The Daily Zeitgeist - Mo’ Biden Mo’ Vampires? Trump World Shooketh? 08.19.22

Episode Date: August 19, 2022

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Starting point is 00:02:01 Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 250 episode 5 of their daily zeitgeist a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and it's friday august 19th 2022 which of course means that it is central and western quebec day because uh that's who's got the 819 area code or a national jack potato day hey okay national aviation day national soft ice cream day all right i mean i feel like the national days have been pretty on point for the time of year. But yeah, and a lot of especially like soft ice cream just when it's all melty. This is when that is hitting at its hardest. You big soft serve guy.
Starting point is 00:02:57 You like soft? I love soft serve. Oh, soft ice cream. Got it. Like I mean, they mean soft serve. Got it. I do. I went to a basketball camp like three weeks out of every summer, and they had a soft serve machine there,
Starting point is 00:03:10 and I got nice with the soft serve technique. I could stack that thing eight, nine rings in the sky. It was pretty impressive. I got to say, though, we might want to rethink when when we're doing national potato day this is not when i'm in the mood for like a nice steaming baked potato august 19th maybe when do you feel like when is your what was peak potato desire like right or like nove. I'm feeling November. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Okay. All right. Hey, look, celebrate however you like to. That's true. I don't want to yuck anyone else's, you know, yum. They're out here just eating a hot baked potato like an apple on the street in the middle of August. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. I Gotta Stay Zai-ai-ai-ai-ai-ai-ai-ai-ai-ai
Starting point is 00:04:09 till I got a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-iced. That is courtesy of Bohemian Rhapsody on a tear. Mm-hmm. And 3-6 Mafia. That song's not called Stay High. I think it's called Stay Fly,
Starting point is 00:04:22 at least on Apple Music, which was a surprise to this elder millennial. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. It's Mr. Miles Gray. He's on TikTok, always looking at Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, Lambo, There you go. So they collaborated on that. Well, first Johnny Davis said, what about Lambo, Lambo, Lam, Lam, Lam, Lam, Lambo? Bill was posited, would Lambo,
Starting point is 00:05:14 Bo, Bo, Bo, Bo not flow better, my good man? To which Johnny replied, yes. There it is. It's hard to co-write a song that has one word, but they just proved that it can be done. So that's what we're all about here at the Zeitgeist. Just coming together, working hard on small results.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Yep. Small victories. That's right. They're plentiful. Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined by a very funny comedian, activist, the host of the great award-winning podcast good muslim bad muslim senior fellow on comedy at the pop culture club she's written in the new york times uh wrote and performed a piece on fresh air with oh yes terry gross yes uh it is the hilarious the talented talented Zara Norbach! Zara! What up? Welcome.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Guess what? Guess what? Guess what? What? You can add another tag to my name because I am now employed. Oh, we're at it. I'm a producer at Snap Judgment, y'all. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Okay. Welcome, welcome, welcome. What, what, what, what, what, what? Congrats. Oh shit Okay Welcome Welcome Welcome Congrats I was just gonna be like The hilarious The talented The employed Zara
Starting point is 00:06:31 No But no That's a great That's a great credit Congratulations Amazing I have a 401k Congratulations to them
Starting point is 00:06:40 On making a Smart decision Yeah That's what I said too The day The first day You're welcome. When you got the offer. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:06:50 We'd love to offer you the job. You're welcome. I know you would. You're actually really welcome. Yeah. I will take it, but you're welcome. What I actually said was, I am here for the small results. There you go. I will work so hard to get you one word results.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Let's string them together. Amazing. So that's big news. But some things haven't changed. You still got a Jaws poster behind you. So you're keeping it. It's the best movie of all time. It is.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Stay true. Stay true. You know. I quote it like three times a day. What are your quotes? What are your go-to? We're going to need a bigger job for me when they hired you. That was my boy.
Starting point is 00:07:35 You have to deliver that after slapping an authority figure across the face. Right. Your first day at work. I just do impressions of the shark yeah also shout out to uh tom ryman from from cracked and now start the machine on twitter he he got me quoting why the guy in the background he's like it's a tiger shark
Starting point is 00:08:05 I think is the part the guy in the background comes through what? there's like just some great ADR and background performer performances I've seen it so many times I know exactly the sound
Starting point is 00:08:20 that you're talking about it's like right before Steven Spielberg walks through the film yeah that you're talking about. It's like right before Steven Spielberg walks through the film. Yeah, that's right. It's right around there. That film is about intersectional feminism. Go on.
Starting point is 00:08:33 I mean, and that's what today's episode is about. Why Jaws is about intersectional feminism. Why Matt Gaetz is in cahoots with Epstein lawyers. Oh, that's right. That's what this is about. All right, Zara, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things. This episode's really about, we're going to just sit back, observe, survey just what the people in Trump world, how they're acting.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Because that's kind of our best indicator as to what they got what what where where they're at how nervous are they yeah they seem nervous donald trump jr i don't know if i would say he seems nervous he seems uh smacked he seems off of his axle he's fine he's fine he's the first human to take flight without any kind of engine at all. You'll see why or hear why. We're going to talk about some implications of like there's a so there's a New York Times piece that was just like, what was thing like a like a King Ralph like type of thing where Trump is just like a dang loon who just like doesn't doesn't like all the stiff collared regulations. And it doesn't mention like any of doesn't mention Saudi Arabia once. So I want to mention Saudi Arabia once, maybe twice with regards to what he might have been doing with nuclear secrets. We're going to check the Biden presidency against the vampire zombie meter.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Supposedly, when there's a Democratic president, you get more vampires, you get more vamps. And there's the Netflix charts have a new vampire movie at the top, Day Shift, which I've seen enough clips and bloopers of that to feel like I've seen the film. But the violence looks intense. Is it good? It's fabulous. see that so that's that that's in keeping with the theory we'll explain the theory a little bit all of that plenty more but first zara we like to ask our guest what is something from your search history okay so i learned that puss you know the ooze oh yeah yeah that comes out whenever you're doing something gross. Or of a wound. Yeah, you know, like bursting it, bubbling it. Oh, are you a pimple popper over here?
Starting point is 00:11:16 I'm not admitting to anything. Okay, the language you're using, my honor. I'm sensing some ingrained shame in there. Like when you're doing that and like dark and you know that i don't experience shame i inflict it there you go there you're like look at this disgusting white head i gotta pop on your back look at you you nest i don't know how anybody loves you give me that get it over here no how anybody loves you. Give me that. Get it over here. I don't know how anybody loves you. Get over here.
