The Daily Zeitgeist - Myth Busting In a Blizzard of BS, Dudesy's Dubious AI 01.12.23

Episode Date: January 12, 2024

In episode 1607, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian, Blake Wexler, to discuss… The Hague Hears Case Against Israeli Genocide, Fake Epstein Docs, AI George Carlin Could Be Part Of A Larger Internet Hoax and more! The Hague Hears Case Against Israeli Genocide Q&A: Will Israel be charged with genocide at The Hague? South Africa’s genocide case against Israel: How will the ICJ decide? Fake Epstein Docs AI George Carlin Could Be Part Of A Larger Internet Hoax Tom Brady Threatens to Sue Comedians Who Impersonated Him in AI Comedy Special Meet ‘Dudesy:’ The AI that hosts a comedy podcast with B.C.-born actor Will Sasso ChatGPT might kill us all ... with dad jokes Can Robots Crack a Joke? The Limits of AI’s Humor Understanding The funny formula: Why machine-generated humor is the holy grail of A.I. LISTEN: Set It Off by GiggsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Damn it. Off top. It's Friday, January 12th, 2024. You know what that is? Oh, Miles.

Hey, do I know what that is? If you've got, if you've got Auburn hairs and that little bit of a red tinge, You know what that is? Miles. Hey. Do I know what that is? I don't. If you've got auburn hairs and that little bit of a red tinge, guess what? It's Kiss of Ginger Day. And it's also National Marzipan Day. Look, all my almond lovers, I got a lot of almond lovers in my life. And we fuck with the marzipan.

Not like the blocks of it. But when it's in a pastry, I like that. Also, National Curry and Chicken Day. National Pharmacist Day. I hear you're shorthanded at the pharmacy, though. Not a lot of pharmacy assistants out there these days. It's hard, but we see you. Thank you.

We see you, pharmacists. We see you, gingers, and we're coming for you with kiss lips. And you legally have to let us kiss you because that's the day. Could you imagine? You know there are some weird-ass bosses out there who are going to learn. It's the law. Hey, look, it's kiss a ginger. What was I supposed to do, hug you?

No, I follow directions. What? Why are you calling the cops? First of all, it's very respectful to refer to you as a ginger. Second of all, I get to kiss you. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Dig a big hole where you work. Now place where I think about a chill-ass tunnel.

Wonder why you haven't before. That is courtesy of Willie K, a little stand, REMass tunnel. Wonder why you haven't before. That is courtesy of Willie K. A little stand, REM, tunnel. Feeling the call of the tunnel, folks. The tunnels are calling. I want to just crawl around in the sewers. I want to build my own sewers.

Some weird Ninja Turtle shit going on. I want to get on some weird Ninja Turtle shit. I want my dad to be a rat. And I'll eat his pizza. You know, the Ninja Turtles are like really about found family when you come down to it. Yeah, truly. Wow.

People love to tell you things are about found family. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. It's Miles Gray. I don't know if I'm a to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. It's Miles Gray. I don't know if I'm a time traveler. I've been in a tunnel too long, but I'm still jet lag, Joe Namath, because I could care less about my sleep pattern struggling or my toddler's sleep struggling. It is keeping me up so late. I just want to kiss him. It is keeping me up so late.

I just want to kiss him. And he just wants to just rip my face off because he's at that age where he just snatches at your face and scratches your face. He's discovered his nails. Dude, his nails are fucking adamantium. The other day when I was in Japan, one of my aunts was like, oh, shit, what happened? Did you fall drunk or something? And it was like, no, he clawed out like half of my own cheek skin. I did not go face surfing on the pavement. Yeah.

That's one of my favorite pastimes in my 20s, face surfing on the pavement. Just face surfing on the pavement, dude. Call me Kelly Slater. I do love that your aunt in this scenario is comfortable enough with you to be like, you fall drunk? Well, that's just how Asian culture is. is it's like there's no punches pulled they're like what do you fall down drunk because you all fucked up or it's like oh wow is it because you you you ate too much last night because i saw how much you ate last night is that why your your whole center of gravity was off that's how you felt i'm like no the baby ripped my skin off no next question whereas my entire life is just

moving from one pulled punch to another just a steady dance-like movement from one punch to another people know people the the immigrant families know it's direct to your face and a cause for a lot of therapy and the cycles we're trying to break and also we wrestle with the fact like but it's love i think or wait is that a toxic way to i don't know i don't know what happened man you got a you got a crippling problem or something what's going on exactly wow she's like what is that cut on your face what i was like wow you're a lot balder really yeah i'm like yeah you know time that's. Time has come today for my hairline. Time.

But yeah, that's just how it is. That's just how it works. That's just how it works out there. People know. If you know, you know. If you know, you know. If you know, you know. Pulling up on that.

I don't know the rest of those things. But I do know those are the first words. Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a brilliant comedian, writer, actor. He is riding a recumbent bike in his short shorts. He is the inventor of the idea to refer to one's legs as plumpers. He's got a bunch of great stand-up albums you should go check out. Right now, he is Blake Wexler!

Blake! Hey, this is Blake Wexler, a.k.a. He Spends His Nights in California. Interviewing stars on his podcast. My name is Blake, and I wonder, why can't that be me if i could be like jack i'd give anything i'd even watch arsenal wearing model shoes if i could be like jack what would i do lord what would i do this is an iheartmedia production production. A collaboration with iHeartPlayers.net. I am so happy to be here. Thank you, guys.

We found out about our collaboration with iHeartPlayers? iHeartPlayers. iHeartPlayers. Exactly. I love iHeartPlayers. It's a 50-50 venture between us and Ryan Seacrest. Seacrest. Big fan.

Big fan. Seacrest. Love him. Seacrest out. Yeah. No Seacrests here we we tell the whole truth i see crest i eat crest and i've been saying that for years i secretly love this line of jokes that we're venturing down I could care less about the team struggling. I wish.

I'm so not sharp right now. It's like I'm about to run off. To go drink coffee or something. To jump start my brain. I've been up. Just hug holding a baby. Trying to get them to fall back asleep. For I don't know like five hours straight.

It doesn't work like that apparently. Just repeating the phrase in your on, shut the fuck up. Like a, like a Buddhist cone. Yeah. Like to the point. Sleep, mother fucker.

Sleep. Yeah. One step of footprints. That's because I was carrying you through this podcast. So don't worry. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah.

I'm going to need you, Jesus. I need you, Jesus. I need you. Please. Thanks for having us with great legs. Yeah. I'm going to need you, Jesus. I need you, Jesus. I need you, Jesus, please. Thanks for having me. Jesus with great legs.

