The Daily Zeitgeist - NFTease, GOP Waiting To Turn The Tables 1.25.22

Episode Date: January 25, 2022

In episode 1070, Jack and Miles are joined by activist and host of There Are No Girls On The Internet Bridget Todd to discuss NFTs and Crypto Are Collapsing / Were Never Really Shit To Begin With?, Ne...wt Gingrich is threatening jail time now? and more! NFTs and Crypto Are Collapsing / Were Never Really Shit To Begin With? Newt Gingrich is threatening jail time now? Watch: Line Goes Up – The Problem With NFTsListen: Sexual Healing by Marvin Gaye [Studio Rio Version]Follow: @BridgetMarie Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just
Starting point is 00:00:39 starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your
Starting point is 00:01:25 podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 221 episode 2 of your daily zeitgeist introduction of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and it is tuesday january 25th 2022 which of course means that it is national florida day all right yep they they needed oneosite Day, which might mean that it's not actually National Florida Day. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Yeah. How do you then apply that across the other holidays? Like, it's like almost like a math equation, like a proof. Your people need to do some research and find a better day because on the opposite day, your day absolutely like people are just gonna shit on your state on national florida day fuck florida what it's opposite day come on man yeah did you ever do opposite day no i don't think so maybe my school like one time did something where like we wore our clothes backwards and inside out. Although I might be confusing that with just my crisscross phase. But yeah. I remember the, like, it's opposite day.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Or, yeah, right, only on opposite day. Or, do you want to get punched? It's opposite day. See, that was the only way it came out. It was never like a day, though. It was just like you pull up somebody. It's opposite day. You want to get punched in your gut?
Starting point is 00:03:27 Yeah. Yeah, I did do that all the time. That was totally what I did. I did it twice. And then if the person said yes, then I was like, fuck. You really listened that time, you fucking clever person. Now I know to not run this one on you. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:43 My name is Jack O'brien aka hey lays you should have stayed away you're another second rate chip we don't miss that is courtesy of podge moran and he's supposed to be nirvana's heart-shaped box in case anyone wasn't following along or was just startled by me shouting hey lays at them kurt came back for that kurt back lives in my heart-shaped box to this day and i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray Somebody, when I'm in need, yeah, he's just trifling with these NFTs. Popeye Jones is a gold digger way over town. I'll drink my pee.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. He take my money. Okay, shout out to Ben Swiller on the Discord. Yes, you were listening. Popeye Jones, the former basketball player, bought a bunch of NFTs. They're not worth nothing anymore. You bought his NFTs. He didn't buy a bunch of NFTs.
Starting point is 00:04:52 I love, look, I always liked Popeye Jones. And when he was announcing, I got NFTs coming out. Y'all should get in on the ground floor. I said, say less, Popeye. Bought them all. Okay? Now, inverted, upside down on this investment. It's not even an investment.
Starting point is 00:05:08 I just gave Popeye Jones all my money. I mean, drinking pee, NFTs, and Popeye Jones nailing everything that is defining the zeitgeist right now. 100%. 100%. Well done to that person who wrote that AK. I'm going to find you in Dresden, Tennessee. I know that's where you're from, bro. I'm going to give me my money, Popeye.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Oh, Popeye Jones. I thought you meant the AKA writer. I was like, we allowed the docs our AKA writers? No, Ronald Jerome Jones. Okay. I will always say his government name. Do not buy NFTs from this guy. Top 10 nicknames of all time.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Just going with like Ronald Nile guy. I'm Popeye. Yeah. Hell yeah. All right. Well, Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of our favorite guests. One of y'all's favorite guests here on TDZ. An extremely talented digital activist and podcast host.
Starting point is 00:06:01 She hosts the brilliant podcast, There Are No Girls on the internet, which, you know, won a shorty. I don't know. No big deal. Please welcome the Brilliant, the talented Bridget Tye! Oh, I'm so happy to be here. I love the announcement you guys give for the guests. I feel
Starting point is 00:06:20 like I'm coming into a reggaeton club. I love it. Yeah. We're missing air horns. Next dance hall queen bridget bridget yes next time i come i will expect air horns i will and you're gonna have to ponder river though even though we're on a zoom call just to make it official or or wine we need some wine in definitely can do yeah okay perfect perfect oh i just read though too Popeye Jones' two sons, they're amazing hockey players. So maybe I'm less mad.
