The Daily Zeitgeist - More Couch Cushion For The Pushin’, Skibidi 2nd Shooter 07.25.24

Episode Date: July 25, 2024

In episode 1714, Jack and Miles are joined by co-host of Stuff They Don't Want You To Know and Ridiculous History, Ben Bowlin, to discuss… Wait…People DON’T Like JD Vance? No, JD Vance Didn’t... F*ck A Couch, The Right Has Embraced The ‘Second Shooter’ Conspiracy Theory, Michael Bay Is Working On A Skibidi Toilet Cinematic Universe... God Help Us All and more! Wait…People DON’T Like JD Vance? The inside story of how Trump chose JD Vance as his running mate No, JD Vance Didn’t F*ck A Couch The Right Has Embraced The ‘Second Shooter’ Conspiracy Theory How the ‘second shooter’ conspiracy theory spread after the Trump assassination attempt Conspiracy falsely claims there was second shooter at Trump rally on a water tower MSU Professor helps with gunfire investigation at former President Trump's rally July 14, 2024, coverage of the Trump assassination attempt 'There was a second shooter?' Maria Bartiromo and Ron Johnson flip out over Trump gunman How the ‘second shooter’ conspiracy theory spread after the Trump assassination attempt Conspiracy theorists spread false rumor of second shooter on fourth floor in Las Vegas The Sandy Hook Elementary Shooting was not a Television Production Robert Kennedy Assassination: Did Shooter Sirhan Sirhan Act Alone? Michael Bay Is Working On A Skibidi Toilet Cinematic Universe... God Help Us All Michael Bay Is Working On A Skibidi Toilet Cinematic Universe LISTEN: Alien Love Call by BADBADNOTGOOD, TurnstileSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 when i was on vacation with my little nephews who are 11 and 9 oh yeah skippity riz bro they're talking about skippity riz they're talking about skippity ohio bro so yeah skippity ohio yeah so like they were they were they were shouting sk were shouting ohio they we there was like this set of stairs that like you could climb up it was like three stories high and then you jumped into the ocean and like my nine-year-old nephew screamed skibbity ohio skibbity toilet ohio and it was such a hit at the beach with the Croatian kids that they were like making requests for the Skibbity Toilet thing for him to say next. Like they all like he got swarmed when he got out of the celebrity. Yeah, they were like, yo, it's the Skibbity Toilet, kid.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Say the Skibbity. Yo, say Skibbity Toilet, Cincinnati, Ohio. Wait, they're like requesting him scream that as he jumps as he jumps off the thing and then they were like yeah and you said it's three stories so yeah it's high second to get up there yeah it takes the anticipation's building or yes oh man and yeah i mean these are like 20 minute videos with like just lore, skibbity toilet lore. Yeah. I can't even find the original 11 second clip. Like that's, it's hundreds of millions of views.
Starting point is 00:01:32 I don't know what to do with myself. I don't know what to do with this. I might just have to do a, I need to get my wife's Theragun and just do a hard reset and hope that this doesn't hope that this information just leaves or you're going to put it deeper into your skull and you're like, that's how it's how skippity toilet starts making Columbus, Ohio, Skippity Dayton, Ohio. People talk about like taking,
Starting point is 00:02:01 you know, once you change your psychiatric medication and like you start liking different music, like is the way to start liking skibbity toilet is you do a hard reset with the theragun and yeah i'll work in those skibbity makes jack a dull boy that's right i'm jess casaveto executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app,
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Starting point is 00:03:23 and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's
Starting point is 00:03:40 sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts podcast or wherever you get your podcast presented by capital one founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to season 348 episode 4 of your daily night guys stay production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's filthy, strange, diseased, shared consciousness. Skibbity consciousness. Skibbity consciousness. It is Thursday, July 25th, 2024. I'm officially old as fuck. Hey man, Skibbity Youngstown, National Wine and Cheese Day is July 25th. Skibbity Dayton, Ohio.
Starting point is 00:04:25 National Hire a Veteran Day. Skibbity Cincinnati, Ohio. National Refresher Day. Wait, are you actually saying that, or is that just my brain doing that? What do you mean? I'm just saying the days. Oh, okay. Say what?
Starting point is 00:04:34 What day it is at the beginning of the show. What are you? Okay. Are you okay? No, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry. This has just been happening immediately.
Starting point is 00:04:40 No, all good. It's also National Skibbity Riz Hot Fudge Skibbity Sunday Day. Also, National Marigolds Skibbity Round Day, National Thread the Needle Skibbity Day, and National Intern Day Skibbity. Yeah, great things. Intern Day? Oh, also, man, shout out Ohio, actually. It's also National Chili Dog Day Skibbity Cincinnati. Okay, let's go. Let's have some conies. I know you said it.
Starting point is 00:05:03 I said Cincinnati. Oh, okay. Yeah, because of your Skyline or Gold Star Chili. You said it. I know you said it. I said Cincinnati. Oh, okay. Yeah, because of your Skyline or Gold Star Chili. Right. Yeah. Right. You said, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And not the High Road you, but Cincinnati's in Ohio. Exactly. You either like Gold Star Chili or you like Skibbity Line Chili. What did you just say? Skyline Chili or Gold Star Chili. Gold Star. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now you side by there in Skibbity Dayton, Ohio. Wait, what? Merry-go-rounds. Shout out to merry-go-rounds. I realized that I hadn't noticed that they were missing from current playgrounds until I went overseas. And my kids played on like a European playground. And I got to just spin their ass.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Oh, you were doing that? Yeah. Well, you know, you were doing that? Yeah. Well, you know, they were on there alone. I wasn't like freaking out the neighborhood kids or anything. Well, I figured that would be fucked up if you're like, hey, get on. The crazy American.
Starting point is 00:05:56 I don't know what language you're speaking, but I think you're saying go faster. He's crying. He's puking. But yeah, we don't have those, at least not in LA playgrounds anymore. I think we, yeah, I think we lost our privileges for those because we used to do dumb shit. I mean, I see, I still see videos where people like hook up ropes to them and then like take off like on a dirt bike.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Get a Jenny out there. Oh wow. Oh yeah. To turn it into like a fucking centrifuge, like a scientific centrifuge, but with human bodies on it. Yeah. Um, yeah, but hey, that's us. Wait, but you're talking like a fucking centrifuge, like a scientific centrifuge, but with human bodies on it. Yeah. Yeah, but hey, that's us. Wait, but you're talking about like the metal ones, right?
Starting point is 00:06:29 Not like a fancy sort of like turn of the century horsey. Yeah, no, no, no. I'm thinking of the metal ones that you like run really fast around and then spin. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. A lot of sharp edges on those too back in the day. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The one I grew up on was rusty as fuck and there was like a little dugout underneath it
Starting point is 00:06:49 that kids would like kind of try and get under. It was a mess. Oh, like Dayton, Ohio. Underneath the platform? Like they wanted to duck underneath the spinning plate? Legend has it there's a couple of them still there. Yeah, that's right yeah all right well my
Starting point is 00:07:08 name's jack o'brien aka he is 10 suck 20 shill 15 fabricated billy of hill five percent musky and a fake fucking name and a hundred percent reason jd vance is a lame. That is courtesy of J.D. Salabar on the Discord. J.D. Vance. That's J.D. Vance's name on our Discord. And, you know, a lot of self-loathing, but we knew that already. A little. Remember the name Fort Minor, a.k.a. Hell yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:07:39 I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr gray 50 black 50 japanese uh anyway but my actual aka is now they're raising major cream maybe we'll all be fine November, take your time Alright, shout out to X3R0 On the Discord for that We were just talking about Billy Ocean too Billy Ocean Caribbean Queen Take your time November please
Starting point is 00:08:15 Yeah, you can go Michael McDonald Not ask That's common last name Yeah, you gotta to use a little, it reverberates more in the mouth when you're doing McDonald's. Miles, Miles, enough silliness. It's time to get serious.
