The Daily Zeitgeist - Mr. White Trends 11/18: Twitter, Mastodon, Elizabeth Holmes, Jack Smith, DOJ, Sylvester Stallone

Episode Date: November 19, 2022

In this edition of Mr. White Trends, Jack and Miles discuss the slow death of Twitter, the rise of Mastodon, Elizabeth Holmes getting sentenced, Jack Smith overseeing Trump's criminal investigations, the DOJ investigating the Taylor Swift ticket debacle, and Sylvester Stallone's new show "Tulsa King"!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In California during the summer of 1975, within the span of 17 days and less than 90 miles, two women did something no other woman had done before, try to assassinate the President of the United States. One was the protege of Charles Manson. 26-year-old Lynette Fromm, nickname Squeaky. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer this

season on the new podcast Rip Current. Hear episodes of Rip Current early and completely ad-free and receive exclusive bonus content by subscribing to iHeart True Crime Plus only on Apple Podcasts. There's so much beauty in Mexican culture like mariachis, delicious cuisine, and even lucha libre. Join us for the new podcast, Lucha Libre Behind the Mask, a 12-episode podcast in both English and Spanish about the history and cultural richness of lucha libre. And I'm your host, Santos Escobar, emperor of lucha libre and a WWE superstar. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you stream podcasts. Hi, I am Lacey Lamar. And I'm also Lacey Lamar. Just kidding, I'm Amber Revin. Okay, everybody, we have exciting news to share. We're back with season two of the Amber and Lacey, Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network.

This season, we make new friends, deep dive into my steamy DMs, answer your listener questions, and more. The more is punch each other. Listen to the Amber and Lacey Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Just listen, okay? Or Lacey gets it. Do it. Señora Sex Ed is not your mommy's sex talk. This show is la plática like you've never heard it before. We're breaking the stigma and silence around sex and

sexuality in Latinx communities. This podcast is an intergenerational conversation between Latinas from Gen X to Gen Z. We're your hosts, Viosa and Mala. You might recognize us from our first show, Locatora Radio. Listen to Señora Sex Ed on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of Mr. White Trends, which is supposed to be like white dread.

Oh, yeah. And then the quote is, the sights of the world are upon Maricopa County. Okay. Dude, what are you fucking eating right now? Big bite of apple, man. Oh, man. Mr. White Dread. Hey.

All right. I found my favorite type of apple since Honeycrisp. What's that? I can't remember the name because i already pulled the sticker off but but i'm gonna find it by the end of this recording that's what we call a tease i am jack that is miles yes i am here's some of the things that are trending yeah twitter have you seen this stuff man what's going on with the dang twitter i don't know full rip i think i don't know i mean it's just like the vibe on twitter is that it's everyone is like it's it's all burning down and i get that all these people leaving is not good for the health of the website so that's kind of the the tone on their twitter at the moment uh and i think it's just been a big back and forth of like

oh elon fired everybody but now he's begging people to come back and be like prove to me you wrote code it's it's i don't it's so fucking chaotic and i'm still trying i mean i know that this there's a great benefit to a place that like is like an incubator for activism that benefits like the status quo to not have that so i can see why twitter like crashing and burning i can see the logic of being like yeah that might help people there for all their intents and purposes to just kind of maybe stifle a movement uh or just the ability for people to freely exchange ideas that ends up kind of putting people more on the left of center things. But then also like this whole,

the last few weeks has just been people who are so insulated by their own bullshit are quite literally just having a reckoning with what reality is out there. I think that's what's happening. In a way, everything can be true, which is hilarious and terrifying, but yeah,

he like bluffed his way, memed his way into having to buy this. You know, usually he likes to talk a big game and then back out. And this time a judge was like, yeah, no, you're going to have to buy this. So he bought it. And then he was ill prepared

and not as smart as he was claiming and full of shit. And so, so but he that didn't stop him from coming in guns blazing and being like all right by tomorrow four o'clock you gotta let me know if you're in or you're out right and it's not gonna be easy and everyone's like oh we already said we're out like but before you started the speech we're fuck you we're out um well it's interesting too because i think as like it's right now the the trial just kicked off for that 50 billion dollar like pay like package that he got at tesla yeah tesla yeah and it's the same judge who's like the one who enforced the the twitter buyout so he's just like i don't this guy's fucking losing

it yeah you hate me so much can i keep some of it that's his argument why don't you just keep some of it no yeah what we're saying is that this was beyond the bounds of a reasonable payment i don't know what that means this can i let me keep one car and one billion. But the richer you are, the more likely you are for both everybody around you and usually the mainstream media to assume everything you're saying is true.

