The Daily Zeitgeist - NASA’s Asteroid Plan Is BORING, No Mo’ Cuomo 12.02.21

Episode Date: December 2, 2021

In episode 1041, Jack and Miles are joined by Life As A Gringo's DJ Dramos to discuss CUOMO OUT V2, Republicans Positioning Selves As … Pro Covid Party? Going to Shut Government Down Over Vaccines A...nd Testing, NASA’s Killer Asteroid Plan Isn’t Like ‘Armageddon' at All and more! CUOMO OUT V2 Republicans Positioning Selves As … Pro Covid Party? Going to Shut Government Down Over Vaccines And Testing Trump tested positive for Covid few days before Biden debate, chief of staff says in new bookNASA’s Killer Asteroid Plan Isn’t Like ‘Armageddon' at All NASA is supposed to spot 90% of dangerous asteroids by 2020. It's at 10% How NASA will practice saving the world from an asteroid apocalypse Max Q: Get in loser, we’re smashing a spacecraft into an asteroid Michael Bay Says ‘Armageddon’ Predicted NASA Mission to Crash Into an Asteroid: ‘Our Plan Was Not Far Off’ LISTEN: Idol Eyes by Common Saints Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:56 or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
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Starting point is 00:01:40 People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 213, Episode 4 of The Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. by Diet Coke. international or national it's december 2nd so you know it's national special education day national mutt day and national fritters day fritters yeah shout out to fritters actually i like that are fritters like fried bread things yeah like little kind of like dough or yeah just
Starting point is 00:02:41 filled dough but you fry it up why would you ever call something fried dough when you could call it fritters which is yeah one of the great words in the ancient Romans consumed the first fritters the fritter yeah all right well uh shout out to fritters shout out to uh special education especially all right I am Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Luigi, a.k.a. Mario. These are all things that people called me while I had a mustache, a.k.a. an almond brother, a.k.a. the dad from Inside Out, a.k.a. Alfred Molina and Boogie Nights firecracker scene. But I think that one was because more because of the bathrobe I was wearing throughout November. And me throwing the firecrackers around.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Yeah, but shout out to everybody who, you know, helped me get through my mustachioed month. I'm clean shaven now. I did bury my mustache in the backyard last night. So RIP to a real one. Well, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! I don't want a lot for Christmas. We's the only thing I need.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Don't care much about the presents, so let's roll up that Christmas tree. I just want a blunt to the dome More than you could ever know Are these turkeys true? All I want for Christmas Is Gorilla Glue Ding, ding, ding, ding
Starting point is 00:04:22 All right, shout out to La Caroni for that wonderful I Want for Christmas weed-themed mashup. That's true. I just want a blunt to the dome. Simple times, you know. Some of that Gorilla Glue. I like that. We saw the sales numbers go down for Black Friday. You know, people are making it simple.
Starting point is 00:04:39 So that's all I want. It's a green Friday. More like. Am I right? Hey. Wow. He just came Friday. More like. Am I right? Hey. Wow. He just came through. You know.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat. Yes. For the first time on mic. But, you know, long time member of the family, a very talented audio producer and podcast host who you know from The Breakfast Club and his podcast, Life is a Gringo. Please welcome the once producer, always friend of this podcast, the brilliant and talented DJ Dramos! Dramos!
Starting point is 00:05:11 Hey! What's up, man? Man, it's good to see you guys. I am happy that I'm still a part of the DZ family. You know, that was my fear when asking to move on to other things. You know, so I'm glad that we're out here, man. Nice to see you guys. Oh, you sure about that, Dramos?
Starting point is 00:05:30 You trying to do other things? Just so you know, once you leave, we will no longer be friends with you. Right. Is it sad that we work in like an industry where that's kind of the norm? Where it's like, oh, you want to move up in the world? Go fuck yourself. Yeah. Well, I think yeah as someone who's worked in radio i definitely know that i know that energy very well right and that's why i think i like podcasting the stakes are everyone's so much more relaxed in podcasting versus my time like competitive
Starting point is 00:05:59 like competitive digital media or radio well such i don't really i don't know how it is on first rate podcasts though maybe they're more like cut rate you know or cut yeah not cut rate we're cut rate maybe they're more cut throat cut throat right about you know but we're uh you know we get it yeah we were like wait why is this dude working for us in the first place like that was the that was the quite secret meeting we had behind your back when you first started. We were like, wait, what's going on? Give me too much credit. Has he heard our show?
Starting point is 00:06:35 Man, okay. I like this. He honors us. What's good, man? You're coming to us from the East Coast. Everything good over there? You feeling that winter weather? I'm feeling the winter weather. bugs over here are apparently uh feeling the winter weather because they're trying to get inside of my house apparently it's like a thing i don't know yeah like the stink bugs dude like i'm telling you like legions and legions of them trying to find every crevice they
Starting point is 00:07:00 can to get in the house so it's been like constant battle of killing these bugs and trying to figure out where the hell they're coming in from. And do stink bugs actually smell bad or is that just a mean nickname we gave them to try and get them to leave us alone? I think it's a mean nickname that Pete is probably going to come
Starting point is 00:07:15 and try, you know, correcting us for at one point. But I've killed a few and I haven't smelled anything. I was wondering the same thing. I was always like concerned about killing them in the house and if it was going to stink up the place.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Either that or my place just smells and I can't tell the difference. That's a good possibility. It kind of stinks in here, Dramos. No, it's all these fucking stink bugs trying to get in here. It's some kind of shelter or some shit. I shouldn't have used that. I actually should have
Starting point is 00:07:42 kept it. Yeah, they smell real bad. Real terrible, moldy type of smell to them. Yeah, they smell real bad. Real terrible, real moldy type of smell to them. Yeah, they smell like somebody's been working out in the same gym clothes and hasn't washed them for three months. Probably. I think it smells like, I don't know. Ignore that pile of clothes in the corner. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:57 A lot of stink bugs hang out on my dirty lawn. Just that's why it smells like that. Yeah. Are you a Yankee fan? Yes. Okay, I was just curious because we said you know like you know you you come you know when we said you when you're that gang once you're always that gang is that is that just a a sentiment like every sports team has because like arsenal they'll say
Starting point is 00:08:16 once a gunner always a gunner a lot like a lot of lakers will say yo once you're a laker you're always a laker is do yankee fans say some shit like that? Or do they say, hey, thanks for that chip. Now fuck off. No, I think Yankee fans, you have to be a Yankee fan for life, especially because we have another team in the same city. So it's kind of like you pick a side. But what about the players, though? I mean, I definitely said I don't fuck with certain players anymore
Starting point is 00:08:43 because they left the Yankees. I'm going to admit I'm like, I don't fuck with certain players anymore because they left the Yankees. You know what I mean? I'm going to admit, I'm guilty. I'm guilty of that. Even if it wasn't, like, their choice, I'm still like, nah, man, fuck that guy. You know? But you know what? I mean, the greats that have helped out, you got to kind of give it up to them and still, you know, celebrate them.
