The Daily Zeitgeist - Mystery Jet Packer, What’s A Red Mirage? 9.3.20

Episode Date: September 3, 2020

In episode 708, Jack and guest host Jamie Loftus are joined by American Hysteria podcast host Chelsey Weber-Smith to discuss the red mirage scenario in relation to the 2020 election, DHS withholding i...ntelligence about a Russian attack on Biden, the killing of Dijon Kizzee by the LA County Sheriff, the poisoning of a Putin opponent, a jetpack sighting at LAX, and more!FOOTNOTES: Exclusive: Dem group warns of apparent Trump Election Day landslide DHS withheld July intelligence bulletin calling out Russian attack on Biden’s mental health Fatal shooting of Black man by L.A. County sheriff’s deputies sparks protests and questions #DijonKizzee , a 29yo Black man, was fatally shot by @LASDHQ deputies. Cops stopped him while riding his bike for alleged “vehicle code violation.” They say he ran, dropped clothes and handgun. He didn't pick it up, but cops shot him in the back 20+ times then left him for hours. Poisoning of Putin opponent renews spotlight on deadly Russian chemical weapon Feds investigate pilot’s sighting of ‘a guy in a jet pack’ flying at 3,000 feet near LAX Jetpack Sighting at 3,000 Feet Over Los Angeles Prompts Investigation WATCH: Chronixx - Dela Move (Official Video) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:40 But the prizes disappeared, leading to one of the biggest controversies in 80s pop culture. I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Swordquest. We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. Listen to The Legend of Swordquest on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Renee Stubbs, and I'm obsessed with sports, especially tennis. Tune into my podcast each week to hear me and my friends in the community break down the latest matches, including the US Open. Plus hear from some of the biggest names in the sport about what the future holds.
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Starting point is 00:01:51 I am showing up for my younger self, and it is becoming a ripple effect energetically in my life, and that's why I feel so safe now. Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 149, episode 4 of Der Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially off the top, fuck the Koch brothers, fuck Fox News, fuck Rush Limbaugh,
Starting point is 00:02:26 fuck Buck Sexton, fuck Ben Shapiro, and fuck Tucker Carlson because I'm brave, Jamie. I'm brave. It's Thursday. I know. Can he say that
Starting point is 00:02:37 is the question on everyone's mind. Is that even allowed? I just did. Okay. So it's Thursday, September 3rd,rd 2020 my name's jack o'brien aka hey there miles of gray what's it like not being sweaty i've changed shirts five times already somehow still i smell like a yeti yes i do my clothes more wet than Mountain Dew I swear it's true hey there miles of gray don't you worry about my short shorts muscled thighs for all to enjoy with pale skin and sweat that glistens
Starting point is 00:03:15 shield your eyes looking directly is unwise at my blinding thighs. That is courtesy of official dickhead. And I am thrilled to be joined by my special guest, co-host, Jamie Loftus! I'd like to make myself believe that COVID will end in 2020. But a second wave is coming
Starting point is 00:03:45 and we never left the first we're never gonna end quarantine but I'm Jamie that's a really depressing one from Will at Ultra Lantern I just really wanted to go into the nasal register as early
Starting point is 00:04:03 in the episode as possible. So thank you. Get that vocal warm up in. You sound great. Thank you. Thank you. How are you doing? It's been a while since I've been on a podcast with you.
Starting point is 00:04:19 What's the latest in your world? Yeah. So we were in Wisconsin for several weeks seeing my boyfriend's family. Well, like self-quarantining several weeks seeing my boyfriend's family. Well, like self-quarantining, then seeing my boyfriend's family, then now we have to self-quarantine again. But we were in Wisconsin when the shooting of Jacob Blake happened in Kenosha. And then the wave of protests that sprung up because of that and then the murder of the protesters. So we were fairly far a few hours away when when all that happened but um we went to the town over shortly after because that is where my boyfriend's mom lives and i don't know it was it was a i mean it's a horrifying thing
Starting point is 00:04:59 for that community to process and it's a swing state so they're you know it's it's having a conversation with my boyfriend's mom um who is liberal but needs to have difficult conversations had and then there's the difference of several streets over there's a q anon house so um i don't know. I felt like I had a lot of my having grown up in blue state privilege examined of, I mean, there's certainly horrific things happening everywhere, but the way that this community processed it is different because the politics are so polarized. And so that was a complete mindfuck. And then on the way home, we learned about the murder of Dijon Kizzy,
Starting point is 00:05:47 um, in South LA, who was just 29. I know we're going to talk about him later by the LA sheriff's department. So, uh, yeah, just a,
Starting point is 00:05:57 a wild, uh, horrible time and, and fuck Trump for showing up in Kenosha. So you weren't there just to see him? No, no, I was like, Oh, wait, wait maybe we should hang around kind of see what happens gotta hang it was weird we weren't in we weren't like next to kenosha um when uh the original uh when when the shootings happened but we were there a couple days later yeah unfortunately when the shootings happened it could mean
Starting point is 00:06:25 many different things uh in kenosha yeah shout out to everyone who's like holding it down in swing states uh because it just i mean it may yeah it made me feel extremely naive because it's like yeah you like liberal state privilege is a whole thing. Like you really have to stand your ground in a swing state. Yeah. Yeah. And even in non-swing states like Portland. Shout out to Robert Evans. Well, we are thrilled to be joined by the eloquent, the brilliant, the talented Chelsea Weber-Smith.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Well, I am thrilled. I am super thrilled. And I don't have like a satirical song to start with, but could I pop in with a quick fuck Ronald Reagan? Yes. All right. I like to come out of the gate hot. So yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Controversy, right? Yeah. I mean, a lot of people are going to disagree that listen to this show. Just kidding. Yeah, right. I know. Revolutionary. Yeah, we were just talking about how we need to get Ronald Reagan on the $5 bill. Oh, yeah, baby.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Yeah. Oh, my God. Fuck Ronald Reagan. Chelsea, how are you doing?, where are you joining us from? I am in Seattle. So definitely a liberal Mecca, but also like you said, a big battleground for, for black lives matter and everything that's been going on. And yeah, so that's where I'm at. Yeah. Portland too.
