The Daily Zeitgeist - MoviePass Going Strong? Bezos vs. The National Enquirer 2.11.19

Episode Date: February 11, 2019

In episode 327, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and Sports Without Balls podcast host Erin Foley to discuss James Dolan's band, activists looking to find more racist imagery in politicians' year...books, Matthew Whitaker testifying before the Judiciary Committee, Jeff Bezos being extorted by AMI, Movie Pass refusing to die, and more! FOOTNOTES: 1. WATCH: JD & The Straight Shot - Better Find A Church (Official Music Video)2. A New Project Will Have Black College Students Look for Racist Imagery in Politicians’ Yearbooks3. This will go down as an instant classic in the halls of Congress. Members and their staff will be laughing about this bush league move by a government witness for decades to come...4. Rep. Jackson Lee: "Mr. Attorney General, we're not joking here, and your humor is not acceptable. Now you are here because we have a constitutional duty to ask questions, and the Congress has the right to establish government rules."5. No thank you, Mr. Pecker6. Farrow: National Enquirer company tried to blackmail me on Trump reporting7. After Bezos Post, Ronan Farrow Says He’s Received Similar ‘Blackmail Efforts from AMI’8. “Do We Want to Be in Business?” The Strange, Never-Ending Saga of MoviePass9. MoviePass is staffed by dogs now, apparently10. MoviePass Unveils Billboard Campaign on the Same Day It’s Hit With Class-Action Lawsuit11. Bruce Willis Signs Three-Picture Deal With MoviePass Films12. WATCH: Zikomo - Trouble Sleep Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:29 Jack O'Brien. Daily Zeitgeist. Take my hand. Off to DZ Podcast Land. Boom. Courtesy of Stuart Thomas. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. I need an around-the-way gray that gets high with me.
Starting point is 00:02:56 And he's sick of sick, fat, chug, chug. Oh, you're my bean. Thank you to, who was that? Yeah, I love that sample. Big Green Energy at Jordan's Learned for that one. Even though I had to add that part at the end. But yes, we all need an around the way. Right?
Starting point is 00:03:13 Uh-huh. Who will get high with me. With me, yes. And who can twist Dutch's effortlessly. Uh-huh. And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious stand-up comedian, Aaron Foley. Hello. What's up?
Starting point is 00:03:26 Those are two of my favorite songs. Really? Yeah. Enter Sandman. Yeah, they're both my ringtones. One for the week and then the other one on the weekend. But that's for the week. Enter Sandman makes people realize you mean business.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Yeah. Get out of your way. Every day I wake up to the closing song of Mariano Rivera's career. Yes. Enter the Sandman. Uh-huh. And then Around the Way Girl on the weekends. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:03:53 For sure. Are you excited about your boy Mariano? I am. I am. I just saw a t-shirt that said unanimous or something. He put mo in unanimous and I was like, I might get it. Wait, why? What did he do?
Starting point is 00:04:10 He got in the Hall of Fame. Is that the first time ever? It's the first time ever. Ever, right? Yeah. Oh, he's the first unanimous No one has ever been unanimously voted elected. I mean, I can't remember. I'm not a huge baseball fan, but I can't remember anybody being as dominant at their position as he was as a closer.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Like he was just. Yeah. And he has such a good, he has such a good story. Yeah. He was like a starter and he kept getting, he sent down, you know what I mean? He just, it was like a total. And then he just like found a cutter in the off season. Right.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Like everyone finds like, you know, diseases in the off season. Right. Like a finds like, you know, diseases in the offseason. Right. It's like a Hall of Fame cutter. Yeah. Yeah. So that was exciting. Aaron, you're a big sports fan. We're going to talk some sports today by way of terrible white guy jazz blues music.
Starting point is 00:05:00 And we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. But first, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about today. We're going to talk about the ongoing revelation of the state of Virginia and the white population therein and their problematicness. dick toilet, making his big appearance, his big premiere debutante on speaking in front of the house in such a way that we could see him. And it was impressive. Yeah. Yeah. Good showing.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Yeah. Very strong showing. We're going to talk about the battle we deserve between Jeff Bezos and AMI. We've been talking about AMI since before they were a national... Before it was popular. Before it was a household name. We used to do the Boyd Watch here on the Daily Zeitgeist. And we like to talk about how David Pecker was one of Trump's homies who would help him out. And turns out that became national news. And yeah, it's not like we were doing
Starting point is 00:06:05 original reporting. We just read the New Yorker. I think they get that from our show. The only thing we're breaking is like, yo, have you had that thing at Taco Bell? Yeah, yeah. That's the most original reporting. I think the most original story we broke was that there might be cheesy bacon fries coming for McDonald's. We doubled down on that. We'll talk about the Green New Deal. We'll talk about the outbreak of measles.
Starting point is 00:06:34 We'll talk about all sorts of things. But first, Erin Foley, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are as a person? Well, this is a wormhole. I went down. I had to take a picture because I couldn't remember the title, but I clicked on it and then I couldn't stop. It said, gut doctor, I bet Americans to throw out this vegetable. And I clicked on it.
Starting point is 00:07:00 I bet Americans. I beg, sorry. Oh, I beg Americans. Oh, it's like a quote from a gut doctor. Yeah. Got it. And I was like, what vegetable? Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Because I eat a lot of vegetables. Okay. And I was like, what am I eating that's like ruining my gut? You know, when you click on these things and then 20 minutes later, I still didn't discover it because it was like, watch this guy's 40 minute video on gut rot. And then like, you know how you just get sucked in and you keep clicking and you can never get to the information. Where's my free iPod?
Starting point is 00:07:29 Yeah. I was like, Oh God, it's three o'clock. I started this at 9am. Is it celery or you never found out? I never. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:38 So you Googled to be like, what's the fucking vegetable? I just kept going. And then really it was like 20, it was, it was one of these things where then I think at one point I got it to like, then $1.99, you know, click on, it was just. Yeah. And so then I just started guessing.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Right. Was that clickbait like at the bottom of like another article? Like one of those things off to the side. Yeah, it was one of those things where you're like. When it's like even doctors are concerned about Aaron Trump's IQ. What? Yeah, yeah. It's like, these genes make you look thin.
Starting point is 00:08:08 You're like, what? You're like, okay. Yeah. Yeah, it was one of those things. It's always a shameful experience, but sometimes you just have to click on them. They're like, well, they got me. Like, oh, no, this guy definitely got me. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:22 It'll be like a person who's had clearly Photoshopped face, and you'll never guess what celebrity went overboard with plastic surgery. And then you go, and it's like, okay, Muriel Hemingway? Right. What? Yeah. I just have a bad stomach, and I'm always trying new things. So I was like, what do you mean?
Starting point is 00:08:42 All vegetables are perfect. Isn't that troubling that Google knows you have a bad stomach? Of course it does. Yeah. Because every time when my computer's off, I go, I have a bad stomach. And then I turn it back on and it's like, do you have a bad stomach? We're just going to guess here. We're going to throw something out.
