The Daily Zeitgeist - My Good Friend Zohran, Kilmeade Hostage Statement/Apology? 09.16.25

Episode Date: September 16, 2025

In episode 1931, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian, Mary Houlihan, to discuss… Racist Policies Bad For Investment? Fox and Friends Host Apologizes For Suggesting That The Government Should ...Straight-Up Murder Unhoused People, Gov. Kathy Hochul Endorses Zohran Mamdani and more! Racist Policies Bad For Investment? Fox and Friends Host Apologizes For Suggesting That The Government Should Straight-Up Murder Unhoused People Suspect in stabbing of Ukrainian woman in North Carolina charged with federal crime Charlie Kirk's killing sparks firings and outrage as reactions expose deep divides Kathy Hochul backs Zohran Mamdani in race for New York City mayor Kathy Hochul: Why I Am Endorsing Zohran Mamdani New York Gov. Kathy Hochul apologizes for using Canada-Hamas analogy in defending Israel Cringe Cuomo Attack on Mamdani LISTEN: Mágica by El Michels Affair & RogêSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Oh, I think. Pick up this ganged in the mandem run. Oh, hey, Mary. Hey. Hey, hey, sorry. You caught us in the middle of our, we like to pretend we're English rappers for the first 10 minutes before the gas comes in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:19 We. That is the most. I think you guys have it in you. Thank you. You think so? Yep. Mary didn't even hear the fucking bars, dude. I'm always.
Starting point is 00:00:30 saying this. I'm always saying, you know who'd be good British rapists? Mary, you think we could be British rappers? Mary's a saint for encouraging men to rap in public that's always good. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:45 The one place that you like to give back. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, hey, I have the shook ones instrumental on my phone. I can play this right now. Any time. At any time. You just have it queued up as like a button you push and the shook one's instrumental starts playing. Dude, that I used to have a folder of, like, I had a CD in my car that was just instrumentals to freestyle over.
Starting point is 00:01:07 That's how, like, that's how intentional your CD burning had to be where you're like, oh, put in the freestyle thing, because we're getting high, and I'm going to subject you to my terrible rapping for 20 minutes on a first date. And that's what's wrong with young men today. Exactly. Thank you. Exactly. That's what we talk about. I don't know if you've heard, but that's what we talk about on this show is what's wrong with young men today. I think it's, yeah, there's no audience for our freestyle raps.
Starting point is 00:01:34 I mean, honestly, there was that one far right politician who I think that was what was wrong with him. He was like secretly a Soundclad rapper. Yeah. Not secretly. He was like kind of trying to go out in the open with a terrible rapper. Anyway, Mary, how are you? Thanks for joining us. I'm pretty good.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Okay. Have you listened to the show? Do you kind of, you kind of understand the vibe here? Yeah, I know the vibe Okay You guys are news guys But you're funny Yeah, yeah
Starting point is 00:02:04 Damn Never Nailed you Never heard it say With such a few words But so Yeah, yeah No, it's really
Starting point is 00:02:14 It's really complicated To get, guys It's news But you guys are funny I don't know I've been trying To wrap my head around it Yeah
Starting point is 00:02:25 This is an I-Heart podcast. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slemmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row. How does someone prove that they deserve to live? We are starting the recording now. Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life,
Starting point is 00:03:03 on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? Answer, a new podcast called Wisecrack, where a comedian finds himself at the center of a chilling true crime. story. Does anyone know what show they've come to see? It's a story. It's about the scariest night of my life. This is Wisecrack, available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you want to hear the secrets of psychopaths, murderers,
Starting point is 00:03:44 sex offenders? In this episode, I offer tips from them. I'm Dr. Leslie, forensic psychologist. This is a podcast where I cut through the noise with real talk. When you were described to me as a forensic psychologist. I was like snooze. We ended up talking for hours and I was like, this girl is my best friend. Let's talk about safety and strategies to protect yourself and your loved ones. Listen to intentionally disturbing on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the psychology podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about how to be a better you. When you think about emotion regulation, you're not going to choose an adaptive strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good
Starting point is 00:04:27 outcome avoidance is easier ignoring is easier denials easier complex problem solving takes effort listen to the psychology podcast on the iHeart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts hello the internet and welcome to season 406 episode two of dirt daily's egg guys It's a production of iHeartRadio. It's a podcast where you take a deep dive into American Shared Consciousness. And it's Tuesday, September 16th, 2025. Woo. Wow, what a day.
Starting point is 00:05:01 It's National Waccamol. Sorry, Guacamole Day. I always meant to pronounce that. National Working Parents Day. National IT Professionals Day. National Step Family Day. National Play-Doh Day. National Cinnamon Raisin Bread Day.
Starting point is 00:05:15 National Voter Registration Day. And Mayflower Day. Okay. Yeah. The flower, or is there a thing called a May flower? Or is it? I only think about that as the ship that my ancestors came over on. Yeah, just looking for a new place to goof around.
Starting point is 00:05:33 And it worked out. It worked out. No, I think, no, I don't know. I just know April showers bring May flowers. That's the only thing. That's right. And I'm a botanist, so I know. I didn't even realize that the pilgrims had bars like that.
Starting point is 00:05:47 This is also a national hungover from celebrating Prince Harry's birthday day. You know what I'm saying? No, I'm not. Nope. Nope. I'm sorry. I can't. I can't drink for his birthday anymore.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Not like I used to. Happy belated. To you. And unto it. And the Duke of Sussex. The Duke of Sussex. Yes. My name is Jack O'Brien, aka Potatoes O'Brien.
Starting point is 00:06:15 And I'm thrilled to be joined as always by. my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Oh, Miles Gray, aka shitty jeans are on my body. I fridge them up to tip off mustard stains, but the stink will never wade. All right, shout out Mr. Fist for that one. We were talking about people just putting their jeans in the freezer when they have fancy jeans. Just can't get behind that because what do you do about the stink and stuff? Just not how that works.
Starting point is 00:06:45 chip the actual stands off once they free. Just get a chisel. Yeah, like you're carving marble. That's right. Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a very funny comedian and writer who's written for outlets such as a local publication, The New Yorker, that I think, I think I've heard of that one. Oh, I've heard of that one. I can't even get, oh, man, can't even get through them every week. The cadence of them are too many. I have to pretend I know what's in them. Cover to cover. Yeah. every single week. I get it all.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Wrote and starred in the fictional soap opera Enchanted Pumice for Chris Gether presents animated music videos for Z-Way. Just like all-around talent, I think, is what we have on our hands here. Twitch screen. Please welcome to the show. Mary Hula-Hia!
