month and taking it easy but like we yeah man it just it's crazy it's crazy how long the season is seriously and

i mean the one silver lining is at least once media day comes we get a new jimmy pick so you know that'll be what do you think he's gonna go with oh man maybe like what if he kind of was like what was the one two you think he's gonna go beetlejuice there's gonna be a tie-in um no wait so it was emo jimmy last year and before that it was just like kind of long yeah yeah he had yeah he had like dreads he had like long dreads um so yeah i mean i don't know what the escalation but it was just like two of them right it's just like two really long dreads yeah yeah i don't know i mean it it was definitely wild i think it depended on how he styled it based on the press conference but yeah yeah it was like

millie and vanilli yeah yeah. But like a little thinner. Angel hair, Millie, Vanille. Angel hair, Millies. Angel hair, Millies. Jason, I got to say, you know, we have a lot of people on this show. But, you know, on your Twitter, you have... So we're just going to tell you that up front. So don't be intimidated. We've got a lot of people on this show.

We've had a lot of people. Vince Carter, Robert Horry. A lot of guys. Yeah. But one thing is, you know, a lot of people don't have boosties. I saw your mixtape that you have at the top of your Twitter. In fact, it's kind of a rule.

We're like, Jabari, don't be bringing people onto this show who have mad boosties and thus make us look like we don't have mad boosties. Yeah. The only people we will allow are nba legends because obviously but and then but when it comes to other people who talk basketball and stuff like that i'm like i can't get postered by this guy dude you're nice with it i gotta say

some you got some skills bro 360 i'm your textbook uh i was a late bloomer so i just have like a big chip on my shoulder so like i i just take basketball way too seriously for a 33 year old who doesn't care for a living yeah it is what it is i i thankfully have a wife who supports the obsession and uh uh dude i've just i i know i had this like feeling like i i know that this is like my last little window of being able to play a little bit so i'm trying to just embrace it and lean into it. And then hopefully I'll age gracefully and accept the end when it comes. Because what I don't feel like doing is getting cooked up by these old guys.

I was literally talking to a buddy of mine who was just playing a pickup game with Joe Lakob. And I was like, what is his old ass doing out there? Like, what are you doing? Like, and he ended up, my buddy played at Stanford. I'm like, I feel like at a certain point, you just got to accept reality and walk gracefully into the sunset so that doesn't make you good at basketball owning a team full of good basketball players that you you aren't suddenly you don't suddenly acquire their skills shockingly not shocking

yeah he was like hitting a free throw and going like night night are we sure about this you're down seven two man what are you what are you doing hey man that last point was actually game yeah but i made that just shooting free throws after the game by yourself oh man uh but yeah uh jason uh it's good to have you here we're gonna talk a little bit about the season um before we also get into our 90s discussion you picked some great people to talk about i'm excited to discuss some of those players um jabari really started this off our producer jabari with a very interesting question are the celtics being overlooked or preemptively cast aside immediately after winning a ring um and we were like are they being cast is it just that they're so good

that it's boring to talk about them and so we're just like yeah and the Celtics are probably going to win but like it's kind of the same team they didn't do anything that interesting in the offseason other than Jason Tatum getting like mad that he wasn't getting more playing time

but yeah do we think anything is going to carry over from the olympics like the are is lebron going to continue to look good will tatum will it be in tatum's head that he didn't get any playing time do we get like like olympics rui too like do we get all of the all of those all of those things i i in my in my laker heart i'm a laker fan heart i hope so but i don't know i mean i i feel like it's just you kind of tap into something different for the olympics uh and i think that's where that came from but i i would love to see a lot of these people take that into it and also to see jason tatum continue to be humbled as he said it was really humbling ad in particular has a reputation

for taking a few months off every summer and coming into the season rusty and out of shape. And so I think he's the main guy who will benefit from it. I think LeBron too. I don't know about you guys, but I thought LeBron, Steph, and KD, all three of those guys have been getting a lot of what I think is unfair analysis over the last year or two based on them being on pretty flawed rosters. And people going like, oh,

these guys just don't have it anymore. When really, it's like if you've got three or four really high-level two-way role players, it just makes life easier for superstars. And all three of those guys just don't have that. And so in a weird way, I actually think all three of them embraced this summer as a chance to play real basketball in high-stakes that. And so in a weird way, I actually think like all three of them embraced this summer as like a chance to play real basketball in like high stakes environments. And so I think all three of them probably feel competitively reinvigorated and like Steph, for instance, Steph had a really bad end to last season. I think he's going to have a little bit of a bounce back type of season. Uh, I still think LeBron is is playing firmly at a top six or seven level when he's healthy.

Kevin Durant was great in the playoffs and then great with Team USA. I think all three of those guys are really good. It's just, unfortunately, they're going back to their iffy situations and the Western Conference is such a bloodbath it may not even matter. KD was so good

in that situation he's just like the ultimate person like whatever happens with the suns like if he can just like be a weapon on a really good team again at the end of his career like that was fun to just like see somebody be able to bring kd in and just be lights out for five ten minutes you know i just want to see all of them play on like really great teams again and and it just it is what it is all three of it's so funny because all three of them are in situations that should have been avoidable like the warriors should have traded the kids two years ago and if they did they'd be in a much better position because now the kids aren't that good right so they're like stuck in this in-between zone and it's like for

lebron it was the the Russell Westbrook trade for KD. It was leaving Golden State to begin with and his obsession with finding other pull-up shooters to play with for whatever reason.