And then you start believing your own bullshit. And then you come into contact with reality sometimes i think yeah you know sometimes you just create a university and it's named vanderbilt and you get away with it for entire lifetime but sometimes you get to the find out stage of the fucking around and fighting out yeah uh so yeah he's he's finding out that he does not know anything about much except that he had emeralds in his pocket as a little boy and his hair plugs made him a new guy that everyone thought was a genius with fake degrees um but the other thing that's trending along with that is bring back trump because now a bunch of bots and maga chuds

are like i mean if you're gonna go full free speech man bring him back and he's like that like that question is still being discussed and someone's like well you brought back Jordan Peterson and the Babylon B bring back Alex Jones and he immediately said no and then like all the Elon stands like I don't understand

how do you square this Elon I thought this was radically free speech so you know well TikTok y'all but it how do you square this, Elon? I thought this was radically free speech. TikTok, y'all. The wheels, they're starting to get a little wobbly on this thing. The Apple that I was munching on

when we first started the show was Sugarbee. Sugarbee. I'm not very deep into my Sugarbee experimentation, so I can't fully vouch for it, but I'd be curious to hear other people's. It's very crisp, not as tart as a Honeycrisp, but as crisp, and it's sugary sweet,

which is, I'm a sugar bitch. Sugary sweet, look at you. Yeah, but bring back Trump. Come come on y'all uh mastodon is trending that's the number one google trends thing so like you go to new york times you go to cnn their top stories are all like twitter fucked up but on on google trends it seems like a lot of people are looking at mastodon mastodon man yeah mastodon hey you want a mastodon why not uh yeah i think that there's like so it's like the rush to where everyone's going it really feels like you're at like a party that's got broke up by the cops

yeah and you're like yo where's the next spot at where's the next spot at where are we going where are we going uh yeah a lot of people are going to mastodon um yeah i'll i'll check it out i mean it's like is it i think it's kind of like reddit right where you like you kind of you go to servers and stuff that are like of interests you like and like that's how it's sort of organized no clue there are plenty of like it's so funny how many twitter threads are out there right now where like people like all right y'all this is how you set up on Macedon. Uh, or like, there's like a bunch of other things waiting in the wings,

but damn, I mean, you'd think that like in my mind, I was like, could you use Instagram? Cause it's the same kind of scroll thing and then post text to that and repost, but then get the timeline to just show you everything that's being posted in

real time to at least give you some semblance of what twitter was doing uh but probably not i mean it's oh it's not real time well no i'm saying like because you know there's like there's the algorithmic feed that you got on instagram it's like hey man your homie posted this shift six days ago right uh then going i think because there is is some simplified app that does that. Whatever. Trending now. Yeah, there's not a great alternative as far as I know to the trending tab on Twitter.

But let us know if I'm wrong about that, which I can't imagine that I would be. I'm up on all the latest technologies. Elizabeth Holmes. All right, I'll bite. What are AA batteries? AA batteries.

So does that mean they just started with A's and then everything else is like... Oh, yeah. Wait, is there a single A battery? Single A ball. Yeah. What? I think there must be. No, like what's a single A battery?

It's just thick. It's just thick. It's just thick. It's not as thick as a C or, God forbid, a D. Single A battery. Yeah. Picture. I said, thank you, Quora. That will also tell me why I'm Gregnant.

It said, how come there's no single A? And I don't know. It doesn't say. Oh, it said there used to be oh it looked like the old nine volt kind of looked like a a battery whatever civilization's very stupid they were just like well this one's double a and people are like must be better yes let's just go yes yo we got triple a coming yes yes yes fuck yeah um elizabeth holmes speaking of bullshit pseudo geniuses uh she is getting sentenced today uh-oh for all of her miss uh misdeeds

but the funny part is senator cory booker signed on to a letter of support being like hey judge be lenient on her huh no motherfucker no what end he was asking the judge to be lenient it sounds like i don't know if the full sentence has happened yet uh but it sounded like the judge wasn't really interested in any uh things that may make the sentence lighter than what was suggested uh but anyway again i'm not really i again i don't i'm not the biggest uh fan of the prisons uh but i think it's just interesting to watch like a senator sitting senator like yeah use their political sway to like on behalf of a billionaire grifter or wannabe it just it puts a bad taste in my mouth because Because I was counting on Cory Booker. I was counting on him. Yeah, that is all our hopes are tied up in a Cory Booker presidency eventually happening.

