The Daily Zeitgeist - Most Hated Foods, Trump’s Self-Made Myth 10.4.18

Episode Date: October 4, 2018

In episode 245, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Jamie Loftus to discuss the 'Presidential Alert' text message American's received, Adam McKay's new film about Dick Cheney and the Bush Administration, how Trump's brand is suffering since he entered the White House, the GOP's lack of care for women, the truth about Trump receiving a ton of money from his father, the most hated food in each state, and more! FOOTNOTES: 1. Merrill Markoe, Megan Koester to Debut Podcast ‘The Indignities of Being a Woman’ (EXCLUSIVE)2. Cellphone users nationwide just received a ‘Presidential Alert.’ Here’s what to know.3. Christian Bale Is Fully Committed to This Dick Cheney Part and His Transformation Is Proof4. Speed Read: The 5 Richest Bits in Forbes’ Look at Trump the ‘Net Loser’5. Trump Isn’t the Only Republican Mocking Survivors of Sexual Assault6. SRA Poll shows ND Senate race numbers, reaction to Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh case7. Trump Engaged in Suspect Tax Schemes as He Reaped Riches From His Father8. This Map Shows The Most Hated Food In Every State9. WATCH: Cirandar by Seu Jorge Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Zeitgeist! Go, go, Daily Zeitgeist! Mighty Morphin' Jack O'Brien! Yeah! That's courtesy of Hannah Sildes, and I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by Jack O'Brien. Yeah! That's courtesy of Hannah Seldes, and I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray!

Gray on the bus, gray on the car, gray to make you a superstar, gray to win and gray to lose, but this Miles Gray will rock your shoes, because these are the Grays! All right. The Rakes by Curtis Blow. Anyway, shout out to at Claire Has Mittens, Claw Raw.

I guess that's your Halloween-inspired handle name or whatever, who was like, you might not get this because it's hecka old. Guess what? I'm hella old. So, of course, I know The Breaks by Curtis Blow. Didn't I work with you back in 92? Yes, you did. That was me. OJ trial.

Yes. That was 94. Yeah, I thought we met at the Bodies exhibit in the 80s. The Bodies exhibit in 2000. This joke is literally for only the people in this room. For only the people in this room. Wow. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat

by Lil Xam herself. This is Jamie Loftus. Presidential alert, you've been hacked. Oh, no. You just put those fucking sunglasses on. That You've been hacked. Oh, no. You just put those fucking sunglasses on. That was just for me. The sunglasses honestly hurt my face. They're too small.

What do you mean? But they're so cool. They're too narrow for your wide head? They hurt your eyes because I got these huge eyes and I can see on either side of the tiny glass. It's a whole thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you get the alert from the president today that you were

hacked? No. Anna and I were the only people I think who didn't get it on their phones because we were like, everyone else was like, oh, I got it. I'm like, are we on a list of minorities? Mine was presidential alert, it's boyfriend's day. Show your boyfriend you cared today. That's a calendar event you created.

Yeah, we are recording this on International Boyfriends Day. Oh, sorry. Happy belated Boyfriends Day, everyone. But we were just talking some Boyfriends Day stats. And yes, all the whites in the office got the presidential alert. So I don't know. That's how I confirmed. Interesting.

Before I even took a DNA test, this is how I knew. Racial makeup, buildup, or whatever you call this. Jamie, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. But first, we're going to tell our listeners what we're talking about. We'll continue talking about the presidential alert all day. The whole episode is about that. Now we're going to talk about the new Dick Cheney movie. Trump's businesses are actually doing worse since he became president. We're going to talk about the new Dick Cheney movie. Trump's businesses are actually doing worse since he became president.

We're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about how the GOP is just getting the word out there that they are here for women. They're here for the women of America, except the opposite of that. We're going to talk about how Trump got rich, the truth of that. We're going to talk about how Trump got rich, the truth about that, and we're going to talk the hater app showing most hated foods by state, all of that and more.

But first, Jamie, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? This is a tough one. Okay, this one's a sentence search. Is the Titanic exhibit in Las Vegas same as the one in Orlando, Florida? Is something I searched over the weekend.

It was an emergency. Right, and? Yeah, it is. Wow. And I was bummed. I was so ready to drop 40 bucks to look at a bunch of old deck chairs and touch ice, because that's all it is. Wait, what is it?

The Titanic exhibit, it's permanent in some areas, but it travels across the country, too. And it's a bunch of Titanic stuff that was pulled from the wreckage. And you're given a ticket at the beginning, and it says the name of a passenger. And it's very fucked up, because at the end, you find out whether you lived or died. Oh, wow. And it becomes a fun family activity. One year, me and my dad went, and he was like, I'm the captain. I'm dead. And I was like, hey, activity. Like when me and my dad went and he was like, I'm the captain. I'm dead.

And I was like, hey, I'm a first class guy. I'm probably fine. And we high fived. I'm Jack Dawson. Yeah. Wait, they really have you touch ice as if you don't know what ice is? It's very, okay, first of all, ISIS. Second of all, ISIS.

We've still got that's how good that's how good Superhero Next up is he has that he's just had his finger hovering over that for the past nine months ready to get Anna's ISIS drop Anna's ISIS drop but there's yeah they have like when you're getting towards the end because it's supposed to be like

yeah Titanic was cool and it was great and then towards the end they're like oh well be like, yeah, Titanic was cool and it was great. And then towards the end, they're like, oh, well, you know, we all know what happened. And they make you hold your hands on a gigantic block of ice for 20 seconds. And then the guy

who's giving you the tour is like, yeah, pretty cold, huh? Anyway. You've just been Titanic'd. Anyways, they all die. Oh, yeah, imagine that all over your naked fucking body. What if you did that

for like the triangle factory fire? You're like, we're just going What if you did that for the Triangle Factory fire? You're like, we're just going to let you on fire for 20 seconds. The Triangle Shirtwaist Fire? Oh my god. Anyways, they died. Wasn't that like the beginning of the progressive movement in the United States, I feel like? It was like some labor stuff. Labor, yeah. But it began that push.

Whatever. This ain't AP European history. US history. Whoa. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. So you tour with the Titanic exhibit like a deadhead or something. Like fish. Yeah. I've been going, honestly, because we have the worst timeshare ever in Orlando.

You pay $2 a month, and you go to Orlando once every three years in the middle of the winter. And we couldn't afford to go to Disney World, so we'd go to the Titanic exhibit. Nice. Yeah, but at least you win on that one. Yeah, I win a lot. Have you ever been to the Christian theme park where you get to see Jesus crucified? I want to go.

My mom and I are going for Thanksgiving. I think we're going to go kiss the ring. Did Jesus wear rings? Yes, all the teller rings. A lot of rings. Like four-finger rings. Yeah, four-finger rings. I think he has navel pierced.

Right. He's a cool guy. Yeah. He's a pretty cool dude. Oh, super cool. What is something you think is overrated? Something overrated? Okay, so I am back on my Mensa shit.

