The Daily Zeitgeist - New Old Town Road, IRS BFFs 4.8.19

Episode Date: April 8, 2019

In episode 365, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Zahra Noorbakhsh to discuss the 25th anniversary of Kurt Cobain's death, Game of Thrones branding everywhere, presidential taxes, Joe Biden's weak apology, the Lil Nas X featuring Billy Ray Cyrus Old Town Road remix, Lori Loughlin's daughter hating her, Beyonce walking out on Reebok because of lack of diversity, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Kurt Cobain: What to Read and Watch, 25 Years After the Nirvana Leader’s Death2. WATCH: Game of Thrones Main Title by MTN DEW– Extended Cut3. Trump Asked That Confirmation of I.R.S. Counsel Be a Priority4. Let’s Talk Presidential Taxes5. Biden apologizes for making anyone uncomfortable, says it wasn't his intention6. WATCH: Lil Nas X - Old Town Road (feat. Billy Ray Cyrus) [Remix]7. Olivia Jade Feels Parents Lori Loughlin and Mossimo Giannulli Have ‘Ruined Everything’ for Her Amid College Scandal8. Beyonce walked out of deal with Reebok over pitch team's lack of diversity: report9. WATCH: Best motivational speech EVER! *Never give up!!!* Eric Thomas Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh, Brian don't want no scrubs. Trump is a guy who can't get no love from me. Hanging from the Zeitgang ride with his best friend Miles. Hot taste coming at me courtesy of maggie kirk and i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles

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Give me the mic so I can take it away. Off on a cold brew charge, par voyage. Yeah, from the home of the Dodgers, Zeitgeist Squad. Woo! Woo! God. Love that song, man. Golly, what a track. Shout out to at just

TDZAKs for that one, but also I didn't forget everybody else who's been hitting me with Shimmy Ya AKs over the years. Shout out also to at Tara Non-Firma for You Did Want To, and also at Dobby1G. You are all seen and heard. But, I mean, that one took the cake.

Yeah. It's the one of two songs I know how to play on the piano. I found that key. And I was just hitting that shit over and over again. You just hatched that down from there. So, yeah, not too bad. We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented comedian, writer, actor, and co-host of the Good Muslim, Bad Muslim podcast, Zahra Norbach.

Hello. How are you? Welcome. Oh my God, I'm so excited to be here. Yes? We're so excited to have you. Yeah. This is my first recording after surgery.

Damn. After surgery, yes. Yeah. I noticed, yes, you showed us you have a bit of a little scar. They slit my throat, man. Who's they? The Hope of Medical Professional and not a street gang?

What if it was a street gang that happened to be a thyroid surgeon? Oh, so are we having a thyroid issue? Yeah. So, okay. So I had a rogue nodule

in my thyroid. Damn. That was like giving me like what what I thought was depression and anxiety, but it was really just jitters from a hyperthyroid and fatigue from a hypothyroid, just up and down. Wow. Yeah. And it turned out to be my thyroid the whole time, which was kind of nice to find out, and then really scary because then they were like, actually, it could be a really aggressive

strain of cancer. Fuck. Right. And then I was like, oh, but I had a year of TED Talks helping me, supporting me through the period of time where I thought I had depression and didn't know what was up. Did you just stand in the Superman pose the whole time? I star posed. And I just held that space of uncertainty until they told me

pre-cancerous nodule, no further surgery necessary. Hell yeah. Hey, drop the bomb on that one. Yeah, fuck out of here, kids. Okay,

you want to hear the best part though? Yes. If I do have to get treatment ever in my life, you have to take radioactive iodine,

which means that I would be a nuclear Iranian. Oh, shit. Hear that bomb sound effect again for me one more time. Wow. Hold that one, Mike Pompeo.

Maybe the most earned woman of mass destruction. Sanction plutonium. There you go. Yellow cake for your birthday. All right, Zara, we're going to get to know you even better in a moment. But first, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today. It's a lot.

On Friday, it was 25 years since Kurt Cobain died. And that made me feel old as fuck. 25 years? 25 years. Damn, 25. What? So we're just going to talk about that for like a minute. Then we're going to talk about Game of Thrones and how just like they are treating this like it's Space Jam.

Like there is so many endorsement deals and endorsement products. And we're going to just kind of compare that to other things that haven't done that. I think I haven't heard a Space Jam reference in the same amount of time I haven't heard about Kurt Cobain. I think that's... Yeah, right on. That's what you come here for. Exactly. We're going to talk about Trump's tax returns and whether we're ever going to see them.

Joseph Biden's... What did he do? Apology. Oh, my God. For you being creeped out. He was sorry if you were creeped out. I'm sorry you were weirded out, but I'm not sorry for anything

because I know in my heart what I intended. He's never been sorry. So I'm not wrong. He specifically put that out there. We're going to talk about Herman Cain, who will be running the Fed. Maybe, hopefully not. What the stock market thinks about the next election.

Aunt Becky, Beyonce. We're going gonna touch them all but first we'd like to ask yeah just all the subjects all the no Biden

no Biden no Biden no Biden no Biden Zara what is something from your search history that's revealing

about who you are oh crap okay I just looked up DuckTales DuckTales that one yeah

man what were you thinking about it might solve a mystery or rewrite history I've been yeah I just looked up DuckTales. DuckTales. Woo! That one? Yeah. Man, what were you thinking about it? Might solve a mystery or rewrite history? I've been, yeah. I've been working on my comedy special. It's debuting June 21st. Oh, shit. It's called On Behalf of All Muslims, a comedy special.

Okay. I feel like we need one. Yeah. You don't say. My hero is Scrooge McDuck when I was a kid I just wanted to be him and I like had my mom

like sew me costumes not for real yeah not for Halloween just cause oh shit oh like you were cosplaying through life

as Scrooge McDuck almost I mean okay listen he was an immigrant he had an accent right he did have an accent

he was a billionaire he was Scottish right yeah yeah he was selfish right and I was and he just used his money to go on adventures. And I was like, yes, this is my man. Right, right.

But then for the show, I had to do all this research because it's been a while. Into how he actually made that money. Right, yes. And it's very dark. It is. There are some early Scrooge McDuck comics where he is in Africa, legit in Africa, doing some like real imperialist, crazy, fucked up stuff. Yeah, it was a deep hole.

Like Rhodesia type shit? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my God. Fuck yeah. It's bad, man. Hey, he came around, man. But I mean, what billionaire doesn't have many dark, dark skeletons? Damn, that makes sense.

