The Daily Zeitgeist - NaTrend Fielder 9/9: Delusional AI Man, 10/7=9/11?, ‘Entourage’, The Washington Sun, Burning Man

Episode Date: September 9, 2026

In this edition of NaTrend Fielder, Jack and Miles discuss an AI guy saying something about AI that i can’t be bothered typing, Netanyahu using Oct. 7th as Israeli 9/11?, the *not* ‘Entour...age’ gambling ad, The Washington Sun rising from the ashes of the Washington Post, Burning Man death watch and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:11 Yes, it's me, Miles Gray. I've just returned. On assignment. On assignment, from assignment. From assignment. From assignment. What an assignment it was. It was so much accomplished that we can't tell you about.
Starting point is 00:03:26 I've been sworn to secrecy. I've been sworn to secrecy. Anyway, I hope everyone had a good Labor Day. We haven't gotten to talk yet about the, the Nathan Fielder. I mean, we have over text, but the, you can see everything.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Traylor. I found out a friend of my nose, Lance Oppenheim, the other filmmaker. Yeah. And this dude is having a moment. Was like, I was having a moan.
Starting point is 00:03:52 They're, without spoiling anything, they're like, I've, they're like, I heard, I knew about this project a little bit and they're like, it's,
Starting point is 00:03:59 it's out there. They're like, you can't, it's out there. The trailer is just such a, just scratching the surface. And yeah, I mean, like to see that exchange with Nathan Fielder, you can clearly tell like that from that trailer moment that they had whatever was being filmed, Nathan had to intervene and be like, hold on. Are you being like what's going on? Like I feel like you're putting up a facade. You're not being real. And then just sweet spot is always getting involved in some weird kind of vaguely romantic sort of entanglement with associates. him like not really knowing
Starting point is 00:04:39 knowing the cues. Not sure if he's falling in love with her too. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I like when Anna, because obviously the three of us were big Nathan Fielder fans. We were sending, I sent the trailer to like you and Anna.
Starting point is 00:04:52 And then she came back with that one meme that was like Nathan's reaction face. It says, guy playing a bit meets the real deal. Yeah, exactly. That's really like the depths of, sociopathy. I'm just her her eyes. Yeah. As honest
Starting point is 00:05:10 said, deranged. Deranged eyes. Yeah. I mean, it's like textbook. I don't know what the textbook is, but those eyes are textbook eyes. Those are text book. Those eyes are in some textbook. They're in a textbook for sure. I don't know. Textbooks of the future. Yep. But then it's, you're like, why is she doing that? Like, why does she like have that like swivel going on her head? And then the reveal is that she's like rocking her baby. the whole time you're like, what is going on?
Starting point is 00:05:36 There's something like so strange about her and her energy and how she's like doing this like kind of headnot thing. And then you pull back and it's like, oh, she's my. So it's like really kind of puts you right on edge. I'm very excited for that. I can't believe it's three hours. I've yet to be disappointed by anything he's created. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:58 And it's also just wild too. Like he every project is just opening up like. another dimension of his creativity that I'm just more impressed by because at first is like, oh, this guy's really good at like these awkward exchanges. And then you're like, this guy's really good at like casting people. And you're like, oh, this guy is like a meta thinker. And now you're like, where in the fuck? All right, keep going, Nathan. Whatever, wherever this ride goes, like I'm in. I've talked before about how I saw him live at just for laughs years and years ago, like, right when Nathan for you came on, and, like, the thing he did for his live show is
Starting point is 00:06:32 look into the audience and live, like, just find the weirdest, most interesting people and, like, pull them out of the audience and interview them. So, like, that is his skill is finding the strangest, weirdest people. And, you know, once you're at a certain level, you have your pick of all the strangest, weirdest people. And I mean, I, this is one where I probably could have cast it for I could have been like, you and Elizabeth Holmes are a perfect match. This is exactly the cup. Yeah, we need this. We need this.
Starting point is 00:07:06 This is John Lennon and Yoko. Oh, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like the woman from the first season of the rehearsal is, you know, a great, great TV character. But, like, now we're in the big leagues. We're in the shit now. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Now we're in the absolute shit. Anyways. All right. Well, this is the episode where we tell you what is trending on this Wednesday, September 9th. What is trending? What is trending? September 9th. Two days out, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:07:38 Two days out, man. Nine-nine. Nine-nine. Nine-nine. Nine. Nine. No-no. Or no-no in Germany today.