Starting point is 00:11:49 How did you get that sound bite from my bedroom? Because I live in the exact same reality. People are learning a lot. Oh, yeah. I feel like so many people. I had this. Okay, go on with your thing. But I think we're talking about something.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Go on. Okay, I had to look up. I think we're talking about something else. Your book is gone. Okay, I had to look up. I didn't know puss is one S. Oh, yeah. That does make sense. I didn't realize I didn't know how to spell it until a Google doc told me, you don't know how to spell this. So you were going around texting people about puss?
Starting point is 00:12:20 Puss? Yeah, puss in boots. Wow. When I was talking about puss. Oh my god. No wonder why it's so hard for me to make puss friends. When did you come across your fatal error
Starting point is 00:12:38 of misspelling puss? I was about to correct a student in one of my comedy workshops. I was about to just fix their in one of my comedy workshops i was about to just like fix their typo and add an s and google was like no you're the idiot idiot yeah and i was like oh we got real antonio banderas fan over here well puss in boots wasn't he puss in boots yeah popping the puss in boots are you a big pimple popper though that's my next thing okay i'm a big picker big picker okay i can't leave things alone i can't i just like right why why why why then like scabs yeah pimples yeahicles. I can't, I just can't leave it alone.
Starting point is 00:13:25 An American picker. I see. Sorry, someone's at my door. I got to, I'm the only one home. So give me one second. I apologize. Oh, I thought that was a bit for a second. We did it. It was too, we went too far.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Someone's at my door. It's the pick police. But Dr. Pimple Popper grosses me out, man. Oh, wait, really? I should pause. It's so gross. It grosses you out? It grosses me out man oh wait really i should pause it's so gross it grosses you out it grosses me out that's so funny right because her majesty my partner my wife she's she'll be
Starting point is 00:13:52 like oh you got an ingrown hair on the back of your head bring your bring your scalp over here and then be like oh yeah that was a good one no yeah i'll do that i'll watch i'll watch dr pimple popper man i'm old school i was on reddit on r popping okay that's the one of the oldest popping communities out there and for the life of her she's like i can't this shit is disgusting she's like it's one thing when i'm like it's a thing for me to play with it's not like i'm really into it for like the ooze or whatever but i don't want to see somebody with like a softball size like growth that has to be then you know poppethed if that is the medical oh oh i can't watch it it's so gross i get it yeah yeah no it's weird there's something like if i see it yeah if i see it i'm like all over it but
Starting point is 00:14:41 like my my husband's just like you like he's like ew gross in real life but he'll he watches the shit out of it right i mean he's a doctor he's a doctor too yeah he doesn't he's a doctor he's not phased by much you know yeah right i like how you're like hold on let me take a picture of this okay look at your own pimple should you worry about that okay i'm gonna pop it then he came home the other night and he was like oh my god so many bits of brain and bone and then just like yeah and then just like went into the bathroom and changed and came back and was like what's for dinner i'm telling you man it's the like other gear that health workers have is truly astonishing like like the way they're built like i have friends who are in
Starting point is 00:15:26 like nursing or doctors whatever friend who like was not like a trauma nurse and stuff how casually things are described to me yeah and then very quickly like okay so you want to go uh i got tickets for a jurassic park and imax you want to go you just talked about a horrific nail gun accident and you completely okay yep sorry jack you just came back yeah what i missed so while you were at your door we started talking about dr pimple popper she can't stand dr pimple popper loves to pop a pimple though and then she talked about how her husband's a doctor can say see really horrific things work, kind of grossed out by pimples, but then can like pivot on a dime to like very pleasant talk. And I said the extra gear that health care workers have to be able to like deal with really fucked up shit or just harrowing situations.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Come home, like shower it off and then be like, let's watch Nathan for you. Miles is the recap master. Yeah, that's what I do. Beautiful. Yeah. Well, I'm sorry I missed that. Any thoughts on that, though? Pimple popper, doctors having that two-way mind?
Starting point is 00:16:35 None at all. No, I would know nothing about that. Either of those things at all. Double standard of empathy. Nothing. Nothing. There is none czar what is something you think is overrated switch it up your lawn your grass get rid of it oh my god why is it still everywhere my car my my car why did i say my car? The other most American thing.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Well, it's just making me sad that I said that because I really just meant my desk. That means that I feel like I'm in a moving vehicle behind the screen. And you do have one of those little Fisher-Price steering wheel things. And you've been going beep beep every time you want to start talking. You love my Fisher-Price steering wheel things and you've been hitting the going beep beep every time you want to start talking so you love my fisher price steering wheel jack you've had the turn signal on the entire recording though so i would ask that you anyways get rid of your lawn fools what the hell it's 125 degrees in some places yeah people are mowing dead yellow grass just kicking up dust yeah what are you doing just go to nice drought proof plants if you like the plants in the front the lawn shit i mean this is there's just like an article about how like how the in like northern mexico like there's really really severe water rationing happening to combat drought but meanwhile just
Starting point is 00:18:14 over the border like in laredo texas they're using like there's something like 10 million gallons a day or something on fucking like like lawns and stuff and i'm sure like la every drought area that has lawns has some absurd number they're wasting just purely on watering grass but it it feels like one of the easiest i mean like i get that there's so many things that we obviously need to lean on like changing our energy mix and much bigger ideas and things like that to save the planet but i like the more i look at i'm like I don't need to see fucking grass all the fucking time. Like in a place that's a desert. There are succulents that look like grass.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Yeah. You don't need to do this. And also the causes of some wildfires have been lawnmowers on dead dry grass that shoot sparks and catch fire. They're like, what are you doing? I put my friction machine over this fuel pile in high winds. I don't understand what happened. Wildfires are job creators, Zara.
Starting point is 00:19:18 That's what you have to understand. Yeah, for prison labor. You sound like a warden right now it's actually a really great employment opportunity for our chattel slate uh prison uh uh teammates no i get it i've been hired for arson and i've done it but hired for my heart was not in it it not. Yeah. That's why it warms my heart to see the golf courses where activists have been filling up the holes with cement. Oh, that's amazing. Although I will say, just turn up the green. Don't fill up the holes with cement because the hole, like they move the hole every day.
Starting point is 00:19:59 So you can just like, that's easy for them to, yeah, they can just poke that shit out. But love the effort. and the symbolism is great it's just like that's probably didn't fuck with them too bad but no because they're so precious about their little grass their little fairway grass they got the little things that like comb it and like print it after you hit the ball off of the grass they're like it's gotta be smooth right like what was what's the movie where they're like tunneling out of prison and they're like taking the dirt with them out into the yard right uh the great escape oh yeah well yeah he he's like uh letting the dirt loose through his pant leg oh yeah yeah yeah and then they lampoon that in naked gun too
Starting point is 00:20:44 when they're trying to escape. And he's just, like, sitting on a fucking mountain. I'm like, could you do a similar thing, but with, like, Grass Killer on a fucking golf course? Like, you just wear big pants. You're like, four! And then, like, a bunch of shit's coming out the bottom of that guy's pants.