Starting point is 00:07:34 Hey, guys, what's up? Oh, what's up, Mary? What's good? I'm so exhausted from celebrating Prince Harry all yesterday. What did you do to celebrate? I drank a whole keg. A whole keg? Right to the dome.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Yeah. Whilst doing a keg stand the whole time. That's right. That was pretty incredible. So you saw the picks. Okay. I popped the top and I put a garden hose in like a straw and I just drink it like that the whole day. Of course.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Got to. Got to. Oh, what a day. I just watched the wedding on Loop. Yeah. The whole time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:13 I mean, Megan is such a... The Duke of Sus, sex. Such a beautiful bride, he has. Such a beautiful bride. Tears her. Also, shares a birthday with one Miles Gray, but we're not going to get into that. Don't need to get into that. Born the exact same day.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Mary, we're thrilled to have you here. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners, a couple of things we're talking about. We're going to talk about how those ice raids, the tip of the spear, the tip of the spear in terms of weaponizing. Maybe the tip of the sphere. Mathematically nebulous. Yeah, has no tip in weaponizing white supremacy in the United States. Apparently not great for investment we're finding out.
Starting point is 00:08:52 So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about Brian Kilmead, who straight up had to apologize for suggesting the government should murder unhoused people. And then, you know, he's, he was just like, okay, sorry, I guess, and got away with it. Meanwhile, people who did not. their proper respects for Charlie Kirk are getting fired around the country. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about Governor Kathy Hokule, who has endorsed Zoran Mamdani. It has proven that it is possible for a centrist establishment Democrat to endorse Zornemadani for mayor of New York City.
Starting point is 00:09:36 I wonder what's going on. So we'll talk about that. And all of that, plenty more. But first, Mary, we do like to ask our guests. What is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Okay, I took a couple of things. Ready? Yes. Okay. I ain't mad atcha sample because I was listening to A Dream by DeBarge and I wanted to know what song I was listening to.
Starting point is 00:10:02 And you're talking about the Tupac I ain't Mad Atch? Yeah. Okay, wow. Okay. So a Dream by DeBarge is the I Am Mad Atch, you say? example. Yes, yeah. Okay. Okay. Next up to bat. That's it, right? Just fuck. And we're going to get a takedown notice because I nailed that so hard that it sounds exactly like. It sounds too on tune.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Okay. Birthday to friend glitter gift. Oh, birthday to friend glitter gift. It's your friend's birthday. And Boeing assassination, because I was like, wait, whatever happened with that. Oh, like one of the Boeing people, like, wasn't it a whistleblower who like was killed himself in his truck or something? Yes, it was a whistleblower and they had been harassing him for like over a year and then he finally killed himself. Which I'm no lawyer, but it sounds like they're at fault. No lawyer, but I might want to look into that on some level. Yeah. And has there been any development?
Starting point is 00:11:06 Because I remember, didn't the guy who died's lawyers? say something in the aftermath, being like, uh, he was being harassed for a long time. Yeah. And then it just, and now the story is gone now. He, wasn't he at a trial where he was like about to testify or am I making that up? I get most of my news from the Hindustan Times. So. Yes, thanks.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Yeah. A little sensational, a little sensational that outlet. Yeah, I remember that seeming fishy and just the vision of the scene from Michael Clayton. where they, like, bust into that guy's house who's, like, been deemed problematically bad for the future profitability of the corporation and just, like, very quickly inject him between the toes with something that's going to kill him and then sort of quietly leave. And they're, like, so workman-like about it. I don't know why it made me think about that.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Yeah. I don't know. In the days before his death, John Barnett had been giving evidence in a whistleblower lawsuit against the company. Hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yep, yep, yep, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Okay. Seems normal. Seems very normal. Massive company that's also involved with making war machines to just... Nothing to see here, babe. Nothing to see here.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Nothing to see here. God. Yeah, that's... It was funny. Recently, I flew, like, on an airline that didn't have Boeing airplanes, and I was like, oh, this is a good one. Right, yes.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Like Airbus. Thank you. No, just more like the connotation, Because remember, remember there was a while when we were, like, taking Boeing planes and we would text each other, like, I'm getting on a Burling 37 or 737 max eight or not whatever the thing was, like pray for us. Yeah. It's raining bolts from the ceiling. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Yeah. It's a slight drizzle, but, yeah. Well, I'm glad that we've stayed on top of that one and proven that evil is not profitable in these United States of America. What, Mary, is something you think is underrated? Oh, my goodness, something that's underrated. Well, okay, here's the thing. I was looking at your guys' doc, and you guys were putting joke ones.
Starting point is 00:13:15 I put a real one. Is that okay? Yes, please. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I also like that you thought that my very serious one was a joke one. Didn't you put stairs? Well, we'll get to stairs. Yeah, yeah, that's me.
Starting point is 00:13:27 That was yesterday's episode. Sorry. You read too far, and we never tell people where to stop reading. Okay. Someone that I think is underrated is, Dina Hasham. Do you guys know her? Yes. She's so funny.
Starting point is 00:13:42 She's, well, she's actually not underrated because she has like 100,000 followers and she writes at the Daily Show and she's very well respected. But I just think she should be bigger. So she's underrated. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where should people go find Dina Hashra on Instagram or what's the best? Dina Hashem underscore. Yeah, go on Insta.
Starting point is 00:14:05 you guys have maybe seen her most viral joke was Republicans are con artists but Democrats are con artistes. So she's very funny. I think she's the perfect comedian for the moment. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We need more of that because there's too many comedians who are just being like,
Starting point is 00:14:30 do I need to go to Austin to learn how to be on Kill Tony and which is the apex of irony? I don't know. I feel like that would be good for my career maybe. I don't know. I want to go on Kill Tony. I would love to have you. I actually emailed someone this morning and said,
Starting point is 00:14:49 I'm going through Austin. Could you pull some strings so that they take me out in the bucket? So I hope they say yes. What would you do if you're on Kill Tony, you think? What's like your dream? How does your dream set on Kill Tony go down? I would be a meanstress. I would be mean, but I'd be so, so funny that they'd have to feel like they're in on it
Starting point is 00:15:12 or else they would look bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They'd have to hand it to you. Because that thing also happens or like someone actually is funny and then they just start attacking them. Like, you know what I mean? She's like, this person's actually fucking funny. I'm just going to start talking cold so much shit about it.
Starting point is 00:15:26 I mean, like, what the fuck is this show? Like, what are they doing? I watched my first episode yesterday. So I'm kind of an expert on it now. I've never watched shit. I think I understand the premise to be that a comedian goes on and they just start like trying to interrupt their set and like talk shit. It's like American Idol in the first couple episodes where all the singers are bad. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Yeah. But so they get up and they can do a minute. And then there's like a whole panel with other comedians or some celebrity. It could be Rick Flair. You never know. And then they're like, oh, that fucking sucked, dude. You should fucking end your life. after this it's just like it's always a shit like that and then they basically can roast the other person but it's just like so fucking mean spirited you're like this isn't helpful to anyone and it's not like real it's or the the comedians who go up are just like more open micers or are they like real comedians who they're oh well i guess it's a mix but it's a lot of open micers and people who i should say established their loved ones should not let them perform in front of an audience that size yeah sure
Starting point is 00:16:32 That's where we're at and they're doing it nonetheless. And then we're all laughing at them. And that's what's funny about it. I mean, but you could get on SNL like Cam Patterson did. Yes, the dream. The dream. The Kill Tony to SNL pipeline. Of course.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Now that that's, it used to be UCB to SNL. And now it's Kill Tony to SNL. Yes. Now all the NYU grads are trying to get on Kill Tony. The Tisch mafia, the Tisch school mafia. And I'm like, we've got to move to fucking Austin. And his role on it was just somebody who sat there and made fun of people trying to be comedians. Yeah, because he's like the roast guy, you know, that's, he sees himself as that.