But like all three of those guys, they just, they're just in these unfortunate situations and it's a huge bummer. I don't know about you guys. I'm sure you guys hit really good numbers

for your show with the Team USA stuff. The Team USA stuff has been crushing all over the place. Absolutely crushing. I think a big part of that is all of us basketball fans, we just miss watching those guys

playing big games. And we've been craving it. When it was happening, I was texting Jack and Jabari just about how it was sort of... I think most people saw that it's like, in this team, all of these players are showing up with their exact specialized skill set and cranking it up to 10 in the best way where you're like it felt like

playing a video game where it's like you can't put all of them on the same team like you're just gonna do what they did and that was so exciting to watch but yeah i uh i'm i i am worried about the iffy situation that the lakers are definitely in for sure. At MGM, they are currently 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. They are the 9th favorite team to win the championship.

Okay. Let me ask you this, Myles. Who is the best two-way player on the Lakers other than LeBron and AD? Oh, man. I think the answer is obvious, and it's not a great answer. Who are you going to say?

Is it Rui? I was going to say Austin Reeves. Austin's become a decent point of attack defender, and I think he's a very good offensive player, but that's the main issue is like, you go around, like go to Boston and it's like, okay,

you got Tatum and Brown who, how many like really good two way players they have. Like Derek White, really good two way player, Drew Holiday, really good two way player, Al Horford, really good two way player.

Like at the end of the day, that's really what it is. They're cheating. They just like build a team of all the best two-way players. You can't just do that, Jason. You can't just do that. That's not fair. And that is also what I said when they built that team.

I said, that's not fair. To the original question that you've pitched, I don't think anybody who covers the league doesn't have Boston as the championship favorite next year. I think everyone respects them. I think you're also right that there's a certain amount of a boring element to the discussing them, even within the 82. It's like, okay, Boston beat Atlanta again. Like you guys want to break it down? You know, it's just hard to get into, get into all those kinds of things. I think a big part of it too. And I think this is part of like the, uh, kind of like the,

the fan insecurity element that you're seeing a ton of coming out of Boston. Like, I'm sure you've seen some of the stuff with like Boston fans, like straight up being pissed about Tatum, not playing, even though they won the gold, which is completely absurd.

It was a conspiracy. Wait, let's just call it what it was, Jason. It was a conspiracy to get in the head of the Boston Celtics and their players. It's so funny to me though. Cause it's like, okay. So Steve Kerr is jealous of the Celtics and their players. It's so funny to me though because it's like, okay, so Steve

Kerr is jealous of the Celtics even though he just beat them in June two years ago. It doesn't make it so asinine, but the main thing that I think is driving it is I think fans want to see the struggle and they want to see overcoming

adversity. It's like the gold medal that Dudu won the 400 meter just straight up doing the triple jump across the finish line. Like you want to see that struggle. And Boston just, it looked easy. It looked easy. Their stars weren't taxed. Like how often can you see a team's best player

legitimately have the worst playoff run of his career and it not matter? It just literally not matter. And that's the thing is it just boston there's no real like appeal to the casual fan so no one cares about that title outside of the boston fan base and so as a result like there's that kind of like that classic like we're not getting discussed or we're not getting respected kind of insecurity coming out of there so from a team that's not being actually disrespected other than like in their fans heads because they want to like create a narrative where nobody believed

in us and it's like no everyone believed in you so much that they're bored by talking about i was dreading it the whole year that's how much i believed in it as a laker fan i was just gonna not bought except for everybody who's not jason uh they got lucky too by the way they didn't get they didn't face a single one of the top five records in the league in the playoffs like all the it's like out east it was like okay are they going to be able to get through the healthy knicks or that bucks team and it's like they just didn't have to play them it's like are they going to be able to beat denver or like a team like minnesota or a team like oklahoma city is that they just didn't have to play them like they they went i want to like, I can't remember off the top of my head.

I want to say they went three and five against the top four seeds in the Western conference and they just didn't have to play any of them. So like there's, so even though I think they were the best team and I think they deserve to be the favorite, they want credit for being the most dominant team in recent NBA history. And it's like, you're just not going to get that credit from the rest of the people. I don't think. No, you're not. Definitely not on this show. Be begrudgingly maybe yeah uh i they did all right i will say we gave

them that credit in the lead up in an attempt to reverse jinx them it didn't work uh unfortunately um all right so the the thing that i'm surprised by is people are hard on the Oklahoma City Thunder bandwagon. Yeah. Like gamblers are. Like they are the number two team like odds wise to win the title next year, which I don't know. Like I think, yeah, they definitely made some good adjustments kind of in the background but i don't i i don't see it as them being like hyper like they're two spots ahead of the nuggets the nuggets are ranked fourth uh on a bunch of uh