Starting point is 00:20:57 It's spelling, fuck you, and eat the rich on the fairway. Are we still shitting on lawns? Yeah, yeah, yeahs yeah yeah yeah oh good we had to we had to take a sharp right turn into the gulf the country club real quick speaking of grass listen now now that i'm employed there are all these freelance jobs i have to say no to and that's where these are coming from and this is coming from like 10, 15 years into your future for the rest of America, because I was back east and everything's green back there just by accident. Like there's grass growing places like because what else is going to happen?
Starting point is 00:21:39 Of course, grass is going to grow there. But yeah, we are we're the the drought that's coming for all of us and the only things that are green are golf courses and like a handful of and huge like agribusiness right there's like 25 states that don't need grass yeah yeah exactly in this union never had like i look i love a field for like sport but you know the turf is getting pretty good you know yeah true this is also because outside my window while i'm trying to podcast there's these huge john deers over this like 10 by 10 patch it doesn't make any sense and there's so much diesel donuts essentially there's so much diesel they are they do donuts they're having a blast i feel for these guys i get it it's a good time but it sucks and so that's where my underrated comes in which is what yeah what is your under it. These are dark chocolate almonds.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Uh-huh. Hold on. Yeah. I like how you got, yo, we gotta get off the fucking lawn business, too. One of the most water-intensive products in the fucking state. The actual, one of the biggest reasons that California's experiencing drought is because of the fucking almond industry.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Now, almonds aren't water-intensive enough. We gotta add cocoa beans. That's what I'm saying. Fuck the lawn so I can have more of these chocolate covered almonds at a reduced fucking price. This brings me to my underrated mention which is hypocrisy. It's really the cure for heart disease
Starting point is 00:23:20 in this nation. Try it out. Give it a shot folks. It will keep you alive so long. Wait, but let me see those almonds again. They're good? Yeah. Each one, I just taste gallons of water
Starting point is 00:23:34 in the chocolate goodness. You're like, with each almond, that's one less child 30 years from now that will know the feeling of grass under their bare feet know what a shower is do you ever think about that like those are like these are really weird small details that is gonna go missing from from kids like honestly grass right like i'm out here really thinking looking at my own shit i'm
Starting point is 00:24:05 like what the fucking grass necessary oh my god we already live in the era where most people don't know what i mean by a real university experience right or like what it's like to have campus life right you know and like there's so many things like you don't think about like 50 years from now or something with the water shortages and stuff. You think immediate, like pools, sprinklers, water bottles. And you don't think like, oh, yeah, we might not be able to produce almonds anymore because it's just so water intensive. Right. Or we do because they have an outsized influence in the state legislature and they're like i'm sorry man if only you guys had more lobbyists right it's like when you it's like when you look at like corn politics and then it's like oh yeah that's my batteries and my advil and like my windowsill you know like you know that astroturf you use on your lawn is actually made from recycled almonds. They just make too many almonds.
Starting point is 00:25:06 So they've turned it into... It's an almond-based AstroTurf. It's regenerative. Let me tell you about this little heart salve that I call hypocrisy. Folks, get on board. You gotta sip from it every now and then. You simply must. Well, see, because when you get drunk off it, that's when it's problems.
Starting point is 00:25:28 But every now and then it's like just a quick little taste. I knew you'd get it. Yeah. Shout out Blue Diamond Almonds, inaugural sponsor of the podcast. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. the podcast. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series,
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Starting point is 00:30:38 get away with shit like a common rich guy like since but even before office he was just like i could do i'll move with impunity i don't give a fuck or like a malignant narcissist yeah and he was mostly kind of like i'll like i'll commit these like financial crimes that like it's it's kind of a hard it's not it's not fun for everybody it doesn't quite arise to these other crimes like assault or something i've been accused of but he just i just can help, but feel something is different and not in the sense that I'm like, we're going to finally see justice, but at best and sadly, this is the most he has ever seemed like he felt like he might face the music
Starting point is 00:31:16 is what it kind of is what it feels like. And I think the super optimistic take, which are the view is what you see, like on a lot of news channels where they're like, Trump's going down. Like they look at everything and be like this. Trump knows he had the worst shit in there and the FBI has it count down to indictment. Right. Which is which is possible. That's feasible based on like what they're saying and the you know how severe they're saying the the potential charges are and then another view is like i don't know man i think trump is just so used to getting away with shit that having the fbi raid his house is more like offensive to his like sensibilities
Starting point is 00:31:55 than inducing genuine like existential panic like it's like a karen freaking out after being told like she can't cut the line even though i'm late for my bible study group kind of shit where it's like you're not gonna tell me this suddenly i'm used to doing whatever the fuck i want so i'm trying to figure out it's like half real dread half just like but i'm white right you can't fucking do this to me like don't you also like have a little ah whenever there's like some semblance of checks and balances left in this country. Like I found myself being like, doesn't this. Didn't he like appoint most of the FBI?
Starting point is 00:32:32 Like, didn't he flesh out? The director was a Trump appointee confirmed by Republicans. Yeah. I was like, didn't didn't the Trump administration go through like most executive offices and make them all trump goons anyway yeah or goon adjacent for sure you know it's but yeah it's 100 the case goon adjacent was one of my freelance jobs where you were and i've been hired to do arson because i'm doing it my heart wasn't in it that does feel like what like those sorts of things like him appointing somebody who could get approved by the Republicans during his first term and like are all things he's like never again. Like this is all stuff that is going to drive the wildest like, you know, just dissent into authoritarianism if he is elected like that
Starting point is 00:33:27 yeah because again like this the the gop just doubles down and doubles down like again i was liking it's like you're reducing a sauce in a like a pan that you're cooking and it starts off watery but you're like no cook that shit down to the goo the racist fascist goo that's really down to ride so it gets smaller but it's thicker right it's way more potent because you're cooking off the weaklings or you're purging that and then but then they keep turning the heat up my bro the pan is going to dry out and you're eventually going to burn the fucking kitchen down yeah it's just like a mineral basin of titanium dioxide at the bottom. Right, exactly. You look in there like, what's that smoldering pot? You're like, that's the fascists.
