The Daily Zeitgeist - My Trend Will Go On 8/12: The Olympics Closing Ceremonies, B-Girl Ray Gun, Trump Hacked, Kamala's "Fake" Support, Trump's Troubled Campaign

Episode Date: August 12, 2024

In this edition of My Trend Will Go On, Jack and special guest host Pallavi Gunalan discuss their respective weekends, the closing ceremonies of the Olympics, the stunning(ly bad) breakdancing performance from B-Girl Ray Gun, Trump's campaign getting "hacked" by Iran, Kamala's "fake" support, the NYT's article on Trump's bad last couple of weeKs on the campaign trail and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

so you don't you're in la but you don't know if the hollywood sign has changed colors i haven't looked outside i saw that on twitter like last night but i wasn't paying attention the whole thing the whole la thing was like so fake like they i mean i guess I guess it was by like they couldn't actually fly Tom Cruise warp speed back to Los Angeles but just like felt I don't know that first of all that they went

to Long Beach instead of Venice like they seemed to indicate they were going to Venice and then it was Long Beach so you're talking about like in the closing ceremony they had him like transfer it basically to la yeah yeah and so i didn't see the full thing i just saw him like rappelling into the tweets about it and that scared you and so you ran away and yeah stopped watching at that point yeah yeah um so there you're saying it was just like very fake which does feel very

hollywood yeah it just felt like so he got the thing right it just felt the whole closing ceremony in france was so like experimental art piece like what what are they trying to say it was like so slow they didn't give a fuck that they were making it just like an a wildly uncomfortable watch and then the second like tom cruise repels in and it's like quickly edited they're like yeah yeah yada yada yada like do the red dot flying across the globe like in indiana jones and then he's like skydives for no reason and makes the Hollywood sign a different color although we still don't know and there's no way to know really if that's actually happened to the Hollywood sign other than you looking out your window and I refuse to do

that I refuse to give Tom Cruise when I look out my window I see the Scientology building and that's enough attention Tom Cruise can get for me i just talked to myself what if he had done something to the scientology building that was the big reveal yeah he's like this is where the olympics are going to take place now yeah mtv's official challenge podcast is back for another season that's right the challenge is about to embark on its monumental 40th season, y'all, and we are coming along for the ride. Woo-hoo! That would be me,

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to this week trend edition of Der Daily Zeitgeist. It's a production of iHeartRadio. It's a podcast where we take a deep dive into American shared consciousness. It's Monday morning, Monday afternoon, depending on where you are uh i'm jack o'brien and i am thrilled to be joined by a very special guest co-host with the mo host a hilarious and brilliant stand-up comedian writer actor improviser it's palavi gunali it's you your favorite non-olympian ah come on you're you're an olympian in our hearts oh thank you so much i will drown i will drown in that pool that was just drown in front of

everybody well that's like there was that tweet that was going around that's like if you feel useless in your life just know that there's a lifeguard at the olympics that's doing nothing and it's like if i was anywhere near that pool you'd be doing a lot that pool's a lifeguard at the olympics that's doing nothing and it's like if i was anywhere near that pool you'd be doing a lot that pool's so deep or at least like like the diving pools i was i had the question how deep are those diving pools they look crazy deep um yes i feel like every time i saw this the swimmers go under i was was like, save them! And then they came back up and I was like, oh, they came back! Oh no, what's gonna happen? Oh, they're back! They're back! Yeah, that...

Swimming, I think, in particular, and there have been videos of this where they show you like, regular swimmers versus Olympic-level swimmers. Yeah. And it's just bonkers. Or Olympic-level swimmers from like the 1930s yeah or like the

track athletes yeah you know yeah i'm like they didn't have this the technology back then um they did not they they also yeah it was just like there were like five people in each town who knew how to swim and they they sent them to try and do the Olympic for doggy paddling. Yeah, exactly. Freestyle was really free. It was like, I don't know.

Is this something that was how they swam? Um, but we're going to talk Olympics. Um, but this is of course the episode where we, uh, let you get to know us a little bit better by telling you guys something that we think is overrated, underrated. Let's start with underrated, Pallavi. Do you have something?

