The Daily Zeitgeist - Morgan Free-Menghazi, More Like The Fart Of The Deal 5.24.18

Episode Date: May 24, 2018

In episode 155, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and Culture King Jacquis Neal to discuss Wired magazine's article on the Pentagon's declassified UFO info, Menghazi with Morgan Freeman, Trump's cancelation of the North Korea peace talks summit plus excerpts from Trump's 'The Art Of The Deal,' the Buck's Sterling Brown being tased by police, Weinstein planning on turning himself in, the controversial new film 'Show Dogs,' and more!  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Shit, I don't... Oh, actually, I made that up today. Oh. That's why I don't know the person's name. Who was that courtesy of? Oh, me. And I am thrilled. I always know it's a good AKA when Super Producer Ana Hosnia touches the inside of her nose,

just like she can barely handle her secondhand embarrassment. And I am thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Where's it gonna be? Cause I can't wait to know. Don't you wanna be more than friends Hold me mild and don't let go Don't let go You have the miles to lose control

Don't let go Yes! And boom! There's a really dramatic drum fill Yes! En Vogue! There's a really dramatic drum fill going into that chorus. Thank you for that En Vogue-inspired, you know, let me flex my pipes and my falsetto to Igor Iggy Pop My Collar on Twitter. And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat

by one of the all-time greats, one of the culture kings. He is Jacquees Neal. Oh. Neal Love. Boom, boom, boom, boom. I'm searching for that Neal Love. Yeah. Someone to set my heart free.

Neal Love. Oh. I'm searching for that Neil Love. Oh, shout out to Mr. T. Kellen T. Yo, you can't. Don't be coming out here with your actual singing voice. You know what I mean?

You're doing embarrassing. Neil Love. There you go. There you go. There you go. Oh, is that from Mr. Kellen T? Mr. Kellen T. Yeah, he's hit me with a few.

Yeah, shout out. Shout out. What's up, guys? Jack Keith, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Recently, I was searching for ways to get into Club 33. Oh, at Disneyland. Which is a Disneyland. Not going to happen unless you got a wild plug over there.

But I was like, all right, is there somebody? Even though I have a girlfriend, I was like, is there somebody, even though like I'm, yeah, I have a girlfriend. I was like, is there somebody I could date to get into it? Or is there somebody like, you know, like just become a friend. I'll do whatever. I just want to go and see it. Yeah.

I have a friend who's gone twice now through like various connections. I think it was like someone high up at Disney they knew that got him in there. But yeah, I mean, isn't that waiting list? Like, cause you got to be in that club, right? There's like a lifetime long waiting list to even be able to look at the door to Club 33. It's crazy. I looked up. So once I looked that up, I was like, all right, well, how do you get in?

Also, let people know if they don't know if they're not real Disney heads. Yeah. So Club 33 is like this exclusive club at Disneyland. It's the only place in Disneyland, the park, that sells alcohol. It's a bar. And that's kind of all you know. They keep it pretty hush-hush. They have events and stuff there, like special events for their people.

But only the most exclusive. It's not even like you have to be rich. No. Yeah, yeah. Because if you had to be rich, then so many rich people would be in it. But you have to know somebody and get lucky. Like a member of this club or whatever to get in there. They also proofed it to lazy people.

Because I was like, all right, well, how do I join the list? And they were like, well, you got to write a letter. And I was like, well, fuck that. That's it. I'm sure there's a lot of Disney heads, I think, in the Zeitgang. Look, if one of you has the plug for Jaquese to go, because Jaquese is a – You are a disciple of Disney heads, I think, in the Zeitgang. If one of you has the plug for Jaquese to go, because Jaquese is a... You are a disciple of Disney.

A disciple. True Disney head. He just doesn't want to write that letter. I'm just lazy. Jaquese, he is devoted. He will come on a second-rate podcast and put his hat out and say, who's got the connection?

I'm sure somebody does. Any engineers out there? Yeah, everyone I hear that goes in there, they're like, it's really cool because the decor is living and everything and the food is good. I mean, I'm just picturing the Eyes Wide Shut scene, that party scene,

except instead of the weird masks, they're wearing Disney hats. They're wearing Disney hats with no bottoms, just the hats. You're like, oh my God. You're like, this is a fuck party? That would be fucking amazing. Yeah, Club 33 was just a fuck party.

It's just all misdirection. They're like, yeah, it's an exclusive place that sells alcohol. It's the hottest fuck party in Anaheim. I love it. What is something that is overrated? Something that is overrated? Children intelligence. Children's intelligence.

Yes. Okay. I think too many parents think their kids are smart. Oh, okay. So the parents' assessment of their children's intelligence? Yeah, the parents' assessment of their children's intelligence. Now, I know some kids may be a little bit more advanced than others, but left to their own devices, every child would kill themselves. Yeah, yeah, for sure. If they, you know, you know so and then you know you learn and stuff like that but the thing that

bothers me and i've just been dealing with this recently are parents who like the kid will be like one year old and the kid will say something and then the adult would be like that's not true and then the parent would be like well you know little Timmy is a real smart one. No, he's fucking not. He's one years old. He doesn't know shit. That's what happens at parental pride. I know Jack knows something about that.

So they're disagreeing with you and saying, wait, my son is really smart. Yeah. It's dumb. What was the actual point of contention? Like what was said and the one year old had an opinion on. Right, right, right.

So the point of contention was like something that like happened and it was like, oh, well, so-and-so did this and I was like, no, that's not true. It was like something fantastical.

Right, right. And I was like, no, you're using your imagination. Yeah, he turned a bird into that ball. Yeah, and then it was like, no, you're using your imagination. Yeah, he turned a bird into that ball. Yeah, and then I was like, well, you know, he has a pretty good memory and he's pretty smart.

I was like, okay, dude. All right, okay. Like, if you say so. Okay, so not only is your one-year-old smart, he a fucking sorcerer too? Right, right.

Yeah. I mean, I don't have that problem because my son will, like, point at a couch and be like, big truck! And you're like,

yes! I'm like, yeah, exactly. You're like, we call him Mensa. Right, exactly. But you know what? don't have that problem because my son will like point at a couch and be like big truck yeah yes i'm like yeah exactly you're like we're calling mensa right but you know what i respect that because that's a kid like yeah he'll learn i mean encourage your kids but don't puff your chest out to adults you know and be like you know you heard the sky is not actually blue yeah according to my i think i have the reverse problem because my son loves dancing. He loves music. And we were at this public event at a museum, and he started dancing.

And this DJ came out and started playing good music. My son started dancing. And then he kind of got a dance party going. And all these people who were there were like, he's a great dancer. And I was like, not really. Not really. He's not on beat

or anything. He just feels good about it. Right. He's like, you can tell he's feeling the music. He's not like a good dancer. You're like actually assessing, I mean,

he's no turbo from breaking. Right. But yeah, he's got a step or two, but I think that's the thing. He's an enthusiastic dancer. Yeah, that's all that's good.