Starting point is 00:08:58 You can tell us if we're wrong. What is something you think is overrated? This sounds ridiculous, but I was just touring a lot the last couple of months, and I was in a lot of East Coast, really cold cities, and I had to drink a lot of hot beverages. So I'm going to put hot beverages on overrated, specifically hot coffee. Wow. I was drinking cold brew on like an eight degree day, and I was totally fine with it. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:09:23 I drank a lot of hot beverages and I'm like, they're overrated. Yeah. You know, the drinking cold stuff isn't great for your gut though. I know. Yes. That gut doctor.
Starting point is 00:09:34 I beg Aaron to drink hot beverages. This vegetable iced coffee. You need to throw that out. Uh, yeah. Any, anybody who has parents from like the old world or relatives from Europe or something- Just saying, immigrants.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Yeah. Has been told, throw out that cold beverage. Oh, my mom, for the long- She only drinks hot tea and shit. Right. And she's like, oh, it's bad for you if you drink cold water all the time. And I'm like, look, splinter. I'm going to get down on you too.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Let me beer bong this ice water. Yeah, my mother-in-law, anytime I'm sick, she thinks it's because I drink too many cold beverages. Right, right, right. Or the air conditioner was on. That's the other one where I was like, oh, you're going to die. Oh, it's a draft. It's a draft.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Korean fan death. What's in a draft? You know, monsters, diseases. That's exactly right. What's something you think is underrated? Alright, this is good. Hold on to your butts, guys. Yeah, squeeze your butts. Your cigarette butts.
Starting point is 00:10:36 The quiet car of Amtrak. Okay. I just did a six and a half hours from New York to Virginia and then Virginia back to New York in the quiet car at Amtrak because I was so sick of taking planes because the worst of humanity – or it brings out the plane travels the worst of humanity. Oh, yeah. And it was a magical experience. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:57 It was self-policed. And I'm talking to you – Like shushing? No, I mean like these two guys sat down next to me. They were quietly talking and I was totally fine with that. I just didn't want anybody yapping on their phones. Right, right, right. And this woman turned around and goes, excuse me, this is a quiet car.
Starting point is 00:11:13 There's absolutely no talking. And I thought, oh, shit's going to go down. And they go, oh, I'm so sorry. And they took their ticket and walked to another car. That's how it started. And I was like, this is. Respect to the quiet car. mean it was unbelievable it was like everybody's dream sequence like on the way back this guy was talking on the phone which didn't happen for the first like nine hours right and
Starting point is 00:11:37 i felt like empowered and i was like excuse me sir it's a quiet car there's absolutely no talking on your cell phone because i just had to do it right and he goes oh i'm so sorry i didn't know this was the quiet car and he turned off his phone it was like a it was a dream sequence it was like being in japan right like every train is quite well i didn't realize that that was like an option yes the quiet and i've been in the car before but i hadn't been on a train in a while and i right and it was but they took it seriously no i mean sanctity it was like a lie it was a traveling library i it seriously, respected the sanctity of it. It was like a traveling library. I was like, can I commute on this train? Right, I know.
Starting point is 00:12:07 I mean, I don't have a job in New York and Virginia, but I was like, I could get stuff done. Right, right. My blood pressure could go down. Was it the Acela? No, it was just a little- What's the Acela? Oh, that goes real fast. It's the super fast one that goes from New York to D.C., I think.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Yeah. It goes in 20 minutes and it costs $850. Right. But you literally get there in 20 minutes if it doesn't fly off the tracks. Right. Remember the early Excel problems? Yeah, where they hadn't quite figured it out. No, they're like, wear a helmet.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Good luck. We have a problem with Lyft. Right. Right. It goes so fast. You guys put some spoilers on that. And finally, what's a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false?
Starting point is 00:12:50 Well, I mean, it hasn't been completely fact-checked, but I'm really questioning the myth of apple cider vinegar. Okay. Because I have it every day, and yet I'm still tired. My back hurts. My vision is going for distances. That sounds like you're having real problems. And I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Sounds like you're falling apart here. The person who suggested apple cider vinegar, what did they promise you? If you Google the effects of apple cider vinegar, you get 17 pages and it cures everything that's wrong with you. Literally, it goes down to like, you got a, you know, you got a bunion, apple cider, that, like, literally. Is it with mothers? Yes. Okay, because that's the stuff,
Starting point is 00:13:32 I had to bring some apple cider vinegar to Japan for some relatives, and who swear by it. Yeah. And they're like, but it has to be with the mothers. And I'm like, I don't know what the fuck that is. That's the stuff that's floating in the bottom of the jar. Yeah, the bottom's like the sediment.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Yeah. Of it. Yeah. I'm just saying, I thought. know what the fuck that is. That's the stuff that's floating in the bottom of the jar. Yeah, the bottom of the sediment. Yeah. Of it. Yeah. Yeah. Mothers are making sure. I'm just saying I thought. You thought it was a miracle. I thought it would be a miracle, you know? And I'm not saying it doesn't.
Starting point is 00:13:53 I'm just saying easy, easy apple cider vinegar. How much do you drink in a day? You're supposed to have like a tablespoon a day. Right. And then you cut like diluted with some water. Oh, you drink it? And then I have a couple glasses of wine at night. And then I like wake up and I feel a little fuzzy.
Starting point is 00:14:05 I'm like, when is this apple cider vinegar going to start kicking in? When does it kick in? Wait, so, sorry. The With Mothers thing you guys just said, to me, felt like I was having a stroke. Yeah, I know it sounds crazy when someone says, yeah, make sure you get it with the Mothers. Okay, Mothers is the stuff on the bottom? Well, there's one brand that everyone swears by that they drink. That's called With Mother.
Starting point is 00:14:26 And there's a version that- No, there's a version of that brand that does not have mothers. Yeah. And there's one that is that brand with mothers. It's like the kombucha, like the mother plant of the kombucha. Got it. It's like sort of the same thing. You know how people grow, like they have to get like the mother plant of the kombucha-
Starting point is 00:14:42 So it's like pulp. In their closet? Right. It's like a pulp. Okay, got it. People grow. I don't know anything about boots growth. You're deep in this hipster beverage world.