Starting point is 00:07:47 No-no day? Yeah. Hey, speaking of a big no-no, an anthropic researcher. Yeah. quit over judgment day. And had a lot of things to say. Don't be so casual with that use of judgment day. This guy, his fucking hairs on.
Starting point is 00:08:07 I'm like, I'm really not sure what to make of this. I don't either. I don't like, because like our analysis up to this point has been, well, it seems like they keep being like, this is coming for all your jobs. And like they're, you know, I definitely believe that there are people in the AI industry. who are just trying to sell, sell, sell, sell, sell, sell, you know, as much as possible. And they're selling it at this level and saying it can do things that can't. And so, you know, like we've talked about companies who are just like we're firing all our employees and turning it over to AI.
Starting point is 00:08:40 And the AI is not good enough. And there's a line in his, you know, his resignation tweet where he said, we have all witnessed the progress in. in each of these domains and progress is not slowing. And I just, like, this is what I need from the world, the world of journalism is like, give me the list of the things we've seen AI do that are impressive. I still, the number one thing is like finding the structure
Starting point is 00:09:15 of the protein. You don't like just hearing, dude, like everything. Right. It's just so vague and diffuse. Like, there's, like, the things that seem, most troubling are these stories where it's like it broke out and like hacked itself. And, um, but like, then you read more into those stories and it's like, well, they kind of gave it the parameters. They like, the exercise was like try and, you know, solve this game. And so it's
Starting point is 00:09:43 like finding solutions, but it's like, yeah, I understand why that happened. You've coded it to kind of do that. Right. And now you're acting like, oh my God, this thing's alive. And it's, It came alive on us, folks. Yeah, it's almost like you program a robot to run, but don't tell anybody, and it goes and runs. You're like, whoa, whoa, you see that? What the fuck? They just up and ran, huh?
Starting point is 00:10:04 That's crazy. I've been working on that for a while. I do foresee a future where, like, this continues to progress, and it goes in a weird direction that people hadn't foreseen. I don't think we're there yet. But this guy seems to be a very certain, that we're nearing a place that the thing he's talking about, which I, you know, I was a philosophy
Starting point is 00:10:32 major in college. And when I was doing philosophy, I studied in Ireland for a semester. And like, one of the big things that European philosophers were writing about and interested in, in the late 90s was this idea of the singularity or a AI superintelligence that like once it hits, it's a certain point. It just starts making new versions of itself that are better. And like, it's just off to the races at that point. And,
Starting point is 00:11:03 like, they were thinking about that, like, a long time ago in the world of philosophy. And he seems to be like, we're getting there. And once we're there, it's like you,
Starting point is 00:11:13 it's beyond human intervention, essentially. Sure. Sure. Yeah. Which I don't know why it would have to be, but he seems to be, having seen how,
Starting point is 00:11:24 these companies operate, he seems to be very worried that they're just like, yeah, I don't know, fuck it, let's keep going. That's what,
Starting point is 00:11:31 yeah, these tweets from Jacob Cox and this one, do not underestimate the power of this technology. These will soon be superhuman systems that can hack anything, revolutionize any field overnight, and acquire real power and resources.
Starting point is 00:11:44 The people building AI earnestly believe that it could kill us all by the end of the decade. This is not a marketing stunt. That's what I'm like, is it? Right. And then he goes on, if anything, many executives and senior researchers will couch their phrasing in the press to sound sensible. But I hear the same people express fear privately. No other human activity poses this level of danger.
Starting point is 00:12:06 I mean, I would say carbon emissions. But yes, nuclear weapons. Yeah. Because I get the marketing thing where it's like if you're dealing with like, you know, the dawn of like atomic energy. You're like this fucking thing, man. Can fucking kill everything. but if you harness it, it can,
Starting point is 00:12:23 and in the right way, it could power our future. So here's the, here's, yeah, yeah, the, like,
Starting point is 00:12:30 he, when they were making nuclear energy, they were trying to downplay the dangers. The bomb part of it. Yeah, the bomb part of it, for instance, or they were trying to,
Starting point is 00:12:39 like, normalize it. Sure. Whereas, like, that's the thing that's interesting, like, that dynamic,
Starting point is 00:12:44 he's like, they're behind closed doors, they're really worried. Sam Altman is the face of AI. Right. The very first interview, I ever read with Sam Altman in the New Yorker, like probably, probably a decade ago. He was saying, we're nearing judgment day.
