The Daily Zeitgeist - Never Gonna Trend You Up, Never Gonna Zeit You Down 3/16: Girls, Chupa, Peeps, Christina Ricci, Meg White

Episode Date: March 16, 2023

In this edition of Never Gonna Trend You Up, Jack and writer JM McNab discuss the youth rewatching 'Girls', the trailer for the new Netflix movie 'Chupa', new Peeps flavors, Christina Ricci's 'The View' appearance, and whether or not Meg White was a good drummer!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Never Gonna Zot You Down. That's all I got. That's courtesy of Super Producer Brian and Rick Astley, my vocal coach. I'm Jack and I'm thrilled to be joined by our writer and researcher, Mr. J.M. McNabb! Hey, thanks for having me. How are you? Good. Good. Better now that I heard the Rick Astley.

Yeah. Oh, man. You remember when someone would just Rickroll you and you would just want to kill yourself so uh man just the shame the shame i'm still recovering from the shame of being rickrolled fucking whiplash man anyways let's tell the people some things that are trending shall we should we do that let's do it so there's a i don't know where was this article hollywood reporter maybe somebody's writing that millennials are re-watching girls i think it's the new york times the new york times is that real, it is. Yeah. Yeah. That's funny.

The New York Times. Front page. That's so perfect. Because the New York Times is like, just Lena Dunham is their reason for getting out of bed in the morning and has been since they went to a cocktail party at her friend's house or at her parents' house in the early nineties. And she like told them funny jokes as a three-year-old. And, um, God, there,

do you remember those articles? Like when girls first came out and it was like, all these articles were like, I used to go to cocktail parties at her parents' house and she was such a delight. She would just sit there and entertain us. So of course like the second that there is an upward trend in metrics of like people watching girls on hbo they're like

we've got we've got a front pager for you baby um but i don't know i do always like this is definitely a phenomenon that we see where a show from the past that we think we're like done with becomes very popular with people who didn't watch it the first time around. And Girls is, according to a spokesperson for HBO, viewership doubled between November and January compared with the previous three months. And there's just been a lot of TikTok chatter on girls. And there is the good soup meme, which is Adam driver eating soup and then saying in a very Adam driver, serious way, good soup,

I think is how he says it. Good soup. And then gives the a okay hand gesture to his bowl of soup, which is a lot of, you know, it was where we met Adam Driver. I'm a fan of his weird intensity and just very singular personality on screen charisma. So I watched girls didn't always love it definitely felt like a lot of the criticism

was earned with regards to it being a show made by people whose parents paid their rent who hadn't fully grappled with the fact that they existed in a weird world where their parents paid their rent that was different from the rest of the world but it was it was still like worth watching i would say oh yeah i mean i do think like to reading through this article it's not just people discovering it for the first time it's probably people that watched it and are kind of going back and you know sort of re-interrogating some of their feelings around it. Sure. Which makes it, and I feel like, yeah, that happens every so often. Like I feel like when friends came out on Netflix, people kind of did a similar thing where they all went back and were like, oh,

well, this doesn't hold up as well as, you know, it did when I was 15 or whatever. Sure. It makes sense to do that. And I wonder if, because, because it spiked last fall, like, I wonder if it was just like when everything started disappearing off of HBO max, people were like, well, this is our last chance to watch girls before some executive just takes it away forever. Yeah. Just puts it in his private basement collection. Right. Like Ursula. He just takes all the HBO shows that the rest of us used to be able to watch and keeps them in his little dungeon. Yeah.

Anyways, so if you hear, if you're at the diner and overhear someone saying good soup at their bowl of soup, now you know why. It's because Girls is on the comeback trail. Chupa is a new movie coming from Netflix.

That was clearly, I was ET ever on Netflix. I don't remember it being there, but this movie feels like it was algorithmically generated by a machine that, you know, was fed ET and something else. Um, feels like it was algorithmically generated by a machine that was fed ET and something else. Mac and me.

Mac and me. Yeah, they were like, okay, the two biggest hits of our childhood. There are shots that are... Not only is the plot, but there are shots that are very reminiscent of ET. The whole thing is heavily influenced by ET, but the there are shots that are very reminiscent of et like the whole thing is heavily influenced by et but the idea is a child meets a chupacabra and instead of being a horrifying

creature of myth that sucks all the blood out of the bodies of goats which the the name chupacabra is goat sucker like instead of going in that direction, they're like, what if adorable, you know, which sure. Um, there is unfortunately a controversy over the name though. Yeah. It's,

uh, it's cause it's just called Chupa, right? Yeah. Just Chupa. Well, they say it, I mean,

they say it in the, in the trailer, like they decided to call the chupacabra they adopt chupa right and one of the other kids is like you know that means sucker right right but i guess it also you know people who speak spanish are like well it also means suck as in you know a don't make me say it right sucker like the little candy that yeah exactly but i mean yeah it's extra bad because it's a family movie like you don't want to have any any sexual innuendo in the title of a family movie one would assume yeah or you do you know

who know maybe netflix's algorithm told them that. Yeah. That's what they were like. The two things people want that we can see in the algorithm is Christian Slater and titles that mean blowjob. Right. Yeah. Christian Slater shows up halfway through. He seems to be showing up a lot of different places. Still looks like Christian Slater.