Look, we all need the E40 if he went to boarding school, is how he talks. If you're wondering, what good does it do him to support Elizabeth Holmes? One thing you should know is that Elizabeth Holmes' dad, Christian, worked for multiple government agencies before relocating to Houston, Texas to serve as vice president of Enron. She's connected

all the way up to the top of the real Illuminati, which is just a bunch of yacht clubs for very rich people. I love a yacht club. A yacht club for the very rich? Yeah.

Even a yacht club, even for the, like they say, other yacht clubs don't discriminate enough. It's got to be a super yacht if you want to roll with the boys. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it.

Got it. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films

and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades.

Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interviewed dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed

on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It was December 2019 when the story blew up. In Green Bay, Wisconsin, former Packers star Kabir Bajabiamila caught up in a bizarre situation. KGB explaining what he believes led to the arrest of his friends at a children's Christmas play.

A family man, former NFL player, devout Christian, now cut off from his family and connected to a strange arrest. I am going to share my journey of how I went from Christianity to now a Hebrew Israelite. I got swept up in Kabir's journey. But this was only the beginning in a story about faith and football, the search for meaning away from the gridiron and the consequences for everyone involved. You mix homesteading with guns and church

and a little bit of the spice of conspiracy theories that we liked. Voila, you got straight away. I felt like I was living in North Korea, but worse, if that's possible. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. in Latinx communities. This podcast is an intergenerational conversation between Latinas from Gen X to Gen Z. We're covering everything from body image to representation in film and television.

We even interview iconic Latinas like Puerto Rican actress Ana Ortiz. I felt in control of my own physical body and my own self. I was on birth control. I had sort of had my first sexual experience. If you're in your señora era or know someone who is, then this is the show for you. We're your hosts, Diosa and Mala, and you might recognize us from our flagship podcast, Locatora Radio.

We're so excited for you to hear our brand new podcast, Señora Sex Ed. so excited for you to hear our brand new podcast, Señora Sex Ed. Listen to Señora Sex Ed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the Biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? I mean, the Boone County Rebels will stay the Boone County Rebels with the image of the Biscuits. It's right here in black and white in print.

A lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch. As a leader, you choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team? I'd just take all the other stuff out of it. On segregation academies, when civil rights said that we need to integrate public schools, these charter schools were exempt from that. Bigger than a flag or mascot.

You have to be ready for serious backlash. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you have to be ready for serious backlash listen to rebel spirit on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back and my my name's trending one of my ears is burning okay uh jack is trending but with the last name smith because this is uh this is the new muller yeah the special counsel that has been appointed by merrick garland which uh i mean a lot of people are like no well i think i'm pretty sure he was a hague prosecutor in the past uh and also he like i think one of the things that a lot of people point to in his past is like he got a cia officer like indicted and convicted for fucking around with classified information so he has a specialty a lot of people

have been immediately thinking special counsel equals Robert Mueller equals. Well, then fucking nothing's going to happen. That part of legal Twitter is very active right now talking about all the differences in what's happening, because at this point, this investigation isn't of a sitting president. It is of just a private citizen. Yeah. So the stakes are a little bit different there. Yeah. Stakes are a little different.

But I think, again, I also get people being like, how can we get to the fucking indictments? Like, please. And I think the other thing is with a special counsel, if a new DOJ comes in, they can't just fucking kneecap that. They can't. No, they can't. They cannot.

So it protects the integrity, I guess, of the investigation. All that to say, we just don't know what the fuck is going to happen. I do think like so one thing that we've seen is that it's now become clear that Trump is not it's not in the Republican Party's interest to save him, keep him around and embrace him necessarily nah so i do think that there's probably going to be less internal resistance to some some of the stuff that would go forward so it'll be interesting because like i don't know like if this can be wrapped up before de santa starts getting owned by Trump during the primaries, and once Trump picks up speed, and by that I mean actually starts doing Adderall again

and picks up speed and isn't so sleepy on the campaign trail, I think this feels a little bit more hopeful. I don't know. We'll see. DOJ. Miles miles is this the same dang story no what's happening no doj is they're pissed they are now also they said they opened up an antitrust investigation into ticket master because of the taylor swift ticket debacle and just looking at if live nation has abused its power over the live music industry, spoiler alert, ask any fucking person who's been near live music and they'll say, uh, yeah, it's the cause of and not solution to any of live music's problems. So I don't know, maybe the Swifties, they were so outraged.