Starting point is 00:08:01 A lot of friends there, man. It is. It's nuts. Portland, too. A lot of friends there, man. It is. It's nuts. And you are a poet, a musician, a podcaster, a student of American hysteria. That's right. Yeah. Which, it's real, man. God bless you. I had no idea how relevant the show was going to become.
Starting point is 00:08:27 We started it a little over two years ago, and we talk moral panics, conspiracy theories, fantastical American thinking, and it's basically like long-form essays that we do each episode. But they're funny. They're terrifying. They're sad. Lots of oddities of history. But we try to break down
Starting point is 00:08:45 these fantasies uh through like a sociological lens like why does this happen not is this true but what's the moment in history what's the moment in american psychology that sort of facilitates these things spreading and and how they've always been kind of ingrained in us and come back in all these new ways and the show is called called American Hysteria. That's right. Appropriately enough. Right. All right, Chelsea, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we are going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:09:16 We're going to talk about the Red Mirage scenario, which is a scenario being put out there by some data firm called Fishhawk or some shit. But they are funded by Michael Bloomberg. And they think what is going to happen is it's going to look like Trump won in a landslide on election night. And then as the mail-in votes are tallied, if they're tallied, it would switch to a Biden victory. But we'll talk about that. We'll talk about the Department of Homeland Security nixing a Russian interference warning that was supposed to be sent out. We'll talk about L.A. County sheriffs murdering a man, shooting him over 20 times, according to eyewitnesses, him over 20 times, according to eyewitnesses, for committing a bike violation and running away from them and allegedly punching one of the officers in the face.
Starting point is 00:10:11 We don't know if that's true. Such bullshit. Yeah. We really... Eyewitnesses don't seem to corroborate that. We are going to talk about a prominent opponent of Vladimir Putin being poisoned. about a prominent opponent of Vladimir Putin being poisoned. We are going to talk about a guy in a jetpack casually flying around near LAX.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Or a person in a jetpack, I don't know. We don't know who it was. All of that, plenty more. But first, Chelsea, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Well, I a few days ago searched Cotton Mather Dinosaur Bones American Nationalism. So go on. Great. Beautiful. Right. It's a really interesting story. We're working on an episode about fake news. And so we go we always go all the way back to the Puritans and sort of like what started these these stories. And Cotton Mather found dinosaur or no, not Cotton Mather. A man was just walking down the street and a mammoth tooth rolled down the hill, hit him in the foot. He traded it to a politician for a cup of rum and then cotton
Starting point is 00:11:25 mather who's who i call witch trial bitch cotton mather we know him the puritan minister who facilitated the witch trials he took this on and decided that to reinforce his like scientific biblical shit that he did he said that they were giant bones and then just mocked England, like mercilessly saying we have biblical giants and you don't. And then it turned out that and then enslaved people were like, no, dude, that's an elephant. Like that looks like an African elephant, you know. So and they were like, that's insane. It's giant bones. So that's that's of stuff you can expect from American hysteria. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Now, so the thing that actually happened was a mammoth tooth rolled down a hill? That's right. That's right. As the story goes, hit a dude in the foot and he was like, this seems like something important, but I just want some rum. Some rum. Yeah. This seems like a good way to get some rum.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Yeah. Yeah. Reasonable. Reasonable. Yeah. Absolutely reasonable. The fate's reached out. And then they, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:35 And then they used it to like reinforce American nationalism by saying, you know, we're so exceptional that we have biblical giants buried under our soil in england has nothing so it was a great great little oddities like that i just i love yeah and then i got a whole book about it because if there's some weird thing that happens some academics spent their entire life figuring out how to uh how to encapsulate it for people that can read academic texts which is five people on earth so yeah yeah yeah it's a lot of i've noticed philosophy was my major and it's seems like it's a prerequisite yeah that's right uh i don't know why i know that about you yeah uh but it seems like it's a prerequisite for it to almost seem like it's written in a different language, uh, a lot of the time to, for, uh, somebody to write philosophy rather than like make it approachable.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Right. Uh, they, they make it as, uh, inscrutable as possible. were just like a nightmare. And I consider myself like somewhat able to discuss philosophy, but it was like so deeply inaccessible that that's kind of what our show is, is I'll read all these like deeply boring texts and try to make it so that just anyone could interact with the content. Right. And I don't know. I don't know why academia is so out of reach.
Starting point is 00:14:03 It seems really detrimental to the cause that it wants to sort of touch, right? It feels like some gatekeeping going on maybe, but I don't know. I wish I had taken a philosophy course at any point. I mean, it sounds like a fucking nightmare, but the classes I took were so profoundly pointless that I'm like, oh, maybe philosophy.
Starting point is 00:14:25 I mean, why not, really? I took a whole class on the television show Lost. So kind of why not? I mean, that's basically a philosophy course because that show is so deep. Because it actually really makes you think. But what if they were in purgatory? I did not watch that show or that that class you just you took the whole class
Starting point is 00:14:48 and got a b that is college that is yeah that's college baby yeah that's sort of what i was like with philosophy i started like actually being interested in it like the day i graduated i was like oh i'm gonna start reading some of this stuff as opposed to just doing it as a means to an end I took philosophy and studied English because the reading was quicker it was like three page reading assignments as opposed to novel length reading assignments so it was pure laziness yeah Chelsea what is something you think is overrated oh this one's fun so our next season three premiere is on true crime and how true crimes informed our society, which, you know, is going to be really fun. But something I really am annoyed by is the idea that serial killers possess some sort of genius or intelligence.
Starting point is 00:15:41 And if you don't mind, I would love to share a Zodiac quote that sort of proves my point. So, yes, thank you. I appreciate that. So one of like the big Zodiac letters that came to police and the media was actually not about like a cipher or anything like that. It came on a card that said, sorry, your ass is a dragon. And it had two prospectors riding a dragon with a donkey. I don't know. It's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:16:10 And then he wrote, quote, ready? If you don't want me to have this blast, meaning he was going to blow up a school bus, you must do two things. Tell everybody about the bus bomb with all the details. I would like to see some nice Zodiac buttons wandering around town. Everyone else has buttons like black power. Well, it would cheer me up considerably if I saw a lot of people wearing my button. Thank you. And then after he didn't see any buttons, he said, this is the Zodiac speaking.
