The Daily Zeitgeist - New Coke, Who Dis? No Justice, No Infrastructure 5.23.19

Episode Date: May 23, 2019

In episode 398, Jack and Miles are joined by singer-songwriter and host of the Peace Of Mind Podcast Bhi Bhiman to discuss the return of New Coke, Hope Hicks and more being subpoenaed, the release of the new Aladdin movie, who your cartoon crush was, Christopher Nolan's new movie, Chris Broussard's 'friendship' with Kevin Durant, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. We regret to inform you that Stranger Things is bringing New Coke back from the Upside Down 2. House panel subpoenas Trump’s former top staffer, aide to McGahn3. Trump, who seemed to be having difficulties with his mouth, just had a public temper tantrum that doubled as a news conference of sorts4. How unpopular is Donald Trump5. WILL SMITH6. Gail Simone Asked Who Our Cartoon Crushes Are, and We Delivered7. Christopher Nolan’s New Movie Gets A Title, Final Cast As Shooting Begins8. Cap. Cap. Cap cap cap....u don’t have my number mannnnn9. Peace Of Mind with Bhi Bhiman10. WATCH: Bhi Bhiman - Brother, Can You Spare Some Peace of Mind? Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially off the top, fuck Coke Industries and fuck Fox News. It's Thursday, May 23rd, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. JaxiePad And I'm thrilled to be joined as always

By my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray Yes, it's your boy The Keith Leacy, smoker of strains Grayneris Miles Grayrian Your spoilers have been warned Mad like the storm born Burned kings landed to waste Like a clout rapper

Got tats on his face. I gotta post my throne's hot takes. And that comes from Andrew. At Bub, Andrew Bub. You know, that was a good, see that felt like a poetic AK. It wasn't just a string of AKs. It felt stream of consciousness. It felt like some shit I would have said, uh, what was the movie?

Uh, The Last Dragon. Bruce Leroy. Yeah, yeah. Like, Shownuff would have said. That's how I felt. Give me something to make me feel like Shownuff, and I will say thateroy. Yeah, yeah. Like, show enough would have said. Mm-hmm. That's how I felt. Give me something to make me feel like show enough, and I will say that this time. Also, I have to give a shout-out to Year of the Ant at MFC Erickson on Twitter for Photoshopping me as a SoundCloud rapper. Just all my favorite things tattooed on my body. Give me my new

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in our third seat by the artist and host of the Peace of Mind podcast Mr. B. Beeman what's up guys what's up man welcome

you guys are much more higher energy than me right now I'll have to bring it bring it up, guys? What's up, man? Welcome. Thanks for having me. You guys are a much more higher energy than me right now. I'll have to raise it. Bring it up. Bring it up. It's all about levels. Everyone's got to come in where they come in. We'll come down and leave where you are. Please. I'll do my high voice.

If you don't talk like this, I'll fade it. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today. We're talking about the fact that New Coke is finally returning because of Stranger Things. And I'm excited about it. I don't know. I know you.

I only know about New Coke because of you. Right. And I didn't know that people were pissed about it. You didn't? Well, no, because I think when it came out, I was like maybe one or two or some shit. So I wasn't really up on the beef between consumers and brands. Wait, so how do you know? What do you know about it from me?

You mentioned like how there was new Coke. I think when we talked about new Diet Coke flavors like a year ago or something, you talked about it. It's like they don't fuck with the recipe. And that's why they always talk about the original formula and why that's Fallout. Anyway, we'll talk about that. We'll talk about it. I've never tasted it,

but I'm looking forward to having an opportunity to taste one of the great failed marketing campaigns of all time. It can't be worse than Crystal Pepsi. Well, that's what they say. This was the 80s version of Crystal Pepsi. Before there was a Crystal Pepsi failure. It would be like Crystal Pepsi. Well, that's what they say. This was the 80s version of Crystal Pepsi. Before there was a Crystal Pepsi failure. It would be like if Pepsi was like, we are releasing Crystal Pepsi and old Pepsi's gone.

Right, right, right. We've replaced it with this. That's a big swing, guys. Yeah. We are going to talk about our first cartoon slash video game, Crushes. We are going gonna talk about the president had an interesting morning yesterday we're gonna talk about that what what happened basically took a shit in the Rose Garden yeah yeah yeah shit

front everybody Moby continues to just have weird things coming out of his I think people are just slowly like nobody actually read Moby's memoir. They're just sort of slowly reading it, bits and pieces at a time. And new information has come to light. We're going to talk about that and his response. We might talk about Boeing. We might talk about Christopher Nolan's new movie,

Will Smith's new movie, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, which hit Cannes yesterday or two days ago. Chris Broussard going way out on a limb, saying him and Kevin Durant are basically best friends. And we might even talk about Whitney Houston going back on tour. Yes, you heard us right. But first, B, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Oh, I didn't know it was supposed to be revealing. I guess maybe it will be.

Well, we're going to judge you. You can judge me. I don't know if it will reveal anything. But robot vacuums recently. I'm tired of doing it by hand. Okay. All right. You got pets?

A child. Does that count? Yeah child okay yeah yeah yeah even worse yeah no it's just like you walk out there's like a simpson episode where like marge cleans the kitchen then the swinging door opens and then it closes how old is your child five um she's not too bad but it's just like crumbs like yeah everywhere right lots of crumbs it's just like crumbs everywhere. Right, right, right. Lots of crumbs. It's like having that drunk homie over. Yeah. Who's like sloppy as shit. Yeah.

She doesn't pee on the couch. Right. Okay, let's get into planters. I thought it was a bathroom. I'm sorry. Yeah, kids are. I'm just, do you have somebody? When I said that, I thought very specifically of somebody that I used to hang out with.

Every time came over, this is like college, it would be so fucked up. I would find hamburgers underneath couch cushions. Because this dude would be eating, then pass out midway through, and then it ends up in the cushions. Yeah. I had a friend who passed out and woke up with the sandwich still in his hand. Just finished it. it oh that's a gift to himself on waking up yeah uh that same friend once uh woke up like came to while

shitting standing up uh so what i think he is that guy this is like some kind of superpower and that friend is me yeah are you that boy jack anymore uh doing it again yeah yeah but yeah robot vacuums are smooth yeah i mean they they are at the forefront of our robot technology. I do have a concern, right? I'm concerned about who makes like tech, whether it's apps or whatever. Sometimes you'll be like downloading an app and then if you like look into who makes it, it's like made in St. Petersburg, Russian Federation. Right.

Oh, what is that about? What are they collecting? And like Roombas or whatever. Yeah. I don't know. Made by the Navy. Don't worry about it. It's made by the Navy and they're just, you know, want to see how you defend yourself

when the Roomba comes at you. Roomba by Raytheon. Yeah. I was actually being stalked around my house by a remote control car and it was terrifying. My wife was like playing with my son's remote control car and they were having a big laugh and I kept being tripped by it. So humans are the evil ones, not the robots. Yeah, but I'm just saying one of these days, guys.

Wait, why was I stressing you out? Because you didn't know the technology of a remote control car. You're like, what is this? No, I just couldn't get away from it. She was just intentionally tripping me. I saw you were like, what the fuck? What is happening? Hey, hey, honey, this car. Come in here. It'spping me. I saw you were like, what the fuck? What is happening? Hey, hey, honey, this car!