Starting point is 00:34:09 They're just doing their thing over there. But I think it's probably a mix of the two. But again, it is very clear. The only reason I kind of just keep watching this is because typically, like we've said this before, they just say fake news. It's bullshit. Right. typically like we've said this before they just say fake news it's bullshit right but the the the word choice the sort of sentiment the emotion is a lot more like you know intense now so for starters right no lawyers want to work with him they're they're talking about like tax law like people who are not like at the top of their game. And we've seen who he has as his lawyers right now.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Like one of them was like a fucking commentator from Newsmax. Like these aren't like the kinds of like goons that you get. And it's probably because, A, he is a guy who everyone knows that isn't the best at paying back legal costs. Also doesn't really like listen to fucking legal advice ever so i don't know if anyone worth their shit is gonna be like yeah i want to yeah i'll represent you in the u.s versus donald trump on espionage act charges if it gets there like what so that's one aspect there's he's having trouble although he says it's all fake news he has the best people but we've seen the clowns that show up for him he's posting op-eds like on truth like retweeting or retruthing shit that's basically that's the gist of it is like the reprisals for the mar-a-lago
Starting point is 00:35:36 raid will be epic in 2025 if donald trump isn't was president again so reprisal yeah i mean that's a lot for like a yappy talking head that's here to distract us from climate disaster and i may have had i may have edited that for a little bit it does but i mean that is i think this is most potent attack for a couple reasons first of all true he will like if he gets nominated then elected or not even nominated but elected which also a possibility he it will be just a non-stop authoritarian like persecution of his enemies and critics like the the whole time that will just be what what is happening inside the white house but also i also think that like even in the mainstream media you hear people
Starting point is 00:36:30 talk about how like but you can't really like prosecute a president because then it's you know then it's just back and forth through until the end of time so many presidents what is What is so many presidents? What is that? I mean, not so many, but like it's happened. It's not. Right. But that's like so that that is the thing that I feel like they keep falling back on is like that's just. I mean, who knows?
Starting point is 00:36:55 Joe Biden may still have a hand in destroying this country by pardoning Donald Trump if it came down to it. Right. Oh, my God. And then we're like, oh, yeah, it's fully, it's bad. Because there was that one, like, psychologist, Bandy Lee, if you remember
Starting point is 00:37:09 from the very beginning of the Trump administration, she's, like, one of the few people being like, this guy is not fit for office. This is where this shit's going to lead.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Like, he's using all these, like, I've worked with people in prison populations. He's doing the same shit you see prison gang leaders do, getting people riled up, offering protection, saying protection saying hey y'all down for violence then ghosting them and just do and they're very they're very charismatic figures and her whole thing is like the only way you burst that bubble is to actually like have consequences it's the only way the it's
Starting point is 00:37:42 not the opposite it's not well if there's consequences it'll get that it's not the opposite. It's not. Well, if there's consequences, it'll get worse. It's like, no, you have to burst the fucking bubble. And, you know, they're saying, like, for most of the time, people, the way the direction the GOP is headed, it's like this is its own fucking thing. Right. It's like a cult. Yeah. Where everyone should be executed. Like that's coming off the lips of everyone. Like candidates are like, I think Merrick Garland, maybe maybe it might he might be an executor i don't know what on earth is happening i mean to the rest of the world i don't like how does this look like this is so the collapse i mean we're seeing it everywhere and i just i don't understand the centrist like viewpoint on this shit like i have a lot of centrist liberal friends because i'm infiltrating and i just like messing with their game and being that friend and i just like i don't i'm always playing this game with them i feel like i'm just like how do i poke you persistently how do i pop
Starting point is 00:39:00 this pimple right right right how do i dr pimple pop your noise that's just like oh you know the way he talks and the respectability of it all right like the tone and the like this is not how i want my america to look and it's like we simply can't put him in prison because then it'll mean accountability for future presidents i'm sorry like i'm sorry your kid is in the backyard lighting our cars on fire exactly but maybe it has nothing to do with your parental style either where you're like i don't i just don't want to i want to be a friend to this out of control thing it's like the same idiot that says shit like you can't tax businesses then they'll just leave yeah yeah i guess there's
Starting point is 00:39:43 no other way to figure that out yeah it's like because it's very like abuse abuser talk yes it's like victim blamey abuser talk yeah okay if you do that then who's gonna love you right right where are you gonna live fucking anywhere are you kidding me many greedy motherfuckers out there that i'm fucking talking about but anyway so add all to that right the paranoia too in trump world now there's like a few pieces i think it's in the guardian that was writing that multiple aides like eight people spoke under anonymity who i don't know again i don't know if this is this is part of the game of thrones that's happening at mar-a-lago but there people
Starting point is 00:40:21 are starting to suspect that someone in his family is the FBI informant because of like a very specific item the FBI took was like a leather bound box and they're like this couldn't have been a housekeeper or like a random person who does security like in the exterior things like you're having someone so close to even know that like it's his like little precious leather box that he puts his secrets in or some shit so that's another one that is also just kind of a loud talking point that's going around and then at the beginning of the week donald jr i i'm not sure if this was a defense or him fucking blasted and trying to seem like everything's all good like with very out of control laughter which is always
Starting point is 00:41:06 a great sign that someone is very chill i'm not freaking out you are should be noted there isn't a single like sometimes you'll get a clip that has a screen cap where it's like oh they pulled a screen cap to make this person look very stupid there is not a screen cap from this clip where he does not look deranged and like he's on the verge of breaking bursting into tears he his yeah and i get that this is not a visual medium imagine his his face the whole time is he is on the verge of a terrible digestive event and he's trying to hold that back while also projecting like confidence and aggression uh My father says that he would have given them what they wanted had they done this, but no. They needed
Starting point is 00:41:48 the FBI hostage rescue team. The HRT. Their elite tactical unit. And 30-something agents to show up to my father's home. My father's home. That goes on for two and a half minutes.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Yeah. Like nonstop screaming. Barely any breaths. Just there's so much cocaine in my body. The FBI. This is a lot. This is a lot. So he's very chill. Then you have another note on Thursday, the CFO of like the Trump
Starting point is 00:42:27 corporation, the organization's Alan Weisselberg, who many people have been like, man, that when they first got him on charges, they're like, oh man, he'll flip because he doesn't, you know, he doesn't want to go to jail and miss the, you know, the rest of the lives of his family. He's in his like mid to late seventies. He just pleaded guilty. And at first there was nothing about like a cooperation deal. And we're like, oh, wow, maybe this guy really trying to be a G about it. But then it came out right after he pled guilty that part of this plea deal was that he is going to test. He will testify against the Trump companies about some of the fucking weird illegal tax shit that they were
Starting point is 00:43:05 doing. Now, it's just against the companies, not Trump himself. He would not do that. So in a sense, he's still trying to be a fucking gangster about the whole thing. I do not understand why, how that helps him. But the benefit there is that if the companies are found guilty of all that fuckery and wrongdoing, they can be just find out of existence, which typically is the case. So that could be a huge blow to the empire. So that's another thing. Dang.