Starting point is 00:16:42 I have become very upset with the people of San Fran Bay Area. They have not complied with my wishes for them to wear some nice Zodiac buttons. He was doing merch shit. You're a fucking loser. You're just such a loser. This sounds like a podcast. Right. I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:17:03 They're like, wait a second, second fam why aren't you could you please wear some nice buttons fam i sent you a free zeitgeist simpsons t-shirt why aren't you wearing it yeah it's it's just like embarrassing when you read serial killer like actual quotes you know because zodiac's like this mastermind and he eluded police. But really, he was just like a serious douchebag down in his heart, which, of course, we know. But like, it's just the genius thing. And there's like Ted Bundy, who was just like ridiculous in court defending himself and ranting and raving and just being, you know, an idiot. But then he gets this like charming. I don't know. The way we reduce serial killers i think is is a frustration to me and i think i and it's like i genuinely harmful you i mean to like glorify it
Starting point is 00:17:52 and also just because it's you would think you know maybe perhaps that people would be less fascinated by them if they realized you know kind of how they're losers they're truly profoundly losers true losers it's not cool to be a serial killer and you know also the whole serial killer panic which of course is like such a panic because it's so rare to be killed by a serial killer but it also really reinforced law and order war war on crime, rhetoric. And a lot like the man, like the mother of Sharon Tate was a huge, huge influence in the victims rights movement, which on its surface is awesome. And underneath also supports like very Republican policies. So it's just such a complicated genre that we don't really truly dissect.
Starting point is 00:18:42 And I'm not like anti-true crime or anything like that. I mean, I was definitely reading Manson stuff at about 12 years old, you know? So, but it's interesting. It's super interesting stuff I didn't know at all. Yeah, I totally feel conflicted about my interest in that stuff. I have this loose theory that the police basically talked Jeffrey Dahmer into claiming he was
Starting point is 00:19:08 a cannibal because he was arrested as Silence of the Lambs was becoming very popular. It was almost like the culture manifested because he was just keeping victims' body parts around, which is very gross. But also, he didn't know what to do with the bodies of all these people he was killing. And so it was more of a disposal thing than anything. But then he realized how much attention it got him. And it's just so interesting to me that silence of the lambs and happened and it was a national global phenomenon and then he was arrested and suddenly there's this famous serial killer who's also a cannibal wow that's that's a
Starting point is 00:20:02 theory that i can get down with i mean yeah, you know, like John Wayne Gacy, right? All the media showed of him was him in his clown outfit. And we talk a lot about like the phantom clown panic that happened in 2016 and also happened in the 80s of, you know, all these kids seeing clowns and them being horrifying, you know, stranger danger murderers. And it kind of single handedly changed the way that we think about clowns. You know, I know, stranger danger murderers. And it kind of single handedly changed the way that we think about clowns. You know, I mean, serial killers have such an enormous. And then there's like Ted Bundy that all these fundamentalist Christians came to like at the end of his life right before he was going to be executed. And they basically had a conversation blaming pornography
Starting point is 00:20:38 for everything that Ted did. So serial killers are used like so much more than we really consciously notice for like nefarious means I think I mean I think my where my the first time I felt my relationship with true crime because originally I was just kind of like in I'm like yeah this is like whatever fun and there's all the examinations of why is it appealing and all that stuff but um I think it was I was having a conversation with someone about i don't know one of the bajillion true crime docuseries there are and they were like talking about it in spoilers terms and they're like i've only watched up to episode two don't spoil i was like but someone was murdered like right but that but because that's how the stories are like treated and formatted you're like, oh, yeah, it's just being treated like it's fiction, basically.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Somebody's making a bunch of money. Somebody's making money. Just think about those development meetings where they're getting giddy about the twists and turns of a real-life serial killing. Yeah, like you're using all the same manipulations that you would in a fictional text. And yet I watched so much of it right oh yeah i'm like i'm like have i stopped watching no no i just feel worse about it but yeah right yeah sometimes that's the least we can do
Starting point is 00:21:58 absolutely yeah chelsea what is something you think is underrated ooh I'm gonna say horror movies um because I think horror movies are like I mean you've already kind of talked about it but they say so much about cultural anxiety and like where we're at in the moment that they're coming out and like the different genres like the satanism genre coming
Starting point is 00:22:20 out with like the exorcist was like right at the rise of fundamentalism is like a force in politics. Right. And then kind of was the kickoff to some of the satanic panic where people were convinced that there were satanic cults all over, you know, harming children in all of these sensational ways. And then there's like hillbilly horror. I'm really very interested in the shows, interested in sort of like the maligning of white trash. And, you know, the poor white person is like this kind of psychic dumping ground for
Starting point is 00:22:51 racism and people to blame. Right. And so there's like the hillbilly horror genre with Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Deliverance and all of those different ones. And I think that it says a lot about our relationship to the poor and how middle class people, like, right, like deliverance, you have these basically hipsters coming in and canoeing down the river for adventure. Right. And then it's like, oh, it's the poor white people that are like hiding in the hills, which is a compelling and terrifying thing.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Don't get me wrong. But then, you know, like I think Pennywise, the original Pennywise in the book and Tim Curry in it really encapsulated the dangerous stranger coming after children with stranger danger and really the satanic panic, our panic that our children are being constantly taken. And then even Frankenstein, this is like, we did a whole episode called Monsters about basically how the language of the monstrous has been used against people of color, but especially black people and how Mary Shelley's book came out. King Kong, like there's, yeah. Which one? King Kong. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Yeah. Hell yeah's that's like so overt right um but then like mary shelley's book about frankenstein was reprinted the same year that um the slave rebellion led by nat turner which is one of the most famous of all time happened and all of the language of frankenstein was used to talk about him like he's broken from his chains. They use the actual language of Frankenstein. And then when the movie came out in the 30s, there was all this racial anxiety from the 20s with jazz clubs and white women being influenced by black men and the whole black men steal white women trope that's been around since the very beginning and the movie had like these two interesting parts where it was like again like the the dangerous black man coming after women white women and children because you've got that scene where he
Starting point is 00:24:58 doesn't understand and throws the child in the water and And then there's also, though, this other line kind of like of liberal do-goodery, right? Where Frankenstein meets this blind man who could be colorblind, right? And he teaches this hopeless, helpless monster the morals of good society. And so it's like this really interesting, I don't know, I just think we write horror movies off a lot as trash, but now we have like Get Out and we have Parasite and we have these incredible horror movies that that are addressing social issues. And now our villains are, you know, elite cults or and even horror and trauma with like Hereditary and the Babadook. And, you know, just it really tells something about where we're at.