Starting point is 00:17:14 But in like recent years, like his ability to do that to become less and less, like, you're like, this guy just like sucks and just saying like wacky shit. So the episode I saw, he was really, really mean to the people. And Shane Gillis and Matt McCusker, they were the guests. And it was like every single person, Tony would be like, you should kill yourself. And then Shane Gillis would be like, um, actually I think you did kind of good up there.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Yeah. Yeah. Sort of an angel devil situation where Shane Gillis is the angel. Bizarre world. Yep. It's the best that we can hope for, Shane Gillis at this moment. And has anybody ever gone on and just, like been awesome and like just like kind of surprise actually I'm a good comedian and like
Starting point is 00:18:09 fuck you guys yeah so it's it pretty much is just a rip off of American Idol because it'll be like a bunch of bad people in a row and then one person that they're like wait a second yeah this person knows how to write a joke taking their glasses off looking at each other yes exactly this kids got it yeah damn man this person could be an anti-trans comedian in Austin. They play their cards, right? Yeah. Cool.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Well, I'm glad. Thank you for that because now I don't have to watch Kill Tony. Tim Heidecker just put out a spoof version. If you want to see that. There's one that he just posted called Kill Timmy, if you want to see that. That's how you know you're really doing the right thing when Tim Heidecker destroys you in a perfect parody. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:56 What is something you think is overrated? Bravo. I'm going to get assassinated for saying this. You're from New Jersey, Mary. Be careful. The Manzo's might hear you. Blood is thicker than water. Yay, there you go. So, you know, I've watched, I've watched housewives. I've enjoyed some housewives. Same. Oh, my God. She said that with tears in her eyes, you guys. I just want to be clear. I can't help but notice that we are low-key living during fascism. I don't know if anyone else has noticed. Many have not.
Starting point is 00:19:44 So I'm glad you're saying this. So sometimes when I watch TV and the people on it are just like mentally ill, drug-add-addicted, white-collar criminals. I'm like. Sometimes when I watch it. maybe they could do a little something more with this platform maybe i think it's just this is our i think bread and circuses phase of the fall of the empire where like our circuses are like just the obscenely just off the rails reality tv that's just on where people like this is a normal person on this yeah this person like has anger issues and a drinking problem i feel like for a while i've been
Starting point is 00:20:27 being more of a bitch about like you guys need to cast this kind of person you guys need to cast this kind of person and i think people don't understand that i know that noam chomsky can't go on bravo i'm not suggesting that but a reunion episode could be sick if you had give kathy griffin another show have like a voice for someone who's like an honest bitchy person. I think they should do that instead of all drunk white collar criminals awaiting trial. The only people to identify with are mentally ill drug addicted boy. You know, fucking Galane Maxwell is in the prison with Jen Shaw. Yes. They're in that same prison. It's her and Theranos home girl. Elizabeth, what's her name? Elizabeth Holmes. Holmes. Yeah, yeah. All of whom would make
Starting point is 00:21:25 sense on Bravo. Yeah, for real, exactly. Yeah, even Galane Maxwell. And they would just be like, oh, look, we have socialite Galane Maxwell. You're like, that's how you're going to describe her? That could have entirely been happening in the background of a real housewives. Like, she could have been a character of Real Housewives and they just would have yada yada past like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Where's Jeffrey? I'm throwing a party for Jeffrey. In the lower third, Galane, Socialite. Socialite. Friend of financier. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Oh, Jeffrey, her boyfriend, he's so well.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Fee. Everyone just, they want to know his secret. They have such a weird on again, off again, relationship. The tension is so thick. He cheats on her all the time. I've heard. I've heard. It's like, what? And that's just happening in the background. Yeah. So I don't mind if they keep the shows like that, but I think they should add like a Kathy Griffin show or I mean, those, the I've had it ladies. I believe they originated from Bravo. Wait, who are the I've had it ladies? Oh, you know them. You just. don't know that that's their name. It's those two blonde ladies who are like leftists and they look like Republicans. Oh, yes. Yes. And they love Pathan Piker. Jennifer Welch and Angie pumps Sullivan. Yes, pumps.
Starting point is 00:22:43 What a great nickname. They're killing it right now, aren't they? I feel like that show. Yeah. They're doing fucking numbers. I feel like that. Come on, Andy. like this is this is who you need to be going after they originated on bravo they're they're
Starting point is 00:23:00 telling it like it is why why not give me one good reason why not i guess now it's like they have more the power right it's like why would they want a cable show where they're probably like making less than what they would make on youtube or patreon or whatever they're using exactly exactly that's fair so it's interesting to be in this time now we're like independent going independent in a few different like industries actually is the more lucrative thing where it used to be like you got to get on a you got to get on TV you're going to do this you're like I'm making money from substack actually right now and that's working great for me they're like didn't you yeah I used to work at the Washington Post but I left because it sucks don't you want to make less money and not
Starting point is 00:23:44 be able to say the truth yeah exactly have your articles whittled down to nothing by a room roomful of editors who are here to just absolutely obfuscate. Yeah, yeah. Also, mentally ill drug addicted white collar criminals is, like, who does that not describe in the current power structure? I feel like every leader in the country, everyone is just either that or aspiring to that. Yeah. Yes, of course.
Starting point is 00:24:16 If you get that into a good acronym, you might have a good show going there. Just covering it all. Oh, C-C. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we'll work on it. Yeah. It was close. I mean, it wasn't bad.
Starting point is 00:24:28 I wouldn't say it was a good. Yeah. Myda. Fuck. This is going to take up the whole episode. It'll take a second. Yeah, yeah. Let's not waste Mary's time trying to workshop this one.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Yeah. Yeah. She's looking at her watch. Winddack? Winddack. Yeah. That's good. That's catchy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:54 All right. Good. We're back. We're back. Except it doesn't, it's actually completely out of it because the white is now at the beginning in front of ill. White, ill, mentally drug-indated, collar criminals. You can't just move the words around, it turns out. And you as a writer understand that, Mary. Of course, yes. This is where we need help. What's it like writing for the New Yorker?
Starting point is 00:25:19 Pretty cool. It's such a dream. That's so prestigious and awesome. You probably understand all the comics and shit too, right? Absolutely. I understand all of them
Starting point is 00:25:30 and I laugh out loud. Over coffee. Actually, over wine with like your fellow intellectual elites. At the salon, if you will. Yes.
Starting point is 00:25:42 My children will just walk up to me with a copy of the New Yorker and make me explain one of the comics to them. And I'll always, do it, even if I don't, like, fully understand what they were going for. Humiliating, explaining a comic to a child that you don't even understand. I would love to see that bit of improv.
