The Daily Zeitgeist - Musk’s Surreal Scifi Sperm Legion, Patrick Bateman Is Goals? 04.17.25

Episode Date: April 17, 2025

In episode 1848, Jack and guest co-host Pallavi Gunalan are joined by host of Better Offline, Ed Zitron, to discuss… 4 Chan Leak, More Details On What It’s Like to Be Elon Musk’s Baby Mama, Who Do We Blame For Gen Z’s Love Of Patrick Bateman? And more! Vote for Better Offline for the 29th Annual Webby Awards! More Details On What It’s Like to Be Elon Musk’s Baby Mama ‘American Psycho’ Director Baffled by ‘Wall Street Bros’ Still Idolizing Patrick Bateman: They Don’t Realize the Movie Is a ‘Gay Man’s Satire on Masculinity’ The sad, stupid rise of the sigma male: how toxic masculinity took over social media He was created to be a bloody monster. Now he’s an internet hero. Sigma grindset: TikTok's toxic worshipping of Patrick Bateman is another sign young men are lost Why are Gen Z men obsessed with Patrick Bateman from ‘American Psycho’? 25 years on, Patrick Bateman’s unsettling morning routine is normal American Psycho Teaches a Lesson in Media Literacy Know Your Meme: American Psycho / Patrick Bateman Kanye's 'American Psycho' Video And 'Yeezus' Get Official Releases Kanye West Goes American Psycho LISTEN: Yasashi - Slowed by CXSPER WATCH: The Daily Zeitgeist on Youtube! L.A. Wildfire Relief: Displaced Black Families GoFund Me Directory See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

I fell this morning walking my dogs because I was like handling them and there was a giant fucking hole in the sidewalk and I rolled my ankle and I stood up and I was like, I hate this fucking thing. I was like, why are they not repairing the sidewalks instead of like sweeping homeless people? Like it's so, I'm like, In Japan, like they're like, I just witnessed like anytime there was like a little like pothole or something, there was like a team of four guys who just like went out. They like, they didn't have any like big equipment.

They just had like a couple tools tools and a bag of cement. They just fucking patched it up and then went on their way. You know Disney where anything bad happens, there's immediately 10 Disney people right there to clean it up and draw art over it? Yeah, exactly. I want that life. I want it to be like so much in here. It's not that hard. It's just like, you just need to actually invest in like cities and public works and

not let rich people fucking vandalize your entire system, you know, so to prove their point that like everything needs to be privatized. I feel like that's, that's all. It's so nuts. It's so bad, apology. It's so bad. Like, I'm like- How's your ankle? That's terrible. I just kept walking. This spiny- I was like, we're going to finish this fucking walk, dogs.

The man isn't gonna stop me. Meanwhile, healthcare is more expensive than ever. Hello the internet and welcome to season 384 episode 4 of Dirt Island's Ice Ghost. It's a production of Iron Heart Radio. It's a production of Eye Heart Radio. It's a podcast where you take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Thursday, April 17th, 2025. I'm going on four hours of sleep. My name is Jack O'Brien, aka,

Shave off your eyelashes, man, Join a cult with me. I'm so manly and there ain't no test I wouldn't do that one courtesy of Halcyon salad about how all the fellas We're shaving off our eyelashes because eyelashes are gay and they're for girls So that's yeah, okay So Street character When you have to make a cartoon character girl, what do you do?

Bow on head eyelashes, okay, okay I'm feeling you bro Your I rest your case my honor. I'm thrilled to be joined by a hilarious stand-up comedian, writer, actor, improviser, all the things you can catch her on stand-up stages everywhere. Go check her website. And at the monthly facial recognition comedy show, which she also produces, it's Pala What up? Man, I'm so excited to have you here. I'm excited to be here.

Jet lag is weird, probably. I was exhausted all day yesterday and then I got into bed and could not fall asleep for five straight hours. I just imagined you like staring at the ceiling. I didn't do anything. Yeah. So I did- You're like Anya Taylor drawing. Yes. I did the thing that they tell you to do where it was just like, oh, just like get up and do something and then come back to bed. Don't just like-

Wait, they tell you to get up and do something? That's what I've heard. Like rather than sitting there and stressing out about the fact that you're not sleeping, you're supposed to get up and do something. So I went, got up, opened all the mail that had come when we were out of town. So you're stressing about the bed.

Yeah, and then it was stressful. Yeah, it was so stressful. You're like, listen, I don't want to be stressed in bed, so I'm just going to get up and just- Go stress out about other things. Look at my bank account. I'm going to look at rent. Yeah. And then I got this, like, they do a thing now.

I'm wondering if this is everywhere in America. It's all over Southern California where like toll roads that you just like get the toll in the mail. They take a picture of your, that's like, so now it's like a big scam on text messages where like they're people, people are getting texts being like, Hey, you owe this toll. Which North Carolina DOT has been chasing me for 20 bucks a year. Oh really? For a real one? They can try.

Yeah. But anyways, I tried to pay one of those. I'm North Carolina try to pay one of those it timed out to Raleigh It timed out 20 times in a row. I was like god Wait, you is the website a sleep checked for tolls in your honor and then logged into a bright laptop Yes Like I fuck anyway, this is why nothing today is gonna make to a bright laptop today, a toll at like 3 a.m. Anyways, this is why nothing I say today is gonna make any sense. It's relaxing for me.

It's just something I like to do in my spare time, paying toll. Paying toll. I'm a bit twisted. I'm a little fucking sick. From the box of broken toys. Yeah. You could say I'm a rebel.

I relax by being stressed. Anyways, I suck at sleep and my brain is fucking scrambled eggs today. Thrilled to have you here, Paul V. Miles is out on assignment for the day. He's in the field. He's doing research. He's in the field, exactly. He's hunting down stories.

He's at Biden's latest speech. That's right. He's still there, it's still going. We're breathlessly, we're ignoring the Bernie AOC thing, breathlessly covering Biden and Kamala. Do you see Kamala being like, I told you so about Trump. Told us what?

You told us nothing. You fucking knew, everybody knew, you just lost. You just fucking blew it. We didn't want you to suck. Do you think we wanted you to suck? Yeah. Anyways, Pallavi, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a tech journalist and writer behind the newsletter, Where's Your Ed At? I'm the host and creator of the only

consistently good and honest and correct tech podcast I'm aware of, Better Offline. All right. This is what we're calling a call to action. Everybody's currently nominated for a Webby. I'm going to go ahead and demand that you go, uh, go to the episode description. We are going to be linking off to where you can vote for his show because I'm his show is, is the best. He's going to give us a cut of that Webby. He's going to let us have a cut of that shit. I get the top little part of the sp tech podcast. He's gonna give us a cut of that, Webby. He's gonna let us have a cut of that shit.

I get the top little part of the sproing, okay? Yeah. If you do it. But it's, yeah, it's his show and then a bunch of shows that are like the shows that he's explaining why they're wrong and he's right. So you have to go vote for him right now. And my name is?

It's Exitron! I keep wanting to, what And my name is? It's Enzitron! What? My name is? What? Yes. I was at the IHOP podcast award and we met and I handed you $10,000 in cash and then you announced a different podcast of best, tech podcast. First of all, I would not announce that tech podcast. No, what was great with that though is so horrible people at Hard Fork podcast won. But I did get one victory, which was the room, the awards thing was like red light, very like evil looking light. And Kevin Ruse of Hard Fork, who's not very happy with me, he caught my eye and he like full on jumped.

