The Daily Zeitgeist - Nepotism Saving America From Trump, Frozen 2 vs. The Irishmen? 12.3.19

Episode Date: December 3, 2019

In episode 527, Jack and special guest host Caitlin Durante are joined by comedian Tamer Kattan to discuss the weekend box office, what impeachment polls mean, some Democratic candidates no one had heard of dropping out of the 2020 race, Jared Kushner taking over the border wall project, who will take over when Queen Elizabeth retires or passes on, more shady behavior from NBC after firing Gabrielle Union, inappropriate Christmas tree ornaments on Amazon, and more!FOOTNOTES: Weekend Box Office Top Judiciary Democrat dismisses poll showing declining support for impeachment: 'Our job is to follow the facts' The Winnowing Continues With Steve Bullock And Joe Sestak Jared Kushner’s new assignment: Overseeing the construction of Trump’s border wall Jared Kushner got help from ousted WeWork CEO on Middle East peace plan: report All It Takes Is a $100 Saw To Cut Through Trump’s Big Border Wall Kids Were Asked to Play 'Build the Wall' at a White House Halloween Party White House to use webcams to create live feed of border wall construction Democratic senators introduce bill to block funding for border wall live stream Camilla next Queen: Is Queen Elizabeth II grooming Camilla to step in to support Charles? Will the Queen Really Retire When She Turns 95? Gabrielle Union’s firing from ‘America’s Got Talent’ draws celebrity condemnation and an investigation Amazon pulls Auschwitz-themed Christmas ornaments, although other Holocaust merchandise remains on site Amazon Is Used to Promote White Supremacist Merchandise and Views, Report Says Dachau Nazi Concentration Camp Puzzle On Amazon Sparks Controversy (PHOTO) (UPDATE) WATCH: DYAN - Looking For Knives (Official Video) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Nine Tit Dracula was great. Lauren D. Titanic is another favorite. And also the AKA that you sign into hotels under, the alias. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Lauren D. Titanic checking in. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented Tamara Catan. Aw, thanks.

What's up, man? Hey, man. How are you? It's so good to have you back. It's great to be back. Yeah. You look great. Thank you.

I feel great. You're wearing the holiday as well. Thank you. How was everybody's Thanksgiving? Oh, you know, it's fine. I was very grateful that day. But only that day. No others. Yeah. Any different from any other long weekends?

You guys just travel, chill? I just ate slightly more than usual. Yeah, same. It's a funny thing, right? That we allow ourselves to eat so much more on that day. We had no turkey. None. Right, which will piss off. Me either. Yeah, no turkey.

I'm sick of turkey. I'm sick of pretending to be something I'm not. Do you say that out loud? I'm proud of this. We had chicken shawarma. Oh, nice. In your face, racists. We had hummus, tabbouleh. It was great.

Oh, that sounds delicious. We had an Egyptian Thanksgiving. Hell yeah. It was great. That sounds amazing. One thing that we did that I highly recommend is in the past, I have done the honey-baked ham thing for Thanksgiving. And this year, we just honey-baked baked ham thing for Thanksgiving. And this year we just honey baked ham the whole Thanksgiving. We just went out and got the turkey too and all the sides and put them in the microwave like an hour before Thanksgiving.

Yeah. The in-laws were in town. So we did it official, but it was so easy. That's smart. Yeah. Time is currency too. Fuck all that. Yeah.

Preparation stuff. Well, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. We're going to look at what the box office looked like over the long weekend. People were concerned maybe the Irishman is going to fuck everything up for the regular box office because everybody likes to, you know, stay in and watch four-hour meditations on mortality and on the plight of the elderly, which that ends up being. We're looking, once again, at just the fact that the polls are moving for impeachment or moved before the long weekend for impeachment, but it was like after the news cycle closed down.

So nobody really talked about that. And it seems like the news cycle is still drifting along on this idea that people just like were not swayed by the impeachment hearings. And meanwhile, it's actually like near peak support for impeachment and removal. We are going to look at bombshells. Steve Bullock and Joe Sestak. Would you guys know how like what they relate to if I didn't finish the sentence that they dropped out as candidates for the 2020 Democratic. No, I thought you were talking about that movie Bombshell coming out.

We're going to look at Jared Kushner taking over his father's quest to complete the wall. I believe they have completed something like 70 feet. 32 or something. 32. Sorry, I was giving them too much credit. So 32 feet. They have miles and miles left to do. But his father-in-law is like, you know, I'll put Jared on it. We're going to do a royal check and the royals are in the news for a number of great reasons. The crown and, you know, etc. is how I'm sure they'd like us to summarize it. We're going to look at NBC continuing to drift foxward in their overall politics and their stance. They've decided to kind of stand up as the right wing mainstream media outlet, it seems like.

So we're going to talk about that briefly. And, of course, the Christmas ornament from Amazon, the Auschwitz themed Christmas ornament that got taken down. But this is part of a long tradition. So we'll talk about that. But first, Tamer, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? It's funny that you mentioned. I actually recently looked up the origins of the Statue of Liberty and it was an Egyptian woman. Was it? Yeah, it is designed after an Egyptian

woman who was originally supposed to be built for the Suez Canal and the designer when he started researching Egypt was blown away by the pyramids and stuff and then he saw an Egyptian peasant woman and designed the Statue of Liberty. She was supposed to stand at the front of the Suez Canal, the south side holding a torch. Oh, wow. And then so in your face, Trump, no matter how hard you try, we are in the DNA of this country. Right.

And I want more people to know that. So when they come into American port, they go, oh, that's not just a woman holding a torch. That's an immigrant. Yeah. That's an immigrant woman and a poor immigrant woman too. Right. So yeah, that was a happy search history.

Yeah. That's awesome. What is something you think is underrated? I think Bernie Sanders is grossly underrated. I think he's added some spice to his rice. Now who's that? You think he's added some spice to his rice? I like that.

