The Daily Zeitgeist - More Like BAEllionaire! Gerber Baby Conspiracies 4.12.22

Episode Date: April 12, 2022

In episode 1224, Jack and Miles are joined by actor and TV writer Dani Fernandez to discuss… Billionaire Digest, Why Would Anyone Want Their Baby To Be The “Gerber Baby” Right Now? ...And more! Linda Honey Video Elon Musk Will Not Join Twitter’s Board, Company Says How the ​​‘Homeless Billionaire’ Became a Philosopher King Why Would Anyone Want Their Baby To Be The “Gerber Baby” Right Now? The Untold Truth Of The Gerber Baby Manufacturers allowed baby food contaminated with heavy metals to remain on shelves, lawmakers say Parents Erupt Over FDA Failure To Regulate Toxic Metals in Food Groundbreaking legal battle seeks to show toxic metals in baby food can cause autism LISTEN: SubZero by Action BronsonSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:01 Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 232 episode 2 of your daily zeitgeist a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness is that still right all right cool same shit it's it's tuesday april 12th 2022 which of course means that it is national Grilled Cheese Sandwich Day. Yeah. Not to be confused with national just grilled cheese on a frying pan day. Grilled cheese skin. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:34 I made some of that yesterday by accident. I tried to make some cheeseburgers in a frying pan and it ended up with just a slop of grilled cheese without the sandwich also it's national only child day hey hey shouts to the the only children out there the lonely ones the lonely ones yeah but you know how i consider it everybody is my sibling yeah some of them yeah some of the best people in the world and some of the worst too and yeah it cuts both ways anyways my name is jack o'brien aka me and you drinking piss mixed with mount and do chewing on some trident gum coming up slamming nicorette gum that's courtesy of alex luke yeah we're still we're stillkey. Yeah, we're still drinking piss out here. We're still drinking
Starting point is 00:03:27 Mountain Dew. I've been gone for two weeks, but you know, I kept the tradition strong, and I am absolutely thrilled to be joined by, to see my co-host, Mr. Sorry, there's a guest in there
Starting point is 00:03:43 because you know I read everything on the prompter. Yeah, burgundy style. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, there's a guest in there because you know I read everything on the prompter. Well, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray! Jack! They don't love you like you love to, Jack.
Starting point is 00:03:59 They don't love you like you love to, Jack. Jack. Jack. Jack. Wait! Cause they don't love you like you love to jack jack jack jack wait because they don't love you like you love to okay shout out to old ghost on the discord for that yeah yeah yeah inspired aka because yeah so last week we learned that that song maps is now 19 years old. Just to kind of put your body through that fucking time machine real quick. I hate to say that to y'all. It's been 19 years since we were all singing that with tears in our eyes. So anyway, good to have you back though, man.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Oh, thank you. So good to be back. Do you ever see Yeah Yeah Yeahs live? Oh, yeah, yeah. I've seen them. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Only yeah, yeah?
Starting point is 00:04:42 Not yeah, yeah, yeah? No, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've seen them about three times, four times. I feel like that is the average for people in our sort of five-year age range. Yeah, I think I saw them two times, and I'm one under the average. Yeah, nope. It's like a two times minimum if you're like 35 plus, I feel like. I heard Gabrus talking about seeing them at mccarran park like back in
Starting point is 00:05:05 the day and i was like damn man i was at that show there's just a certain age age group of people right all and like when we were going to a lot of shows or festivals they were like mainstays so if you ever the chances were if you went to like a bigger festival they were also on the bill so you're always getting your Karen O fill. Yeah, yeah. Well, Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a very talented writer, host, actress, who you've seen in Sci-Fi's The Great Debate and Ralph Breaks the Internet. Oh, no big deal. Who's written for the CW's The Girls on the Bus, Netflix's Incarnate, and HBO Max's More.
Starting point is 00:05:43 The Girls on the Bus, Netflix's Incarnate, and HBO Max's More. She also co-authored stories about Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy for DC's upcoming Pride Month anthology. It is the brilliant, the hilarious Danny Fernandez! You'll get caught up in the Dan Fire, Dan Fire. Did y'all have that? I wanted that game so bad! Crossfire. Do you remember? That song has I wanted that game so bad. Crossfire. Do you remember that song has been stuck in my head for like 25 years? There was, oh man, this is so funny. There was this back in the era when like YouTube sketches were like our social currency. I remember there was a mockumentary about Crossfire that I thought was so funny funny it was about these guys who were lamenting that their friend had in fact got caught up in the crossfire
Starting point is 00:06:29 you don't recover from some shit like that you know i feel like i need to look up because i could have sworn they announced a film but i thought it was maybe just an onion article like making fun of all of the board games that they're making into films. Right. No, that also sounds strangely accurate. Let me see. Crossfire. Also, I want to say whoever gave you my credit was like,
Starting point is 00:06:54 we're going to make sure that everything she's ever done. I appreciate it. I want to say I really, really appreciate it. But I was like, oh my gosh. Who looked me up? You know what? to say i really really appreciate it but i was like oh my gosh who uh yeah you you who looked me up uh yeah you know what it's not it's not the crossfire we grew up with it's a different it's a video game so oh and not the tucker carlson paul bagala crossfire no which was loosely based on the board game i feel like crossfire that game which is not really a board game more
Starting point is 00:07:25 of a what do you even call those it was like it was like parlor game yeah it was like tabletop fun like it was like if hungry hungry hippos were setting you up to be more accepting of the military industrial complex that's right and you were probably more into like conservation if you played hungry hungry hippos yeah Yeah. Just get it. Secure the balls, you Hungry Hippos. That sounded weird. But Crossfire, I feel like, was one of the products that most lived up to its hype. I did get it.
Starting point is 00:08:00 I still remember my aunt and uncle who got it for me, like how old I was, the house we lived in, like just playing it. That shit was so dope. Sounds nice. Danny and I over here. Yeah, it must have been nice. That's great. Thank you. What would our lives, Danny would have probably, I mean, you're already doing well.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Shit, who knows? You probably would have been the fucking president if you got president. Look at that. If I had just gotten Crossfire. Yeah, exactly. Now I'm settling for creating really great comic book ip but fine i guess i'll take that wow yeah what could have been yeah yeah all right danny we are gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first
Starting point is 00:08:36 we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about we're talking about billionaires, baby. They're our newest rock star, or at least they want to be. So we got Elon Musk tanking and, you know, the Twitter stock living and dying with him. There was also like the New York Times Magazine was dedicated to billionaires. And it's all just a real head fuck for me. So I wanted to go through that. And then we're going to talk about the Gerber baby. All that. Plenty more. And also just Gerber baby food and how delicious it is.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Before we get to any of it, Danny, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? Oh, my gosh. Mine from my search history was twin flames, signs and numbers. I'm very into, are you aware of the concept of twin flames, Jack? Am I? Yeah. No, I'm not. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:33 You're into all these theories. I wasn't. No. It's a basically like your soulmate. Your twin flame is like basically your soulmate. And so I follow, I have like an app and, uh and not relating to soulmates, but just like basically looking out for signs when you're trying to manifest. So not just a soulmate. You guys are both making faces at me right now.