Starting point is 00:09:01 But, yeah, no, definitely, I mean, it's pretty cutthroat. As long as they don't go to Boston. I guess I should say if they go to Boston afterwards, then it's a problem. What if you come from Boston? Right. Like Johnny Damon. Yeah. I mean, to me, that's also like, you know, when I'm a Buccaneers fan, too. So when Tom Brady came over, I hated Tom Brady on the Patriots.
Starting point is 00:09:16 But now it's like, you know what? I kind of fuck with this guy. I see what the fuss is about. So, yeah, I think Johnny Damon, once he cut his hair and became a real Yankee and all that and the beard and all that stuff, you know, I was okay with it.
Starting point is 00:09:29 So yeah. I was a Sox fan at that time and that was the Sox are not the Sox fans are in no way trying to be people who are like, yeah, you know, once
Starting point is 00:09:41 a Sox fan, once a Red Sox fan, always a Red Sox. They're just like, fuck that, dude. Yeah. Yeah. It's very aggressive up there in Boston. All right, Dramos,
Starting point is 00:09:52 we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, a couple of things we're talking about. We're going to talk about Chris Cuomo being out at CNN, or at least on a suspension. Doesn't look... Indefinitely. Indefinite suspension. Take a breather. So we're going to talk about what all was revealed in these most recent documents that got his ass kicked to the curb. We're going to talk about whether the Republicans are just
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Starting point is 00:10:58 All of that. Plenty more. But first, Dramos, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? Man, for my search history man uh for my search history it's not anything interesting dog grooming near me has been uh a constant search for my searches and i have a new puppy at home so uh yeah get his nails are literally like the fucking sharpest the sharpest thing i've ever seen on an animal my entire life and it's just caused a lot of chaos in my my
Starting point is 00:11:25 life with the people around me not wanting to be around the dog anymore so uh we got to get them clipped what kind of dog do you are you should have a dog wolverine i have a tiger and they just told me yeah whoa your dog is buck 50 to me across my stomach dude but like i've i've had puppies before i've had dogs in the past, and I've never, like, experienced a dog with, like, just talons like this. He's a mix of a Labrador and a Bulldog, and he literally,
Starting point is 00:11:54 like, will make you bleed if he just jumps on you and, like, happens to catch your arm, so it's become a thing. Oh, shit. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So you're looking to lean into that. You're looking for the right groomer to sharpen those motherfuckers up right and like well also i'm looking to really make him a guard dog that nobody will actually want to come to my house anymore but yeah it somehow like you know
Starting point is 00:12:17 everybody's just really booked and busy right now like the i want like the mobile dog groomer to come to me and they're like yeah we're not're not taking any more clients. I'm like, man, people are out here like caking in the dog grooming business. And it also has me think to myself, I should just like buy a truck and get into this. If that's what it's like that you're turning down new business at this point. Yeah. Wait, you're saying people are treating it like some elite preschool and they're like, yeah, we're just unable to take any more applicants. I just need my dog's toenails cut off. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:46 And that's what I felt insulted because she was like, oh, are you a returning customer? I was like, no, a new customer. She's like, oh, I'm sorry. No more new customers here. And I was like, oh, okay. Okay. So, yeah, that's how I know. You definitely knew because you just thought you could just call in here and get hooked up.
Starting point is 00:13:02 I do remember that from from getting our dogs groomed when we first moved out to LA. Them being like, all right, well, we just need to have them come through for an interview, and then we'll see what they're like. If the energy is aligned, then yeah, we'll set up an appointment.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Damn, okay. And then we found a place that was much cheaper and did not give a fuck yeah just went there because that's the dog grooming thing was just in that article i was reading about people who were leaving part of the great resignation that sure one of these people who was like dog grooming for like a bigger chain store was like no i'm gonna just do my own thing because i'm talking to other people who i used to know from that same grind and they're, they're loving their life now as like a mobile draw groomer. So,
Starting point is 00:13:48 or pet groomer in general. yeah, the whole thing, man, I had no idea, but let me, let's power the zeitgang. If you're in the garden state,
Starting point is 00:13:56 you know, and you can, and you can fit in a new client for your prestigious grooming business, please call her at Dramos. Yeah. For real. Your North Jersey, mid Jersey. You're North Jersey, Mid Jersey?
Starting point is 00:14:06 I am Central Jersey. And I appreciate that you recognize that it is a real thing. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I can tell you're from the area. You spent some time out here. Philly. You might as well be in Philly
Starting point is 00:14:16 if you're South Jersey. Exactly, exactly. Yeah. Oh, by the way, on search history, I do just want to acknowledge, I always like to point this out whenever we have somebody on
Starting point is 00:14:25 who passes this test, when you put your name into Google and do a space, the second, the first one is DJ Dramos Breakfast Club. The second one is DJ Dramos Girlfriend. Oh, wow. I'm surprised Dr. Amos didn't show up on that one. He's apparently a doctor in africa doing some great work and that was uh always the like google alerts that would come up when i had that set up for like dramas it would be dr amos oh dj dr amos
Starting point is 00:14:57 i'm moving up in the world i've there you go uh dros on the Google search. I feel really grateful. Good for you. What is something you think is overrated? All right. So I think this is going to piss a lot of people off, but I think that Breaking Bad is overrated. All right. Hit us. What about it? Go on. Okay. So I just like I tried watching my two and a half, three episodes and couldn't get into it. And every time I tell somebody this, who's like a breaking bad stand, they tell me, you just got to keep watching. The season gets better. And my argument would be, do I really have to invest that much time into it to actually enjoy? A show should be good and hook me. I feel like from the start, I shouldn't have to invest an entire season into it to actually like it.
Starting point is 00:15:40 That's my argument when it comes to the show. That's what's so good about the show is it fucking sucks at first dude that's how you know it's it sucks shit and then you fucking figure it out that it's bad but it's too late and then you're like no it was actually really good it's like one of the best series ever i mean i yeah i get that i get that lack of momentum that's like the whole reason i never watched mad men because like i was two episodes what the fuck and people are, you gotta get in more. I'm like, no,
Starting point is 00:16:06 I don't. Right. So I will keep going with something. I'm bad at these. Like, I don't, I don't fuck me like Game of Thrones. Like all the shows that people are like,
Starting point is 00:16:15 I think the greatest show ever. I just can't get into it. So maybe it also is a me thing. Oh, right. Right. I bet it's probably harder. Like,
Starting point is 00:16:23 cause I remember I got into Breaking Bad, like maybe after the second season had wrapped or the third season had wrapped. And at that point, like a lot of people were talking about it. I was like, nah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Like whatever. Right. And then I just watched it just to see, but I didn't have people being like, you got it. Like watch it, like watch this episode. I was just like,
Starting point is 00:16:40 my natural curiosity took me there. And I wonder if sometimes like when you feel almost obligated to watch a show to like you know keep up with the discourse or whatever that it's just the motivations are a little bit different and then it has like even like a even more a stronger litmus test that it has to pass for you to be like okay i'll watch it yeah it might be the hype like if it doesn't you know i mean like because it's sohyped, if it doesn't live up to your expectation of it just being like amazing from the get, it might, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:08 I just, I don't get these like hype, you know, hype beast type of shows, I guess. Maybe I put too many, you know, too much expectation on them. Yeah. Breaking Bad does stand out to me as one that like really goes up a level after the first few episodes.