I know I just kind of sprung this on you. You were not familiar with the format. Do you want me to kick us off? Either way, I have something i can talk about hit me with something you think is underrated cheap people we exist we're important we're getting you free shit yesterday i was at my dog rescue's like adoption event and it had like all these stalls and i just went around first thing i did fuck the dogs okay first thing i did wow i went around and i got what an attitude just taken for my dog i'm like the volunteer that's like trying to get them adopted but i'm like forget this i need free shit for my dogs yes and i was the only one of the the volunteers who like did like was very indian about it and

like was like hey can i get like another stuffed toy for my dog and i came away from that with a whole bag of swag came up on swag i feel like in every family there's like a cheap person who like haggles and gets stuff for their family and everybody's like oh my god this is so embarrassing and then they get all the free shit yeah i feel like come on we're out there we're the soldiers doing the brave work of debasing ourselves for free shit for you and do you put the stuff to use like you'll you'll actually use those stuffed yeah stuffed toys nice they already destroyed one yeah you know i have like a ton of treats that i got them of course yeah i'm advocating for all the people who can't you know talk to

the waiter themselves you know what i mean yeah we can't who feel too embarrassed to ask for like how about a it is my birthday it's my birthday or we could pretend it is if you're cool yeah yeah shout out to the cheap my underrated is I got two one is I think my brain was just like I don't smoke weed anymore but my brain just like has these periods

where I feel like I'm like having high thoughts and so my two underrateds are seashells and identical twins. They're like acid flashbacks, but like deep flashbacks. Yeah, where I'm just seeing it again for the first time through high eyes. So I'm down to shore with my kids and my kids are just running around you know obsessed with seashells my eight-year-old is into collecting broken shells uh which at a certain point is annoying because what the fuck am i going to do with all of these broken shells

like pave a bar parking lot in key west but um the more time I spent with him really looking at the seashells I feel like he's probably right like the sea just kind of spits out a bunch of artwork that is like a minus sixth grader art project artwork like it's better than 90 of the like sculptures i've ever made or really seen and like the colors or like the colors usually go together really well on the seashells and you're like you know what see nice job nice job i see your vision good pretty good most of the time i literally had this thought recently because when i was a kid i used to be that kid who collects all the seashells and like yeah even like my dad or whatever would bring a seashell back from like a beach he was on um and they are

like really beautiful and like all the different shapes and the fact that they're imperfect but still beautiful yeah like a little shard of one that you're like oh this thing was beautiful like the full version of this was unbelievable their homes to creatures their homes they are just a bunch of houses for mollusks tiny homes tiny tiny home they were on the tiny home wave before humans um yeah i think i think i just got older and calloused over by life and stopped having the wonder but i think i am wrong and the kids are right on this one and seashells are fucking cool um just straight up they do great work the ocean does great work every plus they've like been in the depths of the sea they've like seen some shit

and then you know came out beautiful and they still come out beautiful what does that say about us and then back to the olympics my identical twins won just watching synchronized swimming and they were like and this is our first of six different duos who are identical twins like they're so like being an identical twin is basically a performance enhancing drug for uh synchronized swimming which i don't know i wait so that was actually a thing like they were actually twins in synchronized swimming yeah there were multiple twins that were doing synchronized yeah um i saw that there were a couple track athletes um that were twins uh i forget what their names started with an s but they're like these gorgeous

women that were twins and track athletes why are all the track athletes so gorgeous i was like why is everybody so beautiful what the fuck is happening it's like when you see like nfl quarterbacks and a bunch of the nfl quarterbacks are all like really handsome you're like why are all these track athletes like the most beautiful humans i've ever seen it doesn't make sense we're gonna be like hey kid you got a face for track you know why a face for track doesn't make sense um but it did make me again, like have high mind, just the identical twins, like thinking about it again. I was like, this would be like, if it wasn't real, it would have been invented by a sci-fi

writer and it would have been like a mind blowing work of science fiction. Like what if there was a type of person who looked exactly like you, but also had your like same insides and a lot of like your same personality, like, I don't know. It's just a philosophy, philosophical, like mind fuck that we just, you know,

we we've lived with forever. So it's not that weird to us, but, um, yeah, I don't know. And then this like sent me down a rabbit hole of just weird olympic athlete hacks like apparently swimmers have to have really long torsos and short legs

because like everything below the waist is i guess useless so like michael phelps in person looks like he's walking around on his knees but he's got like wimping yama's person looks like he's walking around on his knees, but he's got like Wembing Yama's wingspan. Like he's just wild. Yeah. And then I just remember like at the time, everybody who was commenting on the Olympics, they'd be like, he's so graceful in the water and he looks like a fucking dog online.