Starting point is 00:26:03 The dog is clearly, it represents, what was it in his mouth, democracy? This dog's just hungry, man. It's like, give a dog a bone. I think he's what they're trying to say, kids. I like to finish end conversations with my kids by saying, am I right, brother up top? and then make them give me a high-five. Yeah. And they don't love it.
Starting point is 00:26:24 And they always say you're high-fiving too hard. Let's take a quick break, and we'll be right back. This is a tape-recorded statement. The person being interviewed is Krista Gail Pike. This is in regards to the death of a Colleen slimmer. She started going off on me, and I hit her. I just hit her and hit her and hit her, and hit her. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slemmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row. The state has asked for an execution date for Krista. We let people languish in prison for decades, raising questions about who we consider fundamentally unrestorable. How does someone prove that they deserve to live? we are starting the recording now please state your first and last name Krista Pike Listen to Unrestorable Season 2
Starting point is 00:27:29 Proof of Life On the IHeart Radio app Apple Podcasts Or wherever you get your podcasts My name is Ed Everyone say hello Ed From a very rural background myself My dad is a farmer
Starting point is 00:27:44 And my mom is a cousin So like it's not like What do you get when a True Crime Producer walks into a comedy club. I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different.
Starting point is 00:28:01 On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. The 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A foot washed up a shoe with some bones in it. They had no idea who it was. Most everything was burned up pretty good from the fire that not a whole lot was salvageable. These are the coldest of cold cases, but everything is about to change. Every case that is a cold case that has DNA right now in a backlog will be identified in our lifetime. A small lab in Texas is cracking the code on DNA. Using new scientific tools, they're finding clues in evidence so tiny you might just miss it.
Starting point is 00:29:11 He never thought he was going to get caught, and I just looked at my computer screen. I was just like, ah, gotcha. on America's Crime Lab, we'll learn about victims and survivors, and you'll meet the team behind the scenes at Othrum, the Houston Lab that takes on the most hopeless cases to finally solve the unsolvable. Listen to America's Crime Lab on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be held.
Starting point is 00:29:47 on Earth. Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you. Shock incarceration, also known as boot camps, are short-term, highly regimented correctional programs that mimic military basic training. These programs aim to provide a shock of prison life, emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor, and rehabilitation programs. Mark had one chance to complete this program and had no idea of the hell awaiting him the next six months. The first night was so overwhelming,
Starting point is 00:30:25 and you don't know who's next to you. And we didn't know what to expect in the morning. Nobody tells you anything. Listen to shock incarceration on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And we're back. And a couple weeks ago,
Starting point is 00:30:49 ice raided a Hyundai plant in Georgia. Yeah. And arrested around 300 Korean nationals, 150 others from various countries on the grounds of just... They're not white. Not white. And they're working. It's, again, remember, it's like,
Starting point is 00:31:07 are they doing manual labor or manufacturing and not white, then the Supreme Court basically? says it's okay to just go ahead and assume the absolute worst and yeah i think it's just this is kind of interesting because we've seen constantly how disruptive the and illegal these ice raids are especially and like you know they're at the beginning there was a outcry from like the hospitality and like farming industries that were like this is not hello let's this is this is this is actually our workforce that you're targeting and this is not good for our business that's its whole other issue going there. But in this one, Trump, like, again, put out this, like, statement, which
Starting point is 00:31:50 feels like for a moment, he realized, oh, I'm fucking the money up. But I don't even know if that means there's functionally going to change the policies, which I doubt it will. But it was interesting just to see him for a moment have to post about it. Because once he, like, those detained South Korean workers, he offered them like, he's just like, hey, if you want to stay in the US while you train your American for a month. Yeah. Yeah. We won't, we won't like. We won't totally violate you then. None of them wanted anything to do with it, and they went back to South Korea. And so the fuck's their problem.
Starting point is 00:32:24 I think one of the stupidest things of it is like the lady that called it in. Isn't she running for office? Yeah. She dropped a dime on the plant. And it's like, this is a huge project bringing riches to your estate. And you're like, I actually want to make a huge. obstacle so that my state doesn't get money. I think he's the money.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Yeah, right. It's just like how myopic these people are too. We're just like, I don't know. I can like get some foreigners in trouble. I'm doing that. And then you're like, wait, that's like one of the biggest investments that Hyundai has in the United States is in this plant in Savannah, Georgia. Huh.
Starting point is 00:33:03 And I wonder if that's probably why only because now this is something disrupting foreign investment in a red state that Trump is like lightly tap dancing. because this is what he posted on truth. Quote, when foreign companies who are building extremely complex products, machines, and various other things come into the United States with massive investments, I want them to bring their people of expertise for a period of time to teach and train our people. If we didn't do this, all of that massive investment will never come in the first place. And then he went on to say that he didn't want to, quote,
Starting point is 00:33:33 frighten off or disincentivize investment into America by outside countries or companies. And then ended the tweet or post with, quote, we welcome them, we welcome their employees, and we are willing to proudly say we will learn from them and even do better at them at them in their own game in the distant future. Well, a little late bitch, like why would any company come here now when they could just go to Mexico or anywhere else? Anywhere else, yeah, truly. And do even better than them at their own, quote, game sometime into the not-too-distant future.
Starting point is 00:34:08 What? Their own game? What is that new game? Just veiled racism where it's like. Like, we'll do technology like the Asians do. Right. They met their own tech game. And it's like, what are you even saying?
Starting point is 00:34:19 You know, they invent all the cool stuff over there. I don't know what, I don't know what it is about the food or what. But he goes, like, this whole thing is just wild to even say, we welcome them. We, like, in this era of unhinged xenophobia. Yes. That the president is like, we welcome them and they're employees. And we're even willing to be bow prostrates to them and say, we shall learn from you superior knowledge base and then who knows what'll happen but it is wild like
Starting point is 00:34:48 this was always a very logical outcome you know when you indiscriminately arrest people for not being white yeah you apprehend people that are here legally and are contributing to the economy and somehow this only connected once it ended up again hitting a red state and the president of south korea was like this is be quote he called it quote bewildering uh given like the agreements that the two countries are trying to hash out with tariffs and manufacturing and all this other shit. And now the South Korean government is actually doing their own investigation into this to see if anyone's human rights were violated in the process. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:35:22 You might not like what you find because human rights are merely a suggestion in 2025 America, I'd say. It really reads like a combination of like a statement by him and then also like writing the teacher's message on the board of like, I must not, you know, Like, if we don't do this, all that massive investment will never come in the first. Like, it's like a thing that he either farmed out or was like told like he had to put in there. And so he just like wrote his own shit around it. Like, okay, I'll play your game, China.
Starting point is 00:35:57 It's like racism is quote unquote bad. I get it. Yeah. Well, it is. I mean, that's what's kind of struck me because he doesn't give a fuck. No. Ever. But it's only with money.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Right? Like, I remember even with the, when the hospitality and agricultural industries, like, when the raids first started, were like, hey, what the fuck? He was like, we're going to have to do something. Like, because clearly he heard enough from enough donors or whoever, people that he felt somewhat beholden to at least make a statement that alluded to maybe he'd do anything. Spoiler alert, he didn't. But, like, that's where, like, the pressure is because also the deputy deputy secretary of state had to, like, apologize to their South Korean counterpart, like, profusely. and was like, this was a most regrettable mistake that had occurred. And I was like, oh, this is, it's like, you're, now you're speaking Asian.