Oh, yeah. Mensa. It got really bad this week. So you're in Mensa. Yeah. For people who don't fucking know. Jamie got into Mensa as a bit and because she's super

smart. Thank you Jack. But I did it for a job. Didn't expect to get in. Got in. And so it's interesting because you get put in all these fucked up Facebook groups and there was one I was warned about in particular where I was tagged. People were posting the pieces I had written because they just

found them. And they were posting about it in the group. And there was some like huge, I woke up to like 90 Facebook notifications. And there were some people saying like, Mensa, kick this woman out. She's a, you know, like some pretty, a lot of people would say they didn't like my eyebrows. And then there was-

What? Weren't they calling you Frida Kahlo? They were like, Frida Kahlo over here thinking she got into Mensa. She cheated. Get out of here. Also, you're not going to be shocked to hear the Mensa split is 70-30 men, women. But that's not to say that men are smarter. I thought you were going to say 70-30 incel to volcel.

But it's just because more men need to feel smart. It's a self-selecting group of geniuses. It's a group of psychotic incels. We also got some off-the-chart responses, too, did you not? Can I read? Yes. As a lady with a mouth, I've received death threats before, but this one from a man named Gina Polka Mouse is my favorite.

I'd like to read it. Not an alias. Not an alias. No, I checked the records. GenoPolkaMouse. 400 years old. GenoPolkaMouse said, Hello, Jamie Loftus.

You've met the mild-mannered organ repairman of Mensa. Now you have met our criminal element. Organ repairman. What does that? I don't know. Very specific. There are people here who can really hurt you. In your world, that means posting Twitter rants where you're a racist or fake reviews.

It means something different here. This is serious. We have men here who have killed. We have those who have served time. One who did the unmentionable and fugitive felons. I'd love to know what the unmentionable and fugitive felons i'd love to know what the unmentionable he says there was a woman here who pissed a lot of us off a few years ago and now she's dead wow which could be old age the way he's like it's a fact was 97, and we got in a fight several years later. She died.

Yeah, you're welcome here. All dues paid members are. But that's all. Nobody is looking out for your safety, Jamie. Wow. I don't understand. It's a warning, but a threat, but also like, nah. But are we?

He's looking out for you. I don't know. He's almost like, yeah, watch out. There are some really mean people here. But also, I'm going to threaten your life also. Gino. I don't know. He's almost like, yeah, watch out. There are some really mean people here, but also I'm going to threaten your life also. Gino, I don't know. His profile picture is of an old-ass statue.

I'm like, this guy could be anyone. Right. Gino, I don't know. Personally, I heard that Gino knew a woman once who he disagreed with, and she later passed away. His mother. Hard to know. It was his mom. You should be like, well, if you're so smart, Menta, once who he disagreed with and she later passed away. His mother. You should be like, well, if you're so smart, Mensa, how did you not know that I was going undercover to join

your group? Implying that they're all psychic? The culture of Mensa is very overrated. What is something you think is underrated? Follow up to the overrated. In the list of threats I was referred several times to, hey, she sucks. I bet she wouldn't even participate in our boob thread. And I was like, there's a Mensa boob thread. I got to get the link. Wow. And I thought

it was going to be a bunch of guys posting boobs they'd found for the benefit of other guys. However, I did get the link to the Mensa boob Thread, and I would say it's underrated because it's voluntarily submitted the boobs of women from Mensa. Oh, really? What? Yeah. It's like cleavage shots of women in the Mensa group

being like, good morning, and it's Mensa boobs. Is it fucking Mensa Gras? It's fucking weird. It's very bizarre, but they subverted my expectation. Wow. The Mensa Boob Thread. Yeah, when I read that too, I was like, I wonder they subverted my expectation. Wow. Look at that. Yeah, when I read that too, I was like, I wonder what the fuck that is. Yeah.

Respecting women's agency. But their self are like women holding paper to be like, I'm actually a Mensa member. These aren't just rando boob pics. Well, you have to submit your membership numbers to even get in these fucked up groups. What a fucking mind fuck this whole thing is. I've got to write about it at some point, but I'm just like, they're going to kill me before I can. in these fucked up groups. What a fucking mind fuck this whole thing is. It's one of the, I've got to write about it at some point, but I'm just like,

they're going to kill me before I can. I don't know. Well, the Zeitgang has heard it. We will not let you die in vain. We're on to you, Mensa. Please, just like, don't prevent me from being killed,

but do avenge me. Yeah, we will avenge you. We'll avenge you. So the underrated is the Mensa boob thread. Also, an audio book I just finished this morning, The Indignities of Being a Woman by Megan Keister and Meryl Marko.

Really good book for this moment especially. Just breaks down how women have been oppressed through history, but in a really funny way. It's bizarre that it's so funny, but it's great. Okay, we'll put that in the footnotes. Yep. So you can peep it. Now cut all that out.

Just use the boob one, Nick. Boob thread. Please, length amends a boob thread. And finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true that you know to be false? Oh, I'm going to go old school with this one and double down on defending Los Angeles

public transit. I still don't have a driver's license. And I was riding the bus. I had a great conversation on the bus yesterday about how the bus is actually fine, which now that I'm saying it out loud sounds really offensive. Take the bus. I met this lady on the bus yesterday. She's like, yo, people say the bus is bad. It's not bad. I was like, yeah, you're right. The bus isn't bad. And then we just said that

back and forth for a really long bus ride. Lots of us normals here on the bus talking about how normal the bus is. Do you have any ice for my organ I'm transporting? Yeah, I mean, I think it'd be overwhelming, especially if you're used to really good public transit. It might be a little bit of a jarring transition.

It's just empty and inconvenient. But it costs $1.75. Yesterday I had a terrarium. So I was the bad person on the bus yesterday. I had a terrarium. You brought a terrarium on board? I had a terrarium on the bus. With what, snakes and shit?

Yeah. Yeah. So a typical bus ride. You're like, yo, here comes this woman with the fucking snakes. I was on my way back with a terrarium and talking with this lady. And she was like, you know, the bus is at bed. I was like, holding my terrarium. And what kind of menagerie did she have with her?

Oh, she had hands full of snakes. She's like, oh, someone planned ahead with their terrarium. We're looking like Pee Wee Herman in that one scene when he's saving the pet shop. Yeah, she was. She's like, oh, so stupid. I forgot my terrarium. For all these damn snakes. Also, you got any paper towels?

What? My snakes are peeing on my hands. You mind if I put them in your terrarium? This isn't sweat. It's pee. The snakes. I was about to ask, and then I- A boot?

Sorry. A boot. Are you from Manitoba? I was about to ask about snakes and if they pee. I'm still in the market for a snake, but so far I've just gotten a terrarium. All right. Yeah. They have a single opening called the vent, or cloaca, actually.

And they do fecal matter and uric acid excreted together. Wow. Whoa. Yeah, excreting uric acid is more efficient than urinating because less water is wasted. Oh, true. Wow, smart little snakeys. Smart little snakes. That's how they'd be partying in the desert for so long.

I love a snake. Vent sounds, I don't know. Can we start calling buttholes vents? A vent, yeah. Just got to do some venting. Hey, let me see that vent. You eat vent? Yeah.

