The Daily Zeitgeist - MJGMB #65: Bright Times Ahead in the Valley of the Sun with Gerald Bourguet

Episode Date: June 21, 2023

Miles and Jack were pleased to be joined by the lead writer for PHNX Sports, Gerald Bourguet on the latest episode. The trio discussed the surprising deal involving Bradley Beal and Chris Paul, and what additional options the Phoenix Suns may have moving forward!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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of the offseason as teams are getting ready for the draft free agency and what might end up being a flurry of trades this summer a blizzard oh yeah exactly actually yeah i like that's also a snow reference i just thank you wanted to let people know i'm here too okay good to know we're gonna get into the beal to the sun's deal hey that rhymes uh what could be next for cp3 and plenty more with the lead writer for Phoenix Sports, Gerald Borge. On today's episode, I'm Miles Gray. And I'm Jack O'Brien.

And this is Miles and Jack on Mad Boosties. I go high, you go low. We love it. Three on one. Davis. Love. LeBron. He can't be driving, spinning, fading. Hit it. Three on one. Davis. Rob. LeBron.

There you go. And B, driving, spinning, fading, hitting. Curry, a three-pointer. Bang! Steph Curry from downtown again. Giannis with the take. Uh-oh, look out. A little showtime.

What you got, Giannis? That was actually a good harmonic intro, I think, at that time. Yeah, I agree. Gerald, what do you think? Yeah, Gerald, sorry, Gerald Borge from the Phoenix sports. Please.

I think you guys have great chemistry. It's clear you spent more than one training camp together. So I love it. Oh, thank you. Thanks, man. Yeah.

I've been putting in the work. Guess what? They threw us together at the last minute, man. And we're just figuring it out. Just figuring. I just met this guy 10 minutes ago. They were actually tanking.

It was like Utah this season. They were tanking. And then we just had chemistry. We figured it out. Yeah. They call Jack the Markanen of podcasting. See, I was going to say you guys are like the KD and the sons of podcasting. Just kind of threw them together, and they had to come together at the right time. Dream team.

Wait, who's booking? Which one do you want to be, Jack? I think I'm the old head, right? I've got a lot of spray on hair. Okay, yeah, yeah. Well, actually, with my male pattern baldness, maybe I would be better off being Kevin Durant. All right.

You always want to be KD. Hey, look, I love anyone who has a name referencing a big spider in the form of Durantula. That was the thing that always got me pulled in. He does not like that. Anyways, Gerald, exciting times. Phoenix, I feel like, is dedicated to be the most exciting team off the court,

just in terms of they're keeping people who host podcasts about the NBA awake. They're keeping our head on a swivel. This must be exciting times for you. It is. It's exciting. It's been exciting. Over the last year,

it's been everything from historic playoff flameout, Kevin Durant rumors, to new owner, to Jay Crowder sitting out. There's no shortage of stories out here, but it can be fun. And then there's some times where you're just trying to enjoy your weekend, and then boom, Bradley Beal's falling into your lap. So here we are talking about that all week. But it's been a lot of fun. You can tell Ishby is going to be aggressive and this team is going all in despite what the new

CBA and the NBA rules are trying to prohibit moving forward. So kind of a fun time to be a Suns fan and also a high pressure stressful one as well. Yeah, they're kind of running back the experiment in brooklyn you know when it was just three ball dominant scores around the perimeter but in this case you know i i think booker might be the best score that katie's ever played with and deal i think is going to be more reliable than uh you know hard this is a tough this is a tough contest to win but more reliable than harden and kairi were with the nets um so it's going to be interesting is

this the perfect situation in terms of like this deal right because at the beginning it sounded like well cp3 is going to get waived and now that's not happening you're getting beal and ayton it was nowhere near that so is this how are you like how does this all shake out for you in the end because we're asking like well what happens with Aiton where are we headed with all this yeah that's a good question and honestly it it feels like there was a lot of people that were kind of overthinking this trade in terms of like how does Beal fit with Booker since they play the same position how are you going to build out the rest of your roster when you have so much?