Starting point is 00:08:35 We got conspiracy theories to talk about and we have the man to talk about that. Once again, a writer, one of the best podcast hosts,ps doing it you know stuff they don't want you to know ridiculous history limited series let's start a coup please welcome to the show it's ben bowen yeah i like that as an aka i'm down with this again i'm not ben bowling anymore you do that you're forgetting that it's really weird with this. I'm not Ben Bowling anymore. I keep forgetting that. It's really weird, man. I keep forgetting I'm not you anymore.
Starting point is 00:09:10 That's a hard one. Yeah, we moved on from that contract. We have got to be some different people here. Another AKA could be Seeing Kamala in Big Intelligent Debate Intrigue, which would be an acronym for Skibity.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Oh, wow. Whoa. Off the dome. I'm sorry, what the fuck did you just say, bro? Skibity? This is the first time I'm hearing this. Yeah, it's a word we just made up and didn't exist earlier. That's cool, dude.
Starting point is 00:09:39 I had a neighbor who would make up words too, but they're usually like slurs, I think. He's just a creator nonetheless. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Who are we to my favorite content creator? My racist neighbor. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Amazing. How you been, Ben? It's been a, I'm sure, not boring time in the conspiracy theory community. Yeah, that's right. Oh, I forgot about that. Yeah, it was an interesting time to be sure, you know, and being kind of a
Starting point is 00:10:12 dirtbag. One of my first thoughts when I learned about Thank You for Nodding Solemnly Miles. One of my first thoughts. Shout out dirtbags. The attempted assassination was, man, I thought I had the weekend off. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Because, you know, like you and me and everybody, we know the news traveled so quickly. And then, of course, this being the first kind of, specifically the first kind of attempt of its sort in the age of ubiquitous social media in the u.s then people were just off to the races you know it was like you could just go on x and then say also what does this have to do with dunkin donuts and then there'll be somebody come back and hit you with an essay that just broke the shit down, right? very horned up and energized as a an attempted assassination somebody dying somebody not being dead but them thinking they're dead it's really like i feel like they're just activated and now like the biden thing they're like oh come on you're you expect me to believe he's not dead yeah the two biggest are i think it was uhebert was saying, prove that Biden is alive.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Yeah. And then he's probably in the room at some point there. And then the idea that when that guy's stepping away from the campaign or from running again, the cycle or the propaganda machine so quickly switched to this is a coup. This is actually happening. Yeah. Yeah. And then when he does die, there will be a conspiracy theory that he's still alive with Elvis and
Starting point is 00:12:11 Tupac. He's still running the shadow government. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Think about it. Duncan are the, like,
Starting point is 00:12:17 I mean the news cycle, like we were always talking like, how long will this even stay in the news cycle? Sadly, is it, you think conspiracy theorists, they're still like, well, it may have less than the news cycle, but we is it, you think conspiracy theorists, they're still like, well,
Starting point is 00:12:25 it may have less than the news cycle, but we still, we still need to figure out what happened. I think the biggest, the biggest question mark for me was like, there was like, where was the real medical report on his exact injury? Like,
Starting point is 00:12:35 like right away. And that was a little strange, but other than that, it was clear that whatever had hit him was not significant enough to continue wearing a gigantic band-aid for more than the RNC. There's definitely a bullet that hit his ear because I saw that recreation
Starting point is 00:12:51 video where the bullets, the big bullet faces from Mario go by his head and you can tell that that's the bullet, the trick that passed that the bullets went down. I also, I've never met Donald Trump in style. You've never met Donald Trump. Oh, bro, you would love it.
Starting point is 00:13:08 You've never met Donald Trump? Oh, on the record. You would. All right. So I remember thinking about like, oh, this guy has a past in WWE, which is, that might explain some of the bandage. It's clearly a little bit of political theater the miles's thing about the medical records i think that is definitely there are things that are objectively weird about this like the secret service agents we asked about this on
Starting point is 00:13:37 our show we had some former folks in that field right into us and yeah you're not supposed to stop on stage yeah it's not i guess they chill in other places, you're not supposed to stop on stage. Yeah, it's not. I guess they chill in other places, but you're not supposed to chill then, you know, like post-fire shots fired. Yeah, right. And does he take his shoes off? Like he takes his shoes off when he does a speech.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Yeah, that seems true. It must be. Because it didn't seem like any He said, my shoes. any... You said my shoes. I need to get my shoes. One of them was seen flying off the stage at some point. Yeah, like an agent threw it off, I think, just to clear the foot space or something.
Starting point is 00:14:14 It was weird. And then you saw a little lift fall out. Wait, were they nagging him? Were they bullying him? Your shoe? Oh, yeah, there you go. Why don't you go get it, bitch? That one.
Starting point is 00:14:23 There you go. Go ahead. Go get it right now. Go ahead, man. There's an active shooter. But yeah, you're so worried there you go. Why don't you go get it, bitch? That one. There you go, fool. Go ahead. Go get it right now, man. Go ahead, man. There's an active shooter, but yeah, you're so worried about your shoe. Why don't you go get it? Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Yeah, but a lot of questions for that part. I mean, we always try to not, if someone approaches us with a question or isn't this weird kind of thing, or even pitching a conspiracy conspiracy try not to dismiss them out of hand if they're being i guess courteous in the way they're explaining it right yeah like but it is dangerous to that question the idea of how these things evolve the modern folklore of it is it'll leave the news cycle for a minute until more information comes out but while it's not there on the surface we're going to see people get further into their own rabbit holes on subreddits, you know, on various discords and stuff.
Starting point is 00:15:10 And then the thing that they cook up when it surfaces again into the mainstream is going to be fucking bananas. I can't wait. You know what I mean? I mean, we're going to talk about it. We're starting to see some of it reemerge.
Starting point is 00:15:26 We've talked, I think on Tuesday's minds from the early impression of the story. And I think that's what we're seeing. We're seeing some old tropes that we always love in our shootings. There's a second shooter is the new trope that is making its way throughout the country. So we'll talk about that. Then we're going to get to know you a little bit better. First, some of the other things we're talking about, in addition to the second shooter conspiracy theory, just the racist woman-hating GOP shitshow is spinning into full gear now that Kamala Harris is the official candidate, so we're just going to take a brief glimpse of what that looks like. We're going to talk about the continued that people are making fun of J.D. Vance about is, in fact, incorrect. We do have to fact check you.