Come in here! It's following me. Yeah, but I'm just saying, I don't trust those robot vacuums. As far as I can throw them. Man, the one I have about like 10 feet. I think my shit, I have cats and shit, so I gotta be on top of all the

feline hairball tumbleweeds that blow across like a shitty western. And some of the things, they're not the reserve tank for the debris, for the detritus. It's not like, it's not lit enough. It's not big enough, not capable, not appropriately sized for the amount of shit in there. So like half the time- You use lit for so many things. Yeah, everything has to be lit.

You know, everything's lit. The size of the Roomba's garbage reservoir, not lit enough. That's definitely true. It's like the size of a printer cartridge. Right. It's like, why not just make it bigger? Right. Like, add some space here.

There's like, oh, cheese at Crumbs? Yeah. Sorry. Another issue with the robot vacuums is they're perfectly sized to go under furniture and get stuck under there. Yeah. Yeah. And then start doing the beep. The one I have, I think, is janky because, like, my dad doesn't pay for, like, get the under there. Yeah. Yeah. And then start doing the beep. The one I have,

I think is janky. Cause like my dad doesn't pay full, like get the real version of things. He likes to buy like the off brand Roomba. And then his ass came up on some money and then buys a real room. He's like, Oh, I got this robot vacuum for you if you want.

I'm like, Oh cool. This shit like always would just get stuck in a corner and just be like this. Like help me type shit. More of a nuisance so is it vote of confidence on this i'm about to not buy one you guys uh yeah it's worth i mean it works when you uh get a new piece of technology like do you read the instructions and like program it

properly and if it's not like two hours long yeah yeah yeah then it's worth doing yeah and i think if you buy like the right one i think think if you cut corners on them, that's where you start seeing the flaws in it. Because I know plenty of people have like legit like versions of the Roomba or whatever the fuck the most, the nicest one is. And that one seems to work fairly often. Yeah. The company that makes it, iRobot.

Is that who really makes it? Yeah. That's kind of a brand new. Remy Malek's. Yeah. Right. It's the, it's like an Isaac Asimov story. I know.

A short story about the robots like rising up. Well, that came after the laws of robotics, right? Right. That you wrote that? Yeah. Anyways. Holy shit. You guys are talking about something I don't know anything about.

Oh, dude. Isaac Asimov, man. You don't need to. I'm just saying trust your Roomba, but always cut the cards. You know what I'm saying? Yep. What is something you think is overrated? Let's think about this.

KD. Kevin Durant? Slightly. Okay. I'm a Warriors fan. I've been since like Monte Ellis, Jay Rich. Oh, wow. Okay.

Chris Gatling? Yeah. Didn't Chris Gatling play for the Warriors? No. I'm just thinking of his head scar. Baron Davis. Yeah, Baron Davis. The boom-dizzle.

No, Baron Davis? Troy Murphy. Adonald Foyle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There we go. I mean, I'm not like old, old. I started rooting for him in 2000. But anyway, my choice was KD.

Yeah. Not that he isn't like the top two basketball player in the world or, you know, one of the best of all time, but he just holds the ball so much. Yeah. He just takes so much time. It's been really fun to watch the Warriors once he got hurt. Like, you know, you don't want anybody to get hurt,

but it's suddenly like putting putting them in a time machine back to the 72 win season yeah they're they're that team again and it's impressive just because i mean there's no adjustment time to get back into the steph being the primary guy yeah they just bounced completely back draymond like, you know, really stepped into a time machine. And I mean, it's what was fun about them in the first place. I still think with KD, you guys are harder to beat in the playoffs because the playoffs are just like grind it down until you figured all the different angles out.

And then it just comes down to sheer, like who has the most talent. And you guys have more talent than anybody in the history of the NBA with KD and maybe without him. Just a fact check. Chris Gatling was drafted by the Golden State Warriors in 1991. And then got traded? No, he was there until 96. Wow.

I just do all the trading cards from the early 90s. I have imprinted in my motherfucking mind. I think he's serving two and a half years for fraud right now. Is he? Yeah. Shit. Is he on an NBA Jam team? No.

He wouldn't have been, because that would have been like Chris Mullen and Tim Hardaway in that one, right? That's funny, because when we were talking about robots or video game crushes, I said my first video game crush was Chris Mullen's jump shot from NBA Jam, because that shit was so wet. What is something you think is underrated? Klay Thompson. Yeah, man. Yeah.

That's my underrated. Mm-hmm. Well, his D, his defense. His defense is incredible, and there's nothing in the NBA that's as fun to watch as Klay Thompson for the quarter when he gets hot and it's just like, there's something like locked in where it might as well be like robotics. He wargs into the ball. He just turns into the ball and the ball,

it's not a question of whether it's going in. It's like, how it goes. Will this ever touch the rim? Right. Because he's just like bombing from every different angle, and it's just always in so quick. His shot is hot and cold sometimes and really hot sometimes,

but his D is like always, he's always on it. He's always paying attention. He's always active. He's never giving up. And he's always taking on the most prolific scorer usually. I mean, usually. Are you feeling pretty confident heading into the finals i wasn't until the raptors took two from the bucks and then i'm like okay i think both those teams

are are beatable beatable for sure but when it was looking like a buck sweep i was like oh god like these guys look good yeah i think they're both pretty honest you know i think they'll both give you guys a series at least i think think it'll go like five, six. Yeah. It was crazy to go from the Rockets to the Blazers. I know. Backwards. Well, yeah.

Totally backwards. I mean, it didn't seem like the Warriors were really, and sorry for all the heavy NBA talk for people who don't pay attention to it. This is boring. We'll get through it quickly. But it was pretty funny how the warriors celebrated after beating the rockets it was like oh you guys know this is the champion surprising the way they're surprising they're you know celebrating and finally what is a myth

what's something people think is true you know to be false uh asians are good at math. I think Asian Americans are good at math. A lot because their parents came here for educational purposes and blah blah blah but the people who were not good at math are still in India and China. So maybe Asian Americans are good at math. Are you good at math? I am.

And you chalk that up to immigrant parents? My dad sitting over me at like 2 in the morning, like, doing math. That's, like, my mom, too. Because I would say, yeah, being half Japanese, like, I didn't go to, like, Kumon math or anything like that. But there was, like, an expectation of, like, how's that multiplication table? Right. It's incredibly important to, like, a lot of Asian.

Oh, yeah. It's annoyingly important to, like, do educational shit. And so, like, lot of Asian. Oh, yeah. It's annoyingly important to like do. Yeah. Educational shit. And so like, yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, Michelle White, I'm sorry you had to hold that L in second grade when we were doing times tables. You beat her. But there was no other option for me to not go home to my mother and say I did not smoke

everybody in the class in that time table. I was the second fastest. Wow. Well, I just, you know what I did? I just basically, i did it so much i didn't even multiply i just committed to memory the combinations and i wasn't even doing math i was like seven and eight is 56 like i would just fucking do i was on i don't know that's how i'd still do it well at first like i used to like multiply i remember the first couple

times i was like actually doing the math because I couldn't just instantly recall what the answers are. And then I realized, yo, Michelle keeps fucking me up. I need an edge. I'm like, I just got to black out on this thing and just see the matrix. And I did. And by see the matrix, I meant my mom screamed at me. Have you guys seen, what's that Kevin Hart, Tiffany Haddish movie? Oh, Night School.

Night School, and he's like, have you seen it? Nah. Oh, it's funny. You got to check it out. But basically, the Matrix thing is happening to Kevin Hart. Here you go. See, people experience the same thing. Yeah.