I don't blame him because I was just like grinning at him like, in an evil red light. Yeah. Like the worst possible. And I look good. That's just generally how I respond to British people. You know what I mean? Like every time I see a British person.

Terrifying. And it was the fact I was staring at him. Yeah. That's what you get. I may not win the award, but I really, you'll never sleep again. That's right. That's actually what Jack saw last night before going to bed. Yeah.

Me, British guy. He was staring at me, dragging a slow finger across the room. That's how good your podcast is, is we listen to it even though you're British. Oh, the pigs love it. They love, they love how British I am now. This is a fake accent by the way. Yeah, totally fake. I'm from Modesto. I'm from Modesto.

Beautiful Modesto, California. God, so many tolls going out to Modesto. Anyway. Including the one on your soul. I know. Jesus. That toll was like the fucking ghosts from Scrooge, like coming to wake up Scrooge. This is what your life could be. Modesto yet to come. Yeah. Ed, we're thrilled to have you here. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're telling the listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today. There's a couple of tech stories that I want to hit real quick in case Ed has

something, I'm springing this on, on, yeah, Ed, but I am curious to hear what you think of the 4chan leak story. I did not see this 4chan leak story. Like you're the second person to mention it to me today. I'm like, fuck. Okay. Yeah. I mean, it's not, there's, it's very early.

Okay, plausible deniability, Ed. I get it. I see what you're doing. All right. I have the coat of a dog. I could not hack anything. This is basically an offshoot of 4chan, like that got banned. It was so bad.

Like 4chan banned this sub that they planned and executed a complete hack is what it looks like and leak of like all the information of the users and mods. And there are a lot of gov.gov emails in the database of users. Why would you sign up with that? Some people speculate that 4chan was like a CIA op, which I find implausible. But anyways, that's the story. I don't have a ton of information on that, but I was curious if you had anything on that. There was a 404 media thing about an op where the FBI ran a money laundering ring. Yeah. Hell yeah, they did. No, but there was a guy called Elon Musk, like Elon Musk something on there.

And he was, I think he was from India. Elon Musk Bloomberg. Yeah, it was something like that. But he ran a money laundering thing and they flipped him. Oh, shit. They used him to find, it was an insane, 404 Media rocks so much. They're so good. It is an insane story.

Like the kind of thing that, like It's the kind of thing that people would accuse the government of doing. It is crazy what they did and apparently they were successful. I don't really know. Four or four media is great. We actually met them down in Austin. It's like a small number of people. And they're really cool. I got absolutely blasted after the awards with them. At the... Oh, yeah, of course you won. I was're really cool. I got absolutely blasted off the awards with them. Oh, you probably, yeah, of course you want, I was going to ask why I didn't see you at the.

Oh, because I did not want to go off to losing. Yeah, that makes total sense. I would go and be louder. I'd be like, why the fuck did that guy win? No, I would have, I would have gone up to Kevin Roos and Casey Newton and said, this will be the last award you ever win. And then leave. And then they would be like, what, what, what?

I love the open. Yeah. And I'll be like, you'll find out. And then back out. Not even like walking, just like flow out the door. Oh, that's good. I know so little about the 4chan thing. I spelled it F-O-R-C-H-A-N this morning.

I saw it and then I was like, you know what? I do get laid. Hell yeah. 4chan from Pauly V. For all the chans I've ever loved before. I do want to talk about this Elon Musk story though. It's pretty incredible. Oh, him and his stinky goo. I don't like him. God, he just wants to fucking pull up from the logo and impregnate the whole world. Reaching out to people on X whose posts that he likes and asking to impregnate them is a thing that happens in this article. It's just, you know, it's kind of hard to, like, I have a tough time feeling sorry for right wing influencer, Ashley St. Claire, who is like one of the people who had his,

uh, babies, but like she's the main source in this. She also works for the Babylon Bee or worked for them. Yeah, exactly. So you've got to give her that. They're very funny. So you do a skit so she's good at comedy. So good. Yeah.

No, I get why he DM'd her. She's hilarious. Can you, can you imagine the jokes between these people? So she's good at comedy. So good. Yeah. I get why he DM'd her. She's hilarious. Can you imagine the jokes between these people? Oh my God. The comedy in that room. It's illegal. Two brain cells bouncing off of each other at high speed.

What if it was he, them, but it was also a helicopter, but it was also a network cable. And she's like, ha ha ha ha. Like just joyless. Excuse me. She's the writer. Okay. Let's not take that from women. Yeah. She's brilliant. Oh, he definitely, oh, he definitely was like, can you feed them some ideas? Oh, a hundred percent. Just from a weird sci-fi dystopian perspective, that's really a fascinating read. It's fascinating because they completely accept all of the things that Elon thinks without

just positing that perhaps he's just a disgusting horny oaf. Right. Because that makes way more sense than like, oh yes, I'm trying to populate Mars. It's like, fuck you. No, it's not that at all. He wants to use his power and money to fuck woman. Like he is, he is, but he also just sends them as sperm in some cases, which is interesting to me, that's a good way of delivery.

That's one of the things that Elon responds with people to people. Interesting. You know, it'd be concerning. Two people on Twitter. Interesting. You know what would be interesting? Concerning. Concerning. Interesting.

And then a cry laughing emoji. I, those are his three modes. I, I think it's interesting because yes, the, the thing that would make sense is that he's just trying to fuck as many people as he possibly can, but the fact that he is going about it in a workman, like, like he's just doing the paperwork of getting people pregnant. Like he's just doing the paperwork of getting pregnant. He's also been accused of IVF, right? Like in order to, right? Yeah.

Disused of IVF. Yeah. IVF. What you can be, it's like a DUI. You can get arrested for it. Right. In Texas. Anyways, there's a lot of great details in this article about all this that I want to get to. What's crazy is he has like five million children now, whatever. You never hear about him fucking. Right. Yeah.

This article actually has the first instance that I've heard of about that. Wait, did I miss that? Then I'm absolutely not going to read it. Yeah, they describe it in great detail. Musk oinked like a pig and said, oink, oink, oink, oink, oink, oink, oink, oink, oink, I'm Elon Musk, oink. Ken pig and said, oink, oink, oink, oink, oink, oink. I'm Elon Musk, oink. Can has, uh, I can't have a cheeseburger.

I can't have orgasm, it's really awful. And I hope you say it very often now. I do know somebody who is like dating a billionaire, cross paths with Elon Musk, like Elon Musk was staying at this like rich guy's house and they were coming home to the house and rang the doorbell and like Elon Musk came to the door in a towel and said, sorry, I was too busy fucking.

Ew. To the, yeah, to the young woman who was dating. Definitely not. Eww. Exactly. Like, he was definitely playing, he was signaling the guy. He had someone, he had the same person who was playing Path of Exile, fucking his girlfriend. Yeah, I was literally, he was just signaling the guy.

