The Daily Zeitgeist - Mystery Of The Flaming Cop Cars, White Supremacy On Every Channel 6.4.20

Episode Date: June 4, 2020

In episode 643, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Dulce Sloan to discuss the current state of the United States, and more. They are also joined by Pastor Edward "Eddie" Anderson to talk about how the public can help.FOOTNOTES: Poor Peoples Campaign Black Lives Matter Los Angeles THAT BLACKASS SHOW with Dulce Sloan Donation Resources WATCH: Bob Marley - Small Axe Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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that uh but i am we just have to get into the news there's a different energy uh with what's happening right now that i'm like i'm i'm constantly amazed at how uh again white supremacy has to sort of reform itself to be able to maintain its power. And you see that in the news coverage and you see that with the just unchained aggression coming from the police. It's a lot. So, yes, join us on this journey. It is a lot. Pick apart just how bad things are. And we are thrilled to have in our third seat

one of my favorite stand-up comedians, one of the funniest humans working currently. She is the hilarious, the talented Dulce Sloan! Hello, friend. I feel like you were flirting with me, and I accept it. Even though in these troubling times, I don't know if I should accept affection from a white man. But, you know, tomato, tomato.

You know, you got to work in the community. Hello, everyone. Yeah. How is everyone doing? Oh, you know. You know, it's bad. It's bad. It's bad.

I'm doing bad. I think this is the time that we're allowed to say when someone's like, hey, how's bad. It's bad. I'm doing bad. I think this is the time that we're allowed to say when someone's like, hey, how's it going? You're allowed to be like, bad, and not be, you know, one of the neurotic, considered neurotic. Yeah, this is the time where black people have got their very worried white friends

just being like, are you good? Are you good i don't are you are you good yeah it's miles i don't know what your people are people i'm black and japanese i'm black and japanese and you know i'm getting those texts and the what the funny thing is i scroll up the last fucking thing they text me they were asking me for something that's what it but that's what it's like that's the thing and that's the thing i want people to like that's the thing i'm like i i understand thank you like if that helps you feel better about your privilege to check on me and that feels like a way to

you know handle that fine but my god man black people have had plenty of time to to carve up and analyze what's been going on the would the murder of david mcatee that man who owns the barbecue shop in louisville particularly is heartbreaking my grandfather who you know his family moved from the south to chicago he came from chicago out to la looking for work because of the war effort a tax paying black man who served his country, entrepreneur who had to do everything on his own. He owned, he, my grandfather used to own a barbecue restaurant, Slossett and Overhill in LA.

And, and then, and the, and people knew in the neighborhood, he was good with people because he, he saw him making barbecue as a way to, to feed his community. It wasn't, it wasn't for profit. Those, those margins are razor thin.'s not to to go ball out he did it because that's a way that that's an expression of our love for each other too is through us providing for each other and cooking for each other and i know during the riots he in 92 he was worried about his place but things were okay thank god but i just think about this other man, a grandfather, a black man in the street who police seem to know his restaurant too, is just murdered.

I don't know what I don't know. It was like, because I was like, why are you shooting? Because the story I got was somebody was shooting at the police. They shot back and it was an innocent bystander situation.

So it wasn't it was an innocent bystander situation so it wasn't him like he wasn't because he wasn't protesting it was like yeah he wasn't protesting it was an innocent bystander situation and i'm always like stray bullets always seem to catch good people they never seem to catch the awful dude yeah they're like whoa hitler got hit by a straight bullet right but then but i guess if you are the awful dude the bullet's not straight like i don't understand right what happens like if you're shooting at the cops and you get shot you're're just like, alright, you earned that the right way. But if you're just... The stray bullet has

always been a weird kind of thing where it's just like, oh, you're never going to catch a dude who was a horrible person. It was kicking puppies and hurting kids and

all this other stuff like that like stray bullets go around him yeah like i don't know if the evil protects you like i don't know what the philosophy of the stray bullet is but i can be thankful that my white friends who have hit me up to ask if i'm all right it's not the are you all right well what can i do it's not those two because some people either get the it's kind of like a comic when you book something like when i booked like when i got daily show there was two types there's there's three types of people that hit you up. Oh, shit. There's the, oh, my God, congratulations, and that's the end of the sentence. And then there's, oh, congratulations, how did you book that? How did you book that?

And then there's just the people that are just like, oh, hey, well, how did you book this? Okay, cool. You just said congratulations, we're friends. Congratulations on how you booked this, we're friends, but you're an ass. If it's just how did you book this, I'm going to block you on social media. Right. And so it's the same thing. It's how are you?

Done. How are you? What can I do? Done. What can I do? First of all, quit asking us. Yeah. Right.

Because we've been peacefully protesting, but then it's because I'm very much over the. Well, if they would have done it this. Oh, no. Listen, there is plenty of footage. We've all seen eyes on the prize. We all went to high school. We all found out what happened. I'm really to the point where I'm just like, I'm a need white people to stop talking about Martin Luther King.

Yes. Because what you're doing talking about Martin Luther King. Yes. Because what you're doing is using Martin Luther King to silence us. So you're bringing on the, he wouldn't want the riots, he wouldn't want the riots. And then it's like, oh, this is what we're going to do? Fine. And then you send them the clip of Martin Luther King doing a speech saying that riots are the language of the unheard. So now you don't have a rebuttal. Because it was, well, Martin Luther King, it was well martin luther i was like no

no no let's not guess what we he would have thought let me show you an actual clip of what the man said because i don't know if you saw on twitter where people were white explaining to bernice king oh my god yeah about what her father would have done and she was like my father peacefully protested and y'all assassinated him. So you've already told us what happens when we peacefully protest. We did sit ins at lunch counters and we were attacked. We peacefully protested across the bridge. That was a massacre. We had a whole town set up in Tulsa, Oklahoma, because you wouldn't leave us alone toward you burn the city down.