Because, you know, Bill makes a lot of money on that contract he's got. And the new CBA rules are going to penalize teams that go too far into the luxury tax, take away some of their team building stuff. So there's a lot of questions. But I feel like at the end of the day, you look at the trade and they traded Chris Paul, who they were either going to waive or trade elsewhere, and Landry Schammett for Bradley freaking Beal. You weren't going to do better than that in free agency. You probably

weren't going to realistically pull off a trade for somebody better than him. And you kept DA, who you can now either keep under Frank Vogel and hope that he kind of restores his value or trade elsewhere for more depth pieces. It's about as good as you can ask. So a lot of people are saying like, Oh, they, you know, they're,

they're going in all, all in on the super team. They're too top heavy, all this stuff. But I would ask like, what could they have done this off season? That would have been better. If you look at the free agency pool,

like it's not that great. And it gives you three guys who can score from anywhere on the floor. Like, obviously they're all perimeter oriented guys, and it gives you three guys who can score from anywhere on the floor. Obviously, they're all perimeter-oriented guys, but they all shoot efficiently when they do get to the basket. They're all good catch-and-shoot guys. They're all guys that can create off the dribble. So if you surround them with defensive players,

with three-point shooters, I think you're going to be okay. And Book is enough of a playmaker now to be able to maybe not need a traditional point guard like you're used to having chris paul yeah and i bring up the brooklyn thing not as like a to throw water on this because when brooklyn was at their peak and everybody was playing they were incredible like they were they were dominating like even with like two and a half of the players you know playing playing at full steam so i don't know it's very exciting from an nba fan standpoint to like see another kind of offensive firepower just extravaganza um So I'm excited. Yeah. What about, I mean, got to ask, you look at KD, Beal,

the number of games they've been playing the last couple seasons. Is that a concern? I mean, does that strike fear into the hearts of Suns fans or just enough confidence that, you know, maybe this will all kind of coalesce and come together?

I think it has to. I think you look at KD's recent injury history, even before the last couple years with the Nets, it wasn't great, obviously. He's been fantastic when he's been on the court, but you need him to stay healthy, and you need him to shoot better than he did in the playoffs. Let's be honest, the Nuggets series was not his finest series.

And with Beal, you look at the number of games missed, it's concerning. I do think they're a little bit misleading just because this past season, he was basically shut down because the Wizards were bad. In the last couple years, some of the games that he missed were due to COVID more than actual injury. So I think that's a little

bit encouraging. But yeah, you're right. With Book, with KD, with Beal, even with da to a certain extent if he's still here the injury thing looms large because if you lose any one of those guys it's not like you have the depth of a nuggets team or a miami heat squad to kind of overcome that so you need all three of your stars to be healthy um and all four if da still on the team do you have a wish list of like, okay, this would be the two players I'd want to turn DA into

if there was a trade to happen there? So it's funny you ask that because I literally today wrote an article with 40 trade options for 300 because I'm, I'm sorry, 41 because I'm a bit of a psycho. I was going to say you were, you were lagging there, man. Yeah, like 41. Okay, 40 is lacking. 41, because I'm a bit of a psycho. I was going to say, you were lagging there, man.

Yeah, like 41, okay. 40 is lacking. 41, we can accept that. But there are a couple we've heard from a source that the Mavs have had a standing offer for DA since the end of the season, which was Josh Green, Tim Hardaway Jr., and the number 10 pick.

That doesn't add up financially. You need to throw in Maxi Kleba. I'm not crazy about that deal. I'm not surprised the Suns haven't taken it. But I also do think the Magic are a team that we've heard is in play. You know, a deal surrounding Wendell Carter Jr., maybe Bulbul, maybe Jonathan Isaac,

something like that. The Suns pushed back and wanted a guard, but that was before the Bradley Beal trade. So Carter is honestly, he might be a better player than DA at this point. He makes a fraction of what DA does. So something like that would probably work, I think, if you're the Suns.