Starting point is 00:17:21 And by the way, for any listeners who heard, my son came to my door door my three-year-old to tell me there's a fly in the house he also was not wearing any pants on his bottom so i had to deal with winnie the pooh told you to warn you about he's home from school today so uh apologies for any scatteredness breaking bad does stand out as as a show that kind of changes like steps up a level i don't i don't think mad men really does oh really yeah everyone's like oh yeah the first like they're like i get that i get it it's slow but like once it gets going though i'm like maybe because i don't fantasize about this era in general like right this wasn't a good time for people like me so i'm not like
Starting point is 00:18:06 yeah let me go there watch that right version of the break bed turns from like a family drama into like you know full-on gangster shit yeah yeah right and i think that's why i wanted some like fucking gangster shit and then it was just like this dude with his family and like you know i mean listen i get great storyline but it wasn't what i was there for yeah yeah yeah yeah i'm well with that though in mind i'm curious if because did you get to the part where like he's like he starts he gets on his gangster and starts blowing shit up no no i i got to the part where they're like basically just figuring out what to do with that one dude in the tub essentially oh got it got it got it i mean that was i think a moment when i was like oh shit okay yeah things changed a little bit there but that's season one isn't it dude i don't see i don't even know
Starting point is 00:18:55 anymore i'm like all over the place with shows that have come out wait what's a show that you do like of all the you know like when people talk about the great shows like what's one that you that you vibe with are you just in generally like i don't really think any of these are good no i mean i'm trying to think of like what what the hype i like like sons of anarchy i have no shame of saying that like it you know fell off a couple seasons but like of the hype i was into it i like followed it till the till the very end you know wow you watch the sopranos sopranos i never have sat down and watched an episode so that one watch the sopranos sopranos i never have sat down and watched an episode so that one i'm willing to but i've never actually sat and watched an episode okay the wire the wire same thing okay so yo you got i think you i know there's there's
Starting point is 00:19:37 some good there's some good ones in there but i don't know i mean in general if maybe the long form tv doesn't really get you then it doesn't get it might be daunting now because there's so many seasons you know what i mean like and it's like the to catch up on it all like you know it's just i can binge watch it for a long time but i feel like sons of anarchy was like one episode a week i can commit to that you know where it's like now being able to watch every episode at one time it feels like uh you know i don't know oh entourage entourage i love that show from start to finish like first first season twice. That's my show. That's definitely one. Especially when they were making Medellin, you know.
Starting point is 00:20:11 It was getting good. Super producer Ana Hosnia was asking if you like Boardwalk Empire, but I can just tell already that's a South Jersey show. Yeah, I can't fuck with it. Sorry. If he didn't like Sopranos, he's not going to fuck with the Lord of the Lost Empire.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Come on. Yeah. I got to draw the line there. What is something you think is underrated? All right. So I think being at this place in my life,
Starting point is 00:20:37 so I was broke for a very, very long time. Now I'm like doing okay, right? So your palate, when it comes to food, begins to elevate when you're in a position where you have a little bit of extra change to spend around and this isn't even anything crazy but
Starting point is 00:20:49 like a good bun like a bread bun is like a life-changing experience like a nice brioche bun like a nice brioche hot dog bun hamburger like that to me has changed my life and oh yeah trader joe's trader joe's has a quality brioche bun. And, like, to the point that, like, I a few months ago had my parents over and I was growing up like some Italian sausages. And I toasted a beautiful brioche bun. And, like, it blew their mind how good this was. And, obviously, we came from, like, buying, like, the cheapest, like, you know, bun that you could possibly buy at, like, the supermarket. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:21:22 Nothing of quality. Half the time it wasn't fresh. So, to is just like some game changing type of stuff it's a very snobby thing but i think a good bun changes the whole course i like that come up when you go from pan bimbo to brioche you know yes and let them know yeah that's i'm sure in that moment when they're like this is so good right how did you do that and you probably looked at your parents you're like hey see your son's doing it you know what i mean i'm out here he's evolving he's leveling up you can be proud of your kid you're proud of the kid the meat was actually from the uh tiger king meat wagon but the bun was so good you guys didn't even know this yeah
Starting point is 00:22:01 it's from that old that walmart that just shut down i also i also have these like haunting memories of being a kid and my one friend who's like house i'd always have dinner at they would have hamburgers with wonder bread and i feel like that's also been a part of it we're like you know you know when you bite into a wonder bread hamburger and that bun just sticks to the roof of your mouth yeah ruins everything so i think you know like that was my childhood so now to be to be out here just flexing at Trader Joe's, it's just like what I've been missing my entire life is blowing my mind. You just gave me such a sense memory
Starting point is 00:22:34 of Wonder Bread hamburgers and the hamburger being grilled in its own grease and maybe a little bit past the time that it would have been at its best. And yeah, it doesn't work. No, it's terrible. Wonder Bread PB&J, though?
Starting point is 00:22:51 I could do that. I'm more of like the Italian brand sliced bread. I'm not sure if that's the actual name, but it's like Italian is the name on the outside of it. They've got that flag on it, right? Yeah, I don't know if that's the actual brand right i'm with you on that they're telling you but that's also a truly a stick to your the roof of your mouth experience is a pb and j with wonder bread like yeah uh
Starting point is 00:23:15 no way the crush just like flakes it's just terrible i don't i don't you know i mean it's it's a shocker that they've been in business this long. You know, the one thing I would do is I would take the Oscar Mayer cheese-filled hot dogs and I would eat that in a slice of Wonder Bread. That was my fucking go-to in 1997 to until 9-11.
Starting point is 00:23:39 You're like, can't do it anymore. I'm not going to blame it all on 9-11, but it certainly didn't help. Was it related to 9-11 or don't want to disrespect a Disney like this. Was it related to 9-11 or that just happens to be a date? What's the correlation? I think it was like this combination of like my high school girlfriend being like, that's disgusting. What are you eating?
Starting point is 00:23:57 And that was around 9-11. And then also I remember. It was your personal 9-11. Yeah. Oh, all that to say, that was actually June of 2002. I'm sorry. When I say 9-11, it's the moment my high school girlfriend told me to stop eating those cheese hot dogs. That and like the local grocery store just like ran out of them for a second. So cut to now, like I'm with Her Majesty, my partner now.
