The Daily Zeitgeist - Mr Beast Is Just Jigsaw Now? Rapture = NEXT Week (For SURE) 10.01.25

Episode Date: October 1, 2025

In episode 1940, Jack and Miles are joined by hosts of Reading Glasses & Reading Smut, Mallory O'Meara & Brea Grant, to discuss…Ooops! Yall Thought The Rapture Was LAST Week? Naw... It&...rsquo;s Actually NEXT Week! Dynamic Pricing Doesn’t Just Cost The Rich, Jigsaw--Uh... Mr. Beast Defends Trapping Man In Burning Building and more! Ooops! Yall Thought The Rapture Was LAST Week? Naw... It’s Actually NEXT Week! Dynamic Pricing Doesn’t Just Cost The Rich Jigsaw--Uh... Mr. Beast Defends Trapping Man In Burning Building LISTEN: Your Soul & Mine by BADBADNOTGOODSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 well what kind of mug you got there was that what's that shape what's that cat oh nice that that cute or what kind of give an owl i thought it was owl for a second kind of does look like an owl i had like a weird horror one and i actually changed it to this one in case somebody saw it wait what's the weird of horror it said it said not blood on it which i thought was a little too weird well now i did immediately assume that you're drinking blood out of that yeah yeah yeah yeah Mallory, any weird cups on your own? I mean, I have my standard white women water bottle over here. We got to stick together.
Starting point is 00:00:39 We got to stick together. WWB. I'm not leaving my white sister's behind. We appreciate it. We need this all right. You have to stay hydrated. That's the secret, you know? The only thing that's going to get us through, folks, is.
Starting point is 00:00:52 I was like the one thing that I didn't realize as just like as a dude, how much it helps your skin to drink enough water. Yeah, we've been on that shit for a long time. Welcome. Yeah. No, I mean, like, I've been doing everything the last few years, but I just remember, like, a younger male co-worker at like a job, like my previous job was like, like, have you tried drinking more water? Have you tried water?
Starting point is 00:01:14 Like, you feel like, because you have, like, you have great skin. Like, you have no wrinkles and stuff, but like, you tried to drink. You could use. And I was like, I noticed that when you smile, the rest of your face, like, takes a while to unsmile. Because I think you might be dehydrated, man. Yeah. Yeah, do you have facial edema or something?
Starting point is 00:01:31 Your skin moves like a second after the red. Your facial muscles. This is an I-Heart podcast. The murder of an 18-year-old girl in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved for years. Until a local housewife, a journalist, and a head. handful of girls came forward with a story. America, y'all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Listen to Graves County on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season, add free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Hi there, this is Josh Clark from the Stuff You Should Know podcast. If you've been thinking, man alive, I could go for some good true crime podcast episodes, then if we got good news for you, stuff you should know just released a playlist of 12 of our best true crime episodes of all time. There's a shootout in broad daylight, people using axes in really terrible ways, disappearances, legendary heists, the whole nine yards.
Starting point is 00:02:51 So check out the Stuff You Should Know true crime playlist on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jonathan Goldstein, and on the new season of heavyweight... And so I pointed the gun at him and said, this isn't a joke. A man who robbed a bank when he was 14 years old. And a centenarian rediscovers a love lost 80 years ago. How can a 101-year-old woman fall in love again? Listen to heavyweight on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of the On Purpose podcast.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Recently, I had a conversation with the one and only, Madonna. When I was broke and I had no friends, nowhere to live, I was held up at gunpoint, I was robbed. Always horrendous things happened to me. I had such an unhappy childhood that whatever happened to me in New York is better than what my life was, so I'm not going back. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 408, episode three of Dirt Daily Zeitgeist. This production of iHeartRadio is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's share consciousness. And it is Wednesday, October 1st, 2025.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Damn, spooky season. Half begun. There's so, man, okay, here we go. It's October 1st means it's National Jiffy Mix Day, National Walk to School Day, National Pumpkin Seed Day, National Coffee with a Copp. Nope. National Fire Pup Day. Yes, we fuck with Dalmatians and firefighters. National Pumpkin Spice Day.
Starting point is 00:04:34 National Green City Day. Random Acts of Poetry Day. National Black Dog Day. Shout on my dog. A black dog. National Hair Day. National homemade cookies day. Damn.
Starting point is 00:04:42 They're getting it in. Yeah, they tried to sneak in the coffee with a cop thing. I'm like, hmm. Almost. Almost. What is it? Are they going to buy you a coffee? You're going to buy a cop coffee?
Starting point is 00:04:53 Buy your local police officer or coffee. Get the fuck out of here. I'm already paying for your stupid ass F-2. What the fuck you're talking about? You don't want to make the guys who walk around with guns who are already terrified all the time a little bit more jittery? Hey, man! A copy! Okay, my bad, my bad, my bad.
Starting point is 00:05:12 He doesn't even live here. My name is Jack O'Brien, AKA Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. It's Miles Gray, A.K. I'm just an average kid with an average life. I work at Laser Tag. And then I get high. All I want to do is be alone when I clean the pizza dome. But why do I always feel like I'm in the twilight zone and I always feel like Dr. Drey's watching me.
Starting point is 00:05:43 And it's giving me anxiety. All right. Shout out to Johnny Davis out there. Yes, I told the anecdote about when I worked at the Lasertag birthday place and Dr. Drey just shut the door. I was named him in the room watching me clean up. He said nothing. Wait, he shut the door?
Starting point is 00:05:59 He fucking shut. Bro, this shit was, it was creepy, bro. That's so weird. He came in the room. I was probably 18, 17 at the time. Came in this party room, closed the door. He was a guest at this party. He sat down and watched me clean up all the garbage.
Starting point is 00:06:14 He didn't say anything. And then I walked the fuck up out of there. Like the way you moved, man. No, he didn't even say shit, bro. He didn't say shit until I said to get the subtext of what. I don't know. I couldn't help but notice you cleaning up the trash. There's a few different roads.
Starting point is 00:06:27 All of them are fucked up. There's no phone. Unless, what are you, a fucking scout for people who work at laser tag birthday places? And you're like, hey, man, I want to sign you. I like the energy you're giving in there when you clean up those plates. Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third and fourth seats by the host of the very popular book podcasts, reading glasses, and the new book show, Reading Smut. Hey. From the Maximum Phone Network, please welcome to this show.
Starting point is 00:06:55 So, Mallory Omera and Brea Grant. Belgrade! I can tell you're a fellow Irish person because you're the only person who's pronounced my last name correctly. Omera? Yeah. Everyone says O'Meara. And I'm like, oh, wow. You definitely have spices in your food if you can't pronounce my last name.
Starting point is 00:07:15 I have not. I've never, I will eat food and say, oh, my God, what is that? And they'll be like salt. Yeah. Eat you salt? Okay. Wow. Someone studied abroad, huh? Amazing guess on your part that Jack O'Brien is Irish also.
Starting point is 00:07:34 You know your stuff. We really said your nickname is potato. Potatoes, O'Brien. Yeah, you didn't even with a slight Irish brogue. I did my finger on that guy. Did my brogue come out? Ah, shit. I try to cover it up, you know.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Potatoes O'Brien, a real dish. Delicious dish. A delicious dish, especially if you put this special salt on it. Oh, yeah. Good stuff. Good stuff. Potato, peppers, onions. Pretty basic.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Pretty basic. Pretty basic. Pretty basic. Pretty basic. It's about as far as we go flavor-wise. That's right. Yeah. Well, we're thrilled to have you.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Congratulations on the new podcast, reading smut. That's what it says on the tin. Yeah. Sorry, just to interject, Jack, the origin of it could potentially be from a place. called jacks yeah in in manhattan wow so i'm just saying jack o'brown anyway sorry don't dig too deep or you're going to find something you don't know yeah exactly yeah you're gonna yeah you're gonna powerful people are involved man you might want to leave that alone uh how has it been going from a straightforward reading podcast to uh i guess it's still pretty straightforward to read smut but
Starting point is 00:08:48 you think one would think uh a lot more talk about genitals in this section of the book world than what we're normally used to, but it's been a lot of fun. Yeah. Do you both like smut? Or is that kind of a thing where it's like, well, this is a whole other genre. We really didn't probably tap into. I think I'm like more of the noob to it. Like I'm, I just, we started reading it like at, to our other show reading glasses. We don't really do book clubs or anything, but we did a couple of like special book clubs with smut books and they were really popular. And we were like, oh, maybe we should just see if people want to be reading more of these and the more. we talked about the more that people wanted to hear about it. So we just decided to dedicate the genre's blowing up and Mallory can speak much more to it than I can. But it's sort of interesting to see why. Like why are so many, particularly women, but a lot of, I mean, you just said, you said, all fairly, you've read a smart book. Why are we picking up these books? I had to pick it up because this, the description was so absurd that I was like, this is a book.