Starting point is 00:36:50 This feels like an Asian apology. Most regrettable is to me, that sounds like something like I've seen this happen in Japan in other countries, like a CEO has to go into a public apology. It's like, it's always most regrettable. But will that change policy? I don't know. I don't know. I mean, didn't you have that tweet or whatever fucking truth, social,
Starting point is 00:37:09 thing where after, you know, the threat of indiscriminate deportation made it hard to collect, like get people to work in the fields or like, I think it was actually at hotels maybe that he then like issued a statement being like, we're not trying to do that, but then it didn't change any of their policies. It was just like, you know, you know, we're going to arrest people if they look like they might be from another country, whether or not they are here illegally or not, we're just arresting everybody. Therefore, it completely disincentivizes people from ever working any job that he claims to be aware that he wants them to work, but nothing about what they do matters. It's just, I think it's like noteworthy when he does anything that, like, seems like a
Starting point is 00:38:05 politician who's like speaking out of both sides of his mouth because he usually just like says the racist thing like out of the one side of his mouth the non-droopy one and he like in this case is like seem like they've convinced him to say something that that suggests he understands the the situation and that's like nor worthy but i don't know that it actually matters or it's maybe still the weekend at Bernie's theory where it's like yeah he's not making decisions anymore somebody else is posting this he's he's going biden mode for sure yeah yeah oh yeah yeah yeah the new goblin mode is biden mode just relax into your senility you know and someone else will handle it but the the scary thing is now it's stephen miller who is the one who like while the you know
Starting point is 00:38:59 the teacher is out sick gets to dictate a lot of the policies and especially right now with his like revenge streak he's on with the Charlie Kirk shit it's not very not very comforting not good
Starting point is 00:39:12 not good would be my summary of the day for for the fifth year running yeah it's not good guys it's not great it's why people tune into the show stuff like that just in terms of you know what people are free to say
Starting point is 00:39:29 Fox and Friends is Brian Kilmead straight up advocated the murdering of unhoused people with mental illnesses not not on a hot mic like years ago on Fox and Friends like on the air on the show that people watch that he's like paid to be on and then had to apologize but yeah it literally so they were talking about the North Carolina commuter train stabbing that the right has like seized on and is trying to make a national issue out of. And Lawrence Jones said that unhoused people with mental illness should either accept the publicly funded programs to help in their situation or be jail and Kilmead chimed in with that they be given, quote, involuntary lethal injection or something.
Starting point is 00:40:22 Just kill them. It gets, yeah. I'll just come to the tail end of just where you can hear what Brian, you've here, here, Just hear from Brian Kill Me. It's pretty fucked up. This is that we're going to give you or you decide that you're going to be locked up in gym. That's the way it has to be now. Or involuntary lethal injection or something.
Starting point is 00:40:41 I just kill him. Brian, why did it have to get to this? I'm sorry. Did you see my man after when he said, yep, because he was just so used to agreeing with him. He physically kind of shook his head. He's like, no, no, no, no, no, no. He's like, yeah, we got to give him leaving. He's like, yep.
Starting point is 00:40:59 He said, yep, while shaking his head, like his mind and his body, we're doing three different things. Or involuntary lethal injection or something. Jesus. So, yeah, that's, that caused a bit of a stir, you know, when you hear shit like that being said on national television. But again, voluntary, I get, but involuntary? Right. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, we can't even
Starting point is 00:41:28 voluntary youth In case you think I'm like saying Make this available If you want to die Like sure No, no no I want to kill them against their will Is kind of my whole thing
Starting point is 00:41:40 That's where I get my like kind of excitement On this one, thanks Yeah Yeah This happened on the same day That Charlie Kirk was shot Which took some attention away From the fact that one of Fox News
Starting point is 00:41:52 Is friends Fox and Friends It's like the sunny morning talk show thing. Yeah. Had just advocated for mass murder on live TV. You know, we've talked before about, you know, in the aftermath of the Charlie Kirk shooting, like, people being like, are, is there going to be a civil war?
Starting point is 00:42:09 What does that look like? I really do think, like, they are laser focused on... Cancel culture. No, they're laser focused on, like, finding ways to justify violence against the very, the most vulnerable people. So unhoused people and the trans community. That's who they're going after. That's what it looks like.
Starting point is 00:42:32 You go after those people. People have been like, how would they do a civil war when like, you know, it's hard to tell who's on what side. That's what they're going to try and do. They're identifying a group to then project all of that sort of angst and anger towards classic stuff,
Starting point is 00:42:49 classic playbook running, being ran on us. Just like with, gosh, and Bravo sucks now, so now I've got to pay attention to the fascism. So it's like, really, I used to have an escape. I really did. But like, yeah, to your point about the people getting docs, like, there was a site that was up for a few days called Charlie's Killers or some shit, where it was just a site
Starting point is 00:43:08 where people were screenshoting social media posts of anyone not publicly canonizing Kirk and saying that these are the people that were responsible and, like, doxing them. But funny thing about the internet is people know how to like search domains. and who they're registered to. And like when the woman was sort of like outed for running this website, like the website just went away. So I guess it was when the shoes on the other foot, maybe it wasn't all fun in games at that point.
Starting point is 00:43:35 But yeah, do you guys mind if I say something about Charlie Kirk? Go ahead. Go ahead. And I know you guys might get canceled for this. Uh-huh. So I'm warning you. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:48 I'm ready. Charlie Kirk. More like Charlie Jerk. jerk. Fuck. All right. Justin, let's hold on.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Let me pause the recording really quick. Mary, you're, I have a kid. Playing with fire. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:44:04 yeah, yeah. I'm. This is a lost episode. I don't know how you guys do. I don't know how you guys do things in New Jersey.
Starting point is 00:44:10 But that is not how we do things in the San Fernando Valley. Okay. Yeah, but it is so strange. Like, even the fucking, do you see in West Hollywood,
Starting point is 00:44:18 they flew the, the flag at half mast? That's so stupid. And people were like, why, the fuck is, are you lowering your flag for someone who had your community directly, rhetorically in its crosshairs? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Like, what are you fucking, like, that's the most bizarre thing again, too, is just to see how, like, the norms just switch on a dime. And suddenly it's like, yep, got to do the, yeah, got to do the, the proper things that the state has dictated, I do without being on the receiving end of their ire. Yeah. So Killmead then came out and said it wrongly said, they should get lethal injection. I apologize for that extremely callous remark. I wrongly, I whoopsied and said they should get lethal injection.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Truly, like, a description of they should, I apologize. I accidentally said they should get lethal injections is like how a child, like a four-year-old would describe that. Yeah. And then that was good enough to save his job, it seems like. Energetically, this, again, it's just so funny because all these people just respond to his money. Clearly, the people at Fox heard about sponsored, like, ad money dwindling, and they're like, you need to fucking say something because it's the only time we will apologize or act like any
Starting point is 00:45:31 kind of mistake was made when there's capital on the line. But here's Brian Kilmead's quote-unquote apology. In the morning, we were discussing the murder of Arena Zerushka and Charlotte, North Carolina, how to stop these kinds of attacks by homeless, mentally ill assailants, including institutionalizing or jailing such people, so they cannot attack again. Now, during that discussion, I wrongly said they should get lethal injections. I apologize for that extremely callous remark. I'm obviously aware that not all mentally ill homeless people act as the perpetrator did in North Carolina, and that so many homeless people deserve our empathy and compassion.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Wow, you almost got hung up reading that off the teleprompters. That was totally how humans speak. Empath-y? Empath-Y? Mm-hmm. Is that a type-ball? Can you say this? What's compassion?