Great to have you, Blake. I feel like his tunic should have been more shortcut sometimes, you know? Thank you. What do you mean, on the cross? No, he was pretty, he was showing a lot on the cross. He was showing, he was giving you a lot on the cross. The robe is usually very flowy where it's like let's see those legs man you got a great body don't be a prude jesus maybe a little higher

slit on that tunic you know what i mean let the fucking quads fly baby thank you and i know it's about a triune god but you can allow this quad concept through sir thank. Thank you. See, you got it. What do you mean you're jet lagged? Slowly, slowly. It takes talks of Christ. Thank you. See, I had to call on Jesus. The blessings come in. Ah, Shakira, blah, blah, blah.

The blessings come in. Blessings come in. Blake, how are you doing? How was your break? We hung out right before break. Blake's break was, yeah, Winter Blake was great. We found out that we stayed three miles away from one another in Florida. Didn't even make an attempt to see one another

because we have that sort of respect for one another. That's right. We didn't want to ruin each other's breaks. But truly like right around the same place in the same town. You found out in real time or after the fact? After the fact. Before. Oh,

okay. No, no, no. Before, before, before. Yeah.

In real time, like as we were ending the recording, we were like, oh, so what are you doing? What are you doing? Oh, and then you're like, that's right down the road.

You're like, cool, man. Well, don't call me all right well we got a lot of families yeah yeah wait so blake what's your connection to that that's your in-laws stand my in-laws are there yeah area and it was like fort myers naples bonita Springs area and I mean it was beautiful we went out on a boat we towed another boat because this is the most Florida thing I hope I ever say like God willing from my lips to God's ears to your mouths um I really hope that this is the most Florida thing I ever say where we towed a boat because a boat hit a dead iguana that was in the the gulf and it blew up the engine like the engine couldn't handle or the motor the propeller couldn't handle this the core scales of this fallen beast this land beast which i don't even know why it was in the water they like the water yeah we had to tow

a boat yeah and how did this was someone like like like, hey, hey, we hit a dead iguana. And then were you doing that thing? Or if that was me, I'm like, no, they're trying to fucking rob us, bro. Keep going. I was like, I want nothing, absolutely nothing to do with this. Luckily, we were within eyeline of like many houses. We're kind of going through a little. But if we were out to see them, I'm sorry.

Hope everything's okay over there. I would never. That everything's okay over there. Sounds like bullshit. No, I would never. That's an old pirate's trick. The old, oh, we're broke. Yeah, it does sound like the excuse I would have come up with if I had to on the spot make up a reason why our boat was fake stranded. I'm like, out here? Yeah, we hit a dead iguana.

A cow. A sea cow. A manatee, I mean. Yes, a manatee is what we hit a dead iguana. A cow. A sea cow. A manatee, I mean. Yes, a manatee is what we hit. Or a man in a t-shirt. One of the two. Difficult to tell. A man in a tall tee.

One of the tallest tees I've ever seen got caught in a rudder. He capsized our boat. Oh, well, good for you. So you're a good Samaritan out there. Bless you. One of the best Samaritans you'll meet. Yeah, top five Samaritans. We've always said that about you. So you're a good Samaritan out there. Bless you. One of the best Samaritans you'll meet. Yeah. Top five Samaritans.

We've always said that about you. Wow. Right. New York Times, LA Times, the Cedar Rapids Tribune has all called me one of the top Samaritans of 2022. Top Samaritans 2020. Yeah, it is outdated, actually. You've done some things that have, they've had to issue retractions on a couple of those. But we're not talking about the retractions. We're talking about the articles themselves.

Blake, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, a couple of things we're talking about. We're talking about the Hague hearings concerning allegations of Israel's genocidal intent in Gaza that is being brought by South Africa. It's being brought. What do they know? What do they know about apartheid? Yeah, what do they know about apartheid or genocide? We're going to talk about just the state of like fake documents, fake images. There were like fake Epstein documents that came out in the batch that batch of documents that dropped last week

but i don't know it's just like confusing like the stuff that is fake is like in there with real stuff that like basically proves the same point and it's all driven somehow by aaron rogers being the stupidest guy who has ever convinced himself that he is smart. And then we're going to talk about that AI George Carlin set that is making the rounds that everyone's talking about. Yet another one of these things where people are like, AI is here, folks, and it's funny. Professional writers, time to be scared. And I'm not fully buying it.

We'll talk about why. All of that, plenty more. But first, before we get to any of it, Blake, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? Sir Chistory. So Sir Chistory was beheaded, I believe in 1651,

about for treason. And and so my for my search history is espresso i pronounce espresso expresso for some reason wow because you're a five-year-old because i'm a five oh what's what's espresso is what i'm working on. It's honestly financially ruining my family. But no, espresso temperature. Because I got an espresso machine and it didn't taste that hot or didn't feel that hot to the mouth.

To the untrained mouth. To the untrained mouth. To the mouth. The untrained mouth. Of course. But of course. But of course, an expert espresso connoisseur will know that this is actually very hot. It just doesn't seem that way.

Thank you. So I asked the search history by means of Google, and they said the proper espresso temperature is around 170 degrees fahrenheit and my machine was barely hitting 130 which is quite a discrepancy so i think i have to return disgrace i kept messing around i'm going a different disgrace disgusting and offensive and an intentional slight against my my now uh financially ruined family and i so yeah uh it's interesting where i generally don't have a high tolerance for hot you know where my wife can just drink any of the hottest coffee in the world like boiling water and be fine asbestos yeah yeah exactly and that's actually just what we've called her for years

irrespective of the... Yeah. Man, because when she gets to spitting that shit, it's toxic. Yeah. It is. Yeah. No, for sure. Yeah. And my mouth is also lined with insulation that has carcinogens in it.

But no. So yeah, apparently that's the proper temperature for espresso. 170. Keep it hot. Keep it hot. I've noticed that when I'm making drip coffee and I'm really eager to get it, I'm sitting

there watching it brew. I'm just like, get in my veins. When you pour it, it's actually not hot enough yet. It's below the... It needs a good five-minute sit on the little burner there in a lot of cases oh when you have like the little hot plate under yeah that it relies on that hot plate i thought

like the brew was gonna be hot enough but in my experience i don't yeah i don't have i don't drink it well yeah we use a chemex at the house so it's never it's never gonna be that hot although that's why you can put it like on a stovetop just to get like warm it up although i don't i'm not like such a yeah you know rigid coffee drinker where i'm like it has to be a like i'll drink that shit room temperature because i'm just here for the light bits of caffeine that barely do anything yeah chemex like that's how i'm picturing i don't know the chemex machine and i'm picturing like a push a t style setup of like how you're making coffee oh no it's you haven't seen a chem it's just like a hourglass shaped glass basically and you put a paper filter on top and you just it's a pour over

thing okay it looks like my physique if you're trying to picture what this if i was made of glass yeah it's what my body all of our physiques think all of our physiques. V-shaped torso, plumpers down low. Just thick ass. Yeah, exactly. With a little glass bead in the front. Is it specifically designed for that, or are you kind of MacGyvering that together? The chemics.