He looks disgusting, like some sort of deep sea fish. Get the fuck off land michael phelps get back in the water we don't want to see you you look like shit pal um also water polo players have to have long forearms which is oh just so that they can yeah just so they can like throw i guess that like helps them with the which is interesting it's just like weird uh little details of the human body i never would have thought it's weird for those people like because everybody's like oh you're tall do you play basketball like that's a thing but nobody's

like oh you have long forearms get in the water check out those forearms there buddy yeah how do these people like find it's it's amazing to me when people find the thing that they're amazing at like simone biles you know yes like how like how she had the body for and the mental capacity and like all everything had to come together for her to be who she is yeah that's such a beautiful thing yeah i think i have to give my overrated to like every athlete that's not simone biles like when you see how fucking high she jumps it's truly incredible like she's jumping like 5x her height is to the boundary line because fuck that when she's jumping that high and she steps out of bounds like let her yeah like who cares give her the goal that's just what we do now if she steps out of bounds that's what we do now although she was so cool about giving you know she was so chill yeah she like bowed down to the

woman who won gold and was like really cool yeah um yeah fuck the boundary line um i got yeah we'll come back we'll talk about we'll do our olympic uh decompress. But, um, I got, I got real into it. I was, I was like refreshing the metal count over the weekend. Oh, that was a thing that you got into. I didn't, I didn't really care about that. Did China win that? No, we ended up tied with China for gold and then overall medal count. The United States ended up winning. So, but it was touch and go there for a little while. We needed that U.S. men's basketball title and they came through for us. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.

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is to listen to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Come hang out with me, Marcus Grant, and my pal Michael F. Florio as we give you all the info you need to absolutely steamroll your fantasy league and bring home a championship. You don't need to spend hours each day breaking down every stat and every stitch of game tape to set a winning lineup. That's our job. We'll provide all the insights you need to set the best lineups each week. All you need to do is listen to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast when it drops five times a week.

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My reaction, shock and awe. That sword was amazing. It was so beautiful. I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest, a podcast about the fall of Atari and the disappearing Sword Quest prizes. We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. It's almost like a metaphor for the industry and Atari itself in a way. Listen to the legend of sword quest on the I heart radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

And we're back and the Olympics are over. And we're back and the Olympics are over. Um, we got to, uh, watch a very weird, very French closing ceremony. Um, we got to meet Ray gun,

uh, B girl, Ray gun on the way out. Um, that was wild. Um, so just, let's just kind of go through

impressions, thoughts. As mentioned, Miles and I were talking about, I was not prepared for how into the Olympics I was going to be. And then, it kind of gets me every time, but this time in particular, I was

refreshing the medal count all weekend to see if the u.s was going to catch china um i had multiple conversations where i was like they should have like a gold derby or like a new york times election needle style list of like expected medals and remaining events because yeah they just like they don't because of the tape delay they're like not trying to be very forthcoming about when things are happening so you'll watch someone win a gold on tv and then like not know if that gold is already included in the total and like they're very loose with like live you know it says live sometimes when that shit is not live um but anyways i i have that

thought every four years where i'm like they should make it easier like someone should just have like a hacked together unofficial website you should be that guy you're seeing it happen i'm seeing it happen but i'm also not the sort of person who remembers to do that thing uh i was thinking that about the olympics in general is like it's really cool to be able to see all of these sports that maybe you don't regularly have access to or aren't uh popularized in the same way during those four years and then to be able to like get really into like i'm not out here like watching 200 meter race you know what i mean like i'm not out here watching synchronized swimming even though there may be events but it makes me want to go to more events in between because it does give you an appreciation

for all of these different um techniques and and mental fortitude that all of these different athletes have to have during those four years fucking bonkers like the way that they're just able to suspend themselves in the water like and just do whatever they want with their body like in time with one another is really uh i don't understand the timing of it because i don't know underwater like how do you hear the beat like you just counting like that's crazy that's raw dogging beats and rhythm that's that's i don't understand that yeah yeah their heads are underwater so they can't know they're just like kind of tracking one another um the yeah i learned something about an athlete and then if somebody walks into the room i act like i've always known that thing about them i'm like oh yeah she's uh she's she's the best

she would actually win the 400 hurdles if the other girls weren't even jumping over hurdles i started using the term repugnage like i knew what it meant this whole time yeah like a little josh the the the isn't it the the reposage rounds where they like it was like the rescue rounds for like the track runs like you would have the two qualifying and i didn't hear that i think i watched it usually without much audio so i had to listen to the commentary because some of it was so fun like watching um noah eagle noah eagle and duwayne Wade comment on things was so fun. Yeah. Cause Dwayne Wade was like,