You eat vent. Some ventolingus later. Oh, yeah, because it's a double. Shout out to all my HVAC installation people who do high volume air conditioning. If you don't go down on vent, what's wrong with you, man? Is that what HVAC stands for? High volume air conditioning? No, it's heating ventilation and air conditioning.

Heating snake vagina. Heating vagina vent. Anyway. So yesterday the president did a real power move. He was feeling, I don't know, like he wanted to just flex a little bit. He was feeling himself. So he did the presidential alert

where we all got a text message at the same time that was like, just so you know, I can do this anytime I want. I can get in your face. What was it even about? My memory's already been wiped by all the jokes that have since been written about it. It was just a test. Like when on TV they used to have that, like, this is a test.

Yeah, right, right. And they would play the high-pitched noise. This seems much more efficient. But also, I feel like our powerful people now are more powerful than they've ever been presidents used to take like six days for people to find out we were at war and now they can just like reach you with in a split second if they want to just at the president and like your jeff bezos's and mark zuckerbein of the world control like the fates of all of us. Sorry, was that a plural of Zuckerberg?

Is that not correct? No, I just like the idea. No, I'm pretty sure it is. No, that's, yeah, Mensa. Mensa, yeah. It's Zuckerberg. That's the multiple ending of a Berg last name. Anytime I get something questionable, I'm going to just point to you and say Mensa.

And say Mensa. Mensa. Mensa. It is Mensa. Frida? I guess it's in case of a weather event so that they can pick out people who are in that region and tell them to get out or something.

Sure, sure. But look at how this motherfucker uses Twitter. Right. And they're like, could you imagine if he's like, yeah, he's like, and with this, everybody will see this? Right. Like right away even if they don't have Twitter? Yeah.

I can't think of a person I would trust less with that sort of power. Do we know what kind of control? Like, it can't be like a Twitter. Like, he'd have to get approval from other people before that would be sent, right? You would think so. Right. But he is also the president. Oh, this is not.

Oh, did you just find out? Wait a second. Yeah, the president is donald trump we recorded this in 2015 fucking nightmare 2016 october of 2016 man i can't wait for hillary to be president but um yeah yeah it's it's just weird because when you think about the botched missile alert that happened in hawaii yeah I'm like yo there's no way there's I just feel like something could go wrong with this right that was my first instinct I was like okay so he can just use like wireless emergency alerts suddenly and now well not to get tinfoil

hat right away but if you're sent something that is untrue over an alert like that, that like, what do you? Right. Yeah. Ugh. Yeah. It's just like, I really, I need to do more research on it. I sincerely hope that he doesn't just have that, you know, at his immediate disposal and that someone would need

to sign off on a message like that. Well, it's funny because, you know, you can opt out of like weather or amber alerts on your phone. You cannot opt out of these. You can't. They will, yeah, they show the fuck up. And it's, yeah, as they say, If you can opt out of weather or amber alerts on your phone, you cannot opt out of these. Oh, really?

Yeah, they show the fuck up. And as they say, it's meant to alert the public instantly of grave public emergencies such as terrorist attack or an invasion. Right. What, do you see that on the horizon there, Trumpito? Yeah. If Canada invades, we got to know. Hey, I for one bow to our northern overlords. Listen, Seth Rogen just landed back in Los Angeles after a weekend in Toronto. of dumb baits we gotta know hey i for one bow to our northern overlords listen seth rogan just

landed back in los angeles after a weekend in toronto we gotta let everybody know this is that's fucking wild it's also weird that they named it after the president just because i think that would have made sense maybe at any point in history except now like the brand of president has been damaged oh yeah that i mean that makes me think even more that it's like he's pushing it because it's like you couldn't find a person you would take a message less seriously from presidential it would be one of the even if it said there's fucking missiles coming for you i'd be like fuck out of here right yeah like and then watch i looked down like yo what is that flash in the sky? Fucking boy who cry wolf

push notifications. It's just like, psycho. Yeah, even if it said like a message from the US government, I would take it more seriously than like from him specifically.

If it said it was federal alert or something like that, I'd be good with that. Here, those are some notes for how Donald Trump can get his message out

more effectively. Yeah, if it said Papa Smurf is trying to tell you like, mm tell you, I'm not lying, Gargamel is trying to get us. Gargamel invades America. So a trailer dropped today for Vice, which is a new movie about Dick Cheney starring makeup. Oh, it's not a documentary about weed hosted by a white guy in a shirt? Being like, yo, vices. Weed's crazy, man. Right?

Yeah. No, it's Christian Bale as Dick Cheney, which he is in enough makeup that he looks nothing like Christian Bale, but he doesn't really look that much like Dick Cheney to me. I think he kind of looks like Dick Cheney. I mean, in the sense that he's a bald, old, chubby, white guy. There were moments that I think as a still image, I could see it.

I think as you would talk, sometimes you can kind of tell. The thing that stood out to me was that he doesn't have that soft body that you get from being an evildoer over time. Right. It looked like a big dude just gaining weight to look like a middle-aged guy. His build was a little unbelievable to me. He doesn't look like he has, like you were saying, evil man gout. Yeah, right, right, right.

Like his bones are all soft. Where your greed just pools in your midsection. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're sort of decomposing very quickly. Sam Rockwell is playing George W. Bush, and that is heavily featured in the trailer. I think that's going to be pretty funny. It is by Adam McKay, who made Anchorman,

and also The Big Short. Nah, nah, just leave it there. But mainly Anchorman, and Anchorman 2, I guess I should emphasize. Did he do Anchorman 2 also? Oh, yeah. Oh, no. Oh, you know it, man. That wasn't too good.

So do you guys, are you interested in this movie? Are you excited? I don't know. You give a shit. I'm fascinated by that administration just in general. Yeah. And knowing, you know, even then when I was in high school or college and he was president, we all knew, like, everyone was like, yo, Dick Cheney's the real president.

So it's interesting now to see them do a movie that's just from the onset being like, hey, look, I'm going to be the fucking president. He's like, yeah, alright. Strategery. I'll watch. I think more so because Sam Rockwell really kind of

looked like George Bush for a second, more than Christian Bale looked like Dick Cheney. I'm more excited for Sam Rockwell's performance. I don't know. I'm in full Great Depression mode where I'm like, man, I just want to go to the movies and have a fun time. Right, right, right. Don't remind me of this other shit.

I've just been listening to Big Rock Candy Mountain for the past two weeks. Me, Anna, and Sophie, and Caitlin are all doing a girl's trip to see A Star is Born. Oh! Oh! So, you know, the world just wants to feel good right now. But I do feel like, because there has been a movie called W that was...

Who was in that? Josh Brolin. Josh Brolin played George W. Bush. And I think now that you mentioned that this makes more sense as like the guy who should be the star of a movie about a political conspiracy

being Dick Cheney. I think that was the problem with W is that like nobody could imagine him doing anything. Yeah, and it wasn't realistic in that sense. Yeah, it was like, oh, what's the plot going to be?