Starting point is 00:09:56 I'm trying to process what I'm hearing. I'm reading. I'm reading up on it. Well, the concept of a twin flame, basically your other half, like the person that you're meant to be with. To me, I feel like I've done so much healing at a point that I don't want anyone that isn't like at the same level as me. For sure. They'll probably just be alone forever. See, not if you talk like that. See, now you're messing up your… I'm kidding. I'm kidding. But anyways, I'm very into signs and numbers and i see them all the time like i was taking a flight and the flight
Starting point is 00:10:30 it was a it was going to land it was three hours and 33 minutes and like it left at 3 33 it was like very fascinating like stuff like that i screenshot it all the time the car in front of me the license plate had 777. And on the podcast I was listening to, they were literally like, and you divide it by 777. And I was just like, they were talking about NFTs or some shit. And it happened like right when I was looking at it. So I'm very into that. That is an insight into my head.
Starting point is 00:11:01 I had a weird thing where I was watching Nightmare Alley with Bradley Cooper while also watching. So I was watching that on my phone while the NCAA tournament was on. And at one point, the movie synced up with the game. And it was North Carolina. It was the second round when they were playing Baylor and they both said Hubert at the same time because that was the coach of UNC and that was also a
Starting point is 00:11:33 character's name in Nightmare Alley and I was like fuck it I'm betting it all on UNC like I don't I didn't have the follow-through but I wish I had because UNC went to the title game, even though they were like a nine seed. But I was like, man, sometimes this shit really like. Thank you. Like I don't. They were trying to help you. Yeah. I don't believe in it, but like sometimes I'm like, but I mean, come on.
Starting point is 00:11:57 That shit. So something happened there. Gave you a good feeling. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, when you're sports betting, you need signs. Yeah. Yeah. I'll take signs that don't even make sense i'm like that's a sign so i'm gonna put all this money here yeah and hopefully that'll change my future sports is where i engage in the sort
Starting point is 00:12:16 of magical thinking that i make fun of in like republicans where i'm just like, yeah, like I will believe the wildest shit. Like your Sixers hat? What? No, the Sixers hat actually works. That is empirically proven that when I wear my Sixers hat, they lose. So I just don't wear it. They are going to lose in the first round, but that's okay. I feel you. We got Abraham Hicks over here.
Starting point is 00:12:49 So I don't want to get off of twin flames because i think that is a beautiful concept does that does twin flames mean that there's only one or like is philosophically can you have multiple okay so i personally believe that you have multiple soul mates but they're not there for your entire life there's something also kind of like someone who's supposed to help you karmically get to where you're supposed to. So like, let's say, yeah. Or even if you dated someone and it like ended horribly, but you learned a lot of things and you were like, well, I know now what I don't want and I'm not going to settle for that. Or I'm not, you know, or something that spurred you into like, fuck it. I'm going to finally sit down and do this work and hold myself accountable and whatever to actually find the person that I want to find, then you find to me, your twin flame. Now, if you're someone listening like that'll never fucking happen, then yeah,
Starting point is 00:13:35 it'll never fucking happen. I totally believe in those things. If you're, I don't know if you all saw my tweet. It was my wishing wall. It was like from 2013 2013 it was almost a decade ago I had made a little wishing walls I lived in an apartment with two other girls in a one bedroom we were so poor we were definitely the one of them was a musician and we were very much like we're gonna make it with stars in our eyes and whatever and so we all had a wishing wall we wrote down what we wanted and on my wishing wall it said to write television to get a literary agent it was like all of the things on my wall came true yeah and i firmly believe if i were like this will never happen it wouldn't happen you have to like you have to like radically believe that it'll happen you have to like
Starting point is 00:14:19 almost stupidly that's why we see so many stupid people out here doing well i mean because you just stupidly fully believe that they can and they do yeah intention setting is like very very important because it really does it sets you up in your subconscious to begin to be focusing on something like you know i was i've i've tried to set intentions like that of like there's something different when you put pen to paper too yes when you write write something out to say, I am going to do this rather than talking shit, like I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna do it. There's just something that happens when you sort of intentionally sort of begin to express those things. So yeah, I feel like you
Starting point is 00:14:55 got to got to set your intentions. And yeah, to your point, perception is reality at the end of the day. So if you are out here saying, you know, believe that everything's not going to go your way, you're typically probably going to be existing in a reality where you're focused on all the things that aren't going your way when they could be actually going your way. But it's really just about how you're setting your perception up. But yeah, it's a confirmation bias. If you think like everything always goes wrong for me, we could all every single day name all the things that go wrong for us. We just don't often. could all every single day name all the things that go wrong for us. We just don't often, it takes work to focus on the things that are going well and to try to like map those out and accumulate
Starting point is 00:15:29 those. And over time, even me, I'm so past those goals now. Now, when I look back, when I found that in like a bunch of paperwork I had, I was like, oh my God, these are not my goals at all. And I feel small because I accomplished them years ago, but this was my huge goals and dreams. So I think we just never look back at our old goals and realize that we did achieve several of them. Yeah, right. And give yourself some props, too, for that. I'm impressed that you use magical thinking
Starting point is 00:15:55 to achieve your life's goals, and I used it to almost make a bet on North Carolina Tar Heels that I didn't make, and they didn't even win the title. Anyways, what is something you think is overrated? Yeah, we all know this, but I just feel like I need to say this. Playing devil's advocate, I still see it so much. It's so not necessary. The devil doesn't need advocates. And also, I feel like anytime someone engages with me to play devil's advocate, I feel they get to walk away. And it's not something that I get to walk away from. A lot of times it's my identity or issues that, you know, queer women of color are going through that I'll be speaking about. And then that person's like, well, to play devil's advocate, you know, even liberals. I'm telling you, liberals and even people in the queer community, specifically white queer people, I feel like often do that to me.
