The Daily Zeitgeist - Mueller’s 49 Questions, The Good Yellow Fever 5.1.18

Episode Date: May 1, 2018

In episode 138, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Biniam Bizuneh to discuss Michelle Wolf's response to the WHCD criticism, May Day rallies, Puerto Rico continuing to protest because the US has fa...iled them, Mueller's questions for Trump being leaked, midterm elections coming up, Whole Foods partnering with the restaurant Yellow Fever, Kraft's new Oreo style for China, & more!  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:38 at Transietio on Twitter and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Baby, when you finally get to love somebody, guess what? It's going to be gray. Thank you for everybody who I think was badgering me since, I think, like months ago to do a It's Going to Be May and Sync One. And look, I obliged. So thank you. And guess what? It's Gonna Be May and sync one and look I obliged
Starting point is 00:03:05 so thank you and guess what it's May are you happy are you happy the real like passive aggressive like following through
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Starting point is 00:03:19 happy May Day everybody happy birthday to my eldest he is two today. Look at you, sun turning two like a shortstop. Congrats. Was I not supposed to talk yet?
Starting point is 00:03:31 Sorry. No, you're... Wow, you fucked that up. Okay. Take it from the top, Nick. We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious comedian, Vinny Mbazune. Hello.
Starting point is 00:03:42 What's up, man? I'm great. How are you? We're thrilled to have you. What is a talented, funny guy like you have in his search history? What have you searched most recently? Well, okay, I'm gonna say two things. One, yesterday, one of my friends, she posted an Instagram story where she was like, I logged into Musical.ly for the first time in a couple months and realized I have over 100,000 followers.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Here's a couple greatest hits. And I was just like, what? This girl is not a performer. She just like, I guess, did this on her off time. And then I looked at, if you guys don't know what Musical.ly is, it's like Twitter, except all you do is lip sync to music. That's all it is. And then you move the camera like really annoyingly.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Yeah, if you can get that working, that's how you become a real, is it Musical.ly or Musical.ly? Musical.ly. Or whatever it is. It's spelled like dot L-Y. Musical.ly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Musical.ly. And shoot, so I searched it because I was just like, what? Yeah. And it's this whole- What's her username on there? It's Sophia Grace Honey, H-U-N-N-Y. And I wasn't able to look at it on a laptop
Starting point is 00:04:49 because I think you maybe have to have the app to view. And then I went on this whole rabbit hole of seeing people who become famous through Musical.ly. And it's a lot of people. It's like a new discovery thing. It's like the new Vine. Yeah, it is like the new Vine. And can't you tip them live like it's a Switch or Twitch?
Starting point is 00:05:09 Okay, Pappy. What is that, your Switch, your Nintendo Twitch? I mean, you know how... Fuck you. You know how... The funny thing is we're only a couple years apart. I feel like it's getting up there as a platform to the point where Donald Glover is going to use it to release
Starting point is 00:05:28 some sad notes I thought musically was washed though I thought it was done is it done I don't know I remember it when it was peak like two years ago probably because I remember when I was making digital content like everyone's like oh that's the kids the things kids love but that was here and it's pure lip syncing you can't like be a talented musician
Starting point is 00:05:43 no no no can you That's the thing. Can you just go on there and leave a thing with no music? No, I think you have to be with a song because the whole point is just to act out. I mean, look, probably some young person will correct me. But from my understanding, yeah, you're just sort of lip syncing. And then you have those options of recording it slow so then you can play back quicker so everything's more dramatic. And that app, they say that in the Kendrick Lamar humble video
Starting point is 00:06:06 there's like a shot on this automated crane arm that's like a very expensive shot because like dope shot from production standpoint that shot must cost a lot of money
Starting point is 00:06:15 because that arm they use is like programmed anyway there's a scene in the video where it looks like he's trying to do the musically type shit with the camera
Starting point is 00:06:21 like going around him and that's like a nod to musically so yeah I mean maybe it's not washed Kendrick's just like let me get a nod to musically type shit with the camera going around him. And that's like a nod to musically. So, yeah. I mean, maybe it's not washed. And they're just like, let me get a nod to musically. Yeah. Musically.
Starting point is 00:06:30 I love it. What else do you have in your search history? You said you wanted to give us two. Oh, this is just crazy. No one's going to be able to find this link because I only found it because I was looking at like Deadpool 2 news. And you screenshotted it. Yeah, and I screenshotted it.
Starting point is 00:06:44 And they still haven't changed it. So there's a website. It's called ageofthenerd.com. And its headline is 20th Century Fox releases a NEGA ton of Deadpool 2 images. So 20th Century Fox releases a negaton of Deadpool 2 images. And I just couldn't stop laughing at this because it's been like three days and it's still not corrected. And it just is like,
Starting point is 00:07:08 how much is a negaton? Yeah. That's like one of those questions that the owl from the Tootsie Roll commercial asks. Right. How many tons in one negaton? Negaton. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:16 An offensive amount of pictures. How many negas you can fit in a Volkswagen? We don't know. I mean, it does sound like- Is that what they're trying to do? It sounds like a lot. Yeah. I don't know where they- A negaton sounds like more than a megaton. Well. I mean, it does sound like, it sounds like a lot. Yeah, I don't know where they,
Starting point is 00:07:25 a megaton sounds like more than a megaton. Well, I mean, as I search it, it sounds like a negatively charged electron. That's true.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Yeah. That's probably a real word. Yeah, no, I mean, it's in Wiktionary, so I don't know if that's a thing,
Starting point is 00:07:37 but look, and I hated chemistry and all that shit, so don't ask me about valence electrons. Yeah, but Wiktionary is where most scientists
Starting point is 00:07:44 go to oh absolutely yeah once and for all scott pruitt's favorite website benny what is something you think is overrated so you guys have probably covered this about kanye and the tweets and stuff what's going on but here's my position on it since when do we care what our rappers' political beliefs are? John Lennon was an anarchist, and I'm still listening to Imagine. Who cares? Yeah, people brought that up about Morrissey, too.
Starting point is 00:08:12 This isn't new to artists with fucked political views. I think the problem is his music is nearly antithetical to this shit leading up to this point. It seemed diametrically opposed to what Donald Trump stood for. so it's like wait what the what the fuck is going on i mean i don't think he's making any good points like i listened to that ti song i think it's trash yeah it's not even like it's a cool format to be like we're having a conversation over beat but it's bad i hope it's not on the album no and and also kanye doesn't come up with any good counterpoints no yeah we talked about. Yeah, we talked about this yesterday. Yeah, we talked about this yesterday. It's like he did us all a favor because we were like, well, like maybe he's going to come out with like something we haven't thought about before because he's on some like next level shit and like has lost his mind and then put it back together.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Maybe he has like some crazy new way that, you know, the MAGA hat makes sense. But then he just like gave all the like washed shitty points that like conservatives make when they first like come around to that right I mean everyone's like it mostly seemed like he was just saying like like T.I. would be like don't you know that if you support person who has like T.I. was being logical and then Kanye was just like I'm a free thinker it's like what is that no no you didn't answer my question my man don't you feel you have a responsibility to people because of your platform? Hey, man, I took the MAGA hat. Give it empathy and love.