Yeah. I mean, that's all we can ask for. But I like how you're even sort of trying to be really objective. You're like, well, you know, he off beat. Yeah. He's not really isolating that dancer. Yeah, that's all that's good. I mean, that's all we can ask for. But I like how you're even sort of trying to be really objective. You're like, well, you know, he offbeat. He's not really isolating that well. Like, I don't want him to hear that, that he's a good dancer,

because then he's just going to be a bad dancer his whole life. He's going to be a bad dancer for the rest of his life. He was like, oh, that's how you dance? Right. All right. Yeah. Doesn't he have some weird affectation, you're saying, where he'd be like doing like a hand wipe?

Oh, yeah, he's like doing a weird like hand wipe across his mouth which i don't i don't know man it's like his own move it's like yeah yeah it's real that's the heartbreaker one thing we see is a lot of videos of his son dancing i'm like yo i it's it's nice to see that warms my heart when you see little kids it's like yeah just feel the music just feeling themselves so much the world around you is crumbling i love how old your kid? He's two. He just turned two. All right. Yeah.

And he, I mean, he really feels music. Like he will turn on his CD and like start bopping his head and look at you and then turn it up. Oh. So, I mean, that is one thing you can say for him is he enjoys it. And that's all I care about. I can't wait till you're the proud parent at the VIP section of the Coachella main stage where your son is just the most lit DJ and like, yeah, y'all feeling this?

Feeling that music. Single tears streaming down your eyes. Right, right. All right, Jacquees, what is something that is underrated? Let me hit y'all with this. Miles, you may know something about this. Okay.

Bidets are underrated. Bidets. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Bid this. Uh-oh. Miles, you may know something about this. Okay. Bidets are overrated. Bidets. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Bidets. Clean your butt with water. Oh, boy. Let me tell you. If you still just using tissue, listen, man.

Get in the game. You ain't in the game. And at first, for years, I was like, oh, you using tissue? I use baby wipes. Nah. Taking it up a notch. If you still using baby wipes, your ass ain't clean, man.

So did you just get one of those seat attachments? Yeah. $40 on Amazon. Wow. Is it easy to hook up to? It was like 10 minutes to hook it up. And you, and full disclosure, you do work for this company, correct?

I work for this company, so let me plug, you know, let me plug them real quick. No, yeah, yeah. It has changed my pooping life. Do you have the squatty potty too? I don't.

Oh, that would be the most, then you would have the most lit fecal setup ever. Bowel movement zone. It's the best thing, dude. Yeah. And mine has the thing where you can adjust the pressure. So, like, if it gets too high, then you start getting water up your ass and that doesn't feel great. You don't need a colonic.

You don't need it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Unless you do. Yeah, unless you do. Unless you do. Hey, but if you're having pressure, wash the driveway in a little bit. You know what I mean?

Kind of bring it back to life. Maybe you turn up the pressure. I know in Japan, it's a big thing, right? Most of the seats, most people when they go to Japan, they're like, the toilet seats are warm. And then a thing will, right? Most of the seats, like most people when they go to Japan, they're like, the toilet seats are like warm.

And then like a thing will like, there's like an invisible bidet. Yes, we've been on that shit for a while. But the biggest thing is, you know, sometimes wiping does not suffice. And you just need to just, the cleansing power of a water stream is just great. It's great for you. Let me even expand on that. Just in general. is just great.

It's great for you. Let me even expand on that. Just in general, like, if you roll around in dirt, in like mud, and then just get a dry paper towel and wipe yourself off, you still dirty.

Right. You can still see the mud smears. Right. So at least use a baby wipe. Yeah. At least use a baby wipe. And if you want to get to that next level, get yourself a bidet.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. We're just making changes over here. Y'all got bidets? Anybody in there? No. I don't.

I had one for, I Airbnb'd a house once that had one. You never left. He's been there ever since. Yeah. I definitely need to. I did not know that was a $40 addition. Was it a European style or was it one with the fancy toilet seat? Fancy toilet seat.

Oh, the whole thing. You can get a more expensive. You can get one that's like $300 that has heated toilet seats and heated water and shit like that. Yeah, the most lit ones are made by Toto. Toto Wash Lit. Yeah, shout out to Japanese ingenuity. Although, who knows who invented it first. But yeah, shout out to the bidet in general.

Shout out. Shout out. Hit us up with your bidet stories. The first time you used a bidet, how did it change your life? Take a picture, take a photo of yourself the moment the bidet hits you so we can capture that moment. Everyone's saying, my first bidet. First bidet selfie.

Or like... Also, you ever pay attention to the face you make when you wipe your ass? No. Think about that next when you wipe your ass? No. Think about that next time you wipe your ass. So if you make a face while you do it. Like if it's like a cocked eyebrow, a pursed lip, you know? I probably do like... Just be aware of the face you make when you're wiping your butt.

I probably curl my lip. Probably curl it. I think mine's just a lot of like downtrodden self-reflection. They're like, I'm wiping again. It's never ending. Or it's like the- It's like an existential crisis. Or the puppy dog guilt. Every time they poop, they just look guilty.

Right. And sad. Jacquees, what is a myth? What's something most people think is true that based on your personal experience you know to be false? All right. Let me tell y'all something about love real quick oh now a lot of people think if you're in a relationship and it's a new relationship and you say the i love you's that's the first big step to love that's not you want to know when you're really in love when you first fart in front of your partner

oh wow that's when the real love kicks in. And it's not like a secret. You're just like, I'm gonna go ahead and rip this real quick. I'm gonna be me. I'm gonna be me. Especially if it's like your girlfriend with, I mean well, we woke in here. So if it's your partner who doesn't like farting, cause you know

some of us, we cool with it. I'm fine with farting, you know. It's part of the human condition. But if you get somebody who doesn't and they do it in front of you, that's the moment they fell in love with you. Or that's when they trust you. They're willing to be themselves. It's funny, but you also meet people who are like, I don't fart. Yes, you do.

And you're like, come the fuck on. You fart. And if you don't, what's your secret? I want to know exactly what your diet is. Yeah, like can we take you to a doctor and be like, are they just able to process gas in such a way that they don't fart? Yeah, yeah. You're nodding your head, Anahosnia.

What's going on? Do you know people that don't fart? Oh, okay. I thought you were like, I know mutants that don't fart. Yeah, if you don't fart, you're dying. And I'm sure, but you know what? There will be people who will say, because I've had this discussion too where they're like,

oh, I could never do that. Like some things just need to be private. And then at that point, then there's no secrets and it's disgusting. And some things need to be a mystery. But like, yo, it's not like, I don't know. I just see that as part of the human body, how you exist. So don't come out of far chain. And it ain't like you taking poops in front of each other.

Oh, I do. Miles is the only one in here who's truly been in love. No, I'm not. I'm like a private pooper. Like, I got it. Like, get out the house, I'm like a private pooper. I got it. I'm like, get out the house, everybody. I'm the same way. I need my time.