And I did say that I still do the memorization thing because I am in an underground multiplication racing league at nights where we put real money. Yo, that would be dope. You know, because it used to be like the grid, right? You do like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10. But you switch them up. So it's like 4, 2, 1. That way you really gotta fucking pay attention. Okay. It'll be a new game we

play at the Underground Times Table League. First rule of math club is we do not talk about math. I know. They're gonna be so mad at me. Fortunately, none of them can kick my ass. Yeah. All right. Let's get into the stories of the day. And as we mentioned, New Coke is going to be making a comeback. So I didn't realize that not that many people knew the story of New Coke. But yeah, at a certain point in the 80s, Coke was so scared of Pepsi that they... And Pepsi did this kind of brilliant trolling move

where they kept talking about the taste test, the Pepsi challenge, where they kept beating Coke in the Pepsi challenge, which was just a... You take a little Dixie cup of each and then ask people which they like better and people generally liked Pepsi every time like it was like a 70% test rate so coke re-engineered their whole product to be good in those

taste tests and we're like guys we did it we have new coke which is gonna be better than old coke it's to be even better than Pepsi. And people weren't happy about it. Was it that like Pepsi was sweeter than Coke or something? Wasn't there some kind of bias even like in how they presented it? Right. So the Pepsi challenge, the stupid thing is that the Pepsi challenge was a test that was invented by Pepsi. And it's not how people actually consume your product.

Nobody takes a small sip of the product. It's about how it drinks as an entire beverage. You sound like a Coke guy who's trying to be like, this is wrong. I've read a lot about this because I think it's so fascinating. There's also a little wrinkle in it that involves Bill Cosby that I also think is interesting. So anyways, it wasn't as good as regular Coke, neither was Pepsi. It's just that when you take a little thimbleful, the sweeter one wins every time. But if you're having to take multiple sips of it, it's like it becomes too overwhelming for anyone who's not like

seven years old. Yeah. and trying to melt their teeth. Right. So there was a huge backlash. They went back to Coca-Cola Classic, and this ended Bill Cosby's relationship with Coke. Prior to this, Bill Cosby was the pitch man for Coke. He was the face of New Coke, and he got really mad at Coke because he was like, yo, I put my face out there and said that new Coke was better than old Coke. And now you're making me look like a liar. And people were like, that's weird that he's that.

They're like, you're a rapist. Right, well, so they- And you're worried about new Coke? They weren't like that. They were thinking it. Yeah, they didn't say it out loud. The thing that was weird is that he was very stuck on people not trusting when he told them to drink

something oh that's right i remember you talking about this so like it i think there was like a subtle thing where he was like you can trust me like my trustworthiness when when i tell you to drink something is important like that's a big part of my brand uh so now but is the only difference that new coke was just like a sweeter mutant version of the old recipe? Yeah, it's sweeter than... And people were like, this is not the Coke I grew up with. Right. Was it like a...

I think maybe it was like a stunt like IHOP changing to like IHOB and they never really did it and they just... They put a lot of money in. Like it wasn't like a brief stunt where they're like, we'll go to New Coke and then go back to Coke Classic. They're like, this is what Coke is now, baby. Right. I think people in retrospect were like, that was brilliant, because sales for Coke went up after they went back to Coca-Cola Classic because people valued it. But it was an actual fuck-up. They put all their marketing into New Coke,

and then it was off shelves within a month. Well, all this to say that you can get your hands on a can of new Coke. Yeah. Because it's a promotion with the new Stranger Things season because, you know, the new season takes place in 85. So there's like a lot of retro marketing shit going into it. But apparently like on the they're doing like special edition glass bottles. And if you get that, they'll hook you up with a can of new Coke.

Right. So you can live the nightmare. Right. Just like everyone else did. Yeah. I mean, I think we should get it because I'm curious how far off it is. Right. Or if it's just one of those things that if you're like a Coke boy,

like it was fucking with your head, like you're like, mm-mm-mm, this is not good. I mean, people study Coca-Cola Classic in the food sciences world because it has like this great balance of like how sweet it is versus like mouthfeel or like all the shit that they care about in that industry and it like has a good balance and this one doesn't have that but it is i don't know i feel like as a as a spin-off product like why why wouldn't they just keep it? Just be like, no, this is new Coke. It's the really sweet one.

And their whole problem was just being like, there's not room for two types of Coke out there. Well, now we have, what, 7,000 kinds? Right, exactly. I think we've got room for that. New Coke Zero. Right. That'd be good. New Coke Lime.

Yeah. Or New Vanilla Coke. Yeah. So I don't know. We'll see. And maybe the world has changed so much that people will like New Coke better. I'd be interested to who their spokesman's going to be, like outside of Stranger Things. They'll cause me again, weirdly.

I did not see that coming. I was like, wow. Who should it be? Yeah, New Coke. Millie Bobby Brown? French Montana. Yeah. Let's do that.

Well, like Mountain Dew has like Sway Lee and like whatever. Right, right. But do they have to go to like Michael J. Fox or something like 80s style? Yeah, go back. And they're all old. Damn. Yeah, who do you get? I don't know.

Bruno Mars. Yeah, Bruno Mars would actually work. Because he's like throwback 80s kind of a little bit, you know? Don't believe me, just sip. And then boom, there you go. Yeah, da-da-na-na. Just writes itself. Yeah, or The Weeknd because he feels Michael Jackson so hard that you would get Michael Jackson in his prime if you were going to get anyone.

You could do a cool mock Michael Jackson video, like a thriller video with The Weeknd in it. That would be pretty dope for a commercial. But wasn't Michael Jackson doing Pepsi? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, but this was their attempt to defeat Pepsi. So then they should just go a step down and it would be like Rockwell. Right. We got Rockwell. We got Barry Gordy's son

Rockwell. In the 80s, soda companies seemed to gravitate towards rapists apparently. Yeah. There's something about it, man, because soda is poison. I think, at the end of the day, because the shit is terrible for you. Yeah. Mr. Rogers wasn't out here getting those big contracts.

No, he was working with Calistoga Water Company. Or something like that. Chocolate milk. Yeah, chocolate milk was the edgiest shit. Yeah, I always love that when it's the NBA and you have Kyrie doing a Nike commercial. And then I forget who the – oh, it's the center from the Celtics does chocolate milk commercials. And it's like he's like working out.

Al Horford. Yeah, Al Horford doing chocolate milk. Clay Thompson actually does one too. Clay Thompson does one too. It's like, damn, man. You couldn't get those Gatorade? What, do you care about my health as a raid? Right.

That's a bad yeah your agent fucked up so you give me gatorade um kind of all right so it's a thirst quencher for a very specific time it's chocolate milk for five-year-olds yeah uh all right we're gonna take a quick break we'll be right back Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia.

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I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that?

I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically Black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare

surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke.

I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really in here. I'm just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on.

From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained?

This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back! And President Trump! Woo! I always know it's a good day when And we're back. And President Trump, whoo!

