The Daily Zeitgeist - My New Girlfriend Is Women! Illuminati International Airport 06.03.26

Episode Date: June 3, 2026

In episode 2068, Jack and Miles are joined by founder of Abominable Pictures and Emmy Award-winning Executive Producer, Jonathan Stern, to discuss… Hackers Politely Asked Meta AI To Hand Over Obama’s Instagram Account, GOP Continues with the Saddest Attacks On Talarico, Denver Airport To Open Its Illuminati Tunnels To The Public and more! Hackers Simply Asked Meta AI to Give Them Access to High-Profile Instagram Accounts. It Worked Todd Starnes Wants To Know If James Talarico 'Has An Affinity For Frilly Underpants' THEIR NEW GIRLFRIEND IS WOMEN Denver Airport To Open Tunnels at Center of Conspiracy Theories Denver airport’s solution to train frustrations: $300 million of walkways through old baggage tunnels Myths and Legends Behind Denver International Airport A Local's Guide to DIA Conspiracy Theories Myths and Legends Behind Denver International Airport Watch DIA's old luggage system toss baggage into the air Denver Airport Saw the Future. It Didn't Work. Next Question: Has there been any effort to resurrect DIA’s failed ‘baggage system from hell?’ United abandons Denver baggage system An investigation into the underground tunnels of DIA Commission launches investigation into agency head as Colorado defense attorneys’ complaints crescendo LISTEN: Road Of The Lonely Ones by MadlibSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It actually sounds when you have, when you're losing your voice a little bit, it's a bit of grind to it as well. You truly sound like a completely different person. That's exactly what happened to me, man. There's a total transformation just based off the raspiness of my voice. You inhabit a new person. Yeah, it's crazy, right. And then, yeah, some bloke burn my shirt with a cigarette at the fucking parade, mate.

That's terrible, mate. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, Jonathan. Hey, Jonathan. Hey, Jonathan. Good to see you. This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human.

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With Chris Crofton. With the Crofton. Encyclopedic knowledge of Bob Dylan of Crofton. He was like apologizing most times. I was like, I'm sorry, guys. I know too much about this. I'm going to jump in here. Anyways, it's a typical Crofton app, but it's about Bob Dylan, and you'll learn a lot about the 60s and 70s and Bob Dylan and Chris Crofton.

It is Wednesday, June 3rd, 2026. Oh, what a day. What a day. It's actually, it's Global Running Day, National Chicken Salad Day, National Egg Day. What else is there? National, what is it? Uh, uh, oh, well, world cider day and world bicycle day. Love those.

Bicycles, ciders, chicken salad eggs, running. Uh, not running so much. A bicycle? Yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah. Sign me up. We'll take that.

Two of the dang things. And National Egg Day. I feel like everybody's crowding on June 2nd, you know? There's some big hitters. June 3rd. There's some heavy hitters. What happened to eggs being really expensive? Wasn't that a thing not long ago?

Is that been solved? I don't think it's just on the list of compounding the difficulties we have. I think it got overshadowed by gas being so much more expensive. Just like everything got it. It was kind of a leading indicator of where we were headed as opposed to. It came first. Yeah. But they have gone down.

We used to have 10 chickens in our backyard laying eggs. We finally got rid of them. And right when we did, the egg prices went up. What shot through the roof? Fortune. Damn it. Did you get rid of them? because they were charging, they went on strike and were charging crazy money.

Yes, it helped the market was like, we got rid of them because of the rats and because of the early morning, them waking us up. But when we finally took away the coop, I found a pit in the backyard that I guess they had dug, dug behind the coop that I never saw. And it had 80 eggs in it. None of them edible. Right, right, right. At that point. Years worth of eggs that they had filled up this pit. Oh, wow. I thought you were going to say you found like little works of art that they had made. That would have been magical. Eggs are works of art.

Anyways, they're God's work of art. So lost Matisse in there. My name's Jack O'Brien, A.K. We always did feel the same. We just saw it from a different point of view. Drinking Mountain Dew. That one courtesy of Zach Van Das on the Discord reference to Bob Dylan's song, tangled up and blew on my dirty little secret, my guilty plunge.

I like to drink a mountain do every once in a while. I like to do the do, as the kids say, constantly. They did 30 years ago. They still do miles. Here's a trivia question for you. Where did Mr. Pib come from? Why did they create Mr. Pib? They wanted like a less hoity-toity Dr. Pepper.

They were like a less educated. That's exactly right. I was like, yeah, Jack's going to know. Is that real? Were they? Yeah, that's exactly right. And they were like, well, doctors scare people. So we're just going to do a miscarpiff. Yeah.

Maybe people will get confused. Do you want a Dr. Pepper that hasn't gone to seven years of college? Exactly. I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Yeah, just back from the streets of London, it's the Grey Gooner himself, the Lord of Lancashim, the Shogun with No Gun. Miles Gray, thank you so much for having me back. And my voice is slowly recovering me.

Oh, slowly recovering, man. slowly recovered. Gray Gooner does not refer to him being an old man who jacks off all the time, by the way. He is, his last name is Gray, and he's a fan of Arsenal. That's the thing about art, man. You can dance in the ambiguity. You know what I mean?