Starting point is 00:14:53 It's not even a hipster thing. It's lesbo land. Okay. I have so many freaking lesbos in my life that are growing kombucha, and they're freaking, you know. Is that the new thing? Dog closet. Dog closet. Whatever that means it just
Starting point is 00:15:06 flew out of my mouth right but they're like well we gotta get that but the mother has to be in a quiet dark place i'm like do you hear what you're saying so it's like what lesbians like it's like weed growing for lesbians right now i grow my own booch right yeah no i'm serious yeah the the real uh hipster booch thing hit like peak mass I was at a show, and all the cocktails, the only mixers they had were kombucha. Oh, wow. And they're like, you want a Jack and booch? And I was like, get the fuck away from me.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Oh, my God. And I was like, you don't have anything else? Like, nah, it's like all kombucha-based cocktails. Right. LA fucking needs to just be vaporized. Oh, my God. Wow. Kombucha-based cocktails.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Cocktails. And the flavors do not go well together. And I'm sure some bar person is going to be like, actually, you should try it like this. Right. And if you do, invite us to your bar to drink unlimited for free on that. Yeah. Just disclosure, I am gay, so I can say lesbo. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:15:57 I don't want your things like, who the hell is this lady? Who's this fella? I just, based on my Mariano rivera knowledge that should have been your cue but just in case all right well while we're on the subject of new york sports we are pivoting to the wmba uh because uh just before we started recording i revealed something that i i thought everybody knew who was a New York sports fan, but James Dolan, former owner of the New York Liberty, who sold them, I guess. He kicked them out of the garden.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Kicked them out of the garden. Also just the worst team owner ever, I think. People generally agree he's the worst. For people who are not literate in James Dolan, explain why he's so bad. He inherited a giant company from his father and also the ownership of the New York Knicks. They have been atrocious for basically 20 years. For millennia. Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:57 And based almost exclusively on hiring decisions that he has made. And they would have had an amazing run post LeBron's decision. LeBron and Dwayne Wade, it has now been revealed, wanted to go to the Knicks and bring basketball back to New York and just make the Knicks great again. And they met with James Dolan
Starting point is 00:17:21 and came out of that like, we're going to Miami. This guy is a fucking joke. He's a garbage person. He's terrible. His pitch presentation was a concert. Yeah. So that's what we just talked about right before we started recording. He has a band that he plays in, that he sings in,
Starting point is 00:17:39 sings in quotes. They're called JD and the Straight Shot. I can't even. And they are breathtaking because they're all. So he's maybe early 60s, mid 60s. He's 89. I just I need him to. And he has hired he has hired a bunch of, you know, 20 to 30 something musicians to hang out with him and pretend.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Be the straight shot. Yeah, be the straight shot. And it is among the worst things you will ever experience. If you look them up on YouTube, we will play a little segment of J.D. and the Straight Shot for you right now. This is called Better Find a Church. Better Find a Church, guys. Oh, yeah. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:18:27 I know your move really great okay just so you know it's four people standing in the church in the pews you don't see the bass player everyone's holding a guitar but no one's playing and there's 17 women's basketball players crying in the background. Better find a church. So he got an actual singer to sing over him, so it seemed like he was harmonizing with something, but it's just that he's... He's wearing like a pork pie hat. Better find a church. Trying to look like an edgy musician.
Starting point is 00:18:56 It's really cringey. I was already cringing when you were like, oh, he sings like jazz or blues or whatever garbage is coming out of his mouth. And then the first song you pull up is Better Find a Church. I'm like, it's too much. Yes. And he's just one of the great unintentional sources of comedy in the world.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Yeah. And he's in charge of like the Knicks and the Lippers. You know what I mean? Yes. It's so bad. I mean, the garden is like, it's so iconic and it's such a, you know, it's not this monster cathedral. It's almost like a church.
Starting point is 00:19:33 It's almost like a church. Of sports. It's a great place to see a game. You know what I mean? Oh, it is. It's the best. It's a really great court. Like, it's not, you don't, there's no bad seats.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Like, it's amazing. You'd want to go. The Knicks were just revealed to be the most valuable franchise, I think, in the NBA, not in sports. I mean, some of us remember when the Garden was Eden. Okay. Great 30 for 30 plug.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Anyways, you were saying that the Liberty now play in a nursing home in Westchester. They literally play in a community gym, but the Nets owner just bought them. Oh, good. Pokerov? The Japanese guy. Oh, okay. I think he's got controlling stake or 49 or whatever.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Joseph Tsai? I don't remember his name. Taiwanese Canadian billionaire. Yes. Joseph Tsai. Joseph Tsai, sorry. not or whatever so uh joseph sai i didn't i don't remember his name taiwanese canadian billionaire yes joseph sai so joseph sai sorry i just screamed out the japanese guy which is uh well that's what they say i was born in virginia but they yell at me at 7-elevens i just didn't know his name but i i was screamed in delight i was like who is this guy i love him right yeah because it's it's ridiculous they have but anyway the whole point is i think they have a lot of stuff already booked for the summer in um barclays so i think
Starting point is 00:20:51 it's maybe next summer they'll come right they'll do some games at barclays and more on the roads i don't know it's just like the liberty was is is when i lived in the city like it was so fun you know the whole thing is like you see these little girls and they're wearing Tina Charles jerseys. Like, and like, you know, we never got to do that growing up. So it's so important and it's such a fun sport and,
Starting point is 00:21:14 uh, it's such a family affair and it's awesome. And to lose that in the city is so heartbreaking. Yeah. But I believe he had to clear out some space for JD in the straight shot. Yeah. Yeah, but I believe he had to clear out some space for JD in the straight shot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:30 They're touring exclusively in Madison Square Garden, which he owns. In the men's room. Yes. Yes. Let's talk Virginia. You were just there riding trains. You said you're from Virginia. No, no, no. I was joking.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Because I didn't know the guy that was not from Japan. So this has turned out to be such a trend in Virginia, the wearing blackface in school yearbooks, that a group of activists from Richmond has put together a GoFundMe to pay students from historically black universities to go through yearbooks and look for evidence of racist behavior and imagery. And I feel like this is going to be just one news break after another. Or that will last for years to come. Yes. Yeah, I mean, because after the Mark Herring thing or the AG of Virginia, his blackface scandal, Ralph Northam's blackface scandal, then we found out last week that the Republican Virginia State Senator Tommy Norman, who's
Starting point is 00:22:27 the majority leader of the chamber, was the editor of the VMI, Virginia Military Institute's yearbook. And again- Called Blackface. Called, yeah. Your face is so damn black. With, again, just more blackface in the yearbook. But the headlines are weird.
Starting point is 00:22:42 It's like, Virginia politician oversaw yearbook with blackface. I'm like, let's not say oversee with blackface anyway. But yeah, it's just, you know, it's a thing. But I mean, I don't think this is necessarily a lot of the takes are hyper-focused on Virginia. This is a worldwide thing, but yeah, right now it's Virginia's turn in the hopper because yeah, now we have just straight up go fund me is where we're doing grassroots oppo research where they're like go through every person who's serving in virginia politics and find and then then then start moving south right and then go to your georgia yearbooks and you go to your alabama i mean i mean this is it's tough to say because it's well it's all just so deeply
Starting point is 00:23:19 horrifying but people go oh my god i'm shocked and're like, oh, you're shocked? Do you read a page? Have you literally, there's any slice of history in the deep South or pretty much anywhere. You know what I mean? But that, I had a friend of mine, he's probably like in his 50s. He's a comedy club booker. He's one of the good guys.