odds uh the mgm site so right um what what do you think i i like i see the case right adding caruso on heart yeah yeah no that's awesome like but it's also those aren't it's not like they added a like number two or three person they added like really good really solid four or five people which i'm excited about like i probably would put them near the top of my list but i'm a little surprised they're ahead of the nuggets yeah so i still have denver as the top team in the west i think people are writing them off way too fast i thought they were clearly just out of gas when they got to the postseason last year just from a a tough couple of years and couple like both kcp and jamal murray were banged up going into the playoffs which was something

that continued to kind of plague them a little bit. Even without KCP, that obviously is a downgrade going to Christian Brown in the starting lineup. But it's just, to me, really simple. It's like you've got a couple of really good two-way players and Nikola Jokic and a shot maker that can play with him. I think it's silly to write them off. The reason why I think people are really high on the Thunder, and I do have them as a top-tier contender now. Last year, to me, it was just Boston and Denver. To me, Oklahoma City has entered into that group. And I think there are a couple other teams that you could consider there. But the thing with Oklahoma City is they were already really good. Look at last year. They were a foul on a three-point shooter in the corner away from forcing a game. It would have been a game seven back in Oklahoma City.

So they were this close to the conference finals, and they had two gigantic weaknesses. They were a terrible defensive rebounding team, and you could really go through their front line. And so Isaiah Hartenstein addresses both of those. And then there was one other issue, which is they kind of always seem to have a question mark around that fifth guy in any lineup. And now Isaiah Hartenstein and Alex Caruso give you two definitive looks, a small ball look where Caruso is the fifth guy and you're going with J-Dub and Shea and Dort

alongside Caruso and Chet. And then they have a big look where you pull Caruso off, or maybe you pull Dort off and you put Hartenstein next to Chet. And so they have clearer fives with a little bit more versatility, and they address their two gigantic weaknesses in terms of their front court strength and their ability to rebound, and they're more experienced. I don't know.

The end of the series against Dallas, I thought Shea was kind of going blow for blow with Luka, if not even, like, there were games where he was playing better than him, too. So, like, I'm a believer in OKC. I just can't put him over that Denver team yet. I still think they're just a little bit of a safer bet god yeah you just brought back how close we were i bet okc in the off season for at uh like some crazy number i would have made eleven thousand dollars on a one hundred100 bet if they had won the title.

So I was living and dying with every single one of those things you just mentioned last season. That was painful. Thanks for bringing it up again, man. Hey, can I transfer this ticket for this season? Is that a way to do that? No, sir. Oh, you thought it was for this? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, dude.

No, bro. Oh, come on. Whoa. Why would I do that? Where's OKC in the odds right now? Are they second behind Boston? Yeah, they're plus 750 at MGM. That's crazy. Which is wild.

They opened it plus 1,000. That's crazy. It's just a lot of, it seems like a lot of public money. A lot of people have read two articles in the offseason. Right. I think I have. Because, yeah, they started out below Denver and since then have kind of shot up. And then Denver and Philly seem to be around the same.

And the Knicks. The scary thing is, what is J-Dub going to be? Because he had a somewhat rough playoff run, which is for a first for a first time in that kind of situation but like he's one of those guys that i think i think he's his upside is like jimmy butler with a reliable jump shot like i think that's his upside wow so like the question of how soon he gets to that near-ish that level is such a huge question mark surrounding not just the thunder for this season but in the future too because like all the intel behind the scenes is that shea is the kind of guy that kind of likes you know he's big into fashion he likes he's got a big personality he's kind of a big city

type and so there is kind of a more brief urgent window for oklahoma city than you would think and a lot of that comes down to j-dub and just how quickly he becomes awesome yeah he might be moving to like dallas or you know one of those big cities we don't know um yeah what all right you sound like somebody who knows stuff about uh basketball how do you feel about my philadelphia 76ers they're going to be a really interesting team to see uh just the way they come together in terms of like their their chemistry in the early part of the season just because it kind of reminds me of a lot of the other kind of super team builds where it's like, it's just a bunch of guys that got thrown together.

Yeah. That said, I'm as big a Tyrese Maxey fan as you'll find. I think he's awesome. And one of the big things with Tyrese Maxey was like last year, he just shot the laces off the basketball and catch and shoot situations, but he struggled off the dribble for whatever reason. And then that kind of came through for him in the playoffs.

I mean, you guys saw him hit that big shot that tied the game. And what was it? Game five or game? I think it was game five against the next. Yeah. I think he, what do you have?