May 31st to June 1st, that was 99 years ago. So all of the times where we've gone by your rules, fine. You don't want us to live near you? We'll make our own town. All these Negroes are successful? Burn it down. Okay, you want us to peacefully protest? We did all of this.

Let's attack them with dogs and fire hoses. So we are trying to follow the rule every it's you're given you're not you're giving us the guidelines of what we have to do for you acknowledge us as human beings and acknowledge our rights and it's still we didn't do that's the thing because i think right they're trying to say well these are the rules to getting what you want but see what we played by the rules and we're not getting what it's not even what we want it's what we're owed it's what we what we are what we what we deserve as human beings when the people who make that the people who make the rules will always be able to change the rules then fuck the game then we'll play a different one so my thing is now stop asking us you want to know what you can do for me as a black person to change things

call your dad call your dad call your uncle, call your auntie call all of those people that are the reason that you don't go home for Thanksgiving because all of those people are the ones saying all lives matter and more care about a target on fire than a man would than a police man's knee on his neck.

Stop asking us. We didn't start this problem. Because how can an abuser look at the victim and turn to the victim and say, tell me how to stop abusing you? How does that make sense? you how does that make sense black people have spent our whole lives we've been taught generation after generation after generation how to navigate through white folks to survive and this is the time for white people to net to teach white people how to navigate through us yeah we played by the rules and you keep changing them right so i'm going to then the rule maker need to talk to the rule maker because obviously you're not listening to us because you can watch all these videos and not care what did he do wrong he existed there was anything he couldn't do none right

so i'm not playing this game no more because the only reason buses got desegregated is because the montgomery bus system was about to go bankrupt they didn't change their minds about us they didn't make us people it was 18 months and it was running out of money some man needed to send his child to college it was either either he can't go to school or these negroes get to say whatever they want on this bus wasn't about us all these changes haven't been about us you messed their money up my mama told me as a kid you want to change stuff mess up d white man money and stuff will change it's not about it's not about acknowledging the humanity and that's that's not that's not that's not the point

you burnt hot target target don't stand to care why you care right right because i'm not playing this game no more yeah because white people don't want to believe that things could actually be that bad and so it's easier to just be like oh well it can't be that it can't be that black people this country have experienced white supremacy and oppression so bad that they would that this is what it's led to that can't be that's like this self-preservation shit again because if you have to really look white supremacy and i that's when you can begin to be like, Ooh, that maybe we can fix something about it. But when you don't talk about it, it's easy to just move on because you don't have to talk about the problem. And I think it's really, you know, we'll, we'll see what happens. We'll have a guest on later

to just kind of talk about sort of what's going on on the ground and, and ways to constructively move forward. But I, you know, like I said in the episode yesterday, for all the allies posting those black squares, keep that black square energy up three weeks from now, three months from now, three years from now. Yeah, keep the same energy. If I don't see that energy up, you're the worst kind of fucking person there is

because you are just posturing to try and comfort us. I'll feel better when i see action and i and again i like i get i get what you're trying to do but the the thing is in the street i still see people who i could look at as being my own grandfather get murdered nothing that's my grandfather owned a dry cleaner and fought for this country yeah and came back my grandfather fought in world war ii overseas and then came back and not been in had to have his business in a specific place had it was true i'm okay it's all it's okay to shoot at me and fight for this country and then i come back and it's just like well what why did i go

well why did i go because when the navy recruiter was trying to talk to my brother, me and my mama shut that all the way down. No, you're not going to fight for a country that'll kill you. That sounds wild. Jack, how you feeling? What you got to say, bud? I was just going to say that the GI Bill was a specific instrument of redlining and white supremacy.

The GI Bill after World War II, after Black people fought for the country, they used the policies coming back from the war to specifically institute white supremacy. But Jack, I don't mean to put you on the spot,

but how are you doing with this? I know you're not a shitty white dude because when i worked for you you said i don't want to hire a bunch of white guys here uh and and i've seen you like i know i know you to be a good empathetic human being but i'm curious because i don't i only know it from the side of the oppressed person and this whole weekend i'm thinking like fuck i'm japanese i'm black i have like multiple examples to look at how the country just fucking body slammed me. And I'm curious what it is on the other side to have to say, you know, what, what, what is your experience like? Because the only experience I'm seeing from, from other people who are not black is like them getting together, marching,

talking to each other or whatever. And I see the experience on that. And, but I'm curious to know what the emotions are or what that experience is like, because this, you know, this,

it seems like a lot of people are being a lot more introspective than normal. Yeah. I mean, it's a lot of introspection, a lot of rage, a lot of despair, trying to.

Rage about what? Despair about what? What are you mad about? What are you sad at? And I'm not trying to put you on the spot. I actually want to know. Right. I mean, you know, the white supremacy in the country is something that I've been aware

of for a long time and been pointing out for a long time, like to miles's point on yesterday's episode, the daily zeitgeist our show has been pointing out there's white supremacy, there's examples of it, but what, what are we going to do about it? And despair, I guess at looking at my own life and realizing that I haven't done enough. I haven't done enough

other than pointing it out, basically. So trying to talk to my family about how we change how we're living our lives to not support the status quo as it exists, and then rage just at the status quo on the fact that this keeps happening. Six years ago, the solution was, well, let's retrain the police. Let's defund the, or not defund the police. Let's give them more funding to retrain the police to get more resources and body cameras and

shit like that. And it just doesn't matter. I guess it's a feeling of hopelessness and just a feeling that how I've lived my life up to this point isn't there needs to be more a deeper change so you know I just want to point out you know you said you felt despair and I don't think that's a proper emotion in all honesty for white people to feel about this because you guys are at the you guys are at the drive you are at the wheel drive. You are at the wheel right now. You're at the wheel. We are not. We're asking, we're asking the driver to drive us somewhere safe. And y'all are at the wheel.