Starting point is 00:16:53 He did not brag in his memo. So a lot of people are fact checking this by saying he did not fuck an inside out latex glove that he had stuffed in between couch cushions. I can't say that with confidence what i can say is he did not brag about doing that in his memoir yeah yeah that's that's all i can say that's very fair yeah i'm sure that'll come up in the debate i hope they open a debate that way like in defense of my opponent yeah i mean if republicans are you know they like to you know just say debunked conspiracy theories out loud as if they're true. So why not just do that? Like at the debate, be like, dude, so what's up with the glove, man?
Starting point is 00:17:33 Just see where he goes with that. See what he handles with that. Handles that question. All of that. We might get into the Skibbity Toilet. I mean, we have to get into the Skibbity Toilet cinematic universe because, yeah, we have to get into the skibbity toilet cinematic universe because yeah, Michael Bay is now working with the creator of skibbity toilet to professionalize the kind of back engine of this, whatever the fuck that means. But we'll just take a quick look at the skibbity toilet phenomenon, all of that, plenty more,
Starting point is 00:18:00 but first Ben Bolin, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? Oh boy. All right. These are some weird ones. One is the orphan train. One is how the modern birth position came about, which are either of those new to you guys? I don't know what the orphan train is. A modern birth position? Okay, go on. Yeah. Okay, so we'll run through both of them.
Starting point is 00:18:27 So the orphan train refers to a program from the mid-1800s to the 1920s, wherein the U.S. government co-signed taking orphans or just abducting children and auctioning them off via rail to farms across America. This was to be like farm workers. Yeah, yeah. Child labor. But the way the guy who figured it out or came up with this idea was a young seminary student from a pretty well-to-do family in Connecticut. He came down to New York at one of the worst times to be in New York. It was hellish to him because there was this massive influx of immigration via Ellis Island. There was always a series of up and down financial disasters and affordable housing, not really
Starting point is 00:19:21 a thing. Social safety net, not really a thing. This resulted in tens of thousands of just absolutely destitute homeless children roaming the streets in a real-life, non-cutesy Oliver Twist way. Terrible things are happening to these kids. Hair tangled together, just rolling around like a giant ball of orphans. Like a rat king. Like a rat king. Like an orphan king. Yeah, selling loose cigarettes. This is the period of time that the documentary Newsies is about. Yes, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Yeah, nailed it. And so this guy, at first when I heard about this for a history show we do, I thought that's crazy. I mean, the U.S. has a lot of terrible things in its past and its present. And I was like, but auction off kids?
Starting point is 00:20:10 In the late 1800s? I remember in the early 1800s, they were kind of auctioning people off. After? Yeah, I thought there was a whole thing about that. But it turned out this was a real program
Starting point is 00:20:27 and the ramifications of it continue today because it ended in 1929. Let's be clear, there were kids who did have a better chance at life and they did get adopted by families that treated them like their actual children. But even in those cases, there are a lot of people adopted by families that treated them like their actual children. But in, even in those cases, there are a lot of people today who may not know, you know, their full ancestry or something because also a lot of these kids weren't
Starting point is 00:20:55 orphans. I think only, I mean, less than half of them were orphans. About 25% of them had their two birth parents living with them in New York. They just didn't speak English or there was religious persecution. So they got snatched. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Wow. Better to be a farmhand than a child in a Catholic family. Jack is reading the transcript from statements by this preacher. But we have an episode of that. The birth position thing, I mean, I know that's a downer. So the birth position thing that I just learned about today
Starting point is 00:21:31 when I was thinking of like, what is something that Jack and Miles haven't heard of? All right, so most women today or people giving birth, in the West at least, give birth lying down, right? Like you're prone position. Yeah, nobody's like, I just take birth, lie down. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Nobody's like, I just take a knee, pop a squat or whatever. Uh, so the real reason this happens apparently is back in the 17th century. King Louis, the 14th was super obsessed with watching his children being born. Oh,
Starting point is 00:22:02 so like a kink. Yeah. Yeah. I know he's a loving dad jack okay come on dude sick bro the sick uh people who film it what's what is your problem you sicko it's so uh so that's the story i didn't know i mean i'm not a doctor so a lot of times when i hear accepted medical practice i always think okay yeah you know somebody smarter than me figured that one out. Thank goodness.
Starting point is 00:22:29 But no, this is all because King Louis XIV had 22 children and loved watching them come into the world. What was the accepted position before that little freak got his hands on? I think it's more like freestyle swimming yeah it's just whatever whatever yeah just yeah whatever's best way to get it out i mean like i remember when my child was born uh like the the amount of positions you change up like you're never gonna stay in one position all right let's try this one let's try this one go get the ball okay now now let's just let's just like arch that back. Let's try this way. Let's go to the side. So yeah,
Starting point is 00:23:06 it feels like I get now that like in the moment it's like, yeah, try whatever we can to help, uh, you know, facilitate the, the delivery of this child. But then it's more,
Starting point is 00:23:16 but it's wild to think that it started off. You're like, why don't we just start off like this though? Yeah. Just laying down in the turrets. And thank goodness, you know, when you're becoming parents, there's not some creepy
Starting point is 00:23:28 absolute monarch who pops in and says, I have some notes. Right. He was watching everybody else's children be born, too. This ain't your kid, is it? Oh, no, no, no. I'm just... That is very... Curious listener. Very, like,
Starting point is 00:23:44 patriarchal that, like, the reason for it is just because it was being treated as a spectator sport for the father like for the man in question yeah they're like yeah yeah more on that later but like what's gonna give me the best view i think this looks the best wasn't there a sculpture of britney spears giving birth like on all fours or something do you remember that is that what it's weird i i remember this being a news story at one point like and people are like that's so weird and doctors at the time were like actually that is oftentimes a better position to assume when giving birth but i don't know all the details yeah it was a pro-life
Starting point is 00:24:27 britney spears sculpture oh it was oh yeah i'm not up that's why i know it yeah yeah yeah it's like yeah she's like on a bare skin rug it's fucking weird that's very yeah again very like some person with a childbirth fetish was like uh yeah no this is about uh politics oh louis classic louis yeah uh all right let's take a quick break we'll come back we'll get your overrated underrated and talk some news i'm jess casetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into
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Starting point is 00:28:04 you get your podcasts. And we're back. And Ben Bolin, what is something you think is underrated? All right, this is a scattershot one because I've got a lot of stuff I think we could agree is underrated. Like libraries, right? One of the few places where you don't have to pay to exist. Miles says mid. Next one.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Next track. All right. All right. All right. Next track. Next track. Back up to the plate. I got really, I've been doing some road trips and I forgot how super into weird and specific
Starting point is 00:28:43 museums I am. Like we've all seen good museums, you know, but I want the stuff in the middle of nowhere into weird and specific museums. I am like, we've all seen good museums, you know, but I want this stuff in the middle of nowhere, you know, like an hour and a half from the highway where some guys just got, has just fallen in love with like frying pants.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Right, right, right, right. And there's a little pamphlet at the gas station. It's like, Hey, how much do you think you know about frying pants?
Starting point is 00:29:04 I take that shit personally. I will show show up what's the weirdest and most specific museum you've been to that i've been to one of the weirdest quite recently is the thing called the museum so like with an extra m at the beginning and the back. And it's just this, yeah, it's, it's just this, uh, tiny thing, uh,
Starting point is 00:29:29 out, out in New York at like a cubicle basically where they have all this strange ephemera, uh, that you wouldn't see in, in a lot of other exhibits. Like they always change it up. They're like a pop-up museum.