I also look at the Hawks or the Pacers as teams that you might trade with. If you get Miles Turner back, who arguably had a better season. If you get Clint Capella back, who's a really good rim protector and would fit in perfectly with Vogel likes to do. I think you're trying to target a center who can do like 80% of what DA does for maybe half or two thirds of the price. I got one listener question because people were like, we got experts on the Suns coming in coming in uh but aaron mccarthy was asking just a couple couple questions because i want to get the fan questions in first off is like are we looking at full-time point book and if you got

to the question about is aiden going to stick around and what kind of people would you flip them for uh and also who else is going to summer league and will they get to meet any more suns players this year yeah so to answer your questions um i do think we can expect to see a lot of point book. I think if you look at his numbers in the playoffs without Chris Paul, he's averaging like seven or eight assists per game. He was still shooting lights out in that stretch. Like they're pretty confident that even though it puts a little more tread on his tires and will wear him down,

they have enough playmaking between Booker and Beal and Katie. They can take turns bringing the ball up court. And they have enough scoring and passing there to make it work without a point guard. I do think in terms of DA, I'd be surprised if he's still on the roster, just because $32.5 million is a lot to pay for what he provides at this point.

Like I said, the Suns have been kind of queasy about giving him this max level money for years now. And I do think that they think if they can get like 80% of what he does for half the cost, they're going to pursue that option because they have been really good with their offense and getting centers open

with their pick and roll stuff. And then in terms of what was the last question? Oh, Summer League. I honestly have no idea. the only guy that was like on the roster last year that went to summer league was ish wainwright and now he's probably not going to go so i think they have the 52nd pick in this year's draft still that's probably the only guy that might actually be on the roster who you'll probably see at summer league maybe jordan goodwood now that he's coming back in the beale trade or like isaiah todd those guys that the wizards kind of threw in there you might see

them but outside of that not not a ton of excitement if you're a suns fan for summer right now that cp3 has been traded to the wizards i feel like what i'm hearing from fans like people who have a team that they root for. They all seem to be like, man, I don't know. For you guys, I don't see it fitting. I could definitely see him for our team, though. It feels like everybody wants a piece of CP3 next season

for whatever reason. Who do you think makes the most sense? Where do you see him landing? I'd be surprised if it's not the Clippers at this point. I thought if the Suns were going to waive him that they could probably bring him back because he's still a good player. He's not washed.

He's nowhere near the all-NBA player he was the last two years before this season. But he still shot a really good percentage from three. He kind of evolved as more of a catch-and-shoot guy because he played off the ball more this season. And despite playing off the ball more this season, he was still top five in assists. So he can still run an offense. He's a little bit more of a liability on defense now. He can still be a little bit too ball dominant for some teams.

I'm curious how that would work if he does go to the Clippers when they've already got Paul George and Kawhi Leonard. But I think Paul can still contribute on a winning team. It's just that contract, like that 31 mil that he's owed. It's a good thing. Only like 16 million of it is guaranteed. And I think that's probably why a lot of teams maybe wouldn't make a trade offer that they would if he was playing on like a 12 or a $14 million deal.

The contract's probably the biggest and the fact that he can't stay healthy in the playoffs like that just that's out of his control but it is something you have to factor in there right yeah it's tough to have a person you rely on who can't stay healthy in the playoffs as a sixers fan um yeah i mean even like to your point when we were we were having the conversation like i don't know cook maybe i don't know if i could see him on the six. I could see him on the Lakers, though. Yeah, I see him on the Lakers. And I'm saying that.

And then also, like, I could also see him getting just terribly injured by November. And that's just part of the back and forth. If he ended up at the Clippers, would they also be keeping Russell Westbrook in that in that scenario? I've seen reports that say that they would be interested in keeping the two of them together. And, you know, Chris Paul has a lot of respect for Russ. So as much as they've had their on-court battles and scuff-ups or whatever, they do have a lot of respect for each other, especially after that last playoff series.

I don't know how that would work because I feel like Russ played really well in that role that they had him in. And Chris is not going to be coming off the bench. So are you starting those two together? I don't know how that looks right um but yeah i think they're they're at least considering that idea are we thinking anybody's going to take a look at what miami did and just really like shut people down for not shut them down but like people just don't play as much of the regular season and just like everything is focused on peaking in the playoffs

I mean I think we've been trending that way for a while but I do think like teams they might have to look themselves in the mirror and be honest like do we have an Eric Spolstra do we have a Jimmy Butler I don't know if we have those things that will just kind of peak at the right time and like even if they do

kind of take their foot off the gas during the regular season, the shooting that they had during the playoffs was totally not who they were all season long. And I don't know how you can just kind of turn that on after months. I think it was one of the most insane, hottest shooting performances, overachieving performances I've seen from a team in a while.