I think there's a funny, I don't think age matters. I think life force matters. Like if you look at Bloomberg, you know, Bloomberg is just a couple months younger than Bernie, but he's got a bigger life force. You know, he's got this energy about him. And I think Bernie's figured out that he's got to tap into some of that.

And I think he's done a good job so far. I think he's- Wait, you think Bloomberg has more life than Bernie? I think his energy, the way he speaks and stuff, for sure. He looks like a more solid person, but I think Bernie's upped his game a little bit. Okay. Bernie used to come up and look a little frazzled sometimes. Oh, yeah, for sure. It was a bummer.

And there is such a thing as ageism. It really happens. Yeah. And I think he's stepped up his game a little bit. Yeah. Do you think he maybe, like, even though he doesn't hang around with a lot of billionaires, do you think he started practicing some of the billionaire's habits of like transfusing the blood of children and like into his veins or how do you think he pulled it off no you know i think he's one of

those people that's that's been pointed at true north since he was a young guy he's i think he's the person that got bit by a vampire but stayed a a human. Like when I look at, I think power is the real drug. That should be the drug we have a war on. Because anytime somebody has too much power, they become corrupt. That's why so many famous people are upsetting us now. People that we thought were heroes, they had too much power. Oh, I can't wait for that to happen to me. Right?

It is getting corrupted by power. It's a sexy thing to have happen. But I think we need to start treating power like that. If you can't have more than two drinks to drive a car, you shouldn't make more than $2 million a year to steer a country. You're not connected to human beings anymore. And I think Bernie's done a good job staying amongst the people and being more like a vampire in Seattle than one in Transylvania. Yeah. That's a really good point about the $2 million and even the difference between $2 million a year, which is too much money for anyone to make, and what Michael Bloomberg has is

shocking. It is shocking. We did some stat about how a millionaire is the equivalent of five minutes and a billionaire is the equivalent of three weeks or something like that. And it's a legitimate thing. It does change people. Oh, there's literally a course case, a case in the legal system about a kid who claimed affluenza. Yeah. It was like a disease from having too much money. Yeah. Like it's, I think people are going to dig more into it when I, I think we're going to find out it does change people. Yeah. I think people are going to dig more into it. I think we're going to find out it does change people. Yeah. I think probably in different ways. Like the affluenza kid, I think, was just like, I never knew there were such things as consequences.

I was sheltered from an early age. Whereas I think we're also talking about like some weird like life force draining energy vampire. A nine-tit Dracula. Nine- tit Dracula having my OCD my OCD makes me hate that Dracula so much more

than an eight titted Dracula you're like why are they body shaming much right oh that extra boob just drives me crazy

it's in a circle so it's not as though like one's lopsided like one of the sides is lopsided it's like a a so it's not as though like one like one's lopsided like one of the sides is lopsided it's like a a circle of of nine breasts

yes I'll accept it very satanic very satanic wait Jack what was that like five minutes versus three weeks

I need to look it up it's it's somebody tweeted it and it's like stuck in my mind forever and we talked about it

on a recent episode but it's basically like if you convert dollars to seconds a million a million seconds is the equivalent of like 12 days is a million seconds 33 years is a billion seconds so it's like that's how long you're allowed to live if you have that much money well yeah think about it i mean that's eventually probably going to be the case i mean that movie in time starring Justin Timberlake, ever seen it? Right.

But I mean, they're all trying to live forever, all the billionaires. They're trying to find ways to preserve their being, upload their consciousness to the web. I don't know. I called Baby Yoda, Baby Yoga. A hopelessly old, irrelevant- Baby Bikram Yoga. Super producer Anna Hosnier informed me that her and her boyfriend have been just laughing at me over the long weekend for saying that.

And rightly so. I think it's definitely the most old dad thing I've ever said. And they got this, what is it, kids with the baby yoga? All right. What is something you think is overrated? For sure, Turkey. Overrated. Turkey.

And this is the first year where I claim my identity back. All my life, I've come to America with my weird Egyptian food, and I've had American kids mock me about my moussaka, about my tabbouleh, about my hummus, and you know what? You have gross things too, and one of them is turkey. I remember writing letters to my cousin in Egypt going,

look at what these people eat. And he's like, what's a turkey? What does it even look like? I sent a picture. He wrote back a three page letter. Start to bottom a three-page letter. Start to bottom, the word, ew. So gross. It's a flying ball sack is what it is. It's the most disgusting.

Who eats that? A lot of people. I'd rather have moussaka. Thank you very much. Yeah, same. Yeah. Also, sorry, going back to your underrated on Bernie Sanders, the spice in his rice thing, somebody was talking about. So we covered the fact that Deval Patrick had a event at Morehouse State, I think, canceled because only two people showed up.

And those two people were like, yeah, we were just curious to see if anyone would show up. And so like on his way to the event, he like canceled it. And so like on his way to the event, he like canceled it. But Bernie Sanders had had like a huge rally at that same college like two days earlier. So, you know, the idea that Bernie Sanders is only for white dudes, I think, is changing this time around a little bit. And finally. Thank you, Cardi B. Exactly.

Exactly. Exactly. Uh, what, finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true, you know, to be false. I don't want to be too political. Can I be political? Oh yeah. I don't think Trump is a real person. Like, like, I don't know.

Um, I think we're, here's what I, I think we're in a war right now. And I think Trump is a Russian operative. I really do. Wow. I think, and, and people can say what and I think Trump is a Russian operative. I really do. Wow. And people can say what they want to say, but there's people out there who think the earth is flat. So I think he's a Russian operative. I think people are not paying attention to things that are happening. When we left Afghanistan, Putin walked in and took over the military base that we built.