It's like, can you also have sex while you're doing this thing? What's your rank like? What's your rank looking like right now? He's trying to open the maps to the clitoris. He can't get it open. Some Russian guys being like, I have plenty of sex. Okay. It's just like trying to explain sex to Elon Musk over signal. We'll talk about that. We'll also talk about Patrick Bateman because it is the 25th anniversary of American Psycho. And all context has been like what happened to Gordon Gekko with the like,

greed is good becoming a thing that people are like that. He was right. And that's, that's a, that's my role model has happened to Patrick. Yeah. Somehow a, yeah, it's well, he's part of the greater joker verse. So on Instagram, Mr. Wolf of Wall Street from Wolf of Wall Street, Joker, Mr. Peaky Blinder from Peaky Blinders.

Right. All sorts of jokers. No, no, well, he is one of them, but also, what's his name? Tom Hardy. Oh, Tom Hardy. Yeah, the Peaky Blinders fellas, they love him. Because for a while I used to collect like miss like very poorly translated joker memes, like terrible English and stuff.

Like I just, I have hundreds of them in a folder. Like people have like pornography and gross stuff. I'm just like, Hey, check this out. And it's like a joker picture. Arguably worse. Yeah. It's like this, like I'd be more likely to scare away a woman with the Instagram things, but with those, there is like this weird branch of like guys all saying

the same quotes, like, uh, enjoy being alone. It's a superpower and shit like that. Yeah. It's hilarious. But the Patrick Bateman's those have been there for a while. Yeah. Yeah. It's fully gone.

Like all the context is just, oh God. Yeah. Yeah. I message one of them. No. I message one of them. No, I message one of them, one of the Joker meme accounts because they like to call, I had this theory for a while. The, they, well, many of the accounts are called Mr. Villain and I was trying to, I did like a full investigation to find out if

Indian guys thought that that's what the Joker was called Mr. Villain. And I, I was never able to, cause had one guy who was like, that's Mr. Villain. I'm like, do you really think that he didn't respond? Another one said, oh, it's Joker. Right. Kind of like a child correcting you. Let me just message my MAGA cousins. Right.

Ask them what they think the Joker is. Burning skeletons as well. They love the skeleton ones. I mean, those are cool. Just burning skeletons. It's the same quotes across all of them. Sick. Like it would be like a big skeleton burning.

They're just hate home depot, which is based actually. Yeah. It's so strange. And I don't look at them anymore because I used to post them and I like had fun with it and then people just got racist and I was like okay I'm laughing at this because they're trying to be profound and they made a typo not because of them not knowing English like this isn't fun. I love the Joker memes for the racism actually and then the typos really threw me off. Yeah I do it for pure reasons and now I put

this energy into the tech industry. When you talked about the fact you collecting poorly translated joker memes, I pictured that wing in Bruce Wayne's mansion, like where he has all the ancient Japanese. All of his fat suits. It's me regarding them. Interesting. You have a wing of your mansion that's just poorly translated, jokermemes.

Anyways, let's actually take a quick break. We're going to take a quick break. We're going to come back and get to know you a little bit better, Ed, and get into Elon Musk's weird procreational habits. We'll be right back. And we're back. And Ed, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?

So Rob's, it's lyrics, Rob Sonic meaning. So I've been listening to Rob Sonic. Lyrics, Rob Sonic meaning. So I've been listening to Rob Sonic meaning. Yes. So Rob Sonic is an excellent rapper. However, I've been listening to him a lot and I sent it to my mate Casey. I'm like, Oh, what'd you think of this? He goes, the lyrics are nonsense and they are. And the first result is a Reddit post being like, do these mean anything?

And people being like, I don't think so. And it's like the phrases mean stuff, but together they do not. So it was like reading that and being like, I don't think so. And it's like the phrase has been stuff, but together they do not. So it was like reading that and being like, am I stupid? Am I just like, am I, is this like cocoa melon for like white boys? Like what is, and I still listen to it cause Rob Sonic fucking bangs. Cocoa melon for white boys. I love that. Yeah.

I'm not familiar with Rob Sonic, but have you gone to genius and like watch people try to ascribe meaning to entirely people just being like this one phrase means this and this one phrase means this literally this is what it means. Yes, like this is it. I respect it because it's so fun to listen to. And I found him through ASAP Rock, who is an excellent rapper. And lots of like fun word play that would, that is fun to look at on Rap Genius. And one of their best, one of the best Rob Sonic songs is Killjoy, which has ASAP Rock on it. I cannot recommend it enough.

All right. We'll check that out. Uh, what is something that you think is underrated? So, uh, about two weeks ago, I had like a minor breakdown. Like it's like, I was just like called a friend crying. Like it's the normal way. Uh, and I need more friends crying by the way. That's underrated.

They look the only way I call friends. My wonderful, beautiful friends were very much there for me, but I was like, I hit burnout and one of my anti burnout measures. Cause I found myself just like forcing myself to like listen to music with how I felt, just to like reinforce a feeling. So I've been listening to albums through the whole way. That's my under-eight thing. I think people really need to like sit down and say,

I'm gonna listen to this thing front to back and like see what I think. I've done it mostly successfully. Like I've listened to a few like In Flames Clayman, Rob Sonics album, I can't remember the name of Like how would I possibly append meaning LPs I'll sleep when you're dead absolute banger incredible Then I listened to the Blur's great escape and that album does not hold up at all There's like four or five really great songs and a lot of stuff where you just like oh

I didn't listen to this album through. You know what? For a reason. I just have, I'm actually not going to say that. That would have just destroyed my mentions for the rest of my life. But there's a- Say it. So for a long time, Kendrick Lamar's Good Kid Mad City,

it has the highest highs of Kendrick's albums. But I just went back and listened to it all the way through. And there are some dead spots that I had totally forgotten about. I'm going to burn down your house. I'm going to burn your house down, Jack. There are just a couple of dead spots that I had totally written out of my memory. I have one album that I just consistently listen to all the way through, and it gets better and better every time,

which is Blonde by Frank Gush. Not a- I can't stop listening to that album. Yeah. Wait, are you okay? Are you mentally okay, Jack? I don't think so. I think there's something wrong.

In my case, no. One album I will recommend that I don't think so. I think there's something wrong. In my case, no. One album I will recommend that I don't think anyone else will have mentioned, but if you like jazz, Charles Mingus's Black Saint and The Sinner Lady is one of my top three albums of all time. And I have not sat down and listened to that all the way through in like 12 years. And I was like brought to tears by it. It's fucking incredible.

But yeah, this has been like a, I've really been avoiding doing it for no good reason. Just like listening to music to poke my brain, to feel better rather than enjoying it. And it's just been, it's been lovely. Been really enjoyable. We just had yesterday's guest, Jodie Avergan, who releases a new podcast every week, like a new entire different podcast every week.

Has a new show called Winter Albums, Summer Album, which is you go through and talk about albums. From that perspective, you categorize them, which I thought was a fun way to think about stuff. But we're an album podcast these past couple of days, talking a lot about albums. I agree with this though. Yeah, I'm a dork though.

Like I, yeah. All my- Have you, have you read Questlove's Mometa Blues? No, I've heard really good things. It's so good. He has, it's like an autobiography kind of, and it talks about like from when he was like a toddler on, but like every chapter is interspersed with like letters to and from the Roots manager.

