The Daily Zeitgeist - More Like Concentration Spas, AirPod Sex = A Thing 6.20.19

Episode Date: June 20, 2019

In episode 417, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian JC Coccoli to discuss Trump starting his 2020 campaign, the Trump administrations thoughts on reparations, the comparison of concentration camps t...o migrant detention centers, music's influence on sexual behavior, Russia remaking the Chernobyl story to blame the US, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Inside Trump’s 2020 Campaign Launch in Orlando, It’s Still 20162. More MCCONNELL on reparations: "We've tried to deal with our original sin of slavery by fighting a civil war, by passing landmark civil rights legislation. We've elected an African American president."3. WATCH: Ta-Nehisi Coates Takes Down Mitch McConnell on Reparations in House Testimony4. Ocasio-Cortez Calls Migrant Detention Centers ‘Concentration Camps,’ Eliciting Backlash5. The Crimes Against Humanity Are in Progress6. An Expert on Concentration Camps Says That's Exactly What the U.S. Is Running at the Border7. Predicting Even More Horrifying Conditions, Historical Journalist Describes Parallels Between Trump Migrant Detention and Concentration Camps8. Music's Behavior On Sexual Behavior9. Russian TV to air its own patriotic retelling of Chernobyl story10. Russia to make its own show about Chernobyl that implicates the US11. WATCH: Madison McFerrin - Insane Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was assassinated. Crooks Everywhere unearthed the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks. She exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:01:03 I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever
Starting point is 00:01:28 you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 87, Episode 4 of Your Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared conscience. Say officially off the top, Buck Coke Industries and Buck Box News.
Starting point is 00:02:19 It's Thursday, June 20th, 2019. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Tick Jack Ho. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Come here, cheese boy, boy, call me Jack it up. Come here, cheese boy, boy, is you bringing up. Take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it. Love me cheddar. Tonight I'm gonna let you be the Gouda.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Tonight I'm gonna let you Asiago. Tonight I'm going to let you be the Gouda. Tonight I'm going to let you Asiago. Tonight I'm going to let you be the Feta. Parmesan, parmesan, parmesan. Okay. That is from AtSolt. It's handed to the tune of Rude Boy from Rihanna. You are the cheese boy? Yeah, because I was talking about how much I love cheese.
Starting point is 00:03:01 I'm lactose proof. Yeah, that's true. So yeah, just a love song to cheeses. And there was possibly a cheese-related crime we were discussing in the office that I won't get into. That was off hours. That was after hours cheese crime.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Yeah, yeah. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented J.C. Coakley. Oh, hello, everyone. Hi. What's up? You guys are super funny, talented. What?
Starting point is 00:03:30 Did you practice, Miles? No. You lie and sack us. You're right. That's what I was doing in the bathroom. In front of a mirror. Not doing panicked dairy poops. I'm surprised you didn't actually bring out the dance moves.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Did you just kind of get nervous? It's just, you know, Until we start videoing this, I have to conserve my energy. I feel you. JC, it feels like you're a returning guest, but this is your first time on the Daily Zeitgeist. I'm telling you what, it feels organic. It feels local in here.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Yeah, it does. Definitely. It feels local. Locally sourced podcasting. And yeah, you know, we share a lot of memories, it turns out. I know. Mutual friends, yeah. It turns out you've got an amazing mind for faces. I do.
Starting point is 00:04:13 I care about the human face, and we're being taken over by bots. And Miles and I have a history, and we just went through and remembered. And it's great, because that kind of stuff, even if we're on mushrooms... The best is, I met you six years ago, and you go, yeah, I think you were really quiet. And I go, I was high on stuff, even if we're on mushrooms. The best is go, I met you six years ago. You go, yeah, I think you were really quiet. And I go, I was high on mushrooms. Yeah, I was on mushrooms. Yep. And I also weirded out Colin Hanks that night.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Yeah. You can't weird out Colin. I think I've heard about that. I did. I was wearing a blanket and he's like, oh, are you cold? And I was just high on mushrooms. You're like, are you Tom Suggs? No, and I just went, nah, call me the shroom god.
Starting point is 00:04:42 And then. I feel like you introduced yourself as the shroom god. I think I did. That's great. Anyway, 2013 was a wild time. Now I'm slightly less impressed by your memory because if he was walking around in a blanket calling himself the shroom god,
Starting point is 00:04:54 I probably would have remembered him as well. Yeah, that's true. I don't know. Sam Fran has a lot of those due to the homeless population, to be honest with you, if you want to dive in. Yes. We will get into that in a moment. Maybe not, but we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're
Starting point is 00:05:13 talking about today. We're going to talk about Trump kicking off his 2020 re-election in a really boring way. We're going to talk about what Mitch McConnell had to say about reparations. We're going to talk about the definition of concentration camps because that is where we're at in 2019. Splitting hairs over the definition of a concentration camp. What's the difference? When you have to preserve
Starting point is 00:05:38 your morality or sense of fake morality. In a related story, we will talk about the fact that ICE has stopped reporting deaths that happen in ICE custody. We're going to talk about Mitch McConnell's wife. It's all full circle today because she is the new Scott Pruitt. We're going to talk about how 17% of you...
Starting point is 00:06:03 Oh, don't give it away. Don't? Okay. I think... No, I'm dying. 17% of you... Do something with your AirPods. Yeah, do something with your AirPods.
Starting point is 00:06:12 No, that's too obvious. All right. 17% of you... Yeah. 17% of you. Okay, never mind. 17% of you fuck with AirPods. In.
Starting point is 00:06:23 For real. In. Yeah. There you go. 17% of you fuck with AirPods In For real In Yeah There you go So And there's a bunch of Sex music statistics That we're gonna get into
Starting point is 00:06:34 And for fans of Chernobyl There is a sequel of sorts coming out A sort of Bunimania A Rashomon Another That's a pretty good impression of the Bunimania Bunimania You're so good at the distance That you're doing it Yep I have to Yeah Sort of a Rashomon. That's a pretty good impression of the edge. When you mind me, when you mind me.
Starting point is 00:06:46 You're so good at the distance that you do it. Yep, I have to. Because I finally watched it, finally caught up, and I get the hype. And we're going to get a new look at the events that happened that night from a different angle in an upcoming series. But first, JC, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Okay. Well, graphite. I've spent a lot of time Googling graphite to find out what it is, what it do. And it was fascinating because then I went into a rock hole and I learned more
Starting point is 00:07:21 about other elements that we are sitting on, and then I went into a fracking hole. Oh, wow. And then I connected it with a Me Too joke, and I was able to write something smart about it. Oh, there you go. Fantastic. Yeah, you're a stand-up comedian.
Starting point is 00:07:34 What did you learn about graphite? Were you just learning because you're watching Chernobyl, you're like, Google, what's graphite? Google, what's, well, DuckDuckGo. Yeah. I don't want to be traced. Oh, gotcha. DuckDuckGo is pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:07:45 And I've spent a numerous amount of time trying to figure out a VIN number for my computer. It's a VPN number. I've been kind of learning a little bit more about my surroundings. And that's my last DuckDuckGo is graphite because I wanted... Not that it's around me all the time. Yeah, it's the last thing. Oh, no. I just was like, why don't I start from this most extreme and learn about all of them?
Starting point is 00:08:08 Because it was very intimidating. Because I work in climate, I'm learning a lot more about what's in a coal mine and how it operates and what Koch Brothers plant does to the water in Pennsylvania. And I'm from there, and I'd like to know air quality. So this show, like I said, was, it's an environmental phenomenon. It's a huge catastrophe and it is a foreshadowing. It's very smart to kind of dive in. So at night I'll just like snuggle up and like look up elements lately. Hey.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Hey, who's into that kinky element life? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're from Pittsburgh. Is that right? Pittsburgh. Born and raised. Pittsburgh area. Steel City.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Cold City Ghost Steelers. Great town. Haven't met a bad person from Pittsburgh yet. Yeah. They're a good breed. Yeah. I'm a fan. What is something you think is underrated?