Starting point is 00:46:22 What's compassion? Like a computer, like you're passionate with a computer? This, like, whole thing about homeless people in the past bunch of years is, like, really strange to me. I really don't understand it. You know, I don't have the stats in front of me, but it, frankly, does not seem like there's more random violence than, like, I've seen homeless people my whole damn, life. And I definitely never thought, oh my God, there's so many now. Like, I really don't get it.
Starting point is 00:46:56 There are more and more people living on the streets like compared like is by stemming compared to years past. Like I definitely just see that just from like being in LA. But like to me, that doesn't then translate to. We need to around like what the fuck is with all these homeless people? Get them out of my sight. Because they're actively reminding me of my place in society and maybe I could be advocating for a fair world. No, get that out of my. fucking head. You got Bravo to watch. Get fucking home. You know what I mean? I also kind of like, like, like, low key, that ends up being like a litmus test when people start saying shit about like on house people like all fucking like they're not human. I'm like, oh, this person's fucking cooked
Starting point is 00:47:33 mentally. Like when you can't demonstrate just the most basic bit of compassion for another person because like you can't, you actually don't have the faculties to put yourself in that place, like what would have to go wrong for me to have absolutely no support and have to, unfortunately, live on the street or in my car when people like can't do that sort of like empathy work and like sort of put themselves there. Yeah. Like there are a few people like, you know, like people I grew up with like say shit like that. I'm like, I'm like, I'm not going to get into a fucking three hour debate with this person because I don't have time to educate them. I'm just going to be like, yep, all right. They're cooked. Sorry. Try and find your spirit. Well, I think it also just shows like
Starting point is 00:48:13 how vulnerable, vulnerable people are to like brainwashing to like whatever is on the news or whatever is on their algorithm because I do hear sometimes like people that are like poor or working class say stuff about like oh homeless people yeah and like when I'm encountering someone like that in real life and having a conversation I'm obviously not going to be like you're so wrong you're stupid yeah yeah I'm going to be like yeah I get what you mean but like on the one hand like you know I'm like explain I do the same thing yeah I try and be so use the Socratic method. And like, I feel like once I say that of like, oh, they're, they're mentally ill and
Starting point is 00:48:55 like their family can't take them in. And they're usually like, oh, yeah, right. Okay. Yeah, you're right. Because there's no health care, mental health care. We closed all the mental health care facilities. I always ask people just like, well, I'm like, what do you think it would take for you to be on the street?
Starting point is 00:49:10 Yeah, exactly. What would have to happen? A bad month, really. Yeah, truly. Yeah. And I think that's the thing that people don't. And I think that's what's really. fucked up about that sort of portrayal of
Starting point is 00:49:20 unhoused people and how that's contextualized. It's never in the context of like, we're all hanging by a fucking thread because this place is, if you are not working, you are deemed fucking expendable, basically, societally. And that's a huge fucking red flag
Starting point is 00:49:37 as a society that people are expendable merely because, like, they need help. Oh, God. Yeah, we're not doing that. And like, yeah, with Fox News people, I always just am like, okay, so they're always saying like they hate the city. They all live in New York City.
Starting point is 00:49:53 They all live in Manhattan. But also, like, all of their viewers, like, live out in the suburbs and don't even really have homeless people around. Like, why are you so angry about this thing you don't even see and you don't even know if it's real? Yeah. They're just saying it and you're like, that pisses me off. Yeah. It's like, oh, because I've been indoctrinated into believing. I'm against the urban areas.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Yes. But because I'm not experiencing them, I need a propagandist to articulate the reasons why I need to be upset about it and why they are actually terrible. It's because it smells like weed and there's poop on the floor in the cities. And it's like, come into the city. Come see Betty Poop on Broadway. You'll have fun. Come see Mrs. Doubtfire on Broadway. I hear it's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:50:42 Death becomes her. We just start listing Broadway shows. You guys got to see. Broadway. Yeah, you haven't seen Broadway? Yeah, some Fox News person. There's just a Fox News person walking down the street with like the lights of Broadway and like the playbills going by their head and like double exposure like a Simpsons movie where they like go to the city. Yeah, there's this quote that Philip Proudfoot on Twitter posted from Ernest Hemingway.
Starting point is 00:51:08 Someone said, but are there not many fascists in your country? And he responded, there are many who do not know they are fascists, but we'll find out when the time comes. And that feels like, yeah, I mean, the entire human-caging policy of the past 40 years has been fashion, like, has been very similar to the conversation that they were just having on Fox News, where it's just like, I don't just make it go away, like, make anything that makes me feel uncomfortable go away using violence and, you know, ending people's lives or depriving them of human lives. like, and that's just, it feels like we're seeing these values now just made a little bit more evident. Yeah. It's like people who see like someone asking for change or whatever, rather than feeling panic at the side of that and like, oh my God, what's the what's going on?
Starting point is 00:52:05 Like you should actually redirect that into understanding. It's like you should be panicked over the state of our society that this is being allowed to happen. I think that's the thing people need to connect with rather than what's this person going to do to me. It's like, well, what's this society doing to us? But focusing it on them and telling yourself the story that like they did something on purpose to be where they are. Yeah, they want to be homeless. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:52:29 The amount of times you hear that's like the most tired fucking like anti on house talking point. They want to be out there. Oh, they do. Yeah. They do. Like I get how sometimes because then they'll be like, you can ask them and they'll show a person be like, well, that's what the city is offering. I don't want it. It's because what the city is offering is, like, actually more dangerous even than living on, like, how they've been surviving.
Starting point is 00:52:53 But again, used as a way to be like, no, no, no. And that leads to Brian Kilmead being like, I don't know, just put them down. Yeah, yeah. Well, just do what animal shelters do, right? Yeah, and then you can post them on Instagram, see if someone will rescue them. You know, maybe it'll all work out. I don't know. Anyway, kill meat out.
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Starting point is 00:57:15 Listen to the Chinatown Sting on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back. And Governor Kathy Hockel, I'm told, pronounced like yokel. Not like polycule. Not like polycule. Like slack-jawed yokel. Yes.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Yes. Paul Kuhl. Poly-Kul. I think is how I mispronounced it. Anyways, she has broken new ground for centrist establishment Democrats proving that they are capable of endorsing Zoran Mamdani. Many thought that it was physically impossible up to this point. There was some manner of physical allergy that they were suffering from. But no, she just, like, did it.