I'm a Hooper. And Noah Eagle was like being really serious. They were great. I loved it, but it was like the right dynamic. Yeah. They, um,

the basketball was, you know, we, I think the last time we recorded the serbia game was happening um both the serbia game and the france game for the u.s basketball were like high points for sports fandom for me um those were really fun games oh my god it really felt like they like the u.s was like okay let me just like relax a little bit and then they had to like amp themselves up and and be like we're not going to be disrespected like steph curry like turned

into turbo mode in the last game yeah miles said it as the serbia game was going on and then a lot of people have since come to this but it really was like an avengers film like it was like yeah they were losing and then just just in time and like on command everybody's very special super power like came out and they were able to like do their thing um but yeah steph curry who had been uh not great in the olympics up to those last two games was so so awesome was like really you know proved that

he's the greatest shooter of all time greatest shot maker of all time the three he hit where he had like two people on him and he was like fading away and just like looked like he flung it up those like pictures were people on him and he was like fading away and just like looked like he flung it up um those um

those like pictures were insane if you've seen stills from it yeah um like trying to block it yeah yeah and um the french commentators on that were like steph curry the devil steph curry is done he's hurting us he's doing it to us again they kept calling him the devil and saying he was hurting the french i was like damn we really got under their skin um i do enjoy like that that's something that i've i still remember when he went off like early in his career against oklahoma the oklahoma city thunder And somebody was just like, Steph got a demon. That's all.

That's the only, and I've always remember that because that does, it's one of those things. Like sometimes my kids will have a temper tantrum like this where I'm like, Oh, I understand exactly why people believed in Satan before, you know, like when,

when, uh, before like we knew science and psychology and like i feel like steph curry is the other reason like something yeah like if you saw someone do that like 200 years ago you would definitely have to at least you know make sure that they could couldn't withstand like a boiling body body of water or something maybe all those salem witches were just like really good at track you know what i mean yeah maybe they're just like damn did you see the vert on her they were just synchronized

swimmers and took out some of our greatest athletes um and then of course i mean there's also the really cute chinese silver medalist in rhythmic gymnastics who saw the italians doing the like bite the metal with the side of the mouth and then was like made a audible like oh and then bit like put in her mouth like a cookie or like a pacifier or something it was really cute i love watching um the metal ceremonies because it's afterwards and like everybody is like just so excited to be up there and then like even watching the women's like weight lifting it just looks so beautiful i love watching women just like hug each other on the podium i love the hugs the hugs are humans crave hugs we crave like contact with one another uh and it's like you see it in athletics like you see it when like somebody's going to the free throw line in basketball and like they have to

touch every other member of their team's hand before they shoot and after they shoot and like they've done studies where that actually helps like it's like improv it's like i got your back on improv where right before you go on stage you pat each other on the back and you're like i got your back i got your back i got your back yeah um the only thing the the u.s men's basketball did zip zap zap also yeah you could tell yeah you could tell they were really in tune that's what one of their time that time out was for um that would be such a fun uh like patch adams like t like, cause I know Seth Curry has a show that's out, but it'd be so funny if that's like they were, there's a coach trying to get who was in improv.

Who's trying to get them to bond as a team. Oh yeah. Yeah. Like a Ted Lasso with an improv coach coaching in the NBA. Yeah. Um, there's, uh,

the only two, uh, moments that I will say didn't happen is jordan chiles is still a bronze medalist and nobody dunked on lebron and we can just move on you know what i mean we can just keep going lebron he was trying to take a charge i feel like i know i know over everybody's like oh my god it didn't happen people are like this is worse than 9-11 i know it's not quite as bad dunk denialists yeah he was doing he was so good that whole game he's they like lebron has gone up a whole new level in my mind like i've always been a huge lebron stan but like what he was doing some of the passes he was throwing throwing were so cool and he did it all with like a gray

old old ass man beard um i know i love so bad it's crazy that he's playing with his son that's insane that like that's how old he is and like he's been this good for this long it's crazy it's bonkers um all right and then of course there was ray gun uh dr rachel gun i think is her name um she so i've heard it said a bunch of times that they should let an average person compete in every olympic event for context uh they finally did it by accident in break dancing. Um, it did not go the way I would have expected. Uh, the, yeah,