Starting point is 00:08:58 Underrated is all women having the ability to physically fight or protect themselves with a sport of choice. Okay. Okay. Some kind of combat sport? Some kind of combat sport. It doesn't have to lead to a war activity. It just needs to know that you own your space on this planet in this now. And it's okay to kind of learn how to use your body in cool ways to protect yourself yeah
Starting point is 00:09:26 and the way you were moving uh as you were kind of saying that sentence made me think that you have done a little bit of training and in the yeah you yeah you clenched your fist arts yeah whoa you're shadowboxing the mic yeah i think you have a knuckle duster on yeah yeah i do it's actually a coral reef oh nice her hands just turned into a blur. Are you boxing? Have you taken up a discipline recently? Yeah, boxing. Boxing, Krav Maga, Tim McGraw's friend.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Tim McGraw's, yeah. Krav. Kev McGraw. His brother. Kevin Hart. Kevin Hart teaches me to defend myself. I learned to box because it had come to me kind of organically working with a bunch of surfers for hurley and i had one of their girlfriends or fiancés at the time is ufc
Starting point is 00:10:12 boxer who just kicked butt um ufc fighter and she was just skilled and i learned um the way to move my body that way and i started doing it you become a bit addicted and then you're like your whole day becomes training because not the whole day but you can go back every now and then because it's just so powerful I mean I was working on an album at the time and I was like this is giving me the fuel to feel really strong and now I I just know that you know if it comes to a scarier situation I'm more equipped right um to not go for a gun more like physical hand-to-hand combat right now you walk the streets like michael douglas and falling down michael douglas like pull up i dare you please by the way i am begging you pittsburgh pennsylvania
Starting point is 00:10:54 michael douglas yeah hey that makes sense why he was in wonder boys that right wasn't he in Wonder Boys is a Michael Chabon book about a writer in who is a create. He's like failing to write his second big novel. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it's very like Pittsburgh centric.
Starting point is 00:11:16 So it's not the tenacious. Do you wonder boy shot in Pittsburgh? Yeah. Yeah. Shot in Pittsburgh. Um, man, I just remember from the poster cause it's Michael Douglas like this.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Yeah, very writerly. Yeah. He has a scarf on. Yes, he has a scarf on and one finger on the side of his head for people who can't see Miles. The portion of our audience who can't see his name. But look, just picture what a book jacket, like dust jacket photo of an author is in your book. And it's that. Has anybody had to catch these hands of yours?
Starting point is 00:11:50 Catch those hands? Oh, not in real life. Okay. Not in real life. But my boxing instructors are pretty great. And I've been tapped a few times in the face. And I'll tell you what, you don't know what you're doing until you get punched in your face. You turn into a whole different person yeah because
Starting point is 00:12:05 it's a jolt to your brain yeah and like yes we've all had turbulence on an airplane before but like when you're punt that when you're rocked yeah you really are like or you're out it really just depends so it's this new feel uh and it helps my stage work too i i feel like i i know my space a lot more and i know what I'm capable of. If, you know how people just trip all the time? Yeah, yeah. Like on stuff. On shrooms. Oh.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Always, Miles is always on shrooms. Shroom God. How is he even show up here? Have you met my co-host, the Shroom God? Every day you make it here? I know. It's amazing. I'm micro dosing.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. By the way. Just a lot all together. I wrote a joke where I was like, because Denver just cleared mushrooms. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:52 And it's just like Denver didn't legalize cannabis. Cannabis legalized Denver. But it just I feel like I now know how and, you know, because men, men, boys are organically about they have that anxiousness and that desire to exert energy. If you've watched socialized to be aggressive, too. Yeah. Yeah. And completely socialized. Everything happens because of what the way they're guided. And the girls here are a little bit more lighthearted.
Starting point is 00:13:21 But now it's turning and the tides are turning. And I feel like, you know, suiting up is not a bad idea. Yeah. Not necessarily for war, but. Right. Just be ready. Be ready to fight a shark. Well, yeah, it's good to know, you know, yeah, to feel your own body.
Starting point is 00:13:33 And also I think most people have not had the experience of getting socked straight in their face. Yeah. It's a sobering one. My day doesn't start until I get socked square in my face. From your kid? From your kid. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:13:45 I remember one day he came in here, his kids socked him up, and he was just sort of like dazed. Asked Nick, our producer who has kids, like, your kids like get punchy? Oh, yeah. They ever deck you out? I like when the parent like somberly asks like, is your kid ever taking the car?
Starting point is 00:14:01 Is your kid obsessed with knives? It's not normal. Yeah. No, I've had my nose bloodied. Yeah. My friend said the vomit made it into her mouth. Like she was holding the baby and the vomit went in her mouth and she was like, I've never felt more assaulted.
Starting point is 00:14:14 There you go. Or like a parent. Yeah. Yeah. That's when you have love because you don't dry. You're like. I'll swallow it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:20 That happened. Yeah. Because that's my child and I love him or her. No. I love my child. I love my beauty. That's why happened. Yeah. Because that's my child and I love him or her. No. I love my child. I love my beauty. That's why I'm training in self-defense, actually. He's hit me one too many times.
Starting point is 00:14:31 He's going to learn. He's asking me if I have old hockey equipment lying around. He's like, hey, you got like a helmet or shoulder pads like your brother? I got to go home. JC, what is something you think is overrated? Overrated? I think rich people are overrated. Oh, boo.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Rich people are so cool. We love rich people here. We want to be rich. Hear me out. I feel like- Hold on. For any rich people listening, that's not my opinion. I want to be like you guys.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Don't be triggered. I think rich people are overrated. And that comes- And I get it. And I get why money and everything. I get that. But I'm- You don't have to explain this.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Yeah, I know. But I want to – for somebody that is probably a listener that's like, I don't want to fight you even though I'm well-equipped to kill you. But I think that it's overrated that we – and you know this. But we are taking people's thought processes more to heart because of economic status. And that's across the board. Not just politicians, but artists and anyone. It's just because you have made it in any way financially, and you might be a genius, there's still that, I'm going to fight you in the street that I feel needs to happen.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Oh, wow. So you've taken this to you're rich and I need your money. So catch me outside. I don't need your money. Oh, OK. I want to know if you're a good person. So meet me one on one for a coffee without your team. Like not it doesn't have to be a fight, but I just want people to be human for a second.
Starting point is 00:16:02 like not it doesn't have to be a fight but I just want people to be human for a second and with this constant array of like presentation and politics and what we watch with the Meghan McCain thing it's this fight this back and forth it's like listen all that I just want everyone to take like a bit of ayahuasca maybe
Starting point is 00:16:17 zone out find your special place yeah be visited by the energy and be a human being for 30 seconds and people will say, well, we've got so much to do. And it's like, bro, it's going to be there no matter what. Right. But I want to see you be 30 seconds a month. I want to see you be a human being.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Yeah. I think... That's my ideal concentration camp. Is what? Getting a bunch of rich people together and making them do drugs, trip out, and figure out if they're human or not? Yes! So bohemian growth. Right? That's actually not a bad idea what I just put in. I think they do that, but I think they already have those things, and they're at day spas, and they're just told whatever the fuck they want to hear back at them,
Starting point is 00:16:56 and they need somebody there to be their reality drill sergeant. Yeah, I feel like this is no motherfucker. We were talking about this earlier. It's like, maybe we need a way for, if you're rich and you don't want to get 80% of your wealth taken, come hang out with a bunch of people
Starting point is 00:17:13 from the almost opposite end of the socioeconomic spectrum. Right. Hang out with them for a little bit. And then... No cameras. Yeah, and then, exactly. And then at the end,
Starting point is 00:17:23 those people decide if they should have any of their money or if they're just going to take it. Best game show. Actually, no, that doesn't work because I would just be like, we're taking this full time. It would make me really chill. And also, it's a wealthy person would be like,
Starting point is 00:17:33 I'll just pay you to say that I'm the best. Okay, great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They find ways. See? It's a constant cat and mouse. We need Thanos. That's all.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Just snap it up. They have lawyers. That's the thing. That's the. Just snap it up. They have lawyers. That's the thing. That's the thing in America that's protecting them. They'll be like, yeah, I'd like to see you try. I'd like to see you try to get me hanged with a bunch of dirty, poor people. I know. Not going to happen.