Yeah. When you've been married 10 years, man. That's nothing. That is nothing. Yeah, you're just like, you're almost rolling your eyes through this whole conversation. Yeah, the farting. Yeah, cool, guy. Is there any social movement for more fart-positive cultures,

like a workplace where people can just let rip? Well, I guess, I don't know. You are sort of invading someone's space. Yeah, that's true. It's like olfactory assault if you are just farting because I would be like, yo, what the fuck? I'm not trying to smell your colon. You know what I mean? Go fart.

Maybe what you could do is create a farting booth yeah whatever you know i mean that would be the worst or just be like i have to step outside i have to fart yeah but a farting booth it's like silenced but also like do you remember in uh the rock when they're open they're diffusing that bomb the gas comes out they turn on the vent and it's like sucking all the gas out so like you're getting one of those nobody has to hear the vent comes on you come out and you're good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'll excuse myself to fart, but only, like, to a corner of the room where nobody's at.

Yeah. Oh, one time, let me tell you. Oh, shit, I'm about to tell this shit. So when I was, like, in high school, I was going on a date with somebody, or we were kicking it at her house, and I had to fart. And, like, she left the room. She said she had to go do something. I thought I was going to have, like, a good minute or so. And I farted. And I heard the door open. She was coming back in the house or whatever.

I attempted to inhale all of the fart smell in an attempt to cover up the crime. Now, I don't know what logic I was applying, but I was like. Let me put this back in my body. Yeah, I didn't know. Like trying to jump on a grenade. Yeah, exactly. The desperate attempt of a 15-year-old trying to hide their farts. Oh, you know she smelled it.

She's just insane now. Yeah, and we ended up dating, so it all worked out. I would have an entire six-hour evenings ruined. Like back before I realized I was mildly lactose intolerant, I would have just whole nights where I was just like holding it in and you're just like so fucking uncomfortable. It's so uncomfortable, dude. There's not much you can do.

The pain of holding in the farts throughout a date is probably one of the biggest tests of strength a human can endure. You know what I mean? Like that's when you really, you get a stomach ache. It's personal character. Yeah.

It builds character. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, let's get into the stories that people are thinking and talking about right now I always want to check in with the UFO story because the first time Jackie's came on the New York Times had just reported that UFOs were a thing they had interviewed a guy who had just left the Pentagon. This was back in December of 2017. There's been not that much reported since then. There's a Wired article that tries to kind of shoot holes in the New York Times article,

but none of their arguments really make me disbelieve. How are they trying to poke holes in this? Well, they say there's not a very clear chain of command on some of those videos that they were saying were being declassified by the Department of Defense. They were saying that those actually it wasn't clear that they were being declassified or that they had ever been classified by the Department of Defense. defense but and then they said that you know the testimony from the airline pilot who spoke about seeing that tic-tac like flying object it was not clear that he was talking about the tic-tac object that we see in the video but if anything that just makes me believe more yeah if you have two independently verified examples of somebody seeing the same physically impossible thing in the sky. Right.

And it being declassified doesn't mean it didn't happen. It means that somebody just broke the rules and let it out. Yeah, or someone didn't realize what it was. They're like, oh, this needs to be classified. But, yeah, that doesn't change the substance of what the video is in my mind. And then what it turns out, the Pentagon, some little investigative journalism out in Las Vegas, these people obtained a 13-page document that was prepared for the military that analyzed what happened in that video. And even then they're like, it could have been this or that. But even they're saying that the pilots who went to go investigate the thing were clear that they knew it was something, and it was very serious.

So, I don't know. It doesn't really change anything. They call it an anomalous aerial vehicle, an AAV. So that's the new en vogue version of the UFO. Because UFO sounds crazy, so now. AAVs. It's not politically correct anymore to say UFO. I mean, you can, but it's dated.

It's dated. AAV. All Double A-V. All right. Double A-V. We have an unfortunate Benghazi update. Benghazi. Oh. Morgan Freeman.

Black God. Unfortunately, 16 people have spoken to CNN about some very disturbing behavior on his part. I don't know how surprising this is to, I mean, if anybody had followed the story where he got into a car accident with his step-granddaughter and there were all sorts of weird issues around whether he was having an affair with his step-granddaughter. People were, I don't know, it was very strange. I thought they were like a thing. Yeah, then he kind of was open about that.

But yeah, the behavior is just generally shameless and horrible. Like he would just harass women in front of lots of people and people just kind of let it happen. Right, or just like commenting on women's clothing and trying to lift someone's skirt or like rather than like reporting it, there's like, oh, don't wear anything revealing around him

because he will say something. It was just a known thing that you can't wear. Wait, was his granddaughter murdered? Was she? The thing says, before she was murdered, Morgan Freeman's step-granddaughter told her boyfriend turned killer

that the actor had been secretly sleeping with her. Oh, shit. That sounds awful. I hadn't heard that. I know they were, like, dating and stuff like that. Yeah, she was murdered in 2015. Shit. That's sad.

That's horrible. So... Anyway. So, basically, CNN has been sitting on this? Is that... I think they've just been putting the investigation together and now they just came out with the reporting of it yeah because one of the people who was harassed by freeman was a cnn reporter who was harassed during a press junket he was just saying shit

about her appearance actually the things that he was saying to her were really disturbing so she was six months pregnant and and he kept saying, you are ripe, and I wish I was there, and gesturing towards her, I guess, baby bump. Boy, do I wish I was there. So that's creepy. You are ripe? What is he, fucking Nick Cage in Face Off?

Right. These stories that come out these dudes are just like dirty old fucking men even if they're young they just sound like dirty

gross fucking dudes who don't give a shit yeah honestly they don't give a shit I mean but it's just like I don't know what more

can be said about this thing like aside from our culture of you know coercion and rape culture. That hasn't been said. It's just more like, okay, well, now we're just going to call people out now for knowing what they've done. So we'll see if someone else is going to do a voiceover for the next Penguins movie. I know, man.

All those Visa commercials. They need to frame. They're going to have to take that Missy Elliott Mountain Dew commercial off the air I know, Mountain Dew That's who I'm really concerned about Wait, what was that? Mountain Dew brand Oh, is that the one with Busta Rhymes too?

Yeah Like where they were trying to get a speed rap and shit Right, he's in the ad with Missy Elliott Don't fuck up Missy Elliott's money Right, exactly, Morgan Let her rock Yeah, the behavior just kind of speaks to He just thought he could get away with it at one point during a press junket. Alan Arkin was like, dude, stop. Oh, shit.