Starting point is 00:23:39 And he, we text back and forth all the time. He went to University of Georgia in like late 80s. And because we were talking about Virginia politics when I was going down there and whatever, we text back and forth all the time. He went to University of Georgia in like late 80s. Okay. And because we were talking about Virginia politics when I was going down there and whatever, because he booked the show in Virginia. And he was like, this is literally what happened when I was in Georgia. He's like, they would do,
Starting point is 00:23:55 the frat parties would do Confederate parties. Yep. Like the spirit of the South parties. Right. And people would come in KKK outfits and blackface. He's like like this was just like literally all the time he's like millennials had golf pros and tennis hoes parties we had straight up confederate shit right yeah he's like so i mean this is gonna be in everybody's
Starting point is 00:24:16 you know you do a little digging you're gonna this is like everybody was doing run dmc right and moonwalks in blackface, yeah. How about his wife was like, that's not appropriate. And he smirked, inappropriate circumstances. And he's like, my wife says inappropriate circumstances. I literally was like, your whole life is in inappropriate circumstances. Of course the lady says it. Somebody pointed out that if you are surprised that this takes place,
Starting point is 00:24:43 you should know that there is a school in Virginia called Lee Davis. It's a high school in Mechanicsville. In Mechanicsville, okay. And their team mascot name is the Confederates. And lest you think that it's named after Bobby Lee and Miles Davis or Viola okay. Or Viola. It is actually, their logo has-
Starting point is 00:25:09 No, don't. Robert E. Lee and Jefferson Davis. Like just standing shoulder to shoulder. I was really hoping it was Bobby Lee and Viola Davis. Right. Because it's those two guys. Well, you know. It's a Robert E. Lee community center for white folk.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Right. Yeah, essentially. And Jefferson Davis wasn't even, I mean, he was born in Kentucky, I know. It's a Robert E. Lee community center for white folk. Right. Yeah, essentially. And Jefferson Davis wasn't even, I mean, he was born in Kentucky, I think. Right. But I guess they just love that. He was the president of the Confederacy. And the capital of the Confederacy was in Virginia. Yep.
Starting point is 00:25:37 There it is, baby. You know, proud of their heritage, right? That's the buzzword. So here's my question for you guys. If I just was thinking about this, like if it keeps unfolding, right? Let's say you get, you know, your top 15 people in line for Virginia all have blackface scandals. Then do you just... We replace them as a state.
Starting point is 00:26:00 You just keep going? Like you just keep going. We replace their statehood with Puerto Rico's statehood. Perfect. Oh, that's interesting. I mean, like, where does it stop? Then you go, well, my blackface story was actually a little bit better than your blackface story. So I'm going to keep my attorney general job, but you have to quit the governorship.
Starting point is 00:26:18 I think the only way to settle it is a dance-off, right? Oh, yes. A moonwalk. A moonwalk dance-off. Curtis Blow versus Michael Jackson. No. All right, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back.
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Starting point is 00:30:32 And we're back. And it's time to talk about one Matthew Whitaker, a.k.a. Dick Toilet, a.k., AKA the acting attorney general. Uh, he went to the house on Friday, uh, to testify before the judiciary committee and they, you know, wanted answers about his involvement in the Mueller probe and,
Starting point is 00:30:57 you know, other things, other ethical issues. Yeah. Like how come you didn't recuse yourself when all the ethics experts were like, recuse your fucking self, dick toilet. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Like, literally, the Department of Justice ethics. Yeah, they were like. Advisors were like, okay, so the ethical thing to do. Is, okay, I'm looking at everything. Yes, you have been rated conflicted dick toilet. Right. And I think you should recuse yourself. But he was like, no, no, I'm good. I'm good.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Just because I wrote some hot op-eds about how it's a bullshit witch hunt doesn't mean hey whatever also could i just could you remind me what the definition of uh recuses and ethical right if you could just freshen up those definitions because i've never learned them while i was shaving my head with my nazi knife Right. My Hitler Youth knife. Right. So he wanted to prove that he had nothing to hide. So on Thursday night, he said he would go and testify on Friday, giving people a lot of time to prepare and be ready for that. So at first, he was really just dragging his feet.
Starting point is 00:32:03 He's like, well, I'm not prepared because I don't even know what they want to talk about. And Jerry now was like, that's so that's verifiably false. I sent you a letter outlining what we wanted to question you about. So shut the fuck up. Check your fax machine, Matt. And he was like, well, I don't know. I mean, like just drag his feet more. And Nadler was like, I will fucking subpoena you to fucking get down here.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Answer these questions. If you don't come down. And then Whitaker's like, well, if you subpoena me, I get down here and answer these questions if you don't come down. And then Whitaker's like, well, if you subpoena me, I'm not going to, like, well, I don't want to do that. That's just, you know, let's not take it there. And then so Jerry Nadler. There are rules. There are rules in place, you dumb.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Can I say five? Head of the Department of Justice. You dumb fucking dick toilet. You dumb fucking dick toilet. So he basically then, Nadler was like okay fine subpoenas off the table but bring your ass here and you better answer these questions don't make this difficult for us because we're we have an oversight role in the government as congress right and he was like okay fine then they got an argument over the subpoena by saying well i'm not gonna come if you subpoena me but he's like if you're here I won't have to subpoena you
Starting point is 00:33:06 because you're here you will have already been here it's just insanity again what is a subpoena it was like an argument that you have when you're a child with like another kid where it's just like okay fine I guess you win that argument
Starting point is 00:33:22 just by sheer like wording but no actual acknowledgement of the logic behind it all Okay, fine. I guess you win that argument just by sheer wording. Right. But no actual acknowledgement of the logic behind it all. Anyway. This is what happens when you go from GED in Kansas to literally Attorney General of the United States of America. Right. I mean, when you have no education or just basic grasp of how the government literally works.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Yeah. or just basic grasp of how the government literally works. Yeah. You're missing some pretty astounding engineering feats in between there where he created a toilet for people with huge dicks and long balls. And Rachel Maddow describing that, trying to get around the toilet was one of the funniest things I've ever. She's like, this makes me uncomfortable, but I'm just going to. Well, he made a toilet. And I was like, please keep going.
Starting point is 00:34:05 This is the best thing ever. Manhood. Anyway. Yeah. So cut to the House Judiciary Committee's hearing. And it was uneventful in the sense that he didn't say anything really meaningful or give real answers. At times, he even pushed back against like GOP congressmen who were like their line of question. Like, you know, I'm here to talk about stuff with the DOJ this is like really this is all over
Starting point is 00:34:29 the place and at one point Jerry Nadler who's the chairman was you know had like real questions like why didn't you recuse like have you you know had to oversee any decisions being made about the just basic stuff about the Mueller investigation and he he was like humming and hawing, trying to run the clock out because everyone has five minutes to question. Anyway, just listen to this genius defensive move by Dick Toilet when Jerry Nadler is being like trying to question him about the Mueller investigation. In your capacity as acting attorney general, have you ever been asked to approve any request or action to be taken by the special counsel? Mr. Chairman, I see that your five minutes is up. And so I'm here voluntarily.