Maybe you are. You're jacks is this big game. Yeah, exactly. That's right. With a bouncy ball. With the Super Bowl, yeah. Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by someone who, if I listed all as accomplishments,

we'd be here all day. Need 900 breaths. I've got time. It would be easier than talking about the news, but he's a founder of Abominable Pictures, Emmy Award winning, executive producer of shows like Children's Hospital, NTSFSFS, D-S-U-V, Garfunkel, and those movies like David Wains the 10,

which he let me come to many, many years ago. That's how we first met. That is, well, we first met because you submitted a great article to me when I was first starting cracked.com and then you needed to ask for it back because the New Yorker wanted to print it. And you were like very apologetic. And I was like, look, man,

it's like really an honor for it to be like in the same negotiation with the New Yorker. So like this actually makes me feel cool. But anyways, he's also the producer. It took me years to get the New Yorker to pick up another piece. That didn't realize how hard it was. Yeah, shouts and merms. Also the producer of the podcast mission.

implausible that looks at conspiracy theories through the eyes of two former CIA officers. It's Jonathan Starr! Jonathan! Hello. Hawkins, Airhorn. There you go. Or honky. You're getting the morning zoo vibes.

La Cucaracha. Here we are. All together. Got to say, her majesty has worked for both of these. a lot of history of between Jack and Jonathan and myself. It's nice to have everybody together. I actually think was around that meeting your wife for some of our best shows. We call her her majesty.

I don't use her name on the show. But I can't do that. Okay. We'll just bleep it out. I think she was around when we did Wet Hot American Summer Series. Yeah. What else was she? Children's Hospital.

Well, Children's Hospital. Yeah. I don't think she was around when we did Murderville. No. Burning glove, I think. Burning gloves. Yeah. therefore. Anyway, I'm very fond of her.

Yeah, just great. A lot of familiarity here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you guys had a kid, she told me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Three years old now. The geist child. The geist child. Yeah, that's his legal name. I heart made me do it. In our lore. I heart made you name. You know, we're talking about the Studio City Farmers Market. You know, you're going to be spending a lot of money on that little petting zoo and those overpriced inflatable slides. Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, we don't live there anymore since we moved away since that was like right after the fire when we were in Studio City.

Oh, yeah, yeah. That's right. That's right. But yeah, but my mom is still like in the North Hollywood area. So yeah, we get over there every now and then. Somebody recently had an underrated that was the smell of manure, right? Wasn't that on this show? I was 10. Yeah, I'm kind of on board because you just mentioned a petting zoo and I was like, the smell of a petting zoo is bad, but it also reminds me of a petting zoo, which is always good. But you're never like in a terrible situation when you're near a petting zoo. That's depending on the welfare of the animals. Yeah, that's true. No, I love it. That's what I'm in it for, actually, those little fuckers.

But yeah, like definitely punching above its weight in terms of like the raw quality of the smell versus just all the associations of it. Sure. I do kind of enjoy a petting zoo smell. All right. Jonathan, we're thrilled to have you here. A good cheese tastes like a petting suit. All right. A good cheese tastes like a petting suit.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Something that's, like, kind of complex. Sometimes I'm like, is it like petting zoo? And a lot of times people are like, no. And I'm like, I'm sorry, is it kind of complex? I don't need to eat like cheddar cheese. Yeah. I've prepared answers to all your questions.

I'm not going to be like stumbling around here. Don't worry. Amazing. Well, I lost a bet on that one. I was like, wow, this guy's going to be fucking stumbling all over the place. Stumbling all over the place. We're going to get to know you a little bit better and ask you some of those. questions in a moment. First, a couple of stories we're talking about. We're going to look at some of the

Republicans saddest attacks on James Tilerico in the Texas Senate race. We're going to look at the latest attack, the latest genius way that hackers are attacking meta, which is just like asking them for passwords. We will look at conspiracies, specifically around the Denver airport. We did an episode on that in Mission Impossible. I know. So we want to get your tape because there's recent news that the Denver airport is opening its Illuminati tunnels to the public, which is going to be very disappointing to a lot of people. Oh, yeah, because they already had time to clear out all the Illuminati shit. That's right.

Exactly. That's just like a regular tunnel. All of that, plenty more. But first, Jonathan, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? All right, so I looked up my search history. The first thing on it was, what is the daily zeitgeist? So I figured that out. Then Jack O'Brien Feet.

Okay. Oh, buddy. I hope you didn't find any results. It's not great shakes down there. And then the next thing was toe fungus varieties. Uh-huh. You have no idea how real that is. Then how come some of my email addresses and my address book are not populating into my iPhone address book?

Not very illuminating, but I think a lot of people could identify with that. Oh, man. I could definitely identify with that. The blue voter guide, because today is Election Day, primary day here in California. And I dropped off my ballot yesterday, waited to the last moment, because that was the strategy that they advised in case big things change. And, you know, we have three front runners for governor, one is a Republican, and it would be best to shut that Republican out and have the two front Democrats running for governor.

Yeah. So that's what's happening around here. Then, okay, I look up backrooms. I wanted to find out more what the big deal about the movie Backrooms is. Now I know. Yeah. What did you find out? Are you going to see it?

I just got to see it, but I'm not going in the theater to see it. Are you kidding? It's kind of a hard one. Yeah, it's very vibes-based. There's not a lot of, there's, it's like, yeah, furniture store and then parallel dimension. That's just not a movie theater movie for me.

I might go see Mandalorian and Grogu in the movie theater, but otherwise the newsfield Disclosure Day is like, that's a movie theater movie. It's coming. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't like that. And apparently it's like his best movie in 20 years. But I looked up something called the strategist

fallacy. I subscribe to a daily blog called Strength and Numbers from a statistician named G. Eliot Morris, and it's a progressive liberal viewpoint at looking at all of the political number polls. And it's fascinating. It's also generally pretty upbeat from a Democrat point of view. And he refers to something called the strategist's fallacy. And so what that is, That is, is the belief by political scientists that the tweaking little things about, oh, the candidate, he should speak more about gas prices of like 10%, and if you spoke a little bit less about transgender sports, then that'll make the difference. And the strategist's fallacy is saying, these strategists are just focusing on the fringe. of the fringes of what voters are really paying attention to. And it's stuff that is out of their control, out of the strategist's control.