Starting point is 00:58:13 She did, she, in the, and in a very, like, establishment centrist Democrat way, in a New York Times op-ed. Yeah. And the New York Times, like, let her do it. She just did it in the New York Times. And they weren't even like, we got to find a way to put an end to this. I mean, it's wild to hear people like Jamie Raskin, I mean, of Maryland, Pat Ryan of New York. They were both, like, a formal endorsement. And then Rahm Emanuel and Richie Torres,
Starting point is 00:58:43 Richie Torres, who is one of the most staunchly pro-Israel congresspeople. Yeah. Who, like, definitely was not singing his praises. They've kind of softened to be like, oh, like maybe he has the potential of like effectively lead the city.
Starting point is 00:58:58 You're like, what the, to me, I'm like, I'm more scared at that. Like, what are they? I'm happy.
Starting point is 00:59:03 I'm excited. No, for sure. But there's something, I can't look at them and feel like that's totally sincere. I knew it was all, I knew it was going to happen, too. Yeah. He's so popular.
Starting point is 00:59:15 And like at the end of the day, every other Democrat needs to get reelected. By association. So what are they going to do? Just ignore this hugely popular person that everyone likes that most Jewish people voted for. Right. Yeah. It does feel like they've been able to, they've managed to do that with like the Sanders, Bernie San.
Starting point is 00:59:37 I mean, they kind of like brought Bernie Sanders. in a little bit, but for the most part, yeah, I guess you're right. They have, like, kind of moved in that direction. He's, you know, running for mayor of New York City. I could, I could see how they would be more cowardly when it comes to someone running for president. Right. But it's like, everyone in New York likes this guy.
Starting point is 00:59:57 You look stupid if you don't endorse him. Right. Also in a town, too, we're like, like, with New Yorkers, like, if you're doing, like, the one thing, everyone, like, it's clear this guy is liked by the city. And if you're suddenly not doing that, like, what the fuck is wrong with you, bro? Right. Like, this guy's doing great. Trump, it was, quote, shocked by this endorsement by Hockel.
Starting point is 01:00:18 And then I think it was, like, threatening to, like, withhold federal, like, whatever fucking dumb move he's trying to do. But, yeah, I mean, it is, it is, like, I think the Democrats are learning that beggars can't be choosers right now. Yeah, they're going to get voted out if they don't, you know, get on board for popular policies. That's how I feel about it. Of course, we don't have a lot of faith in them, but these people need to win elections. Yeah. Or like we need to juxtapose more candidates in these races that act as a way to nudge them, like, into the right way. But also, part of me, I've lost complete faith in these people that have been elected.
Starting point is 01:00:55 I'm like, just bringing a fucking new crop of people who, like, aren't so poisoned by, like, lobbying and maintaining the status quo that, like, they're, like, I think it's harder work for a politician to be like, I actually need to just. mantle the status quo, like to learn that lesson, then someone who's been suffering at the hands of the status quo and now is empowered to legislate responsibly and be like, these are the things we actually need to change that will help people because I think right now the Democrats are just going to be copying homework and doing it like in a really poor, like piss poor way. Yeah. It would seem to be a thing where they would be able to be like, well, look, he, this is his playbook. It's been shockingly, popular, shocking to us,
Starting point is 01:01:39 shockingly popular. We should just kind of do the same thing and, you know, make the argument that well, and we're, we're, you know, part of the system, so we know how to dismantle it, but the fact that it's been this fucking harsh for them to
Starting point is 01:01:55 just be, to just do the bare minimum of be like, I endorse him, is a sign to me that like, I I'm very skeptical of that line of argument that, like, they're, you know, essentially what it is they are, like, they represent so many people who are behind the scenes who, like, helped them get elected, who the ideas of socialism couldn't be, like, more anathema, too, you know. Yeah. Yeah. I think one of the reasons, too, is they ran the traditional playbook on how they scare out, like, people, like, progressives or leftists, which is for us, first, like, they're a socialist. And, like, never was like, like, you. Yeah. And, uh-huh. Yeah, no, he was pretty clear about that. He's brown. Yeah. So am I. Yeah, so am I. Yeah, so are we. He's Muslim. What is this? 2001? What the for you're talking about? Like, no. And I think when they're like, well, we're out of fucking ideas. I think they're like, well, we're out of fucking ideas. What are we supposed to do now? Right. They're like, maybe we can co-op the movement. Oh, that's the other part of the. Perfect. Co-opt. Let's see if we can do the old-fashioned co-op. Andrew Cuomo, though, he came out with a pretty sick response, huh? Yeah, he did. He did. He did. He did. He did.
Starting point is 01:03:07 a video where he is reading some of Mumdani's old tweets, but set to like Hans Zimmer music. Yeah, this is how you fight back. Democrats take note like fucking Andy nipple clamps Cuomo. So he apologized for saying the NYPD are racist. Does he apologize for calling the NYPD? That actually does kind of bump me out. queer and a major threat to public safety do you apologize for calling Barack Obama
Starting point is 01:03:39 pretty damn evil does he condemn the phrase globalize the interfire do you still believe that this is so funny because you knew they needed all this music because if not you would just hear an old man's dried up
Starting point is 01:03:57 mouth and lips move around like reading talking points that they've been drilling for six months now to know of now, you know? You hate to see it. What if we did, like, some Hans Zimmer? Like, what if we made it sound like scary? Yeah, what if we completely overexposed this shot, too? So Andrew Cuomo looks like a bed sheet.
Starting point is 01:04:18 I think that also. I'm dying to know who does social media for him and Eric Adams. I know. They're so good, like, bad, but. Like, they look ironic. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like, they're unwittingly helping everyone except their client, which is truly, but I think that's also, it's probably some guy who used to do like TV stuff.
Starting point is 01:04:43 And then as he saw the social media thing on the horizon, he tried to pivot to social media, but functionally has no experience on how people on the internet think. And so just charged him a bunch of money. He's like, yeah, I'll put this up on your Twitter. I'll shoot a video. And you just post it, right? I don't know anything about tone or context or how. how the internet talks about things,
Starting point is 01:05:01 but these are wins. He opens with the claim that the NYPD is anti-queer. And it sounds like a slur the way he says that too. They're saying NYPD doesn't like quees? I don't know. Is he going to apologize for that?
Starting point is 01:05:20 Apologize. Yeah. Like it's a well-established fact that the NYPD is like pro-LGB. BTQ plus people or something. Yeah, yeah. Don't look up Stonewall or anything. Right. Yeah. Nothing to do with the NYPD.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Like, what the fuck? That's a gotcha moment. I mean, it just shows, too, like how he also is a, a Cuomo's appeal is to the status quo, which is, are you pro police? That's why he did the, are you going to apologize to the police? What was the other one? Oh, then it's pro establishment Democrat. He's like, are you, would you deign to say that Obama is, is evil in any capacity? don't look up Obama drones. And also, finally, to, like, all of the Jewish people in New York,
Starting point is 01:06:06 bringing up the globalized the Intifada line, which has been fucking clarified so many times at this point. Like, I feel like even. And he never said it even. They just ask him, what do you think about it? And he's literally never said it. Yeah. Again, and like to the point.