Starting point is 00:43:32 That's another weight to put on the pile of the Trump world psyche. And then a bit of unpleasantness for, for Trump to deal with down the line. Or could you imagine it's like, Oh my, they could put my business. Yeah. Or just to be fine. So much of the point, It's like, oh my, they could put my business. Yeah, or just to be fined so much to the point
Starting point is 00:43:47 it's like I gotta, I have to fucking sell it. Like there's no way I can navigate this. So on top of it all, right? Wow. All the chaos is allowing for more just opportunistic
Starting point is 00:43:57 bullshit on the right. And it's turning into like a kind of a circular firing squad in the weirdest way. I want to play an ad for you for this guy, Mark Lombardo, who's running against Matt Gaetz and his Republican primary opponent. He just put out an attack ad that is trying to be like, Matt Gaetz is the fucking mole.
Starting point is 00:44:21 This is a Republican attack ad against another Republican all off the heels of this Mar-a-Lago raid. When Donald Trump really endorses someone, he goes big. You've seen none of that for lying Matt Gaetz. What does Trump know? Is Gaetz the informant? Gaetz hired Jeffrey Epstein's attorney. Another Epstein attorney approved the raid on Trump's house.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Remember, Gaetz pressured Trump to give him a pardon, but Trump said no. Matt Gaetz puts himself first, ahead of Trump and ahead of you. Vote for a leader who will- Anyway. This is so weird. So many accusations and insinuations in the span of five seconds there. Well, none of it is about policy whatsoever. It's about Trump loyalty this is bizarre it's exactly you gonna let him do that to the brand also he hired pedophile jeffrey epstein's
Starting point is 00:45:16 attorney why don't you i mean look if you want to go after matt gates he's actually under investigation for trafficking yeah he's a he's a human monster maybe go there but also are y'all forgetting how close jeffrey i've seen donald trump work too that's like what's so wild about this also like the crossed wires around like epstein bad good right on earth so yeah it's it's it's really really just everyone's out here trying to get their piece. Meanwhile, Alex Jones, he's has a very he's he said he's off Trump. He said he's going full DeSantis. And but I would take that with a caveat.
Starting point is 00:45:55 But here is here is Alex Jones from Thursday saying, you know, I'm with DeSantis. I can't believe this man is the nightmare scenario. If Hillary or Biden got in. He said he only voted for Trump. That's before they were officially running. But that said, I am supporting DeSantis. DeSantis is just gone from being awesome to being unbelievably good. And I don't just watch a man's actions, as Christ said, judge a tree by its fruits.
Starting point is 00:46:24 I can also look in his eyes on HD video, and I see the real sincerity. I love that he said, you know, Christ said, judge a tree by its fruits, but I can see in his eyes on HD video. I think again, take that with many full rocks of salt because Alex Jones is a total creature. He has nothing. There's nothing consistent about him. I mean, like he's he goes back and forth. I remember when the vaccine stuff came out, he lost it on Trump because he was saying, like, you know, the vaccine's OK. I'm done with this guy. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:03 But again, I think it's for Alex Jones. He has to kind of be fluid in order to make sure he's always kind of capturing what's going to keep the brand, his own InfoWars brand, like going. The way they talk about each other is like listening to like a WWF, like, yeah, take down because it just like nothing is real like it's all about like power plays and like loyalty and proximity and like no no information about anything yeah it's yeah this all would have looked real fucked up like five years ago and now it's just like yeah yeah no everything is just like in relation to whatever Trump believes and being friends with Trump or. Yeah. Like there's not even like not like a stack the courts, not like a build on what he did.
Starting point is 00:47:52 No evil plans. Just who you hang out with. A Republican primary is attack at is basically Trump likes me more. Fuck that other person. Trump may endorse Matt Gaetz, but he thinks he's kind of a dick. Right. That's autocratic politics.
Starting point is 00:48:11 That's autocracy. That's how, yeah. Cult shit. It's like, okay, get in line. Who's the most loyal? Right. The ones who are not loyal, guess what?
Starting point is 00:48:18 You're out. You're fucking out. And that's how, and we will refine this process until we fucking reduce the pot to the most goopy, gobliny fucks who are willing to say and do anything. And we've they've reduced the first layer. They got all the Republicans who voted to impeach out.
Starting point is 00:48:36 And now we're going down to whatever the fuck this is. Who know, you know, TBD to TBA. Who fucking knows? On top of this, again again on top of all of this there's this guy joe degenova i don't know if you remember him he was part of like the like elite strike force of like best lawyers crew lawyers like led by rudy giuliani and like jenna ellis and like the you know old cracking lady what a team oh yeah yeah yeah he went on newsmax and he's basically saying oh yeah man they're gonna invite they're gonna indict trump but it's all good you know because you can you
Starting point is 00:49:13 can do a lot from jail so did jennifer on newsmax which is the maximum news it is the most news uh this is one of the most abusive attorney generals in history. This process is arrogant, abusive, an affront to the Constitution. They are going to indict Donald Trump. Merrick Garland has lost his senses. But I think you pointed out last week, if they do indict him, crazily enough, I mean, if they're crazy enough to do it, that doesn't render him ineligible to run or even be president. He can listen. Eugene Debs ran for president from a federal prison. There's no reason that that's going to happen to Donald Trump. He's
Starting point is 00:49:56 not going to be in a federal prison, but if he's indicted, he will run for president. There you go. I mean, that is what we are gonna like that feels real right yeah that that feels real and it also is probably like a question that i think a lot of people are asking is like so if he is indicted though he's still gonna run and probably win so oh yeah that's at that point that's like indiana jones looking at that motherfucking stone door closing yeah exactly he's like oh shit i gotta run for the fucking exit yep by running that's a fucking that's another weird motivator for somebody entering office but i didn't know gray kelly was over on uh newsmax i don't know he had dipped over there is that that guy's name
Starting point is 00:50:40 yeah man all right man are they are they about to be no longer a thing, or that was one American news? That's OAN, yeah. OAN. They're in their final death farts of their existence as a quote-unquote network. But yeah, I mean, again, that also has a dual process, right? Joe DiGenova really fanning the flames because we've also seen the tactic from the right, fanning the flames because we've also seen the tactic from the right which is to get the base to understand that like they need to get fucking weird again for him yeah and it feels like by saying he's your dad is gonna go to jail if you don't beat up the cops right you know it's kind
Starting point is 00:51:19 of like oh it's kind of a weird motivating. I can also see which is also a fundraising tactic. So it's so hard to know what they're feeling or doing. But again, to even say like, well, I mean, yeah, I mean, he could run for office even if he's, you know, in prison. Right. So strange. Yeah. Meanwhile, Tucker Carlson is fucking ODing on Copium on his show because I don't know. Look, I don't know. Look, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:51:45 He knows. All I know is he spent most of his time just laughing really weird at Liz Cheney's loss in her primary and then even brings up and for good measure brings up even the Iraq war just to be a full piece of shit. But anyway, here's the first one where you get to hear this really weird copium laugh. Liz Cheney is America's foremost defender of democracy, but democracy spanked her hard last night. Wow. But it didn't decrease her arrogance. She compared herself to Abraham Lincoln. We're going to have a gloat-a-thon. We're just going