Starting point is 00:24:17 When I brought home that shit, she was like, what the fuck is this? And I'm like, don't worry about it. It's not for you. Okay. Take it away and ignore it. Yeah. Yeah, it's like one of those ideas that, like, it sounds great in theory, but when you actually try it,
Starting point is 00:24:33 it's just terrible. Oh, it's a mess. It's just salt and vague cheese flavor. I mean, just do it like a cheeseburger and put cheese on top of your hot dog. You don't need a built-in false cheese. Yo, you had the whizzy glizzy with the whiz inside? The whiz wit glizzy?
Starting point is 00:24:51 Oh, no. That's next level. Did you ever yourself or know anybody who just ate hot dogs cold out of the refrigerator? No. I had a friend like that. Is that a confession? no out of the refrigerator no i had a friend is that a confession no i i did it a couple times because like i had a in my elementary school like fourth and fifth grade was combined and like my cool fifth grade friend like did that and i was like you know i wanted to be him so i started
Starting point is 00:25:18 doing it and i was like yo this just feels like salmonella i'm sure it doesn't right give it to you i'm sure there's they are better than that. But he's like, why would you cook it? It's like the same thing. He was like one of those smart kids who had weird takes, you know, in February. Also, like, hot dogs are fully cooked. There's no risk in eating those things. Right, it's not a risk.
Starting point is 00:25:41 They're so processed. But also, like, who would eat it like string cheese and shit? Like, just hold it and take a risk it's processed but also like it just tasted like like a like string cheese and shit like just holding like taking bites like a cucumber on the farm yeah nah uh-huh that's gross yeah thanks yeah all right well let's take a quick break i will try and just uh eternal sunshine of the spotless mind that memory out of my brain and we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and L.A.-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, Thank you. never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about
Starting point is 00:27:49 that quote. What is it like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry,
Starting point is 00:28:22 Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them wise. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on.
Starting point is 00:28:34 From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game?
Starting point is 00:28:50 And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago
Starting point is 00:29:24 when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current, available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And we've got part two, the Godfather part two of the Cuomo Brothers saga. Yeah. Cuomo out. Part two. Poor guy. part two of the Cuomo Brothers saga. Yeah. Cuomo out.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Part two. Poor guy. Poor guy. Chris Cuomo. Such a, look, always living in the shadow of his more important sibling, Andrew. Nothing, again, as much as he hates being compared to Fredo Corleone. That's a slur. That's a slur, Miles.
Starting point is 00:30:43 It's a slur. It's a slur. Also, just want to read a vague line from the Fredo Corleone. That's a slur. That's a slur. It's a slur. It's a slur. Also, just want to read a vague line from the Fredo Corleone Wikipedia page. Just saying in the films, Fredo's feelings of personal inadequacy and his inability to act effectively on his own behalf are character flaws leading to greater consequences. OK, keep that in mind when we now talk about Chris Cuomo trying to do what he thinks is right for his brother, trying to stick up for him. So he's not just a loyal brother, but he's also, you know, like in a familial sense, but in like the toxic male sense where, you know, secrets just aren't kept.
Starting point is 00:31:14 They are being actively suppressed. And that is sort of the news that came out when the New York attorney general dropped some more documents regarding Andrew's harassment allegations. we'll drop some more documents regarding Andrew's harassment allegations. And in those documents, we're seeing text transcripts where Chris is talking to the chief of staff, Melissa DeRosa of the governor's office saying things like, quote, this is something that like Andrew Cuomo's chief of staff texted to Chris, quote, rumor going around from political one to two more people coming out tomorrow. Can you check your sources? Cuomo is replying on it.
Starting point is 00:31:45 And then later on saying, no one has heard that yet. So, okay. So you're just looking up some stuff. I hear that. But that still seems to be counter to what you said you were doing when you denied you had any hand in helping your brother or looking into allegations. Then there was another one.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Let's just, like, just to pause on that. So he has, like, inside sources at these other press outlets and he's like checking with them in a way that is, you know, everybody knows who he is. They know it's his brother. Like so that's probably applying a little bit of pressure behind the scenes. Right. Of like. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Or he's or if he's you know smart and he's trying to keep it low he has another producer he knows ask someone so it's not coming directly from him but he can get that information from other places and still you know essentially like like we're seeing fucking strategize with the governor's office to figure out their best sort of optics pr defense against these allegations. There's another one where he says, I have a lead on the wedding girl, which is referring to another of Andrew's accusers. He said that in a deposition, he said, quote, that my friend heard that maybe she had just been put up to it. Now, that's interesting because there's a fucking picture of wedding girl with your brother in this moment where he was groping her face, asking her if he could kiss her.
Starting point is 00:33:10 So I don't know how that squares with this whole thing. Like she was put up to, you know, all this other stuff. When you're like looking at things very clearly, she looks visibly uncomfortable. Yeah. Terrified. Yeah. Really scared. And he looks like for lack of a better comparison and i use
Starting point is 00:33:26 this a lot but when in the in the movie the mask the jim carrey movie when he loses the mask and the bad guy dorian puts it on in terms of that nasty motherfucker that's what andrew cuomo looks like he's like can i get a kiss baby and she's not feeling it um and that was what you know that was part of her testimony so i think we're getting a clear idea of what's going on here. Chris, again, using his position as a, I guess, quote, journalist at CNN, whatever that means, to find out any info to help his brother. Yet up and down, he said he would never abuse this position. He, you know, on I believe on the air, he said, quote, I never attacked nor encouraged anyone to attack any woman who came forward.
Starting point is 00:34:08 I never made calls to the press about my brother's situation. So, yeah. It's interesting because the unevolved, like, version of me that was raised on toxic masculinity is like, oh, he's being a good brother, right? But then when you really break it down, because I've heard people saying that, but when you really break it down, it's like, well, like, oh, he's being a good brother, right? But then when you really break it down,
Starting point is 00:34:25 because I've heard people saying that, but when you really break it down, it's like, well, no, actually he's assisting in women's voices being suppressed who felt like they were being, you know, sexually assaulted or abused or made uncomfortable in the workplace. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:34:38 I feel like I've seen a lot of people just be like, well, what do you expect a brother to do? But yeah, he's actively trying to hide these women's experience, you know, regardless if it's your brother But yeah, he's actively trying to hide these women's experience, you know, regardless if it's your brother or not, he's doing some bullshit, right? Right. And this is the thing, right?