And then also with all of his recommendations of albums from that year. So from when he was four or five, the albums he would recommend from that year and why and how they're ranked. So every year of his life, he has album recommendations. Hell yeah. Somebody has to have a list of those online somewhere. Ed, what is something you think is overrated? Feel like I might've said this before, I'll say it again, In-N-Out Burger fucking sucks. I don't give a shit.

Okay, do you guys hate LA? No, like- Kendrick, In-N-Out Burger. Also, one of the albums I listened through fully last week was GNX, it's fucking brilliant. It's so fucking brilliant. GNX is great. So this is, what I was saying about Kendrick is basically- You are- Me too. Fuck, that's awesome. I this is what I was saying. Going to his concert. Is basically, you are.

Me too. Fuck. I'm going to Beyonce and I'm going to Kendrick. I'm going to Kendrick, but I've got like seats as well. So I'm going to be sitting in the set there with my arms folded. I love it. Lovely. Tapping my toe.

I was saying, like, Good Kid Mad City compared to the more recent Kendrick albums that I've been listening to more consistently. I was just like, this might not be my number one Kendrick album. Okay. So you hate black people. Is that what you're saying? Basically what I'm saying is I'm living in this. Is it the white supremacist podcast right now?

Is that what you're saying? Basically, that's what I meant. Beyonce is mad. Did I just hear you say that? She's mad. She's mad. I think Kelly Rollins better. Is met did I just hear you say that? I was mid I think can you tell me wrong better? I actually remind me the other day though. I I Trump everything's horrifying right now, but I will admit I loved really hard at being a show here tiny I was like, oh god, this is the only thing I did.

It was your best. Oh, yeah, my toe. The best fucking soundboard. Like just if that guy could just be a soundboard, you know. Yeah, he was just like a an Access Hollywood reporter. Right. Oh, my God. Can you imagine that's like a Jane was the fellow from Saturday like live made that joke on like a talk was the fellow from Saturday, like live made that

joke on like a talk show. He was like, got the cucks. Courtney. Oh, James Austin Johnson. Yes, exactly. He is so good. He, so I was doing open mics with him and then he went to SNL. Do you guys have you seen the, so when Trump was running for president the first time,

I was at cracked and Cody Johnson was obsessed with like, Donald Trump had a YouTube account that was, that was full of videos with about like 300 views per video of him just going direct to camera from his office in Trump Tower, just being like, Robert Pattinson, you got to dump. Oh, yeah. You got to dump. Yeah, he tweeted about it too. Right. But it was just, it was like wildly unpopular and it was just him like popping off with

his pop culture takes, which is like all he wants to do. Like that's all. We failed him. We failed that man. If it's literally his, like Hitler getting rejected from art school was like this failed YouTube. There were thousands of videos over the course of like years that had no views. Like, and he's one of the most famous people in the world already.

He just sucked at being a YouTube person, like a YouTube entertainment commentator. Yeah, exactly. It's so wild that like he, this person who everyone's like, he's just got great instincts for what he couldn't even launch a YouTube channel. Yeah. And I would have loved a gossip show from him. Like that would have been great.

Like that would have sold everything. Him and Wendy Williams, if they had a podcast together, I would lose loved a gossip show from him. Like that would have been great. Oh my god. That would have sold everything. Him and Wendy Williams, if they had a podcast together, I would lose my mind. One of his best tweets was the sissy Graydon Carter one. Was that his Oscar? I need to find this one. Oh yeah, he was. So Graydon Carter, the former editor in chief of Vanity Fair and like kind of New York it guy. He's like, he goes and gets dinner with Lauren Michaels all the time.

Like that sort of like New York. I'm going to read this out. Sissy Graydon Carter of failing Vanity Fair magazine and owner of bad food restaurants has a problem bad food restaurants, bad food, his VF Oscar party is no longer hot and hot is in quotation marks. And this is an incredible post. I think when he was president. Yeah. He was just being fucking devastating.

Right. He's so saucy. He's so real. He just wants to say, I'm saying so transparent. Just like so transparently willing to just be obviously like mad at these people. Like this was, I think the night that the Oscars were said something mean about him. And then he comes back and is like, this party that I could never get invited to is lame.

Like that's the thing that would offend Graydon Carter, right? Graydon Carter the idea that the Oscar party was not hot Would actually be the kind of thing that would offend a socialite rather than any other insult, right? And I think that his appeal is partly but he's so obviously and bittered about every single person who's been routine ever Yeah, it's so catty and childish about it. Yeah, that appeals to a great many right-wing people. It's true. They just usually keep it to family court.

Yeah, that's right. All right. We're not even going to get to your in and out takes. The in and out, I don't know if you've said it before. I will say that, oh my God, Ed has an adorable puffball. To avoid the in and out takes. Oh my. It is the number one, probably overrated that we've had on this podcast was people. I'm so, I just had it again recently and I was just so underwhelmed.

It's underwhelming unless, like the thing that I think is great about it is the price, like it's a good price for what it is. It's okay. You get it for the same price as a McDonald's hamburger and it has like fresh lettuce and tomatoes on it. And like the, so. But I also don't get McDonald's because it's fresh. Right. I gotta be, I gotta be honest.

I don't eat in and out cause I'm vegan, but I do have anger towards you not liking it because of LA Brite. I'm just like, nobody should eat meat, but also, fuck you dude. Look at the little hats and the lines you're going to be in. I might have mine who's a LA journalist as well. I posted about going to a restaurant called Hamburger America in New York. You'd be shocked when they sell hamburgers there. And he got so angry at me for saying it was one of the best burgers.

He was like, no, you're going to come to LA. And he listed me all of these different food restaurants. Tom is. I'd never heard of. Food restaurants. Food restaurants. Worst food restaurants. One of the very bad food restaurants.

Hamburger America's not good enough. Hamburger America sounds like something another country would make to make fun of us. You go to Sri Lanka and this is what McDonald's is called. Or something Trump would be like, we won't take disrespect, we're hamburger America. He's eating at Hamburger America. Total fucking mafia shell company. That's what he thinks that McDonald's is called.

Yeah. Yeah, that's like Hulk Hogan,ogan hamburger America, like just feels too- That's George Motts though. He's cool. I like Hamburg America. Nice. All right. Hey, speaking of American things, more American than apple pie, Patrick Bateman, the American

psycho himself, folks. It is the 25th anniversary of American Psycho. That's how I measure all time, actually. I'm like, how long has it been since American Psycho? It's 25 AP, 25 years after American Psycho. But yeah, so apparently it was a movie and a book before it was a creepy incel meme generator. And I've read the book.

It's all, I've read the book. It's all the, I've watched the movie. It's all very transparently satire, but it's, it's being embraced by actual Wall Street bros, uh, by a lot of incels online, uh, despite the fact that Christian Bale is very clearly making fun of them. This is like when Colbert, like he was popular with Republicans and Democrats, you know? It's like people are just dumb, dude. People are so dumb. I will say American Psycho, I watched it.

I did not know it was a satire. I just thought it was like a thriller where a man was horrible. Right. It's like the same thing happened with Neon Genesis Evangelion. I watched it when I was a teenager and I didn't get that shows apparently about depression or something. I was like, damn, these robots are fucking cool. And like, I'm like, this is so cool. There's all this weird talking shit that I'm just going to choose to ignore.