Starting point is 00:17:54 I'll helicopter over you. Goodbye. I'm going to my new planet. That's why I go back to hand-to-hand combat every time. It's like, bitch, I'm going to slap you. Wow. You know what I mean? And I know we're not supposed to slap.
Starting point is 00:18:04 But sometimes, you know, when you were a kid growing up before it got too bad and your mama slapped you for something, I don't know, maybe if that happened, just like upside your head. Oh, yeah. I'm just trying to be fair. I know about catching hands for getting out of pocket in public.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Yeah. And then, you know, it obviously turns into more bigger domestic violence disputes than that. But I think a little taperoonie lets people wake up a bit. But maybe I'm wrong. That's a Pittsburgh in me. And what is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false or vice versa?
Starting point is 00:18:41 Okay, listen. If you guys can help me out with this, this is actually going to – I think you're going to laugh really hard, but this is going to blow your mind a bit. So I never had psoriasis my whole life. I was like, a okay. And then maybe 2015, 16, for obvious reasons, probably I got triggered and psoriasis happened and I became infatuated with what, how and what and why. And just so everybody knows, it affects 2 million people in the United States, and it's like this thing where your skin is itchy and the cells develop quicker. It just happens out of nowhere, or it doesn't happen at all. So all these doctors, when I first started coming, they were like,
Starting point is 00:19:18 it's not linked to diet, it's nothing linked to diet. Because I was like, I can't, I don't want this. This is not. Is it red? It'll be like, you see that little red patch there or it could be bigger like and it was just on my legs it started 2015 and then it moved and your listeners will understand what i'm talking about because i've been bringing it on stage more and like people that have psoriasis are like asking me to sign autographs oh and i was like am i the spokesperson for psoriasis? Wait, is psoriasis the thing from that John Turturro character,
Starting point is 00:19:47 The Night Of? You're so good about this stuff. Oh. Does he have psoriasis? Oh, yeah, because he was itching. He has some skin thing that itches. Autoimmune disease. Right, and he can't get rid of it,
Starting point is 00:19:59 but he goes to a support group where other people are just like, it ruins their lives. Oh, he had eczema, I think. Eczema, yes. Okay, so families. And so when I fall down this, I want to know more about these things. When they're like, it's not the food.
Starting point is 00:20:14 It's not the, of course, not the, well, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, mozzarella sticks. As a kid, I had McDonald's, all this chemical, chemical, chemical, chemical. You're telling me it's not the food? Okay, I'll bite, but I'm going to keep doing research. So I've become more fascinated with how to go in and talk to my body
Starting point is 00:20:30 about what's happening acupuncture so yours is more of a question than a myth about many surrounding myths around a general situation you're trying to get to the bottom of something more than I think the myth is that it can't be cured.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Right. Here's the myth that psoriasis can't be cured. And I think it can. Oh, so there you go. Optimism. I like that. Yeah. I'm sure that.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Yeah, right. Are we. What's like how much research is going into it? Not enough, you think? I think there I think there is. But I do. You know, every case is so different. And I'm and I'm learning about this.
Starting point is 00:21:03 And it's like the just it comes down to the Chernobyl of things. It connects all back to Chernobyl. What are people eating and doing and living like that they're acquiring these thyroid cancers or food allergies or, you know, some people can only have grass fed meat versus wheat fed meat. Where what is this doing to our communities and is this bigger than we think rather than just like wives rise it's not a big deal and it's like bitch it's it feels like a big deal if we trace it back to what you ate as a kid and how the air population and things
Starting point is 00:21:37 that were linked to you yeah people that just have asthma in pennsylvania they're like oh i just have asthma what are you talking about your air quality is some of the worst in the united they're like, oh, I just have asthma. What are you talking about? Your air quality is some of the worst in the United States. Right, and they've even linked that to Alzheimer's too. You have a lot of pollution. Parkinson's, I think. My mom is on a thing where she, my mom has Parkinson's. She was like, I think it had to do with the water we were drinking in Pittsburgh. And I was like, okay, Bev, we're going to unpack that when I have time.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Right. Yeah, the microbiome is so interesting, and it's like the next frontier of medicine because it's just you have like an entire like city of different bacteria living in your guts. And yeah, the fact that fecal transplants are such a huge like growth industry in medicine, it's pretty wild. It's like take someone else's poop and put it in your poop. Yeah, but then they just came out with, and why I was like, all right, guys, for $50 million,
Starting point is 00:22:30 I'll give it a go. But they came out with tablets now, so it's like soluble, so you can swallow someone else's stool for 30 days to see if it changes. And I was like, leave it to a woman from Pittsburgh to have to swallow shit to feel better. Andy Dufresne had to crawl through human waste to get to freedom. Maybe that's a metaphor for we just have to eat our way through human waste
Starting point is 00:22:53 to get to freedom from psoriasis. Thank you. You're welcome. Put that on his like a tip. All praise to Shasha. All right, we're going to take a quick break. We're going to be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist
Starting point is 00:23:14 who on October 16th, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price.
Starting point is 00:23:41 into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed?
Starting point is 00:24:16 Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes! Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Santer. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire?
Starting point is 00:25:40 Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really in here to let me waste. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game
Starting point is 00:26:50 is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back and uh donald trump is our president okay next story that's fucking wild yeah uh so he is uh now beginning his officially beginning his re-election campaign even though it's been unofficially.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Literally like 501 days away or something. Right. 502 days away. Yeah. Get it going, baby. And we just passed the June 16th, 2015 was the day that his 2016 campaign started. So he's. The day I got psoriasis.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Yes. And weirdly. Yeah. So he's starting up his 2020 reelection because basically, I mean, he hasn't really been presidenting so much as just running for reelection and thinking about reelection this whole time. Oh, yeah. Well, because I think for him, it's like, well, if I'm out of office, then I have a lot of legal problems.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Right. So I have to figure out how to be president forever. Yeah. So, yeah, you're only focused on kicking the can down the road as much as possible. Yeah. And not thinking of anything new. And I mean, one of the obvious telltale signs that he's been running for re-election the whole time is that he like kicked off with this big re-election event, like his first
Starting point is 00:28:20 big campaign event for 2020. And it was indistinguishable from every other event he's had oh yeah throughout his presidency aside from like it being in like a nice arena right rather than like an airplane hangar or something yeah yeah but it was the same shit every time it's something something immigrants something something muller is a hoax hologram something something hillary clinton something something democrats will destroy. Which is something he actually said. Democrats will destroy you. He's like, that's all they want to do. They want to get in power and they want to take away
Starting point is 00:28:50 your freedom of speech. And you see what they're doing already. So, it's just odd. I mean, this shit took 80 minutes and had everything. It had your Q bags. You had the Proud Boys doing all kinds of white power bullshit outside. You know, it was just Bonnaroo for racists and people were loving it.