And Morgan Freeman was completely taken aback, didn't know how to respond to that. know how to respond to that so yeah it's just it's also a testament in addition to sort of culture of toxic masculinity it's a testament to just how much we let famous people get away with get away with shit yeah dude i mean honestly let's just keep popping all these fucking dudes yeah like see some say some and yeah see some say some like let's get this culture out of just everything entertainment i mean we're all entertainers in here so that's the world we live in but it's everywhere yeah like let's get this shit out let's see something say something you're right because yeah and also it's up to men too to call each other out like when if my friends are saying some weird shit you got to be like yo hey yo right yeah that's that's a slippery slope my guy you also got to check the way we even

describe things too because that all feeds into this sort of mentality yeah man unfortunately we live we we as men have lived in a time where we have let each other get away with shit yeah uh and we're all guilty of it i know like oh yeah we've all probably said some shit it was like or see some shit and just be like it didn. Seen some shit and didn't say anything. But yeah, man, that culture has to change. It's changing, thankfully, but it has to change and change for good. Yeah. And Time's Up is actually helping Walmart employees with a sexual harassment lawsuit.

So that is a sign that it's kind of moving beyond just the entertainment industry. Oh, like for employees at Walmart? Right. Employees at Walmart. I thought they were like a class action thing. I thought they were coming to Walmart's defense. No. Everybody leave Walmart alone. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate.

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You know what? The other thing about Morgan Freeman in that Mountain Dew commercial, he's not pulling it off at all. No. His fake rapping, it's like, oh, you've never even listened to rap. He's like 80 or something. Yeah, he is 80.

All right. So the summit between the United States and North Korea has been canceled. Trump canceled it. Of course he did. Using the you can't dump me, I dump you logic that I'm sure he sticks to in all facets of his life. You know, this is bad, obviously.

I've been over it for about a week now since I heard that this was kind of in the office. Starting to go into rocky, getting rocky. Yeah, I just didn't really have any, no part of me believed that they were going to pull this off. Yeah, I was going to say, did anybody think this was actually going to happen? Well, I think there was belief that it could, but maybe not the June 12th in Singapore. It all happens that day. I think that version of events, which Donald Trump really wanted most people to believe was going to happen.

It's like, oh, yeah, just wait. June 12th is going down. Full denuclearization. And get your coins now. Right. Because, yeah, this is sort of, there are a lot of experts, like when I watch the news, who are, you know, people who have directly negotiated with North Korea before. And they were saying, yeah, the problem is Donald Trump doesn't listen to his experts

or people who are actually have like diplomatic experience with them saying, you cannot expect them to be consistent with what they're saying. So be prepared for that. And clearly he like was shook by that and caught off guard when suddenly North Korea was like, fuck that. You know, and I think that kind of got him all, you know, got him a bit shook. And then that's why he had he met up with South Korean President Moon and then blindsided him with this fucking letter today. So I assumed that his meeting with South Korean leader Moon was not successful or that he had communicated to him that things were not looking good for this meeting because they had just talked yesterday. But no, South Korea was completely blindsided by him calling it off, which is shocking because they had talked yesterday. And none of this is a new

development so the thing he's calling out for calling the meeting off is that they insulted pence so pence specifically said that if north korea didn't give up their nuclear weapons it would end like the libya model which again, this is the second time. Don't say Libya. Yeah. Libya, bad word when it comes to North Korea. They kept pushing and pushing and pushing. So then North Korea's vice minister of foreign affairs said Pence's comments were stupid and ignorant and called him a political dummy. I don't know if it's the way they're words translate or what, but it's just sometimes it's very childish and straightforward, and I kind of love it.

I can't wait for the documentaries that are going to come out of this White House. Right. It is going to be like all this shit, like all of them, Pence, Trump. They are quite possibly, and I've only lived on this planet for 32 years they are quite possibly the dumbest group of motherfuckers ever like yes it was just total fish out of water you know what i mean yeah this guy donald trump is not equipped with the mental capacity or the skill of being a diplomat or do anything diplomatically do anything in a balanced way he's not really led anything aside from his own family company

and made like bunk deals. So yeah, you put him in the White House, he's wholly unprepared. And this is the kind of shit that happens. And also when you reject the expert opinions of people whose job it is to inform you and you don't actually do your full briefings on shit, you get this kind of nonsense. So, Trump officially cancelled the meeting in a letter that he wrote to Kim that included the sentence, you talk about your nuclear capabilities, but ours are so massive

and powerful that I pray to God they will never have to be used. Did he say that for real? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, this is WWE shit now. Good lord, dude. Well, he is in the WWE Hall of Fame. Yeah, so that for real yeah yeah no this is this is wwe shit now yeah you know what i mean it's well he isn't a wwe hall of fame yeah so he's he's learned a thing or two he's learned a thing from vinny mac yeah but the letter is so crazy it's like a like a scorned lover you know it's like right we just

everything started off so good and i thought we were gonna be peaceful then you had to talk all this shit now it's over but also if you want to talk the door shit. Now it's over. But also, if you want to talk, the door is open. So like that letter does end with an opening to still kind of negotiate. But clearly, I think because North Korea was talking pretty spicy over the weekend, that, you know, led to sort of this new thing of, I think Trump just doesn't want them to have the last word ever. So if it ends with them making like, oh, they don't want it with us, or like John Bolton is repugnant, which he is,

he just couldn't resist the urge to then be like, no, you know what? We're going to show them how we negotiate. Little man syndrome. Do we think that there's any part of this that was Trump realizing, like he starts studying for the test and realize like how unprepared he is. And so he gets Pence to go out there and say some shit unprepared he is and so he gets pence to go out there and say some shit that he knows is gonna piss them off so that they can like call the create the false pretense yeah because yeah i wouldn't be surprised that shit was like straight

up there is one thing you don't mention and pence went out and mentioned it yeah i also think like as dumb as they are, they also have an unbelievable cockiness to them. Like with Pence. For instance, when he went to that football game. When you know they're going to kneel. So it was a staged thing. I think they think, also, just kind of like, well,

I can do whatever I want. We're America. Beat the chest. So if I want to mention Libya, I'll mention Libya. So it's probably a little bit of both. Look, the one thing is that clearly Mike Pompeo did get somewhere with them. Right. And he has not been called out by name like John Bolton has and Mike Pence has. So it's not totally hopeless because again,

like even most of these analysts who are familiar with North Korea are like, this is pretty normal. And to think that it was going to happen just this smoothly was, is completely naive. So while some people are like, holy shit, it's okay. Well, there goes that opportunity. Most people, at least who seem to be experts or actually are experts in this are kind of like, you know, the fact is that it ramped up from we're going to meet and they're going to fully denuclearize on June 12th was like, no, hold on, hold on. We're not even defining what's reasonable negotiations here. So I think it'll take a little bit of time. And then again, you know, we'll see what China does, if they're going to put some pressure on them, or if this becomes a bargaining tool for China in our trade talks with them. Right.

And he has suggested that he thinks that North Korea started being mean to him because China got to them, which, again, he just treats this whole thing like it's a middle school spat. I mean, yeah. Yeah. He's not an adult. Right. And that's evident. Yeah. Yeah.