40 something in that game. It was insane. He had 50. And then like Paul George, he's in like the perfect role on this team. Cause he's basically a tertiary shot creator. He's basically like a juiced up superstar version of Michael Porter Jr. in this matchup where it's like Tyrese Maxey and Embiid are still going to be running the primary action the majority of the time down the floor,

I would think. And then he's just going to be kind of working off of that. That'll allow him to devote more of his energy to the defensive end. I think really it just comes down to like how many of those kind of role players that you threw together are you going to be able to turn into useful rotation pieces. And that's just going to be

something we got to figure out. I thought the Yabusele signing was interesting because he kind of fits the build of like a that modern. His archetype has become sneakily like one of the most

valuable archetypes in the league which is like the big strong four that can be useful offensively but that can like guard the other teams big right so that you can use your center as a roamer this was the big thing that boston did if you guys remember by putting they just put their they put tatum on the center every single time right because tatum could box out centers and he couldn't be bullied on the block. That allowed them to just use Christophs Porzingis or Al Horford to always guard the weakest above-the-break shooter

on the other team. And then they could try to funnel things towards, you know, that's how they beat Dallas, right? And so that's the thing is like, I don't think Kelly Oubre is big and strong enough to guard centers. But I think Guershon is. And so that's kind of an interesting kind of look where you don't have to, you don't need him

to be super vertically athletic. You just need him to box out centers and not get bullied on the block. And now you can use them beat as more of a Romer. And I think that could be a really useful look for them defensively for listeners who don't know. Yabu Sally is the guy you Googled in the middle of the USA, France game, who was like just yoking on people and having an incredible game. So when you Googled him, you found out that he was the number 16 pick with the Celtics a number of years ago and just kind of sat bench for them. But yeah, I mean, the reason we were all Googling him was because he looks like he can do it. At least play some big minutes.

That's exciting. That's the thing that's getting me not crazily. I'm always pleasantly surprised. I'm always pleasantly surprised by when he does good stuff because I just don't believe in him. He did

play some good minutes last year. I just, I, but I really like the Yabu Sally signing. Like I like the guy they got from the heat. I, you know, like I just,

yeah, Caleb Martin. Like I, I like those guys. And then obviously the Paul George thing is exciting. If he can stay healthy. It's an interesting look. Yeah.

The Maxie Martin, because Martin then becomes your athlete guard that guards the other team's best guard. That Maxie Martin Paul George Oubre Embiid is really fast, believe it or not, which I think is important because Embiid is slow and he struggles in transition and up and down

games. Surrounding him with a lot of speed and athleticism, I think, is really smart. Yeah, that'll be interesting. I was, yeah, as I was talking about in the Olympics, just watching him be slow to the ball, slow to defensive rebounds. I was having flashbacks and

I don't think he's in shape right now. Yeah, you know what, Jason? That's the thing that you could have said 70% of, uh, his career, unfortunately.

So, um, I'm hoping, I'm hoping this is the year, you know, that we like managed to, you know, he's,

he's in shape when he needs to be, he's healthy when he needs to be. Um, and yeah. And then we're in business. We are our number three on MGM's list of title contenders. Pass the second round, baby. That's all I want.

Just get me out of the second round. Just get me out of the second round. The Drummond pickup was huge, too, because you know Maury's going to basically tell Nick Nurse Embiid's capped at 50 games or something like that. And they're going to be like, no back-to-backs, no more than three games in a week. You know they're going to be holding him down. And so Andre Drummond

was like sneaky and awesome pickup because he's a guy who can play a stud. Oh yeah, because that's right. He was there a couple years ago. Yeah, he was. Alright, we should take a break. This went long and we do have some 90s players to talk about. So

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radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back we are back we're back and we are back the 1990s what are the 90s what a time to be alive we the democratic national convention last night we got to got a reminder when they played the bulls intro music i'm surprised the lasers didn't come out too i know um but yeah we've been talking about our favorite 90s players with our guests uh we've had a list that we show everybody everybody picks a couple names they want to talk about j Jason, you picked Allen Iverson, The Dream, and The Worm. And these are...

I'm very excited to talk about these three players. And I don't know, who do we want to start with? I mean, we were just talking about the Sixers, so maybe we just continue that by talking about Allen Iverson. Yeah, I mean,. Um, I, yeah,

I mean, I guess Jason set us up here. Tell us why when you say I want to, if we're going to talk about nineties players, these are the three people I picked. Why do you want to talk about Allen Iverson? Well, I think Allen Iverson falls into this group kind of with Kobe to Tracy

McGrady a little bit as well. We're like the new generation of basketball fans vastly underrates because of some statistical anomalies compared to some of the skill guards you see today right and i think that it's a a gross uh misunderstanding of just how different the game was back then i mean like to put it simply every team was basically running two big lineups all the time. The power forward was basically just a 6'9", 260-pound gigantic human being who functioned like a big. There was just very little space to get all the way to the basket. And so you actually needed guys. Just a league of Udonis Haslams.

Udonis Hasla. Yeah, exactly. It was like, okay, you're playing the Lakers. It's like you're playing two bigs tonight. You know what I mean? You're playing the Cavs. Here comes Drew Gooden and Zydrunas Algowskis. It's just always like a two big type of look. And so you actually needed guards to eat up usage and to take a lot of really tough shots. And so I'm of the opinion that a guy like Allen Iverson in particular, especially with the way that those Sixers teams were constructed,

basically around defensive personnel. If you took Allen Iverson circa 2002, especially with the way that those Sixers teams were constructed, basically around defensive personnel. Like if you took Allen Iverson circa 2002, 2001, and you have dropped him in the Dallas Mavericks system in the Kyrie Irving role, or in the Luka Doncic role, like I think he would have been a 60% true shooting type of guy. And it's just, it's just the reality of the way the game is. And so I think like a lot of times, like he gets kind of miscast now is like this bad, you know, bad teammate, uh, uh, a guy who was inefficient and just a shot chucker. And it's just really unfortunate. And like, to me, like I I'm, I'm only 33. So like, even as we get into some of these guys from the nineties, I don't have as much like live experience watching them from when I was a kid. But like for my generation