Starting point is 00:16:47 And it's just like that's a game a lot of times that you get to walk away from that normally the person that you're playing with doesn't get to. It's like I'm just wearing an asshole shaped costume right now and I will do my asshole in this. But then I will shed that and I'll go on with my day and I'll be like well no that was just me wearing a costume back there playing devil's advocate um yeah because i mean i think the only times it may be constructive is if you're maybe bringing up like the one point people are avoiding where that sentiment comes out where you're expressing it but not in the sense of like the most hardcore thing of being like let me completely contradict your point and speak it as fact under the guise of playing devil's advocate. But yeah, that's that's true.
Starting point is 00:17:28 That's when you do that. It does give you like sort of a temporary identity as a piece of shit if you want to on social media. And there's also just so much like, you know, violence like with with words on social media that it like you need to really trust someone to like have that conversation. I think when when it's somebody who is like you, you've earned the right to have that conversation. That's fine. If like you're at a place where you could be like, all right, I'm going to say this, but I don't mean it. And like very clear boundaries are set ahead of time. But it's just the internet and social media have like fucked it up for you to just be able to come in fucking half-cocked and
Starting point is 00:18:11 just be like yo like what if i said this i was like well you just said that and that's her no i'm saying what if no it's not hypothetical my favorite is when people are like well if i said that i would be in trouble i'm like you, you would. Good thing that I said it. I'm like, good thing you didn't say it. You're right. So you're somewhat smart enough to understand what's going on here. But I'm just saying. What's something you think is underrated?
Starting point is 00:18:36 I love that I'm being serious because normally my answers are like, a goofy movie. Good burger. Which I still think are Batman and Robin robin i also want to say underrated um underrated not here i'm on it i'm on a kick today y'all so thank you for giving this platform not replying to tweets that don't relate to you like i feel so many times people will tweet me we're talking about me i will just say me me. I'll tweet something. I'm like, for those that this resonates with, and then I'll have something about hanging in or writing or writer's block or whatever. And people will respond and be like, not for me though. And I'm like, there's literally the first part of the sentence says, for those this resonates with. I put it on the front of like so many of my tweets so people don't respond to me.
Starting point is 00:19:27 And I think it's societal. I don't think it's just Twitter, although I think that that adds to it. But like, for the love of God, you have such limited time on this planet. Like, just keep scrolling. If I can impart something to you this week, instead of arguing, like just fucking keep scrolling. It's exhausting being on this planet. Like you don't need to. Jackie, look. Your look on your face. I'm done.
Starting point is 00:19:54 That is my thing. Underrated. Keeping your thoughts to yourself. Texting about it. He's like, damn, I could have some replies. Hey, babe. Sorry. That's what I do. Texting. texting about he's like damn i could have some replies i could have hey babe sorry yeah it's there i mean like to that point there's just something like when people do shit like that you're like why do you why do you think you need my attention in this situation
Starting point is 00:20:19 or why are you because that's what it is you're trying to be like hey hi hi hi hi me the person this isn't resonating with just want to let you know not resonating with me yeah Because that's what it is. You're trying to be like, hey, hi, hi, hi, hi. Me, the person this isn't resonating with. Just want to let you know, not resonating with me. Yeah, that's what they do. Yeah. I have a completely different view on this because it doesn't resonate with me. So I have no idea what the thrust of your point is. Just wanted to come here to say that. Also, I'm very alone. OK, moving on. Yeah. I mean, so many people you talk to in person you can tell are waiting for their turn to talk right yeah aren't really listening to what you're saying and i feel like that is that instinct writ large across social media right is like them just being like that
Starting point is 00:20:56 gave me a completely different idea and this is where i'm gonna put it and because i admire this person and i i'm too close to realize this idea doesn't like apply to them or really have that much value yeah i'm just like you know i think we're all very lonely too like a lot of people on social media just social media has made us very lonely and so like that's just like looking for that spark of connection in a extremely misguided way. Yeah, there's a whole thing to for me, though, about accountability, where it's just like, so much shit is dumped on me constantly. I feel like I have a big platform. And I'm constantly trying to pull people up. You know, speaking on my own experience of the shit that I've gone through,
Starting point is 00:21:42 and how I survived it and got out of it. And I talk about that a lot and I feel like people just I cannot pull up people also that don't want to be pulled up that aren't ready to be you know what I mean it's like when I was in the thick of it it's like fuck you don't say that to me don't know I don't have any hope but like that's why I started to start my tweets that way is like for for whoever needs to hear this clearly it's not you you're not there yet you don't want to hear it. You don't, whatever. So I encourage you to keep scrolling past this because there is someone out there
Starting point is 00:22:12 who needs to hear it in that moment. Going back to signs, sometimes I'll open Twitter. Literally had this happen where I was like spiraling off my ass, having a really hard time. And I just, I asked for a specific sign, open Twitter.
Starting point is 00:22:24 And it was like, it was like right there was the first tweet. And so sometimes people do. It's like Luke Cage is following you. What? You're like, oh shit. It was a wolf. That's one of my signs is a wolf. And I have wolves. I actually, I'll have to show you on our break. I have wolves all over my place. And I have a Tex Avery wolf, very, his iconic iconic like big mouth with his like beating heart uh wolf lamp right next to me but anyways i i was having a really hard time really
Starting point is 00:22:53 hard time got some like really bad news and i asked to see a wolf i opened twitter and chase mitchell uh who's a writer he had randomly in the middle of summer tweeted a video of a wolf. And it was the first thing I saw. And I remember thinking like, fuck, now I got to hang in. God damn it. Fucking wolf. Get out of here. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Go on, get. Get out of here, yeller. You get. It feels like, you know, what people look like when they chime in on a thing where you're very clearly setting up with the caveat. If this resonates with you, that's like somebody walking into like a church and be like, just so you know, I'm not Catholic. So whatever's going on in here doesn't apply to me. I'm not interested. And thank you.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Okay. Please go on with whatever y'all are doing here on this Sunday morning. I will take my leave. You're like, what the fuck was that for? You just had to keep it moving. You know what I mean? That's what you had to do. Yes. Damn.
Starting point is 00:23:52 That far away look in my eye, by the way, that you were like, what is it? I was just realizing I have to watch Batman and Robin now. So good. Okay. I always avoided it. The Joel Schumacher Batman and Robin? Yeah. Is that right? Yeah. Isn't joel schumacher yeah yeah is that right yeah yeah george clooney yeah yeah george alicia very familiar with it i just never never got around to watch chris o'donnell i heard was so bad yeah the chris o'donnell of it all yeah it's very
Starting point is 00:24:23 underrated it's such a comic book moot. I'm like, have you read comics? They are campy. They are corny. That's how they are. Go pick up one. I'm writing one. Mine is sexy, I want to say.