Starting point is 00:29:42 You could call it, uh, the first time I was there, they had the records of last meals of people were facing execution. And I thought this is weird, but if I have friends in town with the right vibe, then, you know, maybe they'd be interested in seeing this too. And then I took some friends and the next time we were there, it was all, and it was an exhibit of knockoff fast food from other countries that can't have American or Western fast food chains. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:12 So you never know what you're going to get. I think that was cool. That's probably the most recent weird one I've been to. I'm going to an exhibit about the history of pasta design later this weekend. Oh, wow. Yeah, because I'm fun at parties. What's history of pasta design later this weekend. Oh, wow. Yeah, because I'm fun at parties. What's your favorite pasta design? Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:30:32 I mean, stuff. I would say I think bucatini is the superior spaghetti noodle because of the surface area. Yeah, get the sauce in there. I like a fusilli because for service area purposes also.
Starting point is 00:30:48 It's all about getting as much sauce on that thing. You know what I mean? This is the real journalism you're turning in for. Get some sauce on that thing. So the museum is just, it's like whatever they happen to be interested in at the moment.
Starting point is 00:31:03 I don't know much about the background. I don't want to offend them, but I'm picturing the weirdest brain trust of the most exaggeratedly Brooklyn-esque people ever. Yes. I want them to be concept artists, or I want them to be, you know, secretly, secretly experts in some other field. Like, you know, I'm primarily known for being an astronaut. However, my true love. I'm a particle physicist who just loves like jail stuff.
Starting point is 00:31:39 You know what I mean? Jail stuff. That's what you call it? Yeah, jail stuff. Yeah, jail stuff. Okay. Come to my museum. Museum. All right, dude. Did you notice anything about the trends of last meals that people requested?
Starting point is 00:31:57 Like, was it fried chicken? Yeah, fried chicken was a popular one. For some reason, that popped up in my mind. A lot of sweets. Is that what you want? I think it might be you want that last little crunch after the state has determined
Starting point is 00:32:12 that they can take your life yeah they used to let you go hog wild in the US anything you want to the point where I'm pretty sure we'd have to do an episode on this together, but I'm pretty sure there was one or two guys who tried,
Starting point is 00:32:31 tried to run out the clock. Yeah. They were the day of execution based on how difficult it was to acquire their last. Right. This gaspacho is hot. I can't be executed now. Or,
Starting point is 00:32:44 or just like treating it like a all you can eat kind of buffet without a clock on it like oh sure i'm not done yet though right so i will have some more i remember like back in the day like in maxim magazine or some shit when i was a teenager reading like a thing where they interviewed like a like a chef or like one of the people culinary people on death row and it was like what they always get and it was I remember coming away with it that it was always surprisingly fairly simple like people just wanted like a burger and fries or like just I think everyday kind of food cheeseburger like a nice smash burger cheeseburger with fries you've been locked up so long, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:25 You know what I mean? I feel like that's like when I'm really hungry, that's probably the thing that I'm wanting. What about you, Miles? Hmm. This would be my tactic when they ask. Great question. Oh, man, that's such a good question let me think about that i'm gonna go back in my cell really quick and let me just have a think on this that cool let me get back to
Starting point is 00:33:52 like circle back in a week yeah yeah yeah circle back in a week take your time let's circle back they did change uh i think it goes state by state. So some laws were changed whenever given political entity wants to appear tough on crime. And so I think in many places, the idea of a last meal as a special request has been removed. So it's a weird, weird slice of history. I'm doing all downers today. I mean, even the concept of it is interesting. Is that born out of the guilt over over being like man well we got a fucking off this guy at least you can have a fucking salisbury steak or some shit yeah like the
Starting point is 00:34:34 nice person inside the most inhumane institution in the world i mean especially when you think about someone like back in the day when people were getting ex like Truly the most innocent people Where they're like well I don't know he's black So we're just gonna That's the guy Or many other people who have been wrongfully Had their lives ended who were actually innocent Like I mean like the undercurrent
Starting point is 00:34:58 Of all that like while you're part of that Apparatus it's sort of like fuck dude Let's get the guy like A waffle or some shit, dude. I know what it looks like, but really, I'm a softie at heart. That's what it says
Starting point is 00:35:13 on their Facebook page. Alright. Always fascinating, Ben. What is something you think is overrated? Two things. I know this is close to a lot of us listening to uh this evening and close to you guys as well i would say on a petty level i don't dig vegas i think vegas is overrated hoover dam's awesome but i'm just the schlubby guy vegas is not for me you
Starting point is 00:35:39 know what i mean but more importantly america's never-ending election cycle is so fucking weird it's wrong the hoover damn bill never-ending election cycle yeah yeah yeah that's funny we've had two las vegas contradicting opinions on las vegas over the oh really yeah molly lambert was on saying well she was more saying i pick vegas over palm springs palm springs yeah okay but yeah either way the never-ending election cycle though is not just overrated it's detrimental uh i think to the entire country to drag shit out like this and have every like all the attention go on this thing that really doesn't bring about a lot of change. I mean, depending on whose policies are enacted, but like truly the way we treat it.
Starting point is 00:36:27 And like, to the detriment of every other story that's happening in the country and in the world is a little fucking. Yeah. Yeah. That's my favorite response to the Kamala Harris, like taking over people being like, how's she going to run for president in this amount of time?
Starting point is 00:36:40 We don't have enough time. It's like, I don't know. Look at literally every other country. Exactly. You don't need that time. We don't have enough time. It's like, I don't know, look special lobster fest is just all the time. It's not a special occasion. It's always lobster fest. It's always election season here in the United States. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Alright, guys. Election season's coming up. Get your lobsters. Get your lobsters. Wolf Blitzer. Wolf Blitzer. Oh my gosh. Got his spritzer knocked out of his fucking hand. Said to go up on this shit.
Starting point is 00:37:29 All right. Well, let's get into some news. Continued fallouts from the JD Vance selection, which happened a while back, beginning of last week, but it seems like we're still seeing people's feelings pan out about who this guy is, how much we love him, just what a Riz God he is. Dude, he's, like I said,
Starting point is 00:37:55 Grand Rizzard of the KKK, this guy. Oh, wow. The highest compliment anyone can get in the Republican Party. Hell yeah. Skibbity Vance out here so let's take i just want to take a look into some reporting from the week that was preceding the rnc when everyone was convinced that it would be one of marco rubio or derg burger the governor of north dakota that
Starting point is 00:38:16 people forgot about so this i'm sorry doug bergum that's what it is it's just it's so hard to say i'm like derg burger this is this is this is some of the reporting quote from NBC News. The conversation quickly turned tense when the former president indicated that he was leaning toward Doug. Dirkberger. Dirkberger. Miles. It's easy. Dirkberger. Dirkberger. Bo Burnham. Until recently. Yeah. Until recently, the largely unknown governor of North Dakota, but someone whose low maintenance, no drama personality would never threaten to outshine Trump. That was like he wanted that guy. He's like, this guy is just a frigging literally an empty suit. Like, that's what I want. That's kind of my thing. Did you see who I picked the first time around?
