The Daily Zeitgeist - MJGMB #171: Finals, Trade Talk and Finales with Harrison Faigen

Episode Date: June 25, 2025

Miles and Jack were honored to be joined by SBNation's Harrison Faigen for the final episode of Miles and Jack Got Mad Boosties. The trio discussed what wound up being an epic (injury disappointment aside) Finals series to wrap up the 2024-25 NBA season. They also discussed all of the recent trade news and offered predictions for what is sure to be a wild trade and free agency period this summer. We appreciate each of you for listening and supporting the show!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Did you see you know that rest in peace bozo the James Worthy meme? Yeah. Yeah. Did you know what that clip is from? Isn't it from they beat the Celtics and he lit up a cigar? The common misconception. That's what Javari said. How sad this one is? It's from February 4th, 2018, where 21 and 31 Lakers beat the Oklahoma city thunder 108, 104.

Yeah, that's right. Yep. So yeah, we're smoking on that loud pack because, Oh man, I really thought that there was, when you said it was sadder, I thought it was going to be like, Oh, Red Hourback died and he was doing like a tribute to him on air and Crip walk. And people are like, oh, like, yeah, let's put rest in peace. Bose, though, under that, you know, that is probably the energy James

would bring to that tribute. But, you know, but it's even funnier because they're like, you're saying rest and peace because we beat the 30 and 24 thunder. Oh, they were only 30 and 24. Yeah. What a time. What a time. You guys want me to record locally, right?

Yes, please. Okay. Should I just start that now or okay. If you want, I think, I think we can prolong the show if we don't turn this show in. We don't know. It's. We just. Don't wait on that last. Sets. So. It's like, it's like, yeah.

Guys, we're still recording. It is. Problem as we go. Don't even. Try it. We're trying to get it done, Steve. I know you're going to have to run me my. Yeah.

Yeah. One more time guys. Yeah. We still, we got edits and stuff on this one. Is that really good one? Bill of busting. You're like, yeah, it's our. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. All right. You're like, yeah, it's our. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. All right. Oh, shit. Alex Caruso, he was a minus three on the night. James, where is like the guys a bum?

Guys, a bum recipes, bozo. I'm out of here. Rest in peace, bozo. Tucker better tucking into some Tim Hortons. You think? That's been my time. That's been my time, Your Honor. This isn't a comedy club, sir. You're the defendant. Okay. Sorry. All right. That's been my time. Wee. All right. That's been my time, Your Honor. Tip your waiters on the way out.

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every Wednesday on the Black Effect Podcast Network, the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you go to find your podcast. Well, well, well, well, well, well, well, and the final. This is the end. Well, well, well. Episode 171 of My Sister Got Looses. I mean, a lot of people didn't think we'd make it to 171.

No. A lot of people didn't think we'd make it to 2. Do you know how old Elvis was when he died? Don't look it up. Don't look it up. Uh, 50? 55? That's what I was going to say, 55. He was 42.

He looked... He looked like us. And 42 is so young for him to look like that. But look at us. Look at us. Some of us are over that age, and yet we made it to 100 and 71 episodes. And look.

That's right. Nobody said we could do it. Nobody said so, but at the end of this season we do have a champion it's the Oklahoma City Thunder they took care of business in game 7 although it was a kind of a downer game seven I must say. It was a sad game seven. Normally I don't expect my game sevens to be sad. It was definitely I think overshadowed by the Halliburton injury, but also we've got KD Trade News if that interests you and maybe talking about the future of the Lakers. I don't know who knows where this is going because maybe this is the last episode of

I'm Miles Gray and I'm Jack O'Brien and this is Miles and Jack got mad boosties! The North Dix are NBA champions. Over the double team. Ohhhhhhhhhh! Night-night! Yanis with the 10-dollar look out. No show time. What you got Yanis? Wow, we got it. We got it. And you know who we got on the guest chair. The associate director of pro basketball

for SB Nation, Harrison Fakin. Finishing things off on boosties like Kobe dropping 60 in this one. Yeah. Taking another famous Achilles journey. Taking a ton of shots. Yeah, I've, a lot of shots. People have been calling me washed all year,

but I think I got one last good performance in me. You got it, yeah. We believe you. We didn't call you in for nothing, Harrison. I called you in to tell me that the Lakers will win next season. That's actually what I, right? Repeatedly calling Iso for himself. repeatedly calling the final word on the show.

Yeah. Just like, it'll be Lakers six years, right? In the finals next season. Yeah. That's what we said. I mean, so this is, this is why, so the people, a lot of people are asking, why is the show ending miles and I did make a promise to each other. Yep.

If by the third season of the show, it's not the Lakers and the 76ers in the finals, then we would end it and get married instead. And so things didn't happen, I don't think. But Harrison will be the efficient. So we do appreciate that. But I guess, yeah, the finals, just touching up on that. Game seven. Game seven, baby. But I guess yeah, the finals just touching up on that game seven Game seven, baby

Yeah, I mean at this point I'm sure no one's tuning into this Just the only way they found out about NBA basketball was listen to this there are some no legit There's probably one person at least. No, there are all- Like from other countries or something? Yeah. No, I mean, other listeners from other shows we do are like, yeah, I like the basketball one too. Like I get to learn stuff about it. Brian, the editor says, your editor perhaps?

Oh yeah, yeah, Brian didn't know the NBA was a thing. He was like, so this show's being, this show's ended because the NBA stopped having a league, right? And we're like, oh no, no, no, no, no, no. That's not how that works at all. My dear sweet child. Yeah, basketball shutting down.