Starting point is 00:52:17 to say it out loud. We're going to have a gloat-a-thon over the defeat of liz cheney and we're gonna hell yeah you want to hear it gets worse yeah my face is just frozen in horror but go on i must say i feel sorry for it turns out americans voters are harder to deal with than iraqi civilians you can't just drone them to death you have to obey them oh it's so great this is liz cheney day in my house. Victor Davis Hanson. Great to see you. What? Yo. The band has fantasies. Be chill. Be chill. Everything be chill. He's got fantasies. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:55 I will say the Liz Cheney thing seems to... Yeah. I agree. That's the thing I'd be focusing on if I were them. It seems like he's still very popular despite all this wild shit that's happening. Like it's just going to it seems like it's just moving in opposite directions with like him being to anybody paying attention to facts like more and more shockingly wildly like unelectable or like just like shit shouldn't be allowed to run for office and then with his base it's like more and more they're just like he is our god emperor we will die to to make him powerful again that's part of me part of me thinks the cleanest thing
Starting point is 00:53:44 which isn't really justice is that they get him to the brink and say look motherfucker you will never run for president you shut the fuck up and you don't have to go to jail yeah but he i mean that's i mean that that's how they use him though like it almost feels like the opposite is that like at this point what else can the man do but continuously run for president like right he's incapable of everything else other than being a loud racist terrifying talking head that that scares the left and emboldens the most base horror of america and yeah and to your point, there is the Democrats have their hand in this, too, you know, like they based on how hard they go. And also they have the pretty clear election strategy, as they've done of elevating the MAGA people in primary races because they feel they'll be easier to run against in in the November in the midterms so they've been in that what that's about yeah they've been investing in elevating the most fucking wacky of the wax to to get in those primary races and
Starting point is 00:54:54 then they're being like yeah and then they'll beat them it's like or that'll spectacularly backfire because you're an absolute idiot it will backfire how i don't understand how in this nation where we have our both hands and feet in Middle Eastern playbooks for destabilization, how we then don't massively recognize that when it's happening in this nation and stoke Magites. Like that isn't how you destabilize nations in the Middle East. This is bizarre. i don't understand but i think in a way you watch it unfold and you're like i can't be like is this the the country's karma right you know i mean karma is just cause and effect right yeah or just like this is the echo it comes back but then also, well, you're falling victim to your own tricks, but also have this like your own arrogance as a nation makes you completely unable to grapple with it. Well, that's the baseline of like transformative justice thinking. Right. Is that like it is what goes around comes around.
Starting point is 00:56:00 And when it is something that we do, then it's something that we do. You know what I mean? It's something that becomes practice, has an infrastructure, has like a process that we then, I mean, all habit psychology tells you, hey, this is a bad idea. Don't invest time in something like this, because then that's what you're going to autopilot to in a crisis. And this country right now is exhausted. It's out of work. It is broke. It's people need resources. There are no infrastructures to hold people together in a crisis. People with no other infrastructure are going to believe that they need to choose violence. And like, it just goes back to like, i just like when liz cheney was about to lose i got so many obnoxious texts from the democrats that were like you know thank her
Starting point is 00:56:53 for risking her career to bring down trump and like we need liz cheney and then there was also like movements to get democrats to find ways to vote for her, to support her. And I was like, what are you doing? Right. We're just like, you know, okay,
Starting point is 00:57:11 Republicans now that's our party. Like for the daughter of one of the most vile motherfuckers in American history. And also her, she herself was just a Trump rubber stamp. Right. Yeah. I mean, this is what I mean is like that centrist notion of like she stood up i'm like okay or is this just like or is this born out
Starting point is 00:57:34 of being in a reality where you are the apex predator societally right you know so you're completely unable to conceive of a threat because society has reflected back to you that you're the most potent creature and at any time you can exercise control over your reality unlike the people beneath you which is why i feel like the perspective of more vulnerable people is like what the fuck are y'all oh yeah much more accurate and like a valid or people more in touch you know where there is also a group of people who are so fucking insulated who have had maybe very charmed life where they know not of anything that is a an actual like an abstract threat in the form of something like fascism they might be like oh there's a scary man of color going on a jog maybe that might be like, oh, there's a scary man of color going on a jog. Maybe that might be across the street for that.
Starting point is 00:58:27 But fascism, I don't know. Right. You know, we're we're in the plot of Alien 2. No, I feel like we memory hold the fact that they did this with Trump with the 2016 Republican nomination, where, like, if you listen to keeping keeping it 1600, the precursor to Pod Save America, like they were they were all of this shit to to happen because they just didn't they have not been able to conceive of this threat in a in a realistic way at all right folks this is what happens when you do the villain's vision work stay focused on the resources you want on the infrastructures that you demand don't let the election turn into which villain is more to your liking demand what you want protect what you want yeah yeah exactly the
Starting point is 00:59:33 same just like we were saying yesterday with like what can biden do to like activate the youth vote it's like well he needs to actually propose policies. Yeah. Anything. That acknowledge what the needs are of that articulated group you just identified. Acknowledge any needs by anyone in the last four years. Acknowledge how many years has it been. What more can he do? Two years? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:00:00 What more? Trump's on the back foot. Got the Inflation Reduction Act. The job market's wilder than ever. god what more trumps on the back foot got the inflation reduction act the the job markets wilder than ever it's like have you talked to anybody have you talked to anybody who isn't like in the employer class right at all you know do you do you know and you have any friends who are actually struggling if any friends who are so depressed because of their lack of opportunity and feeling so confused at like what they did wrong
Starting point is 01:00:28 when it's no doing of their own. It's the fucked up place they live in. Do you know anybody like that? Is that a real person to you or is that a character on a TV show? Right? Could you imagine if life was like that? I am a pacifist,
Starting point is 01:00:39 but can we give AOC some nukes? Is that okay? Can we vote for that? Can we make it a proposition? I'd hate to say all that shit just to be classist again, but she has less than $100,000 in assets. She has nothing to lose, so I don't
Starting point is 01:00:58 trust her. Yes! Thank you. I'm glad somebody finally said it. Sorry, Zara. I infiltrated you. Miles, just give her a tank. Oh, yeah, yeah. How about a tank? Hey, tanks for the unhoused all day. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:01:15 Wouldn't that be incredible if we just gave the unhoused folks tanks and then they just, like, rolled over Beverly Hills? Wouldn't that just be mwah? Yeah. Keep it in that 310. Keep it in that 310 area yeah this direction yeah run wild run wild yeah i don't know but this is you know we're at we're at we're like it's an omni crisis wow it's just hard for it's like which one like honestly which one do you want to pick but to your point czar i think it is really important is to like the only way out of it or some some beginning for most people to come to like some sense which is don't just don't go to the shit buffet and be like well these are only two options they have right right fucking burn the fucking place down and be like well fuck this
Starting point is 01:02:01 place i don't like this is what i want or fucking scream outside the place and and be like, I'm not going in there to get what the fuck I want. But we don't have a system of checks and balances anymore. We can't wait for our legislators to hand us people that we like. We're going to have to do that work. Yeah. One with nuts and corn is actually really good. Get back in line. Get back in line.