Starting point is 00:29:05 But there's really nothing. He really hasn't found anything new. He mentioned Hillary Clinton more than, like, two times. Like, he's really still talking about that shit. Still talking about Hillary Clinton. I think because for him, that really is the only thing he actually achieved, is like, I defied all odds,
Starting point is 00:29:20 and I beat this thing with the help of the Russians. But, like, that, I think that's one of the reasons why even when people talk about when they get tours of the White House from him, he'll like refer to the electoral college map and be like, and this is my road to 270. And I beat Hillary. Like, so I think because there's really nothing else,
Starting point is 00:29:36 I think that's it. But I guess the real issue too is that like, it's becoming to the point where even like the crowd, like, I don't know, 40 minutes in, we're kind of like, right, yeah, fake news, boo. Like it's becoming to the point where even like the crowd like i don't know 40 minutes in we're kind of like right yeah fake news boo right like it's really the same shit and he doesn't have like the same kind of he's not operating the same system before as an outsider he's like oh look at that it's all bullshit huh but now he is in that position right so i guess all he can do is push back against democrats and it's because it can't be the existing power structure because he is now the existing power structure.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Right. Yeah. So much of his appeal before. I mean, the thing that actually appealed to people was this idea that he was speaking truth to power. But he's the power now. Rather than just talking shit to Jeb Bush. Right. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:30:21 That's going to be what he has to do. And it happened in Orlando, Florida. That was the kickoff, right? Right. Because he tapped right into his OG base. And then I think the paper, the newspaper that day came out with an endorsement that was anyone but this guy. Yeah. So take that. I went to UCF in Orlando and I would hope that they feel the same, that they were like anybody but this guy. Yeah. Well, I think when you look at it more that, you know, a lot of people, there's definitely more people now who like at least who may have been undecided, who are starting to like take a look at what's going on. But again, we'll see.
Starting point is 00:30:57 I wonder if there, you know, you would want the human race to be like exhausted. Like I kind of like we kind of I think we're good. Yeah. You know. the human race to be like exhausted like i kind of like we kind of i think we're good yeah you know yeah i mean hopefully you know his just this awful awful presidency could be like the best thing for the united states is maybe can wake up a majority of enough people to begin to move past it but i don't know there's still a good 30 of people who i think are going to think that some kind of like that you know jeff bezos was was behind Trump not being reelected or something. Right. Yeah. Because there's young conservatives, which are fine. Some are good. Some are fine.
Starting point is 00:31:34 But then they get a little proud boy ishy and you're like, oh, no. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you got the Zoomers, the young Gen Z kids who basically. Yeah. Zed. The Zedders. The young Gen Z kids who basically, yeah. Zed. The Zedders. But yeah, I guess this will be, I think, trouble for him going into this campaign because if you're not, you know, like you can't really point at the things you've done.
Starting point is 00:31:53 I mean, you can lie about them because he certainly does, but it's not like the momentum he had, which was like, let's fuck this shit up in DC. Right. And he was able to ride that because now that's on the Democrat side. And you have people who are like Elizabeth Warren, Bernie, whatever. I wonder if he's tired. Put like pointing out, they're like, look at what's going on. I mean, luckily both parties have been at the wheel when a lot of this shit was happening, but like now there's a little more momentum for, I think people to actually sort of pick apart the terrible policies that are going on and use that rather than him just being like, oh, boy, Hillary, huh?
Starting point is 00:32:29 I'm like, so what's that going to do for the base? He's like, yeah. For real? Still her? I mean, like what would be really unsettling is if he somehow found a heart, like faked empathy, and was like, starting today, I'm actually going back. Like, you know, realizing he's like, my base might not abandon me, but if I show enough heart, maybe I can pull in independence.
Starting point is 00:32:51 I liken that to his reality show background. Right. That bait and switch. And, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if we see it. I just don't think he's that good enough of an actor. Right. No, of course not. I think it would just his inability to
Starting point is 00:33:05 deflate from confrontation it will come with time because age comes at you but he's he's got i'm waiting kind of waiting for him to exhaust himself a bit yeah he so anytime i i've had that thought too before like oh all he has to do is just like tack to the center a little bit. And even if it's completely disingenuous, he can like actually be a successful politician. So this is back before the 2016 election, even like when he was first gaining popularity. We had a writer at Cracked, Adam Todd Brown, who has a podcast now called Unpopular Opinion. But he was the first person who was like, he's going to win. But one of his theories was that he was going to somehow get the African-American vote to
Starting point is 00:33:55 come over to his side. And it was like, it's this idea that he is a normal politician who can be disingenuous, but like so much of what we found out about him is that like, he is who he is. He's a racist. Yeah, exactly. Like he goes back to his racism.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Like he is abusing children of color in these concentration camps that we're going to talk about. And like just recently, like he was asked about the central park five who were children of color who argued should be put to death. Right. It's like, this is,
Starting point is 00:34:32 he is who he's always been. Right. And he can't, he doesn't have the ability to like change. If the last election was like a fast and furious drag race, like he hit the racist rocket fuel and it was able to just like blow past this time you know like i it i think we've seen the limits now and it's really whittled down his base to those people who are like yes full bore racists who are like yes i like this i'm with
Starting point is 00:34:57 this and that's been and it's also his racism has been and xenophobia transphobia homophobia every phobia has been so out there that anybody else is like oh fuck no right so i mean again the one thing though is that this is not going to be a fair election by any stretch of the fucking imagination this dude went on fucking tv and was like hey baby it's open season i might take a look. Right. And even though he himself always says there's nothing, there's no such thing as a free lunch. Everybody knows that. Right. So he has to know, too, some world power comes to you
Starting point is 00:35:31 with, like, maybe some fucking underhanded dirt. Right. I doubt he's going to be able to be like, well, that was free, right? Right. And I don't have to do anything? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We don't have to do any business? I heard a rumor, and I don't know if I'm correct,
Starting point is 00:35:42 that Suge Knight held him by his ankles outside of a hotel room in Atlantic City. I don't know if any of those details are checked. Because that definitely happened to Vanilla Ice. I lied to you. Not Suge Knight. It was, now I know why I said Atlantic City. It was like the mafia in Atlantic City when he came in to build hotels. Oh, interesting.
Starting point is 00:36:00 He did it without addressing the mafia. And I heard it from Jersey people, which make me so happy. I was like, you guys been sitting on this for a while? Right, seriously. Who's got video of this? Let's go. Let's talk about it. He would look so funny hanging upside down.
Starting point is 00:36:11 He would look so funny. And I heard he peed himself. Of course he did. Yeah. So this is the kind of person that I'm like, you show your cards. It's like people have shown him cards before. And I challenge those people to kind of do that. Not necessarily holding his ankles if you want to. That's pretty chill though.
Starting point is 00:36:27 I agree with you that he's really shown racist and homophobia, but to not recognize that, that's the stuff that's mind blowing to me. That you're just like, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:36:38 no. I have, I know what I'm doing here and I know what's right for the, my people. And it's like, homie, what you're saying is is insane well that's what yeah that's uh but that's his worldview and i think yeah that's
Starting point is 00:36:50 why it resonates with people with a very similar worldview and are and also fed the same diet of who to blame for their own disenfranchisement it's never the reality which is accountability capitalism yeah you know it's just always like, it's these immigrants. That's why the GM factory moved, not because we did shitty trade deals and it's just cheaper for the companies to make something else. And we teach you how to be your own person
Starting point is 00:37:14 and navigate and build your own lifestyle and food and water and power and be accountable for your own life. We tell you we've got this and then we make all these bad decisions around you and then we tell you it's colored. It wasn't us. It wasn't us.
Starting point is 00:37:26 It was anybody. It was anybody but you and your church going folk. And it's like, OK. Yeah. So, I mean, first, humanity needs to win the 2020 election. But then we're going to have to deal with the fact that he's not going anywhere without, you know, I don't think he's leaving the White House on his own accord. No. He's going to have to be carried out of there.
Starting point is 00:37:46 By Bruce Willis? And who knows, again, like probably by Bruce Willis. Maybe that's the one person he respects. He's like, come on, Donald, you got to go. All right, Bruce. I don't want to make this messy. Maybe. I mean, I challenge Bruce to give him a call.