Starting point is 00:09:30 No, shut the fuck up. So here's the thing I think is overrated is that I don't think his wearing a MAGA hat is going to have an effect on actual politics. Like I, and maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think like Donald Trump's now going to have all these black people supporting him because Kanye wore this hat. But the problem is you start seeing in his comments, there are people of color starting because they are such Kanye fans and they are divorced from the reality of politics and oppression in this country that they're like, they're just standing for Kanye. Let him do that or whatever. And that's not good because you don't want to say, yo, let this person's like alignment with someone who's racist. Let that rock. No, I can't.
Starting point is 00:10:09 I can't stand for that. I'm torn because there's a part of me that's like, yeah, whatever. I'm gonna listen to his music. If he wants to say that, let him say whatever, you know? And I'm like, I understand. Maybe they are on the same side as me where they don't think the ramifications are that much or that. Well, I think it has an effect for people who might not be as educated on things that if Kanye West is your source of like understanding things, because think about how like people like her crack music. We're like, oh, my God, have your crack music.
Starting point is 00:10:37 And I'm like, yeah, have you read a book? But at the same time, you know, like when you have someone like that, people listen to him and that can already that can disarm people from actually really understanding how nuanced this whole thing is but i agree to your point that kanye does have very little effect i think on the greater picture but to his fans i see something that's potentially not great and also did you see the behind the scenes that he put out to the people versus yay or yeah no i didn't see it like ti was like they show like a conversation ti had with him and he's like, what the fuck is going on? And Kanye's like, look, I don't agree with half the shit he does.
Starting point is 00:11:11 And so T.I. is like, okay, well, what's the shit that you like exactly? Because I'm not understanding it. I like that he's like me, same personality. We both loud. No, well, the thing, the basis was he's just essentially like the fact that everyone told Donald Trump he couldn't be president. And he did. And he's a living Adidas commercial.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Impossible is nothing. So I think he was just like, he did the impossible. And that's what I fuck with. And then he was like, I wore the MAGA hat to show like I can wear it and transform it. It's about equality. And like I can wear it too. And it's like, no, people don't. It's not that black people are dying to wear a MAGA hat.
Starting point is 00:11:44 And it's people of color just feel like, oh, we don't have access to that or like we can't wear it. That is just a symbol of a part of our culture that we do not vibe with. So why the fuck would we want to wear that? There's not people out here being like, hey, man, I wish I could get a Klan hood. Here's a real question. All these people who are like pissed at Kanye and he's disappointed me. I think all of them are still going to listen to his album. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Yeah, yeah. I will. And I'm pissed at him. The thing is, his politics are just whack. That's why I'm like, I'm done. Like, we don't need to give this guy the kind of weight to what he's saying. Yeah. Because he's like every other person who doesn't understand.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Totally. The only problem is he has a platform to do it. And that's why we have to talk about it. And if his album has any of the political content that his second song the yay versus the people song if it has any of that in the songs then i will listen to his album exactly once and then i won't listen here because i can't deal with that like it's the same shit with like on life of pablo there are some songs that are fucking great but the ones where he's like rapping about like getting bleach on his t-shirt from someone's asshole, a porn star in the ass.
Starting point is 00:12:47 It's just like, so I don't know, man. It's like, man, you're, you're a little bit lost. I don't know, but lost his North.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Yeah. Not his child, but his true. I mean, that song is so frustrating. Cause it's like, it's really cool. So good.
Starting point is 00:12:59 So honestly, the most fire shit. And I'll say this again was lift Lift Up or Lift Us Up or whatever. Yeah. This way. Oh, here comes Nick with it. Woo! Whoop-de-de-scoop.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Woo! Scoop-de-de-woop. I mean, this is hilarious. This shit knocks to me. And I like it because, you know what? Yay. The thing is, your genius comes out when you don't intend to use it. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Because you could literally probably create a rap album of all gibberish right and i would probably rock that because that's how it would be so good that's how he recorded so there was a journalist who went about five days before he was going to release late registration his second album and they were like listening to a demo and they said half of the tracks were him just basically doing that like him being like because he didn't he hadn't filled in the lyrics yet he just knew how he wanted it to sound so like yeah I mean that's and that's what a good artist that's
Starting point is 00:13:51 trying to be musical rhythm but like don't fill that shit in with stuff about how you love a underdog story it's just like MAGA hat MAGA my MAGA I love my hat exactly and it's just like whoa still bad okay what's something that's underrated yeah so I don't know if anyone remembers this movie I got my MAGA, I love my hats. Exactly. And it's just like, whoa, still bad. Right. What's something that's underrated?
Starting point is 00:14:09 Yeah, so I don't know if anyone remembers this movie. This came out in like 2013-ish, starred Aubrey Plaza. It's called The To-Do List. It's a pretty much female version of Superbad in the sense that it's like a teenage girl. She wants to lose her virginity. super bad in the sense that it's like a teenage girl, she wants to lose her virginity and she has like a to-do list literally of like I wanna, and there's sexual
Starting point is 00:14:30 things like I wanna try this, I wanna try that, I wanna try that and it was, and like Donald Glover's in it and some other cool people are in it and it's such a funny movie and for some reason it didn't get pushed out and I just wanna recommend people to watch it cause it's hilarious and where can you find it?
Starting point is 00:14:45 I don't even know. People know how Google works. iTunes. It's probably on some streaming platform. You can definitely rent the shit out of it pretty much anywhere. I don't know where it's for free. But yeah, and all this stuff that people, you know, like female sexuality should be the same as male sexuality. Females should be able to do whatever.
Starting point is 00:15:01 That movie was all that before Blockers. Blockers is great too. Yeah, I was just talking about that yesterday. My friend is in Blockers, by the way. Who's your friend? He plays Jake Donahue, the Asian dude. Oh! Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:13 That's my best friend, Andrew Lopez. Nice. Go see Blockers. Yes, we talked about him yesterday, actually. Really? What'd you say? No, we didn't want to spoil it, but we talked about how he just wanted to get his dance on
Starting point is 00:15:22 with his light-up shoes. Right? And then when he has that scene, and this doesn't ruin anything, when he has his second scene, when he's talking to him, he's being real. It's kind of heartbreaking. Yeah, it is. He's like, have you ever had someone ruin your moment? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:33 You know? Mm-hmm. Guys, check it out. We'll see. Now I'm going to watch it because- Our official review of the Avengers is go see Blockers. Yeah. Oh, I did just see Avengers last night.
Starting point is 00:15:43 How was it? Have you guys not seen it? No, we haven't seen it yet. I was into it. You know, it was definitely not what I was expecting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:50 And it did a good job. It was really funny. The jokes are great. Good jokes. I heard they brought in James Gunn to like help with the jokes. And Taika Waititi, I think,
Starting point is 00:15:58 too, right? Probably, yeah. And they did a great job. Yeah, the Thor movie was funny as fuck. I'm going to rent that tonight. All right, man.