I always know it's a good day when Miles comes in and I hear his phone the second he walks through the door. Because I know something's going down in the world of politics. You had the CNN or some news feed going live streaming on your phone. And sure enough, President Trump was mid meltdown oh man yeah wednesday was a day that we will soon forget because it'll be replaced by some other fucker but i mean so just background right the president needs some kind of a fucking win right i mean like he's saber rattling with iran no one and everyone's like i'm not fucking with that aside from the hawks that he has in his administration right the only real bill

that he actually passed uh like into law or signed into law was that tax scam and most people are like not no one can actually look at that and go my life is better unless you're at the you know top you know five percent ten percent yeah um and%. And then a bunch of executive orders. But nothing really tangible. And so there's a desire for a legislative win. He also is under a lot of pressure because the walls are starting to close in on many fronts with different legal battles. The House Oversight Committee, they subpoenaed his accounting firm to hand over his financial records. Because they're like, based on what we know, there's a lot of financial fuckery going on with y'all.

Like you're valuing shit at way over no auditing. Like we need to, we need to look at that so we can compare some shit. And they were refusing. So went to a court and guess what? Now we're, now we're at this phase with all this sort of stonewalling where now federal judges are the ones weighing in. And immediately his lawyers tried to argue he's like well i don't believe congress has like an oversight function in this in this certain situation and it doesn't seem like they have the actual authority to do that and the judge like immediately was like no hit the gavels like get the run the records give him the records that's the amazing thing because when i heard that was their strategy, I was like, well,

it's the president of the United States. He probably has an army of lawyers who have these really in-depth legal arguments that are going to tie this thing up in the court forever. But it's not. They're just misunderstanding the law, essentially. Yeah, I mean, nuh-uh. It's not a legal argument. It's not a legal argument.

Because that's essentially what they pulled up to this federal judge he was like i'm sorry did you really just say no okay you'll get the fuck out and get them those records on another front deutsche bank there's a hearing happening wednesday on whether or not uh deutsche bank is going to hand over records pertaining to the trumps and kushner because there were certain transactions that were flagged by their in-house money laundering task force of being like, oh, this looks like maybe some money laundering between these accounts in Russian

and Eastern European accounts based on shit we know about how money moves and the algorithms that are set up. So that's another possible thing that could come up that would be revealing. So look, that's all happening. On top of that, Hope Hicks has been subpoenaed to come talk to Jerry Nather.

She knows a lot. Yo, I mean. She was his, the fact that she was his prefrontal cortex for the first two years of his presidency would suggest that she knows quite a bit. I describe her as the president's ass wart. Okay. Just all up in there all the time,

seen everything and heard everything. Disgusting. Yeah. And it's funny if you remember her whole arc, like I remember she came out and said, yeah, sometimes I've told white lies for the president. Right.

That was the day before she resigned suddenly out of nowhere. So, you know, I, she's now at Fox, but I think like a lot of people who aren't like their last name isn't Trump or Kushner. I don't think they really want to keep doing this over and over and really just, you know, hitch their wagon to

the star by any means, because it's going down, I think. And then the other person who was subpoenaed was White House counsel Don McGahn's deputy, this woman, Annie Donaldson, who, this is a quote from the Washington Post. It says, so her function was just to be always at McGahn's side. And they say, quote, Donald's daily habit of documenting conversations and meetings provided the special counsel's office with its version of the Nixon White House tapes. Donaldson famously fretted in her West Wing diary, quote, is this the beginning of the end? When Trump insisted on

firing Comey in May 2017 and on mentioning the president was not a subject of the Russia investigation in his public termination letter. So these are people who have, like, you know, she's popped up in the Mueller report, this woman Donaldson, Annie Donaldson, and they have a lot of things they can tell more, I think, a few more details maybe they can illuminate. So these are kind of all the things that are swirling around Trump. So you'd think he would be just drenching the old bench to meet up with the Democrats who have said, hey, you know what? You know something we actually both can kind of see eye to eye on is infrastructure.

That's completely devoid of any partisan politics. We're like fucking roads. Yeah. Fucking broadband for rural areas in the inner city. I mean, the best possible outcome for him is that people are just like, we're of the russia shit we want to move forward yeah and do something that did seem to be how like a portion of the country was feeling after the muller report they were just like yeah he's not in jail so i guess we can just move forward like we're tired of having a president who's not doing anything and all he's doing is like bickering and bitching about what he did and didn't do like three years ago.

So there had been meetings between Schumer, Pelosi, Trump, and other Dem leadership all talking about infrastructure. They set a meeting for Wednesday. And it seemed like, okay, this might be able to happen. Because at least with infrastructure, that's like something that creates jobs and like tangibly improves people's lives. That's like some shit. People can look at their shitty road being fixed or broadband coming in and say, oh shit, I guess Trump's actually doing something. Right. But no, he has no interest in that because he only has one mind and that is to cover up what the fuck is going on. So prior to a meeting that was supposed to happen to iron out all the final details of how we move forward on the infrastructure plan, Nancy Pelosi was asked about the president,

you know, and his actions. And for the first time she actually said, she said, I believe he's involved in a coverup. He's engaged in a coverup, which before she was always like, I think there needs to be, she was dancing around shit all the time. Like, I think he needs, there's, you know, there needs to be more accountability. Uh, we need to learn more, but now she's like, I think he needs there's, you know, there needs to be more accountability. We need to learn more. But now it's like, no, I think this is a cover up. Right. So cut to this meeting. And Chuck Schumer describes it like it's very dark, like the president's mood was dark, like it was all just a very odd vibe.

And as they're beginning to talk, they're like, OK, so we need to figure out how we're going to pay for this infrastructure plan, because Pelosi was really framing it to the president of saying, you know what? Jefferson had a huge infrastructure plan because Pelosi was really framing it to the president of saying, you know what? Jefferson had a huge infrastructure plan. Teddy Roosevelt had a huge infrastructure plan. Like just pointing to other presidents who have had like these sort of like landmark infrastructure things like this is your chance to really kind of help tangibly improve the country. And you can, you can actually hang your fucking wig on that. And so that didn't work because he comes in and just sort of like look i'm not doing a deal if you don't fucking stop the investigations then there's no there's no infrastructure deal i don't care just stop the investigations and just walk the fuck out wow and

so then he immediately walks out to the rose garden where he for a you know impromptu meeting and i use air quotes right because they were he was acting like, or some people were trying to describe it as like not being planned. But when you go out there, he had a podium with like just graphics emblazoned on it and shit. Right. He had handouts for people. Like this shit was planned. Like he knew he was going to blow that shit up and try and basically say, you know, the Democrats, like we were going to do infrastructure, but they're so hung up on this Russia shit.

I can't deal. Yeah. Is that what the graphics said? No collusion, all that stuff. No, literally no collusion, no obstruction. And then the little thing, Mueller investigation by the numbers, 35 million spent, 2,800 subpoenas, 670, just all these other stats. And he pointed to that as like, I've been so transparent.

I don't get what's going on. I'm innocent or whatever. But yet he's still, I guess if he is so innocent, then why would he trying to constantly obstruct the Democrats ability to just basically verify that he's innocent then? Right. Okay. Then let me see your, let me see these records really quick and there'll be done quick. Right. clearly, this man is covering some shit up. And once he got out there, he just, it was Trump jazz all the way. Like, half the time, shit wasn't even making sense. The ideas were not connecting. Yeah.

It seemed like he was tired or just desperate. I don't know here. Listen to this greatest hits mixtape real quick of his Rose Garden press conference. Nothing wrong. Being transparent is better. So I said I did nothing wrong. Let's be transparent. So that's what you have. All of these things. Look at that. All of these things. 500 witnesses that I allowed to testify. It's a disgrace. So when they get everything done, I'm all set to let's get infrastructure, let's get drug prices down. In the meantime, we're doing tremendous work without them. We're doing tremendous executive orders, a lot of work.