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money boys over at forbes are saying that president trump's businesses are worth less than the day before he took the oath of office. And I think also before he even came down the escalator. And there are a bunch of reasons for it. But one of the main ones is that he has real estate holdings in places where his brand is like absurdly toxic right like he is a lot of his money is in new york real estate and nobody is hated more than him and no brand is like more despised in new york city than uh the trump brand and like constantly defaced too right yeah well that's the other thing too is because of that like the toxicity of the brand like if you go to a like his properties it's like you got to go through metal detectors and there's

bomb sniffing dogs you're like i just want to golf like i don't need to go through like nine dimensions of national security or whatever there's other places and especially like if you have even remotely a political conscience even if you're like oh this is technically a trump trump on place i just want a nice dinner like no you're on fucking even if you're like, oh, this is technically a Trump-owned place, I just want a nice dinner. Like, no, you're on fucking blast if you go in there. It's a liability, you know, and rightfully so. Yeah, like from his real estate took a huge hit.

But his actual worth, his net worth dropped by over a billion dollars. What about his self-worth? I feel like about the same amount. Self-worth, I think it's all an illusion. He has none. You know what I mean? He's a shell of a man.

Down a billion. He's a husk. Exactly. He's a husk. Exactly. But I think, yeah, when you look at it, a lot of them were like the analysis they were doing is like, if he divested, he actually could have been making money with the money he pulled out from his companies.

But because he was like, no, it's fine. I won't look at it. My kids will run it into the ground. Because his kids also are taking an L2. Eric and Don Jr. started like a hotel brand or whatever. They got involved in a hotel brand called Scion, which is like- Isn't that a car? Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, okay. And not like a successful- An off-brand Toyota. Or I know it's made by Toyota or whatever. But anyway, they had their whole idea where it's like, well, look, Trump hotels are too much money for like what they saw were like the MAGA crowd in certain areas where like the president was popular. Right.

So like in 2016, they were like, okay, so we'll do like a lower priced. Blue collar hotel. Trump adjacent thing called Scion. And they like, they signed a deal to do like four hotels in Mississippi. And then they also report here that those agreements they signed, they generated only $27,000 in 2017. They made $27,000. Wow.

Like most 7-Elevens make more than that, I'd imagine. In a day. In a day or like a couple weeks. Let me run. I'll ask. I'll ask. You'll ask Mensa? Yeah.

I'll ask Mensa and I'll ask my local 7-Eleven because they know me there. Do you know them well enough that you could be like, hey, what are you pulling in every day? What's your daily haul in here? I feel like if I, there's one manager I think would tell me. The others would be rightfully dodgy because why would you tell me yeah but there's one who's got loose lips right especially to the woman screaming about where's the where'd all the fucking sushi go where's all yeah why'd you discontinue sushi can we stop having dead pool on the mike's hard lemonades i got a lot of notes for my 7-eleven also what do you guys bring in every day? How much money do you guys make here? Yeah.

Thanks. What's your haul? Thanks, miss. I feel like they're always like two seconds away from giving me a literal job application. I was like, that's my bad day.

Oh, like they're misreading you? Like, hey, I get what's going on. You're a big fan. I see you're getting to know everybody. Here's a little job app. They think I'm networking. Yeah. They're like,

we'd love to have you on the team. Dude, they're great. I love those teenagers. They're nice. Can you work 2 a. Yeah. They're like, we'd love to have you on the team. Dude, they're great. I love those teenagers. They're nice. Can you work 2 a.m. to 7 a.m.? Are you 15? Your 7-Eleven is teenagers? Oh, it was over the summer.

Now that time's kind of passed. Oh, really? Yeah. I think it's like there's definitely like in my local one, there's like a band of teens that work there over the summer because I've lived there two summers now. And I was like, whoa, where are you guys at? They're like school. It's like, oh, that makes sense.

And I high five them. And skateboarded away. Rad kids. Turn your hat backwards. Yeah. Awesome. Cool. See you later. So the GOP, guys, the Republican Party is really just doing the most to come out here in support of women and sexual assault victims.

Oh, yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I think a lot of this will be news for me because I had to disengage the past two days. It's just gotten so bad. It's only gotten worse and more bizarre as the days have gone on. So on Tuesday, you know, Trump went down

I believe to Mississippi? Yes, Mississippi. For a rally. To visit the Scion Hotel. Yeah, to visit the Scion. Make sure they're pulling in a little more than two bucks a night. The Corolla Motels to see what's going on. Exactly. And yeah, you know, he got on stage and did his little

free-form jazz and then part of part of his uh set as we call it was just him basically just mocking christine blasey ford and saying like you know saying like oh she can't remember when it happened where it happened who was there what time of day how she got it like it was just kind of went on this free form even did a spot on christine blasey ford impression where he was like i don't remember but i remember i had one beer that's all one beer one beer which is just it's absurd and then so the crowd started laughing and getting in on and then eventually they were chanting lock her up for whatever reason yeah i love how it's just the the rhetoric is such that it's like any woman we don't agree with is going to prison. Is lock her up.

She literally has to go to jail because. I mean, there should be a sign of respect, you know, if they haven't shouted lock her up at you. Yeah. The Mensa thread might be saying that to you, you know. Honestly, it's like, yeah, maybe if you're a woman not receiving threats, maybe you're not doing enough for the fucking God. If you're a woman not receiving threats, maybe you're not doing enough for the fucking God. But, I mean, yeah. I think this really wasn't a surprise because last week it seemed like everyone was like,

wow, he's not attacking a victim? Right. Like, what's going on? I mean, it was surprising. Yeah. I think people were like maybe thinking that was a real sign of his senility. They're like, wait, he's not doing the attacking of... Anyway. Did he die having sex and get replaced by a lookalike?

No, that's Dave. Oh, my bad. But yeah, it seems like after this bizarre – not bizarre, pretty predictable rally. She's pretty, yeah. Everyone else has been kind of following along with it. Mitch McConnell is just kind of going on being like, these people won't stop us from doing our duty. And when he says these people, he's acting like there's like, you know, insurgent like insurgent fighters out in the streets. He's talking about survivors who have been coming up to senators to confront them and say, please reconsider voting for this person.

this person you know like i think along with jeff flake it shook the entire senate to the point where they weren't allowing people into the the halls of the senate building because these guys just don't want to interact with people and mitch mcconnell was like i think at an airport or something 100 just not even acknowledging this person there was uh david purdue who's a senator from georgia he was going through the airport and two women were talking to him and like one woman got in front of him she's like hi nice to like was putting her hand out to shake his hand he'd be like please meet me i'm a sexual assault survivor and i would like to tell you something he went don't touch me yeah like he acted on something like that we the irony right and also like he works for her like they work for fucking constituent like but then coming off like as if this woman was trying to attack him yeah he saw those terrorist attacks in the elevator on jeff

flake oh yeah no you know it's actually a germ thing if a survivor touches you their trauma is catching so so he might have just been taking precautions this is fucking no and then he fucking hid in the men's room to avoid, because they still were like, what? You're not going to shake my hand? He's like, don't touch me, bro. Like, that kind of shit. And then fucked off into the men's room. Honestly, I would follow this motherfucker into the men's room, because that shouldn't even be a thing anyway.