That's why I say Might Solve a Mystery or just, hey, rewrite it. Rewrite it. I got all this money on the up and up, man. No slavery, no conflict diamonds, no nothing like that. Right. Wait, who made early Scrooge McDuck origin cartoons? They've been around for a while. Disney-verse?

Yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah, and actually early Scrooge McDuck comics are incredibly influential. They were some of the first. Donald Duck comics and Scrooge McDuck, that universe was... They think that the design of those characters influenced manga and a lot of that shit. There's also the shot from Raiders where he's running away from the boulder. Yeah, yeah.

That first appeared in an early Scrooge McDuck comic. No way. Like they really, they were inventing shit out here. Okay, shout out to Scrooge. Why do you know this? I used to run a website where that's all we did was dig into. That's right. I forgot about that.

That might hit you up. All right. Wait wait i'm sorry with the like the subplot or you know africa exploitation shit was that like meant to be a commentary or just more like accepted because of the time and they're like and that's that guy he's rich and you know he you know he's doing he's just i think it was like a wacky wacky adventure to africa oh storyline okay. Not that we're saying he's like the De Beers Diamond Company or something like that.

I don't know. I believe, if my memory serves, it was a bit problematic. Hit us with some deep cut DuckTales shit. Scrooge McDuck, alright. What is something you think is overrated? Overrated. Yeah.

Oh my god, this is really unpopular. Okay. I've never told this to anybody. Uh-oh. This is the space to do that. I don't know, you guys. I don't know. Okay, that's fine.

We'll find out. I think we're both about to find out who each other are. Queer Eye. Oh, the new Queer Eye? See what happened. What? I mean, I haven't watched the new season. What?

No, sorry. Jonathan Van Ness is a god. You said save space. You said save space. No, to be honest, I'm like, okay. I mean, it's like any show. Especially TV. I don't give a fuck if people...

I'm not as militant about TV. I'm star posing. Yeah, you are. And I feel your power and I back down. What do you think about it as overrated? Okay, it's liberal porn. Oh, gotcha. You mean in that sense?

Like, the first episode of the third season, right? Like, they're going into, like, quote unquote back country where they're like, you know, the mindset's supposed to be conservative and, like, they love guns and blah, blah, blah. And then they, like, you know, the mindset's supposed to be conservative and like they love guns and blah, blah, blah. And then they like change her mind and everything. And it just felt like, oh, okay, if I was like a moderate liberal, then I would be like, see, if we do, I'll just meet each other and we change each other's clothes and we change each other's hair. It's like progressive wish fulfillment fantasy show.

Exactly. And I just was like, I don't know, you guys. Yeah. Well, I think for you being an activist, too, you see a lot more nuance than simply having these like. You know what? You know where it comes from? It's from being a feminist, Muslim, Iranian, American, bisexual comedian.

Right, right, right. Dealing with liberal audiences that whenever I'm on stage, they expect that I'm going to articulate for them all of my difference. Right. Transform our relationship. Uh-huh. And then we'll all walk away, you know, empirically better humans. That's why I came.

Exactly. Change my mind. Exactly. Right. And I'm like, I would also like to talk about dicks and farts and burps and shits and tits and clits. Rank those all right now. Number one clit, then farts. And you feel like they're after the claptor?

The like, yeah, you say it, sister. Tell us about Trump. Right. Shit like that. Right. Yeah. Exactly. Oh, right, where the audience

congratulates themselves for laughing at a joke from someone who's different than them and means I'm actually not problematic or have problematic views. I see. I would like narrative agency. One thing I will give, Jonathan Van Ness on Instagram, he's been documenting how he's

like learning how to figure skate. Oh, for real? It's amazing. From someone who looked like, you know, I used to play hockey, so I could tell when somebody looks very uncomfortable on skates. That was him. And he's slowly making progress. It's almost like he's just being like, I've always wanted to be a figure skater.

That's amazing. And he's kind of living his best life. Yeah. And you're not saying the people who are on the show are overrated or anything. You're just saying

that maybe the overall structure and its role that it serves in people's lives is a little bit. Other than that, I love it. Yeah, I haven't

ever watched the new episodes. Although they just went to Capitol Hill and that's where I get it. I can't stop watching. Because they were with AOC and I was like, oh, here we go. They're really being like, if you're on the left, we're all in, baby. But Jonathan Van Ness is working heels in the halls of the Capitol building.

Just got to talk to them. They'll see the errors of their ways. Okay, do we have another question for me? Because I got one for you guys too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What is something you think is underrated? I'm going to say motivational videos. Right.

Oh, especially after talking about what you've been through. Yeah. I watch these motivational videos by, like, Ray Lewis and Eric Thomas and Les Brown. Damn, Ray Lewis, huh? Yeah. And they're kind of amazing. Yeah, I mean, Ray Lewis, huh? Yeah. They're kind of amazing. Yeah, I mean, Ray Lewis has some intensity. The power of positive thinking can get you out of a murder charge.

Yeah. They've gotten me through. Yeah, Ray Lewis. I know. It's underrated. Yeah. Yo, man. I mean, that is the power.

It's gotten me through some shit. M.O.B., mind over body. Okay, it's this montage that opens with the Game of Thrones soundtrack. Oh, shit. And just athletic failure. Just shot for shot of NBA all-stars sobbing. Right. People like marathon runners crying and collapsing.

Yeah. And then Eric Thomas is like, when the messenger of misery comes for you, what will you say to keep you in the game? Damn. And I'm like, all right, let's go. Let's make some coffee. Open my inbox. I'm ready, all right, let's go. Let's make some coffee. Open my inbox. I'm ready. Come on, Ray Lewis.

Let's throw that suit away. Isn't that what he did? Yeah. Suddenly, he went into a limousine with a suit that had all sorts of murder evidence

all over it and that suit vanished. He just came out. What's that video called that you're talking about? Are you ready for this title? That's his power, though. I mean, that's why people are like,

Ray Lewis is intense as shit. Are you ready for this title? Yes. Asterisk. Okay. Best motivational video of all time. Yo. Asterisk.

God bless you, YouTube. God bless YouTube. We're going to have to definitely put that in the footnotes. Best motivational video of all time. And what is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? That if we just can learn about each other, then we'll find out we're all the same. And everything will be better.