Starting point is 00:24:33 But the dialogue, it's all very campy. Comic books are campy, especially from that time. And so it was very much a comic book come to life. And when I was little, I thought it was cool as shit. Yeah. And I was raised on adam west batman yeah exactly that was a campground yeah fucking batman i was like yeah this is why i fuck with it also that batman and robin soundtrack i won that shit at my block party and i remember
Starting point is 00:24:57 that was 97 we had a block party and one of the things for winning the like egg on a spoon race was you got a free batman and robin cd and i remember so many of the songs on that there was a bone thugs in harmony song look into my eyes and tell me yes man say less about batman you won the you won the egg spoon race huh oh fuck yeah that's some that's steady- handed shit oh you knew it the way i was bro the way i was stabilizing with those with my like like you thought i was speed walking getting that fucking trying to get that soundtrack and then i won the three-legged race with my neighbor and got a fucking five dollar blockbuster music gift card wow get at me music yes they used to have the fucking music side of it for all my people
Starting point is 00:25:47 yeah wow and you could rent music no it's like a shitty record store oh yeah you would get like a cd or something interesting yeah yeah it was like it was like them trying to be like hey man like we can do like virgin megastore type shit do you remember their final push in their old day, in their, like, final days when they had, like, slushy machines? Yeah. But, like, they were bringing all this, like, smoothies and all of this stuff there when you would go in. Hey, kids. You like sugar, right?
Starting point is 00:26:18 Yeah. Get over here. It was like when my grandfather started wearing cross colors in the 90s. And we were like, you ain't got to do that, Grandpa. Leave that for the young folks. I think cross colors are for everyone i'm glad i was like bro you with these like black and green and yellow fucking overalls grandpa come on like i know you saw that at the end of in living color because keenan ivory wayans was wearing that outfit but like all right do you do you grandpa all right let's take a quick Uh, and we'll be right back.
Starting point is 00:26:53 I'm Jess Casaveto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling, first-hand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration.
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Starting point is 00:29:59 Hi, I'm Maite Gomez-Rejon. Our podcast, Hungry for History, is back. Season two. Season two. Season two. Are we recording? Are we good? Oh, we push record, right? Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:11 And this season, we're taking an even bigger bite out of the most delicious food and its history. Saying that the most popular cocktail is the margarita, followed by the mojito from Cuba, and the piña colada from Puerto Rico. So all of these... We thank Latin culture. There's a mention of blood sausage in Homer's Odyssey
Starting point is 00:30:30 that dates back to the 9th century B.C. B.C.? I didn't realize how old the hot dog was. Listen to Hungry for History as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:30:53 And we're back. And yeah, so I was out of the country for a little while. So I got back over the weekend and spent Sunday catching up on my stories. And by that, I mean, what are my billionaires up to, you guys? Elon Musk. How are they doing? Elon. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:14 It was just like a weird, like the New York Times magazine was all about billionaires. And there's like all these news alerts about like fucking what Elon Musk is going to do to Twitter. And it just, I don't know. I was like, fuck, this is our country. But yeah, so I don't know. I guess the update, the news hook for this is that Elon Musk had bought a controlling interest in Twitter and then has announced, I guess it was Monday morning, that he would not be joining the board. But the way the incentive structure is set up is when it was announced he had a controlling interest, Twitter stock shot up. And when it was announced
Starting point is 00:31:58 that he wasn't going to take a seat on the board, it went down temporarily. i don't know where it's at right now the ceo was like it's okay we still we still welcome his ideas i'm gonna talk to him all the time so it's all good but i just feel like we are in this world like there this is like who grown-ups treat the way that like boy bands were when i was an adolescent were treated by adolescent children it's like they are just idolized and it's just like there there's a projection of like hopes and dreams and you know blamelessness and coolness onto these people that are not blameless and are not cool. Right. Very, very not cool.
Starting point is 00:32:52 I think it just indicates, though, like how sick our society is when we're idolizing people whose whole like identity is based on extracting as much wealth out of the planet as possible, not having any kind of like not a single real real altruistic bone in their body and we're like this is so lit y'all and we're not actually even examined like we're not even examining the origins of the wealth we're just accepting that it is what it is and not taking and not doing the accounting of those dollars and say how many shattered fucking souls are there because of the wealth that isn't there to whether that's employment because jobs have moved or lack of a pay equity or whatever what have you that's a you
Starting point is 00:33:36 know ends up being the byproducts of he's having these kinds of like oligarchs and yeah we're just here being like i feel like we've always i mean we have more billionaires now though now now than yeah so but i feel like we've always been the society and especially like entertainment or whatever like they've always been super capitalistic always been like you know the it used to be seen as something to strive to be like a millionaire billionaire or whatever now i see it's pivoted in a way of like save us does that make sense like it's it's i get the rock star portion of it of thinking like basically basically when you have like an mvp athlete or somebody that is i just see that i just see us pivoting now as like oh you have the money to save us without realizing like, you're also the reason why we're here.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Right. You're also the reason why we are dealing with so much climate change. What like these huge corporations and companies and the people that run them. But I do see this whole, I mean, Elon has the capacity to end homelessness in this country. Like it's wild that he tweeted about,
Starting point is 00:34:41 Oh, we should turn. What do you say? The Twitter headquarters into a homeless shelter because nobody goes there anyways? Which I agree with. Yeah, sure. But he has the, like, why are you just tweeting these things instead of actively doing them? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:56 I think, and that's what makes him such an unlikable person to me, which is he just posits these things as if he couldn't do them. And you're like, here's the difference motherfucker you have the you actually have the the fucking capital to act out these things that you're just throwing out as like these like wouldn't it be fucking weird if but we're looking at that's like going to dinner with somebody who's like just won the like the lotto and they're like oh let's go out to eat to celebrate and then the check comes and you're at like fucking outback and he's like okay so what y'all putting in it's like you yeah exactly you have all the fuck are you talking about like you look fucking ridiculous yeah and it's also just chaotic like the stuff he chooses to it's just at the whim at his whim you know the thing
Starting point is 00:35:40 that he chose to get like really drill down on the details of was like that cave rescue of those kids in the cave and then the person was like yo your submarine would not fucking fit through oh yeah and he was like you're a pedophile that like that's so he chooses to drill down in the details of that fuck it it up, of course, but then when there are actual things that he could do with his immense wealth, that's just not interesting to him. He'd rather smoke weed with fucking Joe Rogan.
Starting point is 00:36:15 And I think another thing, just to point out about the Twitter thing, is he didn't report this to the SEC for 11 days. So he basically earned almost $ like 150 million or a little over 150 million on profit by not saying anything because he knows that his name is going to then like yeah because your benefit yeah exactly and you're already holding so the sec is like you know they're basically saying oh yeah we need to look at that and so yeah he could face a fine but we know what what the fuck is a fine to somebody who has this kind of wealth anyway.