Starting point is 00:38:01 I wonder who that one person. I bet there is someone. For sure. Someone came in and said, look, Donald, it's time, bro. You got to get the fuck out. Like, there maybe is a celebrity that he would respect enough. I'd be like, yeah. All right, Mr. T.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Yeah. Mr. T. And I want it to be that. Right. Come on, Donald. I want to see him alone. Because Geraldo Pereira is not the one I want. I'm like, no, it can't be you.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Right. You're not. I have a feeling he's so can't be you. Right. You're not. I have a feeling he's so afraid of LeBron James. You think? Probably. Because in his mind, he's one of these racist people who probably thinks every person of color is a predator. Right.
Starting point is 00:38:36 And he's like, I know, you never know what they could do. I mean, Mr. T, he might be old, but he wears a lot of gold. I feel like he'd be embarrassed to meet LeBron because LeBron's such a classy guy that LeBron would be like, what? And just be like, I can- When it's time to go, Trump, get the fuck out or you're going to get dragged out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Someone.
Starting point is 00:38:55 He'll be shooed out with a broom. Let's talk about Mitch McConnell, who isn't going anywhere for other reasons. He called him Turtle. Turtle fuck. Turtle fuck. I did say that. I did, yeah. He's the fucking destroyer, man.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Yeah. I know, but the name calling where I'm like, turtles are just so chill. Yeah. I would not even want- That's not fair to turtles. Okay, fuck face. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:19 So he argued- Son of a Mitch. He argued, son of a Mitch, that reparations are not necessary because Obama. Essentially, it's what it boils down to. He was asked recently, do you support it? And he said, I don't think reparations for something that happened 150 years ago when none of us currently living are responsible is a good idea. We've tried to deal with our original sin of slavery by fighting a civil war, by passing landmark civil rights legislation.
Starting point is 00:39:50 We've elected an African-American president that I thought I gave every ounce, fiber of my being to fucking thwart. And yes, I mean, wow. Where do we start here? Reparations for something that happened 150 years ago. Not the violent enslavement of African Americans. Just something. You know, just that thing. And I wasn't there, so why do I have to deal with it?
Starting point is 00:40:14 Even though I'm looking at the legacy of it in its face every day. And doing everything in his power to keep the legacy of it alive. Whether that's through racist gerrymandering, restricting voting rights, doing everything in his power to keep the legacy of it alive. Whether that's through racist gerrymandering, restricting voting rights, just anything, everything and anything. But I guess he forgot about all the things that have happened since then. And recently, Ta-Nehisi Coates testified in front of the House about reparations, and he heard what mitch mcconnell said and my god i mean when you go up against somebody who is just a master of a fucking genius with his words um we had to sort
Starting point is 00:40:55 of condense his response down because he did sort of refer to mcconnell's you know take on reparations uh but this is sort of like uh some of the best bits of it from towards the end of his response. We grant that Mr. McConnell was not alive for Appomattox, but he was alive for the electrocution of George Stinney. He was alive for the blinding of Isaac Woodward. He was alive to witness kleptocracy in his native Alabama and a regime premised on electoral theft. Majority Leader McConnell cited civil rights legislation yesterday, as well he should, because he was alive to witness the harassment, jailing, and betrayal of those responsible for that legislation by a government sworn to protect them. He was alive for the redlining of Chicago
Starting point is 00:41:40 and the looting of black homeowners of some four billion dollars. Victims of that plunder are very much alive today. I am sure they'd love a word with the majority leader. The matter of reparations is one of making amends and direct redress, but it is also a question of citizenship. In HR 40, this body has a chance to both make good on its 2009 apology for enslavement and reject fair weather patriotism. To say that a nation is both its credits and its debits. That if Thomas Jefferson matters, so does Sally Hemings. That if D-Day matters, so does Black Wall Street. That if Valley Forge matters, so does Fort Pillow.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Black Wall Street, that if Valley Forge matters, so does Fort Pillow. Because the question really is not whether we will be tied to the somethings of our past, but whether we are courageous enough to be tied to the whole of them. Woo. Wow. So, I mean, that's one side, I guess. But, I mean, Mitch had some good points, too. And that's a rebuttal to someone who goes, I don't think reparations for something that happened 150 years ago.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Yeah. It's so childish. And so devoid of any nuance or real understanding of historically what has happened. I guess because the point being is Mitch McConnell does not want to accept or publicly accept the damage of institutional racism in this country and rather would just be like, let me just brush this off because I can't play on my team and be like, yeah, man, we do need to have a reckoning about slavery.
Starting point is 00:43:13 If you have a reckoning here, you have a reckoning with what Trump said about grabbing a woman by. You have a lot of reckonings. You have a lot of reckonings and you have to backpedal and their thing is not, it is what it is. Yeah. It happened. Well, it's funny because when they backpedal, it thing is not it is what it is yeah it happened well it's funny because when they backpedal it must be a kick stop because the bike just stops
Starting point is 00:43:28 yeah yeah it doesn't go backwards only forward let's get away from the past yeah um and yeah it's uh it's funny because then you have candidates you know like uh who are out here who are really actually trying to address this in many nuanced ways, like with different plans. Cory Booker is a huge proponent of this bill. And Elizabeth Warren has even given recommendations on how she would help if you lived in a redlined area, that you would actually have priority over subsidized mortgages and things like this on a housing plan she's trying to do. So there are people who clearly understand what the effects are. Because look, if you look at the people who descend from slaves and the people who descend from slave owners, I don't think you'll see much equality there.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Nope. And so you tell me if, like, you know, where the fuck are these 40 acres at? Right. And H.R. 40 is a commission to study and develop reparation proposals for African-Americans. reparation proposals for African-Americans. Yeah. The bare minimum you can do considering just the amount of economic impact slavery had on the foundation of this entire country. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:33 But you want to call it something and not actually look the atrocities in its eye. Right. And it's appropriate that he can't use even a word more specific than something there because- I know, so neutral too. I know. Like something. What the fuck? Something that happened.
Starting point is 00:44:52 But I want to talk briefly about the controversy over the word concentration camp, which is referring to something that's happening now in AOC called the U.S. Detention Center's concentration camps during a live stream. And conservatives were like, their culture war spidey sense started a tingling and they were like, we're going to embarrass her. On Fox News, the vice president of the National Border Patrol Council was incensed and said, they're not running a concentration camp because the children they're detaining
Starting point is 00:45:31 are, I swear to God he said this, allowed outside their cells. Yeah. Oh. Their cells. The kids were outside their cells. Like their biological cells. Where they're being detained. The cell they're being held in.
Starting point is 00:45:48 So, I mean. That's the, oh, okay. So, okay. So it's not a. It's not a concentration camp. You're not grouping oppressed minorities without trial and holding them. So it is literally a concentration camp, like based on people who are experts on what concentration camps are, what the definition of that term is. A bunch of experts and historians have pointed out concentration camps aren't exclusive to the Holocaust.
Starting point is 00:46:16 There are instances of concentration camps being erected all over the world. And Trump's camps fit the bill because it's just by definition a mass detention center of civilians without trial that is the definition of a concentration camp there's been concentration camps in France South America South Africa Cuba the Soviet Union and the United States with Japanese internment yep and now fourteen hundred children are being moved to the site of a literal historical concentration camp, Fort Sill in Oklahoma, which was a Japanese internment camp during World War II. They're just like, we better underline this.
Starting point is 00:46:57 I don't think people fully appreciate how fucked what we're doing is. Let's, let's. Well, and everything about the conditions there and from people losing their lives to like stripping away their recreation education access to legal counsel but again this is the only way that the right can maintain their sanity or sense of morality about what they're doing is by probably just they're looking at photos of Auschwitz and comparing that to what they see right now and And they're like, oh, this is nothing like that. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:26 So that's not right. We're not going after religion here. We're not going after that. That's not what we did. And it's wild to me they get that far. Right. But that, again, goes in the 24-hour news cycle. It's like when a bully says something just to stop you, it's like that's the thing about this back and forth debate.