That's it. Sorry everyone. We did it. It was a good one. Yeah. Yeah. I do like this clip, the super producer Jabari. And once again, we shouted him out last week,

but super producer Jabari, the man who makes the show. Yep. Run, man who makes it good. the man who makes the show run, the man who makes it good. The man who makes it coherent. Coherent. Yes. He found a great clip of Sam Presti

that I wanted to play real quick. Are we able to play it? Do we got this clip really quick? We got that clip. We got this clip. Let me get this clip up real quick. Here we go. Here is Samuel.

By the way, we were able to play NBA clips this whole time and we just didn quick. Here we go. Here is Samuel. We were able to like play NBA clips this whole time and we just like didn't. As I said, cause we couldn't shut ourselves up. So anyways. Well, you know, I remember when we were trying, we're like, oh, what a, oh. You're talking about dunks and stuff.

We're like, this is not helping. So sick. Oh, John, no. Yeah. No, aunt. that's kind of how the running commentary was. But here's Sam Presti in 2021, just given a long view into the future. As I said earlier, we can't be reactionary or emotional about it. We just have to keep chipping away every single day, knowing that over time, we'll achieve our goals. If we have the ploys, the patience and the

willingness to adjust to the setbacks that we will inevitably encounter. As they say, shortcuts cut long run short and we're going to do everything in our power not to allow that to happen. And when we do get back to the postseason, we want it to be an arrival and not an appearance and arrival, meaning that we can return, we can be there, we can take some, you know, some chance or bad fortune and not have it sink us completely. We've seen the benefit of that.

And you know, during our earlier years, we don't want to position where we get there, but we have no way to get back. And that's the focus and the precision with which we're working. We understand the ecosystem of the MBA, I think very, very well. We understand how that works. We understand what we have to work with. And I feel extremely confident and optimistic about the future that we have here. We just have to continue to stick with it. Okay. So that's him in twice. So that's by the way, the architect of the Oklahoma city Thunder, who just won the title, uh, speaking in, uh, at the end of the 2020, 2021 season, this is my

impression of me after he said that. Okay. Bozo, whatever. 22 and 51. Yeah. Okay. So a little context, they were 22 and 51. Yep. That's about a year that that was the year that she missed like the whole second half of the season or some big chunk of it. Right.

And the year that they, you know, sort of took in Al Horford and then shut him down because he was playing too well before flipping him to the Celtics. So, yeah, I found an article where they were summarizing that. That's like his final media appearance of the 2020-21 season. And there's like this article in USA Today where they're like, so he like doesn't want like, there's so many great players on the market and like, they're not even going to do anything. Quote, with Bradley Beal, Kemba Walker,

Christophs Porzingis, and even Damian Lillard floating in the rumor mill, Oklahoma City Thunder have started to pop up around social media and think pieces, but it's highly unlikely the Thunder trade for one of these players. And then summarizing like he's, you know, he spoke to the media and was like, we're, we're good over here. And, uh, he talks to the media for like, like three hours at the end of every season. He'll just take like every single possible question they have. Yeah. Well, I would have been, uh, I would have been one of the people being like, really?

Here's from later in that article, uh, about Beal. Beal has averaged more than 30 points per game for two seasons in a row. He did this while shooting 48.5% this season, despite defenders draped around him. Which was like the thing about Beal is like, you got to get Beal because his team is so bad and yet he's scoring all these points. That must mean that it was extra hard. But yeah, stuck to his vision, truly just, I don't know. And everybody in the organization was willing to have the patience. Like it's tough. I understand it's easy to be like,

everybody should have patience and just like let the vision play out. The problem with that is like, what if the person you're having patience with is an idiot, you know? Then you've wasted five years. So that's the problem with patience, but they- Shout out to the bulls, you know?

They stuck with it, you know? They've been really patient and it seems like it's with the wrong guy. I should be going nowhere. Yeah KD I feel like the KD Russ Harden core made it easy on them because like they were like, all right This guy might know what he's talking about. So we'll let him not go after Damien Lillard Kemba Walker Bradley Beal and talking about. So we'll let him not go after Damien Lillard, Kemba Walker, Bradley Beale and poor Zingas. I mean, it's so that that is like, that's like the grim Reaper knocking at the door meme of names. You know,

it's like literally any of those guys would have destroyed this title run. I think because of how much they're making and like how many, you know, how much flexibility the Thunder wouldn't have had to go get guys like Alex Caruso, Isaiah Hartenschein, all that stuff like it just would have made them a totally different team with any of those guys and probably torpedoed this run before it began. Yeah, I'm just so impressed, you know, like because in the era of impatient front offices, impatient owners, impatient fans that just this truly, this is the philosophy we're sticking to

and see it pay off just in this spectacular way. Where does this even rank with other executives who are like, here's my thing, we're gonna try this, and I think it's gonna work, and I think this is actually gonna bring sustainable performances to this club, this franchise. I feel like it's pretty similar to Brad Stevens having a singular vision that they stuck with for a period of time in Boston and them winning the title last year.