We've had a great success, most successful economy, perhaps, in our country's history. Perhaps. We've cut regulations at a level that nobody else has cut them before. The largest tax cut in the history of the country. So we're doing a lot of work. All of a sudden, I hear last night they're going to have a meeting right before this meeting to talk about the I-word. The I-word. Can you imagine? I don't speak to Russians about the i word the i word can you imagine i don't speak to russians about campaigns when i went to wisconsin and michigan and pennsylvania i don't say oh let's call russia maybe they can it's a hoax it's a hoax you know not believable at all that i believe i don't know

that i believe our president i believe our president and Putin. Yeah. Right. I believe Putin, our president. You know, so he blew that up. And again, he also basically admitted, I'm not going to do it. Like, I can only do one thing at a time. And right now, as president, I can only fight these investigations.

I can't lead on anything else. I can only fight these investigations. I can't lead on anything else. So he's holding the country hostage in order to get this investigation to stop. Yeah. Which like how I I'm trying to figure out because I, I just always have a hard time wrapping my mind around like what the people who still support him or approve of the job he's doing. Think what is their version of this where they're like,

well, yeah, of course he's doing that because what? Because Democrats are so hell-bent on smearing this president and it's so unfair, why work with them on anything? They're the baddies harassing him. Because that's your job. No, no, no. What's a job? Right. I don't know what that means.

All I know is the president is asking congress to abdicate their constitutional duty uh and their oversight role if they want to get any kind of infrastructure plan done he did that with with the border wall he just holds people hostage and then nothing really happens we just forget i guess yeah but i guess now it's really showing like on just on many levels right even for like you can tell pundits on fox are getting tired of it some people do say like i wish he would just get over like just get this over with and do stuff right because there's not that many things people can actually point to aside from the shit he just talks out loud about the economy's

great but i'm sure if you ask people like have you did you get a raise at work right is your insurance coverage better do you have is your health care better okay then how the fuck has he improved your life aside from seeing the harassment of people of color or separation of immigrant children at the border like unless all your calculus is based on how much pain you're seeing on the screen then he's done fuck all right um so yeah i think that's their version is like yeah that's the only way he can fight back. It's like, oh, if you don't stop your bullshit investigations, then we'll do nothing then. But if he's innocent, why is he so desperate in their mind to get these?

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Why are you asking a follow-up question? Well, he had his whole thing about, you know, an attack early on in his presidency, and it worked, I think, where it was like an attack on me is an attack on your choice as president. They're trying to get rid of me because they want to ruin that. But him releasing his accounting records or whatever has no bearing on Americans at all. It's not an attack on them. Nothing's going to happen if there's nothing to find out.

All the stuff that they're looking into is stuff that would completely compromise a president. It's not character assassination. It's not trying to find out if he got a blowjob from the intern in the Oval Office. This is about whether he has financial ties to foreign governments. Are you in the pocket of a foreign government? You're the leader of the, this Republic quote unquote. And the fact that his response to that is to just like clear the fucking,

all the pieces off the board and slam it on the ground and walk out of the room is really like, it obviously I've given up on like any semblance of, you know, efficiency or him wanting to do anything other than argue with people. But I just don't see... I mean, his approval on 538, which averages all the approval polls, his approval is going down and his disapproval is going up. So I mean, I guess I'm just always curious, like, is this the one? There's that Michael Che joke where he's like, wait, so we got him, right?

Oh, right. No, nothing matters. Is that John Oliver, you mean? No, no. Oh, John Oliver does it, too, where he hits the button, and then the streamers come down, the band comes out. We got him. No, Michael Che was like, oh, really?

Nothing matters anymore. Right. Nothing matters. Yeah. But, yeah, it just seems like i don't know i'm just waiting for that moment to come that apparently happened in watergate where people were like oh right well and i think that's guilty well there's even a fox poll where people were saying like they believe robert muller over the president william barr like even fox viewer like that was a fox news poll yeah so even those people are starting to even be like well i like the president William Barr like even Fox like that was a Fox News poll

yeah so even those people are starting to even be like well I like the president but they're I think they're trying they can even tell they're like why is he hiding all this stuff right he's probably innocent but it's like I don't know maybe you believe that but other people might not and just another a sweet sweet bit of information so uh Amit Mehta is the federal judge who ruled in favor of the house Oversight Committee to get those banking records. Naturally, Trump was just like, this is crazy. You know, and saying, we're

going to appeal. They appealed, meaning it now will go up a level to the federal courts. Go to the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals. Getting juicy. And you know who's the head of that circuit court? I do. Merrick Garland, the man who did not become Supreme Court justice, could quite possibly be the one to just preside

over that. And not to say he's just going to be obviously out for revenge, but if clearly judges before him were like, this is so intellectually bankrupt on its face, this argument. I don't know how well he's going to do with that. I think this one time we're totally willing to overlook him being unprofessional and completely intellectually bankrupt in the opposite direction. They've done that. Like their supposedly legitimate dude, William Barr, has just gone full Fox News pundit on us. Well, I mean, even here, like there's not even a reason because it's so clearly like

the law is so clear on what Congress is able to do. That's their whole job. And executive oversight. Right. And his defense is literally, no. Yeah. So that is not going to go well. You don't even have to be a professional.

You just have to be like, what's the law? OK, you're good. Yeah. Moving on. Yeah. One of the I mean, this isn't related exactly to it, but just the Trump stuff. And it's just like, I remember before he got into office, he was voted in, but he hadn't arrived to D.C. And it was like, I was reading articles where like FBI is like spokesman or somebody from the FBI, you know, was anonymously saying,

we have to imagine that there's eyes and ears of the Russians in the White House once he gets in. So one of the most interesting things I could imagine is like his Secret Service detail. Somebody in his Secret Service detail is like ready to flip on a switch to arrest him or something. There must be somebody within his orbit that is aware of what's really going on and and keeping an eye on him and not the way he thinks right and still have to be a subordinate yeah but like appear as if they're like man the shit i fucking see bro it's like the bodyguard show have you seen that oh yeah on netflix yeah yeah it's kind of like that a little bit except maybe nobody's sleeping with him but yeah um yeah. You never know.

But then you worry about the people in the intelligence community who we've been forced to the point where they're who we're rooting for, but they've always been the biggest villains in U.S. history. And I could easily imagine them being like being like well it's great to have this completely lame duck idiot who were just at who were able to you know say you're under arrest if you don't do exactly what we want like going forward i don't know not now we're spinning off into conspiracy theory land but i just i don't like the position we're in as a country. Nobody does. Yeah.

You know how – sorry, one last thing. You know how they – I forget who it was that said that they opened a counterintelligence operation on Trump like in 2017. Did anybody ever say like they closed it? No. So, I mean, he's a valuable asset to keep collecting information. Well, and yeah, and the House Intelligence Committee just got some new documents that weren't in the Mueller report. So we'll see what happens there. There's all kinds of shit floating around.