He's not an adult. Right. And that's evident. Sometimes I wonder, like, when Barack Obama was in office. Who? And Obama. Oh, Obama, yes. Obama.

That Kenyan Muslim. I forgot about him. When he was in office and the right or the extreme conservative base would say things about him like, I can't believe he's doing this and all that. We would look at it as, you guys are insane. I wonder, is that the opposite effect? When Trump does these things and the right was like, this all makes sense to me. Well, yeah, that's their bias, though. I don't think anyone, just based on what your point of view is,

those biases will affect immediately how you respond to something because you're like, oh, that's my team? Okay, cool. Yeah. And I think you have to look at the way that history will obviously view things one way. History is going to view Obama as a great president. Yeah. And history is not going to view trump kindly and well it depends on look at how the rest of the well we'll see where the how the department of education shakes up and what

textbooks right and he's kidding sounds like donald trump was actually the great unifier of the molten scorched earth of america right yeah that's true the fact that he couldn't even tell south korea that he was gonna call this off is just such a great example of how he can't be tough or like in touch with his actual feelings when he's around other people that he has to like wait until they're gone

to like finally like let it out like he never fires people to their face he has other people do it on the phone unless it's on the apprentice yeah unless there's cameras and ratings and right but you know what i love though is they made that coin like world peace was imminent you know what i mean spiking the football on the 50 yard line again check out this coin my favorite thing is now when you go to the website uh where the coin was being sold the first of all like the link was crashed when i tried to click on it but on

wonket they had like a screenshot of the text on it and it basically says the coin will be made whether or not the summit occurs as scheduled because the theme is coming closer to peace and celebrates the act of communication among countries if summit does not occur you can request a refund but most supporters have said they want this heirloom of political history regardless of outcome like it's all defensive like right yeah maybe we fucking took an l on this coin getting it made all early like uh yeah cool yeah thank you for that in terms of how this is going to affect him politically 538 is pointing out that when you actually go issue by issue and ask people how they rate the Trump presidency on each of the issues.

So economy is 48% approve, 46% disapprove. North Korea is the only one that has a significant net approval. North Korea is 52% approve, 38.7% disapprove. I think that is with the assumption that he was going to go in and just completely ace this meeting, solve it with his art of the deal master skills. Great negotiator. But yeah, everything else, terrorism, negative net 1%, taxes, negative net 1%, Syria, negative net 2%, China, negative net six. Trade, negative net 7.7. Iran, negative net nine. Overall job performance, negative 10. Foreign policy, negative 12. Immigration, negative 15.

Russia, negative 20. And his cabinet, negative 25%. So it's like there's not a lot of high points to focus on there. And so fucking up the North Korea thing can't be good for him, but we'll see how his base reacts. You'd hope there is a strategy, right? That's what a lot of journalists are asking. Like, God, is there a fucking strategy here?

Or are we all just knee-jerk all day, knee-jerk diplomacy? Because they're saying if that's the case, man man this is going to be a fucking bumpy ride and who knows i mean sure it could be a thing where they're like yo you come in you'd be like okay we'll agree on this and then you walk out the negotiations to sort of bolster your position but again it doesn't seem like this is the right way to do it uh and and to provoke you know after north korea clearly didn't like the john bolton comments to then double down on Mike Pence. Like, why do that? Like, if you're really if your endgame is that unless, again, they might have a strategy to at this point, I cannot predict anything with any any kind of certainty.

So there's a way to read this in that the president of South Korea got this meeting to happen. He said yes to the meeting the second it was offered, even though that offer has been on the table for every president in the past and was presumably on the table. And the only noteworthy thing is that he was saying yes to it that quickly. And then he got positive press for it. And people were crediting his tough negotiating skills with making this meeting happen. So you know he reads his own press. You know that he's sitting here thinking, well, my tough negotiating tactics worked before when that's not actually necessarily true.

That's just how Fox News chose to interpret it. And what we're seeing is that now that there's a little bit of turbulence, he's going back to this tough negotiating tactic because it got praised before, even though there's nothing that suggests that that was in any way beneficial. Yeah. My guy, don't use the praise of Fox News to figure out if your negotiations with North Korea are going well. I mean, that's all he uses.

Yeah. That's all he uses. It is insane. And as far as his endgame, I think, honestly, his endgame is to be a better president than Barack Obama in any way that he thinks. So for him, he's like, all right, if I do this, then I can get my Nobel Peace Prize and shit like that. And he only ran, I think, in in my opinion because he couldn't stand the fact

that somebody as popular like barack obama was a great fucking president yeah uh now this whole spy gate thing or the spy thing and it's just it's well he's the man who also never wanted to actually be president he didn't want to be president. I mean, from everything that you read on election day, it was all disbelief. Because the way it was looking, the election run was going to be a setup move for him to launch another media empire, basically. Like a spin, like his own fox. And a lot of people were like, oh, maybe that's the next move. And then he won the presidency and everyone was like, oh, shit. Melania wept openly.

Yeah. He looked like somebody had died. And then over the course of two hours, and this is according to Bannon, over the course of two hours, amazingly, he began to convince himself that he could do the job. That was how Bannon described the night that they won the election. that they won the election. So our writer, J.M. McNabb, went through the art of the deal to try and get a read on what the fuck is going on here. Like, how does this tie into his overall negotiating tactics?

And he found this section where he talks about how the only choice is confrontation. And, you know, that even if he alienates people, usually things work out for the best in the end. And, you know, he likes to take this hard ass line that creates conflict with people. And then he's able to use the chaos created by that conflict to make his position better. And Jan was pointing out that a lot of the stuff in this book, when you look back, really is his entire presidential strategy. It's say outrageous things so that you get free media coverage because a ad in the New York Times costs $40,000, but you can get a free ad in the New York Times if they just write an article about the crazy ass shit you said.

So he was saying like, a lot of this looks like a blueprint. And this specific thing about being tough in negotiations and creating conflict also ties into how he's been interacting with North Korea. And J.M. pointed out that another example of him using this was when he bought a USFL team. Oh, right, right. The United States Football League. He bought a team and made it a big deal of the fact that he was going to take it to the NFL. Like he was going to, you know, fuck the NFL up with his USFL team. He paid tons and tons of money to get...

Steve Young? Yeah, I think it was Steve Young, actually. So he paid all this money for the team. He dumped tons of money into it. And then he got all the owners to change the time that they would hold their season from in the summer, which people would watch because that's when the NFL wasn't happening and people wanted to watch football. He was like, no, we need's when the NFL wasn't happening and people wanted to watch football. He was like, no, we need to take the NFL on fucking head to head. And then they will merge.

They will have no choice but to merge with us. Right, because we'll be taking them down. We're offering a better product. And so he managed to get everybody to do this. This was widely covered and seen as a really ballsy move. When was this again? This was in the 80s and this was the first xfl yeah and when he did it people he got a lot of positive coverage at

first people were like this is a you know he's a real maverick making this move like taking it to the nfl real dumb fuck he called he got everybody to start referring to the nfl as the no fun league haha wow um hey branding baby right and so they moved their season to coincide with the nfl season NFL is the no fun league. Ha ha. Wow. Hey, branding, baby. Right. And so they moved their season to coincide with the NFL season, and the entire league went out of business within a couple of years. Yeah. And it's all blamed on him. Because you can't.