Designed for what? Making coffee? Making coffee, yeah. Yeah, it's for making coffee. All right. I just want to make sure it wasn't like something you just like science labs together. You're looking at a picture and you're like,

how are you going to make coffee with that? I'm looking at a picture in my mind's eye. It could look like an anonymous glassware situation. Like I understand it could look like it's, yeah. It's not clear that the filter goes up top. Now I'm looking at a picture. Yeah. It's not like I was saying like, yeah, man, I go,

I steal an Erlenmeyer flask from the local high school chemistry lab, and I use paper towels for the filter. Yeah. What, Blake, is something you think is overrated? Overrated great white sharks. And I've been on real sharks. I know, and they'll come for me, and I'm ready, because I've been on a shark. Look at his beady. Jack just lowered his brow.

He's in fucking attack mode right now. No, my eyes rolled over white. He just warped into a great white, and he's attacking someone right now. You've always had multiple rows of teeth that I found horribly off-putting, but now I didn't know your eyes could do that as well. Horrible dental procedures that didn't work out when I was a kid. It's not because

your heart demon fished. It's because your orthodontist was an absolute disaster. It's actually just one row of one tooth. But what if the teeth were bigger? Let's sharpen this gomper up. Oh, yeah. You're my greatest creation, Jack.

That's so gross to think about. But yeah, I think that the bull shark should receive more notoriety than the great white. Because it's a fucker of a shark where i was so i'm reading this book called close to shore which was about the these like jersey shore shark attacks in 1916 i think yeah and which i yeah way back in the day we remember it it was it was it's fuzzy but i do have a memory of it and it's what jaws is like partially based on yeah yeah exactly have you read it or do you know like or just i'm just familiar i know of it yeah yeah it's a good book and they so it's very shark centric i've been watching a lot of nat geo shark shows

and this this bull shark has more bite power than the great white smaller but still more bite force and then it can also this is what freaked me out is that it can go in fresh water comfortably so it can like you can be bathing in a river where you think you're out of the shark zone and look who fucking shows up for the party it's a bull shark so anyway i think this shark's a freak and some of the some of the attacks in that book, I hope I'm not spoiling anything for you, Blake. I'm assuming you're beyond the fifth page. I'm on page 61.

Some of the attacks in that book do happen in freshwater bodies, right? The shark starts moving up into streams and shit. Yeah, the bull shark, they think that the bull shark is responsible for a majority uh like a lot of the attacks that get attributed to great whites yes the bull shark is like secretly that bitch yeah yeah this is your favorite shark's favorite shark right here. Right. Yeah, this is the shark guy's shark. The bull shark is Cat Williams. The great white is Cedric the Entertainer. And the tiger shark is Steve Harvey.

The bull shark is Mark Curry. Yeah. Yeah. So is that what, like, Cat Williams came on and was accusing other people of uh because this this was something that hit the zeitgeist but that i didn't fully like follow up on but we might as well i mean we're like the know your meme i mean he said a lot in that i listened to every second of that interview yeah but he accused like a lot of popular comedians like kevin hart steve harvey cedric the entertain Entertainer of Tiffany Haddish even being like rip off artists, basically stealing jokes.

They some people had that rip off shit was mostly at Cedric and Steve Harvey, like where, you know, Cedric the Entertainer like ripped off a bit about black people riding a spaceship and like was doing a lot of the same mannerisms. Steve Harvey was taking shit from Mark Curry there's like yeah there's to the point where a lot of these videos like I've seen before like they were just kind of like these sort of like I saw them in like YouTube videos like yo I think this guy's stealing Mark Curry's material but yeah Cat Williams definitely just

was like hey check there's receipts you know what's wild to think about? it's great Joe Rogan the first time i started hearing about him on the internet like other than his fucking fear factor career i was like oh that's a fear factor guy was him accusing carlos mencia of stealing jokes and being like i'm the guy who tells it like it is and this guy is it your favorite comedian car Carlos Mencia is a joke thief. And I remember I had my hand over my mouth for three straight days. Yeah.

Not not. But you're like, but the mind of Mencia is so great. I thought they sprung fresh and whole whole cloth from the mind of Mencia. That was the promise of the show. I remember he's like, your name's Ned. Like, I remember it was like the big thing. He was like, okay. Ah, that's right.

That was wild. And also the insanity of if a comedian was on stage and then was yelling, hey, come up here with me in a like, you know, like an argumentative tone. In no way would i walk back onto stage to be like verbally degraded is that what he did he like yeah he called him up he like live fact-checked him at a stand-up show yeah he like just dressed him down uh yeah we'll probably get more into this maybe with the ai george carlin conversation

but right there is a certain amount of shit as a stand-up that is kind of baked into your career that you have to deal with i mean just like any other career we're dealing with a shitty boss or whatever but there is a certain thing of oh when you reach x amount of, people are going to lift, steal X amount of, whether it's actual, like a joke or your, some people call it an aura, you know, or like your persona or whatever.

So, um, but I think, yeah, Cowboy was like, well, this actually exceeded that percentage that, uh,

I'm comfortable with. And then, yeah, it's a wild interview. It's sick. Especially when it gets into like lifting full-on physicalities like of the joke and you're like sir that ain't that's not even close to parallel thinking like it's one thing when like an event happens and like everyone on

twitter is doing some version of the same joke or whatever but this was just like oh yeah you watched that special and you just thought because it was in the 90s people don't fucking remember that shit oh exactly he accused somebody of stealing like the whole physicality of a joke and it was there's one like yeah where cedric is doing this whole thing this whole bit about like black people were on the spaceship like driving it like an old cadillac like with music and shit and like cat williams are the exact like you know his original bit is like he's doing so much of the same shit it's wild that's wild but my favorite part of it what this is the most devastating part to me where he was you know he's again cat williams taking down these you know

comedic legends and then he goes earthquake never had a television show because he is illiterate he can't read the cue cards and then just move on. Oh my god. And then he praises Earthquake. He's the best comedian ever. He just didn't have that crossover. But I'm saying mean stuff and this is where we are.

He looks like shit and can't read. He's Dan Sandler. Jeez. Relax, cat. Fuck, man. I'm like fanning myself. It's like really well done takedown of all these people.

And this motherfucker tragically is illiterate. He can't read. Yeah. Anyway. Alright, let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll do an underrated. We'll get into the news. We'll do it all. We'll be right back. Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job?