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Starting point is 01:06:48 And we're back. And there's a new vampire movie at the top of the Netflix charts called Day Shift. It's fabulous. It says it's fabulous. Jamie Foxx is Jamie Foxxing it up in the trailers. Plays a pool cleaner who pivots into vampire hunting and there's even a tie-in music video in which jamie fox and dave franco rap about mowing down vamps okay okay you have my attention sir yes we always at least once a presidential administration I like to talk about
Starting point is 01:07:26 the theory that you get more zombie movies during Republican presidencies and more vampire movies during Democratic administrations Zombieland 2 came out during Trump's reign but I feel like it didn't do that well so I am
Starting point is 01:07:41 we wrote about this back at Cracked some website called cracked in 2011 and i but i do feel like it ended after trump like all things like any semblance of yeah i don't i don't know that i buy it anymore because first of all trump like zombie land 2 coming out during trump's administration trump was like the prototypical like nightmare version of a republican administration and we only got zombie land 2 like that's that and nobody went and saw that shit so like i do feel like we've crossed a a line and like this this doesn't really hold anymore because you mean like we don't watch as much zombies now well it's just like i don't think we're as afraid
Starting point is 01:08:31 of or i don't know i don't dude you know the zombies made it over the wall like i don't think anyone's afraid that joe biden is so here's the theory I'll just lay out the theory. The theory is you get more zombies during Republican presidencies because zombies represent what Democrats fear about Republicans, a mall, just like mindless, groaning hordes. That's kind of how Democrats tend to picture Republicans. And then vampire movies come out during Democratic administrations because vampires represent what Republicans fear about Democrats, which is like this stylish European kind of party animal sexually ambiguous i always thought zombies represented xenophobia i think they probably do as well because there's always a wall they're gonna break through one comes with a horde right all they do is consume, consume, consume. Exactly. And are they paying back into the system, these zombies? Not at all. Exactly. But there was that interesting film that came out during the Trump presidency.
Starting point is 01:09:53 My Uncle the Zombie, which was about the guy talking about his uncle's a zombie and really normalizing and humanizing this. It was produced by The New York Times. Yeah. Like I wonder if there was that uptick and kind of thing where it's like zombies are actually kind of chill they're not all bad you know we're like wait what the fuck i feel like this made a lot of sense up through obama right like w like the w administration i remember like zombies having like a huge moment like dawn of the dead resident evil 28 days later 28 weeks survival handbook yeah people like oh yeah that was when world war z the book i think came out
Starting point is 01:10:33 and then during obama we had like the twilight franchise which was like a sexy vampire which like fully fits into the idea of like the the fear republicans fear of democrats is not just that they are like these you know sexually progressive immigrants with style but that they also appeal to their like teenage children so twilight is like the worst case scenario for that and but then there wasn't like i never felt like the during the trump administration like zombies were having a big comeback and i don't feel like even though this jamie foxx movie looks cool i don't think anybody is like i'm scared of joe biden and therefore i'm going to watch like Joe Biden doesn't evoke a smooth, hovering vampire to me. No. If anything, he's a zombie.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Yeah. Well, that's the thing too. Yeah. He's an old rotten corpse walking around this shit. My palate cleanser for Biden is the show Cheers. Why? Because everybody knows your name there and he can't remember anyone's name. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:11:51 Okay. Norm. Like he would do well. Norm. I know that guy. They form bar away from policy. I've always thought Cheers is the subjective depiction of what drunk people think a bar looks like versus what it actually looks like. Right.
Starting point is 01:12:11 That's what a bar feels like when you're drunk. It's like well lit and everybody's like funny. Glad you came. Glad and cheerful. Rather than be like, oh, fuck, Norm's here. He's a racist ass shit again yeah i'll fucking cut him off he's not drunk i don't care i don't fuck i want him to fucking leave hey go to i'll have another do you think i mean yeah i guess that we've we've really i guess
Starting point is 01:12:38 what is is there's no other vampire stuff on the horizon i feel like there oh there is there is a bunch of vampire i just don't buy that it's like coming from people's fear of joe biden but maybe i'm just like so out of touch with mainstream america's i don't know let's go brandonization yeah no there's a bunch of vampire shit coming so like this would tie into it it's i guess i haven't made made room for the trump presidency or i haven't made sense of the Trump presidency because like that just doesn't feel like a thing. Maybe it's just a thing we haven't like grappled with as a, like culturally, because there's just,
Starting point is 01:13:16 I don't see it in the culture, but maybe somebody can point me towards like the, the monster movies that do a good job representing the Trump administration. But, yeah, we got interview with the vampires becoming an AMC show. Marvel is rebooting Blade next year. So it's coming. The centrist liberals are very worried about Biden in my little centrist liberal infiltration feed. About like what a sexually charismatic genius he is. that he's not at all and that he's gonna
Starting point is 01:13:47 lose and they just like keep pitching each other like alternative candidates because they're so scared he's gonna run and then lose who are those hypothetical canopy bootages and shit like morbius that was a vampire movie and it's like nobody went and saw that shit with biden in office there's a lot of insisting michelle obama run and save us oh my god yeah i know black women do the labor of saving this fucking festering crater of a country well you gaslight everything obama third time you know i think do you think maybe a quiet place kind of summed up the vibes of the Trump era? Yeah. I feel like it definitely did.