He's dumb. Yeah. What's crazy is there are even people like on Fox, they were saying that are kind of even talking about the art of like this in the context of the art of the deal. Like John Roberts on Fox is saying what you're witnessing here at a very, very high level and sort of a precarious diplomatic position is the art of the deal. This is a negotiating tactic. If you've ever bought a car, you say to the salesman, this is my last offer. I'm going to walk out and you could try to sell the car to somebody else.

Except my guy, this is not buying a car. This is this is running the country yeah the stakes are millions of lives too and you're talking about you know this brinksmanship it doesn't fucking help anybody and there's a tried and true way of doing this sort of thing and it involves diplomacy and having really good friends and allies who can trust you and who can rely on your word like South Korea. And the way that they interact with those people is they completely blindside them and call off the talks that those allies had been completely relying on and working towards. So we'll see. We will see. The story hasn't ended.

Maybe somehow Mike Pompeo might pull something out. Yeah. I mean, he seems to have had success up to this point. And I mean, that is how presidents in the past have successfully interacted with North Korea. Not successfully, obviously, but that's how they have conducted diplomacy with North Korea is through their head. Their top diplomat. Right. Their secretary of state. Exactly. Madeline Albright. They get their boys to do it. Right.

The boys and the girls to do it. Exactly. Get your diplomat. Their secretary of state. Right. Exactly. Madeleine Albright. They get their boys to do it. Right. Exactly. The boys and the girls to do it. Exactly. Get your homies. Versus clapping back on Twitter. Yeah. You know? Yeah.

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Good. Good. Let's get them all. Yup. Uh, and now for some not justice, uh, the Sterling Brown tasing video,

uh, was released yesterday. Um, and you know, the Sterling Brown tasing video was released yesterday. And the timing was not great for the NFL. No. The day after the NFL issued its ruling that players can no longer protest police brutality on the field before games, the Milwaukee Police Department released the body cam footage

of six officers like just surrounding tackling and tasing uh milwaukee bucks guard sterling brown uh for having his hands in his pockets while talking to officers it's worth noting he had had his hands in his pockets for minutes and everybody was totally cool with that uh he was calmly talking to the officers and then one of them just chose to freak the fuck out out of nowhere, tackled him, tased him. He was arrested and charged with resisting arrest by the officers who claimed he approached them menacingly while they were writing him a ticket. And the footage just shows that this guy was just a guy trying to start shit with somebody, and that guy just happens to be a cop. Right.

Yeah. So the officers were first alerted to his presence because, as the news reports are pointing out, he was parked across two handicapped parking spots in a Walgreens parking lot. Yeah, he was like, wait here, let me run out here real quick. Yeah. And it's something that could have, as even Sterling Brown,. Yeah, he's like, wait here, let me run out here real quick. Yeah. And it's something that could have, as even Sterling Brown, I think, was talking about, he's like, I was expecting, fine, just write me the ticket.

Right. And let's keep it moving. Right. And then the second that he basically began asking questions of the officer what was going on is when he said, is when he was like stepping it up and then being like, oh, you got in my face. And he's like, bro, I did not get, like the video is really, you know, Sterling Brown is very restrained and i was talking to him yes he is

agitated because he is being just for whatever reason harassed by the police uh but yeah like it the way it escalates is really wild because at one point i think the cops like triggered the alarm yeah and he pulls it pulls out the key fob or whatever to disengage the alarm and puts his hands back in there and they didn't have a problem with that until suddenly they were just like, oh, you want to be a tough guy? Yeah, and they sort of use that as a pretext. Put your hands out of your pocket, tackle him, and then tase him. Yeah.

It's just so, it's part of, you know. It's part of being black in America. The over-policing of people of color. Yeah. And it's not surprising, right because milwaukee is home of of david clark uh mr mr trump's one of his favorite sheriffs and uh when i was on culture kings the other day we were talking about this video at the time we didn't see it we were just like oh it's probably not good if they're already because you know the before they were preparing

like community leaders and things like that for like, OK, so if you can get people under control, this video might get people angry, which of course it would. But then, you know, the Milwaukee PD kind of has a track record of when it comes to over policing. The ACLU actually had a report they put out in February about it. It says even after controlling for nonracial factors, including crime rates, traffic stop rates and pedestrian stop rates in Milwaukee are more than six times higher for black people than for white people. So there's a track record. I think even like 2004, their group of off duty cops who beat the daylights out of two black men and they were hospitalized because they suspected someone stole a badge at a housewarming party, and it was like a crazy, crazy scandal. And as a result, there was another analysis done that there has been a steady decline in 911 calls to the police in black neighborhoods in Milwaukee. Yeah, of course. It's completely – it's just being exacerbated and exacerbated. And I guess this is just another note in the same song, but, you know, a disturbing one.

I just – and we're actually going to talk about this on the next episode of Culture King, so I don't want to get too, too much into all my thoughts on it, but it's, the whole thing is, what scares you?

What scares, like, what, what scares, if that was a white dude with his hand in his pocket, nothing would have happened. Like,

what scares you? Is it just like, we're too dark? So, you know, is it like, alright, then like, go at the motherfuckers with dark ass tans too. Like, what scares you? Is it just like, we're too dark? So, you know, is it like, all right, then like go at the motherfuckers with dark ass tans too. Like, what is it? Like, I don't understand.

Is it because this overall miseducation on the angry black man? But, you know, I mean, the angry white and like just other people that I've dealt more. I've dealt with more angry white people than i've dealt with angry black people right and my entire fucking life and it's i i don't understand what scares these cops it's with weapons on them well it's but it's control you know it's control they want to be able to they want to basically control black bodies yeah say you know what don't fucking talk to me like that like now watch me step it up and call six more like squad cars over here or you have a half

dozen officers around you because you're six foot six and you're asking me questions that are making me be sort of introspective on me possibly discriminating you or harassing you on needlessly the officer specifically says i own that right here yeah right yeah and he was like he's like, you don't own me. He's like, no, I meant this. And it's like, what, the Walgreens parking lot? Right. What is this? It's just this fucking macho bro talk shit. Yeah, and that's what it is. Yo, don't fucking, contempt of

police will get you killed. Don't talk back, but you see numerous videos of, you know, you see this all the time of like white people stripping the heads off of people. Yeah. Or maybe being even mass murderers and being brought into custody without incident or without being killed. I mean, I even go back to a video that came out a week or two ago, Barbecue Becky. and can you imagine if that was a black person following her with that video that entire time and when the cops came and how since it was a white woman it was just all right man please calm

down right that was a black person that black person would have got in trouble yeah uh who knows yeah following i mean yeah shout out to the the officer in that video though too like he looked like he instantly knew how tired this woman's complaint was. Because she was like, well, they were using charcoal. And he rolls his eyes in the beginning. But yeah, you never know. Because again, people have this posture of not being able to... Or police sort of already are in an aggressive posture when dealing with people of color.