Starting point is 00:25:45 And they're like our urban legends, our fairy tales. You know, they're so vital to understanding culture, but we just like to think that they're trash and, you know. But really, yeah, go ahead. It's pretty fascinating too, because even with, I mean, even when a horror movie gets it wrong in terms of the cultural anxiety they're expressing, which they often do it's still
Starting point is 00:26:06 like you're saying it does kind of contextualize at very least the filmmaker's perspective but often whatever a prominent line of thinking during that time where i don't know on the bechdel cast we've been talking about this a lot lately because we're recording our halloween month episodes of how often like you said hereditary and I think Ari Aster is a huge perpetrator of this issue of like uh he just cannot write any anything in relation to mental illness intelligently or well um he just fumbles it every single time and the opening scene of Midsommar is like the most horrific misinterpretation of bipolar disorder maybe in all the film ever uh but it does it is very revealing about who he is and how he
Starting point is 00:26:52 views people I don't know like and it's also a very common uh stereotype that he's perpetuating there and there's a million examples of it that's one that like in the past couple of years has just like stuck with me. But it is like revealing of like, well, in 2019, this was still a pretty popular flawed way of thinking. And the way that like so often, like monsters are differently abled and just there's so many,
Starting point is 00:27:19 I mean, it's fascinating and fucked up. And yeah, horror, it's like they really, that genre really like lays it out for you for better and for worse it's like they they really that genre really like lays it out for you for better and for worse man i love what you said about him because he gets so like people love those movies and i just cannot i cannot and i read a quote from him because i did i used to blog about horror stuff and i read an interview from him that basically says he just tries to do the most transgressive fucked up thing it's not a direct quote but you know that that's his goal is to make the most fucked up thing he can and I think that that is such a weird do some privilege yeah
Starting point is 00:27:54 thing to do yeah you know like I don't know when you're writing from somebody else's perspective you can get in trouble real fast that you don't understand, you know? So I appreciate that. Chelsea, you said something about the clown craze or the clown panic of a few years ago. So I had seen a bunch of YouTube videos of clowns doing or like clown sightings and stuff. Was that all made up? Because it kept me awake yeah dude i mean like so i don't know did you watch the wrinkles the the clown documentary on
Starting point is 00:28:31 hulu no i just watched it i'm actually i don't know dude you know the the podcast you're wrong about i don't know if you it's a great podcast but we're doing a crossover i'm going on their show to do a clown episode which which is like so much fun. It's one of my favorite topics to talk about. But there was a guy, if you watch this documentary, that he made a sticker that said call wrinkles and then a phone number. And he created this whole lore that parents were calling in to discipline their children with him. So I think and it was all bullshit. Like it was just sort of like an avant garde,
Starting point is 00:29:05 you know, whatever you want to call it, art thing. But then, you know, it's it's a hysteria in that, like, if you think of satanic panic, like children, like most of these sightings and it happened in the 80s to very similar. But of course, it moved much slower because the Internet didn't exist. But it was all over the country, which is more interesting to me because it's so hard to spread those, you know, those ideas and those urban legends. But yeah, he he did that. And then I think that, oh, what I was saying is, is, you know, they all come from about seven year old kids. And when you're a seven year old, you know, you can make up anything like in the satanic panic, it was like their teachers were flying around the room and, you know, they were being flown to Mexico and put in kiddie pools full of sharks. And everybody took this really, really seriously because, you know, it was a time when assaults and sexual abuse of children was finally kind of coming to the forefront.
Starting point is 00:30:01 But then it went too far and everybody believed everything that a seven-year-old said. And as we know, I can remember being a kid and there was this whole controversy where these two girls were chased by a man with a scar on his face. And, you know, all these letters went home saying that this was true. It was on the local news. It turned out that they just were going to be late getting home and They made up a story and it just got like madly out of control. I mean, can you imagine the stress of that? And then, you know, and then I just remember being like, oh, yeah, I saw him. Oh, absolutely. He was doing this and this. And, you know, I saw him in the woods. And that's just what happens is kids like one up each other and then the parents find out or they tell the parents and then the parents take it seriously like men were shooting their guns
Starting point is 00:30:48 just into the woods just straight up into the woods because they thought they heard a weird sound and their kids had said that a clown lived in a shack in the woods so there's firing guns what is this a metaphor for it sounds like a metaphor for something oh I don't know it sounds like QAnon
Starting point is 00:31:04 shit to me that you know that's really interesting uh the point about it was a time when you know it was being acknowledged that children uh were being abused and you know after the 70s where it was just such a creepy decade uh in terms of, you know, like pedophilia was like a mainstream thing. And, but like, it just reminds me of the two prongs of the QAnon thing where, yes, there's a massive problem with human trafficking
Starting point is 00:31:37 and sexual abuse of minors that is being uncovered with the Epstein thing. And it is in the upper echelons of society, but it's not a wayfarer. But could there be anything more counterproductive into addressing that than QAnon? Right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Well, and then you can just, like what better villain is there, right? That QAnon, you can't create a better villain than a satanic pedophile like there is no thing that society could more loathe and collectively loathe together so it's such it's such a evocative thing to build a movement around because it's so hard to say oh well that's not happening and so it's just this very oh it's just a terrible thing and And the upper echelons, of course, are just as guilty of crimes against children as any other sect of society.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Like we act like this is, you know, like 90% of childhood sexual abuse is happening by people that they know, that the child knows. And so it's this other sensational thing that's like, here's where abuse is happening so we don't have to deal with where most abuse is happening. And so it't have to deal with where most abuse is happening.