But even they are not... It feels like he's the only person who has them, like who was talking about aprons, because like he, they just seem so well set up and the rest of the league is like now being like, oh no, oh, we're going to have to trade some of our guys who like are good. And they just seem like they've got it like just a nesting doll of like, you know, people coming of age at the right time and contracts like feeding into one another. It sort of reminds me of where Presti came from the Spurs. It's you know, when they have their dynasty going on and they were just like they were

drafting guys and just bring them in and developing them and sort of cost controlling them. And it was again different CBA. You know, you could pay to keep a Manu and, you know, Tony Parker and a Tim Duncan and, you know, and a Kawhi and all these guys. But it does, it's reminiscent of that, of like, hey, we're not going to get necessarily get stars to come here and free agency or demand a trade to end up here. And so we just need to take all the bets on young talent that we can and figure out who works.

Yeah. And it sounds like also just like having really dedicating the, like the culture of the players too, because this isn't like a team with like stars in that sense, like with egos like that. And I feel like, yeah, it's, yeah, it's hard to have that kind of thing, especially now in the area. They all talk like coach Carter,

like Friday night lights character. It's just like, it's an entire team of just like coach speak. It's like they all talk exactly like Presti from the coach down to the players and all that stuff. So, you know, really, it's really a culture of saying absolutely nothing interesting ever. And so maybe that's the lesson. Not a lot of familiar names on that roster from that year when he's given that speech. But Shea Gilgis Alexander, Lugansdort, Lugats, Lou Dort and the coach were all there.

And you know, despite the fact that their offensive rating was 30th of 30, their overall rating was like 30th of 30, defensive rating was 24th, net rating 30th of 30 in the league, like the worst in the league. I remember they were real bad that year. There were a lot of guys playing that are, I'm guessing are not in the league anymore. Four years ago, five years ago, like four years ago, they were the worst in the league. They didn't land Janis.

They didn't like just suddenly pull one of the great players. They had the best player that currently was on their team when they won the title a few days ago. He was on their team that year. He was hurt, but like he was, he was there and nobody was saying anything except like, man, he's actually like developing into a nice little player. Um, but nobody was like, this is the core. Right. Yeah.

It was like, you know, maybe he could make an all star team was like, you know, that Shay, maybe he could make an all-star team one day, you know, in the right year. SGA and Lou Dort were not, nobody was like, that's the core, there's your core. The core is in place. And you know, it's pretty impressive what they just pulled off. So shout out to the Thunder. Shout out to the Thunder fans.

Shout out to Sonic fans going back. Anybody who stuck with them? There's not a lot of Sonic crossover. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of angry Sonic's fans. Shout out to Sonic fans who are angry about that. Mainly that's what I identify with is a spite as an NBA fan.

Not only did your team move, but they moved with like maybe the best NBA GM ever running the team and like apparently patient owners and like all that, like everything that you would want from your team. And they're just like, you know, we're just going to take this and move it to Oklahoma City, but you can watch from afar. It's fine. You know, that's I can't even imagine how I would feel as a Sonic fan today. Yeah.

Should we should we move to the other side of the ball? Yeah. Because I can't remember a runner up that is as memorable as this Pacers team. Yeah, for real. Maybe we take a break and then come back to Pacers. No one remembers the second place, but I don't know. I mean, yeah, you absolutely do. This one I feel like I am. Let's take a break. We'll be right back. Just like great shoes, great books take you places, through unforgettable love stories,

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Is that just because I like basketball better than football? I think so. Probably. All the, like, I remember all the teams that Jordan beat to win the title. You know, those were all like fairly iconic in my mind. Cause they're like bad guys in your, in my mind. Yeah, those are like the bad guys.

They're the bad guys. Yeah, they're the bad guys in the documentary, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. These are the guys that are trying to kill Michael Jordan midair. And then. Ontario! Yeah. And then they cut back and he's like, you know, these are the guys that are trying to kill Michael Jordan midair. And then, yeah, and they cut back and he's like, you know, I just, I popped my leg back into place. I ate some food poison pizza and just got back out there, you know, the Pacers were so memorable. Like, I can't remember a team having a run like this that felt this out of nowhere, like heading into the playoffs, I don't like, they just like had a magic about them that like started

coming out in the playoffs. I know they were playing well, but I don't think anybody saw this. Like where, where does this rank on like second place, like teams that lost in the finals for you in terms of like how memorable they are Harrison? You know, honestly, the team that comes to mind as a memorable second place finisher is actually the Thunder from when they lost to the heat because it was like, hey, look at these young guys. It's clear that the you know, they have something cooking here.

They're going to be back a bunch more times. Right. And then they never were. And but that was a fairly memorable team. They upset the Spurs. You know, they had again, it was like young KD, young Russ. It's like the teams don't win when they're this young and they ended up not winning, but they were really good. And I do remember that team from that year quite a bit. I'm trying to, I mean, I guess maybe either the Spurs or the Heat from their finals battles, you know, those were both sort of, you know, like the year that the