The fallacy is that they can control or advise their way to success when it's really much larger things. And generally just the character and personality of the candidate, not the issues. And the perception of, well, competency or number one issue for a lot of races. is who can beat the Trump candidate, who can beat the MAGA, who's best position to meet the MAGA candidate. But my kids are voters now, one of them for the first time just now, and they both are kind of single-issue voters in the environment,

environmentalism, but not entirely because they love the environment, as we all should, but because that is a signifier of other issues. someone who votes right, what I'll call right, on the environment, generally is on the right side of all of these other issues as well. And I'm not going to pull punches here and be like, well, I mean, right to me or my point of view what's right. No, this is another fallacy that we see in the press. There is objectively right and there is objectively wrong. There isn't two sides to everything. There's objectively true and there's objectively a lie. There's not baseless claims or unsupported position.

There's truth and there's lies. Yeah. First of all, the strategist thing, one of the craziest anecdotes I ever heard was on one of those like crooked media podcasts where they were talking about how the first thing that a political strategist does when they meet a candidate is like look in their phone and, like add up all of the money of the people who are in their contact list, like, see how many, like, millionaires and billionaires are in there. And, like, when you think, if you take for granted that, like, it doesn't make really that much of a difference,

who the candidate or what the candidate's positions are. And it's just, like, a foregone thing based on that. It's just them being like, all right, how much money can I, like, make off of the person? Can you afford me? Like, it's very straightforward, like, any job. If you're just like, yeah, you want to work with me? Let me look at your phone and look at how much money you have. That would be that would be seen as a little bit too like on the nose and transparent, but in the world of like political strategists, they're like, no, no, no, no, this is just for, because complex reasons, you know? Well, I mean, that is probably the number one defining factor of successful

candidate is how much money they can raise, right? Sure. But not always anymore. I see a lot of changes there too. Well, yeah, a lot of candidates just go from small, small donors, individual donors, and like the old school version of like, do you got like three people that are willing to kick in millions and like jumpstart this thing? Yeah. But yeah, I do think generally with young people, we've underestimated how much the environment matters to that. Like even when people are like, anxiety, like this young generation has like more anxiety and like is more fucked up than previous generations mentally, I really think what is happening with the environment and how just impossible. The current system seems to make it like with regards to like doing anything about that has

more to do with that than people realize, but instead they're just like, I think it's their phones, which I think the phones aren't helping, but I do think. Yeah, to just say it's the phones is a complete disservice. Yeah, yeah. I think they're very smart and have good. reasons to feel anxiety about the state of the world. Yeah. But yeah, that's the other thing is it doesn't, the things that are really affecting

the voters who it's about turnout. It's not about changing their mind. It's just about getting them out to vote. And what's affecting them are the things that are very low cost. Right. Yeah, right. You know, well, sadly, AI viral videos or whatever. So what the effective.

this is money, I think, has changed. Oddly, this season, I've been invited to a lot of political fundraisers, which I never had before. I don't, nothing's changed about my financial status. I'm still not a great target to donate a lot of money to campaigns, but I've gone to some of them because it's interesting to meet the candidates. And Nithya Rahman, I'd met her before. I just went to go into that fundraiser, hearing her speak, not in a debate setting. That was a real payoff benefit. I did vote for her. Yeah, we had her on recently.

Oh, okay. Very good. We almost were going to host a fundraiser here for her, but, you know, that's a lot of work. Yeah, right? You're like, ah, that's a lot of work. John, what is something you think is underrated? All right. Let's look at my list.

Well, we were talking before this started about train travel as being underrated. Now, in America, our trains, need to be. a big upgrade, but long distance train travel, I mean. I love taking the, I haven't done it for a while, but the train up to San Francisco from L.A., one of the most scenic train rides and you can be in the double-decker and so you can great view. Food's terrible and it takes weirdly like 12 hours to take a train from long time of San Francisco. But if you're in no hurry, and when we used to be making Children's Hospital regularly, Rob Cordry and I and whoever else from the writing staff we could get to come with us would take a train cross-country and have either at the beginning

or the middle of the end of the writing process, kind of a brainstorm, long-distance brainstorm trip. It takes two overnights and you switch trains in Chicago. But I loved it. You would see things you can't see from the car, you can't see, you just are visually seeing the world in a way that's so relaxing. I got no work then. I just stare out the window. And you meet a lot of interesting people on the train. The train, they go out of your way to seat people for meals. Even if all the other tables are empty, they have to fill up the foretops. And so you meet people. And it's like, hey, who are all these people from across country?

Is that why there are so many cows in that season of Children's Hospital? Yeah. And then I'll throw in two more. DTF St. Louis, HBO Mac show starring Jason Bateman. It's excellent. It's a mystery. It's a drama.

The acting is amazing. It keeps you guessing. Everything is just spot on. The title sucks, but the title does relate to the show. It's a limited series. You know, it's a, it's a mystery. And a show that I work on regularly, and I watch always last week tonight with John Oliver,

being able to laugh at the news is one of the best ways I can deal with the news. And it's, he gets into the depressing stuff, but at least it is entertaining. Does good work. Yeah. They deserve all those Emmys. A job about Daniel O'Brien, who was one of our lead writers. is it cracked and is one of Libraters over there. Related to you?

No, no relation. Yeah. Oh, all right. Just a lot of O'Brien's out here. Yeah. Also unrelated to Conan, both of us. With train travel, one of the, like, you really get a look at, because, you know, like the highways are built around, you know, like, they were built and, like, towns

bloomed up around them. But, like, train tracks, they're, like, cutting through a version of the world that, like, doesn't really exist. anymore, you know? And so you're like seeing old, like, dilapidated buildings and, like, just really, like, it's a bisection of the country that you would, like, not otherwise see. I second that recommendation quite a bit. It's like the back of the buildings as opposed to the front of them.