Starting point is 00:32:46 So it's yeah, it's bonked. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about your myth. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman.
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Starting point is 00:36:32 I had sort of had my first sexual experience. If you're in your señora era or know someone who is, then this is the show for you. We're your hosts, Diosa and Mala, and you might recognize us from our flagship podcast, Locatora Radio. And we're back. And Chelsea, we like to ask our guest what is a myth what's something people think is true you know to be false or vice versa well you know and i don't know if you guys have talked about this i think you might have but just memory and what we think of as memory is so interesting to me because it couldn't be a more like fallible thing. And I think we think of our memories as set in stone, like they're filed away in a cabinet and you recall them at any moment as if they are perfect and unchanging.
Starting point is 00:37:38 But really, you can implant false memories. We know about that from the satanic panic and, and Christian psychotherapists that were really leading people into having these memories that turned out to be completely false. But I don't know about you guys, but I have memories that I know didn't happen. And they are so like clear and vivid. I have this memory of being shot at by my crazy neighbor, which is absolutely untrue. But I remember it down to like the bullets hitting the tree. And all it was, was my friends saying that it happened and me being like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally, totally. But now I have this like visceral memory and it's a problem in like eyewitness testimony. It's you can make things up with any suggestion. If someone said,
Starting point is 00:38:21 oh, I think he was wearing a blue shirt. You're like, yeah, I think he was. And it's, it's just such a dangerous thing to trust our memories the way we do. And then we get like the Mandela effect, you know, where it's like, you know, about the Mandela effect. I, yeah, we have talked about, yeah, I'm sure, you know, where an entire group of people wants to like rewrite history to prove that our memories are right. Or they'll create a whole story. Like, like, you know you know, that there's two universes, which maybe they are. But, you know, and so it's like, we're so scared of it.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Yeah. We're just so scared of our memories being, being incorrect that we'll, we'll kind of like write a whole mythos to. For the handful of listeners who don't listen to every single episode, what is the Mandela effect sure sure uh it's it's the idea that um at some point well the mandela effect to start is basically a group
Starting point is 00:39:13 false memory and uh it came from uh nelson mandela's apparent funeral procession that everybody remembered that didn't happen because it was a mixture of things like they remembered when he got out of prison and sort of like the celebration around that. But really, like it's more about stupid shit from the 90s, like Berenstain Bears is the most famous that most many people remember it being spelled Stein, S-T-E-I-N. Right. Yeah. And but then it's actually S-T-A-I-N. And it's jarring. I'll tell you, it jarred me. It shook me, right? Because it's like, I remember it being the other way. And then there's like, that, what, like, the peanut, Mr. Peanut wears a monocle. Oh, no, no. It's all just all these dumb things,
Starting point is 00:39:58 little things that people remember differently. There's a great list of them. They're all escaping me right now. And then the idea that there was a great list of them they're all escaping me right now but uh and then the idea that there was a separate universe and some of us came into the other parallel universe right where it's different yeah we switched over yeah so it's it's silly but it's also weird because we do have masses of people remembering the same thing that didn't happen and that's just super weird and interesting to me there's also been there's been some i i don't know how current it is but there was research at one time that indicated like the memories that you visit very frequently are like become less reliable over time the more you visit them of like every time you revisit a memory you're kind of opening it to
Starting point is 00:40:43 slight alteration depending on you know what was your perception of the event how are you feeling how do you feel about it now like memories are are right changeable in some to some degree which i thought was interesting there's a psychologist named elizabeth loftus that i think i asked you when we first first met if you were related to her or if you were secretly her. But she has done a bunch of work on implanting benign memories in people's minds like that they had been in hot air balloons and memories of seeing Bugs Bunny at Disney World
Starting point is 00:41:23 and just various things that are just by mere suggestion, the people are able to really like put themselves, like put a concrete memory in their brain that never happened. where people were basically asked about a memory immediately after the event happened and then further down the line. And the more they told the story, the further it got. And basically if they added a detail or something that was incorrect about, I think it was the Challenger explosion, that then became part of the memory
Starting point is 00:42:05 because every time you remember something you're essentially retelling the story to yourself and you're adding all these different details It's like a memory of a memory, sort of A memory of a memory of a copy of a copy We in the Loftus family have done a lot of work
Starting point is 00:42:22 on this The Loftuses Yeah, done a lot of work on this. The Loftuses. Yeah, yeah. Well, shit, this has been one of the most interesting getting to know you sections of the show. I hope so. Now we're going to have to rush through the news, but that is fine because everything we just talked about
Starting point is 00:42:42 relates to the news in many very interesting ways. Sorry, I talk a lot. No, it's the, you are. It was amazing. Like that was fascinating. You are at the very heart of the things that I'm so interested in that we do this show every day. Well, and that's why I loved Cracked. I mean, you guys were such an early influence on the show.
Starting point is 00:43:02 I tried to work for Cracked. Did you really? But it's fine that I didn't. Wow. No, I'm joking. I personally reviewed every application. I've just come on here to just shit talk you. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:15 There you go. It's a long con. But it's cool to be here, you know? Yeah. It is a long con. It's really cool to have you. At first, honestly, Jack, when you put the red mirage scenario in the doc, I'm like, is this a way of saying that Joe Kennedy lost?
Starting point is 00:43:32 So that is the first story. And also the red mirage scenario. Yeah, it's like the Pelican Brief, the red mirage scenario. But yeah, it's like the Pelican Brief, the Red Mirage scenario. But yeah, it's just a data firm that is kind of solidifying a description of what's going to happen on election night that we've sort of talked around. Trump's votes on election night, like the votes that will be tallied on election night, will reflect a shocking, surprising, huge Trump landslide victory. And then as more votes come in over the course of the next four days, I think they're estimating is going to take to tally up all the mail-in ballots. It will switch to a pretty definitive Biden victory.