And they keep running off the road. And that's why I don't, and I don't mean like shame. You shouldn't feel despair. But I think any white person who feels despair, you should understand. Y'all have every reason to feel charged up right now because you can actually, there's a lot more you can do with your privilege and your place as the hegemonic class and race in this country to really do something. We are out here, we're on empty, but we still got the fucking pedal to the metal.

And I don't know how there is more gas going into the engine, but we're doing it. The thing is, and this is what I was even saying last week, the way this puzzle is finished is by everybody else feeling the same way we do. And black deaths shouldn't be obscure to white people. This is an exercise for anybody. Picture somebody in your family that died recently. I don't care what race you are. That shit hurt, didn't it? Tragic, unsudden, or an old age, whatever.

It's a tragedy to have someone die in your life, a family member. Now imagine if that family member was killed. How worse would that feel? Probably worse because that's a lot. You have a lot of time to wrap your head around illness and these other things, but to be tragically murdered, that's awful. That's a pain that not many people know. And I don't wish many people to know. Now, add on top of that, that the people you know who killed your family member. And you're out there saying, I have video evidence of this man killing my family member

and then on top of that you have a legal system that looks at that evidence and says i don't know it looked like he had hypertension and possible intoxicants and you tell me how that's a book and we're and suddenly we're going to experience death differently. Fuck no. That shit is absolutely degrading every time it happens. And it still happens. That's why we are the ones that feel despair. Because the facts are, we look at evidence of ourselves being killed all the time and not a fucking thing is happening about it. Meanwhile, white people have all the votes, have all the money, have all the fucking power. You could put all your, you know, do know do some fundraising whatever i don't care what it

is but y'all have the power that's not you don't see black companies saying you know we're gonna do our part to hire more white people that's not that because that's not the game y'all are running the game so you that's so don't feel despair feel empowered now because y'all got the fucking star in mario with that white privilege now fucking run through these blocks and shit i'll say this i can understand how you feel upset because you feel like i'm one person trying to do some things right i'm trying to help i'm trying to help. I'm trying to do that. I'm trying to hire more black people. I'm trying to talk to my family. I'm trying to do all of these things. And you as one person feel like that you're doing the best that you can to try to help.

But you know, you're just one person trying to do something, right? But you're not yelling. You're not screaming. You're not marching and nobody's dying around you. But you're not yelling, you're not screaming, you're not marching, and nobody's dying around you. So that feeling that you have, it's because I'm trying to fix it and nothing's changing, right? That little feeling. I'm trying to fix it and nothing's changing. I'm doing whatever, the little things that I can to try to fix it, right? And realizing that I'm not doing enough.

Now take that feeling and apply it to an entire population of people who have been screaming for years, stop killing us. We're not asked. It's for that feeling. Because one thing that white people have been able to do is they've been able to see that this is a problem, but they've not been able to feel anything that we've felt. So that feeling that you have of, I'm only this one thing that I'm trying to do. I'm trying to fix it and I don't know what to do. And I keep trying and I keep trying and I'm banging my head against the wall. Now take that same feeling and then apply it to the entire time we've been here.

At least since emancipation so from 1865 till today that feeling and disperse it over every single black person who's ever lived in the united states that that small feeling that you had now add on institutional poverty institutional racism police brutality, a broken fucking justice system, and just people who are taught to be afraid of us. TV teaches them. And yet everything we create is every bit of a music that plays in America. We made it. music that plays in America, we made it. We made it. Rock and roll, all of the little Richard, all of them, all we created everything that is quintessential America, right? When people think about American food, they think about Southern food that was made by my people.

And yet we're told constantly, we don't contribute. So you're telling me I'm not needed here So you're telling me I'm not needed here. You're telling me I'm not wanted here, but you steal from us constantly. So you kill us to prove what you're saying, but then you also take everything we've ever created from us. And then we have the audacity to laugh and to yell and to celebrate and to be happy.

So we continue to live while the majority population has worked very hard to destroy us. Because the main problem, the main problem is, like I said, the abuser can't look at the victim and ask the victim how to tell them, how can I stop abusing you? The problem is, when you have these conversations, the same people that can type into the internet, all lives matter, are the same people that don't think that they're racist. Whenever we have this conversation about how to change things and how to make things different, right? No white person will say,

I am part of the problem. That's what never happens. Nobody will acknowledge that they are the problem we're all talking about these mythical white people that are the issue because every white person's like well i'm not except the ones that are flat out racist some of them will be like oh now fuck what am i sending him to jail i don't care but most of them have been taught you'd be racist and you'd be quiet about it so how can you fix the system when the abuser won't acknowledge that they are abusing right yeah that's the first thing that has to happen you have to go I am part of the problem you can't be part of the solution

if you are the one causing the problem you can fix it but how can you be part of the solution while denying the fact that the issue was initialized by everybody who looks like you

that's what has to happen before these black squares and before you keep this energy up and before you it's if this is going to get fixed it is not our job to fix it this is y'all because we didn't make

this system we didn't start this system we don't work in this system we didn't hop on them boats don't work in this system we didn't hop on them boats because we wanted to we were kidnapped and since then we've been still been treated like we are owned we always have that's why white women call the police on black people because they feel like that we are beholden to them we have to answer for where we are if we are in their space. Yeah. We're in our own building and you're calling the cops on us.

Yep. Bitch, I live here. I paid a rent here. But since you don't like me in this space, I can die? Mm-hmm. You know what happens when you call them. Like that heifer that called the cops on that man who was watching the birds. You saw in the video how she changed her voice. She knew exactly what to do.

Didn't even have to think about it. And apparently I heard she Canadian. So she from here and she know the campaign. Right. Because it's worldwide. And I think that's you can see from here and she know the campaign. Right. Because it's worldwide. And I think that's you can see it all over the world, too. It's worldwide because this is what the thing is. We can't go nowhere.