Starting point is 00:16:06 What's a myth? What's something people are saying? As an Ethiopian person, this is a myth that's been going around forever and ever. And it's that Ethiopian people are starving. I mean, we first of all know this isn't true because there's like a whole row. Ethiopian people are starving. There's a whole row of Ethiopian restaurants that people go to. And the joke everyone always makes is like,
Starting point is 00:16:26 Ethiopian food? I thought that was the problem. That's the go-to. But just the idea. I know so many fat Ethiopians. Okay? I can count 12 uncles off top. Every fat Ethiopian is shaped like the dude from Despicable Me.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Yeah, I mean, Ethiopian food is not light. Yeah, well, you can just tell they weren't meant to be chubby because it'll be skinny arms, skinny legs, and then they just are all concentrated like the Despicable Me dude. So all I'm saying is there's lots of Ethiopians out there with a little extra cushioning, and we're not all sticks. Yeah, I mean mean case in point biniyam is has not stopped eating since we've been in the studio so when you hear that shit on the mic he's eating i think pretty much a whole thing of planters mixed nuts before he was having a clementine the man is absolutely not starving before that i had um cereal with some blueberries i mean i don't know if this might hurt our premise because it looks like i was starving before i got
Starting point is 00:17:23 here you came in here and we like, I'm so hungry. Yeah, you came in. You didn't even come up and say hi. I just heard the refrigerator open. I'm like, who's that down there in my refrigerator? That's how comfortable I feel with you guys. Exactly. Yeah, you're welcome.
Starting point is 00:17:35 That just goes straight into the fridge. And it's the family. Absolutely. Yeah, because also, man, like, I had fucking Ethiopian food. It's amazing. Oh, it's amazing. And Jared, like, y'all eat everything with just sourdough flatbread. I mean, it's green, you know, no silverware.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Yeah. We don't have to wash, saving water. Yeah. Also, if you guys want a recommendation for a place to go in Little Ethiopia, I recommend Mesob, M-E-S-S-O-B, or Meals by Gennet, which is G-E-N-E-T. For a non-LA listener, what's just like a dish? What's an Ethiopian dish they should start on? That what?
Starting point is 00:18:05 I would say, well, if you can eat meat, dorowot, which it means chicken sauce, chicken stew. If you can't eat meat, then meserwot, which is kind of like a chickpea stew. Really good as well. Now, what's a bad word you can tell me in Ethiopian? Because I like to get in trouble. This isn't really like a bad word, but it's just like, oh, this is. Like what's like fuck or shit or something? Here's how to say like ass face or ass head.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Like kitras. Kitras. Yeah. Yeah, all right. You got the hard K. You got it. Hey, brother, you know what I'm saying? I listen to a lot of Ethiopian music.
Starting point is 00:18:38 There's a lot of people who can't do that noise. Oh, really? Yeah. Do it again. Kitra. Kitras. Kitras. Yeah, you got it, man.
Starting point is 00:18:46 I mean, look, brother, you know what I'm saying? I'm a half black, so it's in there. It's in there. It's in there. Yeah. All right, let's get into the stories of the day. We're trying to take a sample of the global shared consciousness, what people are thinking and talking about right now in this country mostly, but also outside of it.
Starting point is 00:19:02 And we wanted to just continuing on from a story from yesterday the mainstream media is continuing to uh speak truth to power by criticizing a female stand-up comedian for saying stuff that's way less offensive than the stuff they let most powerful men get away with uh and especially the most powerful man in the world get away with. But we have this statement from Michelle Wolf. She was like, fuck off, I think was her exact statement. Yeah, I just admire her. She was just like, fuck it, man. Fuck you guys.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Yeah, and the White House, of course. I mean, the WHCA kind of walked it back. I mean, like, it wasn't in the spirit of the thing. But you know what? Come on. What the fuck did you expect? You hire comedian to roast people and they booked her with the specific description that she is like the voice of this moment because she
Starting point is 00:19:50 speaks truth to power yeah so like that's what she did and then they were like oh we we wanted this to be about inclusiveness and supporting meanwhile the theme is like celebrating the first amendment what's crazy is she killed for like all of and had so many funny jokes, and the one thing they focus on is she was mean to Sarah Huckabee Sanders because of her makeup, and it's like she complimented her makeup. Right. I mean, that smoky eye was on point. Yeah. The Sarah Huckabee Sanders thing, as much as, yeah,
Starting point is 00:20:18 there were two jokes that might have been about her appearance. The softball thing? The softball thing and the Aunt Lydia thing, which the Aunt Lydia thing is funny as fuck. See, I feel like that was such an inside reference. I didn't like that joke because you had to watch that show to get it. If you have watched it, though, it's funny as fuck.
Starting point is 00:20:34 That did feel like a, that was a coastal elitist joke. Check your Hulu privilege, Michelle Wolf, because I'm out here with no Hulu fucking account. You're going to assume everyone watching, first of all, has Hulu, and then second of all, watched The Handmaid's Tale. It's like so much to me.
Starting point is 00:20:49 That's that Venn diagram overlap. Very specific. But in that room, it makes sense. And I feel like they couldn't have been that offended because none of them have seen the show. No, they just didn't like that they got the smoke and it hurts, so you got to find a reason to get mad. I get it.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Look, you don't know how to take a joke. It's like when you flame the kid at school. It's like, well, I'm the teacher. Yeah, but the media got mad because they also got made fun of. Yeah, and they also need to also pretend like it was offensive too to maintain their relationships, to have access to
Starting point is 00:21:16 some of these politicians. Like, hey, she's our friend. She lies to us every day and then demeans us and belittles us. But we're okay with that. It was so weird to me that the New York Times, like Maggie Haberman even. Yeah, fuck Maggie Haberman. Maggie Haberman, her whole deal is to get, she has to kiss ass to get access. And we don't have to talk about the shit she wrote during the election either.
Starting point is 00:21:36 But anyway. It's May Day. May Day, May Day. Yeah, May Day. Why is that a thing we say when the ship is going down? I don't know, actually. Someone will tell us. Because we're capitalists, man. Oh, man. When the ship is going down? I don't know, actually. Someone will tell us. Because we're capitalists, man.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Oh, man. When the ship goes down, you better be ready. Well, look, these are like rallies that have gone back since, I think, the 1880s, which was really, at the time, was about labor movements and campaigning for the safety for working people and pulling up the trade unions and things like that. And the date, apparently, was chosen as it coincided with the anniversary of the Haymarket Affair in Chicago, where police killed four people at a peaceful protest after someone threw a bomb into the crowd. And today now, it's really about trade unions and human rights campaigners talking about, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:20 just bringing awareness to the struggle of working people and just shouting everybody out because, look, we are the people that make the world go around, not the elites at the top. Right. And it's crazy because around the world, it is lit. Like in Paris, I'm just looking at a photo. They're fucking up a McDonald's. That's not necessarily the point of the protest in how they celebrate May Day in France. But, I mean, there are things going on everywhere. Cuba, Pakistan, Turkey, Russia, Ukraine, Greece, Bangladesh, Hong Kong, India.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Everybody is out here just getting in the streets, talking about workers. Yeah, workers rallies. Why is this the first time I've ever heard of that? Because I'm an elitist cuck, a soy boy. A soy boy? I've never heard of that one Because I'm an elitist cuck? Yeah. Soy boy? A soy boy? I've never heard of that one. Soy boy, yeah. Where does that come from?