Starting point is 00:36:46 So there's just so much of like operating outside of the normal bounds that you see too, with, you know, just all of his actions. I'm curious, I guess his game plan of like, he bought this stock and then he immediately tweeted is Twitter dying.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Like when he, you know, same with him tweeting that the Tesla stock was too high and then it plummeted yeah who like yeah that's some shit that like i'm sure the the thing i know he's good at is finding ways to like manipulate markets to make a lot of money he's apparently the best at it because he's the richest person in the world but i don't know like so any like they had this article the new york times magazine had this article all about or this the whole magazine was all about american billionaires and their influence and one of them daddy to your point about this not being necessarily new was reviewing the literature of
Starting point is 00:37:41 billionaire autobiography but they were pointing out that there's the Horatio Alger thing is largely, when we talk about Horatio Alger, which is the late 19th century, I think that's what it was, but the stories of young orphans, penniless who like pull themselves up by their bootstraps. It's actually about like, usually they have a wealthy benefactor who like likes them because
Starting point is 00:38:13 they're cute and like treats them nicely in that way, which is like definitely by far closer to the truth than the idea that you could just like, you know, pedal your elbow grease into a multi-billion dollar fortune. Right. But they also just look at like, you know, the biographies of like one of the Koch brothers and T. Boom Pickens and, you know, then they connect it to 50, apparently Fifty Shades of Grey like created an entire genre that is like the most burgeoning genre in literature. And it's basically hot billionaire romance.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Where a young, hot billionaire comes through and there's... Save me from my husband and kids. Yeah, right. Exactly. Save me from my Peloton class and just sweep me off my feet yeah do very plain vanilla sex with me yeah exactly but then they had there's this article that bummed me out like called they called it the philosopher king and it's just about this german or no he's not german he was raised in france but he he's like a billionaire and he's decided, he's not German. He was raised in France, but he, he's like a billionaire and he's decided like he's interested in philosophy. So he's like created all this like philosophy
Starting point is 00:39:31 Institute with like all the great thinkers of the modern world and academia. And it's just like a flex. It's just like taking all the best thinkers and being like look now you have to talk to me and it's like kind of harmless they definitely try and make like there's photographs of him where they're trying to make him look like david bowie like he's just like chilling and they're like he used to be called the homeless billionaire because he like sold his houses and just lived out of mere hotel rooms and private jets for a while oh so truly a heroic have a permanent housing situation but was it okay but then it ends with them asking him like so what do you think of like redistributing your wealth and he's like you know i just don't think it's the best way to do it not much i don't think much about it to be
Starting point is 00:40:23 honest to be frank i'm too busy thinking about existence. You know what I'm saying? Right. And, yeah, it's just all, it's a comprehensively bleak picture. Like the, yeah, I guess the one missing ingredient is like, the government has shown that they let corporations, like the corporation is the ultimate actor that they will like not fuck with. And it seems like the corporations are now answering to these like rock star billionaire people.
Starting point is 00:40:53 I'm just like if the government could ever get around to switching back to a world like the earlier 20th century where they actually taxed these motherfuckers and you know maybe i don't know but it it seems like we're not headed in that direction anytime soon i have a question when it comes to how y'all feel about i have a question when it comes to how y'all feel about accumulating wealth um i was just gonna, I know, I feel that we all agree there are no good billionaires. Do you agree that way too, as well as millionaires? And by that, I mean, like, at what point are people know, at what point when you come from homelessness, like we hear these stories with athletes or even authors or people that have come from horrific traumatic childhoods that literally did pull themselves up to a point at what point are people or what point do you become a villain or are people no longer rooting for you i feel like us being in entertainment i think about this a lot as i'm in my tiny apartment which is like not anything i have not accumulated wealth at all i still owe a shit ton of student loans but I feel like there's a level that you reach where people are rude. Like, why aren't they,
Starting point is 00:42:09 why aren't they bigger yet? Why aren't they bigger? And then once they get there, all of a sudden now you're not, I just personally don't, I, I personally feel like, especially when it comes to people of color, like there's no amount of money that that can out can undo childhood trauma can undo like things that you grew up with and the horrific things that you might have experienced and like i see a lot of people that do end up pumping that money back into their communities and yet when they complain like one person that just comes to mind is say lebron and anytime he says anything i feel the comments are always like oh boohoo you fucking millionaire like go right in your mansion when they complain. Like one person that just comes to mind is, say, LeBron. And anytime he says anything, I feel the comments are always like,
Starting point is 00:42:48 oh, boo-hoo, you fucking millionaire. Like, go whine in your mansion. Right. I'm super curious about the cognitive dissonance or like, I don't know. I would love to hear your thoughts. I think it's because everyone has a simmering resentment for the wealthy, just in general. Just in general. if you if you are
Starting point is 00:43:06 struggling if you live paycheck to paycheck or maybe you are somewhat financially stable and you feel that you can get more i think there is just this like human nature thing of especially now because we the inequality is so fucking severe and in everyone's faces that it's really hard to look at someone who you from your place you say they have a probably problem free life because of their the means that they have that that motivates people to then say you don't get to complain because you have your finance like you're wealthy and i think when people hear that who don't have things like that's the first thing that like sort of resonates with them is like, well, if I had money, I wouldn't be fucking complaining. And it comes out like that very reflexively. Like for me, where things cross
Starting point is 00:43:54 the line is where your pursuit of accumulating wealth is directly connected with like decision making that, you know, is going to put other people at a disadvantage. Yeah. And you know that by saying, well, I'd rather shoot, you know, if you're if you're in film or something, you'd say, I actually don't want to shoot there because I like being in this part better. And they're saying, well, actually, like we have this whole crew that we working with, blah, blah, blah. It's like, no, I'd rather shoot it in Europe than in this place or whatever. And now those people are losing a job because maybe something very personal to you. I mean, whatever, what have you. But I think the bigger thing is when you have people who make these decisions on behalf of their companies that are either moving the operations, downsizing and