Yeah. Maybe Rob Sonic does have legitimate lyrics. You just don't just really, I'm just like, I lack like some part of my moving images and sound of a cognitive issue where I just can't understand things. Bro, go to a doctor or something. I remember watching American Psycho just being like, Oh, that was horrible. Yeah. That was, I, wow.

He hurt that guy. Yeah. I think I didn't know enough about Wall about. I can't believe a Wall Street guy would do this. Yeah. I think I didn't know enough about like, I was too young when I watched it because I'm so young and beautiful. And like, I didn't know exactly what it was like back then, but looking back on it, you're very much like either this is satire or this is like not a good guy, not someone you aspire to be. Yeah, I definitely didn't come out of it being like, he's like me for real.

We're just built this way. My life's like a movie and that movie is American Psycho. My life movie, Oh Brother, Where Art Thou? One thing that I had like, I hadn't, I haven't seen the movie in a long time, but now I'm recalling that a big, the book will spend an entire chapter writing rapturously about Genesis and their latest pop album and go into deep detail about his facial routine, his about his like facial routine, like his, you know, skincare routine, which is now like so it to like re experience that part of the satire. And it's like now gone so mainstream. Like he, he wakes up, he does 1000 crunches. He does like a one hour long, nine step skincare routine. Okay.

This does not come across in the movie. I feel like that's just... Wait, that's like Ashton Hall, that video of that guy. Yeah. Exactly. It's just what influencer, like, manosphere culture is. Get ready with me to murder a bitch. Right.

So you actually have to wake up at 3 AM. 1000 crutches.000 crutches. You have to wake up at 3 a.m. and drink water that costs $8 a bottle. And hand it to you by a person. Yeah, a person. I just embodied service. We're going to need at least 10,000 of those. Thank you.

But it sounds like the book does a much better job of explaining how much of a ridiculous character he is. And I don't remember the movie doing that. Like it had very like, I think it would be worth rewatching because it's pretty. I had the exact same experience when I was younger and I was like, wait, I don't like this guy, but it's about him. This sucks. And I was, I'm British.

I'm very much used to not liking anything, let alone the characters. Right. So it's very much like, I was very like, oh, an anti hero. Like this is a right. Yeah, this is like, like this is I can understand that this guy is a bad guy, but he is the main guy in the thing. Americans see a character they're like, rich, good guy. Yeah. Exactly. Smart. He's my friend, right? I really think they have a tough time. We have a tough time disconnecting like financial success from worth. Like we just have to be like, that's who I want to be. And he does have nice shit and he does look like objectively he does have sex. But like while he's having sex, he's looking at himself in the mirror and flexing.

So he has self-respect. So he looks sick. The cool, in quotes, kids at my college were lacrosse players. And I always was like, just had this cartoon image of them as just being these psycho, bro, weirdos. Then one time my senior year, I happened to get drunk with one of them and go hang out with them afterwards, and they put on American Psycho and just started talking about how cool Patrick Bateman was.

Oh my God. Wow, you guys are actually the thing. You're the thing that I've been cartooning. I was hoping there weren't that many people who truly believe this, but that makes sense. This was a long time ago. This was a long time ago too. But still. I mean, the number of incel dudes or the number of people that we're worried about in Gen Z,

it's just getting worse with these alpha male influencers. So it makes sense that they would take these characters. It's like, it's like, it's a combination of everyone. I mean, it's not helping, but also like the, like the matrix thing, like getting red pilled, right. And like how the people who made the matrix were like, this is not what we intend at all. I love it because the red pill, red pill thing is like, did they stop watching the movie when he took it?

They're like, okay, now let's switch to my favorite romantic comedy, American Stakeholder. Yeah, yeah. And then he became Patrick Bateman and he is also The Matrix and Mr. Equilibrium. Yeah. Now there's a movie. Equilibrium. Oh yeah. Gun Cata. You've never seen.

Oh, I've seen the shit out of that one, man. I saw that. That's a real. Oh, I haven't seen that. It's so dumb. It's like a dumb guy version of 1984. I think they read the Cliff's Notes of 1984, right? They didn't actually read 1984.

What if we had no emotions? I bet if we watched it now, it would still be better than like a lot of movies. Yes, it is actually kind of an aesthetically interesting movie, but the plot is basically like, what if we all didn't have emotions, but then the guy kind of did? And what if he also did gun kung fu? What if guy did? So the whole thing is, Pallavi, the best way to actually fight someone is not pointing a gun at them and shooting them with the gun. It's actually doing kung fu with a gun.

So you have to like, yeah, yeah. So yeah, that's the Batman method. Okay. We, if we love the Joker, you're like doing the moves with the gun. You have the gun in your hand. So it's moving around in weird directions. Guns don't kill people. People kill people.

Gun kata. People kill people. Gun kata? Is that the name of the art form? Gun kata, it's actually called gun kata. Yeah. And it's so dumb. It is funny imagining a fictional time

when all the men in the world are heavily repressing their emotions leading to great violence. I don't know. What would that be like? What would that be like? Yeah. You'll never know. I guess everybody be wearing weird turtlenecks and doing gun kata because you can't imagine

it happening in our world. Honestly, you're really selling the movie for me. The part of me that loves Fight Club is really into what you're pitching right now. Had I seen it when I was nine years old, it would have changed the trajectory of my life. You would have been getting drunk with them freshman year watching American Psycho. All right. Let's take a quick break. And when we come back, we will get into Elon Musk's weird repopulate attempts to repopulate the earth. We'll be right back. we will get into Elon Musk's weird attempts to repopulate the earth.

We'll be right back. And we're back. And so I think we're all aware that Elon Musk has like too many children with lots of different people. Just give me three more children. Just, I just need three more. Come on. He is.

I just, if I get three more, I won't take over the world. I promise. So right now he has 14 children that we know of. And this article says multiple sources close to the tech entrepreneur said they believe the true number of Musk's children is much higher than is publicly known. So 14 is the very low end estimate. And like he, if I was me on Musk child, I would not go on a first date without getting genetically tested.

I'm scared. He's just, they're all Elon Musk's children. We're all, we, I find out I'm somehow Elon Musk's child. Yeah. He, he has Genghis Khan numbers in his eyes. Yeah. He's like Genghis Khan, except he doesn't really, the only way he takes over things is like by just throwing money at them versus being strong in any way. Yes.

Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. It's the, it is the them versus being strong in any way. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. It is the equivalent of being strong now is being a billionaire who- Even if he has tripled the amount of kids, that's the drop in the bucket to the amount that Genghis Khan's- Don't give him any ideas about buckets, okay? That's next on his list of how to approach this. S this sperm by mail, sperm in buckets.