Starting point is 00:09:54 This is an actual book someone wrote the words to. And last week, someone was talking about smut. The book is called Hallopine. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I think it's Holly Wilde is the author. Yeah, there's a lot of seasonal smut with, you know, Christmas smut, Halloween smut. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:11 With like a guy has like a rock candy penis in it. And I was like, this is, and I'm like, okay. I mean, like, this is different. So I'll give it up. I don't hate it. Yeah. I mean, the first book we ever did for the show was about a man who is actually a door and gets turned into a human man.
Starting point is 00:10:27 So it's a pretty popular thing. I mean, that's the fun thing about the genre is it doesn't take itself that seriously. A lot of corners of the literary world are very snooty. And the smut people are like, hey, you want to bang this gingerbread man? Let's go. Yeah, right. Exactly. Really silly, really fun.
Starting point is 00:10:44 And I think that's why people get into it so much is because it doesn't take itself seriously. There's no, it's very welcoming. Yeah. It's like, yeah, it's like the scribbling of like, rather than like painting. It's like, dude, do whatever the fuck you want. And it's actually very fun because there are no rules. And you get to be like, I don't know if the guy's dick has made a rock candy.
Starting point is 00:11:02 He's a fucking, he, gummy bears come out. What are you going to do? Why not? Did he do one where someone, is that real? Yeah, I can write. There's a few excerpts I was going to read. But anyway. Brea, didn't we do one where someone where frosting came out?
Starting point is 00:11:15 Yeah, yeah. It was a balloon animal. The balloon one. The balloon and wait. You fucking made an animal and frosting comes out. Yeah. Well, he's a, he's aware. balloon animal he sometimes is a man and sometimes he's a balloon animal but you have to be careful
Starting point is 00:11:30 nothing sharp around him sure is this a testament to like how bad men are that there always has to be like some they're like i'd fuck a door yeah i'd rather this be a like yeah warwolf door human than a yeah five thousand percent one one deep look into tinder and you're rushing towards the nearest door right if i'd see another guy holding a fish With an awkward hat on yet. Once you see enough fish photos, a guy with the rock candy penis looks pretty good. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:12:02 So it's just like people's desire for truly consequence-free sex that's like not tied to anything or any like, it's not going to remind you of the sex that you've had with people, right? It's like just get me into a fantasy world where I don't have to be tied down by experience or expectations or anything.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Yes. And the heroes are always very into the women. They're always, like, very feminist. They always have good jobs. Yeah. It's, uh, it's a magical fantasy land. Clean bedrooms. But I will also say they aren't all like magical men.
Starting point is 00:12:37 There are real men. There are real women. Like there are, we don't read just like the fantasy ones. Although that's obviously what's kind of popular right now. But yeah, there actually is like definitely a mad, a clean bedroom trend. Wow. Like, the author's like, and then like how is that, how would you usually encounter that description like in a Beautiful sheets, gorgeous curtains, very clean.
Starting point is 00:12:57 You know, you date enough guys who have never washed their towels and don't have DeVay covers or bed frames. And reading these books about these thousand-year-old fairies who have like 2,000 thread count sheets. Yeah. Pretty nice. You don't have to go to Jordan Peterson to have somebody imply that you should clean your bedroom. You can just read about people, fucking balloon animals. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:13:21 You'll get the same message. Yes. That's wild. I mean, I one time, I did have jeans I used as a towel. Yep, that sounds very. Yeah, yeah. And I'm sorry. In college, we've moved on.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Yeah, you've moved on. You've evolved. You have, I'm sure you have real towels now that get washed. I do. I have one. I have one. I have a dish towel that I've been using for about a week next to my computer. And you'd carry it around on your shoulder like a chef.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Miles this morning when we were recording and I used it to wipe my mouth. thinks so highly of me. He was like, is that a sock? Did they have pulled it off of your foot? Valid question, though. It gave sock. He was giving sock. I can't even imagine someone pulling a sock off their foot to wipe their mouth.
Starting point is 00:14:06 And you haven't dated enough men. That's why. I've seen jeans used as towels, man. A sock isn't that bad. Can't think of a worse article of clothing to use as a towel. I can and I've seen it. A sweater? underwear cable knit sweater oh my god yeah yeah yeah i mean it's rough out there folks
Starting point is 00:14:29 yeah wool isn't absorbent at all yeah just wipe your hands on i don't care yeah all right well we're thrilled to have you we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first a couple of things we're talking about we have an update on the rapture the great disappointment that happened last week give him a second we got a new date yeah we got a new date and amazingly he's just like picked one like next week he's rescheduling the shit like somebody rescheduling a meeting they don't want to do it's just like yeah let's push it out a week did not learn the lesson at all a lot of time i know didn't learn the lesson at all but like do you mean that much time because if they took the first one seriously didn't they do all that prep work
Starting point is 00:15:10 of selling their shit and leaving biblical note cards behind and all the other shit i saw in rapture talk people to care for their pets right yeah yeah maybe he did learn the lesson from the first one. Anyways, we'll talk about that. We'll talk about dynamic pricing, an exciting new innovation in capitalism, where they can change the price based on, you know, where you are, what they know about you. It turns out, and this is going to surprise everyone, that this new tool of capitalism is just going to be used in a predatory way that disadvantages the poor. I'm so surprised. I'm fucking, my jaw is on the floor. I call it a consumer stress test, is how I talk about it in the courtroom. It is while trying to like research this subject and you have to get
Starting point is 00:15:54 through like eight studies by libertarian think tanks being like, this is fucking sick. Yeah. It's everybody to pay the exact right amount. We'll talk about the new contest from Jigsaw, sorry, Mr. Beast, where you have to escape a burning building. The video is literally called, would you risk dying for $500,000? It's so fun to be alive, guys. It's just so cool to be alive in 2025. Yeah. All of that, plenty more.
Starting point is 00:16:25 But first, Mallory, Rhea, we do like to ask our guests. What is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Well, almost all of my Google search is right now are how much protein is in insert food here. I am a meathead, so I'm a powerlifter and I eat a ton of protein. every day. So the last thing I looked up was how much protein is in the sushi burrito I had for dinner last night? Turns out quite a bit. Pretty sick. And Google knew exactly which sushi burrito you had? You just had to rent. How much is in the sushi burrito I had? And they were like, oh, what's up, Mallory? Yeah, I kicked the low end and just assume it's kind of around there,
Starting point is 00:17:02 which was like 48 grams, pretty great. What do you got to do, like, your weight in grams of protein, like at a minimum? What's like your weight times either 0.5 or 0.8, and that's how many grams you need a day. Oh, okay. For gains. For gains. I mean, if we're trying to make gains here. Yeah, for sick gains, bro.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Chris Gaines. Chris Gaines, my favorite artist. I still am trying to figure out what happened to him. I'm bad at Google, I shouldn't say. But I haven't been able to find out when his next album's coming out. Mallory, what was your road to powerlifting? Was that just like you were doing like sports or is something new? I've been doing it for quite a lot.