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And we're back. That's my George H.W hw bush we'll be right back we'll be right i saw it i caught it you caught it all right i stole the aura of george hw bush for that uh throat commercial it's not it's not gonna cut through what is what's something that you think is underrated underrated i have cheese curds and okay i found that i would almost like a fried cheese curd more than a mozzarella stick and also i had poutine. I was up in Vermont doing shows over the weekend. And poutine is I think it also an incredibly underrated food. It can be I think, if done wrong, it could be probably one of the most visually even when done right. It's visually disgusting to look at, but it's absolutely delicious. So cheese curds, which I looked up

what type of cheese they were. apparently they're it's a baby cheddar which i don't know what constitutes a youth in a cheese but it is a baby uh little little young cheese cut down in its prime yeah it's just because it's how long it's been like aged right because like some shit's been in there for years and i think baby just means like it's not even been in there for like a month or two or something like that and in there meaning in the mama mozzarella's belly in the mama mozzarella's belly yeah yeah it will stay like a marsupial it's just all inside of that fleshy sack and comes out delicious after five or ten years or whatever the first of all, I respect, Blake, the way,

the degree to which you were not willing to fully commit. You're like, I would almost like a fried cheese curd more than a mozzarella stick. Like it was the most controversial thing ever uttered on the podcast. I'm going to leave a little bit of gray area here. It could be said that one might almost like a fried cheese curd more than... Not me.

One. Yeah, not me. And I'm speaking purely in hypotheticals here. No, absolutely. The squeakiness of the cheese curd, how does that sit with you? Is that part of the appeal? Is that just a weird byproduct? canceling headphones on playing the loudest music that you could possibly have,

which, which then mitigates a, if there even is a squeak, I'm not saying there is, I don't know if anyone has definitely said that there is, but if there is one that would therefore cancel out that sound, potentially, if so,

that's smart cheese carton. When you say squeaky, just because it's like kind of chewy. You ever chew on it and hear a little squeak. It's got a little squeak to it. I never had your teeth ever done that? Mine might still be alive when I'm eating them. That might be one of my problems.

Yeah. I think the last time I had poutine... I think I had poutine when we did that live show in Canada. When we were in Toronto. In Toronto? Oh, because I'm up here. I know it's quebec or whatever where the shit is real lift you know real fucking wild but also i think i just wasn't in the right mindset to be listening to my mouth

as i was eating i think i was like half watching you know 90 day fiance blasting out of a laptop or something yeah i think i've had cheese curd maybe unfried uncooked and that's where the squeakiness came from anyway i mean it's when you search it it says it's known for its squeaky texture yeah squeaky texture baby i've never eaten anything with a squeaky texture other than cheese curds and like balloons maybe yeah like not but like i guess yeah what i used to on flavored condoms like gum yeah yeah that was a sick move. Very squeaky. Well, because it was cool.

I was inspired by the Coneheads movie because then you can blow a big balloon out when you go. Yeah. Yeah. You ever seen people put a condom out a window and then see how big that fucker blows up to? Yeah, man. Lost my job at the car dealership because of that. I do this bit where I put a condom over my head, and then I blow through my nose,

and that condom expands. That's my bit that I do. Yeah, and that's wholly original. And the aura. I heard that Howie Mandel in the 1980s actually stole your aura on that one. Were people doing that on stage? Yeah, it was Howie Mandel's famous bit.

Oh, wow. Famous, I guess, might be a matter of perspective. But that is like it was his first big bit where he would put it over his head. Because I think he was, oh, I didn't understand the confusion. He was bald, so his head looked like a penis. Yes. was oh i didn't understand the confusion he was bald so his head looked like a penis yes like he put it over there i didn't realize yeah he also had like the album of his album he had an album comedy album called fits like a glove and he's wearing a full-on medical exam glove on his head

while blowing it up yeah so he was all about that latex before he was maybe it too yeah maybe it was always a glove. It was repurposed as a condom, so I wouldn't get, you know, because it's different enough where you can't get... And because you work blue, because, you know. Right. I'm disgusting. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, you're just trawling for jokes on the floor of the ocean. Yeah, I get it. I'm a truth teller. He's going to be like, it was a glove, find a new angle. It wasn't a con. It's not disgusting. And it was a glove find a new angle wasn't a con it's

not disgusting and it's a normal joke okay it's a normal bit of prop comedy find a new angle um all right little little sixers reference yeah people paying attention it's crazy that you just said that it's a joke this show is just mostly inside jokes at this point. It is. Alright, let's talk about the Hague. What does that fucking thing mean they keep saying all the time? Are they?

Sometimes, yeah. Luckily, we got a lot of people who have been listening since day one who are the holders of the canonical information of the show. So we appreciate y'all. Sorry to all our new listeners. Off to the Hague. are the holders of the canonical information of the show so we appreciate y'all sorry sorry to all our new listeners off to the hague oh you don't want you don't want inside jokes about the 76ers from like seven years ago fine we're going to the hague are you happy with this yeah

yeah so the hague hearings concerning allegations of israel's genocidal intent in gaza just began uh the case was brought by South Africa, who likened Israel's treatment of Palestinians to their own history of apartheid. And the case is, I mean, it's hugely important, obviously, if the court finds it even plausible that a genocide is being committed. They could order a range of legally binding measures, including a complete cessation of military activities. And I think I I don't know that I believe that Israel would be like, ah, damn, got us. I guess we're going to stop. But it is drawing a lot of attention to the shit that is being like they're just using Israel like like their evidence against israel is just israel like there's all these quotes yeah here are posts by soldiers and politicians proudly documenting

atrocities and then like a there's a filing that contains over four pages of public pronouncements of more than 14 officials, which are pretty hard to read as anything, but an incitement to genocide, you know? Well, yeah. Like what stuff like it's a fight against light and dark and like,

we will break their backbone and things like that. It's kind of like, Oh, well, I don't know if rhetorically that's the best, uh, route there, but I mean, here we are. It's just like the timeline I think is kind of like, oh, well, I don't know if rhetorically that's the best route there, but I mean, here we are.

It's just like the timeline, I think is the, like, wow, this is, I think obviously the real important thing here is that it's being brought on like an international stage because depending on where you live, it might not get as much coverage as it would be in other places. But this is now, you know, fully on the international stage for people to discuss. Now, I don't know to what length it will be discussed, but it also takes a very long time. Like given that, like a case that was brought against Myanmar about the crackdown on the Rohingya people, that's still in trial, like after what, almost five years.'s it's going to be a lengthy process for sure it is i just i think it's important for the mainstream media to be forced to cover some some of the stuff that i don't think they've done a great job of like covering to the degree that they would have if like these things were being said by palestinians you know

right but yeah like the backbone one so that that statement starts with it's an entire nation out there that is responsible it's not true this rhetoric about civilians not aware not involved it's absolutely not true we will fight until we break their back. Like that straight up. Like that's just them saying there are no innocent civilians. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So I don't know. It is ongoing.