I do just want to talk about that though, because so his whole pitch here that this article kind of takes at face value is, I'll just, so this article is partially an interview with Ashley St. Clair, who is the right wing influencer who he started dating, got pregnant. And then immediately was like, I don't even know if that's my kid. And like, you can't say it's my kid. And she was like, what are you talking about? You specifically like said, I want to make you pregnant, got pregnant. There were text messages of them talking about it. Exactly. Like just so obvious. It also like introduces this new character who's like Elon Musk's bag man,

like Elon Musk's Michael Clayton. Yeah, this Mormon guy. What's in the bag? Yeah, he's a Mormon guy. What's in the bag? What's in the bag? It's come. It's come. But all right, so I just want to read some of these segments from this Wall Street Journal article. Musk's baby-making project is relevant to his ambition for NASA, which he wants to move faster to go to Mars. He said on X that making people multi-planetary is critical to ensuring the long-term survival of humanity and all life as we know it. In

Musk's dark view of the world, civilization is under threat because of a declining population. He is driven to correct the historic moment by helping seed the earth with more human beings of high intelligence. Why print this, according to people familiar with the matter. Musk refers to his offspring as a Legion, a reference to the ancient military units that could contain thousands of soldiers and were key to extending the reach of the Roman empire. So just get an awfully eugenicsy up in here. Why legitimize any of this nonsense? Why not just say Elon Musk claims this and then just be like, this doesn't make any.

Yeah, they do not. This doesn't match how legions are built. Hold on, let's hear about. But go to like a Roman. What if he DM'd them this on Twitter because they were replying to him? But the thing is, you could, the way to, and running a PR for myself, knowing a lot about the media, the way to actually do this would call a Roman Empire expert. But call one and be like, is this resembling any kind of legion?

And just sit there and break that instead of just like printing exactly what he thinks and trying to romanticize his horny bullshit. Instead of just being like this weird guy with a lot of money loves getting random woman impregnated. And it's definitely how you say that. I liked it though. Impregnated. Aluminium. And like he just does this and then has this weird Mormon guy, which they kind of get into,

but they just they legitimize it. They act as if this is a rational thing versus describing, if you described a random guy you knew, it's like, yeah, my buddy Steve, he has 15 children. He's got a lot of money though, but he says he's doing it because it's like the Roman Empire. You'd be like, this Steve guy sounds insane. But because it's Elon Musk, who sounds insane already, you're like, well, that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. It's that idea of like journalism is not hearing someone say it's raining outside

and printing that it's looking out the window and determining if it's actually raining or not. Exactly. Yeah. I just, later on the article, it says speaking to an audience at an investment conference in Saudi Arabia last year, Musk laid out the urgency of the matter. I think for most countries, uh, they should view the birth rate as the single biggest problem they need to solve.

If you don't make new humans, there's no humanity and all the policies in the world don't matter. So I just want to, because the big unspoken thing in this article is that the global population is going up and continues to go off. This idea that we're running out of humans is just a white supremacist trope. And also what we meant to do with all the fucking kids, you've shut down every social service. Right, exactly.

Also, you're fucking killing Palestinian kids. You're assisting in that, and that's okay because he said most of the country so he probably doesn't acknowledge them as a country or like the people. It's so infuriating to watch this shit. I like it makes me so mad when people talk about like it's in a similar vein of like religious fanaticism about like saving people beyond like people who go to like remote islands to try to convert tribes and like accidentally bring disease. That is so much better than this. I know it's like on a large, it just, it's the arrogance and the ego of like,

I'm better than that. It's so stupid. I don't think he believes any of this shit. I don't think he's fucking having, trying to have sex with woman on Twitter and impregnating them because he believes he's repopulating the world. He's at this, he's once the sling is goo using his power and status. Woman accepted because it gives them financial stability. I keep hearing you say woman.

Is that a British thing? Or is that referring to the woman who are being impregnated? I know. I just, I just was hearing it. Instead of like women, women, women, women, women, have sex with woman and have sex with woman. But this is something you see with all of these tech fuckwits where it's you take them and you say, oh, the reason they're doing it is the is the they want to do Roman Empire Legion shit and that is a big there's a big rational thing.

Instead of saying we have multiple different people who are billionaires who is the they want to do Roman Empire Legion shit and that is a big, there's a big rational thing. Instead of saying we have multiple different people who are billionaires who say insane stuff and we accept it on face value. Instead of saying this guy who has all of this power is acting insanely erratically. Well he has money. So he must be right. I know he's right. Exactly.

He's like Patrick Payton. The Wall Street Journal published towards the end of last year his alketamine thing. I don't know. Have we ever tried having two thoughts at the same fucking time? I can't do it. That's why I listen to Rob Sonic. But the thing is, it's just infuriating because when you actually read the things they're saying and listen to the rationalizations, they are completely irrational, completely.

If you had a regular person say these things to you, you would say, you are actually like, I'm concerned about you. If a regular, these are right-wing talking points, but I don't even think he's that nuanced. I think he's just like things like, I would love to have him. It's a power thing. It's a power thing. It's a dominance thing. He's just doing it to a woman.

And the rest of the story, you can kind of see with how Ashley St. Clair was treated, that he starts using money and starts reducing the amount of money that she would get from him for his fucking child, because she won't sign an NDA. And it's like, it's not about the kids. It's not about the kids. It's not about the impregnation. It's about power dominance and control and to show that he can do this.

This is a guy doing a very guy thing by dressing it up in the trappings of history and strategy. Yeah. It's an insult to the intelligence of the reader. Well, I guess maybe not with the amount of people that believe this shit. Yeah. So I do just want to like emphasize the global population is going to keep increasing until mid 20 eighties. The only thing which climate change will take us out when he right when he taught like according.

Yeah, this is this is according to the UN but it's probably not taking into account how many people are going to die from climate change caused by people like Elon Musk. But when you are talking about, whenever somebody talks about the population, like a population decline problem, they are like talking eugenics because the population is going up in Africa and India. Like just, it's going down in white skinned countries. That's all they're talking about. It's eugenics that that is essentially, I like to sing eugenics like by men and

no eugenics it's, it's fucking wild. And it's incoherent. I think it's pretty coherent though. I think it's just like, when you take the different, like it's coherent in the sense that the Nazi ideology was coherent. When you take his Nazi salute, the fact that he's really worried about population decline when the only thing that's declining is like the population in some Countries like with white people like and the fact that he like I just feel like we're not far from him suggesting

Sterilizing people from like, you know, like I wouldn't be surprised if he's already working on it I like I would not like it feels just so straightforward that this is just what- It is. Which is kind of why I think dressing it up in the trappings of strategy is so insulting because it's like, if you just describe it as what he is saying lines up with this, this, this, and this, that's an honest read. But when you start talking about it, you start taking his ideas at face value, it doesn't make sense. The reason I mention the Roman Empire thing is not just to be a dick, it's, you know what, you're gonna do a legion?

What is a legion? How is a legion structured? What is the purpose of the Roman- That had war strategy. Why did a legion exist? What was the alternative to a legion and different things? Because a legion would- are they even a colonizing entity? I'm just- I'm being pedantic because this is the shit he pretends he knows, but he very fucking

clearly doesn't. They're all like this Altman, Amadei, all of these assholes. But that's like what right wing logic is. Like if you look at even like from a financial perspective, which I hate doing because humanity, but if you look at things from like a compassionate perspective of like human empathy, it lines up with what's best for the economy, with what's best for financial stability across the board. But because people don't want to do that, people in these upper classes would rather just bleed dry everyone and not care about the longevity of their generations coming up or anybody's or the earth. They don't give a fuck about logic. So they have to work their way around

it and pitch it the way that they want to. But if you take care of unhoused people, it's less on the healthcare system for them to go to the emergency room a bunch of times. You know what I mean? It all lines up. You've got a legion right there. Yeah. And also legions apparently have legionaries. So there's 10 cohorts. Like the real thing to be like, Mr. Musk, do you have a cohort? Are you building a cohort right now?