Starting point is 00:17:44 a few years now. I just saw someone doing it at the gym one day and it looked sick and I wanted to do it and I just got really into it. Hell yeah. I just like a story like that. You're like yeah, you know what? I'm having that. Yeah, I saw a girl squatting and it looked really cool and I said I want to
Starting point is 00:18:00 do that. Yeah. How about you Brea? What's something from your search history? I have COVID right now. But we're all in different spots. It's okay. I can say that. I almost didn't say it. But then I was like, is that weird? Like, we're not going to get it. It is weird.
Starting point is 00:18:14 I didn't want to say it. But we all get sick. And I, my friend, I was talking to my friend on the phone, she was like, you should do an IV at home? Do you know about this? They'll bring like a home IV and they'll do like wellness ones. This may be not real science. I will certainly admit that I don't know if it will help,
Starting point is 00:18:33 but I was Googling that because I'm going to have someone come today and do a little IV. A vitamin. Yeah. Do you have y'all done this? Is this a thing? I feel like celebrities do. I thought this was for people with hang. That is what I know it from.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Yeah, I know, yeah, I know people who like, like there's a nurse in a friend group who'll be like, I've got the, I've got the bag. So tomorrow morning, like we'll hook everybody up. And you're like, Jesus, that's a lot of planning to just poison yourself. Have you heard of people doing it when they're sick, though? Like, that seems like, yeah, the hospital. They're very popular at the hospital. Yeah, I see them there mostly with people who aren't doing too well. I don't know if you've seen that film.
Starting point is 00:19:11 I was texting with the guy and he was like, well, I can come earlier and I was like, well, I'm doing like a podcast. So I don't, I think that would be weird. And he's like, I can do it while you're doing the podcast. I was like, there's video. That would be if I was just over here. I mean, but it would be kind of cool. Maybe I'll feel like really pumped though. Are you pretty like, I'm guessing pretty zapped from it if you're like Googling, hey, can someone come to my house and plug me? Yeah, I am today. I was feeling okay. And then today I'm in yesterday. I started feeling worse. And I don't know. When my friends have all these like, people have weird. ideas where they're like, COVID, this is how you get rid of it. And I'm like, maybe it's just an illness and it'll just run its course. And then I, if I drink enough water and like take my vitamins, but I just decided to do it because I have a haunted house. I want to go to this weekend. So I'm trying to get there. Incredible. That's actually where it's at. It's not that
Starting point is 00:19:59 you're even like, like, willing to entertain the quasi science of it. You're just like, I, if anything guarantees I'm going to this haunted house. I will do it. I'm going to try it. I'm going to try it. I do feel like the things that they do in hospitals, like people hospitals especially, you know? As opposed to like Ivermectin was another one of the big things, which was I think a horse deworming. Yeah, that I like that you've gone with a treatment that at least using my eyes. I can be like, well, they seem to think it's good in hospitals.
Starting point is 00:20:33 I'll check back in with you. I'll let you know. Yeah, yeah. I'm not, listen, I'm not totally a believer. but I am willing to try anything to get to go to the haunted house. What's the haunted house? Well, I go to a lot of haunted houses, but this weekend I'm going to Nauts. Oh, Natsary.
Starting point is 00:20:47 That's my favorite one. And I, yeah, and I don't have tickets. Yeah, Halloween Horror Nights is really falling off. Can they hook you up to an Ivy while you're at the haunted house? That is the, that is the scare. That's the trying, hoping no one pulls an I view. Yeah, they'll just think you're one of the cast. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Or you tell this character is, you're like, I'm hooked up to an Ivy. Don't you pop out on me? What is something you guys think is underrated? Thick boys on romance novel covers. Thick boys on romance. Can you reference one I can look up right now to kind of get in? Well, there's been a big, which is great, a big push for potty positivity in the romance world. So you've been seeing a lot of hot, sexy, thick ladies on romance novel covers.
Starting point is 00:21:30 But all the guys, all the chests they're still leaning on are still very. Massimo. Yeah, just normal, like very stereotypical. the Fabio kind of guys. I want some thick boys. Yeah. And hairless. They tend to be a little bit hairless.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Yeah. And I want a hairy thick man on a romance novel cover. That's what I want. Okay. Wait, nobody's got the hairy thick boy cover at all? There's some, but it's for gay romance.
Starting point is 00:21:57 So there's like two thick, gay guys, but I want, they can't have all the thick boys. That's what I want. So that's, I think it's really underrated. And it's something that we've been noticing.
Starting point is 00:22:07 I'm like, I see, I got, I got the thick girls, but no thick boys. I'm looking for a thick hat male. Yes, please. Yeah, here we go. Okay. Bria. How about you, Bria?
Starting point is 00:22:17 Mallory is really on brand and I am not. I was, you know, you know what's underrated? Ivees. You guys find out later, I work for drip ivy. I find that people, I meet so many people in Ireland who are like, I hate small tech. I just want to get into the deep stuff, but I'm like, no. Talk to me about the weather.
Starting point is 00:22:36 I want to, I love. I love talking about the weather. I love talking about the smallest, minute things. And at the dog park, that's pretty much I go to the dog park every day. And we talk a lot about just the smallest stuff. Like, I don't want to talk with a stranger about deep stuff or anything. I didn't want to talk about politics. Yeah, no, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Like, I actually think the weather is really interesting. We all experience it together. Like, we're all, like, we all have to make decisions based on the weather. We all, like, in L.A., you know, it doesn't change that often. when it does, it's like really exciting. Like, I am, I think that people act like that talking about the weather is like, that's boring. It's like the, you know, typical boring thing. No, I'm here to talk to people about the weather.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Like, I want to talk about the boring stuff. Isn't the challenge, though, keeping a conversation about the weather alive for more than... You've never met me. I can keep a conversation about the weather alive. All right. Let's try, break. All day. This is, this is right.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Here we go. Here we go. I got one. You, uh, you see that cloud yesterday? Oh, my God. Wild. Oh, my God. The yes ending of that was crazy to me.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Oh, my God, yes. We had a cloud in the skies of Los Angeles. It was pretty crazy. Yeah, and today, zero clouds. When do you think it's going to, when's it going to get cold? When is it going to get cold? I'm ready to wear a hoodie. I am, I have hats that I haven't worn this year.
Starting point is 00:23:58 It seems like last year this time it was already cold. You know what I do around this time? I start buying a lot of winter clothing because it's on sale. For a winter that usually doesn't. doesn't come. That's really smart. Or you can buy this stuff that's going on sale. Oh, sorry, my dog is mauling that chihuahua.
Starting point is 00:24:14 See, we can talk about that forever. But yeah, the deep stuff is where you get into trouble. I agree with that. The weather is a classic for a reason. Like, there used to be rules of decorum that were, like, you don't talk about politics and religion at, like, dinner. Money. Just with, like, people who you don't have to talk about that with. And instead, you talk about the.
Starting point is 00:24:36 weather and because everyone has to have a hot take now everyone's like fuck talking about the weather but it's a classic for a reason yeah bring back bring it back bring back to quorum bring back shame like a little bit more shame about what you're willing to talk about in public that's right um with that's this is very funny to talk to to come from two smut hosts who'd well you're listening to the show you know what you're getting yeah yeah exactly because i guess the the question you'd hate to hear bria so me like kind of books you've been reading later. Oh, my God. Yeah, that is. Oh, I'm like, uh, this balloon animal
Starting point is 00:25:09 comes cream, I think. Frosting. Frosting. Sorry. My bad. I'm not weird. Yeah, that's like, if people ask us about the news, I mean, I personally, like, my heart, I'm just like, I don't want to talk about it. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:25:25 We know we have a news podcast. They, and like, think that I'm going to want to talk about the news. I've been lying to my neighbors. Hey, want to do your job for free with me right now. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I just lie.
Starting point is 00:25:39 It gets you, in meeting strangers and saying you work, even if you say you work on podcasts. Yeah. Oh, which ones, man. You like Roe? You like Roehani?