Starting point is 00:35:17 We have agreed to five minute rounds. Have I mentioned that my dick is too big for my toilet right actually can I get one of the dick chairs I don't I can't sit in a regular chair wow that is amazing he's trying to run the clock out he's playing Madden or some shit what the fuck I again this is what I mean it's like these people have no respect right they have no respect for what an attorney general does. They have no respect for oversight. And it's so damaging. It's so damaging because people are going to look at that and go, oh yeah, good for that guy. When you're like, no, this is, and again, it's like not to be like, but a couple steps away, then democracy crumbles. When you have no confidence
Starting point is 00:36:02 in Department of justice and oversight and committee like this is it's really scary yeah well that's what the last two years have done though because with the republicans controlling these committees people just come in and been like you know yeah what am i gonna what do you want me to say here and they're like that's good enough for me thank you sir and the democrats like oh can we follow up no your time's out and three two one your time's out i'm sorry, two, one, your time's out. I'm sorry. Moving on to now. He's like a scam artist. Like Whitaker is a scam artist.
Starting point is 00:36:29 He's under the FBI investigation for scamming people. And he is the highest ranking judicial. The cop, basically. He's a mega cop. Yeah, he's the top cop. So cut to Sheila Jackson Lee from Texas. She Lee? Oh, she had fucking no time for this bullshit.
Starting point is 00:36:49 So again, here's another scenario where a Democrat is trying to question him. And there's a little bit of time issues going on where, again, she's being aware of what time is on the clock. Right. And he tries to pull the same fucking thing. But again, Sheila Jackson Lee is not having it. Again, Mr. Attorney General, the question is, did you have a confirmation hearing? And has it been more than 10 years since you testified before Congress? Congresswoman.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Can the clock be restored? It was. I'm sorry. I don't know if your time's been restored or not mr attorney general we're not joking here and your humor is not acceptable she basically just goes on to rip just saying this is congress right we're here to fucking just figure out what the hell is going on and And we have the power. We have the mandate from the Constitution to do this.
Starting point is 00:37:50 And again, she's like, this is not funny. This is not games. Now you'll see that you've taken two more minutes to make that point. And so your time is up. Your clock is, okay, I'm going to go for a dick toilet break. The sand went out in the hourglass when you flipped it over and your Pictionary time is now over. Yeah. So we shall see where this ends up. I'm sure there'll be more fireworks to come out of it. So did he answer, I know we're in real time here, but he
Starting point is 00:38:18 didn't answer anything. I guess the one thing that he did give an answer on was when he was pressed, did you ever talk to the president or anybody in his cabinet, his inner circle, about your opinions on the Mueller investigation? Yes or no? Did you talk to them before you were appointed? He did answer that and said no. Okay. But I don't believe it.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Yes. We did pass notes secretly, though, on top of the – when we were on our dick toilets, we scribbled out some letters. Talk? No. Whisper? Well, that's a different story. Sign language? Does that count? Using encrypted chatting apps? Yes.
Starting point is 00:38:55 And I guess in further questioning, Whitaker did then, he testified, that's what he says, according to his words, he did not interfere with the Mueller investigation in any way and never refused funding for it. So he's, you know, trying to say, I was a good boy, okay? I'm just a dick toilet trying to make my way in this world like anybody else. With nothing to hide and your time is up.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Yeah, and also your time's up, bro, so I gotta go. And maybe Rod Rosenstein will have a different opinion when he leaves. Yeah. As the overseer. Let's talk about some more shady characters doing the bidding of the president. So AMI, American Media Inc., I think, run by a guy named David Pecker, appropriately. We've been talking about them forever. They're just an amazing outfit of bungling crooks.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Yeah, just fucking con men, liar, extortionists. Yes, and they have been basically busted openly extorting the richest man in the world. Yeah, I mean, so Jeff Bezos last week wrote a medium post like any angsty millennial would. Right. Basically saying like, hey, just so you guys know, I know that like it came out that I was having an affair or whatever, but I preempted that story by just coming out with it because the National Enquirer was going to publish it. And I just kind of want to show you guys some back and forths I've had over email or my organizations have had over email with American Media Inc. and the editor in chief, Dylan Howard, in which basically it, I don't know, I'm not a lawyer,
Starting point is 00:40:35 but this looks like some light extortion going on where essentially National Enquirer was like, hey, so I know you hired like an investigator to kind of try and get to the bottom of why we had like hacked texts if you remember when that lauren sanchez thing came out we read some of the texts where jeff bezos was like i love you alive girl yeah and we're like what the fuck is he going on about um and he was like did you get my package yeah like how did he get those texts i mean although like Lauren Sanchez's brother has like weird connections to Roger Stone and you know he's like a MAGA dude oh but still I do not have access to my sister's text message right so it's one thing that should be noted right no boundary
Starting point is 00:41:17 family I know her passwords anyway so from there he was like something's weird going on especially when it's AMI and like the Washington Post has been up like you know trump hates the washington post and bezos he's like can you look to see if maybe this was politically motivated and when that happened they're like we want you to stop with this we hear you're going to publish a story about how you like you've been investigating how this may have been a politically motivated story if you do not cease and desist from this like just so you know we have some pictures of you that we can leak right like little what what are known as colloquially known as dick pics yes and then other ones of like weird things about just him half naked or
Starting point is 00:41:57 lauren sanchez being happy this is like just weird salacious shit that they stole basically right and described to them in the email yeah so it's ball gag yeah very in very like direct legal terms is so weird so gross um we're like his half-erect manhood peeking out of the zipper of his cargo shorts like cargo shorts uh cargo anyway why is the richest guy in the world wearing cargo shorts hey man, man. To hold all that cash, baby. That's right. So, you know, he was showing the back and forth saying like, this looks like extortion. And apparently, you know, there was a lot when his investigators got near the idea that AMI might have some also connections to the Saudis, which I mean, we all know that they put out like a really cool spread magazine for MBS. 50 page, I heart Saudi Arabia. I heart MBS. So weird. With no ads in it. know that they put out like a really cool spread magazine for mbs i heart saudi arabia i heart mbs
Starting point is 00:42:47 with no ads in it yeah if you were at a grocery store like when mbs was doing his tour of goodwill around uh the western world you probably saw a just glowing like a picture of him that was like a glamour shot it was like a teenour shot. It was like a teen idol. Yeah. Spreadsheet for. That was them. A murderer. Right. And a dictator. He's like, who's this woke, soddy hottie?