I think that factors in, but I do think teams are a lot more like March basketball doesn't mean as much anymore because there's just so many floopy situations going on. It matters as soon as mid-April comes around and we can flip that switch.

You just got to start trying to make them in the postseason. Yeah. I think is the lesson from the Heat. They really seem to just be really focused on making their shots. Yeah. Jimmy Butler just looked in the mirror

and said, you know what? I'm going to start making more shots. Yes. That's what I'm going to do. He needed to do that in the finals too if he'd have done that. It might have carried. They took the mirrors out of his hotel room.

That was a problem. Oh, man. No way to pump them. I also heard Celtics fans talking about how CP3 makes sense there. I've heard, yeah. Everybody is just like, yeah, come on. We'll give it a shot. We'll give them a run.

But yeah, I do feel like he's not this sort of person who's just going to take time off and come in and be a solid sixth man in the playoffs. Right? Yeah. That's one thing the Suns had to fight him on for quite a bit,

trying to get him to take rest, and he just is not the guy that'll do that. I have a hard time seeing it elsewhere unless he's threatened with a career-ending injury or something like that. Yeah, because we're saying it would have to take a serious change of his like drive and sense of character for him to suddenly be like,

you know what? I hear what you're saying about my body and like what my limits are. And I'm going to listen to you. And you know what? That is a good idea that I come off the bench. Like that's, this is not who he is. Yeah.

And he, he wrote about it in that new book that he's been promoting recently. Like his grandfather's influence. He grew up the hardest worker since he was a kid at his grandfather's gas station. That's just embedded in his DNA. And especially now that he's older, he's always taken the approach of like, I'm blessed to be here and I'm going to continue to be the hardest working guy in the gym because I don't know how much longer I've got. guy in the gym because I don't know how much longer I've got. Ironically, that's the kind of mentality that during the regular season might come back to hurt him come playoff time when his body just gives out.

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any black holes. Most of the time. black holes most of the time and we're back and a lot of a lot of smoke around Dame as there tends to be in the off seasons people are like just get this man to a contender

we want to see it but the Blazers are reportedly still looking to add talent to put around dame with the you know trading the third pick in the draft away chris manix mentioned the raptors as a potential trade suitor with either uh pascal siakam or uh og and obi in the discussion if the third pick is actually in play but that seems to be contentious right like that oh sure all of these are these are all rumors oh no but no in the sense of like because at oneious right like oh sure all of these are these are all rumors oh no but no in the sense of like because at one it's like i feel like it's back and forth it's

like yeah man the third pick is in play and then it's like just talk to dame's camp absolutely i don't know what they're talking about and you don't know like are they going to keep it it's going away but yeah i think it's wild too to see like how there's interest in bam out of bio from the blazers, but then the heater like, yeah, but we, we would,

we would take Dame and they're like, no, but we would like to pair them together here in Portland. And you're like, well, I'm huh. Who's talking to who right now? Yeah.

It feels like here's what I think is happening. I think Dame is putting additional pressure on the Blazers to do something with that third pick because he knows that his time as, as a top-level star in this league is not guaranteed forever. He's been tired of playing on losing teams for quite a while now. And the Blazers are saying,

yeah, we're definitely looking at moving this third pick for this guy, this guy, this guy. And if they can't make any of those things happen, they're going to be like, well, man, we tried. But at least we got Scoot Henderson or Brandon Miller. We did everything that we could. I just don't feel like maybe this is the final turning

point where Dame is finally like, okay, I don't want to be here anymore, but until he does that, the Blazers are just going to continue to use his loyalty to their advantage. I just don't know how anybody believes in that front office that they can put a winner around him before his time there is done.