Yeah, exactly. And you never see that. Yeah, yeah. You're just, like, going through the back of a field that, yeah. I lived in New York for, well, decades, and my parents lived. outside DC. And so that was always a train trip going back and forth. It was the fastest way to go, even if you weren't on the metro liner.

And, yeah, you weren't seeing nature. You weren't seeing beautiful landscapes, but I still found it fascinating. You're seeing these industrial rundown areas. And it's just, you can see in people's windows. Right. Yeah. And you're not watching the road because you're driving. Yeah, that section that goes through Philly is very interesting.

I was like, yeah, totally. Yeah, what is something you think is overrated? All right. I haven't watched Euphoria. I assume that's overrated.

You are correct. Okay. You know, the Freedom 250 concert is really overrated. I just don't think that's going to be so great. While I agree with you, I am trying to move these tickets that I bought to it. So could you just like keep that quiet for a little bit

until I get somebody to buy these? You're upside out of those things. I was in it for the young MC performance, and once he backed out. The Met Gala, I'm tired of how much news space is attributed to something that Mom Dani was right not to go to it. Like, it just, this is why the rest of America who doesn't go to the Met Gala hates elites and hates coastal elites. It's just, I don't know. The Mets doing fine financially. Well, that was a thing, right? They were like, we're fully funded.

Yeah. Like, there's no need for this thing. We did an icon episode, yeah, about Anna Wintour. And like, what the dirty little secret is like the costume institute that gets funded by that has like last year was like, guys, we have like too much money right now. Could you, could you like stop donating money? And they're like, all right, we'll find something else to put it towards. But it's not, it's not necessary. They've like turned it to this. massive cash behind us. And it's clearly just no one's there because they believe in the cause. It's just a competitive showoff thing, which, and forget how much money goes into making the costumes and all of that, but just raise the money for, I don't know, scholarships.

Oh, then it becomes any other fundraiser, right? Yeah, yeah. Fundraisers replaces that. For good. But you do it at the Met. Great. Call it the Met Gala. Sure.

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And we're back. We're back. And so a couple high visibility Instagram accounts got hacked, including Barack Obama, his White House account, accounts belong to Sephora, the makeup brand, U.S. Space Force chief master sergeant, John Bentivenna. All right. What a name. Hell yeah. That feels like that's just, that's like the pop hat of names. Like, you know that giant pop hat that's like every, I need to be.

the tallest person in the room. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Chief Master Sergeant. All right, all right. Space man. Your Space Force. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But anyways, they got hacked, and they apparently had an accomplice helping them from the inside,

and that is, of course, meta's AI chat bot. Oh, man. So. And they're just talking about how this meta AI is, it's going to make everything easier, man. It's going to make everything easier. And all they had to, what did they, they're just polite to it, basically? Yes. So they just asked it, I believe, is the technical term. Is the hacker term?

Yeah. So Telegram users have been sharing screenshots of how they can easily hack meta accounts by asking the chatbot to, quote, change the email address associated with the target account, then just requesting a password change. Just like nothing else. I mean, I don't think any of us were trusting Facebook meta before this. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, they were already risked.

There was a book called, was it, terrible people, awful people, written by someone who was high up in Facebook for a while and then left, and it's all, like, this isn't accidental. All of the stuff that Facebook has been accused of isn't like, well, we're still figuring out the technology. We don't know. No, careless people. Careless people.

Thank you. We are going to abuse the power of this platform. form, we are going to intentionally try and affect politics in this country and other countries. We move fast and break things. That's Facebook's motto. Their official motto is move fast and break things. Like, that was like organizing principle in the early days. And like, I think what we've learned is like that was actually them putting too nice a spit on it.

They were actually breaking things on purpose. not like move fast and like some things get broken, but then we use those mistakes to like learn. It's like, no, we break things. We see that they're broken. We don't care as long as we're still making a lot of money. Yeah, and break it a little bit more. Stomp on it a little bit more.

Yeah, yeah. And then play with those pieces. But I mean, yeah, the fact that something like Barack Obama's account gives to be like, hey, man, this is Barack Obama. This is my email address. Just send me the password recently. And it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. But this is just a thing, like, speaking of moving fast and breaking stuff,

like that feels like the tech industry has never backed away from that. And they're so excited about the idea of AI, that they're going to be turning more and more things over to AI, whether or not that is advisable in the least bit. And nobody really knows. Nobody's going to be able to definitively say, know it's not a good idea until Barack Obama's

Instagram account has been hacked or worse if you can imagine such a thing. Yeah, I mean, Sephora. I imagine how they're feeling over there. Just crazy though, too, that like there's no, like you can't even get to a human half the time with like meta stuff. They're like, no,

the AI, I'll do everything. It's like, no, no, no. It's not even fucking understanding what I'm trying to say right now. I need to talk to a human being right now who can actually handle this. Yeah. Three months ago, Meta announced that the company would be pushing AI support to all accounts across Facebook and Instagram, giving it, quote, the ability to reset passwords and perform other critical account maintenance functions. The press release bragged that AI assistants can actually help you take action instead of traditional help centers that just point you to articles.

Yeah, can take action, man, like hijacking Barack Obama's Instagram account. But, like, so Barack Obama wants his Instagram account. was hacked, could not, like, speak to a human to be like, hey, this is not me. Could you? Sure, sure. It's Barack Obama, dickhead. Yeah, yeah. Nice try.