Israel's response seems to be to claim that South Africa is functionally a wing of Hamas. And yeah. So that's the new that's the new attack on your haters is like, well, that's you're just being Hamas. So I'm not going to listen to what whatever is going on. Yeah. I mean, this is the outcomes here. I'm very curious about like what can happen, you know, because on one hand, it's like, well, what is binding? What can be like what actually can be done if this decision is reached? like what actually can be done if this decision is reached and it's not quite clear like what exactly could happen i mean at least like when you look at other like past examples but also when you think about how you know george bush was like we'll fucking invade the fucking hague if you try and like you know bring some of our people in on war crimes charges you're like okay well then there's got to be some something there that you don't like otherwise you wouldn't make it the policy to be like we'll fucking we'll fuck your shit up fight you in war how's that yeah we will fight

this court we'll fight this court's army which you know courts have armies i i think it's a weird thing to where hopefully the like pr for lack of a better word where i don't think it's a weird thing to where hopefully the PR, for lack of a better word, where I don't think it's necessarily resonating with enough people that like with the U.N., you know, like how the U.N. or how every other country in the world feels about, you know, what Israel is doing right now versus what the United States government's doing to either stop it and or like encourage it and i think it's not really sinking in where hopefully you hear the hey that's supposed to be a fairly like like a white knight or whatever like it's a fairly unassailable group where if that group is saying hey this is fucked up hopefully that allows some like more people to listen and can contextualize it in a way that you know going it alone where everybody else says this is an absolute nightmare and needs to be stopped immediately doesn't but i'm with you i don't know if it's like a sanction thing or what it can actually do but yeah yeah it's not enforceable necessarily but it is i think important in terms of the court of public opinion

right like where it is pretty clearly like the lines are pretty clearly drawn in most places in the world but in the u.s there's still this massive disparity of how things are covered right and what an ally to have what an ally israel has in the u.s when it comes to the hague saying shit they're like dude that's just like their opinion man like they they say shit about us all the fucking time you know what i mean in one ear out the other okay it's all about this empire so i think that's what yeah that's what's also a little for me i'm like damn because this this is a country that is not wanting to hear anything about what an international court of justice would have to say about this government's

actions so it's yeah it'll break through everywhere else but over here we definitely we keep the blinders on to try and stay focused on like hey we're number one just they're the rest are fucking they're just hating usa usa we're number one we're number one uh israel in addition to you know saying south africa is functionally a wing of hamas claims that uh their statements to this point have erased all the hard work that they put in focused on distinguishing innocent civilians from enemy combatants, which like, oh, that would be amazing. Like, if they

just like came with all this evidence tomorrow they were like, psych, guys, we're not like, we haven't harmed a single like, we're making sure we don't harm any innocent people. I would love to see that. That would be great news, i i just have not seen that it looks like everything is to the contrary it's to be direct opposite yeah the

other thing is that like because this kind of ties into the next story but like because the information that we get is like so just choked with bullshit at this point like it's i think serving a purpose for them to be bringing like some of these statements into an actual court and be like these were said like that we have evidence that these were said because so much of the arguments that i've seen on both sides has been like well this is you know that these are this is fake fake news this is propaganda and there's been a shitload of propaganda and fake news so i think it's also important for delineating that but i don't know there there was a story about like the fake epstein documents that came out that were like, one of

them was, so the AP does this thing every week where they're like, not the news, like what didn't happen this week, essentially. And it's like focusing on the lies that got spread around on social media. And one of them was like, for instance, there was a lie that Stephen Hawking's and Jimmy Kimmel were included in the Epstein document dumps but then like so i was like oh i i had fully thought that stephen hawkins like was mentioned in those documents and like he was so he was they were just debunking like one specific thing that was said but it's just like so and like there's all there's fake pictures of trump with epstein and clinton with epstein that are being debunked but it's like yeah but there are pictures of them with

him like that you know so there's right right and then the kid and then kimmel gets thrown in there and kimmel wasn't mentioned at all by anyone except for fucking aaron rogers who is was mad at him for making jokes about aaron rogers yeah did you see kimball's monologue that he did recently and just fucking took the time to like watch me just i'm gonna just cook your ass right now no i didn't see it oh yeah he just yeah he's he he devoted a good uh bit of his monologue to just just coming for that dude no i mean but the epstein docs like to your point is like there's already a bit of his monologue to just just coming for that dude no i mean but the epstein docs like to your point is like there's already a bit of confirmation bias there that people are experiencing with like people like well we know powerful and influential people were like in orbit of jeffrey

epstein it's like but who is it or whatever and all it takes is just a couple things to be like yeah yeah okay i believe that i believe that i believe that rather than having to actually go through the process of like who is actually named and what the details are of that because like what were the actual what were the details of stephen hawking so stephen hawking was included in the documents because there were allegations that he was like at an orgy and got it epstein had like so that but that wasn't what was in the documents that was in the documents was Epstein emailing somebody being like, I want to put together a reward for anyone who can prove that he wasn't at this orgy that he was allegedly at in relation to allegations being made by the victim. And then he was at a big conference that was put on at, think the island with like other scientists with other

scientists right right so he's like in the mix having been around epstein so are a lot of scientists so the story that was getting spread around that was false like it it hadn't made it to me but like it's i think like one of the pieces of media literacy that we're going to need to work on is like was this written by a dumb person like was this made up what is it because like the the alleged thing is like stephen hawking's would like have sexual sexual encounters with like slur for small person and then like he would like write equations on a board that like they couldn't reach and like that got him off and it's like it's like oh okay so a board that like they couldn't reach and like that got him off and it's like it's like oh okay i'm like steven hawking the man in the chair he was using

the chalkboard right for real it's like anytime that it is like based on the premise that little people are are hilarious it's like oh no this is just written by a dumb person. Right. Yeah. That's so, I don't know. It's I, but I truly like, I don't know how to answer the question of like media literacy in an age where it's, there's just going to be so much flooding of the zone with bullshit.

Well, I think for, cause we're all used to at least like people our age and older, like we were brought up on, well, it was on TV. Yeah. And that was kind of like it, like that shit was like the God's gospel truth was like, well, this shit was on TV. Like, and so, and then we're like, oh, okay. So there's such thing as bullshit there.

And now it's like, well, it was on this website. Um, and now it's like, well, now there's pictures. website. Um, and now it's like, well, now there's pictures and now we're starting to, we have to figure out too, that dude, the way these generative AI tools are getting the pictures can, will pass the fucking eye test pretty quickly if you're not being discerning enough. Um, which is why like a picture of Trump on a jet with Epstein with a bunch of young women in it, like it just connects a bunch of dots of allegations. You're like, Oh, that, that picture has to be real. Right. When in fact it wasn't.

