The Daily Zeitgeist - Nerds Gummy Cluster Poisoning? How To Make ICE Fear You 04.17.26

Episode Date: April 17, 2026

In episode 2043, Jack and guest co-host Sofiya Alexandra are joined by co-host of Brief Recess, Michael Foote, to discuss… The Use of ICE to Suppress the Vote / Disappear People, Ticketmaster A...nd Live Nation Lose Antitrust Case and more! Jury finds Live Nation, Ticketmaster had anti-competitive monopoly over big concert venues Live Nation Lost Its Monopoly Trial. What’s Next — and Could Ticketmaster Really Be Sold? LISTEN: KARMA by SHIMASee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:59 We also have a non-news history version of TDZ dropping each Monday morning where we do a deep dive into the zeitgeist through the lens of a different icon. Whitney Houston was this past week. upcoming. We have Frida Kahlo. They're very fun. I'm reading it a biography on her. Sorry. It's very good. Yeah, yeah. It is Friday, April 17th, 2026. My name's Jack O'Brien, aka Mesquetti,
Starting point is 00:04:25 aka Waccaroni. Those are references to my least favorite types of pastas, which are spaghetti and macaroni. But, like, I have no excuse for looking down my nose at them other than their popularity. This is the one place where I'm like a early 90s rock fan where I'm like, I don't like it. Too many people like macaroni and spaghetti. But if you give me like a fancy asymmetrical pasta shape, I'm like, that is my.
Starting point is 00:04:55 That is chef's kiss. That's so fancy. Are you a rotini head? No, because it's too symmetrical. It's too popular. Give me the weird shape that I've never heard of. Like deep down, I'm a very. of a child who wants dinosaur shapes
Starting point is 00:05:10 in its pasta, you know? Well, like, just give me asymmetrical shapes that look like a knee tendon is where I'm coming from. I'm thrilled to be joined in our second seat by a very talented writer, stand-up comedian who co-hosts
Starting point is 00:05:27 the great 90-day fiancé podcast, 420-day fiancé with some guy named Miles. Welcome to the show. My co-host, currently my co-host on this show the hilarious and talented Sophia Alexandra! Thank you so much. Oh my God, thank you for being here.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Yeah, excited to be Miles today. Y'all. You're doing the Yaa just like Miles. Yeah, that's classic Miles. Y'all. Sophia, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by an attorney who ICE and the Department of Homeland Security love so much. that they shared a memo with their lawyers
Starting point is 00:06:12 about what to do if they meet him in court. An incredible follow on the Graham and TikTok, one of the hosts of the wonderful podcast, Brief Recess, a legal podcast on Exactly Right. Please welcome Michael Fogg! Thank you so much. Wow, what an intro. Michael Flett Esquire.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Yeah, that's me. That's right. I've been called really way worse names than that. So thank you for having me. I'm so pleased to be here. Y'all are wonderful. I'm just excited to chat with you. We're so excited to chat with you.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Your work intersects with a lot of the things that we talk about on this show pretty regularly. So we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about the use of ICE to suppress the vote potentially, which is something that you guys were talking about on your podcast fairly recently. And just overall, how the battle in courts against ICE, against the disappearing, of people is going. We're going to talk about the Ticketmaster Live Nation antitrust case. It's a Grisham novel because this is a courtroom drama this episode.
Starting point is 00:07:21 But just generally like all of the leanings of this administration and like, you know, the ways that people are battling them in the court and how that's going to work out. And we might even talk about the battle over the Internet Archive. Which might be going away. All of that, plenty more. But first, Michael, we do like to ask our guests. What is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Okay, so, oh, should I pull it up?
Starting point is 00:07:52 I can pull it up right now, actually, and just read it to you. Let's do, like, the uncensored version. Because I'm sure everyone comes on here with their, like, media trained answer, right? Right. I don't have media training. I keep asking. and they'll do it. Train me.
Starting point is 00:08:10 And they're like, no. That's, no. Okay, so here we go. Let me pull it. Can I zoom it? Yeah. Yes. So we have East Fork, which is a ceramic company. I think I have one of their mugs right here.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Nice. Beautiful mug. So I need more, because I keep breaking mugs because I drink so much coffee. I'm wandering around the house. Do you bring it? I mean, you're probably jittery and stuff. And I'm on the phone or something. Sometimes I have like a virtual emergency hearing with the judge.
Starting point is 00:08:40 And then I'm like, you know, shuffling through papers. And then New York City parking tickets, if you know, you know. It's cheaper in New York to pay the ticket, eat the ticket, than it is to park your car in a garage. So we just all leave them out. Right. And eat the cost. Do they, are they ever doing the boots?
Starting point is 00:09:03 Are they ever giving cars the fun little boots? My neighbor, this Polish woman that lives next door, she got a boot, but you have to fail to pay $500 of tickets in order to get a boot in New York City. How many tickets is that? Like five? No, it's a lot. It's like at least 10. Oh, wow. You really got a, you really have to be a delinquent. So you just have to, like, stay up on your parking ticket. Like, you're just like constantly paying parking tickets. It's baked into my budget. Like, it's a part of the monthly finances.
Starting point is 00:09:35 A parking ticket in L.A. is like $250. That's why I thought it was so few. So she got two parking tickets? In New York, it's like 40 bucks. It's like, yeah. Because there's, I mean, there's so many, so many people here. I haven't seen 40 bucks on a parking ticket ever. Wow. The good old days, right? It's like, you told me you bought a Hershey bar for three cents.
Starting point is 00:09:54 I'm like, tell me more. What? Yeah. So that's a little bit of my search history. I also have ramp pasta on here. I wanted to cook some ramp pasta because it's now in season. It's like spring onions in New York. We just have like the worst, most horrific winter. And y'all are in L.A., right?
Starting point is 00:10:16 Yeah. I'm in Portland right now, and I try to find ramps too, because I'm like trying to forage. Yeah, yeah. I did not find any. And the leaves look like a lot of other leaves turns out. So you've just got dandelion pasta going on? No.