What's the plan? Seriously, I know it sounds ridiculous. These guys have never been faced with questions like this. Like just basic questions about anything they say. This is good guy obsessed with the Roman Empire versus bad guy obsessed with the Roman Empire. Every man is thinking about the Roman Empire. This is the first time I've thought about the Roman Empire since the last time someone brought up that literal point because someone asked Jensen Huang of Nvidia out on stage.

And I must say say that's a fucking stupid question. You should never ask a person that ever. It's so stupid that these fucking see I'm just doing a random fucking podcast, aren't I? It's just like no one ever asked them actual real questions. I'll stop. One of the, because he actually comes out and says it here separately, Muska said he is concerned about what he called third world countries having higher birth rates from the US and Europe. A person familiar with the conversations said one of the most important ways to change these dynamics, he has repeatedly told people close to him, is for educated people to have more children. Like that's-

So fucking evil. Education isn't hereditary, you absolute fucking ghoul. It's just a matter of opportunity and by concentrating global wealth in the hands of like you and a bunch of like emotionally destroyed sperm babies that you like gave birth to and then abandoned and like tied their moms up and like fucking legal Quitting like court cases like you're taking away money You could be donating to help millions and billions of people who already exist get more educated, but he doesn't believe they're capable. He's just straight up.

Even in his mind, though, even if that's what he actually believes, that education is the most important thing, Palestinians are like one of the most educated groups of all time because of their attempt to survive. So like him not lending humanity to them already inherently undermines his point. Yeah. Yeah. But he doesn't really see them as human. Exactly.

That's what I'm saying. Like that's how it gets around that. Yeah. It's also interesting that he's like, so like he, I do just have to, Musk offered his sperm to Zillis and the two have four young children together. So this is, this is not somebody, this is just somebody he is mailing. Please, please ma'am, would you like my sperm?

He's just pulling up from down, from long distance and impregnating, you know, just like through the mail, he's impregnating these people. He's like, Kobe! Yeah, exactly. Like a 50 cow. Chef curry with the wrist. But he talks about how this is all about his project. And to your point, Ed, about him being like,

this is all me just trying to create the smartest fucking babies in the world. He also just will hit people up on X. Yes. This is a direct quote from this Wall Street Journal article. Well, I must post sometimes dozens of times a up on X. Like he, this is a direct quote from this Wall Street Journal article. Well, must post sometimes dozens of times a day on X about right-wing politics or his companies, among other things on his mind, he often interacts with lesser known users.

He replies to them and sometimes interacts through direct messages. Some of whom he eventually solicits to have his babies, according to people who have viewed the messages. Most fuck boys are like you up. He's like, you Nazi. Fuck. Follow up questions. You ovulating.

Genics. You Nazi. Eugenics. You are. The three Elon Musk questions. What's great though is, well, not great. Probably the opposite is I imagine it's not great just hearing from him in these like because he's already proven he will just fucking destroy people. So it's like the the come

eye of Sauron upon you like you like if you're an attractive woman and he DMS you you know that this ends with like his nasty girl being brought up at some point and you're and if you say no I imagine he will have a perfectly rational and calm response. But like, if he will be able to destroy you. So if you say yes, if you say yes, there, first of all, he, there's a chance that once you're pregnant, he'll be like, sorry, ain't mine. And then you have to like, that's what happened with St. Claire. She had to get a paternity test after he was like, I want to get you pregnant.

Like we're going to build a Legion of babies. And then once she was pregnant, he was like, not sure it's mine. Uh, so she had to get you pregnant, like, we're going to build a legion of babies. And then once she was pregnant, he was like, not sure it's mine. So she had to get an eternity test. It did say it was his. But then, so you say, yes, there's all these like legally binding weird things that happen to you. And then he tries to move you down to a compound with his other baby mamas in Waco or in, sorry, it's not Waco, it's Austin, but it might as well be Waco. He's forcing them to drink the coca cola. I love that you said Waco. What an incredible

phrase. It's not far from Waco. Yeah, it is a sex cult. Yeah. So this is from the article. I do just want to... So Birchhall is the name of the Mormon dude who is like his Michael Clayton fixer, kills people probably for him. Allegedly, I just made that up. Don't sue me. Burcholt was involved in acquiring the property for a compound in Austin where Musk imagined the women and his growing number of babies would all live among multiple residences,

according to a person familiar with the matter. He is involved in other property deals across Musk's different businesses. Zillis lives in the gated community with their children, and Musk comes and goes. Musk also attempted to get Grimes to move to the compound, but she refused. Similarly, he tried to get St. Clair to spend some time in Austin with their kid legion, in quotes, according to a text he sent her. Birtchell said on the December call with St. Clair, the NDAs are necessary. We have been through way too many issues where to not sign some agreement associated with handing over $15-plus million is absolutely insane and irresponsible, blah, blah, blah. He added that his boss cannot allow people to just go and share his life information.

He is the biggest lightning rod on the entire planet. When Burchall told St. Clair that other mothers signed similarly secrecy agreements, she observed that they didn't seem happy. Zillis, Burchall said, goes in and out of finding contentment, but Grimes wasn't ever going to find true happiness. Just the whole, you all move onto a compound and then I criticize your ability to find contentment is it's real like guru shit. It's real like, yeah, I feel like you give a man too much power. And this is

where it always fucking ends is them on a compound. It's done with the harem of women where he's like trying to impose his spiritual beliefs on them. Yeah, I've never been more grateful to be not white than I know. It's just she wantsansiles is kind of an interesting character because she was at Neuralink and she's just kind of like, yeah, fuck it. Sure. I'm gonna need you on. Yeah. Yeah.

Fuck it. Yeah, I'll be there. I'll meet the PM of India. That was, she met Modi. Yeah, she's in the picture with Modi and their four kids. And on some level, I'm sure it's terrifying and she's trapped and it's horrible, but on some level, I bet she's just like, yeah, fuck it. I'm set for life. Nothing will happen to me. I mean, I worry about the kids. Like, I feel so fucking bad for the kids.

Even more normal than any child has ever been. Well, Vivian, his daughter who is trans and who's been like estranged from him is like really fucking smart and really cool. And eloquent as well. Like 20, which is so nuts. So if she can get away from that whole scene, then I hope that his other kids will not just grow up to be evil. I mean, he's not giving them the money to be an evil overlord, so maybe they'll avoid it. I also don't think, well, because he doesn't appear to have introspection of any kind, money to be an evil overlord. So maybe they'll avoid it, you know?

I also don't think, well, because he doesn't appear to have introspection of any kind, I don't think he realizes that a lot of these children will grow up and read these articles and be like, wow, my father is cool. He'll be on Mars. So cool. Yeah. He's like Patrick Bateman, my other hero. What the fuck? What do you mean? My dad, how many brothers or sisters do I have? Yeah. No, that's what I mean. They interview some of his current adult, over 18 children.