of hoopers, Allen Iverson was one of the most influential guys. And so many of the guards that I play with picked parts of his game and tried to replicate it. And I just, I wish he was remembered more fondly. Let's just put it that way. Yeah. I mean, I think for people that remember, he's remembered fondly. And I think if you're kind of piecing together what like a memory of Allen Iverson based on like clips you're seeing or articles you're reading, like after the fact, then I can see how some people are like,

well, this guy seemed like kind of a bit of a, like that selfish guy. But I, but I just remember someone who was so aggressive and just, or you couldn't believe it for like his height. You're like, there's no,

this dude's like six feet and he, he is not afraid of anything. And I thought that, that was captivating for me as a kid because i remember seeing him at georgetown and those oh man those uniforms i still think about those great uniforms that i haven't had that i ever why i went to georgetown largely i was gonna ask you i was like did you go to those shorts were dope they were so dope yeah it was just like a cool school because of those John Thompson teams. Yeah, but I mean, I just remember even in the 2001 finals too, just

watching him and being like, it was like one of those moments where it was easy for me to be dismissive of the opposing team because I was such a Laker fan, but part of me was also like, man, I love Allen Iverson, even though he's prevented us from going fully 16-0. I just watched him, I love Allen Iverson, even though he's prevented us from going fully 16-0. I just watched him, I just watched some highlights of him, and it

reminds me of, it's like Ja when he's got someone on skates or when he's just at his most unstoppable, but with a great mid-range game before mid-range jumpers were outlawed by basketball analytics um and but just the most

dramatic crossovers and just like he would do things to defenders where you'd like see their body just like give up on the court just with the crossovers like talking about Antonio Daniels? Was that on the Lakers? No, no, no. He did something to a Lakers garden. That was the Ty Lue. He stepped over and he stepped over. It wasn't the Ty Lue one. This one was he crossed

somebody up and their body just kept going like four steps backwards and then they just fell over. It's in the middle. It's like it's in the middle it's like five minutes in this highlight uh reel that we'll link off to in the show notes but it's uh yeah he was just like even what he did to jordan as a rookie like where jordan's like moving his body back and forth and he just looks like me out there like jordan just looks three steps too slow i like how like after though when he like people ask michael jordan about that when he's still playing he's

like yeah man he's like i'm not gonna you know be out here and say this guy doesn't have it he's like because i'm i'm more trying to deny those opportunities for someone to do that he's like well you know he'll learn how to play basketball like he'd he had to sun him in the same you know he will learn how to play basketball you're's like, okay, I'm changing. The kid's got a lot of potential. When he learns how to play the game at a higher level, he's really relying on physical ability at the moment. And you're like, that is true. But also, I get it, Michael.

Well, his big sweeping crossover, that was just whatever every kid did when they were... I mean, heck, it influenced players too. I mean, Kobe's crossover when he was young looked just like ai it's like big sweeping out to the side yeah yeah crazy length yeah broke my game but it was worth it because yeah the amount of times they called me for a carryover they're like yeah i'm sorry kid what are you doing i'm like you're you're holding the ball up like this i'm like my hands aren't big enough sorry um. All right, let's talk. The dream really, I don't know, 30 years after his prime, even with all the advancements and overall, you know,

the progressive nature of the game, there aren't that many big men as fluid as he was out there. I feel like you could put him at any point in time and he would be dominant right like he is there anyone whose game is like more of a just like surefire put him in and he's a top five player right now I feel like he he's right there right yeah for sure well absolutely because he was because he was so good defensively too. Yeah, exactly. Which I think people forget. But like, it's so funny when people compare Embiid to him because I do see some of it

in the sense where it's just this massive human that's doing some guard stuff. But the main difference is like, Hakim was in really good shape. So like, he had this like really quick feet. It's so funny because people think of him as this high level post player,

which he obviously was. But he also was like, just a really good mid-range pull-up jump shooter. He would face up and do a jab step and hard move to the left and shoot. He would rip through to the right and do a one-dribble pull-up like he was a two-guard. He had the right shoulder fade. He mainly would hook over his left shoulder, but he had all these mid-range jump shots

that looked a lot like the two guards of the time and so he was he was this like anthony davis level mobile super length defender who was blocking a ton of shots mixed with like the one of the best face-up games in the league at the time watching him i don't think people i think i think the the joel and b comparisons are borderline offensive when you compare the difference in just his mentality and how seriously he took his body and his health. He's just at another level, in my opinion. Yeah. Two times deep boy, two times finals MVP, which I don't think Embiid has won either

of those. I don't think we have a finals MVP. Three times block champ. those i don't i don't think we have a finals mvp um three times block champ uh just but like again just a beautiful person to watch play basketball just yeah yeah and i get those like the yokich comparisons to like to a certain extent and i think there's also the interesting part with like akim too is just he also has like a soccer background too he's like one of those like bigs who has the soccer background who's just just because of that is looking at ball distribution a little bit differently like how or like a lot of the guys who are coming from europe and stuff like that

but the other part that i think i remember as a kid always thinking he was boring to watch because it wasn't like as flashy and then as i got older and was like yeah the foot like and you actually begin to understand footwork and appreciate that and you're like yeah that's that that that should be impossible like your knees should be done if you're that big moving like this is not normal no not at all and then once he's like then i started like hearing more stories about just how like aggressive he really was like how like he would just duff people out like on the court in an era when like the fine was like 30 bucks for hitting a guy. And he's like, yeah, yeah, okay, I'll do that.