Yeah. Anyways, that is a frustrating world that we're, I feel like we don't have anyone hitting the brakes on the AI stuff, other than, like, people who write articles, but not the people who are, like, actually investing money. But it's just like the worst ad for your AI tools when it's, it wasn't even something so nuanced than merely being like, I'm just going to present myself as the rightful account holder

of a thing I'm trying to hack, and that's all it takes. There's no other real measures to kind of prevent something like that. And I'm like, yeah, we don't need that. And once there's one vulnerability with the AI, like everybody can exploit that. Whereas in the past, you know,

you find one person who's willing to do this. They get like reprimanded or something. I'm like, that gets changed. But with AI, it's like you find the vulnerability and then like you can just exploit it over and over and over again into before anybody notices it. Right. Which seems bad, Miles. We'll see.

Well, what's the new Claude thing that they're rolling out? That is, I'll look up the name while you guys are bullshitting next, but it's, uh, uh, supposedly there will be no security left. It will be able to crack any account, any password, any, any firewalls. Right. That's good. Great, great, great.

We think that's it. We're actually, Oh, is that part of like mythos or whatever, that project? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And what do they claim is the benefit of that? Like this thing with, with Facebook, I do remember Zuckerberg being like, well, why would you want privacy? Are you doing something bad?

I don't understand. Right. And it's like, well, the fucking time. He wants privacy. All right. Yeah, he certainly, I mean, he's bought, you all of your emails. He's bought entire blocks of. mansions just so that nobody can be anywhere near him and his family. Peter Thiel is moving to

Argentina. So, yeah, they seem to value their own privacy. Good look. Good look. I love when people who might be evil, we're like, I'm going to Argentina. Actually, you know what? Story tradition of real good guys fleeing to Argentina. That's right. And it's a wonderful culture there. Yeah. I mean, I like that. It's a nice place to live probably. Hey, I love. You like beef? Get out there. Yeah. Get out there. That's right.

You know when they say, where's the beef? Argentina. Yeah. That's exactly where it is. The Patagonia moment. Let's see. The Republicans are trying out attacks on James Tilerico in the Texas Senate. Yeah.

Trying out. It's there's, they're running out of ideas, man. So stale in their rhetorical attacks recently on candidates. But it feels like they're tailored to appeal to like a male gym teacher born before 1960. It's like Trump was like, he's got six genders is what he said. I think last week we talked about someone being like, he's vegan. He's got six genders. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's because he said something about God having many expressions, like forms of expression. Like you have any genders how many genders is James Tyler? And then I think in Trump's brain, he goes, well, he's got six

genders, Tyler Rico. He's also a vegan. That's like when he claims that he wants transgender for everyone. Is that one of his claim, one of the things that he says, transgender. for everyone. Yeah. Like, again, as if that's like a, like a happy Honda days campaign that they do.

It's like, hey guys, it's Pride Month. It's transgender for everyone. And now, you know, they're just doing this like, just the most fucking

surface level attacks on like masculinity to try and be like, yeah, and that's why this guy shouldn't be here. On Newsmax recently, on the Todd Stern's show,

he was like, I think I've got a way to like really, last week I was talking about how Benny Johnson was sort of like, I know how to get this guy so tripped up on a debate stage. I'm going to ask him, is God a man or like just these really stupid things? Oh, and can we see your girlfriend? Because everyone's obsessed with James Talleyico's girlfriend because he's like,

I'm keeping that part of my life private. They're like, oh, oh, oh, you got no girlfriend? Oh, that's weird. That's weird. Wink, wink, wink. And everyone's like, what do you, what's the implication here? Wow. James Tala rico's space, the very,

first Google autocomplete is girlfriend. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So then wife. Yeah, then wife. Yeah, then boys, then age, then partner. Jesus Christ. So Todd Starns also jumped in there and being like, this guy, I think might be a little,

like not like a big straight warrior man. The sort of lower third while this guy is talking says, tofu, Tilariko flips on meatless campaign. And here's Todd Starns being like, I think, I think I know if I, It's something we should ask, Tyler Rico, on the debate stage. Sure. Who's going to be anchoring the first debate between those two? But my first question, if I was invited, would be Mr. Talariko.

Now, have you now as a 37-year-old man finally come to terms with your manhood? Or do you, sir, perhaps I don't know, have an affinity for frilly underpants? What's up with that? What? Where did that come from? This guy, by the way, this is the guy who's talking just for people who aren't watching to picture like just sculpted out of marble, absolute alpha man. Yeah, marble was made of cookie dough.

He was fully sculpted from that. Frilly underpants, maybe he likes frilly underpants. That's not going to connect with people of most ages. They're like, what the fuck is frilly under? Yeah, they don't even know what it is. Yeah, I'm like, what are we evoking here? I'm picturing like Looney tunes where like Bugs Bunny's doing dress up or something. By the way, I'm sure he wears boxer briefs.

Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But are they frilly, okay? Do they have... Do they have... Do they have a frill? I wear tea backs for Taurico. I like to have my yikes out.

I don't like panty lines when I'm wearing my slacks. Tommy Tuberville, who he must have CTE just from coaching football, didn't do any better when he attacked, like, again, this whole line of attack on like, the Democrats, man, like they gave up on men or whatever the attack du jour is. But this was in line with the Talley Rico thing. This was Tommy Tuberville's attack on the mainstream Democrats. And that they've, this was again, the lower third of this segment was, Dems have a men problem.

Well, first of all, the Democrats have left the building. They're now called the socialist, globalist Democrats. Oh, you know that. And it's just unfortunate. they've left her base, Will. They left her base of middle class and union workers. And now their new girlfriend is illegal aliens and women. That's my new girlfriend.

Their new girlfriends is women. That's a good fit, right? Oh, yeah. Well, your new girlfriend is women. What? And look like you said Democrats have a man problem. That's a problem. Yeah.