And it's interesting too, because I think like Mark Ruffalo shared some of those and he was like, Oh my bad. I didn't realize these were fake, but it's like the fact remains, there's still plenty of pictures of Donald Trump with Jeffrey Epstein that are not. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And so that's when you're in this weird space where you're like, well, I know there's pay like that's not contested. So it's easy for these other things to kind of to set in and yeah i don't know if like yeah we just have to wait for like the like bureau of you know propaganda

analysis or whatever having like the ap or the reuters types doing these sort of corrections to to sort of like wait before doing these things. But yeah, it's, I don't, I don't know. I honestly don't know what to say because like I've been, I,

the things I've seen with that mid journey does, I'm even like, Oh shit. Okay. Ooh. Yeah. I might've been fooled by that. Yeah.

I feel like we need like a government funded full time, like bullshit debunking agency. Like truly like what, like it seems like a silly idea because like what you know you can't trust the guy but like honestly you just first of all so many out of work journalists like let so this is a great way to use them and like that's honestly what we're gonna need at a certain point not that like everybody's going to trust it but like something big needs to happen to address like how just awash the universe is going to be in bullshit for the foreseeable future until like something something is done it's going to be a complete mess it's been as soon as you could because of that trump was even like we need more laws around ai wow got his attention yeah yeah

it's like but bro like there's a lot that is but it's also given him a very convenient way to now fucking spin shit for his supporters too like now people like, yeah, yeah. These pictures that existed from probably 30 years ago. Like, creating AI images of Trump and Clinton with Epstein is, like, that's doing them a favor because it's, like, making the whole thing, like, seem suspicious

that is true about them. He is on wax, like, being like, Jeff is a great guy, a good friend of mine, and it said he likes beautiful women, some of them very young, maybe even more than I do. It's like, Jeff is a great guy, a good friend of mine. And it said he likes beautiful women, some of them very young, maybe even more than I do. It's like, yo, what? Easy, easy.

That's, and then, you know, the main victim in this case is somebody who was recruited from Mar-a-Lago. So there's plenty there. It's just like some of the images are fake, but now it's, There's plenty there. It's just like some of the images are fake, but now it's really confusing. Fortunately, I think we can all just take a break from it all, sit back and watch some good old-fashioned AI stand-up specials from long-dead comedians. So we're going to take a quick break and we'll come back,

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that was recently released called George Carlin, I'm Glad I'm Dead, which a computer simulation of George Carlin riffs on contemporary topics such as mass shooting, social media, Elon Musk. It is a good impression of George Carlin is what it sounds like you're listening to. The jokes are better than I thought AI was capable of. They're not good. I thought AI was capable of. They're not good. They're just, like, instead of being a C- impression of, like, what George Carlin would write,

they're, like, a C+, like, an undergraduate. Like, if you, like, taught a course on, like, how to write like George Carlin, this would be, like, a C- undergraduate version of that, which seems, like, to me to be about where AI has consistently been. Also, like it's not clear to me. Like so the the AI itself is called Dudezy. It's in a podcast with a couple of comedians and like people think it might actually just be a hoax.

And like they're actually. Yeah, it's like Will Sasso, I think. Yeah. One of the guys in Dude C. Yeah. Yeah. And they... Will Sasso from Mad TV.

He was very big on Vine, I think. And it's just like... It seems like a bit. They are committed to the bit and they're like, no, it's not a bit. We were given access to this amazing ai and it like runs our show for us and like tells us what to say and all this stuff but it just seems like it's a podcast featuring a couple guys like working with comedy prompts

that they wrote or you know somebody submitted them. But it is also like a, because this is something just like anyone, any business where everyone's afraid, whether you understand AI really well, or you have like a very loose grasp and you just hear snippets and you're like, they're going to come and take us over in robot form. Like there is, it's neither extreme,

but like when you said that it's a C plus for if it is AI, that's really good for how early days we are in terms of gener 75 quicker and then to hit like a b plus is going to be quicker than that in terms of time so it is a scary or it isn't there it's not even close to being there but you will see jokes where if you enter whatever like enter comedian here joke it'll be like oh this comedian likes to complain about things so it'll be a complaining joke, which is not that advanced, but it is getting better. So it's, I don't know, I hope we're starting to create laws on what,

you know, there's certain cases pending now where I think the New York Times filed a case where they were allowing OpenAI to scrape their, or OpenAI was like scraping their articles to kind of train it

to write new articles and yeah and yeah i'm probably butchering that a little bit but like i i hope that the there now are going to start to be some sort of regulation in terms of fuck like we need to like yeah anyway this is the one thing that touches me really closely so i was like we need hopefully this is we can read the breadcrumbs here and you know put some sort of regulation well you guys should tune in because i did all i i i guess this is now is the time to say it but jack and i have trained in ai to do your material and we're going to be dropping the the uh the blade 45 specials that's over 45 days yeah so you guys can go into dead as well that's excellent so yeah i'm glad but even with this george carlin thing like it's still contentious to me because i was listening

to it and i'm like i get that right now you can definitely create voice models right that you can get the shit sounding a certain way i'm still dubious as to whether or not the joke writing is gonna fully capture that because we don't even know how the fuck they really did this like i think they wrote this i think this was like writ like somebody entered the prompt into into an ai like speech model and then they used the rough draft that they got back to like punch it up and yeah or they just fucking were like dude like let's just let's just like we love comedy we love carlin like as a fun exercise let's just write these Carlin style jokes and then we can put it through the voice thing just to write just to read the shit that we as humans wrote and then just see what fucking comes out. And then maybe we have something there. Yeah.

But yeah, that's why like that's why everything with AI is so fucking sketchy, especially when people are like, this shit's powered by AI. I'm like, OK, how, motherfucker? Because even with dudes, they're like, the whole show's based on AI. It's created by AI. It's all AI. Fucking. But what does that mean? And they haven't really revealed to what extent any of that means or what the real methodology is.

So I feel like it's a really easy place to be snake oily right now and have people look whoa exactly i think that's exactly right it's just a way to do something and and then get everybody to pay attention to it and throw money at you like so having somebody write a decent like c plus like if it like if I told you I had done this, I had written this George Carlin thing, like that, you would, first of all, you'd be like, why did you spend your time doing that? You have a family. You have better things to do.

And like, you'd be like mildly embarrassed for me because like the jokes aren't like that good. They're like, you just be, you know? We're texting each other, Blake, man, did Jack make you listen to that? Did Jack make you listen to that Carlin thing? I told him it was good. Oh, you did? You fucker.

I told you it was a good show. I just went, wow, with no explanation points or anything. Just wow. You know he's working on a Richard Pryor one. I know. It's the worst. I told him, do not. I don't care.