Starting point is 00:38:56 The guy let flies just chill on his head while I was talking. OK, that's how fucking disciplined my friends was. And so then the the article continues quote that's when donald trump jr and eric trump chimed in quote don jr and eric went bat shit crazy quote why would you do something so stupid he offers us nothing a longtime republican operative familiar with the discussion told nbc news they were quote they were basically all like jd, JD, JD, the operative said. And that was it. Boom.
Starting point is 00:39:27 He said, fine. Maybe my kids know something. Plus the tech people who were saying, hey, man, might give you a little more money if you bring this guy in, I think kind of sealed the deal. And that's how we now have JD Hillbilly Effigy Vance as the VP pick. And what a choice this has turned out to be because like we've seen jd vance is currently stinking it up out there on the campaign trail like that dude we touched on like this general repulsiveness as a person but we really didn't have a way of like measuring the stink like just how stinky are you j J.D. Vance, until now? This is, you're about to hear
Starting point is 00:40:07 from a CNN data analyst, data analyst, Harry Enten, talking about what the numbers look like after J.D. Vance was announced as the VP pick. Frankly, I don't really understand the pick, and apparently neither do the American voters, because we take a look at the net favorable rating for J.D. Vance. That's a favorable minus unfavorable. It's a negative net territory. Look at that. Negative six points. I will tell you, Aaron, I have gone all the way back since 1980. He is the first guy, after immediately following a convention, a VP pick, who actually had a net negative favorable rating that is underwater. The average since 2000 is plus 19 points. J.D. Vance making history in the completely wrong way. Wow. It's like his own people. We talked about this, too, when it was announced, right?
Starting point is 00:41:00 He underperformed like he underperformed in Ohio as a Republican. He was actually the worst performing Republican in the 2022 election. Like Mike DeWine, who is running for governor. He he underperformed 10 points from the Republican governor was at the top of the ticket that somehow people in his own state were like, I don't know, dude. Not this fucking guy. I don't know. We'll see. Or I'm just going to vote for him. So he's
Starting point is 00:41:25 definitely having some issues with likability now again i'm not convinced like this is fatal for the trump campaign but i think it just confirms that it seems like all of us are seeing the same thing like people fucking don't like this guy at all and i think and it's like a lot of people say especially like the hillbilly elegy thing has kind of hurt i don't know this guy at all and i think and it's like a lot of people say especially like the hillbilly elegy thing has kind of hurt i don't know how much that will actually hurt him truly but there are a lot of people like on tiktok like appalachia uh like based tiktok creators were like let me tell you why everyone fucking hates jd vance because it's like a carpet bagger he's from the ohio suburbs he's claiming appalachia these are
Starting point is 00:42:05 people who like trump and are like let me explain to you why this guy even then they make fun of him because he calls it appalachia and they're like bro you shouldn't be saying appalachia bro you're claiming this shit it should be appalachia right and so you know like while people who saw the movie were like jd vance oh wow the guy that made the movie with glenn close there are other people who are like oh fuck that guy that made the movie with glenn close that took a total shit on where i'm from carpetbagger ass motherfucker so it's you're dealing with a lot of different things and obviously his politics are fucking abhorrent and he's just like he's trumpy and a lot of people like this guy's guy's going to inherit the MAGA movement. But with the lack of likability, just even from his own side, I don't know. We'll see where this goes.
Starting point is 00:42:52 But didn't he also, it seems like there was an error in the calculus there because he clearly, he's like what, 39? Something like that, late 30s. So first off, that's crazy for the Republican Party. So maybe the idea was, you know, like injecting the young blood. Yeah, no, they need to stick to their plan of literally doing that. Getting a young person to be your blood bag and literally inject it. That's worked for you guys for a hundred years. Why switch up and try and figuratively inject the young blood? Because they're the party of innovative ideas. That's right. I don't know, man. The thing that's crazy about it is, I suspect that this was a pick. It went to the last minute, right? It was a pick that
Starting point is 00:43:39 was meant or calculated to be a good response toward a Biden-Harris ticket. But now that's not a thing that's happening. So I wouldn't be, I feel like the Trump campaign is probably going, damn, someone check the law. Can we do take backsies on VPs? Yeah. I mean, this, as, as if, if he continues to be like this, I can only,
Starting point is 00:44:04 I feel like that becomes more and more of a possibility it's so funny they're like crazy dude we just printed out three million fucking trump fans sign print them out i don't give a shit this guy's a loser did you say print them unprint those out unprint them just do command do command z on the keyboard. Unprint them in. Command Z, undo, undo. So there's also a vile, slanderous rumor going around that he fucked a glove and wrote about it in his book, Hillbilly Elegy, which was, it's so, like, he just, he was so trained by the mainstream media. His whole hillbilly elegy thing was just him trying to write his story for the liberal Democrat voter. That seemed to be whose eyes he created his image in. And so that's why I was like, you know, I could see him writing a thing about how he tried to fucking glove those stuff into a couch cushion. Because it's
Starting point is 00:45:09 art. It's literature. It's art. He's trying to be literary. The glove is America, you guys. In many ways. Forgotten betwixt our couch cushions. It stems from a joke social media, it stems from a joke social media post that claimed that part of Hillbilly Elegy describes how he shoved his dick into an inside-out latex glove shoved between two couch cushions.
Starting point is 00:45:33 The way it's written, though, is perfect misinformation tweet. It's to say, this is what the tweet was, can't say for sure, but he might be the first VP pick to have admitted in a New York Times bestseller to fucking an inside out latex glove shoved between two couch cushions. Then he does a parenthetical citation. Vance, comma, hillbilly elegy. Pages 179 to 181. Beautiful. Just the confidence of putting the citation there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Really? Because nobody owns that book anymore. Everybody who bought that and read it has now thrown it out unless you're like really invested in like like books that are just dunking on like poor people like that and you're like yeah that's why i don't know the only person who could really be our unexpectedly heroic fact checker there is someone from the glove or couch cushion fucking community yes they would come out and they would be like, stolen valor, bro.
Starting point is 00:46:28 Yeah. I don't believe it. No, this ain't it. I do. The big question is, do people know that it's a fake story? And does Donald Trump know that it's a fake story? Because this feels like the sort of thing,
Starting point is 00:46:43 he is not a sophisticated consumer of media like this motherfucker has heard this and has believed it and at the very least is like oh okay he didn't write it in the book but i don't know he seems like he might do it seems like the sort of sort of thing that he might do you know something i noticed the gloves were missing from the first aid kit in the bathroom so i wonder what that's about i don't know i think i think what's great about this is that it shows you how much people don't fuck they don't fucking like jd vance like it doesn't even matter that this is so blatantly made up they're like i don't know dude he looked my feeling towards him is that he's
Starting point is 00:47:20 a latex glove banging dude that's what feel. That's what his whole energy gives me and you know, it's like when like people were like, yeah, dude, Ted Cruz is like the Zodiac killer. It just shows like if people don't like you like they're willing to fucking just believe that shit, even though it doesn't matter. And I think that must be true. I mean, it's it's wild
Starting point is 00:47:39 how much this joke has continued on the internet. Yeah, I see it mentioned constantly like I see it mentioned constantly. Like, I see it mentioned constantly. Like, just in follow-ups to, like, serious reporting about his lack of popularity, people being like, and you forgot to mention that he fucked that
Starting point is 00:47:55 couch. Like, that's because, yeah. I think it's also... How dare you call yourself journalist? Yeah, exactly. Um, hello? Have you seen this one video that was blowing up on Twitter about Vance looking at couches? It's like pushing in on his face and then pushing in on couches with Barry White playing. And then just like, when it shows his face, him going, oh. Oh, look at that.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Oh, what's this couch leather? Couches get like increasingly more dilapidated. Yeah, man. And it doesn't even matter. People just fucking like when you when you aren't liked enough, it doesn't matter what's true. And I think that's just that's just that's just the rules of our Internet and the way we communicate with each other. our internet and our yeah the way we communicate with each other the person who initially posted the thing immediately after posted something along the lines of or the um post where you're like what would it's not like somebody would actually go on the internet and tell lies right right so it's
Starting point is 00:49:01 yeah the they were not even trying to hide it but the shit just took off yeah yeah i think it's, yeah, they were not even trying to hide it, but the shit just took off. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's from, what's that PBS, the Aardvark, Albert? Arthur? Arthur. Arthur, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's from the Arthur cartoon.