Starting point is 00:34:51 So even when he, so he had to testify during the course of the investigation from the attorney general's office. In his testimony, the way he tried to put it was like your point, Dramos, is like, I'm just being a brother here. I'm just blowing out, okay? Quote, this is my
Starting point is 00:35:05 brother and i'm trying to help my brother through a situation where he has told me he did nothing wrong and that's it for me how do i protect my family how do i protect him probably should have been thinking more about how i protect myself which just never occurred to me and that was it and now he's being indefinitely suspended and like like you're saying, yeah, a lot of people have been like, well, you know, family, you know, blah, blah, blah. And look, I understand that ride or die logic because I'm sure many of us as loyal friends, you'll literally do anything for your friends or your family. But this is different than like driving across country
Starting point is 00:35:40 to surprise somebody for their birthday or like, you know, burning down the phones to like find the absolute best medical care for your grandparent who's fallen ill like like that's some of that you know ride or die stuff now right truth be told in my younger years like in high school and college when people be like yo i cheated on my girl whatever you'll keep it down i'm like i got you i got you i got you right and then let this person make a fool of somebody else in retrospect i'm like that's fucking nonsense because on some level you have to understand where the lines are between like how you would protect somebody how you help somebody and then when you're actively trying to do harm to another person yeah and it's hard to
Starting point is 00:36:20 like you have to understand when you're in a position of power that like or you you are a famous person and your brother is running New York that like, all right, like this isn't like somebody teasing us on the schoolyard and me like standing up for him, which, by the way, would never happen. It was always Chris getting teased. But like that's, you know, it's just the patriarchy straight up. These are power structures that have held other people down for fucking millennia now. And so it's like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:36:54 you have to be able to draw that line and recognize those boundaries. Toxic New Yorker or just toxic men will know that as Bromerta. The Bromerta. toxic toxic new yorker or just toxic men will know that is bro merta i mean yeah especially when you when you when you think about how many like sexual assaults um you know that like go unreported or or just go without any sort of justice you know what i mean i think a
Starting point is 00:37:22 lot of people are a bit ignorant to how many of these types of cases never see the light of day, especially when you're talking about men who have incredible amounts of power and money, you know, and yeah, it's just, you know, at the end of the day, like, I think you can still support your family and love your family and have that unconditional love, but also be, you know, willing willing to say like he has to suffer the consequences and he did some messed up shit you know like that's really yeah being an actual man about this whole thing and and you know understanding the severity of the situation yeah yeah cnn you know that people who work at cnn are saying like this was long overdue and like we were like wondering when the fuck this was gonna happen
Starting point is 00:38:02 and they're still like why is it an indefinite suspension and not a firing? Sure. Presumably because Jeff Zucker's probably a friend of Chris Cuomo's. You know? The guy who runs CNN. And he can't even put him down. He can't even put Fredo down when he's saying the Hail Mary.
Starting point is 00:38:21 As his brother watches from the lake house. Yeah. Does he watch or does he just hear? I know he's definitely around to experience it on some level. Whether that's him watching from afar. No, I think he watches. He's just in his desk and we're just cutting back and forth, I think. But he knows.
Starting point is 00:38:41 But Michael knows. Anyway, shut up. He's watching through like bird watching goggles like he's like yes go go go and then he gives a gives a small fist bump yes got him got him yeah but anyways i you know i i think chris cuomo's always felt like he wasn't taken seriously within his family for being a journalist this was his opportunity to like you know help the family business with his position as a journalist and he just couldn't you know get over that opportunity yeah which yeah get over yourself
Starting point is 00:39:18 bro and stop and stop fucking keeping fucking secrets in general society that's like a huge a thing that we all have to overcome you know like right the bro merta shit is real like you grow up keeping secrets whether it's like your dad being like hey keep that from your mom you know yeah right just be between us and there's shit like that shit builds into literally stuff where you might be a witness or have information about something like a crime like this. And you're like, no,
Starting point is 00:39:46 that's, that's going against the code, but that's not, we have to have a new code, which is basically being like being humane to all people. You're already selling all of your secrets and personal information to marketers. Why,
Starting point is 00:39:59 why not just like be, be transparent with the rest of the society around maybe that's the one good thing about the social media area it makes it really fucking hard to hide how big of a scumbag you actually are you know so shout out to the social media for that at least yeah that's why mark mark zuckerberg has always been my spiritual and philosophical leader thought leader all right let's talk about the republicans real quick because they are threatening to you know hold the funding for the government hostage and shut the government down pretty soon i think on friday and their main complaint is biden's vaccine and testing mandates
Starting point is 00:40:38 and so that made me ask like do they think this is a winner like for them i i know it's popular with a small number of like a small portion of their base but you know as as we've seen just in overall numbers and polling and also how people react with regards to like school board votes and stuff being pro recklessness when it comes to the vaccine isn't very popular all evidence that you that's like undeniable like there's just a televangelist leader of the daystar television network which i'm hoping they came up with after the first season of succession because it rhymes with the succession company but he called the vaccine a sin, said, you know, pitched alternative methods of treating it. He just died of COVID. So it just seems like there's kind of the and then also Trump reportedly
Starting point is 00:41:32 tested positive before his debate with Biden, before he went and met with a room full of gold star families, before he like went to a bunch of different events and spoke and you know we we kind of suspected this at the time but it also feels like a a different lifetime a lifetime ago but yeah september of 2020 yeah dial it back for once that hellacious time but i, the whole thing with this, too, is in terms of like messaging the the anti mandate Vax crew, they're just they just beat that. They just beat the administration to like the punch of being like, no, we're going to get in everybody's head that this is ridiculous. This is too much. This is like this is the opposite of safe. This is actually like bad because the polling around it is like it's it's it's not even a majority. Like if you ask at this point, if in a poll of all adults, 47 percent, only 47 percent favor like a max a vaccine mandate and 50 percent oppose.