Starting point is 00:25:49 You like Joe? Oh my God. No, never mind. I'm a balloon artist. Well, the worst is when, is not just when they want to talk about a stupid podcast.
Starting point is 00:25:58 It's when they want to pitch you their podcast idea. That's never going to happen. And it's like, me and my guy friends, they're so funny. And, you know, I think we're just going to, we're just going to record ourselves hanging out. Great. You should.
Starting point is 00:26:10 It's very easy to get that thing up. There's no shows that are like that. It's extremely innovative. No barrier to entry for guys talking about shit. Yeah. And there aren't any podcasts like that. So you're going to be first to market. Let's take a quick break.
Starting point is 00:26:24 We'll come back. We'll talk about what you guys think is overrated and get into the news. All I know is what I've been told, and that's a half-truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved, until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. I'm telling you, we know Quincy Kilder, we know. A story that law enforcement used to convict six people. and that got the citizen investigator on national TV.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran. My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, producer, and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find. I did not know her and I did not kill her, or rape or burn, or any of that other stuff that y'all said. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her.
Starting point is 00:27:35 They made me say that I pour gas on her. From Lava for Good, this is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County in the Bone Valley feed on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:28:05 wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season at free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Hi there, this is Josh Clark from the Stuff You Should Know podcast. If you've been thinking, man alive, I could go for some good true crime podcast episodes,
Starting point is 00:28:28 then have we got good news for you. Stuff You Should Know just released a playlist of 12 of our best true crime episodes of all time. There's a shootout in broad daylight, people using axes in really terrible ways, disappearances, legendary heists, the whole nine yards. So check out the stuff you should know true crime playlist. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jonathan Goldstein, and on the new season of heavyweight, I help a centenarian mend a broken heart.
Starting point is 00:28:56 How can a 101-year-old woman fall in love again? And I help a man atone for an armed robbery he committed at 14 years old. And so I pointed the gun at him and said this isn't a joke. And he got down. And I remember feeling kind of a surge of like, okay, this is power. Plus, my old friend Gregor and his brother try to solve my problems through hypnotism. We could give you a whole brand new thing where you're like super charming all the time. Being more able to look people in the eye.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Not always hide behind a microphone. Listen to Heavyweight on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of the on-purpose podcast. Recently, I had a conversation with the one and only Madonna. When I was broke and I had no friends, nowhere to live, I was held up at gunpoint, I was robbed. All these horrendous things happened to me. I had such an unhappy childhood that whatever happened to me, in New York. It's better than what my life was, so I'm not going back.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And we're back. We're back. And we do like to ask our guests, what is something you think is overrated? Brea, you want to kick us off? I think it's the COVID brain, but I was like, I don't even have anything. You know what? You know how I got COVID is because I was, like, staying out too late and hanging out with people. And I'm in my 40s. Like, maybe that's overrated. Like, maybe staying out too late. Seeing people.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Seeing people is fine. But, like, nothing good happens when you're 40 after a certain time. What time are we talking? How late we're talking? Midnight. Midnight? Okay. That's your, that's ambitious.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Nothing good happens if you're over 40. Okay. Just go to bed. Go to bed. Go to bed. You're tired than a stay. I'm still. I'm willing to think, I'm still in the phase where I was like, when you start doing afters, that's when you get, when you do the afters.
Starting point is 00:31:10 So you're like 2 p, 2 a.m. But I also, last time I was up until 2, I can't even fucking remember. I can't. Well, that's, yeah, I was a lot for you to say that too. I was doing, I was out till 2-ish for like a, I was at like a festival. Things were happening and I was out too late. And that's when I got sick, I think, is being out too late. Nothing good.
Starting point is 00:31:28 You're not having productive conversations with people. People are just like screaming and spitting on you. I'm not talking about the weather. You're not talking about the weather. Or you are, but you're high on cocaine. I know, man. It's been so fucking hot, dude. It's like, I thought it controls the weather, man.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Being on Coke and talking about the weather is such a funny concept. That's really underrated. New podcast. Coked out weather forecasts. Come on in. I like midnight. I like the Cinderella rule. Just get home by midnight.
Starting point is 00:31:59 You're going to be all right. You won't be like dying the next day. Yeah, that's true. I like it. Mallory, what's something you think is overrated? Love triangles. I'm so sick of them. It's a big thing in the smut world and like the romance world.
Starting point is 00:32:14 It's always like staying on brand. God, I'm glad she's here. I got you. I got you. Because there's this big thing in the smut world where it's always there's two men. One is blonde and one has dark hair. And the one that is blonde seems to be nice at first, but it's really evil. And the one that has dark hair seems evil at first, but is actually good.
Starting point is 00:32:32 and also fucks like a bullet train. And then for a big, big chunk of the book, she's always like, I don't know what to do between golden boy and dark hair boy. And it's so irritated to me. I'm so sick of the love triangle. Just fucking pick one. Yeah, yeah. Get on with the plot.
Starting point is 00:32:49 It's, I mean, that whole summer I turned pretty was just such a focal point was like the love triangle recently. Yeah. What's your, I can just tell it from your exasperate. It's like, oh, fuck. Come on, y'all. Because I like plot. And trying to choose between two men is not a good story to me.
Starting point is 00:33:05 That is not a fun plot. Right, right, right. It's which, especially which brother, the older one or the younger one? Oh, my God. Yeah, I'd rather lay in the road. I'd rather fucking door, to be honest. There's a plot. That was the movie, The Program, I think.
Starting point is 00:33:19 They did that in. But in the program, did the road on a full moon come alive and fuck you? No. See, there you go. I'd be more, I'm like, oh, the tarmac comes alive. Okay. His name is Mac. Like Mac for short
Starting point is 00:33:33 They call me Mac for short And then lays down on the road And turns out of the road It's just an idea Just spitball in there All right Well, let's move on to the news And I use the word news
Starting point is 00:33:45 Very loosely So last week everybody was obsessed With the rapture And you know When it didn't come Some people were disappointed Some people were confused I was
Starting point is 00:34:00 I was fucking shocked. I was really bummed out. I was hoping that there would be a lot less annoying people on this earth and they're still here. Yeah, I thought I was like, oh, finally, it's like when everyone leaves L.A. for Coachella.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Yeah. And you're like, oh, good. Here we are. Now the city is better. Thank you. I thought there'd be more sales, but there hasn't been really anything. Rapture sale? Yeah. If the corporations were in on it, I'm like, maybe God does exist.
Starting point is 00:34:30 if they're still trying to get their profits in to the very last minute, maybe. But yeah, that scammer-ass pastor from South Africa that predicted that the rapture is going to go down. Last week has now spoken for the first time since that wet fart of a prediction. And he is now saying, it's actually, it's actually to be next week, it turns out.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Oh, nice. So he went on YouTube, like any pastor who predicts the future does, he go on a YouTube live stream to speak. And he basically said, He said something to the effect is like, oh, man, see, the thing is, I was following the starting point. Here's it, oh, dude, I was following the Gregorian calendar. It's actually the Julian calendar. I make that mistake all the time.
Starting point is 00:35:13 I'm always late to meetings. So that means, let's carry the one. I mean, October 7th or 8th. Well, it depends on what part of the world you're in, right? If you're in, like, Australia, you know, like it's a day ahead. Just a little flexibility there. But, yeah, he said, quote, the 7th and the 8th of October is the real feasts of the trumpets. I'm a billion percent sure.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Wow. That is so certain. He goes on to claim that he questioned God on why the event did not take place this week. He said to me, days. First of all, I don't think you could, you can talk spicy to God like that. Really? Like, hey, what the fuck was up? Brought that his last week.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Really taking him to task. Yeah. I'm sure God was like, shut the fuck up, homie. It will be. And God said, quote, it's days from now, I will rapture my church. Well, if you could talk to God, why didn't he just do that to start? Thank you. This is what always annoys me about people who say they talk to God, because you're like, okay, I'm pretty sure.