Yeah. I'm not wanted here. I'm not even I'm not connected where I'm genetically from. I'm from here. But people can look me dead in my face and go well if you don't like this country why don't you go back to africa i told this dude if you don't like this country why don't you go back to europe and he was like what do you mean i was like france i said france england ireland germany all of them places are not the united states of america we both got here on boats so if'm leaving, you leave and don't play with me.

Because if we don't like the country, we can go back to Africa. If these white folks don't like this country, nobody's telling them to go back. Because they have innate ownership of this place. We built the fuck. We literally built the fucking White House. When they signed the Declaration of Independence, we handed them the paper and the pen. I'm sorry. Quill.

So don't start with me. Right. We do this all day with y'all. And then they wonder why we don't work. It seems like with this particular protest, all the black people finally figured out, you know what? They got to say something to each other because y'all have made it quite clear you're not listening to us and i really have hope for these police officers that i see kneeling and doing all this other shit i hope it's not a photo

op because when i first started seeing it i was like okay maybe things is changing but this is a whole group of people who have been trained to take orders Because when I first started seeing it, I was like, okay, maybe things is changing. But this is a whole group of people who have been trained to take orders. So it's, hey, we don't want no problems. Go out there and kneel. And the other one's like, fuck it. Cut them up. I don't know. I want to believe that these men and women are actually motivated and can actually see the humanity in us to kneel

yeah but what i know if shonda rhimes and scandal taught me anything is that a photo op optics are very important so i hope it's real but at the same time y'all taught me the rules of the game since day one so i know what the campaign is i hope it's real. But at the same time, y'all have taught me the rules of the game since day one. So I know what the campaign is. I hope it's real. Sorry, I rambled. Sorry. Nah.

And I think, yeah, we're going to have Pastor Eddie Anderson on to talk a little bit more just about what to do with all this energy. All right, let's take a quick break. And when we come back, we'll have Pastor Eddie Anderson on. take a quick break and when we come back we'll have Pastor Eddie Anderson. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you.

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You have to be ready for serious backlash. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back and miles like i mentioned earlier you've been talking about not just focusing on pointing out uh the problem but also ways forward and a solution. And you were able to book a guest, Pastor Edward Anderson, Eddie Anderson, Pastor Eddie, who is going to help us talk about that. Pastor Eddie, thank you so much for joining us. Yeah. Thank you for having me on, Jack. I'm out. Yeah, anytime.

You know, Pastor Eddie, like, you know, I got to you through other activists and organizers I know. So I'm very thankful to them for putting us in contact because I think, you know, we have a responsibility as a show. Like, we do preach empathy, equality, and justice on this show. uh equality and justice on this show and i think now is it now is the time where we have to begin giving people the tools they need to actually begin uh making those kinds of changes so you know i wanted to bring you on because uh there was a lot of misconceptions about what happened in la over the weekend uh in terms of peaceful protests and things like that and and you've helped organize those things so you know we just want to give you the time to, to speak to everybody and, and give us a bit of wisdom right now.

Uh, and, and, and learn about what we can all do to kind of help push this thing forward and not let the flame die out. Thanks, man. Yeah. Yeah. I want to address, uh, protests on Saturday. So I work with, um,

Black Lives Matter as a pastor advocate at Pastor Church in South Los Angeles, Cardinal Memorial Christian Church. And the protest was organized by Bill Power and Black Lives Matter LA. Me and another pastor, Pastor Q, we led the protest, the march to the street, right? And so it's 5,000 people plus into the street. We march all the way from 3rd Street over there by the Grove, all the way down to La Cienega. Cross every intersection as we were coming down the street, we saw people coming out of their businesses, clapping. We saw people honking their horns, people saying Black Lives Matter. We were clear. We were marching because of Black death, because George Floyd's life was killed and he was lynched in front of our eyes. But we also were marching for our Black future, to claim that we have dignity and respect. So, yes, as Black people, we have the right to be angry.

We have the right to be mad. And we have the right to peacefully protest in the street. And so we prayed, we chanted, we chanted prosecute killer cops, we chanted defund the police, we chanted George Floyd's name, Breonna Taylor's name, we prayed in the street, we said the asada. After we said the asada, which is, you know, we have nothing to lose but our chains, we must protect one another. We started walking back down the street. Me and the other passengers at the protest and what we saw unravel before our eyes was police brutality. Cops coming down the street in armored trucks with riot gear and guns ready to go, batons, a standoff being set up. We saw a cop car on fire at 3rd and Fairfax, but when we just crossed that street about 30 to 45 minutes before, there was no cop car there. Right. And so we're saying, you know, you come to people with white gear, batons and rubber bullets.

You will incite a riot. You will change the energy. Well, what do you expect? Yeah. Yeah. In a way, like police are dressed like that because they almost know their own karma. Yeah. Like they are almost like, man, if they're as mad as as mad as I would be for treating these people, I would be I would pull up in tanks, too. mad as I would be for treating these people, I would be, I would pull up in tanks too. Yeah. I mean, I think police are, are, they know that the system of policing has been wretched, that it stems from slave catching, right? And that it's been oppressing black people for centuries and decades, right? Like this isn't... When you saw... What you saw in the streets was in response to George Floyd, but it's also in response in L.A.

to Black people being stopped five times as more than white counterparts. It's also in response to enhancement in gang databases. It's in response to years and years of oppression and seeing the disparities

in our country, in our economy, especially in LA. And then you're giving the police a raise, right? Like 54% of the LA budget is going towards police. That's $3.1 billion. Right. Excuse me. We're in the middle of a global pandemic.