Starting point is 00:47:42 It's like the concept is concentration camps are bad. What is happening is bad. Right. Yeah. It's as simple as that, but they go further to go further to find. They just pick and fight. They fight constantly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Yeah. And I think, yeah, don't let anybody try and disingenuously tell you, oh, well, that's not what's happening. Right. I mean, I don't think one single person who was living in this country would subject themselves to being separated from their families and being put in conditions like this. Never. So from that level, I think maybe just take it there. Would you want to be treated like this?
Starting point is 00:48:13 Right. But then they're going to be like, well, I'm not going to acknowledge just the chance that my parents fucked between these borders. Right. So I don't have to conceptualize what that would be like. Yeah, to conceptualize. The idea of conceptualizing that they were gifted that place on a planet at a time. That's what it is. It's a place on a planet at a time. That's when you're born. That is as basic as it all is. And when you strip it to that, you're like, this is wild that you've made it this far.
Starting point is 00:48:45 One thing that our writer, Jam, pointed out is that the Obama administration actually temporarily housed migrant families at Fort Sill also. And so that's probably something that the conservatives are going to point out. know, the Obama administration pioneered some of the tactics. The Trump administration is now just exacerbating and making far worse by separating families from one another. But just one kind of difference between the two administrations is that were this pointed out and were there a news story about the fact that what the Obama administration was doing was wrong, about the fact that what the Obama administration was doing was wrong, there would be some sort of, you know, acknowledgement of that. And instead, the Trump administration's reaction is to weaponize and try and push in the opposite direction and make it worse and worse because they think it's sort of a battleground, like a front in the culture war that they can win on. So it's just they're completely different things.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Yeah, and this is all terror that's being done in the name of the United States. And our tax dollars are then going and filling the pockets of these people who build these camps, and they just collect another check. Yeah, and then the fact that they're making it part of sort of a military campaign, they're using the language of military, calling it a national emergency and describing it as an invasion when describing immigration. I mean, climate is a natural emergency. It's like ticking every single box except for maybe the death camp part. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Although it's getting there. Yeah. Well, I mean, when you think of Yeah. It's not the actual executions. There's the conditions. Right. Lack of care. That are overcrowding that leads to sickness and death. And this sociologist and expert on historical examples of concentration camps is saying that,
Starting point is 00:50:41 and she was saying this before this controversy over whether concentration camps fit this definition or not. She was saying these are concentration camps, first of all, but also that this is just the beginning. And under the Trump administration, they're going to get worse and bigger. And the fact that the Trump administration recently scrapped education, recreation, and legal services for unaccompanied minor migrant children in federal shelters across the country is really, really a bad sign. Yeah, and I think people need to deal with this, right? If you are a person who is uncomfortable calling this a concentration camp, it's because you are uncomfortable with the idea that these people are being treated like that. Right. And I would really, you know, I feel like most listeners of this show aren't here to be like, to hear to split hairs semantically over what a concentration camp is.
Starting point is 00:51:32 But for anyone that might not, like really, like even then, I don't know if people will actually even read about it. But fuck, just consider why you feel uncomfortable by that. Right. Because it's again, it's this idea that people are being treated inhumanely, being denied their own dignity, humanity, in the name of some kind of fucking made-up crisis. And you're worried that they're bad people. That's what you think, they're bad people. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:02 And it's just, stop thinking they're bad people. Right it's just it's stop thinking they're bad people. They're coming here to get away from a bad situation. People like it's it's stop it and there is enough room and there is enough space and there is enough work and there is enough abundance on this planet for people to live well and happy. And this narrative they've been throwing at you through capitalism is not real. happy and this narrative they've been throwing at you through capitalism is not real right and the more we learn that the more we'll feel comfortable when people can economically make more money with peace they will go that way yeah for sure yeah but don't forget they're allowed outside of their self yeah they're allowed outside of their self like basically royalty they're being treated like royalty they're allowed outside you think that person like like, says that to themselves so they can go to sleep?
Starting point is 00:52:46 Right. They're allowed outside of their cells. Right. Well, because they think they're- Like summer camp, basically. Yeah. They're like, listen, we're not hitting them. They go back into the cell.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Yeah. And we don't even know that because there's plenty of reports of abuse within these detention centers. So just keep in mind your fearless leader's track record on, you know, how he treats children of color. track record on how he treats children of color, he still refuses to apologize to the five men who he demanded be put to death in a full-page New York Times article. Even though they've been exonerated by DNA evidence, he refuses to apologize or acknowledge even. He's like, oh, there are people on both sides of this. It's DNA evidence, dude.
Starting point is 00:53:29 It's not. Which side of the DNA? Right. It's, again, connecting Trump and OJ. It's dioxiribosonucleic acid. So what side of the oxide is it? You're so good at it. I'm pretty good.
Starting point is 00:53:44 It's so good. Gotta go. Yep. so good at it. I'm pretty good. It's so good. Gotta go. Yep. Trump gets all smart. Then he would win. Yeah. If he got all smart. That ain't happening.
Starting point is 00:53:53 I know. Yeah. Thank God. I know. Thank God. All right. We're going to take another quick break. We'll be right back.
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Starting point is 00:56:57 and this is season four of Naked Sports where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them. Why is that? Just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch.
Starting point is 00:57:27 She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:57:50 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. All right, guys. So we have learned that Leonardo DiCaprio is more influential than we had ever dreamed. We've talked before on The Daily Zeitgeist about a rumor that goes around certain corridors in Hollywood that Leonardo DiCaprio is known to make love by putting on noise-canceling headphones, sitting on his back, and vaping while... You can't call that making love. The second you introduce vaping and headphones... Dude, it's fucking. Right.
Starting point is 00:58:37 He fucks with noise-canceling headphones on and vapes. Yes. Anything in the noise-cancelings? Music? They say MGMT. MGMT. MGMT. Shock me like an electric eel. Say baby girl.
Starting point is 00:58:51 I saw them live. I think Leo was there. Yeah. Is this from women who have been? Yeah. So this is from a study from some place called Tick Pick. Right. And now.
Starting point is 00:59:02 That story, the Leonardo DiCaprio story is not from that. Is not from that. It is just from people who've had sex. A rumor that's been around forever. Yes. But there's, so that's why it feeds into this story, right? So Tick Pick, they did a quote unquote study. I'm not sure how sound this is, but again, this is a second grade podcast and this is
Starting point is 00:59:20 all for- We make sound puns. Exactly. That's what we are. So anyway, what they did was they said they surveyed 1,010 people online via Amazon's Mechanical Turk. I don't know what that is. Of the 1,010 participants polled, 54-
Starting point is 00:59:33 Mechanical Turk is the dude who was in a robot costume who beat people at chess back in the day. Oh, right. And who now is at Comic-Con. That's a great booth. And Mechanical Turk. Wow. We're just so illiterate of history that people are just like dying.
Starting point is 00:59:52 They're like, oh my God, this robot just kicked my ass in the chest. Holy shit. Whoa. 54% of respondents were male, 45% were female, 0.4% identified as non-binary. Additionally, 59.2% of the sample identified as millennials. 28% were Gen X. 10% were boomers. And the remaining 1% were Gen Z.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Or the silent generation. Is the silent generation older than baby boomers? Wait, did you just say Gen Z has slept with Leo? No, no, no. These are people who actually responded to this. Okay. No, these, no. These are people who actually respond to this. Although, probably.
Starting point is 01:00:28 No, these are just respondents. The thousand people who responded to this. Oh, yeah. I guess that's what they call the greatest generation is the silent generation. The silent generation. I didn't know that. I only know what Tom Brokaw said when I came up with the idea of the greatest generation. So, yeah. See, there's some of the stats that they have.