Yeah. It's not. That easy? It's also so far from accurate. Right. So far from accurate. Like the more, like the whole point of the states, of the United States is that we were like,

we have irreconcilable differences and then here's like a contract to keep us all together. Right, right. And that's cohabitation. So what do you, how do you see, or do you see that, that sort of, you know, phrase or whatever idea is addressing a problem that isn't solvable in that sense? Or what, how would you rejigger that message? I don't like you.

You don't like me. And we live next door. Right. Right. So stay out of each other's way it's like you we got a hug but you don't got to throw you know firebombs at each other we don't even got a hug yeah i'm saying we don't have to yeah yeah just respect each other's space i'm like do you how about this do you exactly i'll do me and i'll yeah and i'm not gonna worry about you you don't have to worry about me but you know what we have in common a love of infrastructure

and social welfare right there we go having clean drinking water yeah it's like it's like less libertarian a little bit more like we both understand that there is a need for speed limits right right let's meet each other there right the dmv let's give that more funding let's raise those salaries right he's like i don't know about Zara, but I like to wait at the DMV. Exactly. Here's another way to not wait around at the DMV. Build another DMV! Damn. DMVs for

every city. Two, three, four. There are no lines. You know what I'm saying? I like this platform. Post offices, not Amazon. How about that? See? That's what I'm saying. Sexy. Running on a platform of more post offices, more DMVs. Post office on every corner.

This is what I'm going to say. I'm going to say, whenever someone is like, we're just like you. You're just like me. We're all the same. I'm going to be like, cool. Infrastructure. Let's bring in some infrastructure. It's like, yeah, we're just like each other in the same basic things. We have the same desires for security and companionship, those kinds of things.

But other than that. Yeah, you know what? Actually, I'm having a revelatory moment right now. Okay, yeah. After a year of motivational speeches to get me through what was just a thyroid disaster, I'm realizing that it is less about willpower and more about the structures that keep it together. Yeah. Damn.

Yeah. Mind blown. We got to get you on a speaking tour now. I'm ready. Damn, yeah. Put blown. We gotta get you on like a speaking tour now. I'm ready. Damn, yeah. Put your black turtleneck on. Bring me. Bring me. Give me it. Black turtleneck. Black turtleneck with the earpiece. Oh my god. Fake glasses.

I'll Holmes it all the way. Let me hear that deep Holmes voice. So what I think is That's pretty good. I'm here. I'm here. I think we can all get behind DMV. Uh huh. Maybe build a couple more. is That's pretty good. I'm here. I'm here. I think I'll get behind DMV. Uh-huh. Maybe build a couple more. Yeah. She's good. Just one drop of blood for DMVs.

I like that she made her little blood factory thing look like a little tiny factory. That was a good touch. Except like in that HBO documentary when you saw how much of a disaster it was inside with blood flying everywhere. Oh my God, that was amazing. And then people were like, we're dealing with like pathogens and stuff and blood's flying around.

My favorite part was how all these old white guys were like, I don't understand how she got by us. She was so charismatic. I think it's because she didn't blink. And she like just sort of was really good at playing this part that people took the visual information and went, this person is smart. And she was attractive. Yeah, good for her. I mean, look, I forget.

There were so many people on Twitter who were tweeting shit like, no woman of color could get away with their hair looking a mess like that. No, absolutely not. No, honey. Okay, listen. Do you know the meanings I've had when I tried to pull any amount of rank? Right. Zara, you're too tall and you're too loud.

Right. And nobody likes you. How tall are you? I'm 5'9", but everyone thinks that I'm like 6'10", because of my big loud mouth. Because of your energy. And your energy. And you watch those motivational videos.

It's Ray Lewis. You might as well be Ray Lewis coming in the book. Got too much Ray Lewis. Did you say you had a question for us? I did. All right, we'll get to it i do i remember i remember it i do okay okay i've been thinking a lot about gender binary i've come to a conclusion a placeholder conclusion that i'm testing right now

i believe that there is a binary fart positive fart shame oh shit are you fart shame or fart fart posse baby really yeah of course you are yeah you're like a fart high five no uh like my it's totally context-based isn't it no see you're my man okay this is what i'm saying is like i don't know the other side of it maybe there isn't a binary is it fluid yeah I think it's fluid. Because like... This conversation is wild. Because now we're like really thinking about it. I'm like, yeah, because don't be farting.

Don't just fart up in anywhere. Yeah. Pick your shots. Because we do. I guess there is some... Because it's... My mom is fart positive. She will always high five a fart.

Really? That's like my mom too. Drives me crazy. My mom is fart positive. She will always high five a fart. Really? That's like my mom too. Drives me crazy. My mom, yo, it's so funny. I don't know if she's listening. Tell me, tell me. She likes a good fart, okay? On both sides of my family, we fart from my maternal grandparents to my paternal grandparents. Farts are like the language.

And they're from Japan. A powerful fart coming from a petite person is very funny based on my little Japanese mom who's like 5'1 and even my grandfather from Chicago like the farts are the same

and the love for farts is the same and she used to yell at me my mom she loves the farts so much that if she feels one even if she's yelling at me we'll just rip one shut up

she's like baka omae nani ima nani ittanda yo like she's like in Japanese being like what the fuck did you just say to me type shit and then be like and like and then we just start laughing and i keep telling the kid i was like yo you just lost all your steam right there because you decided to just fart it up and now we're all laughing so she's like no and then she laughs she laughs. No, she laughs too.

Because then I'm like, well, then how am I supposed to think you're angry now? Right, right. That's amazing. I think that's her way of getting away from being mean mom or something. But she doesn't fart all the time, but she likes it. What about you? With my mom? I mean, my family was very fart positive.

Okay. Yeah. It wasn't celebrating. No high fives, but just also no attempt to shield each other from air farts. What about for the women in the family specifically? I think they just let it go. They just let it go? Yeah. Because it wasn't a thing where like, no, Jack, we don't poop.

Right. Because I meet people like that. I'm like, that's just weird to say out loud. Door open. Sometimes, yeah. I mean, that's pretty standard for a family, right? Oh, yeah. We didn't have a door. Right. Because I meet people like that, I'm like, that's just weird to say out loud. Door open. I mean, that's pretty standard for a family, right? We didn't have a door. We had no door and we had a camera that was live streamed.

Piss party? My mom was fart positive, high five, even if it was a silent but deadly. Oh, wow. Yeah. She would like high five you. You wouldn't know why you were getting a high five. But like everyone else. And then you would just be like.

She's like, buckle up, baby girl. She'd be like, oh, that's everything inside of you is wrong. Good job. Give me a high five. Give me a high five. And it made me so mad because I was like all fart shame. Yeah. Oh, you are not fart posi?