Yeah, but it was a very, but now we're seeing, you know, like, I think the GOP is now kind of realizing, okay, so we can kind of come back on the toxic mask shit and do that. Or because like then Lindsey Graham yesterday was basically saying when they were asking him about Trump's comments about like, like that was disgusting what he said. Like, well, what kind of president goes off and attacks like a citizen based on their testimony of the trauma that they went through? And Lindsey Graham's defense was like, well, everything he said was factually true. Name one fact he said. Right.

No, exactly. And also it wasn't true because he said that she didn't know if it was upstairs or downstairs. She was very specific about where in the house it happened to her. And also let's not forget, she was asking the FBI to interview her. It does seem like up until now, from what we've read, she has not been contacted by the FBI. She has still not been interviewed by the FBI as of this recording. And the FBI's findings, quote unquote, are going to be given to the senators.

And all 100 senators will have secure access to the new information, but not their staffs. They can't speak publicly about what's in the file, and they're also not giving out electronic copies of it. There's no PDF versions or anything. It's just going to be just 100 actual paper documents. So I guess they're assuming that will make it harder for people to leak it. Yeah, or just to have a worthwhile investigation that isn't a joke of itself. Yeah, it's going to be a piece of paper that says, like, LOL.

Right. It's like the paper says, dude, he swore to God he didn't. He said so. So love FBI. If someone doesn't assange that shit, what's the point of the 21st century? And again, even when you think about how the investigation has been done, a lot of people point out that this is not a criminal investigation. It's a background investigation. So it's like the client agency is the White House.

So then the White House says, I just want to know these things, this little tiny thing, this really myopic investigation. It just has to be these four things. Following up on a job interview. Yeah. And then everything else, they're like, well, what about – no, no, no, no, no. We don't care about that. Just give me the words back that will show that we can vote this shit bag into the Supreme Court. The fact that they specifically are not allowed to talk to either Kavanaugh or Dr. Ford?

So what if they have follow-up questions? That doesn't matter. That just seems like— We wouldn't want the truth to come out, Jack. If they find out information that changes something about their testimony or challenges it, they're not allowed to then be like, hey. I think that's what they write in the report. Is that like, well, this is what we found.

Or actually, I don't know. The report might be written so neutrally that it's merely their findings and then from there you have to reconcile that against whatever you've heard. Reconcile that with whatever. I mean, the truth would be too incriminating, right? Right.

Yeah, and criminal investigation would be, well, then you'd have to talk to everybody and not have people like Christine Blasey Ford's lawyers on Twitter announcing to the world, hey, FBI, we're trying to holler at you. We have names. We have witnesses. We have other evidence we can show you. Right.

But hey. Yeah. I don't hold out a lot of hope because, I mean, Democrats seem like even they're shook that they're going to make Republicans mad because they're trying to hold rapists to account. Yeah. Like they're like, oh, but they're going to be so mad at us. Well, you never know. I mean, if there is something in that report that actually does corroborate some of these allegations, I'm sure there will be somebody who is going to say, I don't give a fuck how confidential this is and just punt it out there.

Because a lot of people are auditioning to be president right and hey why not at this point because if there's real evidence there that the people need to see or at least that we need to know how our senators are voting i think that's extremely relevant pass the zanet and in the end right whether or not this information comes out like we said earlier it only matters what jeff flake lisa murkowski and susan collins does at this point i, unless some other senator actually finds their spine and is like, whoa, whoa, whoa, I'm not gonna vote on this. But those are the people who really have to be moved. They're the only votes that are not fixed at this point. And so, you know, based on what's in that report, you'd think that from their perspective, they would see something that is like, okay,

I can definitively say that this actually didn't turn anything up but if there's even anything in there that would show what I think most of us believe to be the truth in this instance we would have to be like hello you saw this and what did you think about that but again I think that's the cover that's provided when the public cannot

see the report because we have no idea how they're making their decision yeah it's just another small production just to say that they did it i'm in an off-broadway production of fuck the legal system yeah well it's yeah if they're blocked off in literally every like what is there to collect if you're not trying i mean and that seems to be the same tone that all these you know gop politicians are are going for is literally to the point where survivors are confronting them directly. And so they just are running away or locking themselves in a room to make the law so that they don't have to listen to them ever again. Just the equivalent of just burying your head in the sand.

It's pathetic. And the three senators whose votes actually matter, Jeff Flake, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, they all had comments that were like, this is disgusting, this is really disturbing, blah, blah, blah. But again, I'm not sure if this

is the same sort of tactic we've seen in the past where it's like, well, just come out and criticize the president's words and you can have the appearance of seeming like you're on the right side, and then when it comes down to the vote, you'll just be a rubber stamp. Yeah, I mean, especially with Jeff Flake, it literally is just a choice of, are you going to side with people, or are you going to save your own ass? And it's not even clear what, at this point, what his actual calculus is in terms of how he's looking at a presidential bid.

I mean, like you could probably if you're trying to frame yourself, if you're really going to run in 2020 and you're coming from the Republican Party, you'd want to probably frame yourself as like the antidote to Trump if you're an actual conservative or it's like I stood up to this guy. But you only say words that give you the appearance of independence without actually voting that way. So it's it's hard to know. And, you know, to further that point, like, you know, when people are asking Jeff Flake about his comments, he was like, well, that's not going to change the way I would vote. That's not going to impact the way I vote. And then in another interview, someone asked, you know, we're finding out there's more and more evidence of Brett Kavanaugh's like drinking lifestyle in high school and college emerging that seems like he's being deceptive at the very least of not outright lying to the senate about his his drinking and then he kind of danced around

I was like well I I'm not gonna really sit here and define what excessive drinking is so I'm not sure so he's already kind of you you see him say like he's operating with all this double speak so it's very hard to nail down where he is. I've seen some comparisons and I guess I'm curious what you guys think is I've seen some comparisons between Jeff Flake and a lot of like how John McCain's rhetoric used to be where he

like you know choose these moments to be like actually I might believe women and everyone's like wow the most progressive guy in the GOP. And then would do all the despicable bullshit on the side and get it. And so that he becomes a candidate who could conceivably be for the people, even though in reality, most likely he's not. Right. Right. That's why. Yeah, that's what Nick and I were talking about earlier was that, like, it seems like if he's not actually worried about doing the right thing, he's definitely done the thing where it appears like he's going to do the right thing.

And maybe people will just – he can point to those moments and then if people want to debunk that, they have to be like, well, you actually didn't vote the right way and blah, blah, blah, blah. And he can just be like, well, I fought for Dr. Ford to have an investigation. Do you remember the time that I said maybe? Right, right. Dr. Ford to have an investigation. Do you remember the time that I said maybe? Right. I really feel like that is an outdated strategy that things are just moving, like, accelerating in opposite directions to the point that nobody, there's not going to be anybody who's going to benefit from being in the middle because it just seems like, like, for instance, the Heidi Heitkamp is a Democratic senator in North Dakota who has not come out and said how she's going to vote on this.