Starting point is 00:10:34 I keep picking. making things that I'm like, I guess this is a day lily leaf. I don't know. They look the same, you guys. Not Sophia poisoning herself. Always, always. It's her last recording. And what kind of posture you use in that room?
Starting point is 00:10:50 Okay, so yeah, and I've been doing like I'm trying to do, because all these reports keep coming out and it's scaring me of how everything has like poison in it, arsenic in it. And so I'm really trying and how all of, of our food comes from like one corporation. It's like Halliburton or something shit. The arsenic. Arsenic ink.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Yeah. And they're just pumping it full of PFAs and all sorts of chemicals. And so I'm like, all right, I'm trying to. I had a great farm hookup. And then that went out of business. I guess I wasn't paying him enough. And now I found another thing. It's like a farm box.
Starting point is 00:11:31 And so they send sort of, I guess, artisan. Yes, more seasonal. And some of it is homemade pasta. So they sent that to me because I can't really make my own pasta. Yeah. Homemade pasta? That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Yeah. What are the shapes? I know Jack needs to know what the shapes are. I think I got some sort of ravioli and I was going to make that. So that's what I was looking up brand pasta. Yeah, the handmade pasta. Yeah. Just make it seem like it's handmade even if it's not.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Just make it look a little bit fucked up. Just cut off a couple edges a little bit. I'm never looking that nice. The New York Times cooking, they're always trying to do, oh, homemade pasta, and it looks beautiful. And I'm like, you know it's not going to look like that. It's going to look like a kid. My shit is all lumpy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Always lumpy. I'm like weird-ass variable, like thicknesses of length. Why does my spaghetti look like it's digesting a wild boar that it ate like 24 hours ago? Yeah, yeah, like those anacontas. Yeah. What is something, Michael, that you think is underrated? I would say arsenic and food. And that is pretty highly rated.
Starting point is 00:12:41 We've been talking about how. Maybe they're doing it for a reason. We're pro. Yeah, we are pro on this, but yeah, I'm willing to hear your case. When it comes down to it, thank you for hearing my motion today on the corner. I guess when it comes down to it, I'm like, all right, so this report came out that nerds and nerd clusters, if you eat like, one. one bag, you've had two years worth of arsenic for your body.
Starting point is 00:13:08 There is a recommended... There's a standard amount of arsenic? There's like a standard amount that you are able to handle, I guess, without it being considered, like, damaging. Because I guess there's, like, you know, elements are in everything. I want to know how we found that out and who found that out. Thank you. Who is doing the work, right?
Starting point is 00:13:28 Who's doing the labor here? Big arsenic? I think so. Accountability matters. Is Socrates the one who poisoned himself? I forget. No, that was Hamlet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Hamlet. Yeah. All those guys run together. Oh, no. Hamlet? Someone's dad got poisoned in Shakespeare. Anyway, I feel like... Sorry.
Starting point is 00:13:49 I'm just picturing a Shakespeare scholar right now in their car yelling. Yeah, just screaming. And you know what? They're going to DM me. And let me tell you, I'm not going to read it. Thank you. You should. I have no interest in hearing about a.
Starting point is 00:14:03 ability when it comes to Shakespeare. I'm sick of Shakespeare. Actually, I want to say the thing I'm really sick of is Shakespeare. I'm done. I'm done. Why are you talking like that? I don't know what you're saying. I don't. And I think everyone at a Shakespeare show, it's collective psychosis, because everyone is acting as if they know what everyone's saying. I know you don't, Becky from Peoria. I know you don't. Janet from Houston, you don't know Iambic pentameter. I don't. None of us know. So let's wrap
Starting point is 00:14:40 it up. We all have internet brain rot. None of us are actually paying attention. We're here because we want to feel like we ate our vegetables, right? Culturally. We're here because we want to say we saw whatever star played Iago.
Starting point is 00:14:56 No. I'm done with Shakespeare and I'm sick of it. And I'm sure that... This is the best overrated I've ever heard. Thank you. And I'm not done. Because I'm sure that there are so many prolific writers from the 1600s who were like Shakespeare's contemporaries, we will never know who they are. We don't know who that bitch is because everyone's just redoing another Shakespeare thing.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Oh, let's do the story of Shakespeare's mother, the story of Shakespeare. Like, I'm sure there's someone else who is doing something fierce and we will never know because we're, just getting another Shakespeare revival. So comment me in the comments. I don't care. Shakespeare is the original Spider-Man in many ways. They just keep rebooting and rebooting and rebooting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:42 I keep getting older, but the Spider-Men stay the same age. At least that guys in Spanbert. Yeah, at least that guys in Spandex. And at least Spider-Man movies are spawning a whole world of pornography, right? Like, we have Spider-Man porn. We don't have Shakespeare porn. We don't need it. No one wants a frilly collar.
Starting point is 00:16:03 I'm sure we have Shakespeare more. You think someone's getting their back blown out with a frilly collar on right now? Oh, yeah. Possibly. Absolutely. People are getting choked by that little rough, you know? Yeah, yeah. Like, for sure.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Yeah. Oh, no. They're climaxing a in iambic pentameter. Oh, no. Shakespeare does give you the experience of kind of knowing a language, like when you're kind of learning a language, and you're like, oh, I got that phrase. Like, I knew that one.