Watch this. Full on. You can't have your locker room six-pack, buddy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, well, you have to get through me. Nastiness is such an underrated basketball trait when we're looking at players. And it's so funny how when we look at the guys that disappoint us,'s almost always they don't have that nastiness yeah right it's like that the like desire to just not just win but to embarrass you in the process like that it's almost like a mean

streak yeah it's a personality defect that works perfectly for competitive sports yeah it's so funny to hear people be like oh my god you guys wimpy's a jerk yes yes he's he's mean what are you sure oh my god that's great dude yeah he took a little baby's lollipop no yes okay um his shoulders are getting his autograph and he told him to screw off yeah he said i'm not victor wow wow wow who else could it be uh but yeah i again i think but one of those people too i think for a lot of younger fans just do not really talk about much i think like a lot of older heads obviously do and though they hear it because a lot of the older players are still always like people need to remember how good akim Olajuwon was, but yeah, for the, yeah, just,

uh, I, I think the one place then be comparison makes sense to me is just that we got to see their games like develop into people with like beautiful touch and footwork, like from when they first got to college, they were so raw and like just completely different players. And then, uh, yeah. So like, that's, that's the one place where it makes sense but in terms of like

the game that like the scope and greatness of the game i think you're right it's i think it's realistic i think you're right i think i think if you had to compare him be to one single center in nba history it makes sense that it would be Hakeem. You can't say he's like him. He just has some similarities. It's like, well, that rectangle looks like a square, technically. They are parallelograms.

So we will take that. In fairness, a lot of those Hakeem comparisons were thrown out early on when he was in better shape and he was more healthy. I shouldn't say more healthy because he was injured right away but when we were not we were it looked like do you remember that first year the first year and a half when he started playing where it was like holy 20 games or so yeah yeah and like there was definitely that phase there where it was like maybe this is what he could be you know but it just pretty quickly

turned into something else yeah um and then sure. Um, and then Rodman, this was my favorite part of the last dance, which was one of my favorite basketball experiences of, uh, the past 10 years was when we got to, we needed something. The last dance came through and watching Rodman, like getting to see his process,

how much he studied, uh, like just, I didn't studied a thing that i didn't really know you could study but like where you know knew where everybody was gonna miss too was there before the ball got there um great when he's talking about he's like it'll go ping and then go that way or this one goes and then it'll be this one i'm like oh i don't what is what kind of omitree do you call yeah he's just like watching a different game than like right when he's watching a game he like gets excited about the misses because he's like yo yeah yeah that that clip got some real meme mileage around the time i remember i mind you it was covet so the bar was a little lower yeah yeah we were just like anything fine fine come let's give judd bushler his own podcast based on this moment

um uh but yeah robman what great pick uh i don't like there's not really a comparison like there's been people who are like kind of close to the rebounding totals but well yeah we'll just talk about why why'd you pick robman well he's kind of the opposite of Hakeem in the sense that like, I don't think he has the same level of like translatability from era to era in some ways. Although it's, it's always hard to tell because you wonder about a guy like Rodman, if he was raised in this era,

if his skill development would have looked different and he would have been a better, I always got to be careful with that. It's like, I always hate when younger people say like, oh, MJ couldn't shoot threes. And it's like, I have a feeling if he came up now, he would have been a very good three-point shooter. Like he just wouldn't allow that to not be the case, you know? But like, I think it's, you know,

we talked about the too big kind of look that most teams had, you know, it was just something you could get away with back then having a player with some more offensive limitations. But, you know, I think anybody who's ever played basketball at any level knows that the, when it comes down to winning in real high stakes environments, there's just, it mostly comes down to dirty work and you got to have people who are willing to do that sort of thing. And, and, you know, he's just been a part of a lot of winning teams within that context. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, like the thing that's also, I remember one of my first book reports or like middle school book reports, I did bad, as bad as I want to be.

His like biography that came out in the 90s. They're like, what? And I'm like, yeah, I want to write about this. This is the one I'm talking about. This was for comparative literature in college, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. what i'm talking about um this was for like comparative literature in college right yeah the reason he wore the wedding dress was to actually symbolize the malleability of our idea of what masculinity is or is not um but like with rodman like the thing that was so unbelievable is like you'd hear it's like he'd play a game and then like lift weights for like

two hours after the game and then stay up till five in the morning, partying, and then, you know, show up on game day and then give you 20 rebounds and like rinse and repeat. And I think that's like a really wild part about is like, you realize just how much of a physical specimen you have to be to have that kind of schedule and take that just, I, I, part of me is like, God, imagine if you went to bed at night or whatever, but then part of me is like, I don't know if he ever needed to bed. Yeah.