So, and that was always the main thing I felt like he had going for him. Looks like Christian Slater. So, and that was always, uh, the main thing I felt like he had going for him. Looks like Christian Slater. But yeah, the, the creature in this, the Chupacabra is like this adorable, fluffy winged, uh,

teddy bear. Yeah, basically. But like the Chupacabra myth, like I remember reading that, uh, it was, it was inspired by,

I guess like coyotes and also the movie, uh, what was the movie? Species. Yeah. Remember that? And people discovering mutilated livestock, like, goats that had been desanguinated, like, for reasons that nobody has fully been able to explain. But the, like, image you have of it is horrifying. Yeah. you have of it is is horrifying yes uh just something that can like suck just anything

having all the blood sucked from its body rapidly that's scary to me and call me a weirdo but that is something that scares me a little bit that's that was the nice thing about et he didn't suck anyone's blood at any point he downed a few cans of beer, you know, in the middle of the day, but he wasn't drinking any. We all knew what that meant. We knew. He was telling Elliot, this is your ass if you don't do exactly what I say. For some reason, this story made me think of the article we did back at Cracked, which was insults from around the world. Ian Cheeseman wrote that one. And one of the very first one that we put at the top of the list, uh, was Chupay Montaquia,

Demi Kulo, which is suck butter from my ass. And I always thought I've always been impressed by the Spanish languages, uh, willingness to go there. Cause I've, I've had the thought of telling somebody to suck butter from my ass before. It was this, it was a scene in Girls, I think, right?

Yeah, that's right. The butter scene. Yeah, that was another thing that Girls kind of put on the map for mainstream culture was ass eating. Adam Driver and ass eating. And both showed up in Star Wars soon after. Yeah. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back and we'll talk about peeps.

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And we're back and peeps are going to be everywhere. I feel like I started to notice this last year when there were peeps flavored Oreos. So you were saying that Canada doesn't really have peeps as much as the U.S. does. I thought we didn't. And I looked it up and you can get peeps, but I don't think there's the culture. But you're not seeing them everywhere.

No, no. It definitely feels like one of those foods that is probably banned by nations with functioning health system, like regulators who look at what the content of food is and is like, this is marketed towards children and is mostly radioactive dye marketed towards children and is mostly uh radioactive dye and sugar in various forms um but yeah there was like a peeps flavored oreo that hit the market last

year a couple years back 2017 god uh i'm old but that always confused me because peeps don't have a flavor that is in any noticeable way different than like normal oreo filling which is just sugar they are their flavor is if you take a teens a teaspoon of sugar like raw sugar you put it in your mouth that's that's peeps flavor but i do love peeps as an icon like i like the peeps crocs um i like p like there's like peeps artwork and stuff like that i think it's a cool iconic design but anything where it's peeps flavored feels misguided to me although they so they do have flavored peeps which is like sour watermelon flavored peeps and that sounds great to me i never tried it but like that's what peeps which is like sour watermelon flavored peeps and that sounds great to me i never tried it but like that's what peeps should have been doing that all along because they don't have

anything other than sugar flavoring at this point but like to then also have peeps flavored other things is very strange and they have the peeps pepsi right like you can get peeps flavored pepsi well so they have dr pepper flavored peeps good idea and then peeps flavored pepsi right like you can get peeps flavored pepsi well so they have dr pepper flavored peeps good idea and then peeps flavored pepsi which doesn't make any fucking sense to me um peeps mike and ike flavored pop i don't know if that's the takeout casually using pop instead of soda but i think no that must be like a a popsicle of some sort but yeah so like that's gonna be my rule for uh the people all the ivy league graduates who are in the boardrooms making these decisions uh peep flavored anything doesn't make sense adding flavor to peeps does

make sense and then you can do anything with the shape of peeps because the shape of peeps is great and iconic and fun it should not be fed to us but i guess we're okay with that nothing that bright yellow should ever be edible i don't think but right we've gotten over that and it's iconic yeah and you can take it uh intravenously i assume yes peeps iv drip uh new this year yeah i'm just looking through this list it's like the things that are new in 2023 are the mike and ike pop the dr pepper flavored peeps peeps kettle corn flavored marshmallow chicks okay fine but we're flavoring the marshmallow chicks. Great.