We couldn't figure out how to get health workers who are risking their lives, protective gear they needed, how to make sure people get tested in time right so it's like but they got plenty of flash bangs and rubber bullets right you know in drums you know i think a lot of the work that you do is so important and and the thing about a moment like this i'm sure is you see a lot of energy uh for people to act and i think a lot of people are have the same kind of will uh to begin to do something and i think a lot of people it's the takes i see on social media and like watching other people like you know what well what's what's the next part like what are we going to do next and things like that and i think not that there has to be like this is the one thing know, can, can you speak a bit to helping people? Like, like what's the vision

of the future for people to begin to buy into? So they know the kinds of things that their support is going to be needed. That's a good question. Uh, the next step is feel your anger, feel your pain and organize and mobilize and mobilize, right? We're in the middle of an election year, so you saw yesterday there was an action at the mayor's house, right, shutting it down at the mayor's house for the People's Budget LA, and that's simply, we surveyed over 10,000 Angelenos and asked them, what's your priority for a budget? Is it to give the police a raise, or do you want more health care, better schools? Do you want to invest in our neighborhoods, make sure that black communities have an economy of care, black and brown communities,

right? So that's the next step. People's budget LA, that budget fight we saw yesterday, the budget went into effect, but then you saw right away the city council president tweet and say like, the budget's not done yet. You know, we still got to do this work. And it's like the team plugging in there today at 3 p.m. We'll be going to Jackie Lace's office for two years. Black Lives Matter has been organizing this protest. It says prosecute killer cops. The 601 deaths in LA, there are officer involved. At the hands of LAPD. Right. You know, and so only two of them have even had

charges and none of them have really been prosecuted. There's an election in November where we can get rid of Jackie Lacey once and for all. It gets thrown in the office who actually would take black trauma, black death seriously and prosecute people who are killing our people. Right. So that's another thing, right? How do we plug in and make sure we're voting in elections you want to prosecute killer cops so you want to make sure we're going to get a da that can do that as well these are ways you can plug in and channel your anger as well as show up in the streets miles do you think what what do you think are good places for because i've seen that pointed out as a uh as a solution to uh or anyone but as a solution is like to vote on your local elections like do

you guys have any uh resources that people can use to kind of research that local stuff i just like are we just like going with the local paper to like saying how do you avoid the misinformation rather yeah the misinformation because like you said at the top like there everything the local news the local media everything is so shot through with misinformation and you know capitalism and white supremacy that it's it feels hard like right now the best way to get access to the information that pastor eddie was talking about is on social media which like typically people are like don't trust social media like social media but like that's the only place that you're finding out the fucking truth right now like so in terms of like what with the solution how do we research the solution when everything is so

corrupt yeah i think there's uh coalitions that have been doing this work in la that you can amplify so justice la have been doing the work around, should we close prisons? The DA Coalition for Justice and Accountability is highlighting the DA race. The Appeal is doing good work on this as well. And then, of course, follow BLM LA, follow the Movement for Black Lives, follow Reform LA Jails, which is highlighting how can we do this work. Students Deserve is also another organization, LA Voice as well. But also, I would encourage people to just be as active as possible. If you can't find it, search for it. Because it'll be too easy to say, well, I didn't know who to vote for because I couldn't

find the thing. Well, start understanding your own community. Start knowing who the people are that maintaining these kinds of systems of oppression. And so because when you can identify them and their transgressions, it's much easier to say, oh, that's somebody who I shouldn't vote for, even though they might have a D next to their name when I go to the poll. That's not somebody I should vote for. Because I think the next step also too is finding you know like you said there's an election coming up so now is also a very important time to begin demanding more from your leaders as

well and say well where do you stand on black lives and and and can you can will you out loud in a speech say that systemic white supremacy is an issue and will you say that out loud to your constituents because if you don't i don't know if I can trust you to solve that problem because you can't even identify it. Right. And I think those are the things that we also need to begin to demand more from our leaders as well. And that can be as proactive as calling your representative now, say, hey, I'm going to vote for you. But just so you know, I want an agenda from you as a leader that addresses systemic injustice, racial injustice, and all of these things as a voter. That's one thing, too.

I'll take you straight on because the city council president said, oh, we're going to start debate again on 6-8 for the city budget. You can call your elected official, the ones who have been silent during the protests, and say, hey, here's the way you can help. You can reinvest the money that you are going to spend on things that we need on health, on health care. You reinvest it on on schools. Right. We're in the middle of a global pandemic. You can shift those resources right now. It doesn't have to be this way. Right. Pastor Eddie, another thing I want to talk about is your work with the Poor People's Campaign, because that is really a continuation of work that was starting decades ago. Right. You know, a lot of a lot of these injustices that we're going to overcome is because we have solidarity.

Like we're saying before we had you on. It's not just enough for black people to let their pain be known and these injustices known. It's also that we also need everybody else's help to steer this ship in the right way. So I would love to also give you a second to tell people about the Poor People's Campaign. The Poor People's Campaign is continuing where Dr. Martin Luther King and others started in 1968 when he was assassinated. Nationally, it's led by my good friend, Reverend William J. Barber and Liz Theoharis. It's basically just saying that there are still 145 million poor people in America. In California, that's one in four children are poor. That's one in four women are poor. It shows up as Black women in L.A not have to be a problem in this nation, especially in California, where we have the fifth largest economy in the world. And yet we have the second highest homeless rate in the entire nation. L.A. County has a high homeless rate in any city in the country, right?

And we aren't talking about Black Lives Matter. Yeah, Black Lives Matter, because 45% of the people who are on the streets are Black, but yet we're less than 9% of the population in L.A. County. Yeah, in L.A. County. Right? So let's talk about what we're really doing to solve the problem.

Portland's campaign is highlighting that across the country. They're getting ready. We're getting ready for a moral digital march because we're going to do a march on Washington on June 20th, 2020. That's now online via Zoom, the Portland's campaign.org to see that info or you can follow me on Instagram and I'll post stuff on that as well. Awesome. Is there anything else you wanted to discuss before we let you go, Pastor Eddie? Yeah, I just want to encourage people, continue to show up in the street, continue to protest, make your voice known, follow the movements that are doing the work, put your dollars in those movements as well. People are getting arrested right now.