It's now Russian operated. There's so many connections between him and Putin. It's not just that he's a bad president. He is a traitor and he's probably the most successful traitor we've ever had in the history of mankind. Yeah. DJ Danil happens to agree with you. It is one of those things that when you say it, it's like people on both sides are like, all right, man, like, Trump's a Russian spy. And like that, that has become like a, a cliche thing to say and like, to make fun of as a diluted perspective, because I think there are some people on the,

in the liberal side of the political equation who have decided that you know russia hacked the election and that's why hillary lost and we don't have to change anything about the democratic party because it was just russia cheating and that like so let's uh just solve this crime and everything can go back to normal and i don't think that is necessary. Like you don't have to believe that to also just look at the evidence of all the ways that Trump is acting in the interests of Russia, that like military, like leaders are all just like,

man, this is totally, that's absolutely right. That's absolutely right. I think I was in Santa Monica yesterday on third street promenade during the holiday season. And there was the most- You saw Trump and Putin meeting?

No, but I saw the most militarized police truck I've ever seen in my life in Santa Monica. And I'm like, what's going on? After seeing what's happening in Hong Kong, these are governments taking major oversteps into our freedoms. And we shouldn't be focused on Democrat, Republican. We should be focused on people versus government. That's the problem. Look at Hong Kong. Hong Kong is us.

That's what's freaking me out right now. So it's not just about Trump and it's not Democrat or Republican. It's about governments. He's changed the water in DC. And politicians now on both sides are starting to feel like they can do more to us without us biting back. And it's time to sharpen our teeth.

Yeah. Hell yeah, man. You should run for something. Totally going to get followed. I'm already being followed by TSA agents constantly. TSA agents. In the airport. And now they're going to... At least they stuck you with a tale that probably gives up after 15 minutes. They're like, I got to go on break, man. I got the stupid comedy calendar. People know where I am all the time.

My life is a nightmare. Have you gotten more tattoos since you were in last year? I have dope tattoos. Thank you. Everybody should check out our Instagram. No, I didn't get more. I usually, most of my tattoos always, ever since I was a kid, they're memorials.

So no one's died, thank goodness. Oh, wow. There's only one that I got that it wasn't a memorial. And it was this one. On the 11th day of February, 2011, I was in Egypt performing for the protesters when a guy tried to stab me. Oh, shit. And I was an Egyptian in Egypt. And to me, that was like the death of me thinking I was just an Egyptian.

I'm not Egyptian anymore. I'm an Egyptian American. That's a whole other entity. Holy shit. That's the only other thing. It's not a human death. Yeah. When we come back, we'll talk about the box office.

But just on the subject of the Irishman, that's actually something that kind of runs throughout because the story weaves into the topic ofmy hoffa who was uh according to robert de niro's character frank sheeran he was bigger than elvis in the 50s he's bigger than the beatles in the 60s which probably is true for like a small portion of the population i don't know if it was true for uh everyone in america but he is you know frequently giving. He was this really powerful figure who was frequently giving speeches about how the people need to unite. The people and the workers need to unite

against capital and the government, right? Solidarity. Yeah, solidarity, class solidarity. And that is something, that's a concept that just completely evaporated. Like during the 80s, Reagan just basically killed the unions. And I do wonder, you know, how much the fact that the only thing we know Jimmy Hoffa as today is that guy who disappeared, who might be buried under like you name it, just like an urban legend. you name it, just like an urban legend,

how much of that is just the fact that labor is no longer even a concept to us. I wasn't even raised with a concept of labor solidarity and working class solidarity. That's so true. Yeah. All right. Well, we'll get more into the Irishman and more into the weekend box office

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And we're back. And Tamara, you just told Anna that your mom says Happy Thanksgiving. Your mom and super producer a Hosni are acquainted. Yes, they are. Yeah. That's, I just think that's very cool.

All right, let's talk about movies. And Anna said, yeah, I just messaged her. Like it was like her homie. So let's talk about movies this weekend. Did you guys watch many movies this weekend?

Any movies this weekend? I saw a few. Over the long weekend? I saw Knives Out. Oh, shit. I want to see that. I really want to see that. I really liked it.

Big fan. I'm going to go see it again. That actually had a big, it overperformed expectations. It made like $41 million at the box office, which for a movie that wasn't like previously existing IP and is like an adult movie for adults about adult things, I think Hollywood was like, what the fuck? How is this happening? I mean, it was marketed well. Like that trailer was like, ooh, I want to see that. I think he also has like a, I think maybe The Last Jedi probably threw people off the scent a little bit because he, it was like this massive blockbuster. But I think he is like one of the few filmmakers like, you know, Jordan Peele and like a couple other filmmakers who is a draw in and of himself

because his movies are just generally interesting. Sure. So that's a good one. I have not seen it. We'll give people a little time to see it. We also watched, I think all three of us saw The Irishman. I haven't seen it yet. Oh, you didn't see it?

No, I didn't see it. Okay, got it. Because it's not a man who was bitten by a radioactive Irish. Oh, right. So I'm not going to see it. So you're refusing on those grounds? Yeah. Well, usually, well, if I do see it, I'll hate it because it's not about that.

So I might see it. Even though you know that, you'll keep waiting for that i'm gonna wait for the moment when the irish person who is radioactive bites a man yes and until that happens i'll hate it yeah i mean it would explain what happened to robert de niro's eyes uh because he has uh i don't know if you've ever seen Black Sunday, the Johnny Depp movie about Whitey Bulger. Oh, Black Mass? Black. Wait, is it called Black Sunday?

It's definitely not called Black Sunday. Is it called Baby Yoga? It's called Baby Yoga. No, it's called Black Mass. Okay. Have you seen that? I have not seen it. He is terrifying looking and they they give him these like weird blue eyes that are clearly

done in some sort of post effect. But De Niro has the same thing going on throughout this movie. It's not enough to like distract you. But Tamara, you saw The Irishman. You liked it? I did. Surprisingly, because I have aman. You liked it. I did. Surprisingly, because I have a really complicated relationship

with masculinity. Yeah. I grew up with a dad that was physically abusive and then I grew up in a boxing gym where I was hung around with a lot of meatheads and stuff. And at a time when boys don't cry was like the statement du jour. You know what I mean?

I used to joke that the first time my dad said, stop crying, be a man, was after a doctor slapped me and said, it's a boy. So I've always had this complex relationship with it. And I always thought of Scorsese after Taxi Driver. He was categorized as violence porn. But then I saw this movie with a friend. It was daytime.