Starting point is 00:44:34 things like that. So you can begin to find other ways to, you know, make your stock price perform or what have you. But I think it is, there's just like, we just don't, because everybody's so aware of inequality, it's just a bad time to be very visible and wealthy and like have a take. To have a take. No, that's true. I just thought that, you know, weeks ago, I wasn't on for, I'm sure you guys had this discussion, but like, even with the stuff that happened to Ryan Coogler, I'm like, no amount of money protects you from, like, I just, I just don't, there's just a conversation. I understand the conversation with, with wealth. I just think that a lot of times people think, Oh, once you're
Starting point is 00:45:11 rich, that's it. No problems now. Like, you know, and it just doesn't, I don't think that any amount of money can undo some of the racial harm that people have and continue to experience. Oh, well, yeah, that, oh well yeah that i mean that's that's a certainty yeah no but those are the comments that you see so anyways not to take us on a tangent i just was curious at like what point you think it flips that people would be rooting for you rooting for you why is any bigger why is any bigger and then once you're bigger it's like well fuck you for complaining yeah i mean it's you kind of have to i i feel like you have to look at what they like the the reason i brought up the philosopher king article is because the shit that
Starting point is 00:45:51 like they're talking about is all like he surrounds himself with really interesting philosophers he gives out a million dollars each year to like somebody who has the most interesting philosophical ideas i was just reading the whole thing being like wait for it wait for it when's he gonna say the thing that is like his belief that he deserves to have billions of dollars and that you know like basically by existing and like by you know having these beliefs about like keeping wealth concentrated the way it is like he is doing active harm so like that's you know if he had like come out and been like and here's my like 12-step plan to redistribute like all my wealth and you know like get pull people up and like i i would have been you know
Starting point is 00:46:38 i i'm i want to be open-minded i want i want a solution to this problem. I don't want it to just be like, well, fuck all any category of people. But it just feels like there is a poisoning that happens when you get to that level because you are only around other people who are either trying to grow your wealth or trying to grow their wealth but via yours and like it just yeah i think it can be somewhat crazy making and it's just bad for bad for society yeah i think i mean yeah i feel like you know well that's not that it'll happen but if we just need to agree upon a number so i agree i agree i also think there's this thing that i learned about the old school wealthy that always gives me a little bit of hope uh the old school like the vanderbilts and shit like that they had a policy to never like outwardly show any wealth never like you know build the walls high so nobody could see like what your house looked like and shit because there was this thing where like you like there's this analysis of class in america that's like
Starting point is 00:47:51 you are aware of the class directly above you and directly below you and you generally don't like them or look down on them and then everything else is like you don't really know that it exists and so for the vast majority of americans for the vast majority of the history of the country billionaires did not exist because they just kind of hid and put their name on colleges and you know art institutes and shit but now that there's transparency and there's this, like, I'm going to be a rock star side of it, like, it gives me some hope that we will eventually eat Elon Musk.
Starting point is 00:48:33 Right. That our tastes are souring a bit to it. Yeah. Then be like, yo, shut the fuck up, bro. Keep that shit low. Right. Keep that shit low. The Vanderbilts are, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:43 scoffing down there, whatever the fuck they wear on their face. At Elon Musk, they're like, you know, that is foolish by their standards. But I don't know, maybe he's just evolved it to a new level because people still seem to they don't give him the type of shit they give LeBron. I'll tell you that much. No, no clue why that could be. Yeah, no, there's literally nothing different between the two of them. Quick melanin check. All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come right back.
Starting point is 00:49:16 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine.
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Starting point is 00:50:16 Do you ever wonder where your favorite foods come from? Like what's the history behind bacon-wrapped hot dogs? Hi, I'm Eva Longoria. Hi, I'm Maite Gomez-Rejon. Our podcast, Hungry for History, is back. Season two. Season two. Are we recording?
Starting point is 00:50:31 Are we good? Oh, we push record, right? Okay. And this season, we're taking an even bigger bite out of the most delicious food and its history. Saying that the most popular cocktail is the margarita, followed by the mojito from Cuba, and the piña colada from Puerto Rico.
Starting point is 00:50:47 So all of these, we thank Latin culture. There's a mention of blood sausage in Homer's Odyssey that dates back to the 9th century B.C. B.C.? I didn't realize how old the hot dog was. Listen to Hungry for History as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio
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Starting point is 00:52:11 It was December 2019 when the story blew up. In Green Bay, Wisconsin, former Packers star Kabir Bajabiamila caught up in a bizarre situation. KGB explaining what he believes led to the arrest of his friends at a children's Christmas play. A family man, former NFL player, devout Christian, now cut off from his family and connected to a strange arrest. I am going to share my journey of how I went from Christianity
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Starting point is 00:53:00 You got straight away. I felt like I was living in North Korea, but worse, if that's possible. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And it is that time again that I didn't know was an annual time of year, but apparently it is. Gerber has announced their annual contest to find the next Gerber baby, which I don't know. It seems a little lazy, right?
Starting point is 00:53:38 Well, I just like you were pointing out earlier, the way they even are out here trying to court new potential Gerber baby contestants, candidates, look at quick, they're looking for candidates that have a quote, playful smile that can light up a room, as well as quote, an irresistible giggle and undeniably lovable personality. And also they're looking for a spokes baby that is an infant or a baby four years old or younger. Yeah. So let me just read directly. Does your baby have the best smile or a door or an adorable giggle?