Starting point is 00:23:09 That's how the alt-right talks about liberals. Oh, because you're too much of a pussy to eat meat? Right. You eat so much soy and it makes you all feminine, you know what I mean? Soy boy, growing boobs. What's funny is all the alt-right insults, I love them. That's why I'm like, yeah, I'm a cuck, a cuck cuck is just such a good word because it's like cuck like just the way you say it
Starting point is 00:23:31 it's like the only word that's like more satisfying to say than fuck I'm trying to think of like another one that involves a vegan food like no man that actually requires experience with vegan food which none of those people i think have they they don't know about this they just know soy milk so they're like soy boy yeah and
Starting point is 00:23:51 also not to mention because mayday the people in puerto rico are also in the streets too because as we have uh we've mentioned here but we will have to continue to mention the situation has not really improved in puerto rico since hurricane maria hit in september and again we have to remember these are american citizens that we are neglecting now if this was fucking rhode island or connecticut that had no fucking power for however many months oh we would be up in arms but because this is in an island and we're talking about brown people yeah there is not much of an emphasis on their struggle right now. And a lot of it has to do too is because, you know, Puerto Rico, because they're Commonwealth, the mainland government here has basically big daddy done been like, look, we don't have to
Starting point is 00:24:33 figure out how to get rid of your debt. You can't do that alone. So we're going to tell you how to do it. So Congress set up like a financial oversight board, which basically was just going to tell Puerto Rico how to handle their spending. And that basically caused a bunch of protests as well, because it's like just this overreach of our government. And, you know, they're pushing measures like doubling tuition at universities or cutting people's pensions or consolidating government agencies and reforming labor laws. Like it's just a lot of bullshit to save money that really strips away the humanity of the
Starting point is 00:25:04 Puerto Rican. It's like someone's house burns down and you go and you're like, all right, let's just a lot of bullshit to save money that really strips away the humanity of the Puerto Rican people. It's like someone's house burns down and you go and you're like, all right, let's restructure your finances. Right. Instead of being like, yo, man, you need a place to sleep. Right. Exactly. And like, not to mention that, you know, a lot of the struggles of the Puerto Rican economy has been exacerbated by the government over here and Wall Street as well, who is like packaging up, you know, selling bonds and things like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:25 And a lot of people are just saying like, you know, one solution would be like, can't we just like forgive Puerto Rico's debt? Like, I mean, like, what's the problem? The problem is because money rules the fucking world. There is a lot of investors like mutual funds, pension funds. They are basically tied up in a lot of these bonds. So fucking those up would mean losses for some of these people who are these investors. So again, you know, let's just please look at the solutions.
Starting point is 00:25:51 I know some people, you know, want to talk about statehood for Puerto Rico or independence. I mean, those are kind of very complex roads to go down. But at the very least, we need to begin treating Puerto Rico like they are Americans. And not to mention the last time the U.S. bombed their own people was in Puerto Rico in 1950. So this is just a kind of like basic question about capitalism. But why every year do I think nations feel the same way, too, and all companies, you have to post growth and profit. Why can't you be equal each year? Why does it have to be constantly growing? I don't get that. It year? Why does it have to be constantly growing?
Starting point is 00:26:25 I don't get that. It's a good question, man. When I was at Cracked, that was the thing. We hit a level and we were like, man, we're way bigger than we'd ever expected to be. This is great. And then the people we answered to were like, all right, so we're going to project 30% growth. And I was like, no, that actually hurts us and makes us overextend. But yeah, there's no plan beyond just grow, grow, grow, grow. I mean, homeostasis is not an option. Right. It's a constant expansion.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Looking at this when it says like they can't forgive the debt because that would mean posting a loss. Oh, my God. Yeah. It doesn't even mean like an over. It just means probably like a smaller growth. Right. It doesn't even actually mean a loss. There's plenty of money.
Starting point is 00:27:02 But again, because. Negative growth. We are a capitalist country. you know what I mean? That's just how this shit works. And that's another thing, too, is that people like Steny Hoyer from Maryland are talking about, this really isn't in line with the beliefs of the country as a democratic republic, as it were, because we are treating Puerto Ricans like subjects of an empire rather than citizens. And that's another huge thing to look at.
Starting point is 00:27:24 They can't vote either, can they? No. Not in our mainland elections. Not in federal elections, yeah. Yeah. So, again. Yeah, predatory lending is like a dark secret of capitalism. That, you know, a lot of these people who get wealthy are getting wealthy off of the
Starting point is 00:27:43 backs of people who are disadvantaged. Yeah. And I forget, there's one hedge fund or company that owns like 80 or 90% of Puerto Rico's debt. It's like disgusting. And that's like, I should probably research that because I know a lot of people are trying to divest from that company or not work with that company because they're like the ones who also present a major stumbling block.
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Starting point is 00:32:12 and we're back and quick shout out to super producer who is on av club's Podmask. If you guys don't know AV Club's Podmask, it's like a little section where they tell you about some good podcasts from that week. And they highlighted two podcasts, one episode of Ethnically Ambiguous, the one we talked about last week, We Are Syria. You heard it. An incredible episode of podcasting. They also highlighted an episode of the Bechdel cast, which is a great podcast with Jamie Loftus and Caitlin Durante. Foot Queen. Foot Queen.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Jamie Loftus. Oh, I saw that post about that. Who was on that podcast? Who was the guest? Anna Hosni? Super producer Anna Hosni. What? So, yeah. Look at you she is uh and full disclosure all the time anna's like i know one listens to me no one
Starting point is 00:33:12 listens to the show now you got the evidence you've been you doubled up on the write-up on av club but if you're not listening to ethnically ambiguous i have to say once again you should be it's one of the great podcasts being made are you doing currently uh all right guys let's get into the news of the day uh muller his questions for trump have leaked uh it's a list of what 40 50 49 questions 49 questions that the effect these questions had on me it was like almost a reality check where some of the things that i had digested and moved on from like a while ago are sort of put into the context of like a baseline of normalcy like of what a investigation would look like and something like that and just like stuff he has questions about behavior he's like so why'd you do that why'd you fire why'd you fire comey why are you
Starting point is 00:34:03 berating your attorney general in public on Twitter all the time? Just like asking those questions. It's like, Oh yeah, these events that I have just like normalized in my mind are fucking crazy. And like completely the behavior of somebody who, you know, in the cold,
Starting point is 00:34:20 sober light of morning is behaving like an actual guilty criminal. Yeah. I mean, this kind of sucks for Mueller, though, because it just gives Trump. Would Trump already get these? So this is so the way this worked is Mueller sat down with Trump's lawyers and said, here, in order, we want you to, like, have Trump meet with us. So we're going to give you the questions ahead of time. And they read these to them.