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how can we not participate in this hashtag oh really how can we not talk about lola bunny i'm like i well because lola bunny's not my first cartoon crush. Yeah, this is something we found out. So Miles, famous for being sexually obsessed with Lola Bunny, is kind of his thing, but she wasn't your first. No, my first would have to be Psylocke from the X-Men. X-Men. And very specifically, there was a 1991 issue

illustrated by Jim Lee, the great Jim Lee, where it was like a poster, but the poster wasn't like an action scene. It was all the X-Men chilling at the pool. Wow. So you got to see all the characters in their bikinis. Okay? And Rogue has a little bit like a short wetsuit

kind of thing going on. Aurora, Roman, Rose Storm, she got like the nice little 90s bikini going on. But Psylocke is sunbathing, I remember very vividly. And she, I can't forget her. Wow. And what was Wolverine wearing? Wolverine is wearing jorts.

Jorts? He's wearing cut-off jean shorts, I believe, is what his outfit was. Yeah. That sounds about right. That's pretty hot. Those are his jorts. But look at Psylocke right there. The Bob Weir look.

She is just getting her tan. Wow. And then Cyclops looks like he's a beach volleyball player. I thought you said Cyclops at first when you said Psylocke. I'm not a huge X-Men fan. I was like, yeah, James Marsden? Oh, I mean. So, B, what about you, man?

Mine's not that cool. It's definitely like Sunday newspaper funnies. It's like Blondie. Oh, really? Blondie? Is that what it's called? I think that's what it's called. No, I think you're thinking of Kathy?

Yeah. Act? Act? My name is Kathy. Yeah. Ack? Ack. My name is Kathy. Close second. Blondie, the wife, the biggest. Dagwood? Yeah, Dagwood, the world's biggest overachiever. Yeah, yeah.

Those were. Not very cool. Not very cool. No, but it's all different. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. That's where you discover things. You know what I mean?

Yeah. That's why I love women with purple hair yeah there it is April O'Neil and Jasmine oh yeah cuz April O'Neil had the weird like yellow thing where you like she was untouchable because like the male leads were turtles right so like it had the vibe of like the older girl that like didn't even know you existed type thing i feel like that that played into it with april o'neill and then jasmine was just really hot did she hook up with casey jones in that in the movie i don't know there is something between them searching for humans i feel like in the first movie they

kind of had like a little bit of back and forth. I don't know. I'm sure somebody will holler at me on Twitter about that. What about video game characters? Did you ever have a video game crush? I don't think I had a video game crush other than Chris Mullen's jump shot in the original NBA Jam. Weddy, Weddy. Detlef Schrempf.

That would be mine. Okay. Detlef Schrempf and Sean Kemp. They were a powerful duo. I think mine would be, I guess, Dikembe then yeah me uh i i think the only person i could really think of is like i wasn't into like you know peach or princess toadstool whatever name is from mario yeah uh street fighter oh yeah street fighter yeah quite a few chun li chun li yeah you know i liked her dress with the weird front and back flaps yeah um and but laura croft i think i'll that'll always be there i was out on video

games by that point i think oh shit that's early yeah it was like 96 or something when the first tomb raider came out yeah that was right around when i quit um that's right when i quit to get off the sauce had to get off got lost in the sauce that's right, when I quit, I had to get off the sauce. Had to get off. Got lost in the sauce. That's right. Yeah, well, anyways. All right, well, I guess let's get back to work. Let's talk about Metacritic Watch, because this is something that we have been keeping our eye on,

is the new live-action Aladdin comes out this weekend. Ever since the trailer, I've been very curious to see what the response was going to be to this because first of all, I always kind of keep an eye on Will Smith movies because he has been on this unprecedented losing streak in terms of

his tomato meter. Yeah, his tomato meter, he hasn't had anything in the red since Men in Black 3 and he's had some wild flops. On the tomatometer? On the tomatometer, yes. Bright, 25. Collateral Beauty, 14.

Suicide Squad, 27. Concussion and Focus were close at 59, 56, but Annie, 28. Winter's Tale, 13. After Earth, 11. A Man's Story, 28. Winter's Tale, 13. After Earth, 11. A Man's Story, 33. Yeah, so he's had a crazy bad run, and there's no reason his run should be that bad. He's such a talented, like he's such a great movie star,

but for some, like I don't know if it was just he got so famous that he stopped being able to see movies the way other people saw them. I think he only saw checks. Right. That's all you're looking at. You're like, how much for that? No. I think he wanted to make good movies, right?

Well, Jack, you just demonstrated to me that he doesn't not know what a good movie is. Right. That's what I'm saying. Is it that he just doesn't give a shit or is it that he was trying and was just missing the mark every time i don't know i mean i'm not mad really either way because just get your get your checks once after earth hit i started having the feeling because that was it was like a scientology a metaphor that wasn't quite right about scientology but it had like some themes that I was just like, maybe this dude's like off.

Is he Scientologist? There's always been rumors that he's Scientologist. He's a good candidate. Right. He's a great candidate. Help him and Jada. Yeah. But then,

and he and Jada, I think started their own school for that. The gifted Xavier school for that. Right. That taught some stuff that was like Scientology adjacent, but. But I think ultimately they said they were not interested. Yeah. They ultimately said we're not in it.

And everybody I've talked to says both them and their kids are like the loveliest, like greatest people you've ever met. I got to work with Jaden before and he was a really nice kid. So I'm always pulling for him, man. I hope Aladdin, and so the early reviews, anyways, back to Aladdin. The early reviews are that it's actually not terrible, which is exactly what's being written. Every single review is,

I was expecting a big pile of shit on the screen covered in blue. But you know what? Not that bad. There's always this sort of caveat, right? Big pile of shit on the screen covered in blue. Yes. But you know what? Not that bad. Yeah. Because everyone, like, there's always this sort of caveat, right? Where it's like, just so you know, thought it was going to be terrible. Right. Wasn't that bad.

So I'm not sure what that actually means. Yeah. That it was maybe only slightly above what their expectations were, which was, like, utter disaster. Right. But they say, like, whenever Will Smith is on screen, it's really good. And then when he's not, they say the film really suffers. Yeah, and I've heard that the CGI with the genie still isn't that great. It's just Will Smith is carrying it by just being super charismatic.

But Aladdin is currently at 61%. So if it can just stay right there, it will get... What do you have to beat? If you're over 60, you get the tomato and not the green splat. Tomatometer. Ah, the tomatometer, yes. So, you know, this is the sort of thing that I'm paying attention to, guys. Just really pulling for Will.

You're like, come on. Pulling for Will. You have a party. I mean, I was raised on Fresh Prince. Like, that was my favorite show when I was a kid. I watched every motherfucking Will Smith movie up until,

when I really look at this list, where did we split apart? I think after... All those that you listed, I have never seen in my life, but I've seen like a bazillion Will Smith movies. Right.

But none of those bad ones. Never saw Hitch onward. Did you have a... Saw I Am Legend. Did you have the cassette of He's the DJ, I'm the Rapper? No, I did not have that.

Okay. I go that far back. Well, yeah. I mean, you go pretty far back in general. I'm old is what I'm saying. Other things in coming attractions. We can call this the coming attractions section. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood came out in Cannes.

Is that Quentin? Yeah, Quentin Tarantino's ninth film. He's apparently only going to make 10. He said he's going to retire after his 10th. So this is the second to last movie. Great, great. And so it was confusing because the Drudge Report, which I kind of keep an eye on,

he has this bias where he wants everything that ever comes out in movies or entertainment to be terrible. And so he was exerting these reviews that were plotless, meandering. But when you check Metacritic, it's actually the second best reviewed movie of the year so far it's at 92 which yeah people are saying it might be his best movie since pulp fiction uh which is a strong statement since yeah pulp fiction actually debuted at con 25 years ago to the day oh really uh yeah good for him welcome to hollywood or that uh once Or Once Upon a Time in Hollywood came out. Welcome to Hollywood is a different movie than I'm writing. And then another coming attraction, Miles, you brought to our attention, Chris Nolan. Well, look, I'm a Chris Nolan fucking hoe.