The end of a new. John, that two, brother, they got an amen problem. They're not saying it enough. Getting on their knees. And they got an amen problem. Their new girlfriend is what their new girlfriend should be, is amen. Their new girlfriend is women. Yeah.

Okay, sure. All right, buddy. Yeah, that was cutting, cutting, Tommy. Their new girlfriend is pre, those Republicans is teenage girls. Yeah. Yeah, right. And then they, No.

Their new girlfriend is Epstein Files. Oh, they don't like talking about that. Yeah, I'm sure the- It'll come back around. Yeah, I'm sure the attacks will get much more depraved as we get closer to election day. But the first poll since the Republican runoff happened in Texas, had Talley Rico ahead three points over Paxton.

So the statistical tie at the moment. So I'm sure maybe they're A-B testing. We'll go freely underpants. We'll go, he's vegan. he has nine genders, and then I'm sure they'll find a line of attack that doesn't work and go with that. He has six genders. He's vegan and weird.

I think they find any real skeletons in his closet? What happened to good old opposition research where you looked for real things? I mean, this guy's probably they, I'm sure you know they've found, they've done anything they can, right, to sort of like unsettle this guy and sort of change the optics. But the best they can do is he's keeping his relationship private. And he's vegan. I don't know.

I'm not sure exactly how to pronounce that. Yeah, I don't know. We're going to come back to that one. Is he from Las Vegas? Let's take a quick break. We'll come back and we'll get to the real conspiracy theories about how the Illuminati is running the world from underneath the Denver International Airport. We'll be right back.

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Now, the piece of evidence that I've seen are they got a scary horse outside, scary horse, And there's, what's it called, though, Jack? Bluopher. Yeah. Uh-huh. I mean, it's actually officially titled. It's officially titled Mustang, but the conspiracy theory gave it the name Blucifer because it's a blue horse.

And its eyes do glow red. Yeah. Here's something you may not know about that, but it killed the artist who made it. It fell on them? When they were craning it, lifting it out of his studio, a cable broke, and it swung and it killed the artist. Oh my God. Okay.

I'm back on board with the conspiracy theorists. That's so haunting. Does it? Its eyes actually glow red, right? That's not a thing that's being added for artistic effect. They're red. They're not glowing red. Yeah, right, right, right.

I do like the idea that's just doing like the based meme, like from the internet, just like the glowing red eyes. Yes. The other big thing is that there is a secret network of tunnels underneath the Denver airport that people have decided would probably be where the Illuminati, the powers that be go to not on any of the secret islands that they all own. And we're on the billion dollar yachts that they own. But underneath the Denver airport is probably where they go to hatch their schemes. And also, I think there's some theory that like they're somehow immune to like nuclear

warfare. Oh, they could serve as like a bunker of some kind. So it's like where they go. But, Jonathan, is this something that you were aware of prior to your work on Mission Implausible? Probably only in the back of my head somewhere. But you're right, Jack. We did do an episode of it on Mission Implausible because it's such a classic conspiracy theory. And I talked to people at Denver Airport. I talked to some journalists who had visited it. And then I also also talk to people who construct underground bunkers for survivalists. And I got pretty in depth in it as kind of a researcher. And here's my conclusion is that there isn't a bunker like that under Denver International Airport,

but there is somewhere else. Maybe not 22 miles of area. but that is how you would have built it, cut and cover. You dig a whole, perfect situation for them to do it. The only thing that doesn't add up is, why would you need to put an airport on top of it? A big international airport on top of it. And I mean, the reason people think is so that all the rich people can fly in

and there's a place for them to land. But you don't need the world's biggest, the country's biggest international airport to allow rich people to fly in and land. Rich people love to fly commercial in my experience. Yeah. Right. And also, there's a rumor that is a train, underground train tunnel between that and the,

what's the bunker, the military bunker that? Norad. Norad, which is spitting distance away. Maybe there is. I don't see what the benefit would be. But I came away thinking, like, yeah, physically this could have been done. done. Logically, it wouldn't have been there. And here's the thing that we come up with about so many conspiracy theories. Too many people who are in on it would have to have to

know about it. You can't just keep all of these construction workers and be like, look, you just work on this area and you won't know about anything else. People would know. and the rule of thumbs with conspiracy theories if more than three people know about something, it's going to get out. Sure. So somehow that information would have leaked out,

but there's just so much artwork in the airport and a lot of it people think, okay, this proves it, this proves it's people expect a society to collapse or whatever. There's just so much artwork that statistically you will find some that support pretty much any position you would have. Yeah, one of the pieces of artwork that they point to

is a mural called Children of the World Dream of Peace. Sounds innocuous enough, but there is an individual painting. It's a series, and one of the paintings has children sleeping as a giant skeleton soldier holds an AK-47 over them and is like swinging a sword down at them, And people are like, the clues were all there, Mr. Policeman. They gave us all the clues. But yeah, I don't know.

It is a bit of a wild painting to have in an airport. In an airport. Airports are always like kind of dancing that line between like, we got this like local artist who's like really challenging to like create a work of art. And then like sometimes it's like, whoa. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They really went off on that one. By the way, the Blue Mustang's eyes do light. light up. They're illuminated red eyes.

Alumin what, Jack? Illuminati's the red eyes. Oh, okay. Okay. All right. So the other problem with, does anyone see this show Paradise? I just started watching it with Sterling K. Brown? Yeah.

It's a fun show. And the first season anyway, and a lot of the sex season takes place at basically a version of this, what people say is underground in Denver, where all the elites had secretly built this city that they can live in and wait out until the earth is habitable again for like a generation or two. First of, and aside, from watching this stuff and talking to people about this stuff, I think I would rather just take my chances on the surface, even if that is, like, instant death. It just seems so miserable.