Starting point is 00:42:41 So I'm sure on some level, conservatives look at that number and go, okay, that's something there. And then within their party, seven Republicans, 77% oppose within Democrats, 18% oppose. So it's splitting down party race, all that lines pretty, pretty predictably. But I think it's, it's a, it's a weird one to do because, you know, we have a new variant that may be something to be concerned about. Plus, just whatever happens with an inevitable winter surge of infections. If people are still going to be like, yeah, yeah, it's fine. It's fine. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:43:15 This is what I'm fighting. I just don't understand, like, the hypocrisy. Like, I can't wrap my brain around, like around like okay so trump boasts that he's the reason we have this vaccine but you guys are still like it doesn't you know i'm saying like does just nothing makes sense like the republicans are are vaccinated but you're there's you're listening to them telling you not to like i i i'm at this point where i just like i'm at a loss or how you can possibly communicate with with people at this point right like it's almost just like there is no communicating with this crazy sector of the country who literally is
Starting point is 00:43:50 just defying logic at every turn and like constantly has no problem with like contradicting themselves just to like be able to claim freedom at the end of the day you know it's just this weird fucking mindset that there's no talking to well well because i think that's the part is like it really isn't about logic it's just about like rhetorically that i'm not doing what you say so it doesn't matter if you understand why i'm saying that the fact is i'm just you just you're you're joe biden i'm just philosophically opposed to everything and then even then but it's even funny because i know how people be like well yeah the vaccine is good but not everybody needs to take it and some people they're getting sick and they're like congressperson aren't you fully vaccinated they're like shut the fuck up right
Starting point is 00:44:33 this this messaging works for this specific group of people i'm trying to get on the opposite end of the spectrum so they oppose joe biden and i will turn and say something different to maybe people who aren't as resistant to vaccines and i'll pivot to something like think of the spectrum so they oppose joe biden and i will turn and say something different to maybe people who aren't as resistant to vaccines and i'll pivot to something like think of the kids and like how they got to wear masks and they're so confused because all this mask wearing it's just it's just terrible they i am seeing it start to break through with it i think it's just people's general being exhausted by like worn down by the pandemic they're like what we're gonna do another lockdown that really worked last time and it's like well this is kind of a long term way yeah like you just don't know yeah but i i'm seeing that break more mainstream the the idea of like
Starting point is 00:45:23 this is bullshit like we right i'm not doing another lockdown you guys didn't another vaccine nothing happened to me last time it's also crazy to me that like people don't realize this is the same shit that's happening all around the world like so many of these people make it seem like watch it the u.s government's trying to control you and it's like bro every fucking country in the world is literally having the same exact conversations and there are other countries that are far stricter than ours and they're not all communist countries like it doesn't make i don't understand how people can be this much in their own bubble to not realize those things you know that's america though right there you know no no understanding of the rest of the world how
Starting point is 00:46:01 that relates to what you have or where you are. You live quite literally in your bubble of what you can see directly in front of you because people who I know who are anti-vax, they say the same shit, which is always relying on anecdotal information. That's pretty much like even people who seem like more reasonable that are anti-vax are like, well, I mean, to be real, like, I don't know anybody who's gotten and gotten really that sick. Like the people who I know, like they were sick for a little bit but it wasn't that bad so i don't know and then they're like oh actually this person that like whose butcher store we go to the the guy there died right so now you do know someone's like but maybe that won't change your mind because maybe because you didn't know him personally enough. That's just a weird thing where it's just, you know, and I get it.
Starting point is 00:46:47 It's fucking scary for people to think that they have no control over their safety like whatsoever. So for I and I'm sure there's another group to whether they might, you know, might not be straight up conservatives, just more of a mindset of like denial about their lack of control over something. And the only way they can operate is to just actively deny that they're in any kind of danger. Yeah. There's a new study making the rounds on social media as of yesterday. That's about how like it's a new study in quotes. It's basically an abstract that people have copy and pasted saying that mRNA vaccines have been linked to heart disease. And so now like Reuters and all the respectable journalistic institutions are having to jump on top of it and be like, that's actually, there's no evidence for that.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Like that study doesn't have any evidence, but it's just, it does feel a little bit like this is what America wants to believe so badly that you're just like, you know, That this is what America wants to believe so badly. That you're just trying to hand out speeding tickets at the Indy 500 type thing. It's just like, this shit is... You're going to believe this because you want to believe this. But yeah, it's a really good point. I can't remember who it was, but I was listening to somebody interviewed talking about being in paris for the uh the beginning of the
Starting point is 00:48:09 pandemic and just you know they were four weeks into lockdown and watching americans be like fuck this this doesn't like right this is made up like you guys made this shit up and him being like, that doesn't, huh? Like we're, we're, we've been in it too. And nobody over here thinks it's made up, but yeah,
Starting point is 00:48:32 that's a, not, not the most, not the best at kind of seeing the big picture, I guess. No. And I think to the, even like this idea of the messaging around mandates and clearly like the
Starting point is 00:48:44 anti side got, you know know they got in a frenzy over it it's like i'm like i don't even know what the administration could have done given the state of things in the united you know in the in the u.s but like you damn sure could have messaged harder to be like this is what happens here are some little graphics so you understand shit here's what happened this is why you have to actually this is how you're going to get out of a pandemic or things like that. And I know there were, you know, there were presentations here and there. But, you know, I think their allies on places like CNN and MSNBC were just kind of spending more time being like, can you believe these assholes who are like, right, want to lock down? leave these assholes who are like right want to lock down that's right that's not going to compel somebody who's on the fence like rather than being like the coverage being around the safety of it what will happen like how you can how this is a way to ensure people's safety and because it just became more like oh these these people don't get it or whatever and yeah we talk about that to an
Starting point is 00:49:40 extent here but sure it's it's interesting how when you have all those tools at your disposal as a as an administrator as a presidential administration that you completely just you know the best you can do is get olivia rodrigo to like say a couple things like come on right oh i mean nothing miles it's not nothing yeah exactly uh shout out to olivia rodrigo but it's like it's just further proof of how terrible the Democrats really are at messaging all around. And also just like liberal media doubles down on that by turning the news into like gossip TV and just like half of their newscast is spent pulling up clips of Fox News and then commentating on it. You know what I mean? It's like you're not actually giving people information. You're just sitting there like making a fucking reaction video that like a like a youtuber would do essentially you know that's what's i think they're failing to actually give people real information
Starting point is 00:50:31 and things like that yeah it's based on the myth and like reinforcing the myth that people who believe liberal things are smarter than people who believe conservative things and just that being the end goal of their coverage is like look at these idiots right but we're smart and it's just like actually uh you guys are idiots too first of all we're all idiots but that's that's definitely not the point yeah yeah i mean i do just want to talk about like the the trump story this is not that this will have any uh effect on his ability to just storm back to the white house in 2024 but he did have covet he had tested positive for covet days in advance of the biden debate which obviously him putting joe biden's old ass at
Starting point is 00:51:21 in danger probably will just make people on the republican side like him more but he also attended an indoor meeting with gold star families literally the day after he tested positive and that is that's the meeting that he claimed had given him covid so not only did he put them at risk he claimed that they gave it to him even though he had already tested positive and he said specifically that they were these people they were within an inch of my face sometimes they want to hug me they want to kiss me and they do and frankly i'm not telling them to back up so and that's not that's not you improvising right there. That's a fucking quote. Legit. That's a quote. That's word for word. He said that.
Starting point is 00:52:08 And he is, again, describing a meeting he had with the families of fallen soldiers the day after he tested positive for COVID. That people were inches from his face. And, you know, he was willing to kiss and hug them. But they gave it to him. Right. Right. right, right. Even though he had already tested positive. No. Anyways, and then just the other thing,
Starting point is 00:52:31 we're going to get into Dr. Oz a little bit more in the coming days. But I think that's another example of, like, people reading the tea leaves and being like, damn, man, Americans really want this COVID thing to be like a hoax. And they want to, like I think he recognizes like he's the doctor who's willing to be anti-vax and, you know, entertain anti-vax perspectives. And so it seems weird that he's like running for Senate at the same time. Something in the culture and in the zeitgeist made him be like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:53:06 it's my time right now. He's yeah. He's just a thirsty stunt queen who happens to be a doctor. That's really what it is because it's not, it's not, he's never being guided by his education as a doctor. It's always like, how am I going to be famous?