Spurs came up short in game seven, they were obviously a memorable runner up. Yeah, they were up in 2010. But it's always like iconic teams that the Spurs came up short in game seven, they were obviously a memorable runner up. Yeah, they were up there for sure. But it's always like iconic teams that like you had a sense were going to be there coming in to the playoffs. So this was like such a weird, like almost like NCAA tournament as Cinderella run that just like came up. It felt like they were a great comp. They were primed for a DVD basically, you know,

of this postseason. They're like, oh, this is going to be a good DVD. When TJ McConnell scored like five times in a row, it's like, what is, like, what is actually happening right now? I'm going to love watching this scene in the documentary. That's inevitable about this run. But yeah, just another Achilles injury, Miles, as you pointed out to an all-star who wears the number zero, the third one of these playoffs. I was just being like, what's with the number zero this year? I mean, I've Kyrie doesn't wear zero, but I think maybe look in my mind, maybe it's the one weird note thing I noticed when it has happened, but maybe it's the low top

sneakers. I don't know, man. I don't know. It's so weird. It's yeah. So where do you land with the the Achilles of it all? Yeah, I just think that it's you know, this has been said before, but it's that the sport is so different than it ever was in, you know, the years when sort of like we were talking about, like the Jordan years, stuff like that. There wasn't this amount of running around on defense, stop, start, rotations and all

of that stuff. And I do wonder if it's just taking a toll on guys' bodies. And I also remember reading like an ESPN story from Baxter Homes a number of years ago where it was like, where it was talking about how youth sports specialization is actually making guys' knees worse. This is like a documented thing because kids aren't playing multiple sports and like working out multiple different muscles anymore. It's like, you know, you're just using those run

and jump muscles playing basketball. And over and over and over and over. You know, you're wearing out, there's more guys coming into the league with knee issues. And I think it's like a combination of all of that stuff is bodies this big weren't meant to be dis-coordinated and moving around and stopping and starting all the time. And you know, it's just players are bigger

and more skilled than they've ever been. And it's a more frenetic game than it's ever been. And I do think that there is probably something to that. Well, especially with the way these teams played, like off, like the Pacers offense and the Thunder defense, if someone from like 30 years, you like, what are they doing out there? What is this? Yeah. You don't bring in like one of the bad boys piscency is like illegal defense. Yeah. What is this? You just bring in like one of the bad boys piscinzies like illegal

defense. Yeah. What are you? Oh, so we can also the screen we can move now. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I got something for that. Although I would have loved to see that. Yeah. To your point, like Michael Jordan, uh, stunk at basketball when he was a sophomore in high school, as we all know, got cut and only liked baseball as the story goes. That's not true. He just like didn't make his varsity team. I think his freshman year or sophomore year, he was still good. But yeah, it does seem like specialization is more a thing.

Everybody's like, okay, now I'm going to going from basketball practice to my one-on-one basketball training session with my basketball coach. Yeah, it's, I don't know exactly what it is. It definitely just seems like it's harder on the body and we're probably gonna see a world where like people get shut down in the finals regardless of, you know, how close it is because they have a strained calf. Like the strained calf feels like it's gotta be a red line now.

I mean, I remember last week, Sarah Todd was on and we were talking about like, it sounds like he's gonna play with that calf injury. And everyone was like, of course he's gonna play with that, this is it. Yeah, and we were joking, we're like, that thing is gonna be fall off the bone tender by the time he's done playing with that. And it went a little bit too literally, but that just completely changed how I might just for me, it was such a blow to the enjoyment of that game.

And it felt like that's kind of how it even felt in the arena too. Like it felt very subdued. Like it was kind of like, yeah, we won. That was kind of a grim way to end it all though. That felt a little bit rough. I don't know if that was the same for everyone else, but at a certain point, I had to actively just kind of walk away for long stretches, because like, oh, this is tough. No, it almost looked like the Thunder players

were going through it too, of processing of like, did we just watch this guy's entire career change? And then now it's, you know, we got to go play do or die basketball. It just seemed like, again, it takes nothing away from thunder. They were obviously totally deserving and legitimate champion. It was just a really weird vibe for a game seven of you had all these guys just clearly processing it in the moment. And even like you said, in the arena, like I think the thunder players probably feel

bad to some degree, you know, they're professional athletes. These guys are all human. Like nobody wants to see that. And they probably also want to win that. Like, and just as competitors, like I want to beat the best version of my opponent, you know, I don't ever want to feel like we only won because this happened, although we were playing very well, but even like even the locker room felt very, even with those Michelle Lowe joints, Michelle Lowe ultra joints.

Yeah. Yeah. Uh, our, our man, Chet even shut out shit. The Michelob Ultra joints? Yeah. Our man Chet even seems Chet. Did you hear that clip? For Chet. No, I saw the one of Alex Caruso teaching them how to open champagne.

Yeah. Remember where you learned that Alex? Yeah. No, this is right after they were talking to Chet about like the champagne showers, the locker room, what's going on, and then he hits us with a brand new pronunciation for Michelob ultra. But for now I got my Michelob ultra joints. Yeah, my Michelob baby.

Chet is my favorite, like parks and rec side character, you know, that's truly he is written like a, We were trying to figure out what it was. We were saying like extras maybe, like he's like- Like Ricky Gervais. The Ricky Gervais show, you know, like just a heightened version of like, what a comedy writer would think was funny if he had that personality.

And yeah, whoever's writing him, they're nailing it. Cause it's very funny. You could see him in parks and rec, like at those city council meetings. That's what I was going to say. He's at the city council meeting, like complaining about like fluoride in the water. No, no, he's complaining about the varietals at the library.

Not enough. There's not enough varieties of picture book. Yeah. We were obsessed with this clip Harrison, where he takes you through his favorite books and he's, uh, the things you can't live without. Yeah. Yeah. He says these are, it's a type of book with pictures, uh, that I like to call coffee table books. And then, and then is like, shows you one that's about jewelry. And he's like, but I've got all

sorts of varieties of these and then shows you another just like coffee table book. And then shows you another just like coffee table book Books are Varieties, I've got different varieties of books. Yeah, baby like yeah his carrot he needs to be wearing Snowboarding goggles on all his way. Yeah, like I feel like that's Forever still yet to come for him. And it needs to happen. That's the next. He's definitely, he's like, he feels like he'd be John Ralphio's bodyguard or something.