I, I don't know. Hopefully you got to see this Australian break dancer before, um, they like pulled all the clips off social. I think there's still some floating around. Mostly it is people taking a video of their TV and just laughing. She basically was just like

there were serious breakdancers and then she looked like she was just making fun of them she looked like she was from malibu's most wanted like it was this white 36 year old phd woman who was i guess trying to prove a point which is the whitest shit ever is to to go into a space created by black culture and then act like you know more about it because you're being an academic about it and not appreciating the culture it just it really seemed like someone was like making fun like my you know uncle who's like break dancing that shouldn't be a sport like was watch breakdance and then was like oh yeah i can do that too this is you or like the comparison i saw a lot of people make is to like a five-year-old immediately after watching an actual breakdancer

like yeah be like oh yeah we'll check this out like that's kind of what it felt like the crazy thing is she got through like all of the trials and everything and so it just i like i don't understand like what she was trying to prove or what her message was and the thing is like i don't want to give air to it like i don't want to understand it i'm mad that she's famous i'm mad that she i let people are like she's like this is such a like a beautiful like a fun moment like it made it the olympics accessible no it's like demeaning to break dancers it's i think demeaning to like black culture like i don't i i'm i'm just like pissed that that spot was taken by her yeah it um it really reminded me of this naked gun umpire scene like where he like goes undercover as an umpire and like doesn't know

the rules of baseball and is just like kind of making it up as he goes along like he yeah i think roy wood jr made that comparison um the confidence the utter ineptitude uh just an amazing combination um i it's probably bad for break dancing i think you're right like it was the the fact that that was the thing kate people took away from break dancing rather than like the gold medal winner um is is a bummer um at the same time it was incredibly entertaining so yeah i don't know um and and it looks like break dancing's not going to be back in la unfortunately um that's so shitty this white lady like took it away it looks like breakdancing is not going to be back in LA unfortunately that's so shitty this white lady like took it away so they had already made that decision

ahead of time but yeah I blame Raygun yeah she didn't even like she just wore the Australian like warm up that they like gave all the Olympic athletes it was a,

it was a wild look. It felt like she stumbled into it for sure. Yeah. Like it felt like someone woke her up that morning was like, you have to break dance. What? It's like somebody joining a marathon. Yeah.

Here's a video of somebody else doing it. You need to be out there in 15 minutes. Um, anyways, yeah, here's a video of somebody else doing it. You need to be out there in 15 minutes. Anyways, NBC's still trying to make Jimmy Fallon happen. That was the other kind of bummer thing. But other than that, it's just so, I don't know. Did not need reaction shots of Jimmy Fallon during these super iconic basketball moments.

Like Steph Curry hit that shot, and then the NBC's like, cut away to Jimmy Fallon's like these super iconic basketball moments like Steph Curry hit that shot and then the NBC's like cut away to Jimmy Fallon's reaction shot he's like doing like he's doing like a song with the roots on the side he's doing bits yeah

but yeah and then they had him like narrating the closing ceremonies and just kind of like fucking up the vibes. He asked Katie Ledecky if she was going to fly home or swim home. And she was like, sorry, I didn't hear that. And he was just like, we just we love you so much. I respect that he bailed on the joke. Anyways. All right.

Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll check in with the Trump campaign and other news stories. We'll be right back. MTV's official challenge podcast is back for another season. That's right. The challenge is about to embark on its monumental 40th season, y'all. And we are coming along for the ride. Woohoo. That would be me, Devin Simone. And then there's me, Davon Rogers. And we're here to take you behind the scenes of... Drumroll, please.

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breaking down every stat and every stitch of game tape to set a winning lineup. That's our job. We'll provide all the insights you need to set the best lineups each week. All you need to do is listen to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast when it drops five times a week. If you're looking for a smart, fun, and entertaining path

to dominating your fantasy leagues, then look no further than the show straight from the source at NFL Media. Do it before it's too late. Subscribe now and listen to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast on the iHeartRadio app, on Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds,

Sword Quest. This wasn't just a new game. Atari promised 150 grand in prizes to four finalists, but the prizes disappeared. And what started as a video game promotion became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture. I just don't believe they exist.

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couple updates on that front um trump's campaign was hacked by Iran. And you hate to see it. Or did they just hand over documents incompetently? Right. Somebody just emailed them and asked for them. They're like, oh, this seems official. At phishingscam.com. According to the Trump campaign, they were hacked by Iran and issued a statement.