Starting point is 01:14:31 I think that was the one, because remember, like, I remember, I think JM wrote up A Quiet Place. We were talking about how it really was encapsulating conservative fears around, like, don't open your mouth. Yeah. Because the shit that you say will get you snatched up or canceled. You know what I mean? And bird box. Right. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:53 A lot of just shutting down your senses. I think maybe we're moving in. Maybe like we've blown up the vampire zombie, you know dynamic and we're moving into some other thing for another phase now where people are like into being like really ignorant right and it's saving their life yeah there's a lot of that you know what i mean that's the scary thing is that like the stereotypical action movie hero in and or just like movie protagonist for like movies targeted at male demographics is is like a trump supporter now it's like a an operator who's good with a gun and like has been for a long time like there is this article jason pargin wrote it correct that was pointing out that like when you look back at who are like who people root for in american films it's like the rural like person
Starting point is 01:15:54 who's trying to take down the government like in star wars you know it's a it's like luke skywalker would be like mega you know as opposed to like it it just feels like it's that's we're in a weird new era where i don't know i guess that's what that movie is it's a social media era it's a social media era we're in we're in all these pockets of echo chambers where everyone thinks that they are the underdog right people don't actually understand power anymore and how it operates because we're all so cut off right yeah right it's just become this like abstraction that people yeah to fantasize about and like have everyone has their own weird version of it like there are all these like dry land and water world exactly exactly you've not
Starting point is 01:16:41 seen dry land oh i have it's fucking weird man don't listen that motherfucker i mean the white genocide fears that got stoked during the trump presidency and and election even and um that continue and like the people's bizarre conspiracy theories about the vaccine the vaccines and their relationship to like, it just goes on and on. Yeah. Yeah. Well,
Starting point is 01:17:09 you know, see how it ends. Pop some popcorn. Yeah. Hopefully I don't walk out of this flick. Zara. It's been a pleasure having you as always. I'm always here for the good news. You can find me and more good news at Zara Comedy,
Starting point is 01:17:29 Z-A-H-R-A Comedy, and at Snap Judgment. There you go. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Yeah. Oh my God. I sent it to you, Miles. Oh yeah. Okay. social media you've been enjoying yeah oh my god i sent it to you miles oh yeah okay this is from
Starting point is 01:17:47 jason mott best-selling author and national book award recipient it's a poster okay it's actually pieces of wood i'm not describing this well it's like it's a bench it's a bench this is a bench it's a park bench yeah yeah it's a park those are the wood planks of a park bench thank you miles that have the writing attention exclamation exclamation parentheticals true story arrow crow is all caps double underline pretending to be injured to get food! Exclamation, exclamation. He's stashing most behind the fence he walks under. And after bus goes by, he flies off like normal! Exclamation, exclamation, exclamation.
Starting point is 01:18:37 I was going to call SBCA! Exclamation, exclamation. Don't be... Don't be had like I was. Hashtag hustled by the crow. Oh, my God. That feels like it's coming from a real place, too, right? This is to do graffiti on a park bench, but have it be like a weird.
Starting point is 01:19:04 Don't let that crow play you like it played me. Like, what kind of energy is that to bring to a fucking bus? Like a park bench, but hey. You guys, what if this crow is the first anamorph of Jeff Bezos? Oh, shit. That's what he would do. He would just start hoarding.
Starting point is 01:19:21 Yeah, exactly. Like, oh, I need more, please. Like, man man he's hiding all that shit behind the fence when the bus goes by crows are smart i don't disbelieve the the person who's complaining about this i just questioned their decision to be outraged as opposed to sort of impressed unless don't be had like i was exclamationclamation, exclamation. How much food was this person given to this crow? But they're like,
Starting point is 01:19:48 could you imagine? My week's pay. Yeah. Like also, yeah, maybe there was a significant investment made in that crow, like financially and emotionally,
Starting point is 01:19:57 that it does maybe feel like, okay, you know what? I'm not mad at you. You really did. You sold your house to try and support that crow. Amazing. Miles, where can people find you?
Starting point is 01:20:06 What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Find me, follow me at Miles of Gray. Check us out on Miles and Jack Got Mad Boosties, an NBA podcast. Shout out to at NBA for tweeting about the show where they said, at Miles of Gray and at Jack O'Brien, give us their top 525 in the comments. They warm my heart. They said who and who got what? Love the internet.
Starting point is 01:20:32 Y'all are undefeated. Also check me out on 420 Day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra. Some tweets I like. Okay, this is from dead meat at death crush, but rather than an S, it's a five. Tweeted, oh, sorry, I didn't know you have trauma.
Starting point is 01:20:48 You can keep being mean to me now. Oh, my God. Seen that a few times. Another one is from Xander Cannon, who just said, at Xander underscore Cannon tweeted, oh, thank goodness. See, I thought the HBO Max was just removing a bunch of shows for no reason at all, but it's actually so that they don't have to pay residuals to the creators. Oh, good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:11 Well, now it makes sense. Yeah. And then John Fetterman, Senate candidate in Pennsylvania, he's been nonstop windmilling on Dr. Oz. Like, Dr. Oz can fuck, he can't fucking get anything, like, right. right he did a thing first he got him to be like i got 10 houses and everyone's like you got 10 houses two houses 10 properties
Starting point is 01:21:34 two houses i bought legitimately mine 10 properties and it's like i'm sorry legitimately yours anyway so what does that mean strong uh it's a normal collar find a new angle oh yeah 100% like you got me but like there's nothing wrong with that uh there's that meme that's going around which is like it's like clearly from like a music festival where there's like a girl and like a crop top like with her arm around a dude's shoulder and she's like just yelling into his ear something and people have had fun a lot of fun with this image at john fetterman tweeted so basically i own 10 properties but like legitimately only two homes a home is just anything in new jersey where i live my mansion in florida is just a vacation home so that doesn't count and the one
Starting point is 01:22:16 in maine is technically under my wife's name so it's not legitimately mine fucking cooked his ass with that meme. So yeah. Long may it last. Sam Grazies tweeted, so I'm pretty frustrated and confused right now. Just got home from a date and when she went to pick up her bill, I said don't worry about it. Drinks are on me tonight. She fucking threw her full
Starting point is 01:22:39 beer at me. Does this happen to anyone else? Her name is Amelia Bedelia if that helps. I would vote for Amelia Bedelia for president. Yeah, fuck. I'm honestly I'll vote for fucking Sting from WCW. You can find
Starting point is 01:22:58 me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy?
Starting point is 01:23:19 This is a track from this, you know, like artist, comedian, just sort of general makes interesting stuff uh in the music world oliver tree uh i'm sure the young kids know about him uh but i just listened to this one track that's like a remix like turned like a sampling one of his songs and then turned into like sort of an edm track and it just made me feel like i was in, you know, Germany or some shit. And it's called Miss You. And it's the Oliver Tree and Robin Schultz mix. S-C-H-U-L-Z. Check it out on your Friday.
Starting point is 01:23:53 Just start fist pumping, you know, crack some glow sticks. But don't microwave them. Do not microwave your glow sticks, folks, and ruin a beautiful shirt. This is Miss You by Oliver Tree. Am I ever right, Miles? Am I ever right? Am I ever right? Beautiful shirt. Everybody should check out that video.
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Starting point is 01:24:21 Peace. I'll talk to y'all then. Bye. Bye. Peace. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.
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Starting point is 01:25:30 of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking
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