That's right. We're gonna get photos of him like celebrating in, like overseas somewhere. He's like on his like, you know, like post championship European vacation, and he's gonna be surfing on like two surfboards that they had to weld together or something. You know, it's just.

Duck tape them together. Whoa, you know? Yeah. It's just. Duck tape them together. It's like, whoa, Slender Man coming down the wave. Yeah, yeah, whoa, easy baby, easy. I will say, shout out to him though. He gave me the idea for my best bet, which was betting on Oklahoma City last year in the off season. Unfortunately, a year too early,

but man, just seeing him in summer league, I was like, he looks good. Maybe they'll be good this year. And they were just not quite good enough. What do you think Harrison, this sort of finals run kind of says for a lot of people who are like, yeah, I don't see the Pacers. There's going to be a Thunder in four, five, maybe five, probably at most. Do you think there are like, is that I was talking to one of my friends who was basically disrespecting the Pacers the whole time, despite like performance after performance. And it wasn't until game seven that he was like, all right, maybe like fine.

I was like, really, it took you that long. I just feel I don't know. I mean, like this where where do you where how should people be really be looking at this team? Because I feel like some people might just go back to, I don't know. I mean, like this. Where do you where how should people be really be looking at this team? Because I feel like some people might just go back to, I don't know, like without knowing how Halliburton injuries Halliburton's injury is going to pan out and just all of it, you know, surrounding this the end of the season. Does this seem like, you know, are they going to be right back in it?

Yeah, I mean, what sucks with the injury is it's a year long one. And he literally had it in the last possible basketball game that you could play. And so he's like all of next year's probably wiped out for them. You know, like bar again, they are a team out of a sports movie. And so they could prove us wrong. And it's like, Oh, TJ McConnell's an all star next year. TJ McConnell's sister is now on the team. And you're like, okay, great.

I love this Disney sports movie plot line. It's like, I got to invite my sister to come play because we had an injury. You know, my dad's the coach. Yeah, there's a weird old bylaw that says if I have the same last name as the person they're allowed to suit up Where's it say my sister can't play basketball? He's like they're like no Air Bud rules don't work in real life You know, we actually do have a rule against that. Yeah, there are there are courts where people would adjudicate this decision Yeah, she has the same initials. T.J. McConnell. I broke my ankle, but she can come in and play for on paper.

The exact same thing. Does the NBA not do trial by combat? Yeah, exactly. So I think they're probably done for next year, which does suck. But I think that I've never felt more like one of the pundits that they show in the montage in a sports movie when like after games that the Pacers played where I'm like, you know, I was down at my parents' house, you know,

I'm associate director of pro basketball. They're asking me for my opinion on the finals. I'm like, oh, I got to sound smart. I'm like, you know, Pacers, cute story. I just like, I don't even know if they can get a game. This Thunder team, this Thunder defense is so good. And then they win game one and I just look like an idiot. And you know, it's like, I can see the clips of, you know,

all the first take, you know, talking heads, the, you know, you're the people on Fox Sports, the whatever, you know, it's the montage of like this team has no chance. And then TJ McConnell is like showing a video of it in the locker room to all of his guys. And he's like, Thomas Bryan, are you going to let them talk about you like that? And he's like, no, I'm not. I'm going to score nine.

Yeah, I did see your parents were in the comments of our episode talking a lot of trash about your tape. I mean, deservedly so. Yeah, you know, they got three other kids. So they'll be fine. But it's just, you know, I feel bad for embarrassing them on a national stage like this. That's right. All right. Should we move beyond the finals matchup? Sure. Look to the future. How long do we have with this? Like, yes, the Thunder look set for the future.

The West also looks very competitive and there's a lot of intriguing people who might jump up, such as Victor Wemba Nyama. How long do we think until the Spurs are a contender? Because I think some people were like, I don't know, maybe, maybe this year. And that didn't end up being the case because of an injury, but also prior to the injury also didn't seem to be the case.

What do we think? Is it this year? They just don't seem to be in a rush. I think it's two more. I think it's another year after this before they start to enter that conversation. I think Wemby will have to keep developing, although he's obviously incredible already, but they're probably going to lose something with Chris Paul going out. I mean, I know they have De'Aaron Fox now, but it doesn't seem like they're rushing

to make an all in move this summer. Like they didn't seem to get seriously involved in the KD sweepstakes. Maybe they would have if Yannis was actually available, but it doesn't seem like he's going to be. And so maybe that is what would have actually led to them making an all in swing. But for right now, it seems like they're sort of happy to patiently slow play it, you know, draft Harper second and sort of go like into next year is, hey, we're going to continue to figure out like which of these young guys are actually good and try and you know, the thunder honestly just made a case for them to be patient

and say, you know, hey, let's figure out, you know, sort of if any of these draft, how good these draft picks are and then where we actually need veteran help. Right. Man, it's just everything went right for the thunder. Like all those players developed like best case scenario. But yeah, I don't it'll, it'll be, it'll be interesting to see. And like you said, I mean, maybe the Spurs were like the people who gave Presti the playbook since that's where he hails from. But I don't know. I would have liked to see them get to rant. The KD to the Rockets. What do we think? I feel like the Rockets won that trade.