Yeah. I take after my dad my dad was like don't talk about it I don't want to talk about it right right right I have friends like that too who don't even want to talk about it

what fart or people who are married and they're like you don't he's like nah I don't like I don't like like we don't like to hear each other fart

I'm like y'all are married the gas light the fart the gas light the gas yeah what fart what are you talking about nothing happened oh you smell something

that's weird you also like once you have Oh, you smell something? That's weird. You also like, once you have a kid, you get very like, it's hilarious when your kid starts farting and like realizes he's farting and like. And is into it. Oh, that's adorable. Not like when it's a dog trying to fight his own ass when they fart. Those videos are adorable. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. But poop loses a lot of its shame once you have a kid. Great. All right. We're going to take have a kid. Great. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist

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And we're back. And it's been 25 years. It's been. It's been. 25 years since Kurt Cobain died is not how the rest of that song goes. Yeah. So I was just trying to think of like two kids today. What is Kurt Cobain's death and i was realizing it's like at the very

least like how like hendrix seemed to me when i was a kid like that it's like that long ago or like janice joplin or like the doors or even like jfk 20 25 years after jfk's death was 1988 right i was like not. I was four. Yeah. And not giving a fuck. Right. And even like, yeah, I guess 20.

Yeah. To me, it's just thinking of like, you know, me being a 10 year old when that happened or what was it? Ninety. Ninety four. Right. And then thinking of like someone's like little sibling who was just born that day. Like that's a baby.

Right. And now thinking who I haven't seen in years ago. Yo, that person's 25 now. Oh, yeah. like, that's a baby. Right. And now thinking, who I haven't seen in years, I go, yo, that person's 25 now. Oh, yeah. Wait, that's Kurt Cobain's death distance, 25 years. I don't know. All of these things to say that we always have reminders that we are dying.

And life is transient. Oh, my God. Do you guys still wonder about- Like a fart in the wind? What happened? Yeah. I don't know. Aren't there like documentaries?

I haven't seen like much of the documentaries. Because there's so many that I'm like, I don't know. Did what everyone said, a lot of people say Courtney Love did it. Yeah. I don't believe that. Yeah. What do you say? What sayest thou, Jack?

Why do you need his opinion? I just gave mine categorically. You think she did it? No, I don't. Yeah, I don't either. I think. Oh, because you just went, yep. The way I said, people think she did it. The don't yeah i don't either i think oh because you just went yep the way i said people think she did it the way you said yes i thought you said yeah no one of those people that's like almost the default conclusion online is like oh yeah she

murdered him like people just want to believe that shit because it's kind of a more interesting reality but yeah i mean they they had a very like toxic, volatile relationship. And but but I don't think she like ordered a hit. Yeah. That's why I'm just like I'm just not even interested in like trying to figure that out. I'm like, if it was a murder, I'd hope the police are figuring that out. Yeah. If just, you know, just let his terrible guitar playing live on in eternity.

Dude, there is like people give me heat for that. I'm telling you, technically, he was not a good guitar player. Am I wrong? Am I wrong? Yeah. I just looked at

Super Producer Nick's stuff. He just goes, I don't give a shit, dude. But that was his steez. You know what I mean? He was Kurt. You know, that was his vibe. So, you know,

hopefully you're in the... I still ride for the unplugged performance. Where did Batman go when they die? Don't go to heaven where the unplugged. Where did Batman go when they died? Don't go to heaven, we're in the angel's crime. Oh, that takes me back. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

To the 4th of July. That shit's great. Anyway, all right. Maniland Junior High. Let's talk about Game of Thrones. Yes. It's coming. It's coming.

Are you a fan? I am. Okay, cool. I hate that I'm a fan, but I am. I think like most people. I'm a self-loathing fan. I'm just, I'm more of the person who, who as i say all the time i just need the sweet release of this ending so i can move on with my life and just know how it ends and figure out where they were taking this the

whole time but so you didn't read the leaked no no no and i don't i don't have enough i didn't read the books i just took it as a show that was on that i would watch i don't engage much even on like fan boards where people like go to town trying to figure out what's going on. This reminds me of when people talk about smoking. What do you mean? I'm not really a smoker. I just smoke with friends. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Right, right. We've all seen the PSA. Right. You're a smoker. Social smoking is still smoking. Social watching is still watching. So Game of Thrones, though, is heading into this last season just caking the fuck up. They are like, there's Oreos,

as we talked about on past episode. Now there's like a secret Game of Thrones Shake Shack menu. Damn. And it's just, it's a weird look for a like critically acclaimed. Yeah, they're just going full bro. Murder, fuck, fest type, like, you know, this is like hard R. Not kid- like hard friendly shit yeah it's not kid friendly

shit that's that's right right they're like yeah don't you want oreos for your kids to eat on that show about the the little boy who caught the brother and sister having sex and was pushed out a window and became a cripple yeah i was saying i was i mean disabled right i was saying earlier though like think about if like heading into the last season of Sopranos, they had Polly Walnuts Oreos and Christopher Oreos and Walter White Blue Raspberry Blow Pops heading into the last season of Breaking Bad. It's just very, they're treating it like it's an action franchise or something like that. Or a Disney movie. Yeah. You know what I mean? Usually you see these kind of product integration things for brands that are broad enough

or intellectual property that's broad enough that it won't put people off. But I guess that's probably a testament just to the phenomenon that is the show where everyone is trying to hop in on this. Because even the Shake Shack thing is absurd. The write-up they did is so just overly elaborate. What is it?

So first of all, it's only available at the, I think, Madison Square Park location in New York. So look, New York's hiking. There you go. Go get it. But you have to – they said you order in Valerian. Okay. So the Dracarys Burger, Dracaro Parcleopos, features a double Monterey Jack cheeseburger sourced from the finest head of cattle the Seven Kingdoms has to offer.

Griddled by the fires of Drogon and Rhaegal, the burger is then topped with a fiery shack sauce created from herbs and spices sourced from the conquered cities of Yunhai, Meereen, and Astapor. Conquered cities? I'm like, yo, you want a slave sauce? Yeah, is there like, why are they talking about conquered cities? And also like the food in that universe is like real like dirty and like.

Yeah, you just eat like a leg of a horse and some wine. Thinking about food in the Game of Thrones universe makes me think of two things. One is Dorne, because they were all about their food and shit. And the other is that like father and son who starved to death. Oh, right.