Starting point is 00:36:12 I went to Lutheran school. I was taught God is infallible. Like he says God doesn't fuck up. Okay, y'all fuck up. Now, if he's talking to God and he gave you the wrong date, you can go for like a make good to start to be like, hey, can you give me, like, the real date here? Because that's what I'm like, so that's what I guess my question is, who got it fucked up? Did God get it fucked up?
Starting point is 00:36:35 Did you get it fucked up? Did you get it fucked up? And if you're getting, if you're getting it fucked up, why are we listening to you? Is God like a fuckboy who like speaks in vague like terms, you know? That's just like, yeah, it's just like, you know, it's happening and like gives you vague clues that you then have to like kind of piece together on your end. It's like an escape room. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Is it like the thing where they're going to... But you have to escape the earth. That's what you're trying to do. Are they going to fly into the sky type rapture? Or is it they're going to blink out like a night of the comments? That's what I want to know. I want to know. It depends on which TikTok or you talk to or whose content you look at.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Because there is... Hold on. Let me pull this up because Brian, the editor, sent me one of these videos last week of a... Like, this guy showing us how the rapture is going to work. And it's so janky. Hold on. Let me pull this up because we should actually just watch this because it's really funny. I definitely have my preferences. Like, obviously, I think the one that's popular right now is Obi-1 Canobi just like pile of clothes. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:37:43 Maybe it's like a flight. Like there's economy rapture where you get sucked out of your clothes. There's business rapture where you get lifted up with all your clothes on. So the really fun one is if you just get lifted like slowly. because then you get to flex on everybody. You get to like look at everybody in the eye as you were being chosen. I mean, it would be so fun. But why would people not just fall down and be dead? Like, isn't it their souls?
Starting point is 00:38:11 So wouldn't it just be like their bodies, their human bodies are left behind? Because where's the showmanship? Okay, yeah. But I do think it would be funny if like, you know, God wasn't working when we had like things like fans. and, like, ceilings, if people just, like, get stuck, like, a balloon, like, at the top. Like, Willy Wonka.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Yeah, Willy Wonka style. Yeah, yeah. And if you burp, you do actually, like, get it. He's like, I was really counting on this, like, sort of fizzy lifting drink effect. And now everybody, like, the people who burped just, like, kind of got stuck in between. Yeah. They're just floating around in the sky, like, uh, balloons that somebody let go on their birthday. They keep accidentally hitting, like, an Amazon delivery.
Starting point is 00:38:55 He said hit by a drone. Oh, no, where is it? There's it, oh, God. There's this one creator who puts up so many fucking videos about the rapture. I saw one where like a couple was pushing their toddler on a swing, and then the toddler disappears. It's like swings forward and then comes back, no toddler, but also no clothes. So they get raptured wearing what they're wearing.
Starting point is 00:39:24 So that's just whatever you're wearing. If you're over 18, they'll take your clothes off. For the kids, they leave the clothes off. That's good. Right, right, right, right. You know, that is smart. The video I try, this guy has a ton of, like, copyright music. But it's like this really janky, like, fucking Roblox style animations where it's just a bunch of people going into the sky.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Oh, they do do the sky one. Oh, yeah. They were flying up. It looked like, it's really fun. It looked like the, like, the nuclear apocalypse or just like a bunch of, you just see a bunch of lines going up in the air, like missiles. Just like straight up getting beamed up. Oh, yeah, 100%. But then St. Peter's there and is like, you're in, you're in, you're in,
Starting point is 00:40:03 where is your protective garments? No. Wait, so are they going up into space or what point in the sky are they going to like disappear? If it's not cloudy there, you're just like, where are you going? Are you hit like what part of this, are you getting out of Earth's orbit? Like, where is it end? It looks like you go to heaven. here let's go on bro don't scroll this is the rapture okay
Starting point is 00:40:28 okay okay boom bro don't scroll don't scroll don't scroll don't scroll trump it sound right trumpet sound check it out look it's crazy good uh-huh now this guy that's god i think maybe he just returns boom he's returns boom boom boom go on whoa gone gone wow yeah close the souls the dead boom this baby boom gone look at this baby boom gone look at this baby boom gone wow So this does add that nice little drama. Couples. Oh, that nun.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Vanish. But the nun? The church. Boom. Not everyone's going to be saved. This rules. Boom. Look at that, y'all.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Oh, look at that, yo. Dog. That server was there to just ask them how their meal was going. Now they're gone, dog. Yeah. Shouldn't have been a waiter, loser. Boom. Why do the servers always come right when you have a mouthful of food?
Starting point is 00:41:20 Am I right, ladies? Boom. It was wild. One of the examples was a child. talking to their parents and then the parents got raptured and the kid didn't
Starting point is 00:41:28 that's so bad for that kid. That's really sinning baby. Right, yeah. Shouldn't have been a bad little kid, asshole. Yeah. It's funny because like
Starting point is 00:41:38 the comments are like all some form of like, yes, praise the Lord, I will be protected when the day comes and other people are like, you haven't cited
Starting point is 00:41:46 a single Bible verse. What are you even fucking saying? Didn't you hear the part where he said, damn, look at that baby. Boom. Boom. That's my favorite gospel, the bro gospel.
Starting point is 00:41:57 That was pretty scientific. Yeah, the book of boom. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Boom. Look at that baby. Boom. Let's try this Costco cookie.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Boom. This is good. How many booms we're giving this? Boom. How long do you think it took him to make that video? That video felt like, it actually felt like an investment. Well, his output, the output is prolific. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:42:17 I don't think this guy's got a lot of other things going on. I'm going to be honest. This guy makes $40 million. a year, by the way. Yeah, he does. He does make $40 million. Yeah. Making yes. It's on nothing. This is a new type of influencer that I'm just becoming acquainted with after that one Mormon influencer who was at the Charlie Kirk assassination and like went live and was like, yo, I'm here.
Starting point is 00:42:40 And was like, follow, subscribe, like as he's dying behind him. Oh, my God. Like really wild shit. Like the, you know, faith-based religious influencers are, are. are real. They are here and they are bad at calling their shot. Do you think one's going to go live while being raptured? Do you think we're going to get a live
Starting point is 00:43:02 stream from as they go out into the sky? Just Obi-Wan Canobey Clothes out of here. I mean, he did present a pretty good fun dynamic option, right? Because it was both Obi-One-Kinobie Close and then also
Starting point is 00:43:20 Sol's shooting into the sky. I do prefer, I think, I do think Charlie in the chocolate factory slowly floating upward and like real, being like, whoa, whoa, you know, and like, hey guys, coming to you live from the clouds right now. Coming you live from like 20 feet up. It's just like slowly lifting up. So everybody gets to witness it. What if it takes like a wicked long time? Oh my God. Yeah, like fucking three hours. Do you have any idea how freezing it is? Yeah, you'll die of exposure and you're naked because aren't your clothes all gone too? Damn. We could just see so many people naked, though. That's like the benefit of staying.
Starting point is 00:43:57 A little pervert. You're going to be like, oh, oh, it's too late. I've already seen everything. I've already seen it all. All right. We did just want to talk about an exciting new development in capitalism, which is dynamic pricing. We've talked about it before.
Starting point is 00:44:14 It seems like corporations keep trying to do this, where they're like, you know how everybody loves surge pricing from Uber? What if that was everything, everywhere, all at once? What's the benign, or what was the optimistic version of this? It was like, if it's slow, then we'll lower prices to induce more spending. And if it's, and if it's too many people, then we're going to have to crank it up a little bit to help slow things down. Like, it was always meant to be like, this helps optimize operations. Yeah, it's just further optimization.