But her opponent has been like, I don't care if he did sexually assault her. Even if it's all true, we should still vote him into office. And he, because of that, has opened up a 10 point lead over heidi heidkamp and yes strategists on both sides think they're seeing like new republican intensity because of the hearings like because they were like well you know they're basically pro kavanaugh energy which seems completely just outside of the realm of possibility and reality in my mind. But that's because – Well, I think some people are really just framing this in terms of like a culture war. It's not like objectively should a person who behaves like this be a judge.

It's like, no, you just don't like him because he's team us. And it's like, well, no, no, no, no, no, no. I mean, sure, on some level. us right and it's like well no no no no no uh i mean sure on some level but also there's plenty on the merits to say this person is wholly unfit to be in the supreme court and that's where people and that's where we can see when the culture war thing happens because people's eyes gloss over and you have women cheering for like someone who's accused of sexual assault and things like this and being like well it doesn't matter it doesn't matter it doesn't matter he's gonna be fine because he's just gonna overturn roe v wade, I think it's because, and another thing is like the,

and it's regressed even in the past couple of days, but like the timing of the conversation on the GOP side has altered slightly since like you're looking back at the Anita Hill hearings in 91, where now they feel like they have to say, we believe survivors, we just think this person specifically is a fucking faker. Right.

And so it's all these like bizarro like virus mutating qualifiers to be like, no, we're like with, you know, we don't hate women. We just think this one is wrong. Right. We found Dr. Ford very compelling, but that because that was was the acceptable word to use among Republicans. But they're like, yeah, I believe her. I believe something happened to her. I mean, it's like they're willing to literally disqualify people who they find to be lesser one by one if necessary. But it almost seems like it's a, as it relates to the midterms, it seems like it's a battle of like, which side can not piss off the other side more?

Because like now everybody was predicting a blue wave, but now that the right has been pissed off about like Kavanaugh potentially not being approved. Pew Research Center poll says that 59% of Republicans describe themselves as, quote, more enthusiastic than usual, which is more than in the red waves of 2010 and 2014. So it's like just both sides are incredibly angry. And I don't know. It's basically who's going to be angrier and angry enough to turn out to vote in the midterms. The only successful bipartisan effort going on in America right now is mayo chup. Right. Hey. You really inserted yourself into that battle, didn't you?

Two sides you never thought would meet in the middle in a way that is at least palatable is mayo chup. Or it's called fry sauce, as someone told me on Twitter. Pink fry sauce. I didn't know. Yeah, they stole the idea, but that's also beautiful and American. They took it. I remember there was a restaurant I used to eat at with my old job,

and I only went because they had an obscene amount of sauces you could dump out to put on your fries. It was like barbecue, ranch, buffalo, spicy something, spicy ketchup, fry sauce. I was like, yeah. It was like barbecue, ranch, buffalo, spicy something, spicy ketchup, fry sauce. I was like, yeah. It was like question mark? Fine. I figured it out.

It could be a fingernail. But I remember eating the fry sauce for the first time and I was like, yo, this tastes like nothing. And I was very upset by it. It was just sort of, yeah, it was just the meeting of ketchup and mayonnaise. Anyway. You know, I can't wait for mayo chop. Okay. Well, good. That makes one of us. I'm a moderate

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Massive fraud. Yeah. No kidding. seems like it cuts the most against because i i think everybody including his supporters are of the impression that like he finds loopholes and right like finds ways he's a smart business guy right but the thing that he has always claimed is that he only got a million only got a million dollars from his dad and then paid it back fully so it was just basically like a bank loan. He's a business genius, you guys. Yeah, daddy gave me $400 million. But what they found is that by age three,

Trump was earning $200,000 a year in today's dollars from his father's empire, which, I mean, what a business genius. By age three, he was earning that much? Yeah, why isn't he hanging his hat on that? He's like, how much you making right now? I was making fucking five times that when I was three. I was a boss baby. He's the original boss baby.

That movie's about me, you didn't know? Alec Baldwin's ripping me off left and right. Closest thing to a biopic of my life, boss baby. He was a millionaire by age eight, and this is all just money being given to him. By the time he was 17,

his father had given him part ownership of a 52-unit apartment building, and then right after he graduated college, he was receiving the equivalent of $1 million a year from his dad. Hot. The money increased with the years to more than $5 million annually in his 40s and 50s.

So he was just- Oh, so he's starting to, you know, it's like you got to ease him into adulthood. Right. Give him a little bit of my girl started. When you start giving him $5 million a year. When he turns 40. Yeah. When he's out in the real world, only getting $5 million a year.

Tough. out in the real world only getting five million dollars a year tough so it's just he's a you know i i think a lot of people who have doubted his credentials kind of suspected that he's just a rich boy who got a lot of money from his dad but right i mean the point that a lot of people and financial reporters and people who actually you know understand huge quantities of money like this, a point they've made is that if he had just taken the money that his dad gave him and put it in some managed fund. Like an S&P, right? Yeah, or just like, yeah, an S&P.

He would be way richer now than he is based on all the shit he did with the money, which was basically invest in businesses that should be very easy to run like casinos and just like bankrupting those businesses. It's funny to talk about too, you know, like he hates that estate tax. And when you find out like essentially that his mother and father, who my goodness are two beautiful human beings. They look

like just evil elderly parents from a Tim Burton movie. Some real seven days to live imagery. Mary's hair is actually the most impressive thing I've ever seen. It's like Marge Simpson if she got her

hair done by a very drunk person. It's solid. Yeah. It's falling off to the side. And you don't know where it starts or begins. Yeah. Who's that guy, Escher? Like an MC Escher drawing?

It's like what her hair is. I'm like, where is the base? Is it twisting on itself? Anyway, when you read about all the money that they inherited and what they actually paid. So, you know, they probably they're saying they inherited around a billion dollars. And, you know, based on the taxes that they would have had to pay, which is about what, 55 percent for like, you know, gifts and inheritances. So by that math, they should have paid about 550 million dollars in taxes total and all

that inherited wealth. But through all their fucking trickery, they ended up paying only $52.2 million or 5%. Right. And like this is the kind of shit we're talking about. I don't know. I mean, I'm glad that this story was effectively reported. I don't really. Do we not all know that at this point?

It's weird. Yeah. I mean, It's weird, yeah. I mean, that's the sad thing. That's why we're sort of in this weird moment, too, where immediately I'm like, well, what's the statute of limitations on this shit? It's all past. So there's only civil litigation they could go through to try and recoup any of that money.

I know Bill de Blasio has said, we're looking to see how we can recoup some of this money. But it's not like the kind of thing where it's like, aha, finally, like as john oliver will do on his shows like we got him like no it ain't gonna happen and he's already and he's not even really denying it either trump like he's just like uh that's tired and if you want to hide information from a trump supporter just put it in a 55 000 word new york times article because i'm sure nobody's reading that but i mean at the the same time, just truthfully and honestly speaking, what he does is rob

the 99% of Americans out of money. And still be a bad businessman. Right. And then blow that money on helicopters and failed businesses. blow that money on helicopters and failed businesses. Do you think, I mean, I just look at the photos of him and his parents, like how much, do you think they raised him being like, oh, Donald, you are so miserable?