You know, like that's... Who didn't have enough, yeah. Yeah. Other than that, it's just mead and shit. This is like the opposite of like... Okay, so I have this joke about how liberal white people always like to think about how food trucks solve racism. Right, if we just eat each other's food, then we can get along.

This is like the exact polar opposite. This is like, eat each other's... then we can get along this is like the exact polar opposite this is like eat each other's eat food conquer conquest yes murder rape pillage get food from the vanquished oh my god uh yeah and then like just even the the shake it's just a shake but it's like custard is frozen with packed snow harvest with packed snow harvested beyond the wall and hand churned by members of the Night's Watch. It's like, no, bro. It's someone being underpaid. Hand churned by members of the Night's Watch.

By a starving student who has their job trying to make ends meet, not hand churned by the Night's Watch. But hey. Hey, he's a man of the Night's Watch. Hey, right. And then his watch. What happens to the women who are churning it too? But then you look at everything else.

It seems like it goes, like this started to seem like parody to me. They have Adidas Ultra Boost sneakers, which is just like they're trying to jump on the hype beast like thing. And then Mountain Dew, which- Oh, play the, okay, we have a clip. This is what's really absurd. It was like a celebrity lane.

There's Joel Embiid, there's Dale Earnhardt Jr., motherfucking Migos, and they're all singing the Game of Thrones song, but it's just so cringy. It's just like a black backdrop, and people are just like, do-do-do-do-do. Here, listen to this clip.

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Dude. Takeoff looks so high in this shit, too. And they're wearing the most ornate shit Like just checked out Getting that check I mean look credit to Migos Get the fucking Just secure the bag and get the fuck out

And then there's even Johnny Walker Oh my god Johnny Walker like that seems I guess At least for adults You know what I mean While you guys do the rest of the show Just keep talking I'm just gonna be here in the background

Mountain Mountain Mountain While you guys do the rest of the show, just keep talking. I'm just going to be here in the background. Do, do, do, do, do. Mountain. Mountain do. Mountain do. All right. Well, you know. I mean, hey. Do what you got to do.

They got me, you know. I'm addicted. So let's talk tax returns. Coming up on that time of year. Yeah, well, yeah, there's that. But then also, you know, the mirage in the desert that is, will we ever see those tax returns of the president? No. And, you know, like that was a thing that I think lightened people's spirits on the left when the Democrats took the House in the midterms.

You're like, OK, well, maybe we can start getting these tax returns from the IRS. But it's April now and everybody's like, what the fuck is going on? Because I think people are not satisfied with the William Barr's Mueller report. So now they're talking tax returns. But the reason after reading a lot of articles about this, there's just like a legal arms race happening between the House Democrats and the White House. So on one hand, you have the Democrats where essentially Nancy Pelosi is like bringing in a lot of like legal counsel to be like the House, you know, legal counsel. And these are people who have like proven track records on trying to like prove cases using like a legislative record. And that's essentially what they're going to do because they realize it is going to be a massive legal battle because, you know, Trump obviously doesn't want to share those things. And he's going to, you know, figure out ways to obstruct people's ability or impede people's

ability to see the tax returns. So they realize, OK, this is a slow game here. We're going to have to, like, enter things into the record. And so we can really when we have to go to court, we have an actual legal case that says I don't care what weird argument they're using. This is the facts, Jack, And give us the damn tax returns. So on the Trump side is mounting up another way because they're basically just packing the IRS with just his cronies. So, for example, there was on The New York Times was reporting that he was begging Mitch McConnell to fast track the confirmation of this of Trump's pick to be the IRS IRS's head legal counsel, this man named Michael Desmond.

And that's weird. I wonder what connection they have. Well, Michael Desmond was a one-time Trump tax lawyer. Oh, my God. And he was also a colleague of William Nelson and Sherry Dillon, who are Trump's long-time tax lawyers. And those are the people who, after he won the election, he's like, I'm putting my business in a blind trust. And it just had that like vague stack of papers. Right.

Oh, right. Those are the people behind that shit. So their friend is now being the pick to be confirmed as the IRS's chief lawyer because he's going to be the person to argue against turning over the tax returns. And he was basically asking Mitch McConnell to prioritize this even over William Barr's confirmation

to be the head of DOJ, to be AG. So he gets, he's like, oh yeah, that'll be spicy. What do we think we're going to see in the tax returns? Just like his exposure to maybe where all that cash was coming from? Yeah, or if there's any business dealings that do involve any, you know, Russian entities, other properties he may own that we didn't know he owned. You know, there's just a lot.

We're taking his word on everything. Okay, I have like a... And also the fraud he's probably committing. I have a question. Could we like, can you explain this to me in relation to Bill Clinton and his cum stain? Right, yeah. So it all goes back to one day in the 90s.

Like, is this really that hard? I mean, we impeached a man over a cum stain on a Gap dress. I feel like we could do a tax return. But not before turning that investigation into a 400-page bestseller. Right. Number one New York Times bestseller, like, the day after it was turned in. I mean, is that what we need? Let's fast-track this shit. Like, let's just do this. Let's get moving. Reverse-engineer it. Yeah, well, and, the day after it was turned in. I mean, is that what we need? Let's fast track this shit.

Like, let's just do this. Let's get moving. Reverse engineer it. Yeah, well, and even then, because it's not just this lawyer. The commissioner of the IRS is also a Trump crony. And, like, before he got his gig, wrote a column at Forbes being like, Trump shouldn't release his taxes. Of course.

Cut to you being the commissioner of the IRS. So, you know, you have people who are like finding every weird whack legal argument to just stall it, to take it to court because the IRS really doesn't have a good legal argument against it aside from when they're going to have to concoct and then argue in court, which is why Democrats are trying to get ahead of it and be like, okay, well, let's try and it's just, you know what? This is a classic. Like we are now in season six of Frasier and season seven of Friends. What's that? What happened?

Will Ross and Rachel get together? Will Daphne and Niles finally get together? Will Daphne find out? Will Trump and his tax returns ever be exposed? It's like it's another romantic love plot subplot. And hopefully Marcel the monkey from Outbreak will also make a candy out of it. He did.

I feel like an episode of Friends. I was very confused as a kid. Yes. And I know there's another, you know, track that people are saying, you know, we could go this direction too, which is, you know, Trump has always said,

well, I can't release the tax returns. I'm under audit. I'm under audit. So, and like the lawyers who did this big, cool stack of papers show at the beginning of 2017, they were also like, it's been like in a perpetual state of audit for the last 10 years or something. So they're saying like, why don't we just pull up to the IRS and say, is it under audit? And then maybe just remove that defense first and maybe get somebody on wax at the IRS to determine that.