Starting point is 00:43:11 And so from there, it just got like darker and darker. And so, you know, a lot of people were like, wow, this is very clear extortion. Yes. I mean, other people, like if they really go like legally put it together, they say maybe it's hard to find like extortionate intent because the language was masked under all this business talk or whatever but it's clear it's like we have naked pictures we will release a view if you don't end with this like politically motivated shit later on like other people reporting that bezos's investigator suspects that maybe there was a government entity involved in getting these
Starting point is 00:43:45 text messages so it's starting to get fucking murky well ami you know has a direct agreement right with muller right yeah so it's okay we you know we caught you red-handed you know you you did the hush money you did you know the the cover-up what does it call it killing the story or catch and kill right so and kill, right? So Mueller has them red-handed and they're like, okay, you won't come to any charge. There'll be no charges. They have to do one thing and that's not commit a crime for three years. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:16 And this is, they go after Jeff Bezos, the wealthiest man on the planet, and they think there's going to be no repercussions. That's what I'm saying. He's dick pic i'm gonna throw a gazillion dollars you know at at this investigation show my dick right and and this is i'll own you literally and and the thing is it's so it's so layered there's so many layers to this because i mean literally washington post you know amazon like everything like Trump has been he's he calls him like his number one enemy right openly openly calls him he like trying to shut down like the post office with Amazon like it's so blatant it's so and then the Khashoggi
Starting point is 00:44:57 spread it's like so obvious and it was interesting reporting last night because they were saying like if it is how you prove that this is extortion, right? It's usually like if you don't send me $850 million, I'll show your dick pics. And that's clear. But this – what they wanted specifically was to say this isn't politically motivated. And knock it off with the Saudi stuff. Right? I mean it's unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:45:23 And it's like – it's so clear. It's like, well, you're not asking for money, but you're asking, you know, don't screw up our Mueller three-year, this isn't a crime plan. Yeah. It's fascinating. I'm convinced there's nothing there. And they should just end this investigation.
Starting point is 00:45:40 They don't seem like the people who have anything to hide. No, I mean, they have so much fucking karma built up, AMI, between when Rose McGowan, when they sent in someone to try and figure out what she knew about Harvey Weinstein, to all the shit during the election. I mean, we already know that they're in for a ride. And I still, again, like you said, you have an immunity deal. Don't go extorting people.
Starting point is 00:46:03 Not the richest man. Who could? He could buy AMI if he really wanted some kind of hostile takeover shit be like go to their board and be like okay uh what do you guys want that's true yeah okay watch me crumple this fucking thing up and toss it in the garbage can but again they're uh the i guess board of directors at ami are like we're gonna look into this to see if anything untoward occurred it It's like he published all the emails right there. I did see this. There's this guy on, I think it was Lawrence O'Donnell last night, and his title was like,
Starting point is 00:46:31 you know, former senior editor of the LA branch of AMI. You know, you could just tell like a total sleazebag back in his day. But he made a really good point. He was like, you know, the readers of the national inquirer right is that where is that the publication that it broke right they he's like probably five percent of them know who jeff bezos is right you know what i mean like this isn't george clooney or brad pitts dick pics like if you were like hey do you know who jeff bezos is they would be like so like what is this like you know there there's no furor and no like oh i cannot wait to see jeff bezos's dick
Starting point is 00:47:14 picks you know what i mean there's not a search heat behind yeah so i was like that's such a good point it's like so how is it not politically motivated yeah especially now because it seems like based on his willingness to turn these over that he probably has a pretty good looking dick. And that's just going to be depressing because he's like the richest guy in the world and he has a great dick. Well, maybe he has some aftermarket work done to his dick. I think it's cringeworthy for the woman. You know what I mean? For him, I'm like, oh, you know, it sucks, but like whatever. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:47:44 But for the woman, you woman, for Lauren Sanchez. Lauren Sanchez, right. I mean, she has to, I would just be like, this is your worst nightmare. Well, yeah, and it's just so salacious. And it's funny because this is the first time I find myself being like, yeah, I'm on Jeff Bezos' side. I know, right? Versus a publication. Yeah, it sucks.
Starting point is 00:48:04 And I'm like, yeah, fuck them up, Jeff Bezos, with all your money. He is inherently a psychopath for having as much money as he has. And not being charitable. There's a list that came out of the most charitable, top five. He's like four out of five. Right. And the problems with Amazon and working and you know what I mean? So I didn't really care that his picture scandal
Starting point is 00:48:26 happened, but the political fallout, I mean, the words government entity, what does that mean? Look, we're all finding ourselves rooting for the FBI. It's like, Jesus Christ, man. FBI, billionaires, girl billionaires. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Bezos isn't the first person to receive these kinds of threats. Because Ronan Farrow came out and was like, oh yeah, they tried to fuck with me too. And he just ignored it? He's like, I don't cut deals with people I'm investigating. With terrorists. There you go. I don't negotiate with terrorists. We didn't get anything about Ronan Farrow, did we?
Starting point is 00:48:58 It's not like they put out some salacious hit piece on her. Or if they did, nobody noticed. Because again, it's not like the national inquire readers are like ronan farrow with a male lover right and they're like what uh and then ap journalists from the ap were also like i think an editor at the ap was also saying like yeah a few of my journalists got things from the from ami too being like hi wow stop sniffing around it's also funny to hear everybody mispronounce.
Starting point is 00:49:28 At some point last night, I was like, is it Bezos? Because I've been saying Bezos the entire time. And then people would come on to comment on the story and they go, Jeff Bezos. Oh, really? And I was like, wait, it's not. Is it Bezos? But I was literally laughing for 20 minutes because someone would be like, here's the problem with Jeff Bezos. And then the next two seconds would be like, Jeff bezos when he started i was like it's the same
Starting point is 00:49:47 person you're running a show but this was like you know cnn msnbc i was like could someone just i'll clarify right right and then the host is like this jeff bazas is not the first person wait bazas we just kept saying b to the z to the O to the S. We were just like, can someone get a clarification on how to pronounce his last name? Yeah. That is a thing with like Mueller as well. Yeah. And like it's – I feel like there are some people who feel like it's cool to say it in a different way because it makes it sound like they know something you don't. Right.
Starting point is 00:50:21 Or something. Or they're like, oh, you say Mueller? Right. Well, that's interesting. I've been saying Mueller. You don't know the. Are they like, oh, you say Mueller? Right. Well, that's interesting. I guess you don't know the derivation from it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Miles, you mentioned karma and this just, I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:50:33 This is a giant bungling spider web of corruption. And the ringleader is currently the president. I feel like believing in karma is what gets our side in trouble a lot of the time. It's just like, there's no karma, clearly, because they are a- You can sidestep karma. Inept criminal organization. And the one thing they have is just shamelessness
Starting point is 00:50:56 and just acting as if doing bad shit will never come back to bite them in the ass. And that has worked for them they are the president right which shows you that you can sidestep karma if you're rich enough right unless you're trying to sidestep the richest man on earth and they'll be like no no i'm sorry my bag is heavier right yeah all right we're gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhearts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption
Starting point is 00:51:53 that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed?
Starting point is 00:52:32 Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Sanner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting
Starting point is 00:53:03 yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career. Without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago, when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson.
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Starting point is 00:54:40 She's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this?
Starting point is 00:54:57 We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people. There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams dream sequence is a new horror thriller from blumhouse television iheart radio and realm listen to dream sequence on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back and you guys remember movie pass from like 25 years ago no it's been has it been that long has it been i look at my hands my aging lines 25 years so it had a bad 2018 movie pass uh and went of business. And that's the last we've ever
Starting point is 00:55:48 heard of it. Goodbye. End of story. Great. Okay. Well, great having you here. No, actually, they're still in business. What? Yeah. The Ringer did a profile where they sent one of their reporters to movie pass headquarters and they couldn't find it because it's in a doctor's office no like in a broom closet or like next to a doctor's office in what looks like a broom closet and it's just the two dudes who totally fucked this whole thing up just sitting there and the the description of the of the interview is that the main guy who screwed it up, whose name I should know, John Moviepass, he says that- Mitch Lowe. Mitch Lowe.