This is easy. If he slept. Yeah. But even then without it, like all, like so many players stories about him were just like, I can't believe how this guy was living. And then the performances he put in,

or like, I think, uh, who was it? Dirk was talking about when he played on the mavericks he was like dude this guy didn't even know anything like any of the schemes we were running at all like he would take a shower like right before like apparently did this before every game 45 minutes before the game cold shower miss all the meetings and then just get out there and be like all right i'm just gonna do my thing um and still like perform at that level

and like how how yeah there are a few times in nba history where the numbers just don't make sense like you you look back at like wilt when he was like in the early uh early phase of the nba scoring numbers and the rebound numbers he put up and there have been just a handful of other examples of that and like rodman's rebounding numbers in the 90s are like that you look at him and you're like what like how yeah like how in the 90s are like that. You look at him and you're like, what? Like how? Like how in the world did he do this?

It wasn't just leading the league seven years in a row. He was hitting just preposterous numbers. And then I think we're actually going to see this with Wemby now with the blocks and steals.

Like this is just going to perennially be at like five or six stocks per game. And I think we're going to look back at it and be history and be like, remember Wemby

in the mid 2020s? Like that, like I think, i think that was what rodman was in the 90s where just as a complete like outlier in terms of statistical performance 18 18 17 17 15 16 15 that those were his average rebounds from 91 through his third championship season 14.9 yeah like what that's like oh you had a down year but just under 15 a game he's like i wasn't going to the casino enough that year that was the problem and then i got it together and then we won another two championships the stories of iverson and robman like just rolling in from being out the night before like right before the game and uh and just putting you know giving the other team 50s yeah i feel like have either of you guys ever played 18 holes and then gone to play pickup no no no dude

so i did that for the first time uh it would have been it was about a month and a half ago now important context it was in arizona in july so it was a little i was trying to die but i went to play and i was like oh my god i'm dying out here and all i could think is think is like how was it that jordan was playing 36 holes right and then going and then going to play that night because like golf is like it it actually does take it out of you more than you'd think, you know? Sure. Well,

you're just like walking around shots and around. Yeah. Um, and then there's also that famous story about him going out and like, you know, having a bunch of beers on the golf course and then going out and putting up 40. Yeah.

Right. I have had a beer and then like tried to run, like go for a run. And I was like, Oh, why am i running through concrete like my sides are ripping yeah and these dudes just built different yeah all right should we take a break and come back and do rapid fire we'll be right back all right here we go. It's Cam Jordan from New Orleans Saints here to tell you it's going down on season two of my podcast, Off the Edge with me, Cam Jordan.

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we're gonna ask a question you just answer it quick don't think too hard just give us the instant reaction and if you take too long and threaten our title as fastest question and answer segment in podcasting history we will be very rude yeah just don't make me look like a fool in front of the nba jason we promised them we said the show is going to be mediocre but the fastest say the rapid fire segment is going to be so fast you've ever seen no i trust me we will be able to dunk on everybody we have on the show just so you know and your threat it's a big you're you're making us from a lot of different angles yeah yeah we don't like it we don't like it but get the confidence back here we go jason

are you ready yes let's do it all right back here we go jason are you ready yes sir let's do it all right then here we go brian start the clock you all right yeah yeah i'm just nervous man i was just i was just re-watching the video on jason's twitter profile i was like dude he caught that highlight reel real clean we'll off to the highlight reel and the footnotes. Wow, wow, wow. Here we go. Should we do one? Should we do one? I mean, sorry, I'm nervous.

Again, I was looking at another replay of him. Why don't we kick it off here? You want to go? Yeah, I'll go. Okay. This is the fastest question and answer segment, just so you know, Jason. This isn't us being rusty. This is a little little bit of this is how we fake them out you know what i mean a little bit of yeah it's called a hezy is this like when you're on the polygraph where they ask you all the boring questions first exactly it's your relax right and just like a polygraph this is also

pseudo-scientific here's the first question jason this is from our Discord Is there a current comp For pre-injury Grant Hill? Um I don't think so That like super springy two guard pull up shooter It hadn't really been, I mean Ant is the closest Thing we've had to but most of the two guards we've had are like The Booker and Harden types which are A little bit less athletic, a little more skill based

Okay That's correct Dang he got that one I know you said no way he gets this one a little bit less athletic, a little more skill-based. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay. That's correct. That is correct. Dang, he got that one. I know you said no way he gets this one. Yeah, he got it. He nailed it. I'm nervous now. It is currently NBA Dunk Week, so what's your all-time favorite

in-game dunk and your four dunkers in your all-time fantasy dunk contests? Dunk. I'm going to say dunk again. There you go. And, and admittedly biased, but, uh, the LeBron dunk over use of Nurkic.