It sounded like so weirdly familiar i can't i can't put my finger on why it sounds so familiar but they were saying these documents were obtained illegally from foreign sources hostile to the united states intended to interfere with the 2024 election and so chaos through our throughout our democratic process um you'd think they would have like done something to like put it in trump's voice so it wouldn't sound exactly like the hillary clinton campaign when they were hacked by russia like that's so wild it's like it's it's like when melania stole um michelle obama's speech still my favorite speech the best she just like removed some words but like it it was no longer grammatical i think politicians should be able to do covers i think that's fair yeah yeah if we're still talking about the same issues we should still be able to use the same speeches um the

hackers apparently sent a shitload of documents to politico and while politico hasn't published anything they did give us the most appetizing little morsel in a description of what uh was in the documents they said one is a quote research dossier the campaign apparently conducted on jd vance it's just a bunch of uh testimonies from couches like there's just what if that's in there what if they're like look we have nothing to base this on um it's he he never wrote it but the guy has the vibes of somebody who fucks couches we can't explain it but just beware if one person suggests that even remotely suggests that on social media uh it's gonna catch on like if their intelligence was that good it's like the batman dossier on the rest of the justice league but it's just like a

file full of couch couch shit yeah um i don't know maybe it would be boring since they did end up choosing him so apparently whatever they found was not so uh was not enough to scare them off the like there's no way they read that there's there's gotta be like the only people that are competent maybe put to get put it together and then trump didn't read it he just was like what does my son want me to do yeah it also apparently has vetting of the vp candidates who didn't make it like marco rubio so uh should be interesting if that ever drops drops um but just a quick vibes check for the the race um it feels like and again you do hate to see it folks feels like trump and his supporters are really struggling right now um we're seeing a lot of energy for harris and walls and a lot of responses for Trump and team that seem pretty out of line with what is actually happening.

Um, you know, they're, uh, Harris. So apparently Harris had 12,000 people turn out for her rallies in Philly and Wisconsin, 15,000 in Detroit. Uh,

Vegas had 12,000 people inside, uh, 15,000 in Detroit. Vegas had 12,000 people inside UNLV's arena and they had to turn 4,000 people away because they were getting heat stroke because it was 109 degrees outside. Tim Waltz had to stop his speech in multiple cities and

be like, someone get that person water. Like a fucking beetle. It was like beetle mania like people are fainting in the front row and he's having to like point them out um yeah yeah but um meanwhile trump is like launching conspiracy theories about their crowd size claiming like the images and reports about kamala having big crowds or like digital manipulations he like posted a photograph of like this massive crowd outside of air force two like what you know on the tarmac and it does look altered like it just like the the picture is like a little crisp i

don't know if like they you know did, did some touch up work on it, but he was like, you know, just, uh, with it. He said, look,

we caught her with a fake quote crowd. There was nobody there. And, um, like all you would have to do is search, uh, on the internet for anyone, like a video of it.

And you would have been able to find that this was in fact a photograph from 15 000 people showing up in detroit uh for them it also is like he's using the same arguments that they're using in order to try to boost the numbers around his crowds which is he's saying like oh they turn them away i don't want to turn them away but they said they had to turn them away for his rallies and it's like what are they going to turn like four more people away like there weren't that many people outside yeah or like jd vance had a rally but it was mostly like press people um and it was just like because nobody wanted to be around him so it's just

like super awkward but it's crazy how the ratings invigorate trump like that's clearly his motivator for everything that like spices up his attacks like yeah he gets some like he it really upsets him that she is having these this energy and this crowd and these donations and things. Um, and he's still stuck on Biden. He's still posting about like Biden. Yeah. Wishing that Biden is going to like take the nomination back at the DNC.

Um, he, yeah, he just can't, he can't see the appeal of Kamala Harris and his supporters, like his most ardent supporters can't see the appeal of Kamala Harris because they're racist. And so they can't deal with it. Like they're really having a hard time dealing like making sense of it like they see the massive crowd they see people excited and they're like those people can't exist it does remind me of like how i think

a lot of like lib brained people greeted the rise of trump in like 2016 where they were like there's no way that many people are into him because i find him abhorrent you know um and because i thought racism was cured when we elected obama you know so like they couldn't deal with the crowd size because they just they were like well now he said something racist so certainly this will be the end of his campaign and it's like no no the racism is the point and that's why there's so many people there uh because america racist um did you see that video where he called kamala he was like in a golf cart and he called her a fucking bitch no do we have a video now i know

that there it's been reported so i want to talk about that new york times article because that is a banger uh from haberman and co at the new york times um they yeah it just talked about like what they call the worst couple weeks the worst few weeks of his campaign and one of the one of the details was that he was but was heard calling her a bitch behind the scenes but i i did not know that we had him on wax doing it yeah um my computer is frozen right now so i can't navigate to it but there is um there is a video of him and it's like clear that he didn't know he was being recorded because it was kind of like at waist level and someone outside of a golf cart is recording him and