Starting point is 01:00:42 Now, we're taking this with an entire fucking bowl of salt. But they said songs of satisfaction, 50% of respondents were satisfied with their sex life overall. Now, breaking it down by genre. Country music fans, 66.3% were satisfied with their sex life. The most satisfied. Blues, 64%. And they said at 16 minutes, on average, blues fans lasted the longest in bed.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Wow. Jazz at 63.2. Give it up to Muddy Waters. They say, another stat, hip-hop rap fans, least likely to give oral sex. Yeah, duh. Not true. Too busy. Oh, really? I'm eating
Starting point is 01:01:24 it all. Hometown buffet. Aren busy. Oh, really? I'm eating it all. Hometown buffet. Aren't you mixed, though? Yeah, but that doesn't mean I can't like hip hop. I know. I just want to make sure. Oh, no, no. Hey, look.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Eating ain't cheating, is what they say. If you're MC Chris. That's an MC Chris album, okay? I don't cheat. They say nearly one in four folk fans had cried during sex. Does that make sense? I don't you uh they say nearly so folk fans nearly one in four folk fans had cried during sex does that make sense i don't know i guess i don't want to like jump to stereotypes but i guess like someone is so overcome i'm hoping that's what it is because i've been in situations where people are like emotionally overcome or overwhelmed by orgasm folk song that give me an example. When you're down in trouble.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Oh, yeah. Yeah. And you need a helping hand. Nothing, nothing's going right. Yeah, I mean, if you're listening to music
Starting point is 01:02:16 while you're having sex and that's the music you're listening to. Yeah, I wonder if, but are you crying because of the music you fuck to? Are you crying
Starting point is 01:02:22 because of the act? Like, are they trying to say folk? Like, that's what I'm saying. Like, what is the causing the cry? Emotions are honestly okay, I think.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Yeah. No. Actually, maybe that's the angle we should be taking is that. Yeah. Let's see what crime means in this context and maybe. That's what I'm trying to figure out. Cause then if it's like the music,
Starting point is 01:02:36 I'm like, damn, you were really feeling that. Right. You know, whatever album. Like, I don't have experience with women crying,
Starting point is 01:02:42 but they're always laughing when we have sex. Right. And like, I think that that's like cool too. Well, that's cause you're always laughing when we have sex. Right. And, like, I think that that's, like, cool, too. Well, that's because you're playing the Dane Cook album when you have sex. Which is ironically called Harmful If Swallowed. Laughing and pointing? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:54 Some other facts. Talking about positions. By the highest... But people are going to want to know who's the least sexually satisfied. Okay, so... Pop music. Oh, yeah. Pop music fans, 57.2% were the least. satisfied okay so pop music oh yeah oh yeah the pop music
Starting point is 01:03:05 fans 57.2 were the least they were at the bottom right um k-pop just pop just like if you like that pop music that top 40 bullshit talk about and so now we're talking about respondent's favorite sexual position overall doggy style yeah okay then Okay, then missionary, then cowgirl, spooning, reverse cowgirl. By the highest percentage of music genre fans, the most consistent doggy style for hip hop and rap fans. Okay, great album also. Shout out to Snoop Dogg. For boring ass missionary, 32.9% pop music fans.
Starting point is 01:03:38 Listen, I kind of still like missionary. Keep going. Okay. I mean, look, you can spice it up. It's all up to you. Listen, I like to have my noise-canceling headphones on, and I like to vape. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:47 And just blow it right into their face. And blindfolds. Yeah. Yeah. And just complete sensory deprivation. Put on that new Carly Rae Jepsen album. Sensory deprivation. Just a little hole in the top of my sensory deprivation tank.
Starting point is 01:04:01 One thing I did find interesting, so when it comes to percentage using contraceptives during sex by preferred music genre, the safest group, heavy metal fans. Yeah. Huh. 65%.
Starting point is 01:04:13 Then indie rock, then hip hop, then alternative. The lowest percentage of people using contraception during sex, country fans, 49.9%. America. Yeah. Yeah. They want to- Multiply, baby. Multiply. That%. America. Yeah. Yeah. They want
Starting point is 01:04:26 to... Multiply, baby. Multiply. And then the damning one, as we said, 17% have their AirPods in while having sex. Yeah. What? 17% of respondents said that they have had sex while wearing
Starting point is 01:04:41 AirPods. Yes. Now I do wonder if that is just forgetting to take them out? Well, they said it could be for, they didn't even have, they didn't ask too much for a reason, but it seemed like they were pointing to the fact that it was people who were- Come better?
Starting point is 01:04:57 Well, no. Maybe they're listening to different music than their partner. I could see it being an intimate thing if one of you has one AirPod and the other has the other. But you're saying same song. Just put the fucking stereo on. Same song.
Starting point is 01:05:11 But that's the thing. That's what the report is saying, is that people have found what works for them. Right. Oh, is AirPod fucking? And now this whole year, or this whole year, our whole lives are like, put some music on for you both. And it's like, some people are like, I don't like that music.
Starting point is 01:05:26 And so they want to listen to their own and still have the feelings. So it's very her-like. Yes. Like that distance. It reminds me of that scene in The Third Black Mirror, the entire history of you, where they're having sex
Starting point is 01:05:41 and reliving their hottest night. Oh, right. But then you cut back to them having sex and they're just like, uh, uh. Their eyes are just the grossest, most uh. Because they're not accepting who they are now in the
Starting point is 01:05:56 moment. Anyways, I will just say, if you find yourself holding up one finger to your partner and saying, sorry, go for Brentnt yeah on it while while taking a phone call nothing man no literally nothing man bro all right bro gotta go all right what's up girl miles you're gross you're a gross man i know and i fuck with airpods in the thing is they're not even even AirPods. They're wired headphones.
Starting point is 01:06:30 I was going to say, Miles probably does a little asphyxiation of himself with his wireless. It's his gorgeous dangles in their face. I'm sorry, the cord keeps getting in your mouth. No way is that person apologizing for that. And no, I won't stop listening to Toto Africa. It helps you set a baseline rhythm. I love the way from you. If you want me to last for more than one minute. Zeitgang, if you like to make love to music, let us know what song.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Oh, look. I'll tell you right now. D'Angelo Voodoo. That whole album. Okay. Just fuck right now to it, everybody. Now. Right now, put D'Angelo Voodoo on.
Starting point is 01:07:06 My goodness, your blood will boil out your skin. Also, if you had sex listening to this episode about having sex listening to this. Please turn it off now and watch. Now I'm going to fuck it up for you. Oh, yeah. Now I'm in your room with you. Yeah, that is weird. Yo, could you imagine people fucking the podcast?
Starting point is 01:07:23 Yeah. That probably happens. Yeah. Let me happens. Yeah. Let me figure out what's going on here. That's disrespect. Yo, if you fuck with a podcast playing music, like, yeah. But like, that's like if, I mean. You're absorbing information still?
Starting point is 01:07:36 Yeah. Genetic information. Genetic information. That dioxiribosuclidic acid. Talk about guanidine, adenine, cytosine, and tyrosine. Letters that spell Gattaca also. Coincidence? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Maybe. So I think when you think about a podcast, though, that's like passive entertainment. I get it like, yo, the Netflix and chill thing. That's more of just an entry point into lovemaking. If you're both listening to the same podcast, not as bad, I think. Yeah, but what would... Could you imagine, though? Here's my take. Everybody's heads are shaking. I think. Yeah, but what would... Could you imagine, though? Here's my take.
Starting point is 01:08:06 Everybody's heads are shaking. I think you could be listening to something. I think I have... What about audiobooks? You know what I mean? People get down doing a lot of stuff. And I think podcasts are a part of the norm now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:17 And I do think that might be something sexy, what she said. And I just wrote down Chernobyl podcast. Okay, maybe that one. Yeah, that one's fair. It's very, and it really expands on the source material.