It got the DOJ to finally take a look at Live Nation. But hey, all right, let's see. Let's see where that goes or if it's just gonna be like and we find them three million dollars okay what that's a lot of dang money what do you mean i know it's six taylor swift tickets but i think they learned their lesson we find them backstage passes to the new taylor swift Please do not look on my social media when I'm there with my children who begged so nicely for daddy to lean

on the Live Nation. Wow. Could you imagine that one? DOJ just leaned on Live Nation for tickets. I'd also believe that. That's where this ends up. Sly Stallone was trending on the conversation we were having before we started recording because he's in the new Tulsa King. I had mainly been exposed to through like twitter ads i think yeah yeah which

rare that i got a few pre-roll pre-roll uh what yeah well when i say pre-roll i'm always saying a pre-rolled joints rather than like a pre-roll ad um yes uh yeah i saw that on like i was getting hit with it on all kinds of like you get hit with scientology ads all the time scientology is up in my ass they they think they almost got me i think it's because i told you you know to not be googling for like acting lessons so much that's how i get you yeah they know if you've been looking like, how do I get my in? How do I get catch my big break? Big break in Hollywood?

Question mark. How to have career like Tom Cruise. Oh, shit. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right.

What's going on here? But yeah, Tulsa King has, uh, I don't, it's, it's, it's something more highly rated. Basically, producer Anna likes it. She don't it's it's basically producer anna likes it she don't really

like it she said it's a mess but fun and we were just talking about the fact that sylvester stallone despite being the italian stallion in rocky and famously italian never been in a mob movie to this point wow that's why respectability man that's about him i guess he was always the cop in the mob movie yeah i guess get carter he like went to like that was the closest he came because he plays a hitman in that and like he plays a hitman in assassins but he's not like a mobster hitman no he's always gonna be like sort of like a net positive i think is how he likes his characters to be like net positive on the world yeah like what's the most evil character he played like really oh this guy's fucking this guy's a monster

yeah yeah judge dread is what brian said i mean yeah okay a cap so yeah maybe dread was the the biggest villain he was you know he like shoot someone who is trying to like assassinate a baby you know that's the type of character that he is yeah exactly it's like oh he ripped the guy's head off but he he was a drug dealer yeah so it's all it's all good but yeah i don't uh i don't i don't i don't see myself watching the show i don't care about sylvester stallone unless what demolition man i told you like we were saying before i'm like demolition man is the height for me i mean that might be the height of american cinema so that's not saying that much but like it's other than that i don't have the same like connection to rocky that you do. Aside from that one.

I'm sorry. Do you not like Oscars and racism? Do you not like the Oscars co-signing a white supremacist revision of boxing history? Yeah, that's true. All right. No,

you got me. I do like that. Are you going to watch it? Do you have any interest any interest i mean like there's so many i'm two episodes in on that star wars show that uh and or yeah you guys uh were telling me to watch and i like it but i can't even like find the energy i don't know if it's like the energy or just like the time it's like after the kids go down it's if it ain't something you'd be like yo let's hop into this fuck the world that's kind of mirroring the one i'm in yeah uh my wife first like i actually heard about this one so i'm

wondering if i could even get her on board to like watching this one with me but right i don't i don't think it's even worth it because she won't like it and then yeah yeah it's i wonder if that's one of the reasons why people aren't watching it as much because like is nobody watching yeah the ratings are pretty low considering the other star wars shows they put out and a lot of people are like like shit that's bad because this one's actually good and you want to encourage disney to make more of this rather than like you know empty fluff stuff that just doesn't feel like it's really got some like meat to it or at least narratively like doing something different um and i think it's probably because like when you watch it it is like it's a it's a little bit grittier

uh but i guess it all depends on how you unwind um but i can i will say that baby yoda so michael clayton is by the same filmmaker one of my right one of my favorite movies but there's also something where like he's had some other movies that i haven't really liked and the thing with them that hasn't like really got me on board is that he seems to like plot for the sake of plot. He likes to start a thread and just weave you through it. It just must be something about some of the things he's interested in that I'm not that into. Because two episodes in, I'm just feeling like a little bit blah about it. And I know that our team is on board with this show.