Starting point is 00:49:17 It says, you really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies. Yeah. He knew what he was doing but also he switched sides didn't he because wasn't he a prominent or he had made public statements criticizing donald trump yeah he called him back in the day they can call it or i think who jd van heroin yeah yeah yeah no his whole thing was he was originally during the rise of, he was the like authority for how do we explain that people would vote for Trump? Like that was the main like conundrum that people in the mainstream media seemed to have after Trump got elected.
Starting point is 00:49:58 They were like, who are these people and what could possibly be motivating? Right. He's like, I got this. My great grandfather was from Kentucky. I live in the Ohio suburbs, but allow me to break this down. You're like, what? Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk conspiracy theories. Hey, I'm Gianna Pardenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline,
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Starting point is 00:53:41 Mm. No. So the right is embracing a second shooter conspiracy theory around the attempted assassination of donald trump it's just the other day it was kamala that was behind okay yeah now it's a second show okay okay got it got it got it basically a soft reboot of the grassy knoll theory there's just something about the human brain, and I have my theories, but we immediately crave a second shooter. Right. This is the thing. It's the first conspiracy theory on JFK. It's the first conspiracy theory on RFK.
Starting point is 00:54:27 episode of the show on the media from a number of years back during an especially like horrifying time of like mass shootings where they were like okay here are the rules for reporting on a mass shooting and they're like the first thing everybody is going to tell you there are multiple shooters inside and it's extremely rare that that's the case but believe me there are going to be reports there's just like something about the chaos of a shooting and i think maybe something inside us that doesn't want to believe that like one stupid person can cause all that damage just there's like something that boggles the human mind about the fact that guns exist. You know? It's like, that shouldn't be the fucking case.
Starting point is 00:55:09 That's awful. Wait, what's the second shooter with the... I didn't know there was a second... Wasn't he shot in the kitchen of the hotel? With RFK? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was...
Starting point is 00:55:21 Yeah, there's just a lot of people who think it can't... They don't want it to just be one... Sirhan Sirhan? Yeah. Well, Sirhan But it was, yeah, there's just a lot of people who think it can't, they don't want it to just be one. Sirhan Sirhan? Well, Sirhan Sirhan also, we did a thing on him recently. He has maintained his innocence for many years now. And he keeps applying for parole. But the people who believe the second shooter thing in there get really close to ideas of like a brainwashing or Manchurian candidate. Yeah, because he says he doesn't remember doing it, right?
Starting point is 00:55:48 Or that was what he said initially. But then there's also like there's a woman in a polka dot dress who is like a security guard. Yeah, that's weird. That's a big RFK Jr. conspiracy that he put out there. He's usually right about these things.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Yeah, when he has a hunch, when he has a hunch, you go with what RFK says. Yeah, sorry. I just wanted to clarify that because I just thought it was pretty straightforward just from what I had seen.
Starting point is 00:56:14 But I underestimated the internet and humans. The current second shooter theories seem to differ on this particular attempted assassination. Some think that Crooks was a patsy and the water tower guy who we're about to be introduced to was there to silence him afterward.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Even though I don't know why you need to create a water tower guy to do that since we already know that there were two snipers who did that. Like we know where they were why do you need water tower guy to do the shooting like we already know that that happened that he took the shots and then was silenced you don't need to create a second shooter well there's no judgment of brainstorming right exactly guys this is a safe zone to throw out ideas exactly come on man it's blue sky let's blue sky this thing, man.
Starting point is 00:57:05 That is exactly what is happening to this story. The other theory, and this is the one that I'm like, okay, we have a winner here. Let's run with this writer's room. Suggested that the second shooter was an expert marksman who could convincingly graze Trump's ear and provide a bloody show for a false flag operation. Oh, God. So many people have said that to me. Yeah. Like within hours of the news, hours of the event. That at least gives the second shooter a reason to exist because the first version of the second
Starting point is 00:57:36 shooter theory doesn't make sense because, again, we know where the people were who did that. They were doing their job. You don't need a second shooter to do that. The problem, of course, with the logic of a second shooter who is so good that they can just, like, put the bullet within, like, a micrometer of... Like, it is that you probably wouldn't put that person, like, way the fuck up on a water tower. You know, when an updraft could kill the person
Starting point is 00:58:07 that you're trying to, like, stage a fun photo shoot for. A momentary turn of the head cannot be accounted for unless you, like, choreograph it. Yes. Yeah. Seems, also, my main issue with this
Starting point is 00:58:22 is that the photographic evidence that this theory stems from shows a they claim it shows a figure on the tower. If you look at photos of the tower and even like the screen caps that those people are using, it is blatantly like just the top. But there's like a part of the tower that you can like see in every picture of this tower. Like the little nipple on top of the water tower is supposed to be a guy? I think they're saying the nipple on top of the water tower. Look again, this is my city boy description of a water, like the nipple on top of the thing.
Starting point is 00:58:59 Well, no, like all water towers, like when a human makes a vaguely orb shaped construction it is imperative that they give it a little nipple because people who build and design stuff are incredibly horny so yeah oh so it's basically the shadow that's created from the sun being on the other side of that structure they're saying that the shadow there's like a little dark blur next to the nipple oh yeah dude that's dude, that's Bigfoot. That's Bigfoot. I was thinking of saying, I mean, Bigfoot, bro. It's like a Bigfoot-level photograph.
Starting point is 00:59:32 And it's so grainy. I received somebody saying it was the top of the, again, I love the terminology we're using, the top of the nipple to the right. But then someone else said, if you look down just above the tree line, and like that could be kind of a person standing. It could be a branch. Who's like used magnets to stick themselves to the side of the thing? Because they're not on the, yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:59:57 So a superhero went up, that makes sense then. Now I'm back on board. A crack team of cryptids magnet people and uh well you know what why stop at a second shooter this is the thing where it starts to get frustrated with this like why not just have a whole daisy chain of these you know there's a third shooter to take out the second shooter and then also like if i'm doing a false flag like that i'll be like yo okay so the secret service agent wrestling style is gonna cut your ear with a blade when they come to get you and then you will emerge with blood on your face that's the that's the most efficient way without being like
Starting point is 01:00:34 yo dude if you fuck this shot up and dome him this is gonna be a problem bro you will not get your check like i don't think but yeah that's fine whatever sure third fourth fifth shooter that's exactly it that that's exactly and there are you know there are serious things that there are serious missteps or anomalies but the question is could those be explained by incompetence or miscommunication on the other part of the secret service because the director, I think, just got just, oh, she resigned. Yeah. Okay. I don't think
Starting point is 01:01:12 that was a, the resignation was her idea, but this kind of thing. She got resigned. Yeah. There it is. You've been resigned. Why did Arnold call me to say that? That AOC impression was awesome. You've been erased.