Starting point is 00:13:01 I fear for the safety of my family. I sleep with a fucking, you know, a cyanide pill close by because if it happens, it's over for us and I just want to go comfortably. Like, they're not downplaying it. Like, so that's the thing. I, what he's talking about is scared. I just can't tell if it's actually as close to reach, like being within reach as he thinks, or if he is so inside a hermetically sealed AI hype bubble that he believes,
Starting point is 00:13:37 believes it's a more powerful technology than it actually is. It is, so, like, that, so he posts this and then a guy who currently works at AI, Anthropics' current staff lead on keeping the technology aligned with human goals and values, responded to the post by confirming that they, quote, really do earnestly believe AI could kill all humans. Right. So again, like, his framing is like, guys, I know what they're saying out in the public, but behind closed doors, they're really worried.
Starting point is 00:14:12 No, they're saying all that openly. Yeah, yeah. They're still saying that. In a way that doesn't make sense unless it's like kind of part of their marketing pitch in a weird way. Right. Yeah. It's God. It's very interesting because like there's also like you read other other takes from AI people to or also saying like this is this also could be a potential for a thing.
Starting point is 00:14:35 They haven't quite started working on yet but because of the progress they're seeing that maybe that's feeding this version of like alarmism. All I know is I'm so fucking tired of AI that like it was bad enough when it's like I don't know, man. It's convincing my mom everything on Pinterest is like really cool looking because we're seeing the slop everywhere. But now to move into data centers are poisoning us. They're disrupting our power grid to now, guys, this is a fuck talking about climate change,
Starting point is 00:15:09 man, this fucking thing could kill us in three years. I'm exhausted. I'm exhausted. I don't. And I'm like, and that's the thing that's a kind of a little, little alarming for me is that because of my exhaustion, I'm like, I don't know, man, yeah, maybe
Starting point is 00:15:25 I guess I feel like everything's gonna fucking kill us. Right. It's just like it's, everything that they're saying is very scary inside the AI industry. I'm just waiting for like people who to be able to put it in language that like makes sense
Starting point is 00:15:41 to outside of the AI industry. Like you use evidence because like there's another story that a JM, our research are highlighted where like they're trying to the company reportedly embraced a pre-crime
Starting point is 00:15:58 model using AI models to predict incidents before they happen and report them to cops but they just used that to report somebody who wrote something kind of negative about or no
Starting point is 00:16:14 this person said I bought an AR are 15 semiotic rifle and I have CEO, Anthropic CEO, Dario, M.O.D. in my sights. Um, and so on that one, they went to the police and we're like this, uh, we, we think this person's going to, right, to make a crime. Um, and I don't know, it's just like, like, the,
Starting point is 00:16:38 the stories of like actually what they're doing with it all just seem like such bullshit. Like, yeah, it's framed as like minority report pre-crime and it's just like, This guy made a statement to his artificial general intelligence, and we logged it because we're listening to everything. Yeah. You know what I mean? I think on a, okay, so if we live in a sane world, right? If a guy who works at Anthropic goes, guys, they're not,
Starting point is 00:17:04 they are fucking asleep at the wheel here. We have no plan for how any of these super intelligent models are going to interact with each other. And it could lead to civilizational human death extinction. Yeah. then the government, somebody with oversight power and he's like,
Starting point is 00:17:23 what the fuck are you guys doing in there? Yeah. All right. It was fine when you guys were doing your little projects in the garage and every now smoke would come in outside the door and I'd like, what are you kids doing in there? And you'd say it was fine.
Starting point is 00:17:34 But now I'm hearing that you might end the fucking world. What the fuck is going on? What do? The fuck is. Because I mean, like, that's, I think that was also terrifying about people just completely like seeding control of our futures over to like Silicon Valley people. It's like, yeah, dude, I don't know fucking burn up, burn up more fucking energy to power these computers.