Starting point is 00:44:27 And I am unfortunately certain that the mainstream media is incapable of dealing with that sort of volatility in any sort of measured or disciplined way. Nuance? Yeah. Don't know her. They will flip the fuck out
Starting point is 00:44:48 the moment it seems like trump has won and then trump will use that momentum to declare victory uh and then we'll have a toehold to delegitimize uh the the mail-in ballots so this is a very scary scenario that they said they based on you know a bunch of polling that was done you know together it wasn't just like their individual poll i think they based it on some 538 uh composite polling which is scary sure um so i don't know what to do about that other than just prepare and acknowledge that, you know, keep preparing the public for this possibility, because otherwise it's just going to, you know, we saw it in a very kind of minor way with the 2018 midterms where it was like, there's going to be a blue wave. Ha, psych, the blue wave never happened. And then over the course of a week, as more votes came in, they were like, ah, the blue wave did happen. We just needed to count the votes.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Yeah, it turns out. Just needed to chill. Right. Yeah. This is one of those many scenarios that are coming up that it is much like the Postal Service. You just feel so helpless in terms of like what is a direct actionable thing you can do about this. But I do think that there definitely is some value in just kind of bracing yourself and understanding what the possibilities are.
Starting point is 00:46:31 And yeah, I mean, passing the info along because this I don't know what we can do to really stop this from happening other than understand and not panic when it does. Right. But there will be an attempt by the Republican Party to use those early results to just sweep everything else under the rug. There's absolutely no doubt. I think that possibility is being underrated by the mainstream media's reception of this kind of study. They're just kind of being like, wow, that would be wild because there would be four days in which we're wrong, but then everything will come out in the wash and it's like, no, that's not going to happen. They will try to invalidate any results that are different from what they have on election night. Trump will be declaring victory for three straight days.
Starting point is 00:47:20 There will be a large victory celebration as the other results are trickling in, assuming this scenario happens. There's a DHS warning that Russia is basically saying the same thing the Trump administration is saying about Joe Biden's mental health and mental capacity. mental health and mental capacity. And when this warning was going to go out to law enforcement officials and more local officials, it was basically withheld by Chad Wolf, Acting Secretary of Homeland Security, Chad Wolf. God, these names.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Chad Wolf. These names. You got Wolf. He definitely answers his phone. You got the Wolf. God, these names. Chad Wolf. These names. You got Wolf. He definitely answers his phone. You got the Wolf. Wolf here. Wolf. It's better than this is Chad.
Starting point is 00:48:16 Right. Chad Wolf sounds like a character that would be on one of my mom's shows. You know? Aye, aye, aye. Okay. Chad Wolf. like would be on one of my mom's shows you know yeah oh yeah yeah okay chad wolf we've talked before about the la county sheriff's uh office being implicated in just a number of white supremacist gangs and you know yeah getting tattoos for killing us killing people, like just all sorts of shit.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Yeah. They were two L.A. County sheriff's officers, I don't even know the wording for that, shot a man who they had stopped for a bicycle violation. Which, first of all, what the fuck is a bicycle violation like this whole yeah top to bottom this is just absolute horseshit and makes me so angry there's no third who gets like it's just it couldn't be more mask off like targeting right according to uh eyewitnesses they continued to shoot him while he was on the ground, shot him in the back, kept shooting
Starting point is 00:49:26 they say over 20 times. The sheriff's officer's account is that he had dropped a gun and was going to pick it up, but even they aren't saying that he had the gun when they shot him 20 times. And they also left his
Starting point is 00:49:42 body on the street for hours. Hours and hours and hours. After handc also left his body on the street for like hours, hours and hours and hours after handcuffing his dead body. So this is also, we we've talked about how we're really seeing like the, the cases that are breaking through are only the ones that happen on a video that somebody is like taking direct footage of, of the thing happening. Um,
Starting point is 00:50:10 and otherwise it's just like, this is basically as close as we've seen to, uh, something breaking through without a direct video of it. But I, I feel like the videos we've seen, uh, tell us, uh, a lot about, you know, who's
Starting point is 00:50:29 telling the truth in these scenarios. So the name of the man who was murdered is Dijon Kizzy, and it just like, it couldn't be more, I don't know. I mean, like the LA County sheriffs are a gang. They operate exactly like a gang. And it just is sanctioned by the law. I knew a number of people who went down to protest before they had even removed the man they murdered body off the ground. And there's a lot that's already been written about it,
Starting point is 00:51:03 but basically there's an overlap between some of the LA County sheriffs involved in this murder and other murders of people, including an 18-year-old just a couple of months ago. And so it's not just the same department, it's literally the same people that are perpetrating this over and over and over
Starting point is 00:51:24 and then are just staring protesters in the face and you know just blocking anything they were um shining i mean it kind of reminds me of a lot of the tactics being used in portland they're shining lights into the crowd so that protesters cannot get video of what they're doing so you don't know what's happening at all it's unconscionable that this it just makes me so i don't know i mean a bike violation like fuck you it's it's yeah so like you said there's video like we only see what there's video of and we also when we talk about police violence i think people immediately think of murder which is a very important thing. But there is so much violence that doesn't result in murder. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:09 There's so much violence that the police officers commit against black men and women that is never going to, you know, because you can complain. But a cop we've seen him have like 20 complaints against him before he kills somebody. against him before he kills somebody. And then, you know, and even even mass incarceration and all of these things that are included in policing that we also aren't fully talking about in the mainstream. I know that people on the left are really interested in dissecting this police state and all the things that that go with our justice system. But like you said, it's like we're only getting like the tip of this iceberg, this horrifying iceberg, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And this happens in most scenarios that are similar to this, and unfortunately there's so many of them, but what is the outcome of this situation? This murder is being investigated of them but what is the outcome of this situation this murder is being investigated by
Starting point is 00:53:07 the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department so you're just having murderers investigate their own murder and so what the fuck do you think they're going to turn up we've seen it happen so many times at this point but yeah this was just
Starting point is 00:53:23 a fucking he was on a fucking bike like it's just i don't know yeah um let's take another quick break and we'll be right back this summer the nation watched as the republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman.