There's like a lot of ways to make this move forward. Yeah. And I think I'm sure they're all thinking of it, so it's just like the most boring fucking chess game of all time. Yeah, I mean welcome to a government infrastructure that looks like Iran's. Yeah, and

last time you were here, a lot of destabilization. That's what I'm saying. Ahmadinejad got a second term. A lot of people didn't remember voting for him him but that happened so like I don't know I'm on the will he get re-elected

probably because I know how the storyline goes I think I've seen this pattern before although stock market was polled the people who run the stock market investors were polled and are saying that they are gambling, 70% of them are gambling

that he is going to be reelected. What do you mean that he's gambling? They're putting money down in Vegas? They're putting money down, yeah. Wait, really? No, not on Vegas. Just in terms of how they structure their investments. But there is, like what you just said,

the way that they structure their investments. This should be illegal right. But there is, like what you just said, the way that they structure their investments. Like this should be illegal. You should not be allowed to short sell on your country. Right. Which is essentially what anybody who's making money off of the presidency is doing. Right. And Joe Biden, Joseph Biden, real briefly said, sorry that you felt that way. Right.

I'm not sorry for anything ever. Yeah. He had like a public speaking thing and he kind of made a joke about it up there. And then afterwards, he, for the first time, faced journalists being like, hi, we have a question about these people saying you are touchy in the wrong fucking way. Oh, have you not heard about this? I've been under a rock. Okay, good. I can, let me get you up to speed.

Tell me. So a lot of people in the last week or about three or four people have come out to talk about their experiences with Joe Biden. Just, you know, he's just a touchy dude. He's like, he was like, you know, hugging women from the back

and like whispering in their ear. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And people are like, it's just weird. You know, like, and a lot of them were like, just to be clear, I'm not saying he assaulted me in any way, but I was made uncomfortable by his invasion of my personal space. So he's been dealing with this, like, quote unquote scandal. But basically people asking, hi, Joe, you know, there's many photos of you sort of looking

like you don't give a fuck about people's personal space. Do you care to comment on that? And first he was just like, you know, I realize social norms are changing and i will do better was the first thing but people were like why don't you say you're sorry i hate apologies can you can you can you articulate that rather than just sort of defending yourself i mean like hey time's changing man time the times are wrong not me and then so he had this moment afterwards because a lot of people like his critics and people who are even on the Democratic strategy side are saying, like, he should just, like, be like, yeah, look, I'm sorry. I'm invading people's space.

I won't do it anymore. But he's been doing everything except that. So this is him answering a question about that. Do you think you owe these women a direct apology who have come forward so far? Well, look, the fact of the matter is I made it clear that if I made anyone feel comfortable, I feel badly about that. That was never my intention, ever, ever, ever. But there's someone who wanted to hear directly, I am sorry.

Are you sorry for the way that you made this woman feel? I'm sorry I didn't understand more. I'm not sorry for any of my intentions. I'm not sorry for anything that I have ever done. I've never been disrespectful intentionally to a man or a woman. You know, that's not the reputation I had since I was in high school, for God's sake. So that's not the reputation I've had

since I was in high school. Anyways, also at a speech on Friday, I believe, he hugged the guy, Lonnie Stevenson, who was introducing him. And then his opening line or one of his early in the speech, he said, I just want you to know I had permission to hug Lonnie. And the line drew applause and laughter from the crowd. Moving on. Right. Later, during another point during his speech, when there were children on stage, he put his arm around a young boy and said,

By the way, he gave me permission to touch him. Oh, boy. So it's like he's overdoing it to make a point that people are too demanding. You know what? You know what? You know what? I'm going to inhabit the throne and make a declarative statement as patriarch in this moment. I'm done with apologies.

Okay. I'm done with apologies. I wish the left, the progressive, the intersectional body, on behalf of the intersectional body, let's stop asking for apologies. It's such a red herring. And it skews the conversation. And all of a sudden, the conversation becomes about these minor missteps and intent

instead of establishing new norms. Right. And it sucks to hear this because I feel like, and given I've been under a rock, it sucks to hear all this play out because I feel like, I hear him saying,

there are new norms. And I want us to jump I hear him saying, you know, there are new norms. And I want us to like jump on that and be like, yes, there are. Here's how it goes. And here's what we do now. Right. Just being so focused on an apology. Exactly. And instead, because everyone's giving pity face and being like, but are you going to say sorry, though?

Yeah, that one journalist. That of course sets him up like as a PR person. I'm like, yes yes you are setting up a messaging route that is going to be like so then now he's always going to check in to make sure it's okay and does he need to make an apology and is that what we're about no we're about action it's supposed to move this way but are we typified and stereotyped as snowflakes that care all about feelings right and and being patronizing which i have like an acute ear for as a woman and stereotyped as snowflakes that care all about feelings. Right.

And being patronizing, which I have an acute ear for as a woman, that's the direction it's taking. It's sort of like we're eating the crap bait that they're handing us. That's a good point. That's a really good point. The follow-up there would have been like, okay, describe what those new norms are. Exactly. And what are you going to do?

What can other men like you who might not have been like, okay, describe what those new norms are. Exactly. What are you going to do? What can other men like you who might not have been familiar with them, what can you do? What are some guidelines that you can follow? Let's define this, but instead it becomes... Because the argument's like, well, I've been doing this for years. Right. I think the argument I'm making is what you're saying about

how it's less about him and more about like, what's our goal here? Right. In terms of movement. If we're making this a moment for people to be focused on. What are we focusing on? Yeah.

Well, and he did say that in his video thing about saying like, and I realized that I'm, that's not cool. And I'll be very careful to not be considerate of people's personal space going forward or whatever. So, I mean, he articulated that, but I think it's when he gets defensive about it, then you almost feel like, but did you, are you really like embracing like what you're saying in that sense? I mean, I imagine he has to be careful to sound like, I don't want to turn into an

apologist, but like, I wonder how much he has to be cautious as a public figure, as a person on committees who also has to be aware of what he opens himself up to in terms of a legal battle. Right. And, like, you know, we can't assume that there are all good people. You know, like, people will, like, that's tricky. That's careful space that has to be, I don't know, does that make sense? Wait, what do you mean? What did you mean by in terms of, like, legality?