Starting point is 00:16:35 It's like when you're talking to like the guy, like when you're talking to a child or the guy on the street who's like yelling, like that's kind of what I amic pentameter is like. It's like I kind of got that, but I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, give us the Baz Luhrmann, at least.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Give us some fireworks and everybody. The Nicole Kidman doesn't die in the end. Go, fuck your. yourself. Yeah. That's right. Give me the, uh, give me the, uh, give me the Nicole Kibben version. I'll watch you're doing. Of everything, honestly. Yeah. We did just speed back, uh, speed past the fact that nerd clusters have arsenic in them. And I'm willing to go deep on this. So I think that nerd clusters, so there was this report that nerds and
Starting point is 00:17:23 because nerd clusters contain nerds, right, have a level of arsenic that is dangerous if you eat too many. I thought I tasted it in there. Like, it does feel, it does feel like, as I'm eating them, I'm like, there's something in here that shouldn't be in there. Jack's a supertaster for poisons. It's got that, like, nice Monsanto tang, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Yeah, he's like, when people can taste cilantro and they're like, it tastes like soap. Yeah, supertasters. But it's like one bag of nerds is like more than the year amount of arsenic that you should be able to consume. And so for me, I'm like, either take the arsenic out and then tell me, or don't tell me at all, and let me, let me kill myself with nerds.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Right. You know, let me push it myself. Yeah. That's totally reasonable. Like, thank you. Let me decide for myself. Yeah, and so I was at the movies this weekend. I saw Helm Mary Mother of Project Helm.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Yeah. Project Helmarry mother of the projects. Yeah. Yes. Mm-hmm. Yes. And so it was the Project Helmarry with Ryan Gosling. So I was getting candy for the movie and I reached for the nerd clusters.
Starting point is 00:18:43 And I did it. Yeah. I didn't because I was like, I think I've had enough arsenic for the year. Yeah. I had like the full amount. Yeah. I guess this is growing up. So, yeah, I had to get.
Starting point is 00:18:58 I know a different candy, man. I feel like that's... They need to make a new version of Hamlet where he poisons his uncle at the end with nerd clusters. Their clusters are the best candy. There's a Shakespeare scholar listening to this livid
Starting point is 00:19:14 that we've gotten every detail about Hamlet wrong. And I'm complaining we have too much of it. Clearly we don't. I don't know anything about Hamlet. Okay, look, I know that poison was in an ear, okay? And I think like it's not going to work as well if we put the nerd cluster. in there. I have to change. Guys, we have to change orifices for sure.
Starting point is 00:19:33 We have to. It's not the first time I've said that on this podcast, says, you know, Jack. People are boofing nerds. And it's not okay. And it's time. It's time. Not boofing nerds. They're doing. We talked on yesterday's episode about the study that says the cure for
Starting point is 00:19:54 internet brain rot is to watch challenging things that you don't want to watch often. Like they did this study where they showed people, some people just whatever they would normally be watching on Instagram and other people challenging animated shorts, which the last thing, if you asked me to like, you know, check off the things. And then they like gave them creativity, creative thinking tests.
Starting point is 00:20:22 And the people who would watch the animated shorts were like, that sucked and then did better. on the creative thinking thing. I'm just wondering if Shakespeare falls into that category. Oh, definitely. I was thinking about that the whole time. We just like cram down our mouth, our throats. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Yeah. I think when it comes to internet brain rot, what brain are we rotting, right? Like the brain we're starting out with, it might need a little rot. I think that's okay. Like, I do think it's okay to internet brain rot. Some call it gooning, some call it brain rot.
Starting point is 00:20:56 But I culture, gooning. Doom scrolling, yeah, exactly. And it's like, my dog doomscrolls when he like sniffs the same spot for 20 minutes. And that's like his version of doom scrolling. And I think it has like, I'm sure this study, really illustrious scientists and everything, but they're not in my home. And they're not seeing what I'm dealing with on a day-to-day basis. And they're not seeing the videos that I'm consuming, which genuinely make me feel better and happier.
Starting point is 00:21:23 So like my brain going into an internet brain, session where I'm watching reels for two, three, four hours in bed giggling, having the time of my life, they're not seeing that, and they're not seeing that dopamine effect. So I think that, like, when we are bashing internet brain rot, it's like, yeah, some brains need to be a little bit rotten. What we're starting out with is like an unmedicated nightmare, and now the internet is actually helping it. So I find that, I mean, I say it all the time. The internet's a made my life better. It's so fun. I've made all my friends on there. And I have an absolute blast, posting, watching videos, getting in the comments. It's great. No notes. It has only helped my mental
Starting point is 00:22:11 health. Good. You're very good at it. I think so some people, let's say not all brain rot, you know? I'm also, I'm also entering, yeah, I'm also entering the internet as like an old-ass bitch. Like, I'm, I'm, I'm deep in my 30s, and that was when I started posting. So I'm sure it's much different for a 14-year-old that came up through the internet was in the classroom. This is all they know. It wasn't like that for me. I was wrapping my finger around the phone cord in the kitchen. That was my internet.
Starting point is 00:22:46 So it's been a blast for me. Were you raised in the Truman Show? How are you just coming to the internet? Where are you coming from? I always had the internet in my life, but it was always like private. I didn't really look at it that much. I was doing my thing. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:01 I just wasn't really like chronically online the way that I am now. You just jumped in. You steered into the brain rot and look at you. I think it's really hard for me to do anything medium. So it's like either I'm just like online like I was when, you know, I started with like Twitter and stuff. And it's like, I'm doing jokes. I'm posting.
Starting point is 00:23:20 I'm posting photos. But, you know, I think the other side of it is I just disson. beer for years. I love people like that. So I'd like to find some sort of a medium where I'm like, it's enjoyable. And you know what, Sophia? Some people might call that manic depressive, but you know what? Don't listen to them.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Baby, I'm medicated bipolar. You are not incorrect. Exactly. And I love people like that because we need people like that in the world. Those people are driving progress. The people who are ride, you're the ride or die friend. You know, like you're going to knock down a bank. Like, you're going to pull a bank job with me.
Starting point is 00:23:54 If we need to. You know what I mean? Like, people who commit really hard, like that, we need more of that in this world because I don't see enough of it. Let's do a bank job together, guys. Honestly. Fuck the rest of this episode. The Daily Zai guys finally spawned what I've been trying to do this whole time, a crime.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Did you see that guy who burned down the paper factory? Yeah. Fuck, yeah. Toilipaper. It was like, maybe you should have paid me more. I don't know. Maybe there's a toilet paper shortage. A living wage.