I respect Dame, the crap out of him, for his loyalty there, but man, every comment, it feels like he's saying, yeah, I want to win. I want talent around me. Please put talent around me. And they just don't do it. Do whatever you have to. Yeah, yeah. More on that later, Dame. More on that later. Love that guy.

Anyways. He's great, great huh give it up for dame all right get out of here we love him don't we folks uh young scrap um kuzma declined the final year option on his deal and will become an unrestricted free agent um and he's coming off a year where i i think i probably wasn't as aware as I should have been of like what he was doing, but he averaged 21 points over seven boards, almost four assists on right around 45% from the floor. Really like in the conversation for all-star this season. And it'll be interesting to see where, where he ends up.

I know, I know the Lakers are mentioned in this analysis by Jabari. So I don't, I don't know if that's, he's like, so I don't know, maybe he comes, comes back home. Yeah.

Is he going to come for a minimum or is it that he sees deal leave? And he's like, that's a max slot open. Yeah. You know, probably the latter. It's a good question. Cause like he's,

he, that $13 million player option is more than what the mid level is worth this year. So it has to be a team that could offer more than the mid-level or like additional years. And he really just wants to get out of DC. I don't know, but,

um, that is, he's set himself up nicely for a payday with the season he had for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Do we see him in like a, I feel like when we were just talking off micro, like it has to be like a bigger market team.

Like that's where it feels. That feels like the most coups uh like just his style because you can't you can't walk into the arena with like brooklyn yeah you can't wear like eight foot knit with sweater sleeves and be like walking into like utah or something like that no nope yeah nope absolutely not yeah so i guess that leaves it to a handful of places in that sense and that that is absolute rock solid analysis from us just judging by his fits sleeve length yeah yeah yeah sleeve length he's got to be in la new york miami chicago miami for sure yeah um he's got real miami vibes uh james harden miami sleeps james harden is now being rumored to be headed back to philly uh earlier this month it was houston i don't know he'll be 34 next season i think i think the thing

that makes most sense to me as a philly fan is like just really big payday for the next two seasons if if that's something they can pull off because he had a great season last season and you know obviously inconsistent in the playoffs, but some of his best playoff performances, if not his best playoff performances of all time. So you're hoping you can kind of get something similar next season, get a better, healthier Embiid postseason, and with additional coaching, you...

I don't know. This is me tailing off. I was going to say, Jack, you, I don't know. This is me tailing off. I was going to say, Jack, you're enthusiastic. This is me tailing off. Even though we're like, I don't know,

James Harden, I guess he's rumored to come back to Philly. You're like, that's your team. That is my team. I guess. Yeah. Something like that.

And when you're disassociating, talking about your own team, you know, it's not a great, great situation. Oh, it's been like this for a while. If they,

if they throw like a four year deal at him, that would be i think that would be hard that would be and i i feel like you probably have to try and explore what you can get in a sign and trade i just don't know what like in houston i don't know what you're getting from them that's really helping you with him being right now yeah um so yeah i think if you can, to a two-year deal, because like you said, we know the playoff inconsistency, that's just going to be a thing with Harden. You hope that you can put him next to Embiid

and more talent, and that makes up for it. The two games where he played great in the Celtics series, those were wins, and then the rest of them were all losses. So it's one of those things where if you get two fantastic games

out of Harden against a team like that, you hope that the rest of the talent can carry it. But I'm an ASU guy. I went to ASU, so I love Harden. So I will defend him or at least overlook his flaws to the death. Yeah, yeah.

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gerald borge you have wandered into the fastest question and answer segment in all sports podcasting history i would say for concepts to be conceived at a future date we can say with confidence this is the fastest q a segment in all of nba podcasting that is on the iheart we're lobbying for like a little plaque in the hall of fame uh doesn't need to be big doesn't need to be impressive mad boosties award you know like right next to the larry o'brien trophy we'll try we'll talk we'll talk with adam when we're at nba con later on yeah uh but anyway here we go this is going to be the rapid fire round of questioning we're just going to ask you a question gerald you just don't even think.