I think they're going to be pretty interesting. It's a lot of pressure on KD to the Rockets, what do we think? I feel like the Rockets won that trade. I think they're going to be pretty interesting. It's a lot of pressure on KD to be like a bucket down the stretch, but that is like the thing that he's maybe the best of all time at. Do we think the Rockets are a contender right away? I think so. I mean, they were already so good on defense last year that this was, you know, they, it's rare that you see a team plug their only hole in one trade and just like immediately address all the concerns about that. And it's just like that was their one thing that they could not do last year was, you know, they didn't have a go-to guy down the stretch of games. They could stay in games, but teams continually out executed them down the stretch because offense generally beats

defense in those moments. And because of how good offenses in the NBA are and how tough it can be to play defense. And so I think KD just sort of, you know, solves that problem. You know, you're, you're not going to be able to guard him with the game on the line. Like, and so as long as he can sort of contribute enough and they don't lose too much in the Dylan Brooks sort of absence on defense or, you know, whatever sort of ephemeral like culture stuff. I think they should be probably right into the contention conversation. But then they're in the Western Conference, Harrison. And that would mean if they're in the, I didn't say they're going to win the title. I think they're going to be in the, yeah.

Yeah. But then, but then that means that that means the Lakers can't be in the finals. Well, and I, and I can't, I'm just much too fragile right now to even handle that. I mean, obviously seeing them keep like, a men Thompson and Shen Gun and all that. I'm like, yeah, this is trouble for sure. How do they? Yeah. How? How did the sons, I'm not, I'm going to stop asking myself hypothetical questions about

why the sons do things. If I'm a good GM, I'm calling the sons every day. I just want to see what they offer me. Yeah. What do you got? You can't, you're selling anything? What do you got over there? What do you got for me? Yeah. They're like, they're like, hey, we'll, we'll give you Grayson Allen for a second round pick. Oh, sure, man. Man, he's collecting seconds now. We don't, nobody knows why. He thinks he's going for Yannis, but he's going to make the trade before. Just say you got to set yourself up. You know, right. Who's the ideal player to match with Luca for the next five, five years or so if you could choose any player

from the league. Oh, that's interesting. If I could choose any player, it would be probably Wimby. Just like he's just such a cheat code on the lobs and stuff like that. And like so clearly addresses a lot of the defensive stuff and just, I think, sort of gives you a, you know, a version of what the Lakers had, honestly, in the LeBron and AD tandem in the bubble where you have like the big that is incredible defensively still a problem on offense. And then you have the incredibly talented wing score playmaker guy. And you just sort of have to fill in defenders around that. But they sort of have the offense taken care of as long as you have enough

credible shooting around them. And so, yeah, it would be Wimby. I mean, the Lakers were obviously not getting him. But if I could choose any player in the league, it would be him. OK, of the people in the Mark Walter era that we're entering, who do you think is like a realistic sort of, you know, people are like, though, maybe they'll try and get gaffered. I'm like, they're not gonna do that.

Don't be silly. But like, what do you think is realistic in terms of if we're not gonna be, we'll be a little bit more reckless with the spending, perhaps, and not fear with the financials of it all? Well, I think that the way that that's gonna affect things more is going to be in the Lakers, like sort of building out their organization, you know, that hiring more scouts, hiring pro

personnel scouts, which they don't have. Yeah, we didn't have scouts. I was like, what? No, no, no, they have scouts. They just didn't have scouts scouting the NBA. Yeah, yeah. That's what I mean. Like, like other teams did. I'm like, oh, we're truly like kind of resting on our laurels to be like, yeah, you know. Yeah, Yeah, a little bit. I think. Yeah. Yeah. But when I read that, I was like, come on, baby, you can't. They're like, sort of they were like, you know, Rob watches all the Laker games, so

he'll see the guys when they play against us, I guess. Like that's it's fine. Right. Yeah. And so, you know, they're just going to have a lot of resources like that. You've seen the dog, the Dodgers. It's not just that they spent on payroll. It's that they have like a best in class organization in terms of, you know,

and that's what that guy did there. And he sort of slow built that up. He found the right GM. He built around him. He, you know, like fleshed out the front office with as many smart people that he could hire. And like, that's the really the area where your money can have more impact than on player salaries, because especially in the second apron era,

you know, there's so many basketball penalties to exceeding that, that you're almost better off, like everybody's going to spend essentially the same amount. Very few teams are going to go like, wait, I mean, some teams may go under the first apron, you know, but very few teams are going to go over the second apron for a long time. And so you almost can get more bang for your buck, I think, in just like trying to build out your other advantages in terms of scouting, in terms of getting the best coaches possible on not just your main coach, but your assistant coaches, all of that kind of stuff. But Harrison, you're talking about, it sounds like the concept you're talking about things like long-term sustainability, stability. Bro, the question was how am I getting to the finals next year? I need that now. Let's go.

Well, so I think the bucks are really going to want the Lakers 2031 first round pick, you know, you'd think. And so I think that's enough to get Yannis. 2031. Yeah. Yeah. I think on the Luka scale, I think that's enough. Yeah. That's what I wanted to hear.