Even if you tell people it's ai just do not go there he's taking some liberties with it that i don't even want to discuss like go ahead the double standard between like what we would give a you know mid-tier podcast host versus like ai you know we're like for a mid-tier podcast we're like that well okay man like congratulations and for ai we're like whoa that's fucking crazy yeah so that's interesting i i think too like i think you know it makes sense where you said i didn't think about this where it probably is more of the the voice model doing all of the leg work in terms of anything impressive here more than obviously like the writing is so that does make a lot of sense

and you know people write for people like uh adam sandler has writers for his stand-up you know so you can master a someone someone's voice very well which you know yeah they made that documentary about it yeah funny people yeah yes exactly it was a great documentary i didn't think it was long enough yeah it's just a little short yeah they could yeah hit five or six hours but um i did really enjoy that but yeah it's so i think that's that is a really good point i I think contextualizing it where it's like, oh, humans did this. Well, this is shit. Oh, this model did it. Oh, my God.

That's incredible. But I think it's just because of where we're at right now at this point in time. But that can evolve fairly quickly. Like there are other efforts to get AI to write comedy. And it's not been impressive. I don't know. I mean, like you i guess it's a matter of taste uh so people were using ai to write these jokes and uh they said so one of the jokes they got back was why did the man put his money in the blender he wanted to make time fly which is because time is money time is money logic jump yeah and

but blenders don't make things fly regardless so it doesn't i'm writing this down i mean inside the blender can i steal from ai is that okay i don't want ai to steal from me but can i steal that i mean that's the point is we're supposed to be able to use it as a tool and that joke is fucking awesome so yes your stupid audience doesn't get it but mine do they're gonna love i like how it's gonna be like i don't know if you have you ever seen like like the freestyle rap battles that are really big on the like on youtube and shit that are like all acapella like just two dudes in a crowd just like spitting bars back and forth like sometimes the rhymes are so complex even the rappers like hold. Let me run that back for you one more time.

I said, it's all about the violence. And I will hit him in that accordion. The accord he in also accordion and instrument. Violence also meant violence. Like that. Why did the man put his money, time, in the blender? Time is money. And it's like, okay, but that's, I don't think they're that complex.

That was the best one, by the way. That was the one they're like, and you know, they actually kind of hit a good one here. So just FYI. Yeah. That's where we're at. I mean, I think, again, this is another thing with media literacy or just our ability to be a little bit more skeptical about ai when people come waving that shit in your face like being like okay well what did it do exactly or or is this just all people who are really good at prompting the ai that got these jokes or did you what what how did you generate

this because again we are just already so blown away that this, like the voices of people that are no longer here physically on earth, like are able to be replicated in a way that's semi believable. That's really the big thing. At that point, we're like, oh shit, that shit sounds like Biggie. Oh, it sounds like George Carlin or whatever. But then when you look at like what the jokes are, it's like, it almost doesn't matter what it's saying because most people are just so amazed at the fact that the voice is there yeah like if it were text you're like look at this text thing of all these george carlin jokes people be like man get this shit out my face i don't give a fuck but it's the fact that you can marry that with the voice that like it creates like this whole flea circus effect you know to borrow a reference from jurassic park

you know that has people like oh my god the bar is so low yeah it's like a parlor trick yeah at this point i also feel like on the internet we're having to get used to the reality that there's more bad comedy like there's more unfunny people trying to be funny than at any time ever before and so like just the our like global shared consciousness is like just half just hacky bullshit and so it i think it like fucks with our sanity a little bit in some ways because it's like i don't know like the person whose jokes i'm hearing at least as much as like any funny comedian is like Elon Musk's attempts at humor. You know, that shit is like making news and and then his acolytes. And it's it's just a weird time, a difficult time for our sanity, I think.

And there's no barrier of entry either now none in order to so if you have a camera if you have a phone you know you can post a video of you doing it yeah and then to your point like whatever catches on like algorithmically it probably won't be just mathematically speaking there's only so many funny people in the world and it's like oh this is not good but then that becomes where the bar is and then someone sees this online and or on tiktok and they're like wait this is what people find funny two million views i can do this and they're not even as talented as the fucking idiot with the two million views a piece of shit video so it just like keep it's a virus it's a horrific virus. And also the model at which we even produce things is completely backwards. And Roy Wood Jr., I think he was with Variety or something.

He was doing this like sort of roundtable discussion. And he asked a very important question about saying like, you know, what's more important, the talent or the audience? Because it used to be a network. This is what I'm just sort of paraphrasing what he said, but it used to be like a network would find a talent and say, you know what? I like you have an amazing talent. Let's work together to find your audience and expand that together and make something of this. Whereas now it seems to be, well, what is this person's audience? Do they have a 2 million person audience? Oh, they do? Well, then I don't give a fuck what the talent

part is because they already have a 2 million person audience? Right. Oh, they do. Well, then I don't give a fuck what the talent part is because they already have a 2 million person audience that we could potentially tap into. And then his broader question was more about, he's like, well, then what do I need a network for? If you're only looking for people that have built in audiences, what happened to the part of like actually cultivating some kind of talent and turning it into something? But yeah, but now you for money. Yeah, but exactly.

Now it's just more like, yeah, it's like, well,, well, how many views do you have on X platform or whatever? That being the guiding principle, it's only going to elevate more and more of these people that are not necessarily the most talented and have a talent to a certain extent. But what does that say of people who aren't as literate or savvy with using social media or the internet to get their shit out there? And we're just leaving that behind in the name of easy views or whatever yeah but i feel like uh you know our writer jam was saying that like some people in the ai world think that comedy may end up being the true measure of machine intelligence like if they can finally eventually write jokes like it's the thing that still evades them like one of the

tests they did was try trying to get the ai to match cartoons with their captions and it was able to do it 62 of the time which like people who we are dumb can do it 94 of of the time. So it's like it just doesn't, like there's too much happening below the surface in making sense of comedy for it to compute at this stage of AI's development. So, you know, maybe like we're coming down to meet it a little bit. It's coming up to meet us.

I feel like, yeah, we should just start grifting AI companies. Like as people who know comedy, you know, obviously we know everything about comedy, but like to actually be like, no, you guys, let me see how, no, no, no. That's you guys aren't connected with the fucking kernel of truth. You're just making the fucking joke. And people are like, dude, this guy, like if you could just get it to improve by a couple percent, they'd be like, dude, give this guy fucking $9 million. But I think that's what happened here.

it to improve by a couple percent they'd be like dude give this guy fucking nine million dollars but i think that's what happened here i think that like because the other like premise of this idea like if you're just going to be like they typed george carlin stand-up special into ai and it spit out this like the premise of that is that the guy from Mad TV is on the vanguard of machine learning. Right. What are the chances of that? He has access to the greatest AI in existence currently, which feels unlikely to me. That would be so funny. That just sounds like a comedy film, too.