Starting point is 00:24:25 I mean, whoopsies. Well-earned toilet paper shortage. We should start an online rumor that people are wiping with their hands. Yeah. I like that, but what about we choose a book? And we're like, people are buying this book and only wiping with that. That's why it's King Lear. It's on the bestseller list.
Starting point is 00:24:43 It's King Lear. It's been King Lear the whole time. Melania's book, yeah, there's a lot of copies of that. Melania's, but people are wiping with the Lelis. That's so crazy, you guys. They're buying. just to wipe with it? Wow. Let us take a quick break
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Starting point is 00:25:45 I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What's up, everyone? I'm Ego Wadom. My next guest, you know from Step Brothers Anchorman, Saturday Night Live, and the Big Money Players Network. It's Will Ferrell.
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Starting point is 00:26:54 It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be... Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks, Dad, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I feel like it was a little bit unbelievable until I really start making money. It's Financial Literacy Month, and the podcast, Eating While Broke is bringing real conversations about money, growth, and building your future.
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Starting point is 00:29:23 And as far as we can tell, that is not happening, though that is what TikTok is telling us. Not yet, exactly. Yeah. And Catherine gave us the adorable nickname for the paper. version of Luigi Mangione, and that is Paper Mario. All right. Such a good nickname. Such a good nickname. Yeah. Let's talk about ice, baby.
Starting point is 00:29:45 As someone who understands lawyer stuff, Michael, and I do believe that's the correct way to. It is. Is it top law dog in town? Am I right, law dogs? Woof, woof, let us know. Big dog got to eat. And that's what they said at my swearing in ceremony.
Starting point is 00:30:02 And do you agree that big dog got to eat? Yeah, I wanted to get your thoughts on a couple things. Like on your podcast, you spoke about the very real possibility that ICE could be at our polling places, gently guiding us. No, affecting people's votes via intimidation. Oh, they're going to be there. Scaring the fuck out of people. Yeah, they're going to be there.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Take my, yeah. No shortage of articles saying that's illegal. I've also seen like California ballot measures that are being put out to strictly prohibit that. But it feels like the point of ICE is that it's like, yeah, we don't care what's legal, right? Like they don't act within the borders of the law. Like a lot of things are illegal that ICE is doing.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Right. And a lot of things that happened in Minnesota were illegal. the thing about illegality is that it takes years to litigate after the crime is committed. So people like me are working on cases from three years ago. The crime was committed in 2024. And I'm litigating it now in court. So sure, yes, it is absolutely illegal. And there are these bans in California.
Starting point is 00:31:21 And there are these local legislations that are attempting to curtail that federal action of ICE at a polling station. However, the accountability will happen after the damage is done. So the court system, by virtue of its existence, is trying to write a wrong that's already happened, right? We don't litigate crimes that haven't happened yet. It's not the minority report. We litigate crimes that happened. So this notion that, sure, legislators in California can do this, absolutely. Trump decided to send ice agents to the airport on a Sunday night, and they were there six hours later on Monday morning at 6 a.m. Right. There was no time to legislate. There was no time for Congresspeople to get upset. There was no time for, you know, them to do this kabuki act of
Starting point is 00:32:18 pretend that we're going to try and stop him. We're going to try and stop this. And then he ends up doing it anyway. He can just decide to send them. And they will go. We have. We are going to already have seen time and time again in every iteration of ICE presence in U.S. cities that they disregard local law, they disregard federal law, they have no interest in ensuring the Constitution is protected, and they're there to enact their orders, which in this situation will likely be disrupt polling stations in battle the ground states. Right. So that's been my assertion on my show. I stand by that claim. I stand by that opinion. I think we would be fools to think that Republicans are looking at a walloping. We already see this blue wave growing in every special
Starting point is 00:33:11 election. And we're inching closer and closer to November that Trump's going to do nothing. That he's just going to like- We'd be fools to think he's going to do nothing. Yeah. I think that's just, I think that's actually a shame on me. moment. Right. If I don't actually anticipate something, if I'm surprised in November by some sort of voter interference, that's a shame on me moment, right? Like, I'm awake. I'm paying attention. I'm reading the headlines. I'll actually be kind of annoyed. If everyone's like, what? Right. I'm going to be pissed because I've been saying it. So this notion that it's not going to happen, I think we should we should dispense with that now.
Starting point is 00:33:55 I don't think we should be like writing think pieces for the New Yorker on whether or not it's going to happen. I think that's a waste of your word count. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So it's going to happen. So like, what do we do to prepare, right? Like, what is Congress and Senate doing now? How are we ensuring that ICE is not funded so that they're able to do that? What laws are we enacting
Starting point is 00:34:19 so that they're not wearing masks so that ICE officers don't feel so empowered to violate the Constitution, right? I mean, that's where that accountability piece I'm talking about where we go and we litigate the crime, that's where that really comes into play, right? We can't litigate a crime of someone wearing a mask and we don't know who they are. So the threat of crime,
Starting point is 00:34:42 the threat of police action, the threat of going to court and being held accountable for your actions, it has to be intricately tied to your individual identity, right? We have to say, like, someone thinking about going and interfering as an ICE officer, if they get to wear a mask, they're going to feel really empowered to go ahead and follow the orders that violate the law, because they know that there won't be accountability. So how can we ensure that ICE officers now aren't wearing masks? That way, when they show up to work, and they start to do.