Starting point is 00:56:34 He's the CEO. Big Mitch Lowe was answering questions. He said he was holding onto his seat like he was on a roller coaster. Like he just hasn't recovered from the fuck up that he just put a roller coaster. Like, just like, like he just hasn't recovered from the fuck up that he just put his company through. Yeah, I love it. It just said,
Starting point is 00:56:51 to their credit, Lowe and Item, who is the other partner there, both acknowledged this mistake for them basically like burning bridges with like filmmakers and studios and the theaters with their like just undercutting business.
Starting point is 00:57:03 So he said, for most of our conversation, Lowe is pensiveensive and resigned often picking at the label of his water bottle and when answering questions holding on to the seat of his chair like a car that's careening around a corner too fast oh my god that's like kid in trouble just nervous right behavior like i'm just gonna pick the label off this water bottle anything yeah maybe we fucked up right but then when you tell them about the description of even trying to get to the office that's what's so hilarious how they've gone from movie pass everyone's like oh yeah we're fucking running shit right to this the next netflix is what they were pitched as and so the reporter says i found myself in the large entryway into the offices of Abrams
Starting point is 00:57:46 artists agency. I turned right, which led to a small office with two chairs and a lone Abrams branded iPad meant for signing in. It was a doctor's office only for actors. Finally, I resigned myself to asking the receptionist at Abrams and the receptionist said, oh, it's pretty much right there, she said. Just walk straight ahead. Straight ahead, there was a nondescript door
Starting point is 00:58:10 the same color as the hallway walls. I couldn't be sure that I had noticed it the first two times I walked past it. It looked like the door to a broom closet. As I went to knock, two men opened the door and sauntered out, revealing a full office space behind them. Is this MoviePass?
Starting point is 00:58:26 I asked. They nodded. It's like they're like, shh. Don't say it out loud. Make it hot, man. Right. What's the password? And get in here.
Starting point is 00:58:37 And then they do the thing where they peek their head out the door and look both ways. And then slam the door. Did somebody fucking follow you, dude? All right, shut the fuck up. All right, man. Welcome to MoviePass. And slam the door. Somebody fucking follow you, dude?
Starting point is 00:58:43 All right, shut the fuck up. All right, man. Welcome to MoviePass. My favorite detail, though, is that as they're fielding these difficult questions because there's no good answer to their behavior. Right. How did you fuck up this best? They're like, show them the tape. Like Ellis from Die Hard being like, show them the watch. Show them the tape.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Show them the tape. Yeah. It's this video, Holmes. watch they're like show them the tape show them the tape yeah piece this video home so they put in a video that they have created to like go around and like pitch movie pass to just various uh people who might give them money to keep this charade up and it's just a highlight reel of movies it's they're just like yeah like one of those oscar like reels where it's just there's like movies huh pretty great yeah and here's some popcorn we need one bazillion dollars from you to keep us afloat this is the video plays like oh my god from the article it says the video plays like
Starting point is 00:59:38 one of those compilations the oscars make every year to remind us that yes movies are quite good tom hardy demanding we dream bigger in inception a butts a clip of gal gadot as wonder woman willie wonka waxes poetic while a voiceover speaks of first kisses stolen away in the darkness of a theater and then just tom cruise running in the firm yeah because that's what they are doing you liked all that stuff yeah that was us uh we're movies and they're like, see, dude? This shit's magic, man. And yeah, we're sorry we burned you.
Starting point is 01:00:10 Right. But movies, man. How great are movies? Oh, my God. There's also the fact that in 2018, something I didn't know about is they sent an email to subscribers from an adorable puppy that actually happened. MoviePass thought the best way to save their company was to send their customers an email from Chloe, the director of marketing.
Starting point is 01:00:32 So after they fucked up, like not being able to follow through on their promises to their customers and angry people being like, why did my rates go up? How come half the dates are blacked out? I can't even see a fucking movie. Their idea is to send a,
Starting point is 01:00:47 look at this beautiful, this cute little puppy with a MoviePass bandana on. That's like at the top of this email. And then the text says, woof, I'm Chloe, the director of marketing at MoviePass. I'd like to explain why from time to time
Starting point is 01:01:02 you have had a quote, rough experience with us. Oh, I'm sorry. But it turns out that I'm a dog and I can't talk. What I do know is that I see these humans working like crazy to make MoviePass better and better for you as fast as possible. They're so grateful for your membership and support while they work it out. We're listening. We're learning. We're changing. I'm a dog. I can't speak English.
Starting point is 01:01:28 I'm a dog. You can't get mad at me. Don't get mad at me. Don't get mad at me. Look how cute I am. How high were they in their small little office and they're like, you know, let's just go with the dog. Blame it on that cute dog. No one's going to get fucking mad at a dog.
Starting point is 01:01:43 The dog is chill. Dogs make people smile. We'll hide behind the dog. Sorry about the dump we took in the corner. We're a dog. Honestly, though, I could see the White House employing this tactic at some point of being like, how do we explain the collusion thing? Yeah. Cats. Three cute cats going, what is collusion?
Starting point is 01:02:07 Yeah. Right. Oh, sorry. We're from Meow Scout. Meow Scout. Sorry about that. Sorry for defrauding the US. That does seem to be the new sort of strategy for dealing with fucking up. you just, I mean, this is what Facebook does.
Starting point is 01:02:28 This is now what MoviePass does. I'm guessing it's what the White House is going to do is just, yeah, fuck up and then ask for forgiveness. Yeah, but this is so, such a cowardly move. Like how much do they, is it, it's not in bankruptcy, right? Like they're trying to pull it back. They have those Times didn't they invest they put up some billboards so where do they get the money i don't know put up billboards in time square when they owe everybody money and it's it's now is it it's still now defunct right or no they're actually holding that cute dog for hostage okay that's where they will kill the dog unless you put, yeah, $29.95.
Starting point is 01:03:07 Chloe, the director of marketing, is going to get it. Yeah, right. I'm going to plug her if you don't get the fucking money to us. On the same day that those billboards were unveiled, they were hit with a class action lawsuit. Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, what beautiful timing.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Beautiful timing. And I mean, I think the only reason they could possibly still have some value is all the access to people's private information that they have is probably worth something. Like the data that they have on their user base, which they will presumably sell and exploit. And the deal was 89 movies per week for $1.95, right? Right. Exactly. And it imploded. For one year. $1.99 gets right? Right. Exactly. And it imploded. For one year. $1.99 gets you unlimited movies.