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Starting point is 00:55:36 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre. It doesn't get more Mexican than this. Lucha libre is known globally because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment. Lucha libre is a type of storytelling.
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Starting point is 00:56:18 Join me as we learn more about the history behind this spectacular sport from its inception in the United States to how it became a global symbol of Mexican culture. We'll learn more about some of the most iconic heroes in the ring. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask as part of My Cultura Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. It was December 2019 when the story blew up. In Green Bay, Wisconsin,
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Starting point is 00:57:40 or wherever you get your podcasts. or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And there's a prominent opponent to Vladimir Putin, Alexei Navalny, who has been poisoned. And one of the details that's getting kind of underlined in this story is that they used Novichok, which is a deadly nerve agent that is sort of Putin's calling card, I guess.
Starting point is 00:58:17 I feel like it's fairly common knowledge that Putin has people murdered who are publicly in opposition to him. I found there's at least direct evidence that he's had 21 journalists murdered since he took power 20 years ago, and that's just subcategory journalists. So Alexei Navalny, as far as I know, was not even a journalist. He was a campaigner who made something called the Anti-Corruption Foundation who was publicly basically investigating the wealth of
Starting point is 00:58:51 Putin and his inner circle. This is information I'm getting from The Guardian. His cello-est. Where does the money follow the money? So yeah, Navalny was poisoned in his tea, I guess. And yeah, it was just kind of revealed
Starting point is 00:59:15 that it was this specific poison. And I have a quote from one of his associates, Leonid Volkov, who said, choosing Novichok to poison Navalny in 2020 from one of his associates, Leonid Volkov, who said, choosing Novichok to poison Navalny in 2020 is basically the same thing as leaving an autograph at the scene of the crime. So this has just been such a popular use of getting rid of the opposition.
Starting point is 00:59:39 It's, yeah, it's, I mean, as we were talking about serial killers earlier, and this is kind of, it's like, oh, this is his signature move that I think is used as a warning to other people who are doing similar work. So, yeah, just scary Putin news. R.I.P. Navalny.
Starting point is 00:59:59 I mean, yeah, it's bad. And this is a name that it's like you know who in advance is going to be poisoned or killed by Putin. I knew this name ahead of time as the person who is probably going to be poisoned by Vladimir Putin soon. Like that's a it's just so shameless. Did he die or I think he's being treated or? Yeah, I don't think he is confirmed dead as of this recording. So he was, yeah, he was hospitalized in Siberia
Starting point is 01:00:41 after drinking some tea. Then he was flown to Germany. He is not, yeah. But there's no quotes from him, so we don't really know what state he's in. Right. Yeah, and Putin has complained that there aren't any cool buttons
Starting point is 01:00:58 with his face on it. Yeah. Well, I'm sure he forces everyone to wear them. Right, yeah, there probably are actually uh just fewer than he would prefer yeah a hundred percent button adoption uh is what he's striving for let's talk about jetpacks so what over the story the weekend two pilots who were uh coming in for a landing at LAX spotted a guy flying or a human flying 3,000 feet up in the sky.
Starting point is 01:01:31 To put that in perspective, that's over twice as high as the Empire State Building. It's higher than I think the tallest building in the world. They both saw this person and then radioed know radioed in you can listen to the radio report uh where it's just uh they're like there's a some somebody with a jet pack about 3 000 feet off uh up in the sky you know a couple hundred feet. A man calling himself Jimmy Neutron is... Is claiming responsibility?
Starting point is 01:02:10 Oh, oh, oh. I thought... I have never seen Jimmy Neutron, so I did not get that. I'm sorry. I apologize. But this is one of those things where it didn't make sense to me
Starting point is 01:02:24 until I really thought about how high that is and how you wouldn't like, you wouldn't be able to see that from the ground. You wouldn't be able to see a person 3000 feet up in the sky from the ground. It would just be like a tiny little speck in the sky that's one of the things that i keep wondering is like why are pilots the only ones who are seeing these ufos when they're flying around um and they're so high up and so comparatively small or can be so comparatively small that i guess you just would have to be you would have to be in a plane
Starting point is 01:03:06 and happen to be passing by somebody flying a jet pack in order to spot them i this is a good old-fashioned weird-ass story like what what could he breathe up there? Yeah, 3,000 feet, you can breathe. Science, okay. You can breathe. Wait, so he was just like, was he wearing a mask? Like, what?
Starting point is 01:03:34 He was wearing a clown mask. Yeah, he was a clown. A Nixon mask? No. Yeah, Nixon clown mask. Oh, my God. I don't, yeah, I don't even know what to say sure sure okay sure if that's what if that's what he says then it happened yeah yeah i mean so the ocean is 80 unexplored
Starting point is 01:03:57 and 0.3 billion cubic miles of ocean the air is 1 billion cubic miles so we basically have no concept of what is flying around through the air because it's just like so far away we wouldn't be able to see it unless you're you happen to be passing through that portion of the air i guess is what this story made me think about is like so it's just my skepticism about ufos has been like yeah but we would have seen them and it's this story made me think more about like not necessarily because you're so far away from them and you only have like a line of sight on a very small patch of the sky and only like something that's very close to you well Well, if they're that smart, they probably don't want everybody to see them.
Starting point is 01:04:47 You know, it's like the story of the Illuminati where they're hiding in plain sight and like putting all these secret things in Justin Bieber videos. And it's like, yes, they would want to be a secret. UFOs would probably want to be a secret. Yeah. Yeah, I'm stumped.
Starting point is 01:05:02 I'm stumped. In regards to the jetpacks there's so earlier this year a jetman uh a jetman dubai pilot jetman dubai uh which i think is a company flew six thousand feet up wait if his name was jetman of course he has to have a jet pack. No choice. Of the Dubai Jetmans. But flew nearly 6,000 feet up using a jet pack, but the flight lasted three minutes. So basically the problem with jet packs has been that you can't have enough fuel on you to stay up in the sky for very long.