Every time I see the highlight, I still don't know how he did it. His body was moving kind of like away from the rim and he took off from like the third hash outside the block and was like this and just, that was absurd. Um, Vince Carter is always number one for me all time. Uh,

that's true. Miles Swift video. Every single time it comes around, I just have to watch it. That's like one of my rules. um vince carter is always number one for me all time uh that stromyle swift video every single time it comes around i just have to watch it that's like one of my rules i have a handful of rules as a human you always watch the stromyle swift video when it comes around i'll go with let's see so carter lebron stromyle i'll if i have to give you a fourth i'll go with uh i'll go with t-mac yeah yeah tAC's a good answer. You got to. Now, I guess this is something since we've been talking about

in the 90s and how younger fans kind of put, or just people who maybe were not engaged with basketball back then, have some misconceptions about the game. What is one of the biggest misconceptions that people have about the way the game was played in the 80s

or 90s and the impact that it's had today? I think that the idea that defenses are getting worse is a major misconception. I think people forget that the offense is always improving as we get better at schemes and understanding how to generate better shots for people, but also just the skill level of players is increasing. But at the same time, it's not like the league isn't also trying to solve that on the defensive end. It's like we're seeing it now with teams trying to take away the three in the rim and different pick and roll coverages that are designed to get the ball out of the primary ball handler's hands.

Defense is actually better than it's ever been. It's just the offense is growing at a faster rate. And I think that a lot of times there's just a misconception about defense was better in the 90s. It wasn't. It was really good still. It's just as a league, the offense is outpacing it right now. And they were allowed to beat you up

a little bit. Yeah, that was the right answer, Jason, but it took way too long for you to say that, so I don't know if we can count that one, just so you know, but that was the right answer. That was the right answer. Give us a dark horse team for this next year and also a dark horse player who you want to see on the 2028 olympic team a dark horse team i think a lot of people forget how good memphis was i think they're going to be top four seed like right away uh i think they they've kind of found a couple forwards in their system uh between like guys

like vince williams Jackson and John Morant. I threw out this stat the other day. He just immediately came in and was awesome and helped them win a lot of games before he got hurt. What was the second part of the question? All right, give me a dark horse player that you want to see on the 2028 Olympic team. On the 2028 Olympic team?

I'll go with... How about Kevin Durant? LeBron's a given. Ah, I'll go with... How about Kevin Durant? Whoa. LeBron's a given. Let's get Kevin Durant back out there. No, but if there was an old guy who would come back, it'd be him, right? Because he's such a hoop head, right?

Yeah, yeah. What if 40-year-old KD just taking spot-up jump shots? Yeah. He's just stuck there in the corner, man. Just find him. He's going to throw it up. Love to hoop. All right.

And I got to say, we have seen your mixtape on the Twitter bio, but what is your personal highlight for you as a basketball player? What's the nastiest in-game moment for you that you still think about when you put yourself to bed at night? That's a good question. I would say, if I had to off the top of my head i would say when i was at um when i was in juco i had a tip dunk once that i surprised myself with where i was coming down the lane and uh i i was actually just going to grab the offensive rebound and when i went up and got

it i remember vividly in my head like looking over and seeing the rim, like right here. And I was just like, Oh, yeah. Um, but yeah, I mean, we've had that happen to us too. Jack and I a lot, like all the rings right there.

Yeah. Too often. It happens too often where I'm not prepared for how high I jumped. And I'm like, Oh, I wish I could get it through my thick head. You have incredible springs down there buddy you got bunnies what are we saying i think i think that's probably it like i i just like everybody

else there's uh there's it's basketball for me and i'm sure it is for you guys too like it's it's a thing that's lasted for decades for me so i just have you know a lot of memory like you know what i've had a lot of fun with is just like as an old guy playing in like money tournaments where there's cash on the line. Like I just had, I just had one a few weeks ago where I put in 300 bucks as an entry fee, me and a buddy of mine split the entry fee and we brought a team in and like, it was double elimination and we lost in the first championship game. We had to like come back and win two in a row. And like the AC was broken in the gym. It was like 85 degrees. And like those moments when you like win the cash in like a moment and you're with a bunch of dudes who used to play in college.

Like I've actually had a lot of enjoyment in the game post-college, which is something that I didn't expect. But a big part of that is I'm just a lot better now than I used to be when I was in college. Well, this, this is true. Some white men can jump.

Yeah. It turns out. And I find it troubling. Personally. All right. Every time you get up there, huh, Jack? You're like, why am I going so high? I'm too high.

This is scary. My ankles can't handle the landing. Yeah. Yeah, well, Jason, Tim, thank you so much for joining us on Miles and Jack Got Mad Boosties. Where do the people find you, follow you, hear you, support you, read you, all that good stuff? This was a lot of fun. I really appreciate you guys having me on. Hoops Tonight YouTube channel, Hoops, read you, all that good stuff. This was a lot of fun. I really appreciate you guys having me on. The Hoops Tonight YouTube channel, Hoops Tonight podcast

feed, and then on Twitter at underscore JasonLT is where I'm most active. I'm trying to get better at using Instagram, but Twitter's just where my biggest following is right now. So that's where I tweet out show announcements and links and stuff like that. Okay, cool. Well, you can follow the hashtag MadBoosties, B-double-O-S-T-I-E-S

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