Starting point is 00:35:19 doing their job and they get those orders, they think twice. The slowness of the legal, because that seems to be the hack that he's figured out, is like, we do the damage. And then the consequences come years down the road. And by that time, I've already given everybody a separate crisis to be focused on. And, like, that's actually, like, how he's operated since early in his career. Like, he would tie people up in court for just reporting something true about him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:47 And then by the time, you know, it would just hold it up, hold it up, hold it up, and like outlast them essentially. I mean, it's very much the same strategy he uses with people too, right? It's like ask for forgiveness, not for permission. Like, that's a rapist's motto. Right. And he does the same thing with any legal or other responsibilities. It's the same.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Yeah. It feels like the thing that needs to happen is like something, actually sticks. Like these people who are involved in what is happening in this administration need to be prosecuted within like the outer limits of the law,
Starting point is 00:36:30 including the Trump administration. Like just how, from a legal, I don't know that we have the Democratic Party currently that is willing to do that. But legally, is there a groundwork that, like, you could see
Starting point is 00:36:47 that eventually happening. Could someone who is not a fucking pussy-ass Democratic Party, theoretically, could they legally? Yeah. And I think this is where state legislatures have been incredible. If you get an opportunity to follow along with what Minnesota is doing to sue the Trump administration to hold them accountable, what they're doing to conduct independent investigations around the murder of Renee Good and Alex Pretty, there are, are real mechanisms that state powers have to hold federal governments accountable, right?
Starting point is 00:37:24 And I also think, you know, no, we do not have the Democratic Party that we need in order to ensure that there is substantial accountability for current leadership. I do think that what Congressman Garcia and Jasmine Crockett are doing with ensuring that subpoenas are going out for people like Pam Bondi and then ensuring that they're held accountable when they do not comply with those subpoenas. I think that's a very real mechanism. It is splashing. It catches headlines. It's a pretty quick process, right? To issue a subpoena is fast. And to disregard a subpoena happens pretty soon thereafter. And it gives a lot of opportunities to call attention to a matter in real time.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Right. So I think the subpoena power that they've been exercising has been done really well. We've had Congressman Garcia on my show and we've talked about this a little bit, mostly around sort of like ice and what they've been doing,
Starting point is 00:38:28 but he's been doing a really great job, I think, with being methodical with the Epstein files in the limited scope of his role and what he can and cannot do. Sure. I have a legal question for you. Sure.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Unrelated to this, it has to do with a car, a car accident. So if you park at a yellow curb after six, I'm so sorry. This is the equivalent, like my friends who are in the medical profession. Yeah, yeah, I'm like, will you look at this real? There's always, yeah, yeah, there's always a party they're like, yes, yes. Okay, but seriously, can we go in the back room? I've got to do this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:08 I have a real serious question. Okay. Okay. So in terms of, so we are. So we already know ICE is going to be at the polls intimidating. And if we're trying to prepare and we're thinking about things like direct action from the point of like citizens, is there a situation where, you know, theoretically people could go and just hang out at the polls. As our lawyer, what do you advise we do? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Would you say that that is something you could possibly do without. getting arrested for it? There are organizations, there are poll watch organizations that you can join and be a volunteer. And I would recommend that over a vigilante, guerrilla group of individuals.
Starting point is 00:39:57 I am an antar-piced, so I'm like, I don't understand. Other than just hanging out with your friends outside of polling station, I would recommend going with a formal organization you'll be covered by their insurance. They will be able to keep an aisle, you, they will give you a script. They will give you a list of hypothetical things that could possibly
Starting point is 00:40:16 happen and what to do in each situation. There will be experts on the scene who can help. I mean, a lot of schools and colleges do this, where they'll send college students to battleground states to be poll watchers. So it is a big part of elections, are these poll watch nonprofits. And they do great work. It's often quiet work that we don't hear about. They're everyday people. And they're doing one very small task in Georgia, in rural Georgia, or, you know, they're somewhere in the Midwest watching those polls. And so I think that I would recommend getting involved with one of those groups before, like, loitering at a polling station with your phone. Because there are a lot of laws that govern soliciting and loitering around polling stations. and they're usually like really obscure laws from 100 years ago
Starting point is 00:41:12 that have never been written off the books. And they only come up like once every few years. So not that many people are well versed in them and aware of those laws. So I wouldn't want someone to like accidentally break one of those rules. So that would be my advice. Join a group. That's so helpful. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Yeah. Yeah. But there are, I mean, we should really be like getting ready for that because we're going to have to do that work, right? you know, it's like a Harry Potter when Harry is conjuring the patroness, or he's waiting for his dad to show up
Starting point is 00:41:46 to conjure the patronus. We are the dad. We're the dad. It's us. And he realizes he has to do it himself. That's what's happening. He's waiting for his father's ghost to conjure the patroness to save Sirius. And he realizes,
Starting point is 00:42:04 is from behind the tree. He's not here. He's not coming. And he's like, oh, my God, it's me. That's what this is like. Not to invoke a transphobe, but like, that's what this election is like is we're waiting for dad to save us. Beautifully put. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games. You get stupid prizes. And Rule 2, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends.
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Starting point is 00:46:42 antitrust case to talk about, but really briefly, because I do, I don't just want to skip past the very cool detail that ICE and the Department of Homeland Security have a memo that they sent to their lawyers about what they should do when they meet you in court. You've certainly got their attention.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Is there something that you have figured out that we don't understand about ICE or anything, or is it just a matter of you being sick with it in terms of being really good in court? Listen, I mean, there are only so many bad bitches on earth. And I think, truly, it's supply and demand, right? There are only so many. Yes.
Starting point is 00:47:27 And I am a bad bitch. Like, and I don't think there's any. Is that in the memo? Yeah. There's no value. Watch out for him. He is a bad bitch. There's no, like, point in denying that I'm a bad bitch in court.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Like, that is what I'm good at. That's what I do. I bat at everything else. So let me have this one thing. Bad at keeping coffee cups from breaking. Let me brag about being a. He doesn't understand Iambic pantameter. Let him look in the courtroom.
Starting point is 00:48:01 I'm uncultured. I'm in eloquent. Like, I am bald. Like, I'm old as hell on the internet. Like, let me have my stripes. Like, let me have my flowers around court and everything else I can suck at. But I think like what that really came down to was like, I've been going to court for 10 years before I ever started making content about it. So I've been a practicing attorney since 2014.
Starting point is 00:48:26 I've been a litigator my entire career. And it was always really quiet work. I liked it. I love going to court. I love litigating. There's nothing more interesting than like a weird legal situation that I can sink my teeth into, especially one where maybe no one else can help. or no one else is an expert in that area. So I really pride myself.