Yeah. And that's a problem. You describe him as agitated. And I feel like he almost almost i was surprised by how calm he is throughout the whole thing almost like he's like exhausted by the situation but i mean that's what i mean by his agitation like because he's like oh here we go right and he's like what that's that's what i mean like when they're saying like god damn he's like i own this he's like dude come on and like that's where the agitation comes in he goes well you actually got in my face and

he's like for real no i didn't yeah and even a black dude with money right let's do this in the nba right in the n fucking ba right and this can happen to anybody yeah yeah and that's the scary part he had a game the next day and showed up with you know bruises and I think a black eye and had to the media asked him about it and he just said it was a personal situation but the way was reported I found like a old blog post from some local sports talk person that said according to the source Milwaukee police officers were writing a parking ticket on Brown's Mercedes when Brown confronted them and became combative one of the officers then used his tas ticket on Brown's Mercedes when Brown confronted them and became combative.

One of the officers then used his taser on Brown and arrested him for resisting arrest. In a statement, Milwaukee Police Sergeant Timothy Gawk did not identify Brown, but confirmed the details of the arrest. And then they had to come out and be like, OK, so we fucked up totally. And this is completely our bad. Wasn't even charged with anything. Right. And then I think you can hear one of the cops say, are you the Bucs player? Really?

Now, meanwhile, Trump has responded to the NFL ruling saying, I think that's good, he said to Fox & Friends. I don't think people should be staying in the locker rooms, but still I think it's good. You have to stand proudly for the national anthem or you shouldn't be playing. You shouldn't be there. Maybe you shouldn't be in the country. And Pence tweeted a link to the article about it and said, hashtag winning because he's fucking hip as fuck.

Wow, Charlie Sheen. Yeah. Yeah, just keep, you know, I wish I could kneel on both of their fucking throats. I know. For an entire 60-minute football game. Yeah. Well, look. A few owners have come out and said, look, we're going to pay for it, whatever fines.

Yeah. If you want to kneel and do it, we'll handle it. Right. Which they should. Yes. But, I mean, this speaks to just the larger fuckery in the NFL, too. And then for people to think that this is about anything aside from respect for the flag. Like, come on.

You're looking at this stuff. There are people who are being harassed or treated completely unfairly for crimes that are so minor. And people are making a stand, trying to make a point, trying to bring awareness to this. And you want to just change the conversation. Make it about disrespecting the flag. Disrespecting veterans or whatever. No. We're trying to bring light. To bring people's attention to this kind of shit.

So, I mean, yeah. And wouldn't just staying in the locker room be even more disrespectful? Yeah. To me. If you don't even come out. Not disrespectful. Like, I think it's disrespectful. But in their warped brain, wouldn't that be even worse?

I mean, Trump's like, I don't think they should be in the locker room either. I think any form of protest, they don't want to see people of color protesting the white supremacist structure of law enforcement that we have in this country. So I think even then, imagine if Colin Kaepernick started by not even coming out and a lot of players did that, they'd be like, oh, they got to be out there. Right. Oh, yeah. It's whatever it They'd be like, oh, they got to be out there. Right. Oh, yeah. It's whatever it is. It's the idea that they are protest. They have legitimate gripes with our society.

It's really reminiscent of the police tasing video. It's like whatever they're doing, they don't want you to do that because it's not what they said to do. Right. Exactly. It's just an ego move. It's just power trip. And that guy, man. Yeah.

He was, I think the cop was using like, yo, I tried to make it really easy or whatever. But when you watch how he's even being antagonistic, it's just this fucking power tripping bullshit. I mean, it's just, a quick story. I was working in a grocery store. I was a teenager. And one of the managers went on a work vacation so they left their car in our parking

lot in the grocery stores parking lot uh and it was there for like three days and then we were closing up at night it was like seven o'clock chicago so it was dark it was like a little chillier out and a cop came into our parking lot a female a white female woman, that's redundant, a white woman, cop, came into the parking lot and started writing that car ticket. And I was like the lead on the floor at the time. So I just went out to say, hey, that person actually works

here and he's just on a work vacation. He works here, he has his card. And as soon as I stepped out, now mind you, I'm in khakis, a button down white shirt and a red apron. Right, right. And she puts her hand on her gun

and like turns around and like is ready, is ready for me. This teenage kid who is in a work uniform coming out of the store of the parking lot that you're in

and basically just told me to fuck off. Hand on gun the entire interaction. I was like, all right man, car ain't this important, right? You take it.

And I went the fuck back in. But it's just like, what do you think I'm going to do to you? Right. What do you think I'm going to do to you? Coming out, I'm going to hit you with a can of fucking cream corn? Well, I mean, there's even incidents where- He looked like he had cold cuts. Yeah.

Well, there are even incidents where black officers are shooting black people who are unarmed too. And that just shows you how entrenched this problem is. And, I mean, you know, it's remarkable how law enforcement in other places are able to exercise remarkable restraint when handling these kinds of situations. And for whatever reason, there's just these undertones of bullshit that affect the policing in this country. Yeah. Yeah. Let's talk about something different, Jack.

All right. Let's talk about a little movie by the name of Show Dogs. What? Can we just assume that everybody who's listening saw that this past weekend? I think. I mean, it was the number six film in the country. It did not quite. There was some question as to whether it was going head-to-head with Deadpool 2.

Oh, man. Deadpool 2 slightly edged it out, and Show Dogs came in sixth. But it is a movie in which Will Arnett plays a cop who has partnered with a dog that can talk and that everybody can hear talk, I believe. Like, it's just a world in which talking dogs exist, I think. I guess. Yeah. Yeah. So why is it called show

dogs well they have to go it's this talking Rottweiler voiced by Ludacris of course uh has to go undercover at a dog show uh because like it's like there's some plot for like a baby panda smuggling ring or some shit so it's Miss Congeniality with dogs right uh and the the trailer

is just fucking insane it's worth watching yeah it's just so full of like dumb shit like the classic one they're arguing over the radio where like

Will Arnett's like listen like Viva Las Vegas and then the ludicrous dog is trying to put like Hip Hop Hooray by Naughty by Nature on and he's like what kind of dog

listens to hip hop like it's like this I don't know if there's like weird racial allegory in there too clearly there is. But for a PG rated film, touching on a lot of

really heavy subjects. So, the controversial aspect of this movie that to me, like maybe a few years ago would have seen

like overreacting. But, so there is a big issue in the movie. So, the partner dog is going undercover as a show dog

and one of the ways that show dogs are judged is by having the judge handle their genitals. What? Yeah. Why? Because they want to make sure they're like intact I guess.