Starting point is 00:17:56 And also, if we're hearing this right, completely putting us at even more increased risk. I think, I think some kind of analysis is, I think, due on some level. Even if it's not to like pump up the stock, but to be like what, you know, any rational person, if I'm a center, I'm like, What the fuck is this guy talking about Anthropic? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, let's let's have somebody who is smart but not bought into the AI bubble. Like, take a look under the hood, I guess, would be my, would be my humble request.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Yeah. Because you have like, again, there's like, there's so many. Yeah, that this is, this is caused a frenzy on the internet with people talking. Yeah. All right. Another big story having to do with civilizational. death is this. So Heretz, the Israeli news sources reporting, or I guess their reporters just published a book detailing sort of the chain of information of like warnings about the October
Starting point is 00:19:01 7th attacks and that like Netanyahu was personally warned by I think multiple sources, but definitely the president of the UAE that Hamas was planning a large scale offensive, like, literally in the weeks leading up to. And it's not just that, like, they didn't make proper, like, precautions or, you know, he didn't tell the heads of, like, security and intelligence. He didn't tell anybody. Jesus. And then when the attacks were happening, there's also, like, a lot of information coming up that, like, there were ways to kind of intervene that seemed like they weren't taken. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:48 And like Hamas reached out to Blinken and was like, you know, it seems like they were willing to return the hostages right away to start negotiations. And instead they were just like kind of stonewalled. They were like, no, we're going to hold back here. And so it's just looking at where Netanyahu's priorities were. heading into that day. Right. Like he was in a lot of political trouble when the attacks happened.
Starting point is 00:20:22 And then he was no long, you know, then he was part of an emergency government. A wartime president or genocide time president. You know, like people joke like Bush did 9-11, but like there are people who have massive incentives to have the world be more violent and chaotic. and when they are the same people who are in charge of preventing attacks, that's bad. Those incentives do not line up. And, you know, like, it takes a ton of vigilance and hard work and, you know, to, like, help prevent things like that. And so it's not that it needs to be a massive conspiracy.
Starting point is 00:21:03 It just needs to be somebody who's like, yeah, let's sit back and see what happens. One selfish asshole with enough power can completely upend, you know. the order of things. Yeah, and this is all happening in the context. This reporting is coming out in the context of Israel reportedly waiting for U.S. approval to remove Palestinians from the Gaza Strip, which they claim will be a voluntary emigration, but they also use the phrase by any means, which doesn't sound so voluntary. Yeah, again, it doesn't matter even if it's voluntary what's happening in Gaza. Like, there's no way you can then spin that into anything other than this is ethnic cleansing. Ethnic cleansing. Yeah, sure. Yeah, it'll be a voluntary program after we've absolutely
Starting point is 00:21:46 laid waste to the entire area that's uninhabitable. So, yeah, great. And then I love just that note of like, and then with the approval of the imperial power that is the United States, we can go forth with this using their reputation to further legitimize our genocidal activity. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back and we'll talk about Entrash. We'll get back. Jesus Christ. Cineas Health, where every story matters. Hey ladies, I'm Claire and I'm 52 years old. Menopause can sometimes be a real challenge. But I believe that it's time to transform this step into possibilities.