Wait, what do you mean? What did you mean by in terms of like legality? There's a language that if he opens himself up to, then isn't that then a slippery slope? Because he's articulated some kind of apology that could be construed as an admission of guilt. Exactly. And then people who are not cool could jump in on that and then create a real problem. Right. Well, I think, again, no one has actually ever accused him of anything criminal oh i see so that's where it's like

yeah and i think most people saw like even what he was doing is like you're just doing that shit where you don't get that like motherfuckers don't want it to be fucking you know touch rub noses and shit yeah and do stuff like that and like and and that's all like not a single person said it was a salter anyway. They're just like, yeah, he's got a problem with personal space. There was a journalist at the Washington Post like, yeah, he fucking grabbed me by the shoulders and like put his face up against mine. He's like, I didn't like it.

Yeah. I kind of dig that. I dig that conversation. I dig the conversation that's like, hey, Biden, you're a close talker. It's really obnoxious. Right. And that's what it's turning into. And I think, but then it's starting to play out of sort of like, well, what's wrong with

close talking? Right. Everything. Yeah. And it's like, that's, that's why. That stuff is so hard to articulate to men without like it getting super awkward. Right. And I think for him, if he apologizes in his mind or something, he's admitting to doing

something far worse. Probably the thing that I was worried about. Right. Right. But. I mean, I don't know. I don't care. Can you give an example?

Like when you say that sort of thing is so hard to articulate to men, like what do you mean by that? Well, okay. So for example, for example, there was a guy that I used to interview with and like his favorite thing was to like greet me, take my hand, kiss me on both cheeks

and put his arm around my shoulder and pull me in and i hated it right but like i he was clearly making an attempt to like you know work with whatever insecurity that he has around like social like being social with a woman and come over here and these things were making him feel powerful somehow yeah so that he was like appear with me yeah and like but i didn't like any of it but the easier thing to do is to just like smile and be like yeah okay and we'll sit down you know it's much harder to be like don't you don't kiss me on the cheek man because then like you have a whole big conversation that's like well what do you mean i didn't mean anything by it you know and And it immediately escalates.

Yeah, rather than, yeah. So then at least when you have a Biden conversation like this, you can de-escalate it somehow and be like, look, it's just one of those kinds of moments where it's like you're being a close talker right now. I don't love it so much. It's like, you know, I don't like that a lot. I don't like that a whole lot.

And it's so difficult to articulate because it's like you know i don't like that a lot i don't like that a whole lot like and it's like it's so difficult to articulate because it's you know amy schumer made that joke about grape right like there's that gray area oh that there's like different micro aggressive versions of sexual assault just as there are you know like and how do you have those conversations without it escalating into like super awkwardness right because and then take care of the women who are actually articulating them because the whole reason why we put up with them is to not have those conversations so we can remain a peer right shit yeah well i think yeah i think because again even like joe like the defensiveness is like I think I'm being accused of something like way worse than what it is when it's not just sort of being seen as just a practical matter of personal space that like people are sort of, I don't know. It seems the way the response has been from even the people who defend him, they act like he's being accused of something much greater than what it is.

Right. And even then there's no nuance in their mind mind about what a discussion of personal space is. Yeah. Is it a violation of personal space or is it some just terrible transgression? Right. And I think people aren't able to sort of parse through that, or at least his defenders aren't, because they really are going to bat for him like he's been accused of being a serial molester or something like that.

How do you guys navigate that kind of space? I mean, as I move more in my professional life, I read whatever the person's giving me. So if someone comes up to me that I'm meeting for the first time, if they open their arms like they're a hugger or something, then fine. You dive onto the ground. Then I'll do that. Oh, no, no.

I start coughing. That's me. Or but usually I just offer a hand like a handshake because I just keep it like that. And I'm not I'm also personally like I'm just I don't want to make other people feel uncomfortable. And I also don't have like a desire to just be hugging people all the time either. So I'm fine. I'm just like, Hey, good. But I'm also very open to, you know, hearing anything about like, you know, my own privilege

as a man or whatever, understanding like, Oh yeah. I also know being a man, you don't hear shit like that a lot of time for the precise reason you're talking about it because people would rather not have that discussion. But I try and be as open as possible because I don't want to be the type of dude who someone can bring that up to and I'm like, well, what the fuck are you talking about? You know what I mean? There's no need for me to be defensive

because at a base level, I'm like, yo, there's always shit to learn. There's always shit I'm not perceiving. There's always shit I haven't learned. I'm here to learn. And I don't know what to do with my hands when I'm not interacting with people. So I'm not going to fuck with trying to do shit with my hands when i do they're like okay a lot of sweat uh sir

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Yeah, you. Moving on. I came in this. Yeah, the song is fucking, of story. Yeah, you. Moving on. When I came in this- Yeah, this song is fucking, ah. I know. It's under my skin, man. Now that you've had a- But like, in a good way.

A little time to sit with it. Yeah. You got a- And even the remix works for me. Well, the remix is really, hearing Billy Ray Cyrus, his haunting old voice, it, for a second, sounds like,

oh, let me just give y'all, let's just give a little taste of this one. Yeah, I'm gonna take my horse to the old town road. I'm gonna ride till I can't no more. Yeah. I'm gonna take my horse to the old town road. Where'd you get that cowboy half? That's right. Ride till I can't no more.

I got the horses in the back man when that drops okay so zar i don't know if you're in your uh under rockness that you were you may not have heard about lil nas x who's a rapper who whose original song was him singing that part uh and it was like a country trap song that blew up it got on the country billboard charts and then billboard pulled it because it was quote-unquote not country enough and everyone was like what the fuck are y'all trying to say i mean we know what you're trying to say but like what the fuck and it's a lot of people came out to defend it and then billy ray cyrus was like you know what man let's do a remix yeah and then have billboard tell us that this shit ain't country now and that was like the remix and like yeah there's something there's an elevation there i think we're hearing it's just so basic but it like

billy ray cyrus is a genius of basicness it just like he's the perfect person to match with just the this stripped down to its bare roots uh silly. It's going to be funny. I hope it's just a torch song that people are just going to be. If you're leaving a concert and someone just starts singing it, everyone just hops in. Yeah. Hey, Jude. Yeah.

Exactly. I'm going to take my heart to the old times. Yeah. Yeah, man. Start crying and shit. Bus full of people. Hell yeah, man. Anyway, so check out the remix.