It was at IFC Theater. It was in the village. I'm like, this is a perfect place to see it. Why not? Let's go see it theater style. And I thought three and a half hours was too long. And three and a half hours plus Scorsese felt heavy to me. And I was even pre-planning out my pee breaks.

And I didn't, man. I sat through it and there was this really nice additional element of like almost comedic like ingredients with like the way he used fashion and music and really subtle like black belt level acting yeah with the the way they played off of each other it was like watching the harlem globetrotters but with human dynamics yeah they were so on their a-game and it was i don't see old guys like that and then the nice thing was, even though there was violence and even though there was like a lot of this machismo throughout the film, it showed a vulnerability that I haven't seen in a Scorsese film before about

masculinity and about life. And it was a little deeper. It really felt like something he would do in the final chapters of his life. Yeah. I definitely think it's worth seeing, but I will say that. And it's awesome to see Joe Pesci back again. Cause he hasn't been in movies for a while. And it was a different Joe Pesci too. I felt like. It was like,

he was very handsome and winning and like sort of the guy, like instead of being like sort of the somewhat damaged, you know, sidekick or, you know, like guy overcompensating for something. He was just like smooth operator Joe Pesci. Totally smooth and wise. Like it was a calm Joe Pesci,

which was a nice surprise. Yeah. Because he's been working on his music career. That's right. I mean, he's got bars. Yeah. He's got bars. Yeah. He's got bars. Frozen 2 has continued.

That's another kind of piece of box office information from over the long weekend is that Frozen 2 has continued to dominate. Now is officially another kind of global phenomenon, just like the first one. I saw it. You did? Uh-huh. What'd you think? It's fine. Right.

So that's the range of responses from adults that I've heard is that it's fine down to it's bad. And from adults about how their kids experienced the movie, it was like, I don't, it seemed like it wasn't made for them necessarily or like it had like weird concepts that weren't necessarily going to like resonate with children yeah yeah um i described it as um the fifth element meets annihilation right because they go into this like annihilation uh shimmer right and there's a shimmer there's a shimmer sounds almost like it's like the matrix equals like levels of like metaphysical

things like happening like metaphysical made physical physical made metaphysical in the shimmer they have to figure out like what's this mysterious like presence that is um summoning elsa and it turns out there there's a whole fifth element storyline that it's like yeah i can see it very much not resonating i was sitting next to two children on either side of me neither of them were mine right i don't have any children right um and i feel like they were like not really into it or they weren't quite getting what was happening. And then the songs were, I would say, on the whole, better than the songs from the first movie. But they attempted to do another like big Let It Go number. And it just, the Let It Go song in this one didn't measure up, I think.

Right. Yeah. Let It Snow song in this one didn't measure up, I think. Right. Yeah. Let It Snow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let It Blow. And then there's like this weird, there's like a subplot where the dude, Christoph, I think is his name. Yeah. The guy who wants to fuck his reindeer, by the way.

Right. That's like a story, right? That he has a relationship with his reindeer that his like troll family don't ask uh finds a little bit like weird they're like ah this guy yeah i didn't remember that from the first one but then that carries over into the second movie and there's like a moment when i straight up thought he was about to fuck his rain he like looks at his reindeer and then he's like i like reindeer better than i like people and i'm like oh my god he's about to like kiss his reindeer um but then he's actually like working up the nerve to ask uh anna or anna or whatever

that character's name is to marry him and like that's a whole subplot and i'm just like this it's it was okay but i didn't uh i didn't like it that much a whole subplot. And I'm just like, it was okay, but I didn't like it that much. I actually watched the first one over the weekend with my three-year-old who claimed he had seen it, but I realized halfway through he had just seen the YouTube clip of Let It Go a number of times. And like, he really enjoyed it. He loved it. But my theory with these movies has always been it's becoming massive on the strength of it being the first movie for young women based on the most important and identifiable relationship they have in their lives, which is their relationship with other young women in the face of impossible social standards and men who are constantly trying to seduce and murder them. It's like all Disney movies up to that point, including this one, had been written by men as like, okay, the woman then needs a man

to come in and save her. And this one, by accident, it was going to be that. And then they wrote Let It Go and the song was so good. They were like, shit, Elsa needs to be a protagonist too. And so they rewrote it to be about Elsa and Anna as the protagonists and made the love interest like have a turn at the end. Spoiler alert for the first Frozen. But I think that just like that idea that they accidentally stumbled on because Let It Go was so good is still kind of carrying these movies that seem to be, based on what everybody's saying, somewhat flawed movies in terms of like what they deliver in terms of just sheer like movie going experience.

It kind of carries them through to be like these massive global uh phenomena it's awesome you guys both saw it with kids like that's the main reason why i can't see i feel like movie theater should have like child caddies like you're a single guy and you want to see a disney movie they're like would you like a child you can you like a child to see this one? You can't see it alone, buddy. It's too weird. I'll take the Latino boy. That happened to me with the Lego movie. And I immediately went home and started having kids. Really?

To make sure it never happened again. Yeah. I felt too awkward. Bring your own cat. Yeah, exactly. Made my own child catty. Well, check out the episode on Frozen of the Bechdel cast. Yes, you definitely should.

Where we talked about it. Thank you so much. Yeah. For people who don't know, Caitlin hosts one of the most popular, best podcasts on our network, the Bechdel cast. Oh, wow. Thank you. Which is each episode, you guys break down a movie from a feminist perspective. Indeed. Yeah.

perspective indeed yeah uh and and i mean movies like frozen are marking this like trend toward you know more feminist films uh and though that movie like did everything by accident kind of uh but it was it was well received so um and then you know after that we got Moana and all these other properties that do have more feminist undertones or overtones in them. So we're seeing a trend toward more progressive representation. People get mad at me for not mentioning Brave, which apparently was the first woman protagonist. Yeah, in a Pixar movie. We just released an episode on it. How do the themes of that movie hold up next to the feminist text that is Frozen? Right.