Right. Okay? Except I've never seen interstellar. Right. Because I'm such, because I had, not that I think he, his movies are perfect,

but that was the first time I remember people went to Chris Nolan film. They're like, uh, I mean, yeah, you can just check it out on the big screens. We're checking out like that. And I get like,

and I don't think it's bad, but for whatever reason, I just avoided it. Cause I was just, I had this idea in my mind about his, know his uh his ability it's a really high bar for a failure like it's a it's a really interesting failure but it is yeah like worth like no yeah because no one said don't watch it right it's worth watching it was one of the first times people weren't like whoa yeah go see that shit anyway so i'm always like i'm always interested in what he's working on and this latest

film has been kind of secret. We haven't really known much. But now we have found out that shooting has begun on the new film. It's called Tenet. And look, it's got the usuals. You've got Michael Caine. You've got Kenneth Nolip's Brana. Aaron Taylor Johnson.

Clemence Posey. John David Washington, Robert Pattinson. There's a few different people. And so it's an original screenplay he wrote, and they describe it as an action epic about international espionage. And it's like shooting in like seven countries right now.

Wow. So, I mean, knowing him, he likes his visuals, so I'm sure he's going to soak up all the unique locations and things like that. It's got the same DP as Dunkirk, Van Hoytema. And the score, Black Panther composer, Ludwig Gorenson, he's also doing the score.

So this could be, you know, it's no, like, who's doing the last one? Howard Shore or Zimmer? I think, anyway, Hans Zimmer, I think, did the last couple. But, you know, I think it's going to be interesting. The thing that really gets me going about Chris Nolan is that I just love his insistence on the way his films look. Like, coming out of the 90s and into the early aughts, like, everything was just CG. And there's a complete departure from, like, using miniatures or doing, like, practical effects in camera. And so when Chris Nolan came out and you realize,

oh, yeah, that's kind of the secret to his sauce. He really, really insists on doing as much in camera as possible. And I think it shows in sort of how breathtaking a lot of the visuals in the films are. But we'll see how this goes. That sounds dope. I mean, international espionage, seven world locations. This kind of DP, it's a Chris Nolan script.

I hope it doesn't have gigantic plot holes, but hey, you never know. He's great at making movies with plot holes that you don't notice while you're watching the movie. Yeah, exactly. Great first-time viewings. Yeah, he's good at movie magic. Now we just need to get an update from Wes Anderson, and we'll have the trifecta of filmmakers, dudes in their 30s and 40s love. Let's talk about Chris Broussard real quick.

So this dude is like one of those talking heads on ESPN, usually with basketball. And he came out with a take that Kevin Durant, what is happening right now with the Warriors winning without Kevin Durant is his nightmare, is Kevin Durant's ultimate nightmare. And Kevin Durant tweeted back at him and was like, ultimate nightmare? Don't you think you're being a little strong there? And so Chris Broussard went on ESPN and people were like, so it looks like he clapped back at you and he was like, clap back at me.

Clapped back. Clapped back. So the thing you have to understand is Katie and I have a love-hate relationship. We've texted for, and this is a direct quote, we've texted for two, three hours straight about life, basketball, media, faith.

Media. He went in. They have an ellipsis here, but then he starts talking about how they share a faith and Jesus Christ is both their saviors. And then he says, KD has gone at me much harder privately. We make a living critiquing athletes. It would be hypocritical of us not to be able to take it. And so I was like, wow, we didn't know you and Katie were like that.

Very close. Kevin Durant came back at him on Twitter and said, Cap, Cap, Cap, Cap, Cap, you don't have my number, man. Oh, Cap. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't have my number. So.

Did Chris Broussard explain that? Mm-mm. He was like, well, then who have i been texting right so that's the question marcus thompson of the athletic right that's the question was he being catfished by somebody to convince him that he was kevin durant and like having really in-depth conversations with him about faith i mean it's it's either. So what? The possibilities are Kevin Durant is lying and he doesn't want to make it look like he has a relationship. Chris Broussard is lying. Right. And he's just fucking making all this up to look good. Or Chris Broussard is telling the truth and Kevin Durant is telling the truth and Chris Broussard was talking to somebody else.

Yeah. That's the version I prefer. Oh, I would love to him go on the text thread and be like, yo, who the fuck is this then? Right. It's such a big- So somebody talks shit about you on Twitter and someone asks you about it and to come back on national TV and just be like, we are best friends in Christ is like such a big swing, man.

Like that is, yeah. He really put it out there. I guess I wonder if he did that to sort of make it like unassailable. You know what I mean? Like, oh, we're best friends in Christ. Oh, you're going to question that? Right. This is my best friend in Christ.

And I'm sorry, what were you about to say? Yeah, yeah. About our Savior? You can't really say anything. I mean, unless you're like me, would have been like i don't all that aside i think you're lying sir yeah that's the facts call him right now call that number i want to hear his voice yeah i i do wonder if he then called the number that he had been texting with or if like that tech like hey man this is todd yeah i wonder if like right after like that tweet

came out from kd they go up to Chris and be like Yo he just said you don't have his number And he goes oh really And tries to pull up his thread Right And then just like They're like okay call him Or if he does

If he was lying How uncomfortable he would have been He's like oh I actually delete the thread Because you know I don't want people getting his number Anybody who knows Chris Broussard Let us know what's going on Yeah please

Did he come with the thread Did he show you what was going on Did he come with the thread? Did he show you what was going on? Did he come with the thread? Was he left on read? Right. We don't know. We do not know. We just don't know.

This is our new we just don't know. Yeah, our new Mueller report. Yeah. B, it's been a pleasure having you here, man. Thanks. Where can people find you, find out more about you, listen to you? Yeah. You can go on bbman.com my name is not obvious

to spell so i'll spell it out uh it's spelled b-h-i-b-h-i-m-a-n it's bbman and um you can google that and go on uh my website and you can find all my music there but on spotify elsewhere itunes all that and um i did something unusual i released an album about a month ago and uh or maybe a little over that but i released it as a podcast and you guys like your podcast oh yeah um and i did it because i had released like a socially i've written and and recorded a socially political uh conscious album about this crazy time in America, this Trump world. And, you know, in a lot of avenues in music, being political sounds like it's acceptable and okay, but nobody's, a lot of people just don't care and they want escapism.

Right. And so if you look at the top 40 and whatever, I mean, you see that. You don't see it reflected like you do in TV and in podcasts and in comedy and stuff. Sounds like you just don't know the subtext of Old Town Road, dude. Dude, I saw the video for that yesterday, reluctantly, because I was like, that's stupid. But I like the video. I was like, this is almost like as powerful as like, this is blasphemy, so you're going to fucking kill me.

But this is blasphemy so you're gonna fucking kill me but um this is america video like it kind of had a big impact on me because it was like playing on like racial things and also things that he was going through and and like just like bringing black and white together and it was like more of that more of that from the song uh the only downside was the billy ray cyrus uh verse i didn't really like that but But the video's kind of cool. Dude, that verse, I remember we were reading it and we were like, oh man, he really found this verse. I was like, God.