We're in a military state. So the curfew, we're hearing every night People are getting arrested right now. We're in a militarized state. So the curfew, we're hearing every night people are getting arrested. So if you can help people out, do that as well. We need your voice. This is your movement, your revolution. And it's time for now to turn up in the streets. Thanks so much for visiting us, Pastor Eddie. Where can people kind of follow the work you do? And just if they want to direct anybody to anywhere please let them know uh you can follow me on instagram it's eddie l anderson you can follow blm la to figure out the works that's going on as well as people's budget la importance campaign uh dot org all right let's take a quick break and we'll be back I've been thinking about you.

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Did you see the footage of the people in Philadelphia, the roving gangs of white dudes with bats walking around after curfew? white dudes with bats walking around after curfew. We talked on yesterday's episode about the kind of racist history of the curfews in America, but that was... Talk about the racist history of Pennsylvania. Jesus. Or America. Whoa. It's like we have to keep zooming out.

We have so many examples that are the microscopic version that we always try and solve it at the microscopic level when we really need to have the 10 000 foot altitude discussion about all of this because if we're not addressing all that shit underneath it's gonna keep happening, because when y'all asked me what myth I wanted to talk about, the myth that I had was that America likes to act like the South is the only place that's racist. That's the biggest myth. The biggest myth. It is so amazing.

Come to L.A. Come to L come to la i've lived here come on down i lived in la before i moved to new york guess what come to new york guess what go to chicago guess what go to fort way to indiana or arkansas or the entire united states of america so yeah i think that's the moment and i talk about it all the time because these Yankees really feel like that they let that they're well, what do you? Well, I'm not. And that's what I said in my half hour.

I know y'all are more racist. Y'all split up white people. Y'all have Italian neighborhoods, Irish neighborhoods. My neighborhood originally was a Greek neighborhood Boston and I also say to people all the time people have always heard this and it's apparently this is something

I've heard you know more than once in my life and only from white people for the most part it's you get your bachelor's you get your bachelor's in racism in the south you get your master's in boston so that's a whole different like y'all is y'all are splitting up white who has the time to get that specific with a racism and i was like oh y'all, oh, y'all cannot put this on one place in this country.

It is wild to me. There were sundown towns all over the country. There was redlining all over the country. Oregon was created as a white haven state. Black people were not even allowed to live there because the Civil War sympathizer created the state. Confederate sympathizer created the state. So I

think that's one of the big myths in America. Is that we like to act like that racism only occurs in 13 states that are kissed by the sun.

No, I'm not. I can't. I really, I'm over this game. I'm over this game. Because there's a map of all of the shootings of unarmed black people. If the South was so much more racist, there should be way more shootings in the South. Yeah. And there isn't.

It's all over the country right because the police are all over the country because black people are all over the country so i i and that's another thing is white people not being accountable for what they're doing because you can point the finger at them because you already see southerners as backers back you know backwards and toothless and shoeless and all of this. Someone's like, well, that's just what I think about the South and Georgia. And I'm like, we had an Olympics. Stop it.

If we was that backwards, they wouldn't have gave us a damn Olympics. Calm the hell down, okay? Right, right, right. Yeah. I mean, yeah. That's my big myth. Yeah, and I think it's back to the thing of like white supremacy will always find ways of preserving itself by changing the discussion or not having a discussion on white supremacy because objectively white supremacy is bad and there's not a person who could stand on

that foot without looking like an absolute you know fill-in you know alt-right thinker here but it's on its face there There's not a person who's going to be like, oh, no, white supremacy is good. And if you are, that's a very specific person. But if you're not constantly talking about it, you won't be able to begin to see all the ways it's manifesting in our society. And I think that's why we get so caught up. It's going to be a lot easier for people to say, well well change the police and change how we police things and just solve that problem rather than going further out and say well no no hold on hold on you're not even you're the police is already uh a manifestation of white slavery from its roots in slavery so we can't even we can't even have a discussion about that because

we're not going far back enough and we're not looking at the totality of it. We've all seen enough episodes of Law & Order to know that the police are the first step. Yeah. That's your first step. The police are the first ones I deal with. The next one that I deal with is the court system. The next one that I deal with is the court system. Now, the policing is inherently biased and inherently racist and inherently a tool of white supremacy.

The court system is inherently biased, inherentlyencing for powdered cocaine and crack cocaine. They're both cocaine. But since this one got cooked, you go to jail longer. But who did it? You go to jail longer. But who did it? Mm-hmm. And so when you talk about, because this is, because one day, you know, I was talking to some people about, you know, white people about this opioid crisis.

And I, and me, and another black person said, my sympathy for this is going to be a little lacking and they said why i said because this opioid epidemic has happened and now we're all required we're all being asked to have sympathy for the the addicts we're supposed to have sympathy for these people. This is a mental health problem. This is an issue. When the crack epidemic happened, you sent people to jail. When the mess epidemic happened,

and that was white people, you sent them to jail. You sent black people to jail. You sent poor white people to jail. But because the people that can afford these opioids are middle class and higher, now all of a sudden, we have a health crisis. We've already had two drug epidemics before that.

What is the difference now? It's what the people look like. What do the addicts look like? Because we forget another tool of white supremacy is institutional poverty. Because the greatest thing that the Republican Party ever did was convince poor white people

that they had their best interests in mind. And those same people who don't realize, because I know the American dream don't apply to me. You wrote the Constitution when Africans were being enslaved. So I know this,

from day one, this wasn't for me. But if you were white in this country, this document was written for you. But when you think about it, when it was written, when the constitution was written, only white men who owned land could vote. So if you are currently a poor white person who doesn't own anything, they weren't talking about you.