Pretty well. I mean, and that was 2012 before anyone was really attempting to do anything super feminist, at least in the mainstream and especially in like Pixar things. But because it was like a woman at the helm of that movie, it was, you know, her story, it was based on, you know, her relationship with her daughter. She got taken off the project because John Lasseter is a piece of shit. Right. But yeah, it was like her kind of calling the creative shots for the most part. Uh, and, uh, that's why we like have this nice movie about a mother daughter relationship and this, you know, like strong female protagonist and all that. Yeah.

That's awesome. I think it holds up pretty well. Um, all right, let's talk, let's check in with the political world real quick, guys. Uh, the polls, uh, prior to the long weekend started moving. I think it's basically there's a week lag built into the polls, like a week-long seven-day lag built into the polls because you need to poll people on how they're feeling, and it takes about seven days to complete a worthy poll. But that's not a thing that the media likes to acknowledge because then it just kind of makes them look less relevant.

So there was like as like Wednesday happened, FiveThirtyEight finally started registering some of those polls and people's opinions moved back to where they were when the call memo slash transcript was first released, which was kind of the height of thinking that the president should be impeached and removed from office. But so I, you know, we talked about this before on yesterday's episode, but it still doesn't seem like it's kind of being registered in the mainstream media. I'm not sure if it's like a cocktail of Thanksgiving hangover and it being old news by the time the journalists get back to their desk. But it seems like people are still just kind of coasting off of that.

Well, what are the Democrats going to do now? Because they don't have all the evidence they need or are the Democrats going to do now? Because they don't, you know, they don't have all the evidence they need or do the Democrats have the evidence they need? And it's just... It's democracy. It's not Burger King. Right.

You can't have it your way. The guy's a criminal and there's evidence pointed towards him so that public opinion doesn't matter. Right. The court's opinion does. I'm tired of like the media treating our politics like it's a popularity contest.

I love high school in the 90s. Right. Do you know what I mean? Like what's right? We have to focus on what's right. He's a criminal. There's evidence against him being a criminal. And I don't care how snowflake conservatives feel. No, I would agree with that. I also think that the focus on the public opinion is basically, you know, the Republicans are looking at that as to like from the Senate side, whether it's going to like whether it's going to be unpopular for them and for their party to just actually have him removed from office. I think that needs to be the message that Republican senators get is that like it's bad for their party long term and short term for them to just be like, no, whatever. He can do whatever he wants, which I think is the actual truth of it. It's just a matter of like, whether we can get to that truth through all the, you know, Fox news spinning and all the bullshit. I think he's getting progressively more and more dangerous because as you get more and more power,

he's getting more and more drunk. Yes. So his, his actions are becoming even more and more erratic. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like it's, I,

I, it's such a problem. Yeah. Especially for an Egyptian. Sorry to say that, but I mean? Like it's such a problem. Yeah. Especially for an Egyptian. Sorry to say that. But I mean, just one last quick thing is I think a lot of people don't realize that for people who immigrated here from countries where we had dictators, we had people that would like praise other dictators. You're giving away your freedom. Right.

It's not, this isn't about right or left or about who wins this or that. isn't about right or left or about who wins this or that. You're giving away your freedom and you're allowing politicians, not just him, but every politician watching him who wants to be a politician to go, I can manipulate the public. I can become president and then make money off of it and scam people and use mob-like behaviors. It's terrible. Yeah. I mean, is that something that you recognize from like the rise of dictators?

A hundred percent. Leaving Egypt was like leaving an abusive alcoholic father. Yeah. And then I came to America and it was Brady Bunch Dad. Right. And now all of a sudden Brady Bunch Dad has alcohol in his breath. And I'm like, I've smelled that before. Yeah.

I've smelled that before. And I know that smell. And people who are American citizens should talk to people that have had dictators in their country and say, what does he smell like? Yeah. I've talked about this before on the show, but I read a old report from somebody who was an expert on the rise of Nazism in Germany. And they said that alarm bells started going off in their head when Republicans began opposing Obamacare on just purely ideological grounds. And just like it wasn't based on any like basis in reality or like what, you know, what the strength of the arguments was. It was just this purely ideological thing that, I don't know, it seems like people who pay attention to history

are all like of that same mind. 100%. As people who grew up around dictators. That's right. It's like, this is a really slippery slope. Yeah. And we're just kind of ignoring it. 100%.

My grandfather used to say, history may not repeat itself, but it sure does rhyme. Right. It's this old quote that he heard. So he said, the way you need to look at history books is like a farmer's almanac. Not like an old book, not like old things that happen, but new things that can. That's the reason why you should read this. A projection of events to come.

Because we're predictable. We're still the same human beings. We still have the same software in our brains. Steve Bullock and Joe Sestak dropped out of the 2020 Democratic race. Just kidding. Oh, those guys. I know them. Yeah.

Now that we recognize their name from the recap, that seems like big news. But none of us know who these people are, so I won't even like, it just seems like this is a commentary on how unnecessarily full the Democratic field was already in the first place before, you know, Bloomberg. I was going to vote for them. Damn it. Both of them. I love Michael. Michael. Just other random.

Steve, Joe Joe Michael. So kind of big news that's not being covered as much is that Jared Kushner is now taking over the border wall project. So, yeah, there, that should do it. He recently, you know, nailed the Middle East peace plan. I think we've achieved peace in the Middle East. And so now Trump has brought in Kushner and Kushner immediately enlisted the help of WeWork founder and colossal douchebag Adam Neumann to like give him advice on how he should get this wall built. Or actually, I think he asked Adam Neumann for advice on the Middle East. And Neumann bragged to people that Kushner and Mohammed bin Salman would save the world with his advice. And when people were like, MBS just murdered a journalist, he was like,

yeah, he just needs the right mentor, which is such a douchey tech industry thing. Mentorship is the most important force out there. So after three years of doing that, Trump moved him over to the Wall Project because the only new stretch of wall they've built since he was elected on build that wall chance is 32 feet long. Yeah, but it's like 500

feet high. So they've actually done a lot. It's actually not. And what they erected can be cut through easily with a saw that costs less than $100. Trump's walls is as effective as those cowboy hat toilet paper things right we sit on in public restrooms well speaking of an sti won't seep through this paper speaking of paper uh the the most successful stretch of trump's border wall or at least the longest was actually one made by children out of craft paper uh during the white house halloween party that's so they actually had

paper mache paper it was just like pieces of brick colored paper that were stretched across the wall in the white house around the words build that wall with like messages from children written on it but what could the messages be that like yeah president trump let's be racist like there's literally no teachable skill that's being honed there wait can we zoom in on this photo i don't know let's see i i wasn't able to find a zoomed in picture yeah uh It also could just all be things that the White House interns like built to make it look like they had the support of the fifth grade demographic.