Or do you think they were encouraging him? Well, his dad, in the article it says that his dad and him always, they were like clones of one another. They had the same values. They viewed everything as like, you know, kill or be killed essentially. And so. They only know two speeds.

Right. Fuck or kill. If only he'd gone in the Durst direction. Right. You know, like Durst, he, not to,

we should all be a little more like Robert Durst. I think we could all learn a lesson or two. Jamie, if you've said it once, you've said it a thousand times. Just burp during your murder confession. But, you know, wearing neck brace to court I think is a good lesson. Say you were on heroin, say your crimes don't count. Could you imagine, though, if that's where Donald Trump— If he's just like, hey, it seems like this Durst guy has some good ideas,

then wear some neck brace to court. All that to say, Robert Durst had just like, hey, it seems like this Durst guy has some good ideas, then we're sitting next to court. All that to say, Robert Durst had just as much money, and he was like, nah, I think I'm just going to kill people. Right, right. Sadly, why am I longing for President Durst and then the jinx with Donald Trump, just a switched reality? Oh, my God. Was Durst pretty progressive? reality. Oh my god. Was Durst pretty progressive? I mean, the

pro-murder agenda is very... Okay, murder aside. Murder aside, I mean, there are worse people out there. Certainly worse people. I don't know what his politics were. He's usually in hiding somewhere. He seems apolitical. How he treated women would lead you to believe

that maybe not the most progressive dude in the world. But he did also kill a man so close to parody. There we go. If he had killed one more man, it would have been a parody murder. They cancel out. You're just a straight up murder. And then dozens of dogs that he all named the same thing. Which is one of my favorite crazy details of any crazy person is that he was just like kept naming them all the same thing and murdering them.

Yeah. That's your Durst Update of the Day. And so this is an interesting little release from the Hater app, which I was not familiar with. But Miles, explain what the Hater app is. It's basically Tinder for haters. Right. Their whole idea is that they'll match people based not on shared interest, but shared hatred of something, which I think is called the 4chan dating section. But yeah, their whole thing is like you put in like, what's the thing you don't like or whatever?

And every like I feel like every year, the last or for the last year and a half, the apps existed, they've looked like released lists before. They're like, based on our data, these are what the people hate most in these specific States. And now they just did one that was all based around food. And it's a very interesting, uh, image because it, it, it just shows like in each state, what the most hated food is now this in no way is real scientific data because it's a dating app that matches people based on what they hate one of the first things you notice is each state has a different food that they most hate which is the sign that this was edited for to be like good content and not like to just have a bunch of interesting information rather than actually like being a scientifically based thing.

Like no two states had the same food that they hate the most. No. I love content. I mean, they're just laying in some sick tent here. Sick tent. And it's a good way to get people to try and download their so like overtly negative cynical app it's like what do you fucking hate right we'll find somebody for you but yeah it reads like a thing where i don't know

if this you know you look at each state some states make sense right texas as they say steak cooked well done okay i can see how that makes sense but they voted for trump so how do you explain that well how about this new y, they hate ranch on pizza. So I get that too. I can see how as a New Yorker, you look at that kind of shit and you're like, oh, that's fucking nonsense. Right? But again, you don't know where these people are using this app.

So I would just reckon that it is like whatever the most, like the two most populated cities are actually determining what each state actually hates. Because California is Chick-fil-A. That doesn't make sense. Man, I drive by Chick-fil-A. I go to Chick-fil-A. I see people

there. They got past it. I don't know what's going on. But again, I feel like if you're on an app and you're trying to find a mate, you would say, I hate Chick-fil-A because that will probably mean someone who does not appreciate homophobia. Right. You know what I mean? Right. And then that way you know if you put that shit there,

you're not going to get some weird... Oh, the subtext. Yeah. Or you're just a dude who's like, hey, this will make me seem more like woke or whatever. So you never know what someone's motivation is. Literal virtue signaling.

Right. Massachusetts, my home state, is mayonnaise on fries. Yeah. Wow. As a chub head myself, I strongly disagree. I don't know. Yeah. Wow. As a chub head myself, I strongly disagree. I don't know.

Sure? Yeah. You love the chub head. Yeah. Start a new podcast, Chubbo Trap House later. But yeah, what I don't understand is North Dakota was tapas? Yes. So you hate everything about tapas? Or was there one tapas restaurant that opened up and you're like, man, fuck Olay.

I have my most baffling one that I'll get to. But there is another trend that you see that is basically the reverse of virtue signaling where it's like, we don't give a fuck about you East Coasters. Like West Virginia's tofu. Kentucky is hummus because, you know. Which one's La Croix? I don't know what the states are. Nevada. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, La Croix? I don't know what the states are.

Nevada. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nevada. I don't know what the states are. Colorado, they hate Flamin' Hot Cheetos. I don't know, man. Florida hates.

All the weed you smoke up there. Oklahoma not liking veggie burgers. I get that, you know. Right. That's what you would expect. There's one that's, okay, there are a few. I'm interested in what Jack's baffling one is. A few are throwing me here.

Okay, what do you got? What's really throwing you? I don't understand foraged food. So that's Tennessee, and foraged food is like a hippy-dippy trend. So they're like, fuck you, lefty, foraged food. Okay, so that's another fish shaker. Kiss my ass. We pay for our food in Tennessee.

That's another fish shaker. And it's just, you know, it's like basically going around, gathering your wild food up, and they're like, oh, okay. Quinoa's one like that, where they're like, hippies suck. Right. Also, Arkansas cilantro? Yeah. I wonder if that's just like, I like the Alabama,

it was just straight up Chipotle. Yeah. I can hear that dog whistle loud and clear, my man. You do not fuck with Chipotle. Florida licorice is bumping me, too. Yeah. I can hear that dog whistle loud and clear, my man. You do not fuck with Chipotle. Florida licorice is bumping me too. Right. What is that? Okay, so this is the third category that we were talking about earlier,

which is there's like some self-hatred slash self-deception where it's like licorice is they're like, we're not all old. We hate licorice. It's like where there's originals and licorice is, they're like, we're not all old. We hate licorice. It's like Werther's Originals and licorice are the things they hate. And another state that you see that trend is in New Jersey, where their most hated food is gas station wine. It's like, fuck off, New Jersey. That's so specific because you don't want to be seen as a bridge and tunnel person.

The corner piece of a brownie. What is that? That one is very confusing to me. Or what a Missouri's is the last bite of a hot dog. Yeah. Why? Do people just like rate? Do you just be like, fuck, this is the thing I hate about eating a hot dog, man. That last bite.

Yeah. Oh, are they just saying I love hot dogs so much I hate when they end? Oh, wow. God damn it. I never thought about that, I love hot dogs so much, I hate when they end? Oh, wow. God damn it, I love hot dogs. I never thought about that. I just love them so much. You're just so tortured. You're like, I'm so sorry.

I don't know how to take the last bite. Do you guys not like the last bite of a banana? Do you have any thoughts on that? I don't even eat bananas. You don't eat bananas. They make my throat itch. They're not. Yeah, and I don't love it.