Starting point is 01:01:28 So do you think this will persist? These kind of, I see them only growing. Yeah. These kind of tails as, as they get closer to. I think if, if Trump wins, I feel like the Mueller time mug sipper people will definitely start going all in on this and try to find a way to say like this is what changed everything because that was sort of like the big pearl clutchy response from a lot of people like it's over dude yeah that was it they got that photo and i'm like i don't know if that sure um but part of me was also like i'm also don't i don't believe in america's capacity
Starting point is 01:02:01 to stay focused on this one thing, especially during election season. Like, that's the thing, like that somehow even something like this will become tired news to people and they're going to have to move on. Well, that's a sign that the version of events that actually happened, which is this guy who had to Google what Donald Trump looked like before he did this. Trump looked like before he did this. He was that much of a politically motivated actor that he didn't know what either Donald Trump or Joe Biden looked like. That version of the story
Starting point is 01:02:32 has died. And so now you need to workshop it to create the version of the story that is going to live on on the internet. Yeah, I don't think that's going anywhere. But it will metastasize in the dark and become weirder and weirder unfortunately that's the perfect word metastasize
Starting point is 01:02:51 because also to the the earlier excellent point about the possibility of a false flag operation you ideally would not want to use live fire right because yeah it's for sure make this impossible lottery level shot right uh yeah or mess it up and then you're never part of an operation. You just die before you get to trial. because he was the worst shooter that had ever applied. And they were like, it's literally unsafe for you to even be holding a gun in the vicinity of people. Hey, could you do this false flag operation for us and graze the ear of the president? Or just be shooting live rounds around the head of the president? That would be the former president. It's an interesting plan that yeah this relies on i feel like it's really i think people are really gonna forget about this just like i don't know i
Starting point is 01:03:52 don't know why it's like i don't know i don't even know what the legs this thing has somehow in the year of our lord 2024 well we've really our muscle memory when it comes to forgetting about mass shooters who just want to be famous is like we have that muscle. We've been working that muscle for decades. Decades. Yeah. Yeah. That's as one of our greatest superpowers as Americans is to just ignore people wanting to be famous, taking an AR-15 and trying to make a name for it's called selective humanity yes a uniquely american trait that's yeah yeah yeah so it's probably gonna keep going
Starting point is 01:04:34 those are the reasons i think it's probably bullshit it's the fact that it's so predictable is pretty wild it's just like yeah so they're about to say it's a there's gonna be a second shooter and then like i in fact i would have said that and then i was like but there's obviously second shooters like we see the snipers in the videos behind him like there's snipers posted up everywhere you wouldn't need to create a second shooter and yet it could be one of them right yeah they're like what what about the water tower guy all right and then finally i i do just want to talk about skibbity toilet let's actually talk about real national security let's get back to the important shit it was announced that uh skibbity toilet the youtube animation of a singing head popping out of a toilet that spawned a web series that is now like one of the most popular things ever invented
Starting point is 01:05:26 like i was saying i think before we started recording but it it's it it's basically the future terminator war like the at the beginning of t2 judgment day like it looks like that except instead of there being terminators like the the robots versus humans it is human body tv heads versus toilet body human heads that that is the war that is being carried out and the lore like it's if you had told me after seeing the 11 second clip of the skibbity toilet like the person singing the song for 11 seconds with their head popping out of the toilet if you told me that that off of the back of that the creator of that was going to try to launch a massive like lore filled cinematic universe on youtube i would be like okay so the first video has 100 million views and then everything
Starting point is 01:06:26 else that they launch to try and exploit the first video is going to have like 32 views and i would be wrong the lore has so many views it is incredibly popular are you gonna make a version am i gonna make a version of skibbity toilet yeah i mean i don't have to the internet has done it for me i have nothing to add here but it does make me like i i fully can't figure this one out like how how the story works how like what the appeal is but paramount pictures, yeah, the character, exactly. Former Paramount Pictures president, Adam Goodman, has said there are plans to make a skibbity toilet,
Starting point is 01:07:13 the next Transformers or Marvel universe. He said that Michael Bay has been working hard to quote, professionalize the kind of back engine of this. So what is it like a transformer? Like, do they have an engine on their back? Wait, what are we talking about? I think he means, like, make it palatable for a wider audience.
Starting point is 01:07:32 I think he's probably talking about, like, the engine, like, because it all appears to be done, like, inside, like, a video game engine of some sort, right? Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, like, based off, like, a Half-Life 2 mod or something. Yeah, okay. I thought it meant maybe figuring this is pretentious, but figuring out, yeah, yeah. It's based off a Half-Life 2 mod or something. Yeah, okay. I thought it meant maybe figuring,
Starting point is 01:07:48 this is pretentious, but figuring out the story editing, the story Bible, you know what I mean? Right, yeah. How do we spin this off? But who is Skivity's mother? Right. And what does that tell us?
Starting point is 01:08:02 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Toilet baby, yeah. Toilet baby, J. okay. Vance wishes he was. Yeah. There we go. I got to tell you that when, when you're first telling me about this off air, cause I just learned about this.
Starting point is 01:08:12 I thought you were, I thought you guys were doing like, no offense, but your typical dry humor kind of thing. I didn't know. I didn't know about shit like that. I know. hold on one second Ben what the fuck are you talking about
Starting point is 01:08:27 I crossed a line I didn't know that's how it was being taken I'm saying stuff really earnestly all the time My humor is fucking drenched Bro My humor is so wet My humor is so wet right now My humor is so wet right now
Starting point is 01:08:43 Wait so you thought we were just doing a weird bit? I didn't want to interfere. I was like, this might be kind of like one of their things they're just warming up for. They're kind of losing it this election year. I'll just let it happen. Well, they've finally gone insane. Yeah. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:09:05 Now it's real. This this has also I mean, a Swedish news outlet claimed that this was Russian propaganda aimed at indoctrinating children. And what's the indoctrination exactly? Yeah. What what messages are you trying to get at here? Yeah. I think a lot of it is just children do find toilets very funny and it's oh yeah there's a massive like i i didn't realize until i think i
Starting point is 01:09:33 read that psycho the the movie psycho alfred hitchcock's psycho that is the first time that a toilet was ever shown on film and people are like oh my god really showed a toilet was ever shown on film. And people are like, oh my God. Really? They showed a toilet on film? Wow. You know what happens there, right? Yeah, because like there's just a, I think there's like a rule of thumb that you like try not to show toilets. You try not to show,
Starting point is 01:10:00 it's just, it reminds people of nasty stuff that they don't think about that reminds people that we're animals i think like how in those old school tv family sitcoms the parents would inexplicably sleep in twin beds on opposite sides of the room yeah yeah no shame if that's i mean but yeah i i think they the guy who invented it, this Russian dude, I mean, it's literal toilet humor. And kids love that. So I feel like he may have had something, even though I think, yeah, many people are now like, what the fuck is this? Yeah. It's just the children crave toilet humor.