I zoomed in on one and it said, dear Mr. President, your hair tastes like cotton candy. So anyways, it seems like Kushner really has his work cut out for him in order to meet his goal of around 400 miles by the election. Again, they've built 32 feet in three years. He's going to build 400 miles in the next 12 months. They will have to accelerate the work, according to Kushner,

at least fourfold, which is a lot that also would only leave you with less than a mile. But the government will have to obtain hundreds of privately owned parcels of land in Texas, then build on the land in a year. And that's like the technical difficulty that, you know, it's basically another intractable problem that Trump is just like, well, my son-in-law is a genius because Ivanka tells me he's a genius. So I'm just going to throw him at the problem. And then when he says he did a good job, I will assume the problem has been solved. Because that was the promise, right? In three years, I will build 400 feet of walls.

Yeah, exactly. Except you 440 miles or 400 miles uh he's also just frustrating the hell out of people who are already working on it because he came in and was like all right here's how we're gonna do things we're gonna go faster and they're like okay just move faster uh and yeah they're just annoyed because he has no knowledge or experience uh has no idea about how the government would go about procuring those lands uh that they need to procure uh he believes that uh they should start live streaming the building of the wall which would not be popular with the construction companies because that is, you know, it's like being nanny stated and also like would give away, you know, their techniques of how they were building it. Also just boring.

Yeah. If I want to watch a wall being built, I want it to be exciting. Yeah. watch a wall being built. I want it to be exciting. Yeah. And the other main problem with the project as far as it's being headed up, uh, like all projects for the past three years by somebody who changes his mind

constantly and is, you know, won over by these like fifth grade notions that you should build a big ditch with pointy spikes and paint the wall black. So it'll be hot to the touch. These are all Trump ideas. Um, so yeah it's all just kind of a complete mess uh no one actually seems to want this to happen other than trump and trump doesn't even really want it to happen he just knows that his base will hold him to it

in the next election uh but he's also been caught saying behind like off the record that he's doesn't give a shit about the wall but that like his base wants it and there's also the matter of working with construction contractors who if trump cared about how contractors felt that he would have paid them at some point in the past uh It doesn't have a long history of like, Oh yeah. Contracting work and then never paying for it. Never ever pays unless you take him to court, in which case he will draw it out and extended legal battles and make it cost

you money to get paid money. And yeah, he has made some pretty impressive walls, like the wall that now exists between us and our allies. Yeah. The wall that now exists between Americans that were once neighbors. Yeah. Between decency and what's right.

Yeah. He's been playing. At Thanksgiving tables. At Thanksgiving tables. Exactly. Um, there's, there's one other problem with the border wall that I hadn't actually thought

about is that they're trying to build it on the border, but, uh, U S crews can't go into Mexican territory. Like, so if they're live streaming it, like they would be constantly breaking the law because they're having to like go on both sides.

You can't just build the wall from one side. You need like workers on both sides of the wall. And like, you need them to have the freedom to go from one side of the project to the other. so that's, they, You need them to have the freedom to go from one side of the project to the other. So they would be illegally crossing the border thousands of times on a live screen. The border's not a real thing, too. It's almost like when you're a kid and you're like, that's hot lava.

It's like somebody goes, that's Mexico. It's all fake. It's all fake. Yeah. It's not real. And because of all these concerns, Kushner has continued to push forward with a 24-hour camera wall idea. Anyways, so it'll be interesting and we will keep tabs on it because surely it will be the next project and problem that they solve for all Americans. We're going to take one more break and we'll be right back. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life

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And that is the Royals, the British Royal family. I've been hearing them talk about it because of The Crown, which just dropped its third season. First season with its new cast with Olivia Colman and other people. But Olivia Colman playing the queen. She's always playing a queen. Always playing the queen. The favorite, hello. I know, she was so good in that.

So that's big news. And apparently she, in this season, is sort of hardening into the sort of stoic, meanie who killed Princess Di. I don't know. That's a wild conspiracy theory. But there's also a new article that Camilla, Prince Charles's wife, who- His wife.

His wife is being groomed to be the next queen. So this is something I didn't know, guys. Queen Elizabeth's husband is a prince because he was not born in England. He's Greek. And so they're like, oh, God, what are you doing? So he has no claim to any power. He can't become king. But if Prince Charles becomes king after the queen passes on,

his wife would be able to be queen because she was born in england and has like vague uh royal connections and so the duchess yeah the duchess of something or other so the reason i think she is the duchess is possibly by marriage from her first marriage I don't know this could be totally wrong but so an interesting thing about her and Prince Charles is that like they have been in love since they were like children and then

like the Queen split them up and like sent him to his like royal military service in Costa Rica and like her elders married her off because they didn't think she was like worthy of the, of the crown. And so this is like part of a long ongoing story that.

You know, what's crazy about it. This story makes me think of how phenomenal Prince the musician was. Every time you say the word Prince, my brain has to go, not that Prince, not that one. That's how big of an impact he's had on my life. And then you have to downgrade to a royal prince. An actual royal prince. It's unbelievable.