What was the one about Gucci or some shit? Yeah, I was like, you can't throw that in there. Something with a Fendi sports bra or something like that. Oh yeah, right. Oh shit, Billy. It was bad. The whole thing was bad. I was like, I left the room and then I walked back in when he was done. He ended strong, maybe.

Yeah. Maybe. Oh, I think so. I actually thought his verse was fire. If you actually go and if you look on Genius and see what Billy Ray Cyrus was really saying when he said, baby's got a habit, diamond rings and Fendi sports bras, riding down Rodeo in my Maserati sports car. Right.

Dang. He was talking about consumer culture. Bras and car. Yeah. Or he was talking about Miley Cyrus. Right. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Baby's got a habit. That's awesome, man. So yeah, I released it as a podcast. So like each song on the album has to do with a different social or political theme. And so one of them is about voter suppression. And I talked to the director of the ACLU's voting rights project for that. Um, one of them is about kind of madness in America and mental health a little

bit. So I talked to Glenn Washington. He's the host of snap judgment. Um, great podcast. I talked to author Dave Eggers and a social psychologist and we kind of like dig in and usually i'm like the dumbest dude in in these conversations with this which is how i like it um

and uh because you know i'm not there to talk much you know i'm shepherding the the whole thing right and my music is kind of the soundtrack and i don't know if you guys make music or whatever but like i use stems and stuff to kind of score the thing kind of sound design each episode so each episode is one song and I I do sub mixes meaning like you'll just hear the drums and the bass or whatever whatever I choose to kind of elevate no I've been listening it's really good and I like it's it's such a great balance because then you'll even begin talking about your process on writing the song so if you're like a music nerd you get to hear like, like when I first listened to Lawyers, Guns and Money, I really thought it was a Bonham like sample you ripped.

But then when I listened to you actually talking about it, you're like, oh, no, I use this program to make it sound like big ass John Bonham drums. Yeah, it's I think. And also, yeah, just with all the sound design, it's a really dope podcast. I think if y'all like anything we do, listen this too yeah please that's groundbreaking you're gonna be the first to listen to a album released on podcast and yeah i feel like that's gonna be a trend i will say this real quick i've had people confused or like roll their eyes two times in the back of their head when i tell them that i released my album as a podcast. They're like, oh, God. But I did it in a way that I think is unique and true to me and this time. It's almost as if there were a special edition DVD about your album,

in a sense, right? If you just released the album as these tracks, if the deluxe edition would have been you talking about these issues and how they influenced the actual compositions themselves. So really, really dope liner notes to the album. You're getting the deluxe edition up front. Yeah. But the thing that you're totally right.

And the thing that people misunderstand is that I literally had the album ready to go. And then I made the decision to do the podcast after. It's not like I'm like, oh, I need to do a podcast and the right music like right based on this conversation yeah like the Foo Fighters had a TV show on HBO like a few years ago and they were like making a record out of the show and I was like yeah I don't know like they're just phoning in it felt like they were phoning it in but yeah this album is inspired by podcasts this song is called cereal um was dave eggers cool yeah i've known dave for a bit um he was like the first guest he was the first guy interviewed um yeah he's a cool dude he's he's very passionate about you know politics but really just how we move forward and tackling problems as honestly and as best as you can.

And he's really involved with children's education, and that's very cool. I just read – just bought a children's book written by him. I didn't know he was writing children's books. But I am – if you are a Chris Nolan hoolan ho i am i am a huge dave eggers ho okay uh all right i'll pass that on yeah please let him know b is there a tweet you've been enjoying oh yeah um kind of been on a self-imposed twitter exile but i did find one. Tom Thunkett. Facebook is now using AI to identify pictures of weed to stop users from dealing drugs on the platform. What the fuck? However, people being slaughtered in Myanmar and Bangladesh is not really a top priority.

Yeah, we just like to fan the flames of hatred across the country and look the other way when they're like, We're dedicated to making sure that our platform is not used to that, but we know the difference between broccoli and some super silver haze. I'm glad the money's going to that. I didn't know people were, you know, hooking up for weed deals on Twitter. Yeah, I mean, honestly, just DM me. You know, don't be a herb out here on Facebook trying to get a sack. It looks weird.

Miles, where can people find you? Twitter, Instagram, at Miles of Gray. And maybe in your Facebook feed if you're looking for an eighth up to a quarter. No QPs, though, because then it gets messy. Let's see. A tweet I like is a couple. They're both from Reductress. This one has, has like two disappointed

women as the image just like looking at the camera like uh very disc they're just like they've given up it says oh friends on weekend trip just want to have fun and also resolve their deep-rooted issues with each other in two days it's like i feel like i hear about trips like that and another one says woman sad game of thrones is over after eight years of hating it i've noticed a new thing that's emerged since the end of the the finale or just in this like during this last season is that people have created personalities that are all about well i don't i've never fucked with game of thrones like that's how i've seen people as whole personalities on social media shift to like well i was I was never fucking with it. Right.

So y'all are dumb. And I'm like, okay, well, look, whatever you got to do to feel good. But, you know, do you. Live yours. So you spent like hours and hours of your life watching something that you hated the whole time? That's wild. Well, I know people who do that too, yeah.

Yeah, I guess hate watching is the thing. Oh, and one more thing, something you won't hate. Tee Public, okay, where you get all of our merch. They are having a flash sale. It's going on all the way until Friday. Look, everything's 35% off. And the regular tees are going for $13. So please help to show out and buy some Zeitgang merchandise or Zeitgeist.

Whatever kind of merch you want. But help us keep the lights on and get that merch. A tweet I've been enjoying is Allison Agostosti tweeted body suits get your pussy in your shirt that should be their slogan we're body suits to have one uh you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,

as well as the song we write out on. Miles, what's that going to be today? Well, it's not often we get to do this, but let's write out on a song by our guest. Yeah. From his album. And, you know, I love all the songs on here. I want to let people know off the rip, episode one, it starts off with a banger. Okay?

And also, I don't mean to offend. I don't know if it's offensive to compare you, but your vocals remind me of Tunde from TV on the Radio a bit. That's cool. Or just stylistically, I really love everything about your music. And I was just, like, engaging with it through the podcast. So, y'all, check this shit out. And this one is called Brother, Can You Spare Some Peace of Mind? Do you want to tell us a little bit about it really quick?

Yeah, sure. Brother, Can You Spare Some Peace of Mind started off with, like, feeling of just like, I don't know, maybe it's just Trump. Where you're just not settled. There's no peace of mind. It's a riff on this idea, or this old song called Brother, Can You Spare a Dime? It's like an old, what do you call it, depression era song. And so I thought it was real clever clever and i changed it to peace of mind like a beggar on the street who's like not asking for money but they're asking for some peace of

mind in this crazy time um and i it's kind of like everything about me all in one song where i do like skits i do like imitations of like npr reporters like talking about something that has of no consequence to trump but um and it's like kind of like Curtis Mayfield, Pink Floyd, through my lens. Sure. And, yeah, it's one of my favorite songs. Yeah, and Peace of Mind is the name of my podcast, if I didn't say that already, and it comes from this song. It's called Brother, Can You Spare Some Peace of Mind?

All right, so we're going to ride out on that one. We're going to ride out on that. We'll be back tomorrow with more podcasts. Bailey Zykes is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. And we will talk to you guys tomorrow.

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