And they're like, yeah, I have no idea how many half brothers half sisters I have. And it's weird, weird world. They don't seem to love them. But I'm sure it'll be good once he has total control over them. Do you remember that article that came out when he like got divorced and then I think got with grinds or somebody? Yeah, like it was it was I think it was yeah, because it

was his ex wife being like this typical billionaire bullshit and like standing up for herself and stuff. And it feels like that being married to her, which I don't know her politics or anything like that, but I'm like, you know those guys who are married to women and then they get divorced and all their weird comes out? The women were the only things holding back. They're like a damn holding it back from the rest of the world. That's what it feels like. Yeah. I imagine that no amount of divorce or marriage could have stopped his weird coming out.

Yeah. It's just that the entire worldview is that the world needs more people like him, the people who are destroying the planet as we speak and fewer of every other type of person. And it does feel like he's going to invest money to continue to try and make that happen. So it's, which is wild. Yeah.

No, it's truly like, I don't know. It looks fine. This article was kind of, even though it takes a lot for me to be, there's no like one detail that I was like, well, I didn't see that coming, but it does just like overall paint a picture that I feel like if I read this 10 years ago, I would be unable to like believe that that's where we are. Very strange stuff. I just want to print this and mail it to Kara Swisher and ask her what she was doing up until 2023 personally, but this is the kind of thing where everyone who pumped up Elon Musk, I want to be like, Hey, what do you think of this? How'd you not see this coming?

Thoughts? I mean, Half-East woman didn't see him coming either. She just puts it in the mail. Eugenics? Says that eugenics. Hmm. Didn't see that one coming. He just puts it in the mail. Eugenics? Says the eugenics. Didn't see that one coming. That one being Elon Musk.

Ed. Bet it's quick. Sorry. What a pleasure having you on the show. I love, I genuinely look forward to this every time. It's so fun. It's the absolute best. Where can people find you, follow you, vote for you, all that good stuff?

Go to betteroffline.com. Don't know if I'm winning the Webbies, but I'm trying. I think Scott Galloway has done an election fraud and I'll be doing some January 6th shit if I don't win. This is going to be a stop the steer. You are in second right now. Just to put people... Also shout out Molly Conger, weird little guy. Who is winning.

She well deserved. Shout out, Molly Conger, weird little guy. Who is winning. Is in first place right now. And, but still go vote for Molly. But Ed is in second. It's within striking distance. You need to go vote. Let's vote. And if you don't win, I'm putting out an episode, which is just called the Webby headquarters

is at the following address. Not really. No, don't give them a reason not to vote. Don't give them a reason. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't want to do any January 6th shit. No, don't give them a reason not to vote. Don't give them a reason. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You don't want to do any January 6th. Shit.

Yeah. I mean, is there, uh, is there work of media that you've been enjoying? Oh, work of media that I've been enjoying. I've been watching Jojo's Bizarre Adventure. Okay. It's an anime. Um, it's so strange. I know you probably worked that one out.

Uh, it takes like two and a half seasons to get good, but when it gets going, it's truly amazing. I cannot describe it. It's so strange. You should watch it with the dub. Now there are anime fans watching, listening to this. It will say that's a horrible thing. The dubs are the single worst accents I've heard in my life.

I can't, the British people are obviously like American people who have never met. They're like, Oh, hello, mate. I'm so triggered right now because I keep watching movies, TV shows and like British people are just out fucking acting. Every American there is and it's so devastating. Yeah. I'm like, I'm watching adolescents right now. They're killing it.

It's crazy. I know. It's never good watching the British succeed. Trust me. Well, I think it's because you guys are chameleons from stealing all the cultures occasionally, like a British person will complain that like an American is stealing something like that. I don't know.

I've heard in America say bloody recently. And that's that. No, I say because of the Indian side, but that's because of British people. Like all the books I read as a kid were like Enid Blyton and like we had, we used to have Monopoly and it was like the British version. And so I'm like fondly looking back on my British memories from my Indian childhood. Yeah, I, Britain fucking sucks. I'm so glad I don't live there anymore. Fucking anyway betteroffline.com you can find my podcast in my newsletter PR firm and all that good stuff. There you go. Please subscribe

Pallavi it's wonderful having you as always. Thank you. Where can people find you follow you as their work media you've been enjoying I'm at Pallavi Ganalan P-A-L-L-A-V-I-G- L L a B I G U N a L an everywhere. I am going to be at my show on Friday at the Comedy Store at 10 p.m. Facial recognition comedy and also all my Texas heads. I'm coming to fucking Austin. I'm coming. I'm trying to come to Houston I'm coming to Dallas, Texas May 25th. I'm headlining Dallas Comedy Club. I need Zeit Gang to buy every fucking ticket out there. Please, please buy tickets. Tell your Dallas friends to get tickets.

If I offend them, at least I sold out one time. You know what I mean? It's fine. And if you go, all of you will reveal who shot JFK. I will. I'm the only one with access to the real files. Yeah, I'm field reporting from the JFK. I can actually tell you, so you can actually do that.

Okay, great. Excellent. The work of media I have been watching and rewatching is Jeff Bezos face planting after they returned to Earth yesterday. I want to watch that again. It's the karma that we all hope for. After they returned to earth yesterday It's the karma that you know, we all we all hope for It's really good to watch a billionaire I fell over I fell I. You stupid fucking rich bastard. You can't beat gravity, can you?

What a laugh. That's great. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien on blue sky at Jack OB, the number one. I liked this tweet from a guy named Greg at Greg one six six seven six nine three five four two zero who said I was doing laundry today and came up with this idea. I'm wondering why it doesn't already exist. And it's just a washer that goes on top of a dryer. And after the washer is done, the clothes just drop into the dryer.

And then, I was like, wait, what? Wait, what? This is just like, back from Japan and seeing like, a coin sorter on the house. Exactly. Like this is some shit that Dale has. Like, I'm like, what? Wait, what? This is just like coming back from Japan and seeing like a coin sorter on a bus. Yeah, they'll have had in Japan for 10 years before we find out about it. By the way, the toilets in Japan, like we have these, you know, people are like, oh, they're so weird. They're just so much better than anything that we have here. I have a beautiful Japanese bidet.

Good for you. And it's the best. Oh, God damn. I was thinking that today, like, I was like, do landlords know how much a functioning washer and dryer like improves the lives? And I'm like, they do. They just don't give a shit.

Yeah, they don't give a fuck. Yeah, well, wait, wait. You pay them to exist in there. You don't pay like, what, what, you expect them to do shit? What? Every time we see a landlord, we're just throwing ones at them. We're like, yeah, baby, just to limit your life.

Thank you. Thank you. And then I like to tweet from Clara underscore SJO, who tweeted, computers used to scream out in pain when we connected to the internet. This was a warning and we did not heed it. You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist.

We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram and you can go to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it and you can find the footnotes, which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. With Miles out, we'd like to ask super producer Justin Connor if there is a song, Justin, that you think people might enjoy. Yeah, I've been searching for more instrumental music to DJ, and I came across this slowed-down version of a track called Yasashi by Casper but with an X instead of an A there and it's got this saxophone riff that immediately grabs your attention

But then it has this like bouncy synthy beat behind it It reminds me of like a video game menu music But really slowed down like if you had drank a bunch of lean while playing Sega Genesis or something It's really really cool. So this is Yasashi Slowed by Casper and you can find that in the footnotes. Just drank a bunch of lean. Dare me to play Sega Genesis. M&M songs are on my brain today.

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