Yeah, way cooler. Our prince is way cooler than yours, England. For sure. Unfortunately. cooler. Our prince is way cooler than yours, England. For sure. Unfortunately. But yeah, so there's all sorts of intrigue about what will happen when Queen Elizabeth

retires or passes away. And then there's also the Prince Andrew stuff, which I don't know if you guys, you seen this? You heard about this? I haven't heard about it. Yeah. So he's a pervert. Uh-oh. Who was all over that Lolita Express and Little St. Jeffrey Island.

Did you guys see the pictures of that island? No. It's so gross. It's gross, but it's also the island looks really nice. Yeah, yeah. And that's what's important. And that is what's important. I mean, the real estate value on that, you guys, you have to understand.

What a difference Prince Andrew would make if he was Prince Andy. It's like putting shorts on cops. Right. Like, ah, I know you're still an authority figure, but you're cute now. Yeah.

Shorts really do undermine. I try to wear shorts once to work and people just wouldn't even look at me. When I tried to like make meetings with them. They're like the blonde mustache of clothes. The blonde mustache. There's a whole beat in The Irishman about the lack of seriousness

of somebody wearing shorts. Somebody tries to meet with Hoffa and wear shorts to a meeting and it doesn't go well. There's a stand-up comedy book called Don't Wear Shorts on Stage because people won't take you seriously as a comedian if you're wearing shorts.

No one wants to see your legs. Yeah, I'm trying to think if I've ever seen a comedian wear shorts. Oh, I've seen it. I've seen it, but it's, I'm like... It's not good. Especially in certain communities like Florida, some of the resort communities,

you'll see comics in shorts. I'm like, I'm very uncomfortable. That's funny that I haven't seen it because resort communities are where most of my favorite comedians perform. Oh, yeah. I'm a huge fan of the resort circuit. So checking in with the NBC story, there's additional details coming out about Gabrielle Union's, her time hosting America's Got Talent after she was fired recently, I think the last couple weeks. So she said that Jay Leno made a racist joke about Koreans eating cats.

She complained and they fired her. Yikes. The timing kind of lined up. She also said that she was told her hair was too black and she did a uh quote honkify it no that's not nobody said honkify it but they did say her hair was too black and yeah it's just it just generally sounds like i don't know nbc just sounds so fucking toxic like at every level uh every behind the scenes story that comes out. Like there was all of the Ronan Farrow stories where he was trying to break the Weinstein story at NBC News.

And they were just, you know, shooting holes in it from every angle, like just trying to take it down. And then I was just talking about how their headlines seem to be drifting sort of rightward in there. You know, they wrote the famous headline that the first day of impeachment hearings lacked pizzazz. Lacked the pizzazz that was going to capture America's imagination. Unbelievable. how firing the people, the perpetrators in the Me Too movement wasn't going to solve everyone's problem. So just interesting. Keep an eye on NBC, you guys.

And finally, I wanted to talk to you guys about Amazon. This is sort of part of an ongoing story. The nicest company who does all the good stuff yeah uh so there's an ongoing trend of people just finding the most fucked up things on amazon stores we did a story a couple months ago about how there are all sorts of dangerous children's toys uh that you can find on Amazon. But somebody recently found a Auschwitz-themed Christmas ornament. That, yeah.

So lame. And I mean, there's some terrible Christmas ornaments on the internet. There's one for a Kiss tour bus that you can find. Speak for yourself. I own it and I love it.

But. I mean, who wouldn't want Santa delivering presents below a tiny replica of the place where 70-year-old Jen Simmons gives women vintage UTIs. But there's also this year's ornament from the NRA featuring a Christmas tree inside a cozy house with just national rifle association written under it. But the product that really caught people's attention along with a similar bottle opener was this like Auschwitz themed Christmas ornament. Yikes.

And yeah, the Auschwitz Memorial tweeted, selling quote Christmas ornaments with images of Auschwitz does not seem appropriate. Auschwitz on a bottle opener is rather disturbing and disrespectful. We ask Amazon to remove the items of those suppliers. And they did remove them. Okay. to remove the items of those suppliers.

And they did remove them. But this is sort of part of a long-term trend of Amazon going viral for not screening the shit that they sell in their store, taking it down and then doing literally nothing to change their process. There was a story that went viral where they were selling Nazi flags and a shirt that said i love himmler and somebody complained to them in in a message and they responded we're

like we'll take it down we'll take it down and then a week later that person got an ad on amazon that was like you might might like this Nazi flag. There's also a jigsaw puzzle of Dachau. Wow. Yeah. And a t-shirt that says, I love Heinrich Himmler. I take back what I said about him. That was the nicest.

But they're so good to their workers. Let them have their things. As a half Jew, let them have their things. I think hate creates cancer. And these people want that kind of thing have their things. As a half Jew, let them have their things. I think hate creates cancer. And these people want that kind of thing in their house if they think that makes me a good person. Like there's a guy on my blog named Mike. I don't like Mike.

Right. But his dad passed away recently. I'm not going to put up signs that say, hey, Mike's dad's dead. Right. Because I'm not a piece of shit person. Yeah. You know what I mean?

These racists are basically saying, it's not that they're racist. It's that they're piece of shit person. You know what I mean? These racists are basically saying, it's not that they're racist. It's that they're piece of shit people. They're bad people. Nobody wants to live next to them, not even good white people. So let them have their ornaments so they can be reminded of their disgusting hate

and let it eat away at themselves. I hope they get cancer and die. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure this isn't good for the soul. Maybe it's like a screen like they are put there as bait so that we can figure out who the awful people are who are buying these things and i don't know what would be done about that it's like when you pee in a pool and it turns purple all around you yeah we should have like uh nazi booby traps right and then these

guys are surrounded by swastika-colored purple water. But guys, you would be violating their freedom of speech. Oh, shoot. Yeah, apparently Amazon has policies that prohibit hate speech, and that policy applies to everything except books, music, video, and DVD. Okay. So there's a ton of white supremacist literature available through Amazon.

That's when you're too drunk. See, like I think when you're a cop and you tell people you can't drive, they make you try to touch the tip of your nose. I think with people that make too much money, that have too much wealth in this country, we should ask them, what's more important, people or money?