Babies are going to be conceived to that song it's going to be wedding people's wedding songs 25 years from now you're going to be interviewing a prospective new employee who'd be like what's your name son right little nas x oh okay hey just listen to know it i'm pregnant yeah but yeah it's a convergence of obviously trap and country, but then you've got the Yeehaw agenda and black fashion. I guess Lil Nas X was just, before this, had a meme account that was very popular and then got banned. It's just very, I don't know.

It's got a lot of shit. Kid Red the Zeitgeist. You know what I mean? This dude has got to respect what he's doing. Let's talk about Aunt Becky. Real quickly. Okay, so Aunt Becky did the... Aunt Becky, which, by the way, I was listening to Last Culture East. I was listening to Last Culture East, and someone said he had never watched Full House,

and he thought Aunt Becky was just a mean name we were calling this white lady like just calling her Aunt Becky anyway so the daughter of Aunt Becky and Massimo the most 90's shit ever Olivia Jade who was caught up in this mess

because she went to USC because they said she was doing crew anyway she was kicked out she was an Instagram influencer, like beauty influencer, and she lost her Sephora deal and all these other things for committing fraud or her parents. And now Us Magazine is reporting that Olivia just blames her fucking parents for it, and she's so messed up. It says, quote,

Olivia was passionate about her career. Now everything she built has imploded before her eyes. She feels they ruined everything. She's not talking to her parents right now, and she feels she is the victim. Olivia blames her mom and dad for this scandal and for the downfall of her career. Right. You know what? Luckily, you are in a class of human beings where you don't need a college degree to survive.

Right. So, you know, maybe we can figure something else out for you to do. Yeah, don't tear your family down. Don't tear... But, I mean, who's to know? I have a feeling she knew because based on

all these reports about this investigation, most of the kids did know. But I do feel like just based on her social media presence, every step of this was extremely reluctant.

And, like, the documents where you have... I think it was Aunt And like the documents where you have, I think it was Aunt Becky like emailing USC being like, we're just having trouble like getting the application form done. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's just like she was not about that academic life.

Where is she in the sibling lineup? Why? What's your theory on that? The oldest kid, I'm an oldest kid. We are like, give me the handout. Let's go. Let's do this. What do you got?

Ah. And then the ones that come after you are like, you know, I can do this myself. I don't care about, I'm the second kid. But it doesn't matter. I can fight like a first kid. I don't need help. I don't need handouts. Because she's saying like, you know. Because she's only 19. Why why did you give me handouts i could have done it on my own right

type thing but i think hers is like if you guys didn't fucking just break the rules i could still have my influencer deals is really what it was what how i translate that quote is like i don't have a sephora deal mom cousin yeah and yeah! And then I hear a door slam. You know what? Learn from Kylie. Yeah. Self-made. Self-made.

Self-made and self-paid. And also, very quickly, Beyonce, she signed with Adidas. I'm sure everybody heard. But there was just an anecdote. According to Nick DiPaola, who is like a shoe guy now working for ESPN, he had the tea because Beyonce was being courted by I think Under Armour, everybody, even Jordan. And she ultimately landed it with Adidas. Okay, good for y'all. But she really had a problem with Reebok. Okay, so quote, she had a meeting at Reebok and

they had a whole presentation of everything, potential products, how this could all look. And she kind of took a step back and said, is this the team that will be working on my product? Somebody said, yes. And she said, nobody in this room and said, is this the team that will be working on my product? Somebody said, yes. And she said, nobody in this room reflects my background, my skin color, and where I'm from and what I want to do. So she took a step back and left it there and did not come to terms. Wow.

Yo, use your motherfucking power, B. B, my B. Yep. Zara, it's been a pleasure having you. Wow, yeah. Yeah. It's been really lovely being here. Just letting it breathe.

It's a transformative episode. Where can people find you? ZaraComedian.com. Z-A-H-R-A Comedian.com. Not the clothing store. Yeah, not. That's Z-A-R-A. With the H.

Not fast fashion. And minus the slave labor. Mm-hmm. Child slave labor. Your comedy doesn't utilize any slave labor. You can say that? No children's labor. Child slave labor. Your comedy doesn't utilize any slave labor. You can say that? No children's labor? 100%.

Am I apologizing? That's a weird framing. Can you actually promise us your comedy uses no child slave labor? Wait a minute. Oh, no. Actually, you know what? I've been doing comedy since I was protecting my mom from hate crimes as a kid. Damn.

What? So bring it to me. Bang, bang. Yeah, you know what? I've been doing comedy since I was protecting my mom from hate crimes as a kid. Damn. What? So bring it to me. Bang, bang. Yeah, let them know. And that's my dog, Wookie. That's your dog just being like, yeah, what? I'm in, Zara. I'm out.

Miles, where can people find you? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Ray. And also, yo, Zeitgang, if you're playing The Division 2, I just started a clan. Just search Zeitgang. We are here. I'm only like level 15, so you're playing The Division 2, I just started a clan. Just search Zeitgang. We are here. I'm only like level 15, so you're going to have to carry me. And a tweet that I like is from Yedoya Travis, who's a comedian in New York. And having to do...

No, this is good. This is all part of the energy of the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And having to do with Kurt Cobain's death, he tweeted, Damn, Kurt Cobain never saw Lion King. Oh, shit saw Lion King. Oh, shit. Lion King. Lion King came out

in June of 94. Yeah. Fuck me up, man. Tweet I've been enjoying. Chris Black tweeted, Lena Dunham got the word sick tattooed on the back of her neck

like she is a wakeboarder from Arizona. And then Joseph K. Bitten Tongue tweeted, How many different Joker movies are they making? tattooed on the back of her neck like she is a wakeboarder from arizona and then joseph k bitten tongue tweeted how many different joker movies are they making uh because it's real edge lord shit uh and then billboard tweeted stream at lil nas x and at billy ray cyrus new remix of old town road on billboard and marselsky tweeted, when the girl who bullied you in high school comments, congrats! And three hearts.

You can follow me on Twitter, Jack underscore O'Brien. You can follow us on Twitter, at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist. On Instagram, we have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we write out on.

I think they're going to let you know the song. And that's the Old Town Road remix. Yeah. Featuring Miley Ray Cyrus' dad. Music legend, Miley Ray Cyrus' dad. All right. We are going to write out on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast.

And we will talk to you guys then. Bye. Hat down, cross town, living like a rock star. Spend a lot of money on my brand new guitar. Baby's got a habit, diamond rings and Fendi sports bra. Riding down Rodeo in my Maserati sports car. Got no stress, I've been through all that. I'm like a Marlboro man so I keep going back.

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