Starting point is 00:34:44 And what did they read them though? They told them the questions and Trump's attorneys were taking them down, basically trying to write them down as fast as possible. So people are speculating because of the way the questions are worded. It's not fully legal and there's also grammatical inconsistencies right but so they think that these aren't actually from like muller's list of questions these are uh trump's attorney's sort of version like what they heard well they said yeah because the way that probably happened was that they sat with muller and he just broadly outlined these topics right then that's when they're like okay these are probably the questions that are going to be asked.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Yeah. Uh, but that's why, yeah, the, I mean, again, he's not,
Starting point is 00:35:29 but like, that's, he's not trying to do a gotcha thing. He's just saying, this is what I want to know, man. Like, that's why John Dowd quit because remember he was trying to be like,
Starting point is 00:35:38 dude, we cannot have Donald Trump answer any of these fucking questions because he will self own and just lie his way through this thing and it will be a major fucking problem yeah and i can't even imagine like these are such specific questions like what did you mean when you told russian diplomats on may 10th like prompt doesn't even remember that i bet right like he's just like i mean they're gonna tell him what to say but even if they tell him what to say he's gonna go off book and be crazy he likes to freestyle yeah he likes to jazz he likes to go off top yeah so crazy. He likes to freestyle. Yeah. He likes to jazz. He likes to go off top.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Yeah. So, I mean, there's many ways to, you know, kind of take this in. I think one thing is that it clearly, again, underlines the fact that Robert Mueller, I mean, he's got a plan. We've seen it with the way he's been seeding these investigations in other offices throughout New York and Virginia and things like that. But, yeah, it seems like it's just getting hotter for Trump. And the fact is their defense to these kinds of things is getting worse and worse because Trump's like, well, these just prove there's no collusion or anything. It's like, motherfucker, their question is directly talking about what knowledge did
Starting point is 00:36:39 you have of any outreach by your campaign to Russia about potential assistance to the campaign? Miles is doing very broad hand gestures. I mean, I guess. Interlocking my fingers like Legos. Things like that. He could just be like, I hadn't. He just lie. I had no whatever.
Starting point is 00:36:57 But things like this are so hard where they're like, what did you mean your interview with Lester Holt about Mr. Comey in Russia? It's like, I'm trying to think how his lawyers. You can't answer that in a way that's a defendable position. Yeah, there is no way. Yeah. Trump's response in Twitter was so disgraceful that the questions concerning the Russian witch hunt were leaked to the media. Leaked in quotes for some reason, because he... He's like, don't know how to use those. To me, that means that he leaked them or something. Well, people are speculating it must have been from his side
Starting point is 00:37:27 because they are basically a moron's version of what these questions would be like. So they're clearly not like how Mueller would have written them. Then he says, no questions on collusion. Oh, I see. You have a made-up phony crime collusion that never existed and an investigation begun with illegally leaked classified information. Right. Nice. Also the other one of, it would seem very hard to obstruct justice for a crime that never happened. It's like his idea of obstruction too,
Starting point is 00:37:56 that it could be like, well, crime has to be committed. And then that's when you obstruct. It's like, no, you're, you're trying to avoid justice, so you obstruct it so it doesn't touch you. Yeah, you can't just be like, well, you didn't get me for that other crime, so I couldn't have been obstructing anything. Wait, what crime? In the interview, Robert Mullen was like, I'm sorry, what other crime? Oh, nothing. I'm just saying hypothetically is what I would be doing. Right.
Starting point is 00:38:19 But yeah, he asks him about the Lester Holt thing. It is really just like if you had asked me to spend a month just going back over the details of the case, a lot of these are like the questions I would have had. Like, OK, so that clearly guilty thing you said, what did you mean by that? Just very like open ended. I mean, right now, can we think of a way his lawyers could tell him to answer that? He's like, well, I said i was thinking about russia when i fired him but i was just like thinking about like literally i was thinking about it as i said that not that i was considering that as a motivation to him like i'm saying it was just on my mind yes exactly like i don't know yeah it would be really weird and that's too complex of
Starting point is 00:39:01 a logical dance that's that's a form of logical jujitsu that trump has a white belt in he's not ready to fucking he's not ready to roll russia in the napoleonic wars for some reason that's uh one question so a lot of these are things that he's making reference to things we already knew about but you know putting them in the context of oh yeah these are these are things you would want to know about if you were trying to find out if a crime happened. One question that I was especially intrigued by, he asks, what Trump knew about campaign aides, including the former chairman, Paul Manafort, seeking assistance from Moscow, which implies that there is actual knowledge of some form of contact from Paul Manafort and campaign aides asking Moscow for assistance, which we don't have any evidence of. We don't know of the existence of
Starting point is 00:39:54 any evidence of, but that question implies the knowledge of some evidence of that. Yeah. Again, they must know so much. Because if you look at people like VanderSwan or whatever, that one lawyer and Rick Gates, who lied thinking Robert Mueller doesn't know everything, and he just comes back, he's like, fam, I know you lied because I already have all the information. Right. I can't imagine how close to the chest these cards are that even if with these questions being asked, what the direction of this investigation could truly go.
Starting point is 00:40:21 And really, Robert Mueller really is the only person that knows. I mean, do you think that the play here is that he commits perjury in this interview, and then that's how he takes him out? I don't even think that's going to be the way it happens. I mean, it's not clear what could happen. Yeah. I don't know. Would Congress be willing to do anything? Because their whole strategy is now just make sure the Democrats do not get the House so I don't get impeached. Or an impeachment debate doesn't even begin. What do you guys think of how Comey was like, I don't want him to be impeached.
Starting point is 00:40:54 I want the American people to vote him out so that that's like – Yeah, it's a tough pill to swallow, but it's kind of like there's like a wise dad aspect to that of sort of like let's not use this as a get out of jail free card. Because I think also for people who support Donald Trump, that will give them motivation to begin to cook up all kinds of conspiracies and whatever. Whether he can just be, you know, somehow we can hamstring him by making sure that the Republicans no longer control Congress. And that way there's a better check on his power. That could be a good thing. But yeah, I can also see by letting the process work in terms of voting him out might just be a more, it's like, look, people fucked up and voted for him.
Starting point is 00:41:35 You made your bed, now sleep in it. But at the same time, God, fuck, the stakes are fucking high, man. He's got so many more years to do his fucked up shit. I see what he's saying, and part of me wants to be on board with it. But the other part, too, is like, yo, I don't want to even know what the worst of this presidency could be. And that's the other part of it. Yeah. I mean, you know, I could definitely see a scenario where nothing fully gets done.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Like even if Mueller completes his investigation, but the GOP just refuses to do anything about it. I could see a version of this where he only gets in trouble once the Democratic Party controls both branches of the government basically. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, we'll see. Hey, we'll see because obviously Mitch McConnell, he's not going to – Cocaine Mitch? Cocaine Mitch, man. He ain't going to do shit.