If they say money, they're too drunk. Right. They're too drunk to communicate to people. But they would never, they know not to say money. Well, we can trick them. Yeah. They're very trickable because they're too drunk right they're too drunk to communicate but they would never they know not to say money well we can trick them yeah they're very trickable because they're drunk right but they yeah i this is one of those things where they are clearly slurring their words and people are just like yeah that's fine that's it is what it is or i guess people are just so used to the person being uh money drunk because yeah amazon isn isn't changing anything and they just don't seem to have the incentive.

I mean, like for a company that has as much money as they do, for a CEO who has as much money as Jeff Bezos, although, you know, our thoughts and prayers go out to him because Bill Gates just passed him as the richest man in the world again. So they're going back and forth. So, you know, we're all thinking about Jeff Bezos this holiday season. But the idea that they couldn't do something to address this problem, like that it's just a problem of scale, which seems to be what people are arguing, is just so beyond absurd. I don't know what to do with that. There is one consideration I think about, which is that it wasn't that long ago that we had the 15-year anniversary of the internet. And I think 15 years after we discovered fire, so much arson. You know what I mean?

Right. home so much arson you know i mean right so i think we're there we do need to think about it in a way where like yeah screw amazon but it also we should start to operate as a village and be like how do we want to handle fire the responsibility of fire how do we what are our what are our version of firemen what are and fire people what is our version of a smoke alarm what's our you know what i mean we need to we need to that way, like holistically as a society to protect ourselves from hate speech and violence and things like that. wealth and just, you know, how the world works. There's usually big monopolies that spring up in the aftermath, like the monopolies that happened after the railroads and, you know, things like that. But it's just, yeah,

it's frustrating that people don't seem to be worried about it or seem to get that like it's something that needs correcting necessarily. So that's depressing. Well, Tamer, it's been amazing having you, man. Thanks so much. I love hanging out with you guys because I always end up feeling good even though we're talking about stuff because it's – Depressing shit.

No, but it's chatting with smart people, and we're still in control. I feel like we're like that – they're poking us with a bear. They can't control us. Even French people cut off a king's head. Yeah. And we're tougher than the French. I don't know about that, but let's prove that we are. Where can people find you, follow you, experience you? The best place is my website has all things me.

It's tamerkattan.com, T-A-M-E-R-K-A-T-T-A-N.com. And also Instagram is a really great place. It's at Tamerkat, T-A-M-E-R-K-A-T. Okay. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Yeah, I recently wrote a silly tweet. It said, you know, when Carly Simon wrote, you're so vain, I bet you thought this song was,

think this song is about you. People know that song, but the song they don't know is the second song that came out, which was, you're totally right. That song was about you. Because yeah, it was vain, but he was right. God, how many people have you heard that song was actually about? I've heard James Taylor. I've heard Mick Jagger. I've heard Warren Beatty. I've heard, I think Warren Beatty is the one that people say is actually true. Yeah, me too.

That's the one I think, yeah. Yeah. But, I mean, he seemed so nice on that Oscar stage when he was fucking up that award. Right? How could he be vain? Caitlin, where can people find you? And what's a tweet you've been enjoying? Well, you can find me on Twitter

and Instagram at Caitlin Durante you can go to my website CaitlinDurante.com I have online screenwriting classes that I'm teaching coming up soon the registration links are on my website if you're interested in learning screenwriting

from someone who does have a master's degree from Boston University I hate to bring it up site if you're interested in learning screenwriting from someone who does have a master's degree in it from Boston University I hate to bring it up great school thank you thank you so much and a tweet I've been enjoying this comes from I might mess

up the way this is said but at philagrocery or grossier do you think the Grinch's dick is hairy too? Oh. Like the rest of his body or just smooth and green? That's a great question. I definitely think, first of all, I definitely think it's hairy.

Okay. So team hairy. Team hairy and green. However, I don't think it would be green if it was hairless because isn't he just green fur? Green fur? Oh, I don't know if we know what his skin color is. Right.

Because I was watching The Grinch last night and it's the new Netflix one that I don't even know who voices The Grinch or like who's in it uh but they at one point uh there's a joke that the grinch is buying green hair dye because he's a little getting a little long in the tooth you know what i'm saying okay i think it's i think it's a spectrum like i think the the shaft is a dark green and then on the right before the head it's like a lime oh i see and then it goes back to like a lime. Oh, I see. A lime green. And then it goes back to, like, a lot of dicks are Neapolitan.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's three shades of green. I'm team. A lot of dicks are three shades of green. I've always said that. See, I think I'm team smooth dick. Smooth dick?

Smooth skin. Yeah, but green. Because I think his skin is green in addition to his hair being green. Interesting. Interesting. Yeah. A couple of tweets I've been enjoying. Dylan Galula tweeted, I wish Trader Joe's was on Instacart, quote, and then me living out my little pretend life as my phone sells my medical history to Chevron. And then Louis Vertel tweeted, at West Elm, there are at least five Golden Globe nominated

Diane Keaton roles walking around at any given moment. That's funny. And you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website. What? DailyZeitgeist.com.

It's great. We post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we ride out on. And super producer Ana Hosnier, perpetual pinch hitter for Miles' music picks uh has has a hot one for us she's been pointing at her phone which has a spotify playlist up uh for the last hour actually it's been uh kind of distracting but uh super producer anna hosnier what song are we riding out on today? To continue the Knives theme. Nice. Oh, Knives Out.

I'll talk about Knives Out again. This one is called, it's called Looking for Knives and it's by Dion. D-Y-A-N. I'm probably saying that wrong. I haven't actually heard it ever said before, but it's a great song.

It's very low key. It's got chill vibes. It's about looking for knives. Sometimes you're... There's no mic on you. It's a great jam. I really like listening to it later.

Looking for your knives? It's dark. Looking for my knives. So yeah, enjoy. Thank you, Super Producer. Alright, so we're going to ride out on that. We will be back this afternoon and then tomorrow because this is a daily podcast

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