Starting point is 00:54:12 If so, they may qualify to be the next Gerber baby. Qualify is such a weird word there. It's like you might qualify for like tax relief or you may qualify for. Right. For this class action lawsuit. Right. Exactly. Yeah. Just keep it real nice and clean. And yeah. tax relief or you may qualify for right for this class action lawsuit this right exactly yeah um just keep it real nice and clean and yeah uh you may qualify to give us your baby yes for 25
Starting point is 00:54:34 please give us your babies to make new ip for a company this baby is actually our your baby's face is now our intellectual property fuck out of here sucker so i mean the original gerber baby this goes back to that original gerber baby from 1928 that like i think i think if i wasn't looking at a picture of the baby's face i could still like close my eyes and like kind of picture it that's iconic right the gerber baby yeah it's like a charcoal sketch but right so the it started with a contest in 1928 and it was for artists drawings because nobody had a fucking camera and a charcoal sketch ended up winning and they didn't reveal the identity of the baby or, I guess, the artist until 1928. So 50 years later. But there were apparently, like, before we were alive, the things that they had conspiracy theories about were things like, I heard the Gerber baby was Humphrey Bogart.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Or I heard the Gerber baby was Bob Dole yeah what the fuck how fucking bored do you have to be for that to even like if you told me that and it was true it would immediately fall out of my brain like the second you told me that yeah you look at that and you're like that's bob dole if i've ever seen it also this baby looks like borderline like anime like the eyes are so big it's one of the most beautiful babies i've you know you've ever seen bob dole i don't know bob dole was not yeah the whole conversation reminds me of like the sketches in uh i think you should leave with uh you know sam richardson and like the baby little bodybuilders and the right look at these they're goosed man kids are goosed got goose suits
Starting point is 00:56:39 got goose suits but anyways it turned out that that baby baby was not Humphrey Bogart or Bob Dole, but some random woman whose family lived next to the artist when she was a baby. Now, if it had turned out to be Humphrey Bogart or Bob Dole, that would have suggested a level of Illuminati control to the point that they have plucked this five-month-old baby from obscurity and been like, we already know that this baby
Starting point is 00:57:12 is going to be powerful. You might as well put this baby on your baby food thing. Like, it's such a wild conspiracy, dude. Right, right, right. Humphrey Bogart. I mean, look, that's the beauty of having rumors in 1978 there's no internet yeah and you can just get shit going like you can just be a
Starting point is 00:57:32 drunk guy and be like let me you know you want to know that shut the fuck up you want to know who the fucking baby is come here come here come here man yeah humphrey bogart man just don't sell anybody like okay she never the model never got never got a penny until it was revealed that she never got a penny. And then they helped her buy a house. Begrudgingly. Yeah. I guess it was the baby was paid in 1950 when she was trying to buy a house with her husband who just got back from World War II. Should be noted was no longer a baby at that
Starting point is 00:58:05 point yeah due to the i'm trying to start i'm trying to start a life with my husband and then the even more fucked up part was they only did it because someone else was trying to claim that it was them that was the gerber baby like some other fucking fraudster was like hey run me my gerber money i'm the gerber baby and they're like man all right i guess now we're gonna have to admit to this other woman she's the gerber baby because she's actually asking for less right it's like a fucked up paternity suit right who's judging that's what i want to know like who's judging who's on the board yeah pre-dna like who who is just like holding up the picture being like nah any of you or no but also on the board who selects oh he selects the babies today mbc hit me up this
Starting point is 00:58:56 could be a thing all right this is your next uh this is a good question you have to get danny because any other if it's just a group of like unnamed people i am picturing the creepiest motherfuckers in the world the weirdest people like dance moms or like uh toddlers and tiaras like on steroids yeah or that baby sucks the creepy old man neighbor from Family Guy. It's me. It's Kelly Clarkson. It's Alicia Keys. Wait, didn't Kelly Clarkson change her name?
Starting point is 00:59:34 Did she? I think so. No. Sorry to be so pop culture. It's me. Who else is in there? Jamil. Also, Terry. I don't know. Every single person that's on those. All of the. America's Got Talent.
Starting point is 00:59:49 American Idol. Masked Singer. Howard Stern, for some reason, pops in every once in a while. She's now Kelly Breanne. That's right. Thank you, Becca. Is she? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:59 She just goes by Kelly Breanne. Did she change the name of her show? I don't know. Because. Not sure. Anyways, it's me. It's, it's Nick Lachey. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:10 I like this. Thank you. But here's the thing, right? If you actually took this seriously, because I think you take it seriously and you want it to be like, well, how do we equitably discern which of these fantastic contestants has a, like, these seem like such intangible qualities like an irresistibly adorable laugh and lovable personality it's weird it's there is no version of this unless you are doing it on tv in front of people and the people are like talented and funny and not chosen for their like keen eye for baby cuteness or whatever the fuck like qualifies you to be on the board to judge this it's it's gonna just roast them yeah just
Starting point is 01:00:53 fucking make a comedy show out of it and be like yo we're about to flame the fuck out of these grubber babies i want the grub i would pick like the grub i love those babies that look like they've been here for 50 years yeah yeah or the one yard stare yeah yes i also like a big past life like reincarnation so like the the babies that come out and they're like are you fucking kidding me i said not to come i said i said i did not want to come back here yeah you could just see it in their face. That should be the Gerber baby. You know that little kid? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:27 Linda, look it. Linda. Look it. Linda. Look it, Linda. Honey. Baby. No, I don't want pep house.
Starting point is 01:01:35 We're not listening. You're not listening. I mean, he was like, damn, I'm on my fifth fucking tour, bro. I know. For real. I'm not going to lie, man. I don't know if you know this shit before this i was a municipal bus driver that died in a fucked up accident okay and i was like that was my fourth
Starting point is 01:01:50 one and before that i'd be crushed building the hoover damn yeah that baby represents america i want the grumpy baby on all of the food yeah everyone would be like yes yeah you want a baby that's like millionaires and the footnotes uh you can look for the linda baby we'll make it the first footnote because that's the only one anyone's gonna actually be looking for but uh just and before you throw your baby into the onto the pile of babies that gerber is is considering just last year uh it should be noted a congressional report revealed that there was lax testing of baby food and brands like gerber had dangerous levels of lead cadmium mercury and inorganic arsenic oh what does that mean somebody dropped their arsenic bottle in
Starting point is 01:02:41 the fucking mixer or some shit yeah yeah no i mean i you know we i i have kids we've always insisted upon local organic arsenic and baby food that's just a policy we don't we don't budge but i don't know apparently the contamination of heavy metals in food this is making me just happy to live in amer. The contamination of heavy metals in food is relatively common. A larger problem in the food supply is just especially problematic with baby food because it turns out they're a little smaller. Their brains are doing 20 times the work that our brains are doing on any given day because they're building themselves.
Starting point is 01:03:22 But yeah, it's another example. I mean, it kind of goes back to what we've been talking about this whole episode like you know that it takes a fucking train to get the fucking fda to you know all to take on a company like gerber right but because this report gerber is one of the companies being sued over this and there's there's a chance that they might like have to pay out lawsuit and so might just be a weird time to be slapping your baby's face on the gerber bottle but twenty five thousand dollars is twenty five thousand dollars they're like hey man enter your child to be the next gerber fall guy i mean the next gerber baby
Starting point is 01:04:03 they're gonna be like your your honor, that child. I mean, that's the face of the company. I think we need to be asking this child what the fuck went down with these lax testing regimens. That's just me. I am 50-50 on whether at the outset of the judging process, if the judging is being done behind closed doors if at the outset of the judging process somebody in within the gerber corporation is like guys we need to find the cutest fucking baby because we are in trouble we're fucked we need a baby that is going to deflect the heavy metals and inorganic arsenic scandal that we're staring down the barrel of.
Starting point is 01:04:47 I mean, boss, where are we going to find that? I don't know. Put out feelers to everyone. Everyone? Everyone! You're like, oh shit. Came Gary Oldman and shit. I feel like it would be the opposite.