Starting point is 00:42:26 So what was that? So we are officially six months out from the midterms. We talked last week about this weird thing that's happening in the Democratic Party where, you know, the people seem to be extra motivated. There's supposedly this blue tsunami coming. but they're motivated by progressive politics, like the idea of counterbalancing this huge sort of nationalistic, hateful, autocratic wave with a progressive wave. That seems to be where most of the energy is coming from on the Democratic side. That seems to be where most of the energy is coming from on the Democratic side.
Starting point is 00:43:21 And the Democratic Party is this old machine that is used to – the way they determine whether somebody is a good candidate is how much access they have to fundraising essentially. Yeah, just the old, old don't want to do anything party like michelle wolf accurately pointed out the grand democrats not really interested in rocking the boat too much because again there's this fear of that will always happen because there's this idea of like the mcgovern effect that basically the democratic nomination process you know can be if it's controlled too much by the far left, you know, then it's harder to win a general election because it's too far left. Right. McGovern was a candidate who ran against Nixon when Nixon cheated with the whole Watergate
Starting point is 00:43:55 thing. But he got smashed in the election. It was the biggest electoral landslide ever because people think it was because McGovern, the Democratic candidate candidate was too far left yeah and so that that's created this infighting where man the one thing that could actually fuck up the the democrats taking the house is this fucking infighting where they will consume each other in primaries because you will have the dnc or d triple c spending against other democrats who are too far left and that's the problem is that, you know, the people
Starting point is 00:44:25 definitely are receptive to a very progressive agenda. But, you know, I think the establishment Democrats are just like, but we can't mess this up. And oddly enough, you might mess it up by not just going with the flow. Right. But, you know, the good news is it's also happening on the right, too, because Don Blankenshiphip who is like this old mine owner from west virginia who we've talked about who spent four years in prison because he killed 29 people with just uh you know cost cutting and letting his mind be incredibly dangerous even though he had like there were literally 500 uh safety violations in the years leading up to this mine collapse. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:07 And he just actively was like, ignore, ignore, ignore. And then 29 people died. And it's totally on his head. Yeah. And he's going up against Joe Manchin, who used to be the governor of West Virginia. And like the Republicans just hate Blankenship because his his his reputation is just terrible in the state. And they're like, dude, we're going to fuck. There's no way we're going to claim the seat with this guy in there. Recently, this guy, Don Blankenship, has come through with some fire takes.
Starting point is 00:45:35 First, I think he actually related to, you know, so Miss McConnell's wife, Elaine Chao, they're Chinese. And her father like owns a large shipping company a chinese shipping company and don blankenship referred to him as a quote wealthy china person uh really a pc term uh and then recently he started to call like he was saying we need to ditch cocaine mitch uh and people were like what the fuck what the fuck does mitch mcconnell have to do with the yay uh apparently this is tying to a story that was saying that the shipping company that his father-in-law owns was implicated in a smuggling scheme from Colombia to Europe.
Starting point is 00:46:15 They were hiding a bunch of yay on these ships, so that means that Mitch McConnell is now the new yay-o kingpin, which is all it takes. I mean, if Bill Clinton is the new Scarface, then I guess Mitch McConnell is the new yayo kingpin uh which is all it takes i mean if bill clinton is the new scarface then right i guess mitch mcconnell is the new uh frank white i mean just the possibility that story is true makes me like mitch mcconnell like eight times more which just says mostly about how unlikable mitch mcconnell is because he's just such a oh that was my favorite michelle wolf joke of him getting his neck circumcised i Yeah. She was good. I mean, I'm just sitting here trying to imagine him doing a line of coke.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Without his neck getting smeared up the whole line. I feel like he would do it through his mouth. No, he would have to use like a spoon. He can't tilt his head down. His throat would just smear the line. He would get it mixed into a nice pudding so he could eat it. He's like, oh, I prefer to boof it. So an example of the democratic conflict that
Starting point is 00:47:06 we've been talking about is happening in the Georgia primary campaign right now. So there's a woman, Stacey Abrams, who is the former minority leader of the Georgia House of Representatives. She is running for governor right now and they have their primary and she is, you know, this forward looking, you know, lots of popular support. And the Democratic Party has its eyes fixed on winning the white swing voters. She is a person of color and she'll be the first black woman in the nation to be the first black woman in the nation to be governor. Wow. Get in the way of that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:49 And the Democratic Party is like, nah, she's too progressive. We need to win those white Trump voters back. And I actually recently heard a political operative talking about this strategy and being like, get this. There are some people on the left who want to just forego trying to win back the trump voters and it's like no but you don't want to make that your policy is just like trying to focus on like to appeal to them when you have yeah appeasing to white racists because you could just lose everyone right right exactly and like you have this huge wave of you know enthusiasm that you could be trying to surf but but instead you're paddling against it
Starting point is 00:48:27 and trying to fucking get to these people who aren't going to vote for you no matter what, because they have somebody who is just appealing to their basest instincts. Right. And I think when you look at her background, Stacey Abrams, she's a real person. She's not a bureaucrat. She's not a billionaire. The thing that people probably were really yearning for is not like they want an outsider, but they need an outsider of this class of elite people who are entitled. You need people who have come from planet Earth, who understand the value of $1, who understand what is at stake when you lose your job,
Starting point is 00:49:04 who understand what is at stake when you're your job, who understand what is at stake when you're trying to raise a family, if you're a single parent or whatever. So many of these candidates are disconnected from that on both sides. And I think that's really what we, you know, I'm really, I'm liking to see people who are like social workers who are starting to run now because these are people who are actually interacting with the actual 99% of the country who are affected by this. You know, this? This is the bottom of this New York Times article about her where it says, the math is clear.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Black voters are a quarter of Democrats and black women have the highest turnout. Right. I didn't know that. Oh, yeah. Black women are the highest percentage of Democratic voters of their whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:39 People of color have come out in droves, especially in these last couple special elections. I mean, especially when it comes to Roy Moore. Yeah. That was huge and i remember that yeah because everyone was like thank black women yeah yeah because and i feel like the democratic party is just taking them for granted and it's also it's also one of these things but not in the kanye way right they they you know they have to make themselves important. So these are fundraisers, and they are trying to see who can raise the most funds. And so they found this woman, Stacey Evans.
Starting point is 00:50:13 They were like, we'll find our own Stacey. Stacey Evans is a millionaire, so they are running her against Stacey Abrams. A tale of two Stacey's. So anyway, Stacey Abrams is a good candidate. We told you guys we'd tell you about some really dope Democrats. Check her out. And we're going to take a quick break.