It's not my favorite bite. Right. Does it bother you? It does bother me a little bit. And one time I was in a forum, and there was a big thread of people being like, I hate it too. Like we all just discovered we didn't like the last one. Why, because it's all warm? Because it's like everything meets there, and it becomes this like, it's not even worse.

It tastes exactly like the rest of the banana, but it's just like some weird unconscious thing. You know, actually, now that I think about it, as a kid, my dad would be like, yo, you better finish that fucking thing because I would get to that part and be like, nope. Yeah, I just wonder if that's the same as two dick-shaped foods. I wonder if there's like some unconscious thing

about like, oh, well, it's the tip and it's like where it like gets all, I don't know, mashed together. You don't want to eat the whole penis. Right. Also, why do they hate Coca-Cola in Hawaii? Is there something going on? I don't know.

Did Coca-Cola help with the annexation of Hawaii? Is there a political reason why everyone in Alaska hates a specific brand of water? That's a very good question. Voss water. I just said water like I'm from Baltimore. Water? Yeah, water. Water?

I mean, yeah. Some things, it's just very interesting to see. Again, this is not scientific, so I would not trust this. We took a survey of hateful people. Here's what they thought. I mean, pumpkin, spice, anything. Was that Wyoming? There are some that are just trendy.

I think that's, is that not North Dakota? No, tapas is North Dakota. And then Idaho, they hate dim sum. Uh-oh. And Maine hates Asian fusion. It's like, huh. Come on, I like Maine. You like Maine?

I'm literally Asian fusion. I played hockey there a couple times, and it was nice as a kid. I mean, it's good for ice-related activities. Yeah, here's the thing. Last time I was there, 11 years old. Yeah, Maine's great when you're 11 years old. The second you, I mean, there are some wonderful people in Maine. Yeah, of course, of course.

But there's also some scary fucking people in Maine. That's what intrigues me about Maine, because there is this sort of wilderness culture out there still, where they're like, this is fucking Maine. I spent a lot of time in Maine growing up because my grandma lived there. And the neighborhood she lived in, it ran the gamut in terms of political opinions. And people were live wires in Maine. And there's a lot of space to yell. Right.

A lot of space to yell. A lot of beautiful nature up there. A lot of space to yell. Right. A lot of space to yell. A lot of beautiful nature up there. A lot of space to yell. Love yelling. Stephen King didn't come from nowhere. Stephen King lived in that same town. Oh, really? Yeah. Also, what's going on with Nebraska not liking chili peppers?

Yep. I feel like that might be one of those dog whistles. Yeah, because it's too much where it's like, ooh. Is that Colorado who hates flaming hots? Yeah. Why?

I don't know. Colorado, speak up. It's a very white state, I feel like. You would think that flaming hots, everyone loves flaming hots. Especially a place where weed is legal. I feel like Colorado, there would be an unusual, like if you were percentage-wise breaking down Flamin' Hot-induced UTIs state by state,

Colorado would be up there. Flamin' Hot, yeah, who knows? And then, yeah, in Oregon, theirs was fast food. That feels like a Portland vibe. Yeah, for sure. Because that feels like that would probably be their biggest market. Portland and Eugene. Yeah.

They're just like, come on, man. Oh, man, Eugene. Keep your fast food out of here. Cheeba Hut. They're like, just let your neighbor baby bird into your mouth. It's just as good. It's just as good. And then New Mexico hates chicken nuggets.

Got it. That's a very odd thing. I get if you hate quinoa or something. Or some people don't like biting string cheese. They're very offended by it. That was Illinois. That's an action, not a, that's confusing too. Yeah, but I like that as a pet peeve though

because I know. I get it. The first time I remember seeing as a kid some fucking psycho caveman kid, I went to school, would bite a fucking string cheese. I was like, that's not how you do it.

That's not how it works. You thread it down until you're holding fucking spider webs. So was like, that's not how you do it. That's not how it works. You thread it down until you're holding fucking spider webs. So much wasted flavor. Yeah. The one that I'm most confused by is Minnesota beans.

Hmm. I just don't, beans? All beans? All of them? They're showing string beans, it looks like. So is it because of casseroles?

I don't know. You'd think Minnesota would be way into casseroles also. Maybe they're trying to disperse. New Hampshire hates expensive cocktails. Yeah. And Vermont, the spray cheese, they're like, we take our sharp cheddar very seriously. Most of it just seems to be rural virtue signaling where they're like, I don't fuck kombucha.

That's Arizona. And then California is virtue signaling too. Chick-fil-A, no way. Not here, bro. Can't get away with that. Chai lattes is Pennsylvania. Utah's I think. What is wrong with balsamic vinegar? That is also oddly specific. I hate balsamic

vinegar. Balsamic vinegar is considered crack in Utah. That's too much. They don't sell it on Sundays. I mainline it. We're not monsters. We don't do balsalsamic vinegar I'm mainlining balsamic vinegar right now balsami balsami yummy

balsami yummy lofty Jamie it's been wonderful having you as always oh thank you always where can people find you you can find me on twitter having you as always. Oh, thank you. Always. Always. Always. Always. Where can people find you? You can find me on Twitter at Jamie Loftus Help.

Instagram, Jamie Christ Superstar. Very brave for not having a cohesive social media presence. That is brave. Also, I would recommend if it's in your town, see the movie

All About Nina. It's a movie about a female stand-up. It stars Mary Elizabeth Winstead. And I worked on it, and it's good. Alright. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh, shit.

Probably. Oh, fuck. Okay, wait. Come back to me. Alright. I will take this moment to acknowledge Parker Molloy tweeted that Trump's parents look like their secondary characters from a Tim Burton movie. So shout out to her because I said that like it was my own joke and it was not. Miles, where can people find you, follow you? God, do you even want to at this point but if you do uh go to twitter and instagram

at miles of gray and is there a tweet you've been enjoying oh wow this question is not going well i did that to buy time to find one oh okay this is Onion, and it's a photo of Brett Kavanaugh and a guy who looks like a vice correspondent who's smoking a cigarette. And it says, newly sober Kavanaugh introduces sponsor who says he needs Supreme Court seat as part of recovery. That's awesome. Oh, here's a fun one that it just made me laugh. It's from Julia Claire at OhJuliaTweets. Raisins are honestly so embarrassing.

It's like they just tweeted three days ago that it was just the thought thing. Soy embarrassing. I was like, I would love to hear your 45-minute TED Talk

on this. Soy embarrassing. Soy embarrassing. Like, you think she looks at a raisin and goes, oh my, I'm the secondary cringe.

She's been my best friend for years. I have no idea what she's fucking talking about there. Uh-oh. I love it. Time to find out. Yeah.

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information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we write out on. We also link off to that information in the show notes. Miles, what is the song we will be writing out on the night? You know, I think we see some smooth vibrations

and nothing feels smoother than like kind of surf rock but with a Brazilian vibe. And this is a track from Sugeorge and the band Almas together. They had an album come out a few years ago that was wonderful.

But this is a track called Ciranda. And it's got, you know, it's got a good vibration. You know, somebody's asking for more tracks for all my Brasileiros and Brasileiras out there. So, yes, enjoy. Alright, we're going to ride out on that.

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