he's in it he's talking about how you know he is a bigot and a fascist and all of these things but then we kind of kind of remove him from like that personhood of like the that person that you see in your daily life who actually has these like really dismissive dehumanizing feelings and then you see a clip of him be so casually disgusting and you're just like oh yeah this is like a real person and this embodies like real people that i have interacted with in my life and it gives you like a visceral reaction right of yeah like anger and fear and disgust with how this person actually views women how they actually view black and brown people and immigrants and everything you're just like yeah yeah there was just a poll that said that

people actually trust her more on the economy than Trump and I don't know the strength of the poll but the way it was agreed on the right was like well now we have proof that they're lying and weirdly the poll said that people trust Trump to make

them richer but trust Harris to run the US economy better. Um, and the New York post is like, well, well that doesn't make any sense at all. And like not, not making room for the idea that people might recognize that just like

tech tax breaks are actually bad for the economy overall. Like if there's no taxation and he's just doing the worst thing uh that everybody kind of secretly selfishly wants but doesn't actually benefit like the overall running of the country yeah i don't know or maybe the polls bullshit i think the american people hold different contradictory opposing thoughts at the same time a lot like how um i think there was some pull on like how they like view or treat the border like they want the border security but simultaneously if you're like hey this immigrant came through for this reason they're like oh yeah i want them here you know like they're people have a hard time conceptualizing

how policy affects them in a very real and day-to-day way and so they can hold these opposing thoughts where they think like the economy is this like big thing but trump's gonna get me rich you know right yeah yeah and also they're incorrect about trump getting you rich but yeah they're yeah they're like he's the rich money guy though so he's gonna make me rich but uh anyways uh yeah i want to get to this new york times article haberman and co reporting on the worst couple weeks um it opens with him at a meeting with some of his wealthiest donors from this iteration of the business plot 2024.

Because it is straight up, like, if he wins, like, I know we're tired of being like, this is the most important election. Like, we're really fucked. With what we've seen from the Supreme Court, like, he's never going to, like, leave office unless he's dead.

Like, that's, we're really, that's it. So, but yeah, so we've got, like, guys like Bill Ackman, Amid Malik, whose names I didn't know before this article, but I do feel like we should name names because these people are fucking monsters. They're all, like, his key benefactors and so they open this meeting it's after harris has joined and like kind of shot up in the polls and they're like obviously this has been going uh not great how do we pivot i'm assuming they said pivot because like business guys love to talk about pivoting and trump's opener was well we got to stop the steal which like that's not even this

election and then next he like bragged about how hard he nailed the national association of black journalists panel and they were like what the fuck are you talking about like and then like uh in sort of less vibey more terrifying news from this article he also described the assassination attempts as potentially the democrats trying to kill him um when it was a republican and also we've all forgotten about that it's crazy how quickly that just stopped being i remember like in the immediate aftermath we were like well this changes everything and then some people like or are we going to forget about this because the news cycle is so fucking crazy and just the turnover is not just the news cycle it's him not being good at messaging or

or branding or like using that as an opportunity for his campaign to pivot from uh i'm a business guy to pivot from all the negative thank you for saying pivot because i need that he he wasn't uh synchronicitying yeah yeah with the democrats after the assassination attempt so it's like okay trump's gonna trump so we're just gonna react to that which is a lot of what democrats have been doing so we're still waiting to see if he turns on jd vance but uh you know during his mar-a-Lago jazz sesh at the end of last week he said JD's doing a great job um but according to this article behind the scenes um when someone was like they're calling us weird he was like uh they're saying that about JD not me yeah fucking love he's just so quick to throw people under the bus um but yeah just generally it feels

like he's in the position of wishing things were different he wants it to be one way but it's the other way to quote marlo stamfield um get in line buddy we're all we're all like that i know but he's like really he's usually not this transparently like where where that the post where he like wrote the fan fiction about biden he's like biden is so mad he must be and he's gonna like come back and take the nomination back and then he's gonna challenge me to a debate but then i'm gonna beat him up in front of all everybody and it's gonna be tough and everyone's gonna love me like it just felt so weird and desperate along with the like claiming that her crowds are photoshopped and they're not and then like the only rally that he's held is in bozeman montana and he played my heart will go on at the montana rally this was and then

celine dion's people had to be like we did not give him approval for that stop immediately and also why that song why a titanic song as your campaign is famously floundering like he's like i'm gonna hold on to the door and i'm shoving jd under the water yeah um and then he's like I'm gonna hold on to the door and I'm shoving JD under the water yeah and then he also like cancelled the ABC debate and then reversed when people made fun of him for being scared he just feels scared and