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Starting point is 00:52:43 Hi, I'm Maite Gomez-Rejon. Our podcast, Hungry for History, is back. Season two. Season two. Are we recording? Are we good? Oh, we push record, right? Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:54 And this season, we're taking an even bigger bite out of the most delicious food and its history. Saying that the most popular cocktail is the margarita, followed by the mojito from Cuba, and the piña colada from Puerto Rico. So all of these... We thank Latin culture. There's a mention of blood sausage in Homer's Odyssey
Starting point is 00:53:14 that dates back to the 9th century B.C. B.C.? I didn't realize how old the hot dog was. Listen to Hungry for History as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the Biscuits.
Starting point is 00:53:47 I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? I mean, the Boone County Rebels will stay the Boone County Rebels with the image of the Biscuits. It's right here in black and white in print. They lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch is a leader. You choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team? I'd just take all the other stuff out of it. On the segregation academies,
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Starting point is 00:54:41 Whole Foods is partnering with a chain called Yellow Fever what kind of food do they serve Miles? man I don't know I just saw the tagline is like Asian bowls for your soul or some shit this shit Yellow Fever I don't know what the fuck first of all their defense is is a Korean American chef
Starting point is 00:55:00 and she's trying to take back the phrase which obviously is a reference to the fetishization of Asian women, typically by white men, or the terrible disease that will give you jaundice, hence yellow fever. Or like the fact that people will be like, the black, white, yellow is Asian. Yellow is like the one, like people don't say that out loud. Like you'll be like, you're black, you're white, brown, even for Indian people.
Starting point is 00:55:25 But yellow's a weird one where you don't, because it's like weird. Yellow. Right. I don't know. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, the controversy basically started once this Whole Foods 365, the Whole Foods for broke millennials. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Still, you know, expensive. Still way too expensive. But they were basically had in their new Long Beach store in California, they built like one of these yellow fevers inside of the store. And then they tweeted it out like, oh, come check out yellow fever. And people were like, wait, what the fuck is this? Because like, I mean, this place has been around apparently since 2014. And so I don't know.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Yeah. It never really crossed my radar. But yeah, when I see that, I'm sure most Asian Americans too are like fam. This is part of a trend I've noticed in the Los Angeles area. Southern California has some wildly problematic sushi restaurant names. There was one near my house called Miso Fishy. I swear to fucking God. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Miso Fishy. Like miso, like the miso soup. Well, yeah. And fishy, but it was a play on the miso horny line from Full Metal Jacket. Wow. When I was in Little Tokyo, I saw a therapist's office called Miso Sali, and that was really not me. I mean, I mean.
Starting point is 00:56:35 But that's the kind of dumb shit that you would see. I mean, their rationalization is similar to what black people use when saying, like, that's why we say, at the end, we're taking the power back from it, you know. But if we're going to use that logic for this, that would be like if I opened a restaurant called Nigga Soup or something. Would people be OK with that? I don't think so. Yeah. Chickaboos barbecue.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Yeah, yeah. I'm taking the power back. It's like, no, that's tacky. It's weird. And it's your internalized hate is weird. Yeah. Because the same shit we were talking about, even with, like, the black dude who goes to the Trump rallies, who's like, no, that's tacky. It's weird. And it's your internalized hate is weird. Yeah. Because the same shit we were talking about, even with like the black dude who goes to the Trump rallies, who's like blacks for Trump, he called himself Michael, the black guy.
Starting point is 00:57:11 And it's like a way to, you know, you're, you're tapping into like what white people be like, why can't I say that? Well, he says it's okay. So we got that co-sign. And so if you got a co-sign from an Asian person saying yellow fever, then everyone like, well, what's the problem? And I get it. Maybe that's her prerogative to try and, you know, use yellow fever as a way to take back the power.
Starting point is 00:57:31 But like even as a name for food, I don't want a sickness. I'm not walking into a place called. That's fucking gross. Yeah. So is like miso fishy. That's the thing that always bothered me is like you don't want your food to smell fishy. Yeah. Like nobody is like, oh, I want some sushi that smells fishy.
Starting point is 00:57:46 That's some first draft marketing idea right there. And again, it was open for like a year and a half. And again, it shows you, right? Just like the H&M bullshit or these other companies, when this dumb racist shit gets through the fucking pipes, you know there were meetings after meeting. Whole Foods is not just going to be like, oh, that was a decision of this one guy in Long Beach.
Starting point is 00:58:05 No. This went through many layers of approvals and discussions within the company internally. And that shit still got through. No one said, yo, the name is fucked. Right. Yo, full disclosure. Does everyone know that you're half Asian? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Yeah. I'm half Asian. I talk about it. I think most people do. I'm half black. Thank you. African-American. Half Japanese.
Starting point is 00:58:24 How was I? I'm not saying everybody. How you doing? But yes. So we got a person of who is yellow talking about this. Thank you. I'm pulling up for the yellow people. That feels weird.
Starting point is 00:58:34 But yeah, again, it's just this fucking God, like whatever. Cool. Whole Foods. Come on. Sort yourself out. You can do better than yellow fever. Also, shout out to my dad who took the poster image for the Spike Lee film Jungle Fever, which is another about the black and white swirl.
Starting point is 00:58:52 He took the picture? About the black hand and the white hand. Shout out to my pops. He took that picture? That is my father's photo. Holy shit. Jungle Fever. Has he done a lot of movie posters?
Starting point is 00:58:59 My dad is fucking out here. Dude. His art is brolic as fuck. He was Michael Jackson's personal photographer. Wow. Check out his book, Before He Was King, on sale on Amazon. Thank you, dude. Dude, I'm going to. That's amazing. Well, I'll get you a copy for free.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Alright, I have to make my joke. Man, that would be like white people opening a restaurant called Cracker Barrel. Alright, let's move. Oh, hey, there he is. Alright. You should write for Dennis Miller. Good restaurant, by the way. That's a restaurant for white people called Cracker Barrel. Fuck Dennis Miller so hard, man.
Starting point is 00:59:34 But everybody else has made fun of him enough that we don't need to make fun of him here on this. That guy's the fucking worst. Also check out Connor O'Malley's version of Dennis Miller. It's ridiculous. Connor O'Malley's version of Dennis Miller. It's ridiculous. Connor O'Malley's so funny. All of his stuff. Remember his vines? Oh, they're so great.
Starting point is 00:59:49 Did you see his short film that's about like the two guys in Jersey who like go to the casino? I haven't seen it yet. I saw the other one where he's trying to go to Fox News
Starting point is 00:59:56 to get a position. Anyway. This one's so good. Guys, check out the comedian Connor O'Malley. I think he writes for Seth Meyers. He just married Aidy Bryant.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Congratulations to that lovely power couple. All right. And then last thing we wanted to cover, Oreos. What are you guys' thoughts just in general on Oreos? I prefer Hydrox. I kind of stop.