Starting point is 01:05:00 It would be like the ugliest baby. They're like, we need sympathy. We need pity. We need like, if they're, if they start to go after us, we're like, why is it? Cause our baby isn't cute enough. Is it? Cause our baby is ugly. Oh, because his baby has one of those helmets on with an eye patch. They're just trying to correct their eyesight. And maybe if they messed up on those documents, signing off on those more lax testing protocols, we would have caught this. But instead y'all are coming
Starting point is 01:05:21 after a child with diminished eyesight. And that's just is just terrible terrible my honor most of my friends don't have babies but the ones that do are luckily cute because i'm not a good liar yeah oh i'm terrible at it i'm terrible at it oh yeah no he looks like they're from earth my one friend has like a child that like her majesty and i when we see their daughter we're like how is this child so damn fucking photogenic like whenever they post like a picture of shit we're like what the fuck is this some filtered shit and then when you see them in person you say that extra because you're like they're not even that cute they're just photogenic right right and yeah i tell that to the parent i'm like yo that's wild because i was just telling her in the on the on the on the phone child looks you know it's like a it's an angel from heaven
Starting point is 01:06:10 but up close yeah this motherfucker pretty busted up but that's cool man how y'all how y'all really manage the image our shout outs to you danny as always truly a pleasure having you on tdz where can people find you follow you you, all that good stuff? I'm at Ms. Dani Fernandez, M-S-D-A-N-I-F-E-R-N-A-N-D-E-Z. And if my tweets resonate with you, awesome, share them. And if they don't, like, keep scrolling.
Starting point is 01:06:34 Let her know. Let me know, yes. Also, yes, so I have, I will be in the Pride issue for DC Comics. I'm writing a sexy Harley Quinn Poison Ivy story. So that will be out in June during Pride. I mean, that's pretty close. Are you done with it?
Starting point is 01:06:56 I cannot share anything. Can you share something with me? What is it like? Because I mean, that's, you know, I'm sure something that you probably wouldn't have pictured yourself doing as a kid. Do you what was it like when you're at you're like right there at the wheel? What was the feeling of like? I loved it because they said I could do whatever I wanted. And I'm like, oh, you know me.
Starting point is 01:07:15 You know what I'm going to do. Jessica Chen, who's my editor, hit me up and I was like, well, I want to do this and this and this. I basically was like, what can I get away with? Yeah. And we were like, well, I want to do this and this and this. I basically was like, what can I get away with? And we were like, let's see. So I'm definitely sure I'll be doing more with them. And I really love those are my two biggest queer icons in DC history. So I'm really honored that I get to write them. And I'm excited and I hope everyone likes it.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Well, they're in good hands. They're in good hands. Thank you. Is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Hell yeah. Y'all, this is my favorite tweet. I don't think I've talked about it on here. I always bring up a different one.
Starting point is 01:07:58 But this one is about Patrick Wilson. And if you're like, I don't know who Patrick Wilson is. You do. He's the dad in Sinister and the Conjuring series. He's like the horror dad that's in a lot of these franchises. And the tweet is, it's pictures of him. This is from Scoog. It's S-K-O-O-G.
Starting point is 01:08:17 And it said, this motherfucker really said, I'm going to be in a million movies, but absolutely refuse to be famous. And it's true. He's in a million movies but absolutely refuse to be famous um and it's true he's in so many movies and patrick wilson responded and said damn it my plan has been thwarted but that's my favorite my favorite tweet is the one that was like this motherfucker said i'm gonna be in every single movie and not be famous and he is very but like he can't go anywhere without anyone like that that's got to be more annoying because you're the guy yeah and they go you're oh you're that guy fuck you're the guy so many people telling you what you're from yeah are you disagreeing with you yeah that's awesome he's
Starting point is 01:08:58 from something else that i yeah he's an aquaman he's he's in everything there it is jack he's in everything every literally he's there he's a he's there Aquaman. He's in everything. There it is. Jack, he's in everything. Every fucking thing. He's there. He's there. Amazing. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Find me at milesofgray on Twitter and Instagram.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Also, new podcast alert. Miles and Jack got mad boosty on an NBA podcast. Come tune in for that. Fun NBA podcast. Having good times. You know how we do it. So check that podcast out. Also, 420 Day Fiance.
Starting point is 01:09:26 As usual, some tweets I like. There are so many things that have aligned on the horror theme for whatever reason. I like three horror sort of based tweets. First one, House of Decline. At House of Decline tweeted, Western horror. It's blood guy. Japanese horror. Have you ever thought about how fucked up triangles are?
Starting point is 01:09:47 Go deep, go deep, go deep. Another one is from Michael Benjamin at MF Benji tweeted, Actors who are on... Oh, I'm sorry. This really doesn't have to do with horror, but sort of what the sentiment Danny was expressing. Actors who are on one hit TV show and made enough money to buy a house
Starting point is 01:10:03 and now just randomly appear in stuff, but anything that good and on instagram they're always on vacations and having fun career goals yeah yeah that's about it and at melinda top top tweeted movie idea millennial couple moves into a terminally haunted house but because of the housing shortage they're happy to just vibe with the blood dripping down the walls etc because holy shit a house yeah yeah i feel like those there's a lot of those people who were like yeah i was in you know hill street blues for three seasons in the 80s and you know many episodes of golden girls and like they're just hanging out in LA. They always seem so fucking happy. Like for the most part, like they're not, they're not the ones that I've met.
Starting point is 01:10:48 At least it seemed like they're just doing great. They're like, yeah, dabbled in real estate for a little bit after that. Like, but you mean becoming a landlord? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Oh yeah. I don't work now because of the passive income from collecting rent. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:03 Anyways, uh, let's keep it going with horror. Uh, Rex at Rex mains tweeted. I'd survive screen because I don't answer the phone ever. Yeah. Yeah. Just the guy in the mask. It's like,
Starting point is 01:11:16 fuck knocking on the window. They kind of, I wondered how they would tackle that in the movie. And they did. Cause I was like, there's no, y'all have to address this please right right right oh and scream five or six or whatever oh they do whatever scream right yeah so is my tweet not valid sorry do you like scary you have reached the voice mailbox of fuck Amelia was all day tweeted
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Starting point is 01:12:01 zeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do you think people might enjoy? Man, new action Bronson, or at least it's new to me. Yep, yep, yep. It's called Sub-Zero.
Starting point is 01:12:19 And I, yeah, just love the name of it. It's like a foodie. Daniel and I were just laughing about the time we saw Bodega Boys Live. And Mero told a story about how he bought drugs from a guy, a drug dealer called Sub-Zero, who wore a Sub-Zero mask. Oh, really? Is this a song about the Mortal Kombat character? No, but Sub-Zero has just been in the air. sub-zero has just been sub-zero has been in the air uh so then when i saw this i immediately just thought of this but i'd imagine like you're saying probably more of a refrigerator reference
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