Starting point is 00:53:23 How am I going to make my profile? How am I going to increase that even further? And if I got, yeah, if I got to say, I love hydroxychloroquine, then let's go. I mean, it's the same thing as Trump. He was just like a rich dude who wants to be a celebrity, you know, and like the ultimate celebrity in the world is going to be the president of the United States, you know?
Starting point is 00:53:41 So I think Dr. Oz is taking a, you know, a page out of his playbook. But I mean, I remember when Dr. Oz was on The Breakfast Club and he was talking about quarantining from his family. So I mean, like, are you really, you know, it's like all this shit is available. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:53:53 Like it's all documented people's perspectives and all that kind of stuff. And, you know, unfortunately people are too, I don't want to say dumb, but man, dumb to not look up, you know, a lot of this stuff and prove him wrong. I think, yeah, I think there's this weird duality that a lot of people have, especially in the West, as it relates to like the media. Right. Like there's this weird thing that as if being on TV legitimizes every single fucking thing you say, because it's like in the back of your mind, it's like, well, they can't be on TV.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Just lying about shit on TV. That's how you're on TV. Like it's like fucking grad school or some shit. Like there's no way you could just stumble upon TV. But that is the case. And at the same time, they're like people. A lot of people are grappling with some things being legitimized merely because they've been presented to them on TV and other things also being total bullshit because it's on TV. So there's like a lot of
Starting point is 00:54:50 people holding to like realities sort of in their minds at the same time because I think that is a thing we see just even with Donald Trump like people are like well he's on TV he's rich like I mean this dude wouldn't have done shit if he wasn't on TV so right shout out to a shout out to the real king
Starting point is 00:55:05 maker tv because i mean yeah mcconaughey was almost run you know like there's just so much we just love it we just love the tv we thought we were getting television but television got us that's from a quiz game or quiz show quiz show was that? Ralph Fiennes and John Turturro? Yeah. Brought to you by Geritol. That shit is really good. If people like, I missed it when it first came out. I thought it was like, just like a lame kind of history movie. But that shit was really good. My mom took me to the theater to see that shit.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Yeah. That's why I remember so vividly Geritol. And I was like, what the fuck was this? This was real? Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick so vividly Geritol. And I was like, what the fuck was this era? This was real? Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break.
Starting point is 00:55:49 We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job?
Starting point is 00:57:15 Girl, yes! Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Santer. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself.
Starting point is 00:57:43 Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her.
Starting point is 00:58:33 What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:58:55 The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president.
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Starting point is 01:00:09 that a killer asteroid is coming our way and nasa has sent a team of oil rig workers up to explode it with nuclear weapons because the the headlines let me just read a couple headlines the new york post nasa plans armageddon-style mission to crash into asteroid's moon. CBS News. NASA to launch Armageddon-style mission to deliberately crash into an asteroid's moon and test planetary defense. NASA doesn't want to miss a thing with this next attempt. It's like, oh my god, please. Yeah, so this is based on a spacecraft NASA just launched to test humanity's ability to punch a potentially hazardous asteroid away from Earth.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Which is unusual for NASA since they're a civilian agency that doesn't usually deal with security threats. Fucking with bang bangs, usually. Yeah, yeah, yeah. an agency that doesn't usually deal with security threats. Fucking with bang bangs, usually. Yeah. In 2005, Congress assigned NASA with monitoring asteroids and protecting the planet from dangerous space objects. So that's where this comes from. Almost 10 years later in 2014, in case you guys find yourself sleeping too well at night. So 10 years after they were assigned to protect the planet by monitoring asteroids, you know, their goal had been within 10 years to locate 90% of all near-Earth asteroids big enough to cause significant damage, and they were only able to spot about 10%. So, you know, one in 10. That's not great. Not not awesome i would say and yeah other people are arguing that it
Starting point is 01:01:47 should have been the space force but who the fuck's arguing that other than donald trump but so what are they how so but they are gonna they're gonna shoot fucking handguns at the asteroids kind of so they're going to call here yeah they're just crashing into the asteroid and the goal is to change its orbital speed by less than 1%, but that would be enough to alter its orbital period by several minutes. So it's basically you slow it down
Starting point is 01:02:17 for like a couple minutes and that would be enough to make an asteroid miss earth were it were it coming through like that i think this is long overdue because i have to say as a kid this is one of my greatest fears in life was an asteroid coming to earth and just absolutely destroying it so the inner anxious kid who was developing very early anxiety about meteors uh would have really appreciated knowing that this was actually a thing and people were making an effort towards you know us not dying from a meteor yeah yeah that's that's the same thing all those movies like i thought water world was gonna be real i was sweat i was
Starting point is 01:02:54 sweating over water world for a while till about fortunately global warming is a myth right yeah well luckily i was like oh but it's funny because all i read was this one thing it's like it was like i remember in like wired magazine at the time it's like even if all the polar ice melted it's not gonna cause water world and i was like oh okay it would just fuck up the everything around dark seasons and all this other shit i'm like i'm too young to get that but yeah also this shit is also freaky as fuck, too. All those movies, whenever Deep Impact, Armageddon, all that stuff, I would always be like, oh my
Starting point is 01:03:30 God, please tell me somebody's working on this shit. Armageddon, though, I have to say, I love the movie Armageddon. I saw that in the theaters. I remember being a kid. It was like packing when you have to sit right in the front row with your breaking neck to watch it. Just a classic fucking Aerosmith song. Just a great soundtrack.
Starting point is 01:03:45 Talk about the wrong stuff. One of the great lines in the history of movies when the oil rig workers are walking into NASA. I think Buscemi or Billy Bob Thornton is like, talk about the wrong stuff. Am I right?
Starting point is 01:04:03 Michael Bay saw this and was like, hey, our plan was not that far off. Oh, really now? Just to revisit, the movie's plan was to train oil drillers to become astronauts so they could land on an asteroid, drill into it and detonate a nuclear weapon, which couldn't be that couldn't be much further off. So one of the basic problems of that plot is that it makes way more sense to teach astronauts how to use a drill than to train oil drillers to become astronauts in a week, which was actually a point that was made by Ben Affleck on set. So Affleck recalls, he asked, why is it easier to train oil drillers to become astronauts than to train astronauts to become oil drillers?
Starting point is 01:04:50 And he then recalls, they told me to shut the fuck up. So that was the end of that talk. As he should have. He was like, you know, Ben, just shut up, okay? This is the real NASA plan, all right? And I was like, you mean it's a real plan at NASA to train oil drillers? And he was like, just shut your mouth.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Wow. I love... Who the fuck was Ben Affleck at that time? You know, come on. He wasn't in the peak of Ben Affleck. I mean, at that point he would have had an Academy Award, no? What? Oh, as a writer though, right? For Good Will Hunting?