Starting point is 01:00:19 Nobody prefers Hydrox. I don't even know what that is. That's an old proof. Let's see. Let the old men talk about Hydrox over here. So Hydrox is a cookie that looks exactly like Oreos, except like the imprint on the cookie says Hydrox instead of Oreos, and they taste a little bit worse,
Starting point is 01:00:33 and people assume that Hydrox copied off of Oreos. Hydrox was around first. Oreos copied off of Hydrox. Oh, for real? Yeah. I mean, I feel like Oreo just killed them because Hydrox sounds like a horrible chemical. No, it does. it sounds like some shit
Starting point is 01:00:46 you would use to like disinfect a surgical area or it sounds like the enemies of G.I. Joe Hydrox exactly or Small Soldiers that movie shout out to Tommy Jones I mean I like them I used to fucking be obsessed
Starting point is 01:01:02 with them full disclosure the way I would eat them is I would do the deferred gratification where I would just eat the top cookies and then finish off just the bottom half with the cream. So I get that out of the way because I like the cream. I would take the top half off one, do a sandwich Big Mac style. Oh, shit. So it's like three cookies, two creams. Yeah, yeah. That's the perfect amount.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Wow. And then you got that loose one being all sad by itself. I haven't eaten Oreos in like 10 years, so I don't really have anything. Well, let me tell you something. You're about to jump back on because Oreos is coming out with the fucking craziest flavors in China. So the thing was, in 1996 is when Kraft introduced Oreos to the Chinese market. And let's just say it was a total flop. People really weren't fucking with them.
Starting point is 01:01:46 And it was like quite literally Kraft was losing money on literally every cookie because like it was just nobody was into it. So they've had to go back in the lab and figure out we need to tune this up so it's more appealing to the palate of the Chinese people. And so now they're rebranding and the new style is called Jif Jaf. And let me tell you, man, these flavors are going to blow your socks off. Now, the first one. Now, in the advertising, it's weird.
Starting point is 01:02:12 They're giving each flavor a personality. So there's the matcha character, which is calm and zen-like. Then there's a chili flavor, which is a thrill seeker. And cheese is a ladies' man. So I don't know how you're going to start eating cheese-filled Oreos, but guys, brace yourselves. So the cookie is still chocolate? I think.
Starting point is 01:02:33 I mean, I haven't seen pictures. Look at these right here. I'm looking at the, I just clicked through to this, and it has the commercial, and it's like chocolate in the middle is cheese. Let them know. I mean, I guess this, like, I was thinking, is chocolate and cheese a weird combo? But then I guess we have cheesecake that has chocolate on it. So that's not so crazy, but we just haven't seen it.
Starting point is 01:02:51 But it's not like the bite of cheddar. You're not pairing cheddar with a nice Swiss chocolate. It's so chilly. We're way more into sweeter things than I think a lot of Asian countries are in their palate. Oh, no, man. Japan, yo, there is shit out there that I went to diabetic shock eating one bite. For real? Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:11 I mean, desserts are a lady. Koreans do not fuck with sweet stuff. Chili is a flavor. Right. So chili in between chocolate? I don't. It says chili is a thrill seeker. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:21 I hope it's like a chili pepper. You know what I mean? Because I like the spicy. Yeah, the pepper, pepper babe i like the spice with the chocolate babe like o'hawkins chocolate with the little chili yeah but if it's like ben's chili bowl in dc like i'm not eating like a fucking tommy burger with the way the way it looks like in this commercial is like it's like not actually like chili as in like a bowl of chili but like the chili pepper yeah so it's like red or something yeah it's just red and hot all right i mean i need a hot oreo yeah i'll eat spicy i mean i feel like that could have a market here because people love hot cheetos why don't they like hot oreos yeah if they went like red hots like the those
Starting point is 01:03:58 candies that are like spicy like you did that because those no i don't either they're terrible but they did do oreos that were Swedish fish. The filling was Swedish fish. Did you ever try that? I went to this place. Swedish fish. Have you guys been to the Museum of Failure before? Jack, raise both of your arms.
Starting point is 01:04:14 Smile, please. Have you guys been there? Museum of Failure? No. It's an exhibit. I think it's still open. It's over by- It's my childhood bedroom.
Starting point is 01:04:21 It's over on Hollywood Boulevard, like near the mall over there. Highland? Yeah, Hollywood and Highland. It's my childhood bedroom. My mom's house. It's over on Hollywood Boulevard, like near the mall over there. Highland? Yeah, yeah. Hollywood and Highland. It's in there. And they have a whole wall that's just every Oreo flavor. And Swedish Fish was in there. And there were some other ones where I was like, gross.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Yeah, Swedish Fish was gross. But it basically tasted like you put an Oreo in a Swedish Fish in your mouth at the same time. Like they nailed the Swedish Fish flavor. It was just not a flavor that you want mixed with Oreos. Yeah. You do the Red Hots maybe. Oreos are vegan, right? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:04:48 I'm pretty sure Oreos are vegan. Really? Yeah, probably. They probably now are. That's how unnatural this shit is. We have you thinking there might be dairy. Nah, just some emulsions
Starting point is 01:04:57 we cooked up in the lab. Do you think like is there anyone who's vegan who's like, oh, glad Oreos are vegan. They're a big part of my diet. Yeah, because I mean you need to have the ability to just murder yourself with some unhealthy shit.
Starting point is 01:05:10 I love that there's people that are like, just because I'm vegan doesn't mean I'm healthy. Hell no. I just eat vegan. Just don't fuck with meat. Yeah. Biniyam, it's been a pleasure having you, man. Oh, thank you so much for having me.
Starting point is 01:05:24 Where can people find you? You can find me, it's been a pleasure having you, man. Oh, thank you so much for having me. Where can people find you? You can find me. What's that song? You can find me in St. Louis rolling on dubs. You can find me in the club. The one I was thinking of was something like, you can find me on the back. Cause I'm a rider.
Starting point is 01:05:44 You know that song? Because I'm a writer. Soul Survivor. Oh, okay. That song. Anyway, you can find me actually Twitter or Instagram at Biniambiz, B-I-N-I-A-M-B-I-Z. And I'll put stand-up shows on there and stuff so you can check them out. Miles, where can people find you?
Starting point is 01:06:02 You can find me on Twitter and ig at miles of gray you can find me at jack underscore o'brien on twitter we are at daily zeitgeist on twitter we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website daily zeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode uh and we also link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. And we also link off to the song we ride out on, which, Miles, what is it going to be for today? I mean, look, apparently, you know, people are wilding out all over the world. And we're just kind of talking about how the system has got us down in this country.
Starting point is 01:06:37 So I want to play a track by J Dilla off Donuts. One of my favorites actually on Donuts called Anti-American Graffiti. And this one is just a great one. I forget what the sample is. It might be from an Australian group. I can't quite remember who the sample is. But this is Anti-American Graffiti from J Dilla off the Donuts album. And if, guys, you still haven't heard Donuts, sit down, turn the lights off,
Starting point is 01:07:00 and listen to Donuts and know that this man made this album as he was dying in bed. When did this come out? Donuts came out in 2006. So this is a 12-year-old album. All right, we're going to ride out on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. Talk to you guys then. Bye.
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