Starting point is 00:48:50 I have a relatively obscure area of law where I manage criminal cases for immigrants. So it's called M-Crim, and it's immigration law meets criminal law, and it's when a migrant faces deportation because they committed a crime. And you're in two different courtrooms. It's like a very specific practice,
Starting point is 00:49:10 and it's really exciting to me because people call me, and I'm like, they're like, I don't know what to do. Other lawyers call me and they're like, this is a weird ball of wax. I don't know how to untangle it. And I get to be like, I actually know how to do this.
Starting point is 00:49:24 So it's very satisfying in a way in which I don't get that anywhere else in my life. Like nowhere else in my life, do I have it all figured out? Except it's like one little corner. So when there was that memo, when I did hear that they threw up a source that, you know, I had created a ruckus in an office.
Starting point is 00:49:44 a government office somewhere based off this work I was doing. I was, honestly, my first thought was relief because I was like, thank God. Thank God these 10, 12 years in court, I now know that something happened because of it. I either pissed someone off or I did enough of this work to create an impact. And we don't, I think the reason why people have gotten so excited about that video, about that story, is because that doesn't happen a lot in life. A lot of the times we don't know our impact. No. We don't see the correct.
Starting point is 00:50:26 They don't want you to know. They didn't put out a statement being like, we're very afraid of Michael Foote. Yeah, that was leaked. It was an internal memo, yeah. Internal memo. And so to just kind of be indirectly told that what you're doing actually had an impact was important. that that quiet work that, no one, I mean, so few people were doing. So few people were there alongside me helping.
Starting point is 00:50:51 I had to figure a lot of it out myself. I've got a couple great friends that were always there. It was just so nice. It was so nice to finally be like, oh, that was all those nights staying up late, or like crying in the shower because I was exhausted, or going to court to represent someone who was telling me to go fuck myself, you know, who hated me,
Starting point is 00:51:12 or getting yelled out by a judge or getting screwed over by DHS, just knowing it was all worth it for once, God, that's such a nice feeling. And I don't need anything else after that. Yeah, you're good. You've been paid. I can retire.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Yeah. And yeah, I've heard your advice to people about, like, if they are taken by ICE, like, just don't sign anything. Yeah. Have the number of somebody who is a citizen that you can call. And is that it?
Starting point is 00:51:41 Yeah. For a lawyer? As for a lawyer, say you want to appear before a judge, let them know that you have like a friend on the outside who is working on getting you an attorney. If Jack, if you were a migrant, I would want you to give Sophia. It's called your A number. It is sort of like your social security number if you're a migrant. And it just makes it so much easier for a lawyer to track you down if you are placed into removal proceedings or detained by a immigrant. ice. People really focus on the fact that we are deporting people without ceremony, without removal proceedings without a day in court. I want to be real that that does happen, but it is not
Starting point is 00:52:24 the majority of people. So I think the general public don't see what happens after the van door closes and the person gets detained. I'm on the other side of that van door. They then meet me in court. And I get to start what ends can sometimes be a really long process where I have a client in detention. I've had clients in detention for years. Like, we're on appeal,
Starting point is 00:52:49 like all sorts of stuff. So it is important you move quickly, but I would just say, like, I don't want to say don't panic because that's such futile advice. Right. Yeah. So I would suggest that. I also think if you do witness,
Starting point is 00:53:07 ICE detaining someone if you're not a migrant. This is for the white people listening. Film everything you possibly can. Get names, get badge numbers. Talk to witnesses who are there. Get their name and their phone number. Because, especially as like the white person in the room, you have to use your white privilege to shield the people of color in that space.
Starting point is 00:53:30 But lawyers like me need those names. Those are witnesses that can testify, that can write a declaration, I can submit in court. If I go to court, like, empty-handed and I'm like, Judge, I don't really know what happened, but you should let him out. It's not a very strong argument. But if I have like five written declarations from eyewitnesses of what happened and I've got their A number and I'm able to research their background and their friend gives me a photo of their passport, and I've got everything. I can put it together in a nice packet. Judge is much more likely to listen to me. So that is really my advice is like, you, we,
Starting point is 00:54:07 do kind of have to be like prepping for trial. And then the other thing is that three years from now when you want to sue the government for legally detaining you, we have all that evidence and we can do that in civil court, you know? So that's sort of my quick, fast and dirty advice for general public. That's great advice. And thank you for that. important for everybody to hear. Let's talk really briefly about this Ticketmaster, Live Nation antitrust case. A Manhattan federal jury found that Live Nation ticketmaster really is a harmful monopoly in an antitrust case that was
Starting point is 00:54:40 brought by dozens of U.S. states pretty obvious that this is the case, but some of the damning evidence included one Live Nation executives' internal messages, which called customers so stupid and bragged that the company was robbing
Starting point is 00:54:57 them blind, comma, baby. We're robbing them blind, baby. Why are they cartoon villains, though? Why is everyone cartoon villains? How did it happen? It's so poorly written. I know.
Starting point is 00:55:11 I love to imagine them like chomping on a cigar, you know what I mean? That they lit with a $100 bill. Like, what? This is insane. It's so true. Oh, my God. Yeah, it is pretty crazy. Yeah, I mean, I'm sick of these, like, giant corporations screwing everyone over, getting rich,
Starting point is 00:55:29 and then they get taken to court and they pay out millions, but you only get a check in the mail for, like, 37 cents. Right. I'm sick at that shit. And you've got a settlement check from Joybird, you know, the furniture makers? Yeah, what happened? I don't know. We never have like good information about that because that's not what the media is for.
Starting point is 00:55:51 They did me dirty. I'm sitting on their couch like right now. You know what I don't know what happened, but they sent me a thing that was $45. Just vaguely says for the arsenic. I will say a lot of the times it's they mismanaged your data and it got compromised. Like someone has your phone. Well, $45 is not enough for that. And also, what am I going to buy with $45 from a couch store?