Starting point is 01:03:48 Right. For a year. This is the thing we're learning. It's so odd that the numbers didn't crunch out with that. Turns out. Sustainable. Just doing some quick maths here. And when I say quick, I mean, you're going to fail.
Starting point is 01:04:01 I just did it in my head without a calculator. I mean, I can't even yeah and then the director of marketing i i it's great it's adorable yeah i think the genius there who they must have been so relieved when someone came up with that idea they're like what if we just put chloe in the phone i'm like oh yes fuck yeah yeah right fuck yeah do that do that yes yes yes and then we're gonna change our Facebook profiles to Chloe. Right. Right.
Starting point is 01:04:26 No one can find us. But literally that, like, if you just say it out loud, their strategy was pretend to be a dog. And when people ask us a difficult question, say, we don't speak English because we're a dog. Right. And then you're like, I'm sorry, what? And then how did, then you think, all right, how did these people get as far as they did?
Starting point is 01:04:45 You know what I mean? Like they just, it's literally about, they're probably like great idiot salespeople. You know what I mean? Like they just sit down. It's the Billy McFarlanes of the world. It's like getting the money. Like people will just. Just plowing forward.
Starting point is 01:04:59 I need that skill. Yeah. Well, yeah, I think. The confidence, right? The confidence. When you reach that strata of wealth though then you have other people who have so much just throw away money that if you're like if you're smarter than another rich guy they're like this guy's smart yeah maybe i will kick him a million dollars right
Starting point is 01:05:13 and then because their exit panic strategy is a dog so i mean it's it's unbelievable right i'm really jealous of how they got them like you know what I mean? It's like people's Trojan horse. They go in and they're like, they've got nothing, but they're like, I got a toilet. I mean, but think about the Fyre Festival documentaries that we've seen recently. Think about these guys. There's like a cheat code to capitalism. People on the right have been saying forever that, well, the market is the best way
Starting point is 01:05:48 to decide everything. And it's like, no, you can just fucking cheat. You can just lie to people and get all the money. And live in South Dakota and have a Russian agent as your girlfriend. Or you're just Donald Trump. But, you know, the thing
Starting point is 01:06:04 that I'm actually worried about in all of this is the three-picture deal Bruce Willis signed with MoviePass in December of 2018. I don't think Bruce Willis is well, guys. I think Bruce Willis is like... Something going on? I think so, yeah. What do you mean? Well, he was sober for like 25 years and now he's drinking again and he just seems weird. Is he drinking again?
Starting point is 01:06:22 Yeah. He seems like out of it in interviews. And then he signed this three-picture deal with MoviePass, which- First one being Moonlighting 2, Electric Boogaloo. Yes. Which is going to be good. So, I mean, we're excited about that one. I think MoviePass is nailing it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Yeah. Three-picture deal, though. Right. So you think that was- I mean, yeah. He's selling his- Bedford Estate was just put on the market for $13 million. That guy's been in so many good movies.
Starting point is 01:06:47 For a bar tab in the greater Brentwood area. Yeah, for a movie pass. Yeah, I mean, I think this is also a good lesson that we're learning is if it seems too good to be true from a monetary standpoint. It's movie pass. That's their new slogan. They've rewritten that maxim. Right. If it's too good to be true, you're attorney general.
Starting point is 01:07:08 Right. But it's what we've talked about with Facebook and Google. They're not giving you these amazing services for free. They're giving them to you and selling your information. They're getting the good end of the stick. Right. If the word oligarch is in your contract. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:29 Read it carefully. Sign terms of service. Stay in touch with your friends. Right. And donate to Russian oligarchs. There you go. Let's defry the U.S. together. Wait, look at people's baby pictures you don't care about.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Oh, you have a new baby? Russians right outside your window, dick tape. That is Trump's go-to move. Oh, that sniff? I wonder if on the teleprompter it says, inhale vigorously through nostrils. Yeah, get that drip going, Poppy. The meme, someone sent me a meme of,
Starting point is 01:08:05 I'm sure you guys have seen it, of the Nancy Pelosi, the clap. The clap. Right behind Maroon 5 dude. Have you seen that one?
Starting point is 01:08:15 It was, it was seriously like the funniest thing ever. So he's shirtless and then she's right behind him doing the clap. Nice. Impressive.
Starting point is 01:08:25 It was, I don't know what millennial is in the basement doing those memes, but they're amazing. It's people hard at work, you know. Yeah, exactly. And then getting it stolen by Fuck Jerry. Fuck Jerry. And then Fuck Jerry is stealing it and giving it to him. And there's a loop.
Starting point is 01:08:38 There we go. There it is. The circle of life. Aaron, it's been a pleasure having you, as always. You guys are so fun and easy to talk to, and all my favorite yummy political random topics. Where can people
Starting point is 01:08:49 find you, follow you, watch you? Well, should we tell them now that I'm the third host? Yeah. I'm kidding. ErinKFoley.com, that's got all tour dates and information and if you love sports, I do a sports podcast called Sports Without Balls.
Starting point is 01:09:07 And we do a lot of fun sports and a lot of female sports because only two outlets cover them. Me and ESPNW. So yeah, it's just, that's where I'm at. Those are my two go-to's. Sports and comedy. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Well, I did
Starting point is 01:09:29 watch that. I just love that she has initials now. She goes by AOC and she just got started. But that Smackdown, I retweeted that like five times. That five-minute wordplay, I was like, oh my god, that's awesome. I retweeted that like 17 times.
Starting point is 01:09:45 She's the best. It's from Ryan Knight at Proud Resister. I just thought that was like, you know, she gets so much shit. You know what I mean? But she. Yeah, but from the maniacs. She did handle that moment. I thought it was just fun.
Starting point is 01:09:58 Miles, where can people find you? You can find me on Instagram. Yeah. And Twitter. Sure. At Miles of Gray. G-R-A-Y. Yeah. And Twitter. Sure. At Miles of Gray. G-R-A-Y. Not E-Y.
Starting point is 01:10:08 So don't make a fool of yourself. A couple of tweets that I like. All from Reductress because the masters of one line tweet headlines. This is just something I hear a lot from parents. It just has a picture of a dad just kind of thinking. It says, Dad desperately trying to remember what this building was before restaurant. And another one says, Job search officially called off after request for cover letter. I can't tell you when I was out of college trying to apply for those first jobs,
Starting point is 01:10:44 and I was like, I was like cover letter. I'm like, you want me to write some shit about specifically this job? Tell us a little bit about yourself. Go fuck yourself. Nah, I'm good. Kazinkos, here I come. Special skills, not writing cover letters. A tweet I've been enjoying was from Gretchen Preheim, P-R-E-H-E-I-M.
Starting point is 01:11:05 She just put side by side Marshall Applewhite and Betsy Devos. Or Devos? Devos? Depends on how you say it. I say Devo. Devo. Betsy Devo. Bezos.
Starting point is 01:11:17 Yeah. It's Betsy Bezos. Bell Biv Devo. We figured out they were a lookalike on our post State of the Union episode. And she made it real for us, and they do look identical. So she is him wearing a wig. And you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.
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