And they've never been talking about you. And yet they've convinced you that the reason that your life is the way that it is, not because they have defunded your neighborhoods, kept your kids uneducated, kept you in a place where you're always going to have to be a servant class to them they've told you the reason you live like this because bootstrapping is a myth we know that but you've sold them on bootstrapping and told them you live like this because these black people are doing good you live like this because these immigrants are coming and taking your jobs it's not us we didn't do anything yeah we care about family values we care about families in the american dream they're not talking about the fact that they made y'all pull all this coal out of mountain now there's no jobs we send all the factories overseas there's no jobs yeah look whose pockets are fatter it's not like all the all the stats that you know

you look at for black people in this country it's not they go black america is thriving white people be on alert because i don't know where this money's going i think it's going to black america are you fucking look at the state of our lives and tell me that we're taking something from you? No, look at the people, look above you now. Look at the billionaires that padded their pockets during the pandemic somehow. How did that happen?

But 10 rappers got money, so all the black people got money. Right, exactly. Because remember, we're a monolith. Yeah. Me and you, in this conversation, to a lot of people that are listening, me and Miles now represent every single black person in this country. Jack represents Jack.

Jack gets to be one person. We are millions of people on this conversation. That's the difference. I did an interview and the girl tried to insinuate to me that because I am a quote unquote black celebrity. And she goes, well, you're a celebrity. I said, no, girl, I'm on TV. That's that's two different things. So what well what do you mean i said when i walk into a restaurant they don't get excited they ask me how many so when they start getting excited that's

when i'm gonna know yeah instead of saying ma'am there's a 15 minute wait no i want you to shut the whole restaurant down your girl is in the building yeah i can't i'm here for your finest tap water yeah you know so or my mama liked to call it house wine so but she was trying to sing and she was basically she was saying because i am a black person who is well known i will i am dealing with less racism and i said i you don't understand how this works and i i heard that shit too growing up because i grew up predominantly around white people and a they're not learning that i'm actually diminishing my own blackness to be able to operate in their white space as a child like i'm already like all it took was a few comments from a teacher to correct the way i spoke for me

to say oh okay and so my mama did that yeah my mom and my grandma they're like no no no no no no you are going you you have to speak a certain way if you are going to get a good job oh don't get me wrong i i was also told that too that was all these are this is all part of the so you want to make it in america starter kit first learn how to make yourself smaller less imposing less threatening speak as like fucking smiley and wide-eyed as possible so people aren't afraid of you but then there's this other thing too where people say well you're not black, you know, like you're half black or whatever. Let me tell you something. I still see my family being killed when I see black people mistreated. I still see the all this injustice happening as being a part of who I am.

That's just based on your media informed definition of what a black person. No, that's you wanting to be okay with knowing me yeah right so i'm not black black first of all and that goes you know i've talked to various black actors and we've all talked about being in auditions and somebody we've all seen hollywood show yeah it's the same thing but according to america there was very much this one drop rule mentality in some places it was an actual law and one drop rule show sweetheart you're great great great grandmother could have been black and you're black that's what the whole movie showboat is about so for me it's there's no way that i can look at somebody and you know sometimes it is a thing I think one people

treat what the mixture is differently it's well you're black and what right because I'm also going to figure out how to take you in as black people what they mix with

what Puerto Rican I just need to speak Spanish she's? Ah, it's just niggas that speak Spanish. She's fine. Right. Or it's what? Black and white? Hmm. What did mama say?

Black and Asian? Right. Or they kids just pretty. All right, fine. Right. Like we have this like, okay, give me what the other one is so I can figure out how to act. But it's, I'm not, you know, I'm mostly according to the paperwork.

Because it's like, I have a friend who's half Middle Eastern, half white, but she, her physical features present more as white. So she is treated like a white woman. And she tells people all the time, no, I'm, you know, my father is Middle Eastern, my father is Middle Eastern, and everyone's like yeah that's cute right so you'd only be taken in as how you look yeah and i've lived in a lot you know and i've lived in predominantly white places i live in predominantly black places i've lived in but for the most of my life i lived in very mixed i lived in very mixed like life I lived in very mixed neighborhoods

middle school, high school and I grew up in Atlanta so I'm accustomed to seeing black money I'm accustomed to seeing black excellence been in the King Center, Martin Luther King's house my brother Ebenezer Baptist Church did all of this

so you can't tell me that I'm not great. You can't tell me we can't do great stuff. And you have proof that we can. Yeah. Because you've seen us do it. You've seen us do it. They just spent five weeks celebrating it with the last dance.

Right. So what are we what are we what are we what are we doing yeah and so i think it's gotten to the point where it's just like we're in the middle of the pit because this is the hardest thing about what's going on right now as us black people when these things happen you get around your friends you're in a safe space and i don't know i always use the term safe space because all these girls talking about safe space safe a safe space and i don't know i always use the term safe space because all these girls talking about safe space safe space safe space girl i'm in america i know we're safe but except my mama house that's the limit um talking about the pandemic is it the pandemic it's i'm trying to find the best way to explain that because I know how I feel.

Whenever things like this happen, whenever there's this, you know, now we're marching again. And now, you know, even during the march, somebody else got killed. They're not listening to us. They're not paying attention. You have the opportunities to be around other black people. And I don't have to say anything. I don't have to tell somebody I'm okay. I don't have to do, I don't have to go through all'm okay i don't have to do i don't have to go through all of this emotional labor trying to make you feel okay because that's the other part

because if they feel like they didn't make us feel better then now i'm going through the emotional labor making you feel better for not making me feel better this is not yeah this is not fair to me you call to make me feel better man hey, get off my phone because you know what? You're not going to get it. You don't even go to this school. So you're not going to get it. But you have the opportunity usually when things like this happen to be around other black people and to be in a space where I don't have to tell you what's wrong. Right. And we can heal off the energy of each other and get that little boost that you need to just be like, all right, let's go do this again. Right.

And now we're in a pandemic. So it's, I can't be around my friends. I can't get that recharge. I can't get that thing of, you get it. Yeah. Nothing has to be said. I'm not on my phone yelling. Right.