Starting point is 00:56:14 Yeah. Yeah. You can get some eggs. Like, a quarter of a lamp. Like, what are we doing? Oh, it's just for the company. Like, it's just, they give you a $45 credit to Joy Bird. Wow.
Starting point is 00:56:25 That's fucking amazing. You're screwed. You're toast. That's amazing. Someone is using, someone in Eastern Europe is using your Social Security. I am from Eastern Europe. You know, offensive. My own people scamming me for this?
Starting point is 00:56:39 I hate it. Just because I wanted a fucking teal-colored couch. Sue me. I love those sofas, though. They are nice. You know what? You can steal my shit. I want that sofa.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Next they're going to be pivoting into it. Like, do you see the Allbirds? Is that the shoe company? Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. The stock price went up like 300% or something. That's psychotic.
Starting point is 00:57:06 This, every, everything in this administration, but just generally, like, I keep saying, like, I feel like we just need to come to terms with the fact that we have a bad operating system. Like, the whole way that everything is organized is just in favor of corporations and, you know, they don't have, we don't have the necessary, you know, stops in place to, like, make them see consequences when they do shit like this. It's just, like, even this case, like, the judge will decide. the specifics when it comes to remedies and damages, but they're probably not going to break up the companies. They'll probably just like charge them a fine because the DOJ bailed on the case after Trump was reelected.
Starting point is 00:57:48 So it's just, I don't know, like what is going to be the final straw? Like people are starting to not accept that shit. I think we're seeing the final straws, right? Like we're seeing the Kimberly Clark factories burning down. We're seeing people like Luigi do what they do. I think that, I mean, this is a real lawsuit, right? After Luigi allegedly murdered the CEO of United Healthcare,
Starting point is 00:58:18 United Healthcare started approving claims faster, and the shareholders last year got together and sued United and said, you approved too many claims. You approved too many claims after the CEO was murdered. Right. And so by literally creating that lawsuit, the shareholders effectively admitted that what Luigi did worked for all intents and purposes of Luigi's goal. It actually kind of worked, was kind of what the shareholders were saying.
Starting point is 00:58:52 So they started approving more claims faster. And that is a fact asserted in their lawsuit. So I think when you say, like, when is what's going to change? I think that presumes that what we're looking for is some sort of systematized change, someone to sort of come down from an administration and say, you know what, we're done with this, it's over. But I actually think like from, I imagine the way the change will happen is it'll probably happen the opposite direction.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Yeah, it's going to come from the bottom up instead of the top down is how I predict. Sure. Someone needs to be like, maybe we build a system where the thing that works the best for people is not to just murder people. Right. And like, yeah, I know. And someone really has to do that work. And is that a politician? I don't know. Is that a legislator? Is it stripping corporations of their rights? I mean, corporations. I think that would be the number one thing that would change so much. As soon as corporations became people, we were fucked. Yeah, yeah. Corporate personhood is very real, and it's gotten us into a lot of trouble. They have more rights than individuals in America. And I think this notion that, and right, the three of us in these opinions are not the majority. Like I think a lot of Americans are like, oh, no, companies are good. We need corporations to give us jobs. They're my friends. There are a lot of people who are like, oh, well, they pay my husband's pension, right? Or they put money into my 401K. like corporations are great. Like there are a lot of people in this country
Starting point is 01:00:31 who think that way. And I think that, you know, the sooner, I think through these lawsuits, through people getting only a $10 check in the mail when all their data got stolen, I think the general population is going to start to come around to this idea more that maybe corporations aren't good for you.
Starting point is 01:00:53 Every single nerd that you ate had arsenic in it. Clearly someone, clearly someone at the nerds factory doesn't give a shit about you and your safety, right? Yeah. We just got all this arsenic and we got to get rid of it somehow, you know? Yeah. So I...
Starting point is 01:01:10 Yeah, I think that's right. Like, we, I think we got to the place where it's like, billionaires are bad. Like, everybody's like, yeah, fuck billionaires. But the corporations are the next thing. Because billionaires don't have, you know, multi-billion dollar advertising budgets. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:26 And so, like, that's what we need to undo a lot of advertising brainwashing that's been happening. Yeah, I agree. I feel, though, that, like, there's been a fundamental shift that happened when Trump got elected outside of everything has been that, you know, even when we had presidents that were, like, fucked up that we hated, you know, like Bush, like fucking Reagan, that piece of shit. You know, we've had bad people, but there was still some weird respect. or something baked in for the position of president and for, like, leading the country. Like, that was still a concept. And I think that that's been betrayed. And the reason there's no stops for it is I think everybody just literally thought we would
Starting point is 01:02:14 always have, like, basic humanity and a basic desire to do, like, good things for the people that, you know, live in your country. And I think that has gone out of the window to such a degree that, like, Like, the money's made them so crazy that now, like, switching to AI, who do you think is going to pay for any of the stuff that AI makes? Right. You're putting people out of work. How are they going to pay for the shit you're making?
Starting point is 01:02:40 Right. And I think, I mean, when I think about AI, remember NFTs? Mm-hmm. What the, where the fuck did NFTs go? No one gives a shit about that. And all I heard about it. They're all over here, Michael. I'm sorry to say.
Starting point is 01:02:53 He's got a closet full of them. I got something that I can live. And that, what was that like monkey gorilla, you could like buy it? Beating ape or cool. It was like some sort of ape where you buy it and it appreciated in value. The one that Justin Bieber owns, he bought it for like $2.8 million. It's worth $14,000 right now. So like I feel like all the NFT people just like switch to AI because NFTs, no one would shut the fuck up about them in 2021.
Starting point is 01:03:21 It's all I heard about. It's a true cult. Yeah. And now, where are they? Where's the Metaverse? And everyone's talking about AI, and everyone's throwing money at it. I think there's going to be a turning point, right? I mean, AI is like, it's like, everyone talks about AI, like, it's incredible.