So I probably just need to are you. Yeah, I don't I don't know how Star Wars brain you are either. Like, I mean, I know you fuck with Star Wars, but like, I don't know. Like if you're rabid, I'm not Tracy from stuff Missed in History Class would say to describe her own fandom. But yeah, because I don't know. It all comes together. Look, you like what you like and go do you. But I didn't realize he wrote that movie, The Cutting Edge.

I don't know if you remember that about the hockey player who has to learn how to figure skate. Who has to learn how to figure skate? Yeah. I mean, yeah. I was like, that's the first movie he wrote. I remember fucking with that because I was like that's the first movie he wrote i i remember fucking with that because i was like yo i play hockey right uh but i never never ended up figure skating anyway yeah but that was was that your dream that you would always like have a late

career as a figure skater yeah yeah i think so i think so um all right and finally the other thing that is trending is rose podcast dot vodka exactly get your tickets to the will you accept this rose live show uh arden's bachelorette birthday last year was fucking hilarious uh gareth reynolds absolutely killed it last year absolutely killed it all this the blonde wig in person. Oh, dude. My wig game is getting even stronger for this show. What? Yeah. The accessories I'm about to rock on stage,

you're not ready for this character I'm about to debut. Anyway, but check that live show out. It's basically going to play out an entire season of The Bachelor from intros all the way to hometowns to try and get Arden's Heart. And you can get your tickets because the show will be live at the Dynasty Typewriter Theater on December 9th in LA.

But you can also live stream it too and get in on it. But get all those tickets at rosepodcast.vodka. The show is December 9th. Yes. Yeah. You can get the tickets now. Get the tickets now. Show's December 9th.

Live stream is December 9th. Yeah. Or if you buy the tickets to the live stream you will be able to do it on demand i think for like the first 10 days or so after that and no tdz live shows upcoming so this is this is your chance to see one of us in person um so yeah get there where maybe end of towards the end of 2023 we might have a tour coming. But I think we're going to have something. We'll have something in the works. We'll have something for y'all. But not in the super near future.

So go support RosePodcast.podcast. Yes. And that is because I'm barred from leaving the state. Yeah. You can just tell them no. Yeah. We're not supposed to talk about that. All right.

Well, it'll come out. It'll come out. All right. Those are some of the things that are trending on this friday afternoon we are back on monday with a whole ass episode of the show until then be kind to each other be kind to yourselves yes uh get the vaccine get your flu shot i finally did that shit i finally did what i've been telling y'all to do um And it was the least painful shot I've ever had in my life. Wow. I told the nurse that I was like, that was, you're really good at this. She's like, I have

not given you the shot yet. Oh no! And then I ran out of the, I ran into the parking lot crying. Get the booster too if you haven't gotten the booster. the new booster actually works I'm told don't do nothing about white supremacy

and we will talk to y'all on Monday have a good weekend bye hi I am Lacey Lamar and I'm also Lacey Lamar just And I'm also Lacey Lamar. Just kidding. I'm Amber Reffin. What?

Okay, everybody, we have exciting news to share. We're back with season two of the Amber and Lacey, Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network. This season, we make new friends, deep dive into my steamy DMs, answer your listener questions, and more. The more is punch each other. Answer your listener questions and more. The more is punch each other. Listen to the Amber and Lacey Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen, okay?

Or Lacey gets it. Do it. In California during the summer of 1975, within the span of 17 days and less than 90 miles, two women did something no other woman had done before, try to assassinate the president of the United States. One was the protege of Charles Manson. 26-year-old Lynette Fromm, nicknamed Squeaky. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore.

The story of one strange and violent summer, This season on the new podcast, Rip Current. Hear episodes of Rip Current early and completely ad-free and receive exclusive bonus content by subscribing to iHeartTrue Crime Plus only on Apple Podcasts. Captain's Log, Stardate 2024. We're floating somewhere in the cosmos, but we've lost our map. Yeah, because you refuse to ask for directions. It's Space Gem, There are no roads. Good point. So where are we headed?

Into the unknown, of course. Join us on In Our Own World as we uncover hidden truths, navigate the depths of culture, identity, and the human spirit. With a hint of mischief. One episode at a time. Buckle up and listen to In Our Own World on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust us, it's out of this world.

How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? It's right here in black and white in print.

It's bigger than a flag or mascot. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.