Starting point is 01:06:19 They should just ask it of everyone now. Yeah. Just anyone. They're like, I never said, like, well, yeah, either did Zorn. Eric Adams. And we know you did it. I feel like Eric Adams' social media strategy is a little different, right? Oh, it's very funny.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Way too long. Very slow videos, which I appreciate. It's at a pace for a different kind of person. Oh, God. No editing. The engagement on Eric Adams' campaign, Twitter, it's like funny. Like, he can barely get like 30 likes on a post. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:57 damn he's just got to he's got to give out more chip bags with money in him you know yeah yeah yeah yeah oh god more of a face-to-face politician i don't do don't go in for this social media stuff you know what i mean no look a man in the eyes and hand him an empty greasy five guys bag with 40 bucks in it oh man well mary hullahan what a pleasure having you on the daily zeitgeist where can people is all mine um no we we actually enjoyed it too so it's not all yours oh cool okay i'm gonna challenge you on that mary uh we enjoyed it too i'm gonna push back i'm gonna take some pleasure for everyone not to go all kill tony on this but uh we enjoyed it too um where can people find you follow you all that good stuff find me on all the social media is at mary hoolee and subscribe to my
Starting point is 01:07:50 Twitch and YouTube. I do a Twitch show every Thursday. But I'm going on tour. So come see me on tour. All right. What thoughts and dates? Let's see. Providence.
Starting point is 01:08:02 September 24. Philly. September 30th. Atlanta. October 9th and 10th. Atlanta is a game. Come out. Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:08:12 That's right. I'm going to Denton, Texas. Dallas, Texas. I'd hopefully kill Tony also. Yeah. I wonder if you, like, dressed up, like, to try and look like a person, like, go undercover. They'd be like, oh, this person's not a comedian. Like, get her up there and we're going to fucking, just going to fucking kill Tony it up.
Starting point is 01:08:33 Like, I wonder if that would help. What would appeal to them? Like, like, like, glasses with, with, like, tape on it. You know what I mean? Like, just, like, real revenge of the nerd shit. Yeah, yeah. Or something that would, like, make you look like a capital L. lib. Like, they would love.
Starting point is 01:08:49 They would fucking. love for that shit. You're just sitting there with one finger in there and a pussy hat on. But that would be so funny, Mary, like, you dressed so overt. Like, it's almost like a parody of a lib that they go, I think that lady's a lip. Yeah. Maybe she's the real thing. Clearly not here to fucking heckle or disrupt the show pick her.
Starting point is 01:09:10 Hillary Clinton pants suit with a pussy hat on. Pussy hat on. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. I like it. Well, we'll work with you trying to try and try to. advise on how to get on Kill Tony as experts on that show.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Thanks, guys. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? I really like Cotton Providence. Have you guys seen this? Mm-mm. Oh, my God, it's so good. There's a Cotton Providence channel on Pluto TV or Roku TV or one of those where it's just this show over and over.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Oh, with Judge Frank Caprio? Yes. I've seen that guy's videos on YouTube all the time, yes. Oh, it's so good. It's like People's Court, but he's so nice. And he lets everyone off. And every single defendant is like, I'm going through so much right now. And he's like, oh, you poor thing.
Starting point is 01:10:07 Oh, really? Yeah. So every single, most episodes are about running a red light. And he's like, I'm sure you had to go somewhere. It's fine. Yeah. They're like, my grandmother's really sick and she's got a heart issue. I had to get her medicine to her at the pharmacy.
Starting point is 01:10:25 And they're like, oh, I hate to hear. Yeah. So this is my comfort show because he's so nice to everyone. And every episode concludes with him talking to camera. Like, no matter who you are, you probably came to this country from somewhere else. So when you think about it, everyone here is an American. And that's what makes this country so great. Frank, Judge Frank.
Starting point is 01:10:48 Yeah, I watched the other channel he has where he's absolutely letting people have it for small minor drug offenses. Yeah, it's not good. No. They should be injecting you, your dog. Get out of here. Oh, you mean Judge Judy? Yeah. No, he is.
Starting point is 01:11:04 Judy unleashed. I also like, he's so old, it makes me sad because I'm like, are there still other judges like this who are younger? Or is this like the last of like a breed of judge who looks at a person as a human being, right? rather than like, you friggin' demonic terrorist? I think there's a lot of young people like that, but I think usually they get exhausted and switch to something else. Yeah, that ends up being the case. How about you, Miles?
Starting point is 01:11:32 Where can people find you as their work in media you've been enjoying? Find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. You can catch me talking about 90-day fiancé with Sophia Alexandra on 420-day fiancé, and a work of me at Ben Collins. B-sky.com. He quote skeeted this thing from CNN.com. It's a picture of Mark Zuckerberg on with the dumbest fucking glasses on in which he says. Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg has told analysts that people without smart glasses may one day be at a quote significant cognitive disadvantage and quote compared to those who do use the tech. in Ben Posted, All who do not wear the things that make you look like a lost moth
Starting point is 01:12:17 will be lesser than. They're so big and they really come up on his face. They look very grandma style. Yeah, exactly. It's like you're like the old man from up or something. Yes. You can find me on Twitter
Starting point is 01:12:34 at Jack underscore Brian Blue Sky at Jack Obey, the number one. I like the tweet from Mike Drucker that just said, anyway, time to get back to releasing those Epstein files, which... Yeah, let's do that. What about that?
Starting point is 01:12:47 Maybe we should talk about the... Huh? Maybe not. Yeah, that's pretty soon. I feel like someone's going to say that at the White House. Like Caroline Levitt. They're like, what about the Epstein? Ah!
Starting point is 01:12:58 Nah, yeah, yeah. No. You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zikeyes. We're at The Daily Zikeyes. On Instagram, you can go to the description of this episode, wherever you're listening to it. And there at the bottom of the description, you will find the footnotes.
Starting point is 01:13:11 Which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think the people might enjoy? Yeah, this is El Michaels Affair, great band. Love, we've gone out on a few of their tracks before, like, maybe one of the last times was, like, they were doing, like, full-on band instrumentals of, like, Wu-Tang, like, the cream sort of beat, but just playing it as, like, a band with real-life instruments. They got another track out that came. out recently. That's great. It's called Magica, M-A-G-I-C-A, with this Brazilian artist named Roger, and it's really, really dope. So check out Magica by El-Micha's Affair and Roger. And we will like
Starting point is 01:13:55 off to that in the footnotes. The Al-Zicke is a production by Heart Radio for more podcasts from My Heart Radio visit. The I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcast, wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us. This morning, we're back this afternoon to tell you what is trending, and we'll talk to you all then. Bye. Bye. Bye. The Daily Zykeyes is executive produced by Catherine Long. Co-produced by Baye Wage. Co-produced by Victor Wright. Co-written by J.M. McNabb.
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