Starting point is 01:05:31 Where's Michael Bay's Academy Award? excuse you you know okay go on sir tell me about writing real quick michael bay do you have a fucking oscar meanwhile i asked one question and you almost had a panicked attack my guy he does have two criterion collection movies though armageddon and the Rock are on Criterion Collection because his college film professor taught or was on the board at Criterion. Oh, that's the reason why there's... Yeah, yeah, yeah. But those were like the first Criterion movies I bought.
Starting point is 01:05:58 I can't lie. Yeah, look, we're all guilty. They're classic. You tell me you can't turn those movies off if they come up on a lazy Sunday. You find yourself sucked into all those movies. By the way, you'll have my hubby!
Starting point is 01:06:12 It should be noted that when Drama said, his Oscar is for writing, he was making the jerk off hand motion when he said writing. Just so you know, no respect for writers. He for writers writing or whatever
Starting point is 01:06:27 cool cool man yeah why don't you uh go write me up a fucking diet coke ben so uh just to kind of in case anybody's interested on like why nasa is spending millions and millions of dollars on this uh this wouldn't necessarily be the plan for all threatening asteroids uh larger ones like an armageddon might require a fleet of spacecrafts or even uh hovering a craft near an asteroid for years in order to impart a small gravitational influence to nudge it away from earth but no one wants to watch a movie where bruce willis remotely pilots a ship for several years so instead we got armageddon and because uh our news complex because our media industrial
Starting point is 01:07:15 complex you know is based on the profit motive our headlines are like it's armageddon y'all so yeah that's where we're at yeah i mean it's it's it's disappointing to to hear that nasa's actual plan involves shit like yeah we can just be really efficient we don't have to detonate a nuclear bomb in the fucking space and we can just use the forces of gravity to just alter its course. But meanwhile, this is the planet NASA, Ben, you fucking joke. This is one of those times I'd love for Trump to be in office just to hear his commentary on like his idea.
Starting point is 01:07:55 Like he has a better idea for how to get rid of the asteroid, you know? That is something that we should keep in mind though. We only know about 10% of the asteroids that might be a danger to Earth. So anyone who's thinking it might be a good bit to elect Trump again, just keep in mind that he might be the president when an actually, you know, globe threatening crisis is hurtling towards us. So, Jesus. is hurtling towards us.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Jesus. Can you imagine? I mean, granted, we have enough observational points to see something just coming so fast, but if there was one like, yo, shit, y'all got 10 minutes. We fucked up. We did not. Okay, I should have checked
Starting point is 01:08:40 the mirror. And I did a lane change, so to speak. That one snuck up on us, folks, about that it's been it's been it's been fun yeah i think that's what adam mckay's new movie's about it is yeah bringing back my uh my childhood anxiety they are and that's right and it's like a satire of like because the media just turns it into like a media spectacle right they're just like it becomes like a hotly debated thing about whether there is actually an asteroid hurtling towards earth how should he do you think it is to be a scientist like working on this project like day night and like the media is just making a fucking mockery of this like right
Starting point is 01:09:19 you're saying they're like spilling all your free time working on this whole thing to save the world potentially. And they're just talking about Bruce Willis and Ben Affleck. Turns out we weren't that far off. All right. Well, Dramos, as always, man, such a pleasure to have you on the show. Thank you, guys. Where can people find you and follow you? on the show. Thank you guys.
Starting point is 01:09:42 Where can people find you and follow you? At DJ Dramos, D-R-A-M-O-S on all social media and yeah, podcast Life as a Gringo. You can search for that wherever you find podcasts
Starting point is 01:09:53 as well as any music you want to hear from me, Dramos on streaming platforms. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:04 All right. So this is a super New York thing and probably most people aren't going to get it if you're not following this street interviewer in New York, but it's just a meme that says... Yes. So it's literally my obsession that I have
Starting point is 01:10:17 with my girlfriend. It's my answer to everything when she oppresses me about something, but the meme is just nobody. Me. Bing bong. That's my... Bing bong your life bing bong it makes no sense at all and it's just like the internet in all its glory that these things are just reaching the masses and make absolutely no sense and i love yeah the amount that my friend who my friend who teaches at an elementary school is a music teacher in the valley and he's like yo my fourth graders all they talk about are glizzies he's like all they do is watch side talk and they're like fuck your life bing bong
Starting point is 01:10:55 it's wild a weird fucking world that we live in man that like this is the stuff that is is cutting through you know what I mean? They're going to think that DJ Drama is fucking like Walter Cronkite or some shit. They're like, and Coney Island is the birthplace of all culture. I'm going to salute
Starting point is 01:11:18 President Joe Byron. God bless the internet. Miles, where can people find you you what's the tweet you've been enjoying find me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray also the other show for 20 day fiance with sophie alexander we talk 90 day fiance you know how we do it and some tweets that are like first of all a shout out to everybody who's showing us their uh their wrapped up spotify bits how you're all consuming the zeitgeist on the daily. Shout out to actually Damien Nicholas,
Starting point is 01:11:48 who actually did a screenshot of his screen and put the words, bing bong. I was like, everything is on. People are on brand always. But the tweet that I like comes from Young Chomsky, Y-U-N-G, tweeted, Two comos down, river sweating. But, you know. Shout out to Weezer.
Starting point is 01:12:12 Let's see. Some tweets I've been enjoying. Amelia Elizalde tweeted, Fave part of taking my boyfriend home for a week is saying, This store used to be a different store until he cries. And then Connor Cregan tweeted, I don't know why we keep putting avocados in sandwiches. It's obvious they don't want to be there.
Starting point is 01:12:33 I've never eaten an avocado-based sandwich without that shit just pooping out the back of the sandwich. I hate avocados, but that's a great point for also not liking avocados they just make a mess of everything yeah I mean they just they don't want to be in your sandwich leave them alone you can find me on twitter
Starting point is 01:12:54 at jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode
Starting point is 01:13:10 as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy? I'm going to go out on like a funky track from this group Common Saints. It's called Idle Eyes, I-D-O-L. And if you like Jungle, you're going to like this because it's funky.
Starting point is 01:13:26 It's got falsetto vocals, but it's also kind of trippy. It's like if a Jungle album was discovered in a haunted Sam Goody, and you put this in your CD player. Because there's like these dope reverb effects on it, and just a little bit of record fuzz. There's just some artifacting aesthetics to it that I really like about it so check this one out it's called idolized by common sense common saints sorry not common thanks that's oh sorry goody too yeah yeah reference man yeah all right well it's closed i mean jersey is close close oh shit no one that makes sense
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