Starting point is 01:03:44 And it's like, do you remember that girl in college who was always talking about her boyfriend back home? Yes. Who was like, oh, he's incredible. Like, just wouldn't shut the fuck up about this guy. Sure. And then Winter break came around, and he came around. and he came to visit. And it was just some guy named Matt. It was just like some guy.
Starting point is 01:04:01 It's always some guy named Matt. It's always some mid dude named Matt. And he like literally would say five words and you'd be like, this? This is the guy you've been telling him off for months. That is so funny. You guys are going to love Matt. That's a I.
Starting point is 01:04:14 That's a I. Because really, like, how many arguments have we all gotten into with chat GPT? Because it's not giving us what we want. I was trying to make a birthday invitation of, my face making out with myself in the style of heated rivalry. And it took me, I'm not kidding. It was like days of me fighting with fucking AI just to get this image created. It was unreal.
Starting point is 01:04:40 I was like, I'm fighting with a robot right now. I tried to make an image that was like off of a famous Barbara Streisand photo. That was you making out with yourself. Yes, of course. No, it was like the famous Barbara Streisand photo where she's like holding her nose. And this motherfucker was like, you can't do that. That's a real person. I'm like, what, what's happening right now?
Starting point is 01:04:59 I'm like, I'm also a real person, and I want it to be of my face, not, they're like, I'm like, she doesn't own this. What is wrong with you? Anyway, so yeah, I don't use it. No, they kept telling me that I was trying to make revenge porn, and I was like, it's me. Right. Let me fuck myself. I deserve it. Democrats planning, this is a quote from, I think it's financial times.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Democrats planning to run in November's midterm elections have been advised not to antagonize pro-AI. campaign groups that have amassed more than 300 million to fight for the industry's priorities. So it's not coming from them. Yeah. Why not? Antagonize them. They can't write any of their own slogan. They're going to have to rely on it.
Starting point is 01:05:39 What are they going to do? Send you a poorly generated email. That is exactly what they're going to do. Get them. Michael Foote, such a pleasure having you on the podcast. Where can people find you, follow you here. You see you all. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:52 You can listen to my podcast. Brief Recess is on IHeartreact. video, exactly right, media, anywhere you get podcasts, Spotify, Apple. It's really fun. It's a fun legal show. We cover all the current issues and the headlines, but then we have people on who are part of class action lawsuits. We have porn stars on, talking about the adult film industry and the legality behind it. We have all sorts of people come on the show. It's been really fun. Drag queens, psychopaths, the mentally ill. everyone comes as a guest.
Starting point is 01:06:28 So you can check up Reef Recess, and then I'm on Instagram and TikTok as Michael Foote. There you go. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay, so I, before the war in Iran,
Starting point is 01:06:43 I started watching the show Tehran. It's so interesting. And there's three seasons. The most recent season has Hugh Lorry in it. I've really been enjoying it. It's like an espionage show that takes place in Iran. it's super interesting, and the whole show takes place in Iran. So it's actually very interesting to watch right now
Starting point is 01:07:03 because I started watching it in January. I'm still getting through it. So I highly recommend. And then, of course, the comeback. I'm really enjoying watching the comeback. I love the comeback. Season three, I'm having so much about watching. Sophia, where can people find you as their work in media?
Starting point is 01:07:20 You've been enjoying. As always, that Sophia, S-O-F-I-Y-A, And, you know, if you like 90-day fiancé, you should listen to me and Miles talk about it on 420-day fiancé. A work of media I've been enjoying is this tweet from M underscore underscore Tina that says Vogue must pay for their crimes because it is a picture of Tracy Ellis Ross. Oh, yeah. And they've been calling her Afro a cloud bob. Yeah, the cloud bob. It's so messed up.
Starting point is 01:07:50 They called the Afro a cloudbub. They've literally written an article being like, you know what's stylish right now is this cloud bob? They gentrified the fucking Afro. Nothing is safe. No one is safe from, yeah. So Vogue must pay for their crimes. I fully agree. I agree.
Starting point is 01:08:10 Cloud Bob, Jesus Christ. I don't know if I'm going to recover from that. Oh, I can't because their article is also really serious about it. Wow. Yeah, they really whitewashed it. It's crazy. Work of Media, I've been enjoying, Aaron Blake, who I guess is CNN's senior legal correspondent. So I'm not advising that you follow Aaron Blake.
Starting point is 01:08:30 But he did point out someone posted, Hansen released Mbop 29 years ago, April 15th, 1997. And he said, Mbop is closer to the moon landing than it is to today. Wow. The fuck? Oh, that's really disturbing. I don't like that at all. That's distressing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:50 Why are you enjoying that, Jack? Why are you enjoying that piece of media? I really puts things in perspective. You like to cut yourself emotionally? I'm a cutter. I'm an emotional social media cutter. It's so hard. Yeah, literally.
Starting point is 01:09:03 You can find us on Twitter on Blue Sky at Daily Zikeis. We're at The Daily Zykeyes on Instagram. You can go to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it. And there at the bottom, you will find the foot notes. Food notes. There you go, which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. with Miles out.
Starting point is 01:09:24 We like to ask Super Producer Justin Conner, Justin, is there a song that you think that people might enjoy? Yeah, being that it's Friday, I wanted to recommend a song everyone can get loose to a little bit. This dance track has a very trippy dynamic going on because it's all big, booming bass with a lady rhythmically whispering soft into your ears. It's weirdly satisfying. The first drop, yeah, it's an earworm for sure.
Starting point is 01:09:51 And the first drop is fun, but there's like a Jersey bounce rhythm that takes over towards the end, and it really sends the song into another place. So this song is called Karma by Shima, that's S-H-I-M-A, and you can find that in the footnotes. The Daily Zy-Eyme-Hartrex is a production of I-HartRadio for more podcasts from My Heart Radio visit. The I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcast, wherever you list are your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this week. We're back on Monday with the next icon episode, and we have the weekly zeitgeist over the weekend. with highlights from this week. We will talk to you all soon.
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