But the moment that shit starts going down, the concept of money has no meaning. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, all right, a picture, you, Jack, are in, I don't know, you're in Minneapolis. You hear that there's nuclear war starting. Everyone knows there's nuclear war starting, and you're like, shit, better get to. It's cold up there. Better get to Denver Airport. All right, where's my pilot?

Hey, pilot, fly me to Denver Airport. and then leave. Yeah. Get out of here and don't tell anybody. I've got a better idea. You stay here. I'll get my family. We'll fly to Denver.

There's no, there's no such thing as an employee employee. Or let's say you trick everyone into it. Now people are in the bunker. And then it's like, all right, you're my security guard. No, I'm not. You're my security guard.

Yeah. How about that? Yeah, we had Douglas Rushkoff on, who wrote that book, Survival of the Richest of, like, the Escape Fantasies of Tech Billioners. And that's a good one. He was bringing that up, too. I was just sort of like that, even these guys are like, well, what do we do?

Like, give them exploding shop callers. So they're like, or do we say we have the only key for the food? So if we're gone, no one gets food, like having to game out what happens when it becomes about purely survival. Because everyone at the end of the day, you're going to be Billy Zane at the end of Titanic. Okay. And the guy's going to be like, your money is no fucking good, bro. Everyone's fucking about to go down. Get the fuck out of my face.

Right. Like, all right. Well, instead, we'll have pass codes to get into the food vault. And you'll have to get that. I'm memorizing. It's like, all right, well, how many limbs will you allow to be cut off before you give them that pass code? Right, right, right. We talk about this, there's this interview with a Silicon Valley, like venture capital, millionaire, who is just like, like,

One of the only conversations I hear consistently at these, like, parties with millionaires and billionaires in the tech industry is, do you shoot the pilot? Like, when the pilot takes you to your bunker, do you shoot them? So, Jonathan, they've gamed that out, actually. They're one step ahead of you. I want to give our listeners all the clues because there's some pretty compelling stuff here also. The runways are supposedly shaped like a giant swastika. How does that help them in any way? The clues.

They like to do clues. That's one thing we know about the people who control the world. They love Easter eggs. They're like Taylor Swift, man. Why do you think they drew the dollar bill like that, you know? Yeah. It's the clue. I mean, if you only fill in lines that would make a swastick of the numerous roads and structures in the airport,

I mean, you could make all kinds of shit out of this. But they're like, look at that, dude. It's a completely imperfect lopsided swastika. It's the most lopsided, shitty swastika ever. They, but yeah, the tunnels are the main thing. I had never read the actual origins of the tunnels. And it's just a failed project by United and the Denver airport. United was like, hey, why don't you create like automated, an automated system

that like takes all the luggage and like transport it, transports it exactly where we want it to go. And they tried it and they were not up to the task. It fucked up constantly. Bags were constantly being sent to the wrong, put on the wrong flight. And so they had to give up. And then they started just using the tunnels for like people driving cars, like the same thing that happens at every other airport.

It's just like now. happening in tunnels that also have these big conveyor belts that nobody uses in them now. Yeah. I mean, the terminals are so, I mean, because if you have to take that train underneath the airport, you know, if you're going from terminal to terminal, like the other thing is, too, is like, if that train goes down, a lot of people are missing flights and it turns into chaos, although they say it works, you know, it's working 99% of the time, but that 1% could just cause so many issues.

So I probably like, yeah, I guess we've got to maybe open up the tunnels, just sort of a backstop to that. Yeah. But opening up the tunnels feels like it's bad for the conspiracy theory industry. There's a good screencap of a YouTube page that our writer jam brought that says, I saw what's under the Denver airport and the person is giving a shocked look in the image. Concrete. There's another one.

The truth under Denver airport. And there's a like literal like cartoon child. devil walking through a corridor. This depiction of like a demon is weird because it looks like the tail is coming from the center of its back, which is a little bit odd. Yeah, the tail is too, yeah, I don't know how

they've constructed this. It feels like they constructed it from too tall a dinosaur for the tail. So now the airport has tried to make a fun thing about it. Hey, come to Denver airport and meet the aliens. And it's, all right, great.

But conspiracy theorists will say, that's exactly what I'd do if I wanted to throw them off the scent. That's right. Lean into it. Lean into it. They've been playing into the conspiracy theory. There's an ad or a sign that was posted as they were, you know, doing construction somewhere. And, you know, there's always fun signs to apologize for construction.

It's like, excuse our mess. Yeah, right, right. We're just a— We're in the process of getting beautiful for you. Yeah, exactly. They always decide to get cute with those signs. And the Denver airport, no different. They said, thanks for being patient.

The lizard people keep stealing our tools. I mean, that's what. That's fucking exactly what they'd fucking say, Jack. It's because they fucking are. Like a conspiracy theory is like, see? Hey, man, where's that jackhammer? Fuck, the lizard people stole it again? Fuck, God damn it.

A good conspiracy theory is one in which every counter argument actually just reinforces the belief of conspiracies. That's right. That's right. Exactly. So they've got a perfect one right here, you know. Yeah. Oh, God, get us in those tunnels, man. Get me down there.

Sounds like it's going to suck. I'll fight these lizard people, man. Just get me in there, bro. Let me bang, bro. Let me bang, bro. I'll fight them all, bro. By the way, if there was nuclear, the EMP blast from nuclear war, would make the jet planes inoperable.

Yeah, right? Yeah. If you really want to get into it. Yeah, right, exactly. Cars won't start. Yeah. That's why I'm also like when I just, I just watched the Bone Temple, the 28 years later one.

And I'm like so glad because I, this was like my weird pear brain thing when I, like in college, I was like, bro, when the fuck, like EMP is it, bro, I got this vinyl collection dog. Yeah. Fucking MP3. And all he had was like Duran Duran. Like, you know, like if I think we're going to.