Starting point is 01:10:43 That shouldn't be a surprise to anybody. But the degree to which it immediately became abstracted into like Lord of the Rings level lore. Yeah. Like turned into a fucking massive fight between good and evil. Interesting. And this is just kind of what the Internet's all about. It feels like but like, you know, we always talk about how films are developed and it's just like there's like no thought going into what are like what kind of ip they're going to develop or what kind of films are going to be
Starting point is 01:11:13 made and it feels so much like this like one of these studio people's like my grandson keeps saying skibbity yeah exactly and then i was at a at a, I was at a, I was at the grocery store. I heard other kids saying Skibity, like, this is like the new Pogs, I think. And I know, and I know the great Pogs movie. I know, I know the Pogs movie did terribly, but I think we might have something here with Skibity without like really understood, like, like it's just purely, I think just being like the kids like it make that a movie now will that will that actually be the same thing will that come off as the same product to the kids that they're trying to bring it because certainly they're not going to make it so like we want fucking gen xers millennials all everybody to get invested
Starting point is 01:12:01 in the skibbity toilet universe like i just don't think that's possible or feasible. I think you've outlined the process so well because it's the same kind of weird, mad lib approach to creativity that ended up in the Emoji movie, right? There was some guy who was like, you know, they call us executive producers, but really we're disruptors.
Starting point is 01:12:26 I've received an interesting phenomenon in texting with my missus. Right. With my girlfriend. I mean, my wife of 20 years. You know, 12 years ago, 12 years ago, someone was pitching meme the movie. Yeah. You know what I mean? Not understanding like how
Starting point is 01:12:45 it's relevant or what like what is making it entertaining to people and it's just so like it's so abstract and like a lot of it is like just sort of this nostalgia for like old machinima like video game animations that were like in the like like 2000s i don't know there's got to be a whole industry's worth of like 20 year old interns who this summer are just being frantically put to work by every movie studio. Just like write a fucking dissertation report on Skibbity Toilet. Like, what does any of this mean? Exactly. Make it seem like there's a book that explains Skibity and make it seem like I read it.
Starting point is 01:13:25 Yes, exactly. And then read it back to me. I'm going to see it. Like, I'm just going to ask chat GPT to pitch me a cinematic universe based on Skibity toilet and just see what that does really quick. Never mind. It autocorrected Skibity to libido toilet. And now it's giving me a completely different idea. So no judgment. Well, actually,ibbity to libido toilet, and now it's giving me a completely different idea. No judgment embraced.
Starting point is 01:13:46 Well, actually, let's see what libido toilet is. Libido toilet is just very specific. Offbeat series of films that blends comedy, sci-fi, and fantasy. At its core, the libido toilet cinematic universe revolves around a series of seemingly ordinary toilets that, unbeknownst to the general public, possess mysterious and powerful abilities linked to human emotions and desires okay love you know toilet so it's like love potion number nine yeah yeah number two yeah yeah there you go that's that's my favorite piece of media libido toilet let's kick down the fucking doors at paramount i wonder how many parents have tried to do that and be like trying to send some
Starting point is 01:14:25 scabity shit to like their kids on text and like autocorrects to libido. Like how many kids have seen libido toilet errantly from like someone trying to be young. Libido toilet. What the fuck is a libido? Is libido a town in Ohio? That's Toledo. Ben,
Starting point is 01:14:44 what a pleasure having you as always. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Well, you can find me bugging Jack and Miles on Twitter, which I believe we've collectively agreed not to call X, where I'm at Appenbolin. Appenbolin Instagram. I did the horrible vanity plate thing, and now I'm benbolin.com.
Starting point is 01:15:07 You can find it there. Stuff there I want you to know to learn more about critical thinking and conspiracies, ridiculous history, to learn more about, you know, if you heard that orphan train that we were talking about at the top and you thought,
Starting point is 01:15:19 my afternoon is going too well. I do need some to take it down a notch and check out our episode there yeah amazing uh is there a work of media that you've been enjoying aside from the new cinematic universe of libido toilet i've actually been i i saw an australian spy thriller series called secret city on netflix and it was one of those things, I don't know how you guys treat Netflix, but usually it's in the background for me if I'm cooking or something, because I'm thinking like, I already paid for this. I am going to use it.
Starting point is 01:15:56 Might as well pollute the audio environment of my home with it. I'm wasting money by not having it on right now. Okay. Yeah. You guys see me shaking my fist. I'm wasting money by not having it on right now. and you like something that isn't the same cookie cutter, true crime or political thriller that we would get from US-based stuff, then this one I think is a very interesting contrast to that. I haven't finished it. If I get to the end and it's terrible,
Starting point is 01:16:38 I will post a public apology. Miles, where can people find you? Is there a work of media you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter Instagram at miles of gray Check Jack and I out on the Basketball podcast Miles and Jack on my boosties
Starting point is 01:16:54 And if you like 90 day fiance catch me talking about that On 420 day fiance The tweet I like Is from At B Mycelis who's one of the people Who founded Midas Touch like that, you know, like liberal like they put out a lot of like content and news clips and stuff and just general reporting about what's happening in the country. But from a very Democrat side perspective, he tweeted, quote, Aside from all the pro Kamala content, the other thing people seem to be posting on TikTok areok are videos of jd vance with pictures of couches set to romantic music what is this about keep the conversation going it will never end it will never end and then uh andrew t uh was
Starting point is 01:17:39 supposed to be on the show uh earlier this week but was out But he tweeted Honestly you can't pick the most couch Fucking ass looking guy of all time As your VP and then get mad at him For couch fucking That's great Alright a tweet I've been Enjoying Tommy Bayer tweeted woke up in the middle
Starting point is 01:18:01 Of the night to write this down And it is a screencap from his notes app. Babies and strollers on a racetrack getting the diapers changed really fast by NASCAR guys. A shit stop, if you will. Yeah, a little shit stop. Miles, you are on fire as always. I feel like I've done something so similar to that you guys ever just like write stuff down in your dreams and you're like there solved it i'm gonna this is this is going to i'm i'm immediately
Starting point is 01:18:34 like i should wake up and immediately book myself on some stand-up circuit because this is going to murder and it just doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Yes. God, the drugs that your brain dumps into itself or that your body dumps into your brain when you're going to sleep are so good. They're so good. Thank you. Thank you, brain chemicals. You can find me on
Starting point is 01:18:58 Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. As well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do you think people might enjoy?
Starting point is 01:19:17 Again, one of my favorite Canadian bands, Bad Bad Not Good. They teamed up with the artist Turnstyle for this track called Alien Love Call. And again, a nice groover. They're fantastic on their instruments. The vocals are fantastic. I mean, obviously, they're just an instrumental band. So when they team up with vocalists and sort of blend their musical styles,
Starting point is 01:19:35 it's always a delight. So allow this to be your Alien Love Call because that's the name of this track. Turnstyle with Bad, Bad, Not Good. All right. We will link off to that in the footnotes. Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio,
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