Thank you. Thank you. Tell me about the rabbits, George. I think, you know, if you just, if you throw in Dalton Connect, that I think is like, that gives Milwaukee a star to build around for the future. I'll be playing the role of a Lakers fan. I think you put too much there.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I think that's it. Not West Side Connect, no. Maybe, yeah, yeah, yeah. Super producer Jabari is pointing out, like maybe we're talking pick swap here. I don't know about first. You're right. I'm negotiating against myself. If I'm going to them, I'm calling up Milwaukee and I'm saying you can have one

second round pick swap for Yanis. Yeah. So by the end of the day, the clock is going to hang up the balls in your court, sir. Yeah. Good night. Do you want the number one draft pick next year? I'm just saying balls Balls in your court. Hangs up. One last thing.

On the off season moves, Drew Holliday going back to the Blazers, Amphornee Simons going to the Celtics. Sits so badly with me. Such a weird trade. Such a weird trade that just feels like it's being written by the Celtics. Like the Celtics just needed this and so they got it. Like, I don't know, like they got, they got the blazers like, here's Drew Holliday for the two years where you need him and can win a championship. And then you give them back to us for our young prospect who we currently say is like, completely untouchable. And I know he wasn't like, great last season,

but still just feels like, ah, I don't know, man. They did like what those, the European soccer teams did. They sent Drew Holliday to the Celtics on loan, you know? And they're getting him back now. And yeah. You guys done? Are you sure? Okay. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, you just send him back. And do you guys want Anthony Simons, maybe?

I don't know. Joe Cronin saw, he's like, You just send them back and do you guys want to Anthony Simons? Maybe? I don't know. Joe Cronin saw he's like the last team to show the last two teams to trade for drew holiday, won a title the first year. I gotta go get this guy. That's right. What's his contract even worth? Like this, isn't it something wacky too? Like he's not, he's on a, he's on big money, isn't he? Yeah. It's 30 to 40 million. I think, if I'm remembering correctly, I mean, I. Yeah, he's from a salary perspective. Again, why the Celtics did it.

Right, right. But I'm like, whoa. Okay. Well, good luck to you in Portland. Good luck to you. All right. Should we take a break and come back and do the final rapid fire round of questioning? Sure, I guess we have to.

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The physical is the secret. It also was podcast history podcast. It's on I heard co-produced with the NBA co-hosted by people named jaws and Jack, Giles and Mac. We're going to ask you a question. You just respond 50% of those words. Um, just it's very important. You understand all from a legal perspective.

Yeah. From a leap from legally you have to know, but we're going to ask you a question. You just respond your chest pastor right back, just right back to us. Okay. Don't think about it. Just answer. I'm a, I'm a Matt Boosies veteran. I know how this works. Okay. You are. You are. My sweet, sweet sweet boosties child You want to go first Jack or shall I miles I'd love for you to go first, oh my goodness Okay Harrison we're gonna do a this player pairing or that player pairing that you would prefer to see. Or you could get with that.

I think you should get with this because this is where it's at. The first one, okay? This or that. Luka and Janus or Wemby and Janus? Wemby and Janus, I think. Whoa, that would be crazy. Those guys are both so tall. How does that work? I Just think is it not rapid-fire, but I think Your defense is just impossible to score on with those guys out there. Yes

Defense is actually also important. It turns out guys named Harrison love defense and think of yeah important it turns out. Guys named Harrison love defense and think it wins championships. So they do say that. All right. Luca and Joker or Joker and Wemby. I feel like we know you're Wemby over Luca. Is that correct? I think I'd go Luca and Joker just because that would be, you know, yeah, I think, I think their offense would be so unstoppable. Playing that Balkan ball. Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah.

Sign me up. Wimby Jokic just feels like a weird fit to me. I'm not sure. Like they're both great. They'd make it work, but it's just like, it's a strange fit. It feels like somehow they would get in each other's way physically.

Yeah. You can't have that. Not at the same time on the same team. Oh, my God. Get out of my way. What are you doing? Although Wemby Wemby would be thrilled. He's like, I don't have to guard Yokech anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love this. Luca and Wemby or Joker and Yannis.

I think we maybe know this. Luca and Wemby or Joker and Yannis. I would go, I think. Probably Joker and Yannis. Yeah, I'm just I'm just imagining both of those. I just know Luka Wemby would be so fun. I'm going Luka Wemby. Yeah, Luka Wemby you gotta go. Yeah, I just like Yannis hasn't shown me enough off the ball to be like that.

It's like, oh, he's immediately going to go sort of run off to if you like you would want him to. Yeah, I think I think it's Luca and that you will notice that we just go silent when you do the wrong, the wrong answer and then until you answer. Not that one. Okay. Luca, Shay, you'll just Alexander or Luca and Ant and these are being presented by Jabari as just like, these are our options here. Because both of these guys are going to come home eventually. I'm going Luca and Ant because I just think Ant was born to be a Laker, like many great players from the history of Minnesota. And, you know, I think he could be the city's latest, greatest Minneapolis import.

Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. It's just a pipeline coming from Minneapolis. There's a long tradition of Minneapolis handing things to Los Angeles so that they can flourish. We just drink their milkshake, as it were. Okay, so Harrison, we just talked about the KD trade and we had the Desmond Bain news last week where he said, I was in a chamber of

Darkness like Bane. It was so dark in that windowless facility Can you give us your predictions on where these players are gonna end up next season and get na na na na na na na Getting silly with it You like Jack Fuller after my fast? That was good. Cool. Well you had to do the na na na na na na or else you just have to do that. It falls apart. It really falls apart.

It really falls apart to be honest. To be Yanis, Harrison, where's Yanis going to be next season? Milwaukee. Okay. And now do a silly one. Now do a silly one. Toronto. Na na na na na na na.