Starting point is 01:05:44 fuel on you to stay up in the sky for very long. I think there was jet pack aviation, which is based in the San Fernando Valley. So I'm looking at, looking at them around this story, but, uh, they claim to have invented what, uh,
Starting point is 01:05:57 they call the world's only jet pack, which can reach up to 15,000 feet in altitude and can be operated for about 10 minutes. But I don't know, it's weird. I remember the story back in 2010 where somebody was like, yeah, we've done basically those same or similar statistics where they claimed they could fly around for 30 minutes and then people actually went and looked at them. It was an Australian company and they could only fly six feet in the air.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Oh, no. Oh, no. Was that like moon shoes? Right, exactly. Otherwise known as a trampoline. Yeah. Sorry, I'm interrupting with my excitement over moon shoes. But remember they were like But remember No they weren't
Starting point is 01:06:47 The thing is that the commercial made it seem like You were going to jump like 10 feet in the air But you jumped like less high Than you could You jumped less high than you normally would Moon shoes were ultimately a burden Right They weighed you down to earth
Starting point is 01:07:04 Yes A reminder of gravity It was a metaphor for something Ultimately a burden. Right. They weighed you down to Earth. Yes. A reminder of gravity. It was a metaphor for something. Yeah, I like that. That's nice. A Nickelodeon metaphor. Oh, Jack, you've got to watch Jimmy Neutron.
Starting point is 01:07:18 I know. I feel like your kids would really enjoy it. Okay. Is it PG or G? That is actually a distinction that matters that's a good question i feel like it's super g i think it is g uh yeah and it's all the parents go away so look out but then it turns out they need their parents spoilers good that's just what i like propaganda yeah big parent uh jetpack aviation has uh their founder uh quote in this new york times article the new york times by the way this wasn't like from the daily mail or whatever uh
Starting point is 01:07:54 they said honestly we don't know who's working on a machine that would be foolish enough or reckless enough to do that um so they are claiming it's not them um no one knows what to do with the jetpack that's a death wish man going up that high playing chicken with a 747 seems unlikely but I don't know
Starting point is 01:08:18 I'm no expert oh boy well Chelsea it has been such a pleasure having you on the daily zeitgeist where can people find you and follow you uh you guys can find american hysteria on any podcast platform uh and then uh we have instagram at american hysteria podcast and twitter at amer hysteria so uh that's that's where you can find me, ChelseaWeversmith.com. Mostly we do podcasting.
Starting point is 01:08:48 Music has fallen away because all I do is read about Cotton Mather and Ted Bundy all day, every day. So yeah, I'd love for you guys. Yeah, our show's different because it's scripted, but I hope that it's funny and terrifying and interesting. That's what we hope. So it's different than the show, but I think it's got the same funny and terrifying and interesting. That's what we hope.
Starting point is 01:09:05 So it's different than the show, but I think it's got the same kind of heart and core. Aw. Yeah. And is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Man, I know this is cheating because it happened a bit ago, but I was in the woods for a little bit on a camping trip and I came back and my partner was like reading the news while I drove. And, you know, someone had tweeted, former pool boy describes years long sexual relationship
Starting point is 01:09:35 with Jerry Falwell Jr. and wife. And I came out of the woods and like I was so overjoyed at this news, like it filled me with such just absolute pure bliss. Because of course, yuck. Not to this unorthodox type of relationship. That's great. Do what you want. But, you know, while maintaining this ridiculous facade.
Starting point is 01:10:01 And, you know, Jerry Falwell Sr. has always been on the top of our shit list um on our show yeah just filled me with joy experience joy that kind of reminds me the way you described that reminds me of jared leto be like being in his cult for two months and then coming out and being like covid whom like the best that was i mean terrifying that he has a cult but that news item was really funny God I want to do an undercover into that cult
Starting point is 01:10:31 what a dream now more than ever now more than ever Jamie where can people find you and what's a tweet you've been enjoying oh you can find me in all the usual places at Jamie Loftus help on Twitter at Jamie Christ Superstar on Instagram. I'm going to shout out one of my BFF Julia Clare's tweets at Oh Julia Tweets.
Starting point is 01:10:55 It's referencing the Joe Kennedy defeat in Massachusetts this week. So she says this is easily one of the funniest things I've ever read. And she's quote tweeting a Politico, some really powerful Politico spin going on. So it has a picture of sad Joe Kennedy. And then it says, in losing his Senate race, Joe Kennedy III has
Starting point is 01:11:18 freed his family from a political burden it has struggled to escape. Hey, congratulations Kennedy. Which is so funny. It's like, oh, right right that was that he was trying to escape it wasn't that a kennedy has never lost in massachusetts before this week and people can't deal with it it's actually he was trying to escape and then hayes davenport replied with a gif of the genies cups coming off oh it's just all that oh it's just funny um yeah
Starting point is 01:11:47 that's all I have to say ah poor Nancy Pelosi rough I know was she gonna clap and she was hoping that her friend Joe would come on the floor and they could clap together for press oh well a couple tweets I've been enjoying
Starting point is 01:12:04 people were tweeting this image of jamal murray and donovan mitchell like hugging after this amazing series where they combined to score the most points by a pair of players in a playoff series in nba history uh and they're hugging because jamal murray's team the nuggets just beat the jazz and and donovan mitchell's crying uh and joseph flynn tweeted mitchell sobbing i hate living in utah so much man which i think is funny if that's what he was crying about uh and then uh barmelo's anthony uh just tweeted i don't know, but this shit is mad funny. And it's,
Starting point is 01:12:46 uh, somebody put a out green photograph, like the shirtless, like doing the finger gun, uh, out green photograph over the W and Walgreens. Uh, so it just says out greens.
Starting point is 01:12:58 Uh, and that is one of the great pieces of public art. Uh, I've seen. So well done. God bless. Uh, is one of the great pieces of public art I've seen in a while. Well done. God bless. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find
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