I'm not yelling into the void of the internet. You're just like, you just get to sit there and you're just like I am with black people I am good even if we're at a comedy club we're in a white space all of us are here and everybody here gets it and it's a way to heal

and to recharge and we can't do that right and that's one of the hardest parts about this and now they're talking about right now and that's one of the hardest parts about this and now they're talking about the numbers might go back up with the COVID because of the protests and I'm just like what is I want a refund next year needs to be also called

2020 because we need a do over history will show that it was 2020 and then it was 2020 part 2 everybody's the same age you ain't getting no older fuck your zoom history will show that it was 2020 and then it was 2020 part 2 yeah everybody's the same age you ain't getting no older fuck your zoom birthday party this did not happen we're doing a reset

don't print 2021 calendars just yet no put the 2020s back all over again cause something slipped in the matrix I don't know who's god you pissed off but they mad well Dulce Something slipped in the matrix. I don't know who's God you pissed off, but they mad. Well, Dulce, it has been amazing having you on the Daily Zeitgeist, honestly.

Thanks, friends. Yeah, thank you. All time great, great guests. We were so excited to have you on, and it was amazing having you. Where can people find you and follow you and check you out? I'm on the interwebs at Dulcesloan, D-U-L-C-E-S-L-O-A-N. I also have a new podcast that just started in April called That Black Ass Show. Miles miles i will have to have you on i would love to come on so basically it is a podcast about black tv shows and um films and even you know black plays that have you know shaped the world

and continue to shape the world and i've talked um, the episode that it comes out every Wednesday. Um, so yesterday, uh, we put out the episode with, uh, Yasser Lester. And we were talking about tales from the hood. And first of all,

a movie has never scared me as much as that movie did, which is why I couldn't, I just, ah, it's so scary. Um, and I don't do horror movies. It was awful,

but there's four vignettes in it and the first vignette is about police brutality so we you know talk about the four different vignettes in the movie and how they're relevant to what's going on right now and i've talked to like ron funches about fear of a black hat i talked to thea vidal about her show thea and how you know back in the mid 90s she was fighting to get black writers on her show and which is crazy because we're still having that same fight so yep and it's on starburns audio and it's on spotify and itunes amazing and um just catch me when i'm on a daily show when I'm on the Daily Show. Sometimes I know when I'm going to be on. Sometimes I don't know when I'm going to be on.

And is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying or want people to check out? I'm a huge fan of them there cat videos. Love a cat video. There's a comic in Vancouver named Hassan Phils and his Instagram is called Philing Myself.

And his Instagram has been my favorite thing to watch during quarantine. There was a push-up challenge he was doing and he was like, what? Can't come for me. And he does push-ups with two hands, and then just push-ups with one hand, and then he tries to do push-ups with no hands, and then he just falls on his back and rolls, and he's just going, ah, ah, ah.

It's very silly. He has conversations with himself like he's with his homeboy. I love it. It's very funny. I love him. Miles, where can people find you, follow you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter, Instagram, PlayStation Network, Miles of Grey.

Also my other podcast, 420 Day Fiance, where you get high talking about 90 Day Fiance. Help soothe our wounds. Another, let's see, some tweets that I like. The first one is from The Onion. It's a picture of Bill de Blasio, mayor of New York, says, De Blasio,

it is an honor to have my daughter doxxed by the greatest police force in the world. This dude. That is pretty on the nose. And then another one, at Some Gizmo, it says,

Antifa is an organization the same way that, people who hate Dave Matthews Band, end quote, is an organization. All right. You can find me in, follow me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. I'll just go with at Karen Han tweeted, hey, New York Times, what the fuck is this?

And it was the op-ed from Tom Cotton. Just said, send in the troops. Oh, yeah, that was. Dude, the New York Times continues continues to lose lost its way wait what happened tom cotton has been like the spokesperson other than trump for let's use the military to you know enforce to to abuse for these people asking for rights. Yes. And they gave him an op-ed. They let him go on their op-ed page

and say, send in the truth. What? Yeah. The whole piece starts, this week, rioters have plunged many American cities into anarchy. That's the first sentence of this thing. Get the... And this is what I'm talking about.

That's not... No. That's not happening. No. That's not... I also like the tweet from the person who is in the same building as Meghan McCain. And Meghan McCain is like,

I walked outside of my building and it was sheer chaos. Girl, girl. She's like painting a picture. I saw that and I just went. Sometimes God moves quick. You understand? Sometimes the Lord just comes through and go,

we ain't going to, certain things we ain't going to live today. I invited you to my wedding. Invited you to my wedding. It's like, girl, we live in the same building. You're fine. But the audacity to even type out a lie like that. Well, because again,

and I hate to come back into the content of the show, but they need this version of what is happening out here to delegitimize what the reason is for this uprising. So then all they can do is be like, I don't know people are mad and they're just burning stuff down. This is really ridiculous. You saw the Patagonia story in Santa Monica

where the boy left on the skateboard and his friend pulled off on a motorcycle? Yeah, exactly. You know that wasn't us. Come on now. And that's why the police were fine with that. They were more focused on the people fighting white supremacy, not stealing shit. Because the guy was like, are you with Black Lives Matter? And he was like,

looked at him and went, zing. I don't have to answer this question. Bitch, I got a skateboard. Like, I mean, a surfboard. A whole surfboard? You don't think that looks... It's LA. It's not going to look suspicious if you're mean a surfboard a whole surfboard yeah there's you don't think that looks it's la it's not gonna look suspicious if you're holding a surfboard in a motorcycle never mind i digest uh and then uh yeah okay that was it wait i think jack you were oh that's right we got spun off from the tom cotton thing yeah uh anyways you can find me on twitter jack underscore o'brien

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If you are a big tree, then we are a small axe, ready to cut you down. And I think that's just, you know, we have to just, you know, keep your ears and eyes open. And please don't, this energy is going to have to just keep your ears and eyes open, and please don't do this energy. It's going to have to continue. That's the only thing I can keep saying. That's all I can say. Well, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app,

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