Is that what happens in the movie that they can only listen to vinyl? He's got these vinyl, but he's... Is he cranking it? A little bit, he had to start it, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then it's... I think you might have a solar panel somewhere.

Yeah. Maybe, maybe, but he's doing it. He's doing it. But he's just listening to the same few albums over and over. Yeah. Yeah. That's what we used to do. I used to...

I had my CD book and then it got stolen and I had the CD that was in my car CD player. Forever. The soundtrack of your car. forever. That's right. Jonathan Stern, such a pleasure having you on the day. Yeah. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Okay.

So Mission Plausible. It's an IHeart podcast. It's also on YouTube. And we put that up every week. I'm not a big social media guy, so I'm not looking for people to follow me. But I'll promote some stuff. This is an older one. Five years ago, we did a show.

show called Medical Police, which is a spin-off of Children's Hospital. It's on Netflix, but I'm always reminding people about a worldwide pandemic, came out in January 2020. Wow. We created it, I guess, fictionally. A comedy about a worldwide pandemic. That's exactly right. And I love it. September 13th on Adult Swim is a new live-action sketch comedy series called The Terror's of Jordan Mendoza. Earlier than that, in beginning of August, there's a new microdrama vertical platform

called A Twist, and they're doing some typical romantic drama, microdramas, the verticals, and they're doing a bunch of other interesting stuff, and I am doing a parody, a comedy version of making fun of microdramas. And that'll go up in August. We actually just finished shooting it two days ago. Temporarily, maybe permanently called my billionaire kidney. So that, I guess these are the things I'm promoting right now. Those are good things that.

I always prefer to have more to promote, but take what I can get. I do want to share with you, you say, what's a piece of media you've been enjoying? Yeah, I'm about to ask you that. You're one step ahead of me. Is there a work of media you've been enjoying? There's a few and I'll run through it really quick. Palmer trolls, Ben Palmer. He's on YouTube and he recently got some news for being on the FBI's watch list.

He created a website that people falsely believe is, yeah, you can report people you want that you think are illegal immigrants and should be deported. and he records these conversations he has with them, and it just really highlights not just the absurdity, but the evilness of so much of this. And it's funny. Yeah. And he does a lot of other things like that. Yeah.

We had them on a couple months ago, I think. And after that one where the, when like the woman called and was like, I think this kindergartner's parents is like, okay, okay, so yeah, you want the kindergartner, just writing this down, wants Kindergarner deported. Well, that makes it sound bad. Oh, sorry. I'm just writing what you're saying. Yeah.

Okay. Michael, my friend Michael Ian Black has a substack that's up every day, and it's brilliant. It's funny. It's political. It's heartfelt. It's everything that you would want out of Michael Ian Black. I also get Heather Cox Richardson's blog every day. She writes politically relevant and puts him in historical.

context. And I'm reading Cameron Crowe's autobiography Uncool and Griffin Duns' autobiography, the Friday afternoon club. I highly recommend those. And the other thing I never get tired of is John Stewart's Monday Night Daily Show, which I also watch on YouTube. He's like as good or better than ever. Yeah. So that's my, I know you only ask for one thing, but you just can't. Don't do that have mine. Yeah, that was great. You gave us all, you gave us so many. Thank you for that. Miles, where can people find you as their work in media? You've been enjoying. Yeah, you can find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. You can find me talking about 90-day fiance on 420-day fiance and talking about one of my favorite sports, European football,

and Ain't It Footy, with Jamel Johnson and Chris Martin. Work at me, I just did the use of AI with the, my, Roger who's running for Senate right now at Ron Philip Cousy on top piece guy at social posted there was like a picture of Mike Rogers at a campaign event like from that a journalist took and then there's the photo that the staff a staffer posted of him and it's obscenely altered like this guy oh my god he went from a middle-aged dude to like Hulk uh in between it's so stupid literally what it looks like doctors don't want you to know about yeah yeah yeah There's one trick.

This guy, bro, look at his lats. This guy's frigging winged. Also, look at his, look at his dick. They definitely made that bigger too. They had to do it all. They had to do it all. And yeah, a lot of people are just talking about like, yep, it's interesting what happens with AI tools in the hands of evil doors.

And that's probably like how he sees himself. You know, he probably looked at that and was like, yep, yeah, no, that seems right. That's what I thought. Yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. that you're right. I picture he got up, like someone did it, his assistant, whatever. It's like, yeah, that's nice. Then he got up the next morning. He's like, can you do it a little bit bigger? Yeah. It just doesn't, it's not quite there. And then just a lot of pulses. Nudging it. Yeah. That was probably the eighth text he got like by the eight, that was like a two in the morning. He's like, actually, you know, on third thought, I'm thinking maybe you can go a little bit tighter on the shirt, accentuate the biceps. Okay.

Yeah. Well, now the biceps are too big for the shoulders. So you got to make the shoulders bigger. Yeah, yeah. Let's all. I don't want to look like I only focus on biceps. You know what I mean? Like a full body workout. All right. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien, Blue Sky, Jack O, B, the number one Instagram. Jack underscore O underscore Brian.

I seed my works of media. I've been enjoying to the good gentleman, Jonathan Stern, from Los Angeles. Thanks. You're a very indulgent. You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zekegeist. We're at the Daily, we're at the Daily Zykeyes on Instagram. You can go to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it. And there at the bottom, you will find the footnotes.

Foot Notes, which is where we link off to the information that we talked about. In today's episode, we also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think the people might enjoy. Yeah, one of my favorite producers, Madlib is from the album Sound Ancestors. This track is called Road of the Lonely Ones. Just good, vibe-be, sample-based hip-hop, you know, just kind of, Start your week. Get into it.

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