desperate and like he's like just wants wants everybody to look at him and wants to change how this all is going and i'm sure you know right now the media is like like at a full 180 from the stories they were writing about a month ago and there are plenty of trump advisors behind the scenes who are like this is exactly what we predicted the day she replaced

biden uh it will last through the dnc and then the energy will be over um and maybe they're right like the kamala thing does feel like there's a lot of energy right now just based on the fact that people are so happy that biden dropped out you know and like people like the idea of her but i don't know what do you think it's gonna i think it's gonna last because i think like white women in this country have a lot of buying power i think that's part of the reason that like taylor swift is one of the largest artists of our time yeah and i feel like they have been really activated in a way where they can advocate for women and women of color like they feel like they can take that on their mantle you know what i mean yeah and so and you know brian is saying

oh she's a cop though but like she white women love that white women love a white women love a manager or a cop you know you're not seeing every 80s movie with bruce willis or mel gibson white women love a cop women white women love a cop and they love um someone who's gonna girl boss like she did when she shut down the gaza protesters in michigan right and was like i'm speaking now so they it's very it's very bought into by a certain demographic that i think will have the energy to carry it through the election yeah um well we will see she hasn't really been meeting with the media so that's like the there there's some tim wallace stuff about his military record that the republicans are anytime a democrat like has a military record the democrat uh the republicans are

gonna attack the shit out of it like john kerry was like certified war hero and they somehow turned that into a liability tim walls just served in the military and they're going hard after him. They got somebody who has served with him to like come out and be like, he's totally fabricated everything. Oh, I didn't even see that. Yeah. I mean, it's like on the Daily Beast, but I haven't seen it pick up a ton of traction, but I do think that is going to be happening until the day after the election.

Like they're going to be going hard off that just because they always always do um because they feel like there's just something about democrats at their core that like people don't trust on military stuff so they're just like and you can always find the military is so big you can always find somebody who's going to say somebody's like full of shit or that they were lying about their war record and the military so big you can always find somebody who's gonna say somebody's like full of shit or that they were lying about their war record and the military secretive enough that you can't like point to documents to like back up shit so i think they're also gonna do that about anything right like i think they're gonna be like football's gay now you know because he was a coach right i think they're just gonna be like we hate sports we hate yeah they're just going to be like, we hate sports. We hate. Yeah. They're just going to be willing to give up whatever for this cult.

references to it but it's not the main story but uh the thing that is kicking up is that she has not been very like she hasn't had any interviews she hasn't done a press conference um and i don't know it feels like she's going to have to start doing something um but then on the rally trail though right yeah they've been just doing appearances and um ads that have been i also feel like this is just the way things are now like trump does interviews with only people who are going to glaze him you know like they're just like he doesn't do like hard interviews except for um you know occasionally like that the panel um but she's like i i feel like there's also you know people are terrified of a second trump administration who are supporting her and probably are just like or don't do interviews like you know we don't want you to fuck up so like don't so just like stay in your lane and like let's keep building up the good vibes and um so she i think she's like yeah we'll probably put together an interview at some point but

by the end of the month but yeah she probably wants to have more control over it yeah totally and so like we are in a new era like there's an ap article about it um where they're like you know the like biden didn't do many press availabilities obama like i remember during obama's administration they like the media was like it's crazy how little like access we get here and that's because we live in a new era like social media like they the politicians stopped really needing the mainstream media like they used to have to like trade access for access for favorable coverage and it was like a whole like game and now they're like nobody gives a fuck what you

think like you're not you're not Walter Cronkite anymore. He doesn't need to channel that through a 60 minutes interview. Yeah so they don't have to like do favors of granting the interview in exchange for like positive coverage anymore because no media

mainstream media figures as powerful as they used to be um but all that said i don't think i don't think kamala can like coast through november without any like media availabilities so but i think she'll she'll be fine she always seems like she's doing but she she seems like she's doing she she seems like she's like really stepped up like since biden fucked that debate so badly like she all of her appearances have been like she she's been really locked in she's been like giving remarkably straight answers which has in the past been a difficulty i think um she's i've i think been really good in like media availabilities uh she hasn't had many she hasn't had any since she took over but i i think like some switch has flipped and she's like ready for all this shit so i'm not that worried about it but uh we shall see i would love i would love some

answers on gaza yeah yeah it's all i would say assuming that's one of the reasons that she hasn't given an interview um all right paula v thank you so much for joining uh. Where can people find you, follow you, see you all that good stuff. At Paula vegan, all in P a L L a V I G U N a L A N. I co-produced a show at the comedy store called facial recognition comedy. Our next show is August 20th. Um, I won't be there,

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