Just respond. Let your subconscious react immediately. Don't give long-winded answers because this is so fast. If it goes on too long, they will take away our title. So it's on you to keep this going. It's not on us. As most people would say as hosts, it's probably on you. No, we're lazy.

Okay. I'm going to actually take a quick nap here real quick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Power nap. Good idea. Me too, actually. Me too. Gerald, keep're lazy. I'm going to actually take a quick nap here. Real quick. Yeah, yeah. Power nap. Good idea. Me too, actually. Me too. Gerald, keep explaining the segment to the other people. Alright, you want to go first, Miles? You want me to go first?

I'll go first. Okay. And you know what that means. Brian, start the clock! Gerald, is there a single NBA player you would take right now over the chance of taking Wemby with the first pick this summer? Anybody.

Jokic. Wow. I was waiting for Jokic. Yeah. I think you're the first Jokic, but it makes sense to me. Everybody would say Giannis, and then there was Giannis for a stretch, and then it was like, no, nobody. Only Wemby.

Only Wemby. And now we've we've landed after the parade celebrations and we're like oh yeah yeah how much did his parade performance play into you yeah it was a factor for sure it has yeah he just seemed like he was having a blast and also it seemed like he had just consumed his first alcoholic beverage of all time so that that speaks well for you know the sort of shape that his focus that he's, he's keeping on. Oh yeah.

Clean liver. Clean. Yeah. Clean. All right. We're talking teams. We want to cover in the off season, obviously the Spurs.

What's the team you're thinking is going to be interesting in the off season. We've got, okay. See the magic, the sons. We just had a feeling about you guys. The Rockets, Portland. Who else are we missing?

Who we should be keeping an eye on? Other than Suns and Blazers, I'm definitely keeping my eye on the Pelicans. Because the whole Zion thing is pretty wild right now. Yeah. Yeah. How real is that? Do we think they're actually looking at deals to move him? I don't know i wasn't i wasn't

putting too much stock in it but then like it feels like the commissioner put the call in to have that one twitter account suspended that was just raging against him all yeah yeah day long so i don't know i i think there might be something to it especially because he can't stay healthy yeah okay him and lamello like that that would be pretty interesting that would be really fun be something to it, especially because he can't stay healthy. Yeah. Him and LaMelo, that would be pretty interesting. That would be really fun. That would immediately make them a team I would want to watch. Gerald, you have to cut

Jack off, man. Couldn't you just tell? He hijacked the whole segment, man. He's about to put this thing at risk. Moving on. Gerald, you can place any former Suns great on next year's roster. You can hop in the Stargate because you can go anywhere and bring them right back with you.

Which former great are you adding to this mix? Charles Barkley. You need some rebounding. You need some size. You need a guy that's just going to be physical and bruise. Sean Marion was my next answer, though. Why not both?

Yeah. Well, Jack, the question was only one. Wait, now are you sabotaging the segment, man? No, no, no. Sorry, I did fall asleep a little bit. Sorry, I'm getting paranoid, man. Sorry. What are your top three basketball movies?

Oh, man. That's a tough one. Coach Carter, Space Jam jam and white man can't jump white man can't jump is number one the new one obviously yeah we don't even have to talk about the new one yeah the new one the remake yeah i haven't seen i guess the old one that everyone talked i saw the

new one i really like that one oh the original is a classic oh is it i heard uh rosie perez is in that she is yeah i i like her work what do you like her work as a fly girl one of the great basketball performances by someone who has never picked up a basketball before filming started from wesley snipes oh yeah yeah that's acting baby that is real acting like just an amazing on camera just yeah technician with his body and 100 yeah but sometimes the dribble is over his head but he's doing cool things with a little too hard yeah but look yeah he's evading

those defenders like he evades the irs you know what i mean uh okay next question gerald lolo's fried chicken popular in the phoenix area or gus's which is new to the Phoenix area. Oh, man, you're going to make me choose between two of my favorites. Yeah. That's rough. Okay, if you're going to the OG's Lolo's downtown, that location, that one's still the best. Okay. But the new ones that they put in Scottsdale, not as good.

So I've got to go Gus's. Oh, so there's a better variety of Gus's than there are Lolo's, That's what you're saying. Okay. Okay. Okay. Good to know.