Starting point is 00:44:44 And that is why capitalism works so perfectly. Everything is perfectly optimized. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love to live in total recall. It's so awesome. Yes. And instead, I don't have my third breast. Not yet.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Yeah, not yet. I'm still drinking LA tap water, though, so I'm holding up. Any day now. As with every innovation in late-stage capitalism, it turns out dynamic pricing, which, like, I don't know. I guess part of me was like, okay, they'll raise prices on, like, rich people who can afford it and, you know, lower prices on the poor. the poor. Wow, you really thought that was going to happen. That's so adorable. And instead, it is frequently used to take advantage of people with less money and therefore fewer options. Basically, this study found that so it says when consumers can easily find
Starting point is 00:45:36 better deals elsewhere, they hold the power. However, AI tools are allowing sellers to become increasingly adept at uncovering how much flexibility their consumers have. This practice raises serious ethical concerns. Dynamic pricing allows companies to take advantage of customers who can't easily go elsewhere. Dollar stores have been doing this for a long time. Wow. So serving low-income communities. The way dollar stores do it is they just, once people start going there,
Starting point is 00:46:04 they just lower the quality, lower and lower and lower. We are probably months away from it being legal to shoot poor people. Sure. This really does not surprise me. This kind of are there in a weird way, depending. on who does this. Yeah, because they're tracking everything, right? So, like, we're, like, they know I've looked at this pair of pants like 15 times. And they're like, this bitch loves these pants. And so they're just going to be like, I'm going to, every time they have a
Starting point is 00:46:27 pair of pants like that, they're going to up the price if I'm looking. Like, it totally makes sense because they're tracking what we're buying. Or they, the they, but someone is tracking what we're buying and the websites we're going to. Well, it's an algorithm. It's probably like identifying a certain group of users and they're like, yeah, you can probably turn the heat up a little Have you looked at anyone else's, like, Instagram feed? It feels so foreign because for mine, it's like, oh, we know she loves lotions and, like, and really lazy clothes. So, like, that's, like, that's all mine is. So when I look at someone else's, I'm like, oh, like, you don't get a million lotion ads every, like, minute.
Starting point is 00:47:03 The fuck is this? What is this shit? Yeah, food ones. I get a lot of food ones, too, actually. Wait, what do you mean lazy clothes? You just talk about, like, some form of sweatpants. Like, soft clothes. Soft, soft clothes.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Thank you. You would probably be okay because it seems like you might be a comparison shopper who looks at different options whereas what they're taking advantage of people who just either like buy something quickly
Starting point is 00:47:29 or like have to take the bus to go shopping and like need something desperately. Like oh, you need to feed your children today? Well, double the price. A.k.A. captive consumers. A.k.a. a flexible consumer. We're just testing their
Starting point is 00:47:42 flexibility. Okay. So just generally it feels like as technology, I mean, this study, which was from a outlet that is associated with the University of Alberta, which like that's, or maybe Calgary, which it's like you need to look outside of the United States to find people who are not being funded by libertarian organizations or like corporate organizations. But they said, as technology improves, the gap between high and low income consumers. grows wider. And that just seems to be broadly the takeaway from this and everything that we've
Starting point is 00:48:19 been seeing in the past. Yeah, 10 years. Our findings show that companies that take advantage of consumer inflexibility are likely to prosper, often at the expense of those with the least power to choose. Yeah, we knew that already. Big done. Yeah. Their pieces of shit is what you should say. There's a new book out that I really, really like by one of my favorite authors, A New New Me by Helen Oyeemi, and part of the book is about that, about how because of algorithms, we all literally live in our own universes. We've shown different things. We pay different prices. We buy different things based off of our own specific algorithms. And it's fucking scary. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We were, we just had, you know, the etymology nerd on. And like, he was talking, like in a previous talk that he did was just talking about how the algorithms where people believe they have an identity, they don't realize. that they've been sorted algorithmically into an identity where it's like,
Starting point is 00:49:16 oh, yeah, me, I'm like, I like basketball, hip hop kind of thing. And they're like, they've created like a sub, a sub tab for your exact interests that were you thinking like, yeah, this is what I'm into. It's like, well, no, they're all nudging you towards all these things to just make it. Yeah, so you'll buy stuff. You're a psychological profile created by marketing people. No, I like Wu-Tang. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:40 I mean, it's, yeah, I like U-Tang before. Before the algorithms. See, that's why you got to read really weird books. You've got to keep guessing. Throw a long, yeah. You got to weave around. You got to make sure that they don't know what to sell you. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:53 Exactly. Like, I thought this guy was a straight, like, sports lover. And now he's really into balloon animals. Yeah. You got to never let them know your next move. Exactly. I mean, the fact that you guys have a successful book podcast does give me hope. It's like, you know, there are people.
Starting point is 00:50:10 I think it's like, you know, we're out here. We talk about the Democratic Party and like how they've reacted to Zeran's success and just, you know, there are, there is a hunger for these things that just aren't officially allowed to exist. It's just that there is this massive scaffolding of like all of these assumptions built in that are going to extract maximum profitability. And so that's all we can find in our, you know, capitalism approved information. distribution methods or of these like algorithms. They are beating us down though. Right now a study just got released
Starting point is 00:50:49 that it's only 16% of Americans are reading for pleasure at any given day, which is down pretty far. It's because everyone's so fucking stressed out. Everyone's stressed out. Everyone's like overworked. They don't have time to read because they're working
Starting point is 00:51:05 three jobs to afford their dynamic priced groceries. So less and less people are reading. So if you want to do a little active resistance, pick up a book. It is wild to even think because like even, you know, like the times I am able to like read for my own like leisure or pleasure. It's like feels wild that I'm like, I'm sitting down and it's quiet and I'm holding a book versus like, why aren't I doing something? Do I have the time to do this? Why aren't you making money?
Starting point is 00:51:33 Yeah, yeah, whatever. Like that all that shit seeps in. And yeah, it's so true how much that can really like affect things. But it wasn't the one thing It was like There wasn't as big of a drop With like women who read I think for pleasure
Starting point is 00:51:46 Yeah yeah yeah Because dudes us in a podcast now That's right Optimizing for their grind set Okay They don't have time to read My grind set in that My life will come to a grinding
Starting point is 00:51:57 To a halt as I die alone And women are out here Reading about fairy dicks Yeah We're all in our algorithms It takes many forms Yeah exactly It's like the Avengers
Starting point is 00:52:08 Like every they all We all have to come together. You know what I mean? The balloon animal frosting people and the fucking bros potentially unite. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about
Starting point is 00:52:18 something that people are consuming too much of, I would say. And that's Mr. Beast. We'll be right back. All I know is what I've been told. And that's a half-truth is a whole lie. For almost, A decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved,
Starting point is 00:52:47 until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. I'm telling you, we know Quincy Kilder, we know. A story that law enforcement used to convict six people, and that got the citizen investigator on national TV. Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife, help give justice to Jessica Curran. My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, producer, and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.
Starting point is 00:53:22 I did not know her and I did not kill her, or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y'all said. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her. From Lava for Good, this is Graves County. A show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Listen to Graves County in the Bone Valley feed on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad-free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Hi there, this is Josh Clark from the Stuff You Should Know podcast. If you've been thinking, man alive, I could go for some good true crime podcast episodes, then have we got good news for you. Stuff You Should Know just released a playlist of 12 of our best true crime episodes of all time. There's a shootout in broad daylight, people using axes in really terrible ways,
Starting point is 00:54:35 disappearances, legendary heists, the whole nine yards. So check out the stuff you should know True Crime playlist on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jonathan Goldstein, and on the new season of heavyweight,
Starting point is 00:54:50 I help a centenarian mend a broken heart. How can a 101-year-old woman fall in love again? And I help a man atone for an armed robbery he committed at 14 years old. And so I pointed the guy, at him and said, this isn't a joke.
Starting point is 00:55:11 And he got down, and I remember feeling kind of a surge of like, okay, this is power. Plus, my old friend Gregor and his brother try to solve my problems. Through hypnotism. We could give you a whole brand new thing where you're like super charming all the time.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Being more able to look to people in the eye. Not always hide behind a microphone. Listen to Heavyweight on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of the On Purpose podcast. Recently, I had a conversation with the one and only, Madonna. When I was broke and I had no friends, nowhere to live, I was held up at gunpoint, I was robbed. All these horrendous things happened to me.