These are all new? All these flavors? So the three that I just mentioned are new. And then they're bringing back the sour watermelon, but not the blue raspberry. So it's a bummer. It's a sad day. And then there are, sorry,

I had missed this part of the article. The other edible licensed Peep offerings this year, which demonstrate the breadth and depth of this candy's influence in 2023. So yes, we have Peeps flavored Pepsi. Bad idea. Peeps cake. Sure. I mean, if it's just like a marshmallow cake, fine. Peeps cereal.

Bad idea. Peeps whey protein that is a peeps collab with vitamin shop for only 35 you can take a protein supplement that tastes like peeps um and then for health nuts right for all the health nuts out there. And then Peeps Bunny Slides. Katy Perry collection. What? Bunny Slides. Like their shoes, I think.

Which I'm fine with. Okay. It's a Katy Perry collabo with Just Born. I'm here for any Peeps design things. I think they have a cool design. Right. All right. Christina Ricci is trending because she was on The View and spoke about working with her younger co-stars on Yellow Jackets and talked about how they're more empowered to set boundaries for themselves in a way that her generation was never allowed to.

And specifically recounting, uh, recounted that she was once threatened with a lawsuit for asking to do a sex scene in a certain way. Um, and so we think we know what this is all about, but first of all, it's just a good reminder that history is a nightmare.

We're all waking up from very recent history in some cases. But the suspicion would be that this is her role in Buffalo 66, the Vincent Gallo movie. That's just a guess. That's my my suspect. I'm saying that yeah my suspicion here is it's vincent gallo no but you're not saying that because you know apparently he likes to go around saying he's gonna sue people oh does he okay well allegedly he is somebody who filmed himself getting a actual blowjob on camera in Brown Bunny.

Yeah. Proudly and bragged about it and made that like kind of the selling point of the movie. And then. And then got into a huge fight with Roger Ebert. Yeah. Over that movie. Roger Ebert was like, this movie is bad. And he was like.

He's like, I hope your cancer gets worse. Yeah. Or something. Which is cool. And then he's like gone on to be just like a real right wing piece of shit but anyways uh she didn't like really go into details but it's just i don't know every detail about what it was like to be an actress in movies in the very recent like up until now and even into the future. But like it used to be so just wild over the top, no protections, no power on behalf of like these very famous women. Christina Ricci was 17 when she made Buffalo 66.

And Vincent Gallo called her a raving lunatic and barred her from bringing her mom to the shoot again. She called him a, she called him a raving lunatic. Oh, okay. Sorry. But he, yeah,

he would, he wouldn't let her mom come to the production and she was 17. Yeah. Sorry. He called her an ungrateful C word. Yeah. So my bad. Uh,

and also said she was basically a puppet. I told her what to do and she did it so my bad no it's his bad yeah yeah did you watch yellow jackets yeah yellow jacks is great she is great amazing in yellow jackets like truly i was like why has she not been in everything ever since like the last time that she was in everything you know for a long time and between that and wednesday i think people are realizing yeah yes how great she is yeah so great to have christina ricci back uh horrible to hear about how she was treated for a long time and finally meg white is trending because because this is a controversy that happens a lot where people are like, Meg White is a bad drummer from the White Stripes.

I mean, it's a controversy that happens a lot 20 years ago. Yeah, but it just keeps cycling back. I remember five years ago that this was a controversy again where people were like, Meg White was actually a bad drummer. And it's just like, really? was actually a bad drummer and it's just like really it was like the the point of the music was its simplicity and jack white's music has never been as good as it was when he was collaborating with meg white but anyways i don't know they people are pointing that out other people are standing up for meg white this is like inside drummer talk or something you know like people who are real into drum solos like yeah that's

the thing if we'll care about this if you're not a like a music critic i don't even think you know anyone would notice or care yeah that there weren't enough fills or right whatever yeah yeah that was always the thing they were like ringo like there were sometimes the like paul mccartney needed to fill in for Ringo Starr on the drums because he wasn't a good drummer. And it's like, well, guys, maybe our definition of what a good drummer is does not match up to what makes music that people enjoy because it seems like they had a good thing going there for a little while. seems like they had a good thing going there for a little while yeah it's also about like yeah the chemistry and like yeah how you perform and also yeah no she she was a fine drummer i don't i don't get this i do think like it's it also seems like it's kind of blown out of proportion like it seems like it was one guy tweeted something shitty and it's just like now jack white like wrote like a poem to defend her and stuff and it's like i don't know i kind of need to drop out of this story now that jack

white poems are surfacing yeah that's what that's always a great it's one of the five things that tell us it's time to drop out of a story on the day yeah this is jack white poems up here all right well those are some of the things that are trending on this Thursday, March 16th. We are back tomorrow with a whole ass episode of the show. JM, where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff?

You can find me on Twitter at JM McNabb again. There you go. All right. Until tomorrow, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to y'all tomorrow. Bye. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.

And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadson. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do,

like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.

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