Good to know. All right. We were looking at betting favorites to land notable players in the offseason. It's like these are the top teams expected to land these players if they don't stay with their current team. I'm just going to read through. You're going to tell me the one that you think is most likely to happen. LeBron James Mavericks, Damian Lillard,

heat, James Harden, rockets, Kyrie Lakers, Westbrook, the Knicks, Draymond, the jazz,

for some reason, Trey Young, the Lakers, Fred Van Vliet, the sons. This might be outdated. Chris Middleton, the thunderliet, the Suns, this might be outdated. Chris Middleton, the Thunder,

Lopez, the Rockets, Dylan Brooks, the Heat. Or DeAndre Ayton, the Mavericks. Which of those are you liking? I think just by default, I'm going to go hard into the Rockets. I feel like that one might have some legitimate heat to it.

Yeah. You think he's going to hear this podcast I feel like that one might have some legitimate heat to it. Yeah. But yeah, those, you think he's going to hear this podcast and be disappointed in my lack of enthusiasm for him coming back to the Sixers. I think that's exactly what it is. Yeah. Wait,

but you didn't mention Dylan Brooks to the heat. I mean, I honestly have no idea where Dylan Brooks is going to sign and how much he's going to sign for it. Cause it feels like his value is rock bottom, but he's also one of those guys that they're going to be like, but he could work for us. Yeah, right.

We can rebuild him. It's fine. And then the final question. This is the most important one. Gerald, Jack or Miles? Jack or Miles? I'm going to go Miles. It's been touch and go the last couple of weeks.

We've had some real diplomatic answers. Some people were saying Jack. I needed that. The diplomatic answer. Some people are saying Jack. No, I meant the diplomatic one was when people thread the needle and go both yeah oh both man i can't choose between the real choice i like giving new definition of that oh man okay gerald good to know thank you so much i mean i really appreciate that from the

bottom of my heart well are you still picking him after he said good to know instead of like thank you he just said good to know that's like real dismissive like i already burned myself with molly morrison when i pretended to be a grizzlies fan that was that was bad remember that one that was desperate i did i've done i've done some things gerald i've not been proud of to get somebody to say my name that's why i kept it neutral and i'm glad you did the right thing so good to know is like a little bit like, wow, you're really into me, huh? Yeah. Oh, I mean, conceited?

Oh, cool. Good to know, man. Thanks. Oh, good to know. Cool. Wow. Well, that's really nice. Oh, my God.

Oh, man. Really good to know. Gerald Borge, man. Thank you so much for joining us on Miles and Jack Got Mad Boosties. Where can people find you, follow you, read know just just get just get behind the move yeah so if you're interested in sun's writing the deandre ayton trades like i mentioned all my stuff is on gophx.com you can follow me on twitter at gerald borgay or you can listen to our podcast go five times a week talking all things suns wow h and x suns podcast you can get it wherever you get your podcasts or watch us on YouTube because we do live shows from our studio here.

It's a beautiful studio. We do daily podcasts and that's too many podcasts. It's a lot. Just letting you know. Yeah. We were doing 10 a week. I know. Outside of this one at one point.

Yeah. It's wild to hear somebody else who does daily podcasting as people who also daily podcast. Whoa. Whoa, man. That's what you do. Yeah. Amazing. We do want to give a shout out to our boosties listener of the week for the most recent show review. Just first of all, please rate and review.

I get called out, especially if you give us a glorious one like this one. Finally, a sports podcast for everyone. Been a fan of Jack since the crack days and Miles since day one of TDZ. Great to have them both reignite my love for basketball and that is Giannis Antetokounmpo.

No, it's not. It's in Greek. It is written in Greek. So I have to assume I don't speak Greek or know the characters, so i have to assume i don't speak greek or know the characters but i have to assume that this is yannis and if we see a re-emergence as yannis being the top player in the league you can thank miles and jack i'm at boost i did a quick uh greek translation and it's christodoulou uh-huh and i don't know if i don't know if y'all are trolling me with that but i just put the google glass that, and that's what it told me it was. So shout out to you, and shout out to all our listeners.

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