I don't know. It's very strange. First of all just very strange show dog world i mean that's crazy uh but i think just to know you know it's like the perfect perfect example of the breed on is the testicles healthy too right i mean you know when i won a spelling bee they did that to me but i didn't understand they did it to the dogs too. Damn. But so the dog is not not feeling this. And there's a big kind of scene where they're teaching the dog to be okay to go to a Zen place and just let a human basically molest them. And parents who went and saw this with their kids. They're like, what the fuck is this Zen place?

This is the worst possible lesson you can be teaching kids. So there is like a big part of child rearing now where you are supposed to message to your kids, like that nobody is allowed to touch them. Like, and that if somebody is touching them, you have to teach them how to say no, because otherwise, you know, like they're sitting ducks for child predators. Or how to use a butterfly knife.

Right. Exactly. And this is like the worst possible thing that you can do is teach a kid to just let it happen and not tell people and not make a big deal of it. And like it specifically says all this shit. happen and not tell people and not make a big deal of it. Right. And like, it specifically says all this shit. And now this scene is being passed around by like a hot potato because of course this movie was written by 13 different people, most of whom are uncredited.

And everyone's like, I didn't write that shit. I don't know. Show dogs. I never wrote a thing in my life. Cause yeah, those, a lot of those people are just saying

this is an overt plot to groom young children for child molestation where, okay, I can see how clearly this scene is problematic and should not be in there. It's a terrible idea. I don't know if you can go as far as to say that this movie was like, yo, when we make

this movie, it's to help groom children. I think it's just a terrible film yeah and terrible writing and the development people fucked up everybody the studio fucked up thinking this is an okay scene uh and and then now i think the scene has been removed oh has it yeah yeah yeah like they've they've announced that they're actually going to take the scene out i think this or like in all the subsequent showings will not have that part in yeah global road entertainment and the filmmakers are saddened and apologize to any parents who feel the scene sends a message other than comedic moment yeah it's a fucking but it's a terror i don't know like yeah when it's a kid's film that you could look at that and then but i guess

this is what happens when you have a i'm sure it's a lot of men who are writing it too like yeah dude yeah then there's a zen place when he are writing it, too, and like, yeah, dude, yeah. Then there's going to be a Zen play as soon as he's getting his balls groped, dude. And then that'll be that. Not even thinking beyond how this could be communicated to a younger audience. There's no way that it was intentional, but just as a point of comparison,

the producers of Sesame Street literally changed the reality of their show and made Big Bird's imaginary friend Snuffleupagus real because they saw a 60 Minutes piece on child abuse and realized that it would be sending the wrong message to have a narrative where Big Bird isn't believed by adults. Oh, because in the beginning, like, adults would be like, we don't see Snuffleupagus. Right.

And then it just, like, sends this message that, like, adults won't believe you if you, like, tell them something. See? be like we don't see snuffle up right and then it just like sends this message that like adults won't believe you if you like wow something see um so now kids can't even have imaginary friends right well yeah but i think in this case they're they were so sensitive though to how kids were taking it in they were like yo we don't even want to get near anything like that right to be misconstrued by kids it's like yeah and i don't even think it was a political thing i just think that they want to make sure that kids know that they can talk to adults and be believed and taken seriously. So, yeah.

This just all goes back to my theory that Sesame Street is the best TV show in the history of television. Sesame Street is the best TV show. I also, I remember watching Sesame Street, and to go back to my original point in the beginning, I wasn't smart enough to even think that, I don't think. Like, oh, they don't believe Snuffleupagus is real? Now when I tell an adult something, they're not. I didn't even register that as a child. But, I mean, you don't have the self-awareness to begin, like, I'm processing this information in this way, you know what I mean?

Like, those are skills you develop as you get older. Like, a lot of that shit just comes in your subconscious, and you internalize it. You don't even realize like when you know i thought black people could only do their hair one way based off tv shows and i'm like high top eight what better like the gumby i'm like dad how come you don't have a gumby he was like because this is not 88 my guy jakeith it is has been a pleasure having you as always Where can people find you, hear you? In the streets Okay

And Jackie's Neal on Twitter That's where you can find me And Culture Kings Now releasing Wednesday and Friday Double doses Double dose for the week Miles where can people find you? Oh, you can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey.

Also, Zeitgang Monday, we are going to be answering some of your questions because it's a holiday. So we don't want to leave you hanging with no episode. So if you have questions for us, the show, everybody, Nick, Anna, Sophie, Jack, the dog, Anderson, whatever, tweet at us with the hashtag AskDZ with your questions. And we will try and get through a good amount of them so you have something to listen to on Monday. It'll be a special evergreen, no guests, just Miles and Jack talking. Hard-hitting journalism. Talking to you guys.

So sweet. Episode. You can find me at Jack underscore O'Brien on Twitter. You can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes,

where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we write out on Miles. What's that going to be today? Okay, so there's this group called Gossip, and they did a cover of Are You that somebody by alia and this is very lo-fi it's like kind of a rock cover but this lead singer's voice is powerful and she's just giving it up to the ghosts uh and yeah this is from their live in liverpool album so it's a live rendition of gossip covering are you that somebody by alia uh such a good song yo yeah general oh yeah alia's music is like not on any of the streaming services no is it it's not on anything right it's not even on title no you can like find her first album

in some places but yeah whoever is in charge of her music is not giving it up to anybody and so a lot of her best songs are just not out there yeah well that sucks it does suck um all right well we're gonna ride out on that we will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast talk to you guys then bye To the, to the, oh, heart of the matter This song is for Aaliyah And Timberlake Baby girl, I'm a man from the BVN Won't you come play around my way And listen to what I got to say

Timberlake, cause you know I am the man My showcase is in Japan Got people to shake my hand Baby girl, put it on as a leader Give it to country, city And the greatest of believers Don't you know? Go tell somebody Oh boy, I've been watching you like a hawk in the sky

That flies like you were my prey Boy, I promise you if we keep bumping heads I know that one of these days We can hook it up while we talk on the phone, but see, I don't know if that's good I've been holding back this secret from you, I probably shouldn't let you know, but If I let you know, but If I let you know You can't tell nobody I'm talking about nobody

Are you responsible? Boy, I gotta watch my body I'm not just anybody Is it my goal? Is it your goal? Sometimes I'm goody goody Right now I'm naughty naughty Say yes or say no, cause I really need somebody Tell me I'll get somebody

Boy, won't you pick me up at the park right now Off the block while everyone's in six feet I'll be waiting there with my trench, my looks, my hat, just so I'm low key If you tell her don't sleep, you'll know that would be with Oh boy, see I'm trusting you with my heart, my soul I probably shouldn't let you know But if I let you know Are you responsible? Boy, I gotta watch my body

I'm not just anybody Is it my goal? Is it your goal? Sometimes I'm goody-goody Right now I'm naughty-naughty Say yes or say no Cause I really need somebody Tell me you're that somebody

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