Starting point is 01:08:28 I can only become aroused if I'm listening to Peter Sagal's voice. Oh, yeah. So either wait, wait, don't tell me or the Chernobyl podcast. Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 01:08:36 Wait, wait. Wait, wait. Don't tell me. Don't go again. Don't go again. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Tell me. Don't touch it.
Starting point is 01:08:42 Don't touch it. I'm going to take a breath. I'm going to breathe it out. I'm going to breathe it out. Speaking of Chernobyl, guys, real quick wait, wait, wait. Tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me. Don't touch it, don't touch it, don't touch it. I'm going to take a breath. I got to breathe it out. I got to breathe it out. Speaking of Chernobyl, guys, real quick. Chernobyl, we're all fans here. We've all seen Chernobyl now. Miles, you got around.
Starting point is 01:08:53 I'm so sorry. Look, it was heavy. Still tried to get into when they see us. I'm sorry I was talking to my dad. We were both like, I got to let that one rest for a second. Chernobyl, though, my goodness. It was one of those things I was worried it was just going to be a a bummer it is right however it's about sort of this you sort of get hooked on the pursuit of the truth in what had actually
Starting point is 01:09:15 occurred because they presented in a way where like again like they even said in the podcast my idea was some shit went down something, everything got all messed up and radioactive and people had to leave. Right. And that was it. I knew nothing else. Yeah. And then when you sort of break it down, you're like, oh goodness. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:32 So many people had to go through such unnecessary shit for no good reason. And to be honest, a wake up call into understanding the plants around you. Right. To be completely honest, to understand as a person living anywhere near any type of plant, power plant, nuclear plant, to understand a little bit more and what your surroundings are. What the potential is for something to go wrong.
Starting point is 01:09:52 Yeah. Yeah. Because we so blindly live there and it's usually cheaper real estate, to be completely honest with you. And that is for the reason. And then to not know what is there and around you. And today our power lines, like people not knowing that too much too.
Starting point is 01:10:04 It's, it's weird. And I think that show and the podcast do a really great job of guiding you through it. Yeah. It's wild. Well, anyways, speaking of pursuit of the truth, we're going to get a second whack at the Chernobyl disaster. This time, not from HBO, but from Russia, Russian television. Like state TV.
Starting point is 01:10:25 Yeah, Russian state TV, basically. Have they ever put out a show before? I think so, yeah. It's called Look Away Now. News what? No, no, no, no, no. So there is a conspiracy theory in Russia that Chernobyl was caused by a CIA agent who went in and basically caused the problem. So the conspiracy theory, I think, is that there were actually nuclear weapons at Chernobyl,
Starting point is 01:10:56 and they sabotaged the nuclear weapons facility. So then in that version, the Russian state recognizes that Chernobyl was a nuclear weapons facility? So then in that version, the Russian state recognizes that Chernobyl was a nuclear weapons facility? Yes, in this version. Oh, so it was a power plant and they had a little side hustle. They were enriching uranium for warheads. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:11:17 They are admitting to that? Well, they have to create. That's the only way this theory works, right? Well, the thing was we were making weapons there and that's why the CIA came, not because they were like. They didn't release the name of the CIA agent. They don't have that. They just. No.
Starting point is 01:11:32 Okay, they don't have that. I think the CIA agent is made up. Yeah. Fictional character. But it's interesting because Pravda is the Russia state run TV network and media outlet. state-run TV network and media outlet, and they've published several negative articles about the HBO Chernobyl and are really not happy with that. But then the rest of the media in Russia, it's not like everybody in Russia is like, fuck you, HBO. The rest of the media in Russia is like, wow, it's really good. And their attention to detail is amazing because they got like all these little aspects of life in the Soviet Union.
Starting point is 01:12:07 Right. But the Russia state TV still not having it, man. Well, right. And it's one of those things, too, where the effects of it were so widespread that unless you were just a true Soviet, you might not have been willing to just swallow the explanations, especially when you saw how many people who were affected by the radiation. Right. And be like, oh, it's chemical stuff? I don't know, because I know a lot of... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:29 Well, yeah, well. Is it in production yet? Do they have a writer and a director attached? They have a director, and she has promised to tell the real story of what actually went down. Yeah, it will be Julia Louis-Dreyfus. And Steven Seagal. Yeah, I bet you did. He story of what actually went down. Yeah, it will be Julia Louis-Dreyfus. And Steven Seagal.
Starting point is 01:12:45 Yeah. Yeah, I bet you did. He's going to have to be. Yeah, yeah. Oh, he'll play the CIA agent? Probably. Do you think he would be willing to play himself like that? Not to play himself, but to make himself the evildoer in this?
Starting point is 01:12:58 I don't know. Has he played a bad guy? He has, right? He is a bad guy. I know, but that's the thing. That's like Trump would never want to be in a... That's why he was such a bad host of SNL is they're like, okay, so you're evil. And he's like, what?
Starting point is 01:13:11 It was great in the lobby of Home Alone. Right, exactly. Yeah. Oh, he was so good in that. Well, Steven Seagal, please stand up and wipe off your pain and care. In your own time. Yeah. JC, it's been so fun having you.
Starting point is 01:13:24 Where can people find you, follow you? Absolutely. I'm on Instagram at JC Coakley. It's a very Italian name. J-C-C-O-C-C-O-L-I. And I will be in London July 1 through 12 doing my premiere of my one hour Coal Country, spelled C-U-N-T-R-Y.
Starting point is 01:13:42 And it's about our cross-country green journey that America's on. And I'll be performing over at London Climate Week while I'm there. Oh, nice. Which will be really cool. Very cool. London, Zeitgang, pull up.
Starting point is 01:13:54 Yeah, Zeitgang, pull up. Pull up. Fish and chips. Is there a tweet or other act of social media that you've been enjoying? Oh, yeah. The tweet that I liked. Can it be my tweet? Oh, yeah. Of course.'ve been enjoying? Oh, yeah. The tweet that I liked. Can it be my tweet?
Starting point is 01:14:07 Oh, yeah. Of course. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We prefer it to be. Okay, cool. I mean, I know for a fact that there's better ones, but the panic I feel trying to give
Starting point is 01:14:18 a barista exact change is ungodly. I feel like I did a really good job with that, and it's really true. I'm an exact change person. Yeah, exact changes. And then people are like, hurry up, lady. Right, right. Hold on, I got these pennies.
Starting point is 01:14:34 They're heavy. They're nickel. I learned about nickel and Chernobyl. There you go. Miles, how about you? Where can people find you? Oh, my goodness. Yes, find me on Twitter, Instagram, Weibo, Facebook, Spacebook, MySpace, at Miles of Grey.
Starting point is 01:14:53 A tweet I like is actually from an image that someone from the Zagang had tweeted at me. Ed, at Don Pulgo. And it's a photo of a building sort of collapsing, but it's only being held up by like three poles. And the collapsed building is Biden 2020. And the things holding it up are MSNBC, CNN and NPR. Very apt. Very apt. Very apt, sir.
Starting point is 01:15:18 Very apt. Some tweets I've been enjoying. Sorenb Bowie tweeted, if I was one of the guys in a boxer's corner, I'd try to have something nice for him every time the bell dings, like orange slices or a card or something. And Joe Randazzo tweeted,
Starting point is 01:15:34 I'm the Chernobyl engineer in the hospital bed saying, I did everything right. I did everything right as my face melts off. Uh, you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes
Starting point is 01:15:53 and our footnotes. We'll link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we write out on. Miles, what's up? This song. Let's do one from actually Madison McFerrin who is the Child of Bobby
Starting point is 01:16:09 Yes She is fucking very talented So is her brother Taylor They're just a very talented family This track is from her and it's very much like On the acapella vibe but she's also Bringing her own flave It's called Insane from Madison McFerrin.
Starting point is 01:16:25 Yeah. Talented family, those McFerrins. Yeah. If you only think Bobby McFerrin was a one-hit wonder, he's like one of the great vocalists of the past. Vocal control out of control. Yeah, yeah. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio.
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