Where these dudes just actually have got to the God-level intelligence just because they a comedy film too. Or like these, these dudes just like actually have got like to the God level intelligence. It's because they're so into comedy and now all the governments of the world, they're the most sought after fucking people. Right. Yeah. Uh, we shall see. It does involve like a human understanding to do not,

not to, you know, glorify the one thing I do well, but like you do need to, a joke it's it's part empathy and like human observation and then you add in whatever the mathematical formula is if it's a like a punchline a misdirect you know or like a mister like whatever it is so you know it does seem difficult for some of the best jokes are subtle inherent understandings that we have as people and have in common and you just happen to point that out where you know i heard this like where it's like

oh like you know the uncle at the barbecue and the way he holds his spatula or whatever that joke would be and it's like oh my god i do know that guy right that's completely based on human experience exclusively where there's no formula really there. It's an observation that artificial intelligence couldn't possibly make. Right. But then can it actually learn what the formula behind that observation looks like? Or could it sift through Twitter long enough to make that connection? I just tried using the chat GPT function

and being AI, whatever that I have access to. And I said, please write a joke in the voice of George Carlin about COVID lockdown measures. And it started doing it. It says, you know what I love about COVID? The lockdowns. Locking everything

down. The safety. Keeping people healthy. It's like what it started doing. And then it just completely like stopped itself. And then it was like, I can't show anything. And I was like, what the fuck? So I prompted it again. And then it just said, I'm sorry, but I can't write jokes in the voice of other people.

That would be plagiarism and disrespectful to their original work. I hope you understand. I was like, but you just went down that road. Yeah. But it's also, it suggests that they realize they tried and we're like this fucking sucks um in the middle of it i actually have on it i actually have some morals uh morally like i can't do this stand-up bit uh i actually have some fucking hilarious fire material that would burn down your computer. But yeah, unfortunately, ethics, ethics laws.

Sorry, but they, you know, woke police won't let me. Okay, I'm asking to do Chris Rock right now. And I'm seeing if I can get it. It says, okay, let me try that. It's like generating something right now. I don't read. You know what I hate about this COVID lockdown? It's not the mask.

It's not the social distancing. It's not the vaccine. It's the fact that I've spent all day with my kids. Yeah, I said it. I love my kids, but I don't like them. They're annoying. They're loud. They're messy. They're stupid. They ask me questions I don't know answers to, like, Daddy, why is the sky blue? Daddy, what's the meaning of life? Or, Daddy, who's that lady you were with last night? I don't know, kid. Ask your mother. This actually keeps going. And don't get me started on homeschooling. Homeschooling is a joke. Okay, keeps going and don't get me started on homeschooling homeschooling is a joke okay interesting i wonder if george carlin got flagged or something yeah because it's giving or they're just saying

like yeah still from black artists okay we're good we're good i don't know i don't know if racism or the news but yeah that's also not great i have this i'm doing this like free trial right now of this like advanced generative ai model and i typed in daily zeitgeist script and it just says i have diarrhea i'm dumb i have big diarrhea i'm so tired two kids i have diarrhea i'm so dumb i have a kid i'm dumb wow parenthetical long fart noise yeah i was making the noise it said parenthetic I was making the noises but it said parenthetical fart noises you're not going to read the direction

because you're a constant performer now I'm a little scared because that is actually like a completely accurate depiction of wait do they have access to all the stuff Justin edits out of the show because that's all the farts no there's no way Jack.

We like the 20. I did up top. Just saying I have diarrhea. Um, I, this says it does. I don't know. If Justin is secretly training an AI with all the farts that you make on Mike that we have to cut out.

Maybe, maybe Blake. What a pleasure. Likewise. Where can people find you? Follow you. All that good stuff. People can find me, uh, at Blake Waxler on all social media in Philadelphia, February 3 at helium comedy club.

I'm doing a show. It's not stand up. It's a tradition. It's a like a talk show on reviews. And it's we laugh about leaving reviews. I have my guests read reviews that they've left because I think it shows a part of your personality that you generally either don't want out there. It's a really, really, really fun show and it's at the most reasonable time of 4.30pm.

It's a matinee. It's a Saturday, February 3rd. It's going to be a great show. And yeah, BlakeWexler.com. At least it's a Saturday. It was like Tuesday at 4.30pm. It's like, it is a saturday it's like i need you to get off work i need you to leave work a little bit early a half an hour early and or just take off and then on my stand-up special blake wexler daddy long legs is still streaming on youtube amazing is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Yes, there is. So I spent my day watching and rewinding 10,000 times a Stephen A. Smith diatribe against Jason Whitlock.

Now, these are two of the biggest figures in sports and sports media. And have you have either of you watched this yet? I saw the part where Jason Whitlock was coming for. I think I saw like a condensed version. where jason whitlock was coming for steve i think i saw like a condensed version and then steven smith just absolutely coming for him he i've never seen anything like it in media generally media members don't talk shit on him on one another where jason whitlock is a very flawed human being who was very high up at espn for a while very euphemistic description a horrific yeah he's and or as stephen a smith would call him a piece of shit the worst he uh stephen a smith said he's a fat bastard who is uh worse than white supremacist stephen a smith so

guys i'm telling you you believe it's it's unreal it's wild it's wild too like how other people throughout the day after the Jason like thing, like when Stephen A was starting to go like, hey, Stephen, come on, you don't have to do that. You don't have to do that. Hey, come on, children. He was just you could be like, he was like, he's like, I cracked my knee that season. That's why I didn't play basketball. You're like, oh, boy, this is all over the place. It's wild. Yeah. So anyway, there's also like the journalism dynamic is also interesting if you're not into sports. But if it's it's I cannot recommend it higher to you, too. He I think he put it out today or late last night. So, yeah, Stephen A. Smith versus Jason Whitlock. It's on YouTube, probably. Whoever wins, we all lose. Yeah. Miles, where can people find you?

What's the work of media you've been enjoying uh before i tell you just so you know i i also asked the bing chat to do richard prior and it started giving me a lot it gave me a lot of material before it cut itself off and then when i did okay then i asked it to do dane cook and it said i'm sorry miles i cannot do that right now i'm sorry it's i'm just like ab testing black and white comics and just seeing how much the bing chat will give me like and what at what point it feels it's i don't know again we know it's a position anyway so where can you find me at miles of gray twitter instagram find jack and i'm a basketball podcast and also find me on 420 Day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra A tweet I like is from Kat Abu at Abu Ghazaleh

Kat tweeted, country music by men I love my tractor and beer and my pretty little lady Country music by women I'm about to commit a crime and it's probably murdering my husband Yep, about right murdering my husband. Yep. All right. All right.

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It's called Set It Off. It's just got like just workout energy. I haven't. I'm thinking about lifting a weight later. So I think I'm going to play this when I do that. And's called set it off by kids one way it's got like it's got one of those big big beats you know you like when you when you're going absolute demon mode in your garage on your assistant oh yeah when you go in demon mode on your interns that is what elon musk claims he would go when he just was like,

started being mean to everybody who worked for him. Abusive. Yeah. Yeah. It's called a demon. Dude, shit's called demon mode. That's what he would call demon mode. Cool, dude.

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