Starting point is 00:55:56 I had such an unhappy childhood that whatever happened to me in New York is better than what my life was, so I'm not going back. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast. or wherever you get your podcast. And we're back. We're back. And Mr. Beast, I do want, like, Mr. Beast could be the name of some manner of, like, protagonist in a fantasy novel, you know? I would read that, I will say.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Yeah. Or it's like the, it's like the hot Antichrist. It's like, oh, that's Mr. Beast. Or it's just what Beast from Beauty and the Beast. Beast, like, demands that Bell calls him. That's Mr. Beast to you. They do love weird nicknames in Smut books, so that kind of checks out. Oh, like, the lover, like, that the lovers, like, call me job.
Starting point is 00:56:51 No, they always give the women little, like, names, like, little sparrow are, like, very... Little deer. Little crow. Usually little helpless animal. I get the desire for, like, can't a man just have a fucking towel and, like, that's written into the book? Is that another thing people are seeking is to have to be? called a little sparrow
Starting point is 00:57:09 I actually don't know because it is it is very I don't like it it's gross if a man called me little deer I'd break his fucking jaw the fuck
Starting point is 00:57:21 so I don't know it's just like a narrative thing to break it up a little bit I think it's a familiarity thing I think it's like I'm so familiar with you and know you so well that I have a nickname
Starting point is 00:57:32 that no one else has I think it's like there's there's so much like about yeah yes I think there's a lot of, because I think maybe a lot of people aren't getting intimacy in their primary relationships, they're finding it in these relationships
Starting point is 00:57:46 in the books. I don't know why they're not getting intimacy. Men are in such a good place right now. I feel it's so attractive. I mean, they're busy training for like how to talk to people and be a cool person by watching Mr. Beast.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Who I do feel like is in sort of a dom-sub relationship with the world. He's like, tying people up and, like, putting them in dangerous situations and being like, I might give you money if you don't die. He definitely is getting something out of this. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:18 Mr. Beast read 50 Shades of Gray and was like, what if I do this to the world? Yeah. Anyways, he's gotten a lot of shit for his fun new game, trapping a man inside a goddamn burning building. I love that one. I played that so much when I was a kid. It's a classic. Hey, that's not funny, man.
Starting point is 00:58:37 I know a guy in D.C. He had a really rough, rough go with fires. Oh, right. You know, my infant nearly died in a drug fire after mass shootings. Okay, sorry, I'm obligated to play that. That's from our favorite influencer, Benny Johnson, who made up something called drug, drug fires. After mass shootings, yeah. But Mr. Beast began his YouTube career with, like, doing kind of fake charity where he's like,
Starting point is 00:59:05 I'll just like, come up and straight up give you money. dog you want this yeah and then slowly like turned himself into something between yeah something between like the bad guys in squid game and jigsaw yeah so uh he defended himself claiming that there was ventilation for the smoke and a kill switch to cut off the fires because that's what a fire really needs is more ventilation yeah yeah yeah more air uh-huh his other quote i take safety more serious than you could ever imagine. Has anyone read anything about the making of the Beast game show on Amazon?
Starting point is 00:59:42 Because it didn't sound like, it sounded like safety wasn't even like tertiary concern. Didn't they like prevent a person, a diabetic person from like getting her meds? There was a, there were a ton of things like that also like being exposed to like the cold and like, I don't know, just sleep it off, man.
Starting point is 00:59:58 What I don't fucking do? And again, the name of the video, would you risk dying for $500,000? So That's just YouTube It kind of has something like built into it Again this is this is like the running man Right
Starting point is 01:00:13 Yeah yeah yeah Yeah it's very yeah but like less entertaining I would say Yeah, dystopian And this is like you talk to kids And like Mr. Beast is the most famous person That they can conceive of Yeah he's like the president of people
Starting point is 01:00:28 Under the age of 12 Yeah And he is no he is like His eyes are so scary to me They're dead No emotion Well yeah Because he's just
Starting point is 01:00:40 He's reached the end of like What you can do on YouTube So it's like he's just having Oh he's gonna 100% be killing people very soon Yeah he just has to do something like that I mean this does seem like the next step right I remember reading like defenses too Because like I think the guy was a stuntman
Starting point is 01:00:55 Like a stunt performer Who escaped the building into a last name Stutman Of the Cincinnati stuntman Of the exactly the Akron of the Akron stuntman's. But I remember like some people like, it's fine.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Guys is like a professional like get out of fire for money person. That's a firefighter. And they wear like suits. Stuntmen are not. Stuntmen are like they're trained, but they get hurt on their jobs. Like that is part of it.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Constantly. They don't get hurt. And often like with fire stuff, it's very specific on what they're doing and like how much time. They're allowed to be, like, in the fire. Like, all this stuff is really, like, regulated within the film industry. So, and I just, it doesn't sound like that's what's going on.
Starting point is 01:01:43 You can't, really, you can't even imagine how seriously he takes him. You can't even imagine. Like, it's a, your brain is trying to think of it as somebody who's familiar with, like, the actual film industry that's highly regulated as opposed to this bullshit. And, like, you can't even, like, possibly conceive of, like, how seriously he takes it. I feel. All right. Next, he's just going to burn a pile of money. And he's like, go get the money.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Go get the money. See how much money you can get before it all burns up. It burns, yeah. How long do we all think it's going to be before he actually kills somebody? Is it a matter of months? Is it a matter of years? Like, how closer we to this? It's really a race between the NDAs and like how rich he's gotten, you know, to like to get out of any problems.
Starting point is 01:02:29 Look at the way this video starts, dude. He's got, there's a guy tied up with a. fire burning behind him. Yeah, just like, look at this whole thing where he's like, hey, man, I'm right here with a poor person who's going to die for like maybe half a million. Are you guys ready? Like, 53 million or 54 million
Starting point is 01:02:45 people watch this. Yeah. It's behind him. Is that the pile of money behind him? I was kidding. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay, good luck, man. You're braver than me. This is going to be crazy. This man is literally in a burning building. Oh, there's fire. Oh!
Starting point is 01:03:03 Shut. the fuck up. Also, you know what I realized? This isn't a real fire. Like, it's under control because it's all gas. It's like it's all gas. It's like, I don't think he's actually burning a structure down. It's like, there's flames around you, guy. You need to get in the YouTube comments, prompt
Starting point is 01:03:18 my, fat. Hey, this isn't even an existential threat to the participant. Fake. Not even real fire. Not even real fire. Anyways, the problem people have isn't that there was zero safety for cars.
Starting point is 01:03:33 It's or that the fire wasn't real. Obviously, those things would be legally necessary. I think it's the whole premise of a rich guy humiliating non-rich people by subjecting them to life-threatening ordeals, which they go along with in the hopes of attaining financial security. That feels like, it's like that feels like the area. It's cartoonishly evil. Yeah. It's like sort of a thing that if you made it up 10 years ago, everyone would be like, yeah, I don't think so. Like that's a little bit over the top. A hundred years ago, Mr. Beast would have been like, hey, guys, I got this woman here tied to these train tracks. Let's see if she can get out. Like, it's just, it is, it is over the top, like, laughably cartoonishly evil. I think actually about a hundred years ago here to be like, hi, welcome to the triangle shirt waist factory. I'm Mr. Beast. I run this facility. And you have, how many girls can get out? You have no options at all except to work for me in these dire conditions. And I hate that fucking Upton Sinclair. That's what I think. That's what I think. That's probably where he's at. But question, did that guy get the money or no? He did. I mean, you're going to have to watch. I don't want to watch it.
Starting point is 01:04:40 I don't want to watch it. It's pretty frantic because what happens is it's not really a birdie. Like that room just gets enveloped in flames. And then once he gets out of his like fucking rope that he's tied with, he has to run back in to just like grab as many bags as possible. So it's like. Of money? Yeah. So look, he gets the bags off.