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Starting point is 00:27:02 because we were talking about great groups of four on the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles icon. And the only one we could come up with was Entourage. I felt like we really struggled. It was Matthew Mark, Paul, and Luke. Yep. And, or John. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Matthew, Mark, John and Luke. Yeah. And then Entourage, those are the only groups of four that we could think of other than the teenage reading Ninja Turtle. It sucks that Paul gets left out because he's that fifth book. Yeah. Right at the end, dude. Oh.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Missed out, dude. Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, we were talking about, you know, groups of four that are fun, like people like to be like, which one are you? Which one? Which Harry Potter house are you? Which of the sex in the city women are you? which entourage character are you
Starting point is 00:27:47 and you know everybody's either always Vince or turtle No one wants to be drama No one wants to be drama Every time I was drama Every time I'm a bit of a moron
Starting point is 00:28:02 I'm sort of the one who always fucks things up for my group of friends I'm a has been with a just indestructible ego My best days are way definitely Definitely way behind me. But anyways,
Starting point is 00:28:18 entourage star Jeremy Piven and Adrian Grenier reunite on screen after 11 years in, ad for Jake Paul's gambling app better, BETR. Oh my God. And
Starting point is 00:28:34 this this variety exclusive notes that they're not reprising their entourage roles M-Dash series creator Doug Ellen was not involved in the ad. But Piven and Grenier's on-screen dynamic is all too familiar. So just taking them at their word that, like, they're not reprising their entourage characters.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Jeremy Piven is playing his agent in the ad. So it's like, what characters are they playing? He comes in as like, hey, I got a movie for you. Jeremy Piven, okay? I'm not R.E., you know, I don't even. I don't know who that guy is. Okay. That is so fucking funny.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Adrian Grin-Yeh looks great. Oh, yeah, man. I'm like, good for you, bro. Like, sometimes these, like, white actors, they, like, you know, you remember them at their, like, you know, boyish peak, like in their late 20s, early 30s,
Starting point is 00:29:29 and they come back. Like 40s, 50s. You're like, what the fuck? God damn, bro. Sunscreen, y'all. Don't use sunscreen, please. But no. Adrian, he looks like a...
Starting point is 00:29:39 Adrian's been... Yeah. He's been taken care of his skin. Who does he look like? All right. He looks like that guy, he looks like Robert Forster. Like a young Robert Forster.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Robert Forster. You know Robert. To Google it, you'll see his face. You'll, from Jackie Brown. Oh, Jackie Brown.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Yeah, yeah. And then like him compared to this, like, Grenier, I'm like, wait, hold on,
Starting point is 00:30:05 bro, you kind of. Maybe Grangier evolves into having like a... See? He got Forster face. I see that. Forster face. Dude, you got it.
Starting point is 00:30:14 got a great career head of you, Adrian. Unless those entourage residuals are fucking still hitting. Still hitting? No. I can't imagine they are because they're doing this, but maybe the... Well, he didn't do shit for so long. I know. And then Jerry Ferrar, I mean, like, the most he did was that fat Sal's sandwich place.
Starting point is 00:30:32 I remember in L.A. Man, that seems to be doing it right. Yeah. Is he still involved with that? I can't. I only ate there once. And I got... It was like, I love junk food, but that shit was so diabolically junkie.
Starting point is 00:30:42 that I was like, I, I, it's like a sandwich with like, it's a sandwich and tender. Buffalo boneless chicken fingers.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Yeah. Uh, you, we got Ozzie sticks, bro. With mozzarella sticks on there. Popcorn, sour patch kids.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Like, what the fuck? Yeah, bro, we took a bunch of like dabbing like THC glue just melted it, glazed it on top,
Starting point is 00:31:07 bro. You're eating like 500 milligrams of THC, bro, by the end of this. Let's talk the Washington's son. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:14 No, not Donald Trump Jr. Okay. Clever. We're of course talking about the new paper that launched Wednesday as a kind of rebrand. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:31:25 because if you know, not us, news of the United States, like a nonprofit, you know, like liberal center left outlet, they have now,
Starting point is 00:31:36 they've, they're, they were in the lab and they've reemerged as the Washington's son. officially launched with a, quote, 110-person net newsroom that includes at least 28 former Washington Post journalists, which is wild. They've basically doubled their staff over the last six months, and they were just like, I think only had like 45 at the beginning of the year. But this is, I think, great news for Washington Post employees that have been through just multiple layoffs in the last couple years and what they called strategic restructurings, aka we need to abandon local news coverage and also be,
Starting point is 00:32:12 more boot licky. That's the strategy we're restructuring. Fire actual reporters and hire freelancers who can write op-eds that are in line with the Trump administration's policy. Higher sentient hairy tongues that know how to type that will just lick the boot in article form. But yeah, I think the way they're kind of looking at it is they're just taking advantage of the current media landscape that's abandoned local coverage to try something new.