Wow. Why Toronto? I don't know it just seems like the type of thing that they do like where To go on for a year But the wildly talented wing that is available to them for some reason for lower than it would be for other teams And you know just go win a title. That's what my side does. All right, John and triple J Where they going? They're both going to the same team. They're getting sent out in like a sure.

They could get silly with it. No, no, no, no, no, no. I don't know if you've heard. I think I think as good as you are, you can always get better. You know, use some some more bench weapons. Yeah. Um, Joss six man of the year, you know, it's perfect role. What about LeBron James? I mean, really, the only answer. Actually, you know, it's perfect role. What about LeBron James?

I mean really the only answer actually, you know what? I'm going to say Dallas, Dallas. Oh, he wants to, he wants to go rejoin with AD and he's wanting to play with Kyrie. You know, he's just like, yeah, it seems like they, they, they get things done for their players over there as long as they're not Luca, you know, he wanted a center. He got, he got seven centers. So, you know, LeBron, LeBron's going to get nine point cards to take the load off of him until he gets tired of them and takes over

at point card again. All right. And finally, Jaylen Brown. I would have said the Rockets until they made the KD trade, because that seemed like it was something that was, you know, maybe going to happen. Yeah. The Hawks, they want to make some noise. Mm hmm. From Atlanta, bringing him home. Yeah, it's all about From Atlanta. Yeah

Here's all the right answers. Yeah. Well, let's know we got to bring it home now Oh, yeah, those were the right answers, but I can't oh this could be the wrong answer That's the wrong answer in that section. Those are all the right answers this next section This could be a wrong answer and there is a wrong answer one One last time Harrison Fagan for everybody in the back, Jack or Miles? Miles, you know, Lakers exceptionalism. It's the right answer. Look I have to do it. I can't, I can't pick some East coaster. Come on. Oh, that's a great answer. Look, I do it. I can't.

Oh, I can't pick some East coaster. Come on. Oh, thank you. Sorry. I needed that. I needed that. That's cool. Jack's fine.

He's fine. He's going to be fine. He's going to jack. Jack, you're my second favorite host. You know? Wow. Yeah. Your top two means a lot.

It's pretty good. You know, it's huge. Top two, Miles and Jack. Um. Um. Um. Um. It's okay.

I believe I was three in 168, according to Brian. So that's, that all makes sense. For the 171 episodes where he asked that? Well, we stopped asking for a while because it was getting a little silly. No. So what happened is we, we stopped leaving it in the episode. We asked every time and it was like, whenever they'd say Miles, I'd be like,

cut it! Yeah. Cut it! You broke a lot of desks, I remember. Wait, did you guys seriously use to ask us every guest? Yeah, we did. That's insane. Oh, insanely good, right?

Good content. Well, now I feel worse for Jack. I'm sorry. Oh yeah, man. No, I'm sorry. It's been a hard road, you know, but me and Sam Presti, taking some solace from Sam Presti, just really keep doing it. Keep, oh wait, the show's ending.

Yep. Um, Hey man, shortcuts can cut a long run short as they say, you know? And we took no shortcuts and this was a long and storied ride. So Harrison Fagan, thank you so much for joining us on the final episode of Miles and Jack Got Mad Boosties. Boosties. Boosties.

Where do the people find you? Because you continue on to cover the league. Miles and I disappear at the end of this episode. Like Obi-Wan Kenobi, just a pile of clothes. Yeah, oh my god, Jack just went in a force ghost. He really just disappeared. His clothes just dropped to the ground. Yeah, and he's blue. Yeah. You know, you can follow me on Twitter at at HMFagan and then obviously all of our work over at SBNation.com. And guys, thanks for having me for the last one. It's an, it's been an honor.

And yeah, I was, I was not excited to get the call because it means the show's ending, but you know, I, I appreciate the invite. Oh man. Well, you can find me everywhere at miles of gray. If you, if you still want, if you still wish. And obviously on other show, the daily zeitgeist, there's still going on, on that Jack underscore O'Brien on Twitter, Jack OB the number one on blue sky, a reference to OB one and my ability to just turn into a pile of clothes. Yep.

Oh my God, you came back. Yeah, there he is. There we are. Uh, that's it. That's it. Don't search hashtag my boosties for links and updates. This is gonna be it. But we will be talking NBA on a. Daily Zeitgeist.

Daily Zeitgeist. And of course, yeah, the chattering still goes on. Again, thank you to everybody who played a pivotal role in this show. Obviously Jabari Davis, Brian the editor, our two biggest day ones, literal day ones on this show. This show would not be where it is without your work, your dedication, lending me your basketball intelligence to pretend I'm not just a totally out of my mind Laker fan.

And I do know some things about the other teams from time to time. So I, I do owe you a debt of gratitude forever. Jabari, also just, you know, the I-Hart family, Sean, Sean, Peter, Grace you know from day one and the NBA people, Stephen, Channing, Meredith, love to you all thank you for taking the chance on two just wacky dudes. Adam Silver, yeah Adam Silver. Adam was a big fan. LeBron James.

When Channing come on we were like let's not mix business and pleasure Adam. Yep. But you know always fun and you know these three years, as a Sixers fan, a lot of times when I'm looking back at that beach and I only see one set of footsteps, and I say, Miles, why did you abandon me? You say, Jack, it was during those seasons that I carried you, and so I have to thank you as well.

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