Starting point is 01:05:02 I don't know. They just launched him out of a fucking. can in this other thing. So now he's got it off and now he's like, all right, get the fuck out of here with the money I need to live a life. Oh my God. And then they're like, oh, sorry, man, you didn't get it all. So he has to go in and get more money.
Starting point is 01:05:17 We live in hell, folks. The money is burning. Now, why would you say that? Yeah. The visuals are very, very, I mean, like, again, I don't think, I don't think old Jimmy, aka Mr. Beast, is still tethered to the earth like the rest of us are. No, no, no, no. Well, they did a study, right? There's a, once you reach a certain level of wealth, you actually, like, they did, like, scientifically proven you start to lose empathy in your brain because you don't need it anymore.
Starting point is 01:05:45 Right, right, right. You can run that study. You can just look at them. I know. It's truly like, that's the least necessary. I'm glad science figured that out. I feel like it's the least necessary study of the past 20 years. I just look around anecdotally. Just look at these people who are like, normal, normal, no, oh, what the fuck just happened?
Starting point is 01:06:02 Oh, they reached the plateau where... They got 200 million subscribers on YouTube. Yeah. Anyways, maybe we'll all be raptured up or maybe Jimmy will be raptured up. I don't know. Maybe the poor will be raptured up. Dude, I hope that guy doesn't get raptured up because if he did, went through all that to get that money
Starting point is 01:06:19 and then he gets sucked up into heaven, I'd be so... Sorry, you can't take it with you. Mr. Beast is there, like, laughing at him. It stays with me here in hell. Well, Mallory. Briah, such a pleasure having you both on The Daily Zykegeist. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Reading Smut.
Starting point is 01:06:40 Everywhere you get podcasts, I'm not currently online, but, Brea, people can find you. Unfortunately, you don't have to. Go listen to our podcast, Reading Smut, Reading Smut, Reading Glasses, they're both on the Maximum Bund Network. You can find me on Instagram, Instagram, occasionally, Brea Grant. Nice. Is there a, we usually ask people if there's a work of media. that they've been enjoying. I would love to hear if there's a book recommendation
Starting point is 01:07:06 from the past year that you would recommend that does or doesn't involve fucking a balloon animal, werewolf. Okay. But do you want smut specific? No, it doesn't need to be smut. I would love it if it wasn't, but you can... Because I want...
Starting point is 01:07:23 I have my fill of that stuff. Thanks. Brea, which one of your favorite books of the year? I can give you a smut-adjacent book. which is a book called Sky Daddy by Kate Falk. She put out a book of short stories a couple years ago that I really loved. And then she wrote this book called Sky Daddy, and it is a woman who's obsessed with plane crashes
Starting point is 01:07:45 and being on a plane when it crashes, and it is sort of sexually obsessed with that. So she constantly uses her money to go get on a plane, in the hopes that it will crash. It is obviously a strange book. But for me, it was one of the most interesting characters that I've read in the past few years, like just a fascinating woman who knows this one thing she really wants. It obviously makes her a little bit of an outcast in her community of friends, the few friends she has, as they discover this about her. But fantastic book, wonderfully written if you're looking for something sort of strange.
Starting point is 01:08:22 But it's like a literary, a literary fiction book can definitely recommend. Wow. So is it kind of like Cronenberg's Crash? Crash, yeah. In that way? Or not that it's one-to-one, but I'm just saying like that sort of like there's an intrigue to this sort of being in a precarious situation. Exactly, exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:40 Yeah. Mallory? I have quite a few. But because it's October 1st and it's spooky season, I'm going to recommend a book that you are reading, Brea, and I have already read. We're going to have the author on our show. We're really excited about it. It's Feigned by Almacatsu. The pitch is wicked quick.
Starting point is 01:08:56 It's just succession, but with a demon. It is about a very rich family in New York City. Speaking of lacking empathy, who they control this vast empire of businesses. And turns out that the thing that is fueling all of that success is a demon that the head of the family controls who makes bad things happen to people who cross them. It's wicked, quick read. It's not super, it's very spooky, but it's not scary. There's no, like, jump scares or anything. It's really, really fun.
Starting point is 01:09:24 It's really well written. It's a quick read. I could not recommend it more for October. Oh, yeah. What's it called again? Fiend? Fiend. Fiend. Feeing. Fing. Feein. Feein. Also a great playboy Cardi song.
Starting point is 01:09:36 Miles, where can people find you as their working media? You've been enjoying. Yeah, find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. If you want to hear me talk about 90-day fiancé, I do that over at 420-day fiancé. I'll work. I like, is from at stonecettle.b.b.com social just posted. Pete Hegseth is basically a meat cyber truck. And I'm like, yeah, that's actually, that is. Meat Cybertruck is probably the best description I've heard. So, yeah, good one.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Good one. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien All Blue Sky at Jack O'Bee, the number one. I got no media for you. Go read Sky Daddy and Feend. I think those are good ideas. I'll try and come up with a book. You can eat a pile of potatoes mixed with peppers and onions, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:23 So just try this stuff. I'm telling you guys, my underrated, salt. Give it a shot. There's even this other like black stuff I forget the name of it that you sometimes put with it The like But salt's the main thing Yeah
Starting point is 01:10:35 You don't want to ruin it with the other one Well the thing is if you're drinking all that water You gotta have some salt You gotta have some salt Got to You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky At Daily Zykeist We're at The Daily Zitegeist on Instagram
Starting point is 01:10:49 You can go to this episode Wherever you're listening to it And there at the bottom You will find the footnotes Which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy.
Starting point is 01:11:02 Miles, is there a song that you think the people might enjoy? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been doing a lot of electronic music, so I want to get back to, like, people playing instruments, and why not do it? Oh, my God, Miles just took out
Starting point is 01:11:13 his acoustic guitar. Got on my accordion. Guys, I'm learning bagpipes. Just give me a little bit to get these things warmed up. But this bad, bad, not good track, it's called Your Soul and Mine. It's from the album that came out last year
Starting point is 01:11:27 called mid spiral. I think it's what we're right, right? Are we mid spiral right now? Yeah. Yeah. The spiral is pretty mid. Yeah. Let me see you throw that pig skin again.
Starting point is 01:11:36 Yeah, it's mid. Yeah. Anyway, your soul and mine, bad, bad, not good. Great band. Check it up. All right. We will link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zite guys are the production of IHeart Radio
Starting point is 01:11:48 for more podcasts from IHeart Radio. Visit the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it for us this morning, but we're back this afternoon. tell you what is trending and we'll talk to y'all then bye bye the daily zeit guys is executive produced by katherine law co-produced by bay way co-produced by victor wright co-written by jm mcnap edited and engineered by justin connor the murder of an 18-year-old girl in graves county kentucky went unsolved for years
Starting point is 01:12:27 Until a local housewife, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happen to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad-free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Hi there. This is Josh Clark from the Stuff You Should Know podcast. If you've been thinking, man alive, I could go for some good true crime podcast episodes. Then have we got good news for you. Stuff You Should Know just released a playlist of 12 of our best true crime episodes of all time. There's a shootout in broad daylight. People using axes in really terrible ways, disappearances, legendary heists, the whole nine yards. So check out the Stuff You Should Know true crime playlist. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcast. or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jonathan Goldstein, and on the new season of heavyweight...
Starting point is 01:13:33 And so I pointed the gun at him and said this isn't a joke. A man who robbed a bank when he was 14 years old. And a centenarian rediscovers a love lost 80 years ago. How can a 101-year-old woman fall in love again? Listen to heavyweight on the I-heart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of the On Purpose podcast. Recently, I had a conversation with the one and only, Madonna.
Starting point is 01:14:08 When I was broke and I had no friends, nowhere to live, I was held up at gunpoint, I was robbed. All these horrendous things happened to me. I had such an unhappy childhood that whatever happened to me in New York is better than what my life was, so I'm not going back. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the IHeart Radio Hour. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.