Starting point is 00:32:42 this former Washington Post editor who's there described the new publication Wednesday as an experiment in whether a general interest outlet combining national and local coverage can thrive in the digital era. He goes on to say, quote, the son's success is by no means assured. And I'm like, well, that is, I like how realistic that is. Because it's true. I mean, like, we're fucking no clue. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's also like, I don't know. You never hear shit like that from in the world of like any organization in the United States because every organization is like aiming to for their like quarterly report to look as good as possible. So if it's like notice, be like yeah, I don't know. We might be fucked here, but we're going to give it a shot.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Right. If it's like the previous entity, not us, notice, NOTUS, then it would be a nonprofit, which would make sense because yeah, when you're not for profit, you can say things like, hey man i mean like this is this is going to be tricky let's let's really make a go of this we've got a good group of people here and let's see if we can provide local news to people which is a good service objectively rather than can we scale this right what are we looking what's my what's going to be my r oi on this thing we have a hit story yesterday when we reported something bad happening locally uh how do we 100 yeah how do we scale that yeah how do we scale that Do we know if that same tragedies happen in maybe like six other major metropolitan markets?
Starting point is 00:34:07 And if not, can we make it happen? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're doing local reporting everywhere? I don't know for that, for that region. Yeah, yeah, for like, because what was all like vaporized from the Washington Post sort of like local people. But then, yeah, they're doing like local sports, local news, food, weather. Which I'm sure people, because I mean, I know why my in-laws live in D.C. they're so fucking angry about the Washington Post.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Like they can't fuck. So I'm sure they're like, I have a feeling there are some people who hate what's happened to the post that we can also say, hey, we're trying to do it right over here. All right. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:34:49 What else we got? We got a follow up. A sad follow up to a story we were talking about, I think last week as Burning Man was kicking off that it's all olds now. The people who go there, like they, I think they said it was 10% people in their 20s and like massive spike in number of people attending who are in their 40s and 50s, which I mean, I guess, I guess, hey, it's us, Miles. There we are. 40s. Which I think the way the story is written is like, it's for lame old people now. But I also just think like old people are the only ones with good. enough jobs to take a week off and go do drugs in the desert.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Yeah, yeah, exactly. And also like rationalize, I've been like, no, this is actually, this is radical self-care. Like, I need to go to a cashless barter system of community, blow my brain in half. I am a spiritual warrior. I'm going to destroy my ego with psychedelics and then reemerge. Just like a real dusty guy. Be a real dusty, psychedelic warrior. Fused man.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Mad Max. Call me Mad Max. So, unfortunately, so it was reported already that two attendees had passed away and a third attendee
Starting point is 00:36:12 now has passed away. Jesus. Just days after organizers confirmed the other two guests. And according to authorities, no foul play is suspected. And there have been
Starting point is 00:36:23 fatalities of Burning Man before, but this year's total triples the, quote, average number of annual Burning Man deaths. Dang.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Which I think I don't know exactly what the weather was, but I think as the attendees are getting older, and I know where we are, the temperature seems to be getting unbearably hotter. So that can't be great to be going to the desert in August in a world where the climate is just getting hotter and hotter and hotter. Oh, I mean, then I'm like, okay, so the people that unfortunately passed away were like the first. first two were in their 50s and this third was in his 60s. But yeah, that's, be careful out there, guys.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Yeah, it's also like, I mean, I've seen like, you know, I forget, I think it was Bridget when Bridget was on and we both talked about our, our similar YouTube algorithmic love for weird body cam videos.
Starting point is 00:37:20 And I've seen ones where, like, at Burning Man, where like their security team really tries to act like they have like full on legal jurisdiction over that. and like don't like when the sheriff's department comes in to like come like investigate something. Like, oh, we have it handled. We have it handled.
Starting point is 00:37:39 And I'm a little bit like, that's a strange kind of vibe. But I also get too that sort of philosophically they're like, we don't need the fucking police here. But at times it feels like sometimes maybe that local security force is somewhat lacking or also very much incentivized to kind of like maintain the sort of perception of the festival. like kind of being completely, you know, not like that, not that there's no dark stuff going on, but it probably helps to try to solve things as much internally versus having the police involved.
Starting point is 00:38:12 For the own outward perception of the festival. I mean, so it would be a good movie. A cop trying to solve a murder that happened, a burning man, they show up and everybody's just real. They're like, sorry. I don't know what you're saying. Everything's fine here. The body is like carried out, like,
Starting point is 00:38:29 on past from hand to hand. No, that's an art piece. That's not a human. That's an art piece. That's an art piece. Yeah. All right. Well, that's going to do it for this trending episode.
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