Starting point is 00:06:50 You got to pull up for the black hockey players. Yeah. Anyway, Bridget, what's new? What's going on? Not a lot. Also, speaking of black hockey players, P.K. Subban, I think he's one. He went to my college, I think.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Oh, really? Don't quote me on that. Don't quote me on that. Where'd you go to college? East Carolina University. East Carolina okay don't that might be incorrect but i think i remember hearing that once i don't can you tell i don't follow sports love it love that for your alma mater love that for subhan he he's really good right like last i checked a couple years ago he's good at hockey is that still true miles from what i understand yeah i couldn't tell you i barely watch hot sports
Starting point is 00:07:30 takes from what i understand he's good at hockey hey you want me to commit to an answer here i thought you two were like big into all the sports maybe just not hockey maybe not like cold weather sports i played hockey so i it stands to reason that I would be fairly engaged. But I definitely, once I stopped playing, my attention drifted to other sports. You know, ask me anything about soccer right now and the Lakers and maybe the Western Conference of the NBA. A little bit better. But yeah, hockey, I'm slipping. Just like I would be if I tried to play hockey yeah i can't ice skate
Starting point is 00:08:06 really yeah i uh yeah i went to a skating party like a roller skating party in sixth grade and did not know how to roller skate and fell so frequently uh on the same part of my arm that I had like a like B cup sized like thing on my arm for an entire year. Just like a welt. Oh my God. That was really gross. Like just a big old bump on your arm? Yeah. But like it did not go away.
Starting point is 00:08:36 It was wild. I just picture you falling on the same thing. Jack, you okay? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You keep falling on that arm. I'm doing bits.
Starting point is 00:08:43 It's bits. I actually know how to roller skate. All right, guys, who can go backwards? Bridget, how is Washington, D.C.? What's good? D.C. is good. We were talking earlier about how there's a fugitive loose in my neighborhood. But other than that, D.C. is the same. Yesterday we had, or I guess, yeah, Sunday we had our big anti-vax rally in D.C. And subsequently, thousands of anti-vaxxers swarmed on our city and then like got thrown out of restaurants.
Starting point is 00:09:15 They don't have vaccination cards. Yeah. Interesting time to be in D.C. Yeah. RFK completely reinterpreted the Holocaust. That's right. That's right. It will never cease to amaze me that he is married to Cheryl Hines. Like I can't I can't make my brain understand it. party where they were asking people to test and stuff like that i don't know that's not me you know that's not my brain right but then yeah we were like questions need to be asked like what
Starting point is 00:09:50 does larry davis say we need a deep dive into into that relationship that's truly confounding yeah i mean they were they were like please be vaccinated or get tested right at a party that he was hosting he was like yeah i guess no he wasn't he's party that he was hosting. He was like, yeah, I guess. No, he wasn't. He's like,
Starting point is 00:10:08 my wife was hosting that party, but like he was his cover. Okay. But if your wife is hosting a party and y'all are like, you're hosting it together. If y'all are married. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:17 He was like, I guess that's just more proof that I don't have any say in the house. Yeah. I told you, man, they're running wild, running wild.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Can I do RFK out? Like, what is this? is this but yeah i don't i'm curious through like especially larry david i'm does he must talk wild shit behind her back or is larry david like he's like no you know rfk juniors pretty cool guy right pretty pretty cool they're like the mainstream media doesn't want you to know the truth about vaccines, so I can't say it. But yeah, yikes. Ah, shit. All right. Well, Bridget, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
Starting point is 00:10:54 First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. We're going to talk about NFTs and crypto. They are apparently collapsing. I think there was $130 billion wiped out of the crypto market in the past 24 hours. I have usually, to this point, just completely tuned out any story that had to do with crypto or NFTs. But I watched that feature film length explainer on crypto. The line goes up? Yeah, From the line goes up or I watch most of it and I won't say I watch the whole thing. So I feel a little more confident in saying that
Starting point is 00:11:30 that's all a scam and bullshit. So we'll talk about some of the interesting points that are made in that explainer. And we're going to talk about Newt Gingrich because he is threatening jail time. He's saying and not and not to people who are involved in January 6th, but rather the real criminals of January 6th. The January 6th committee. That's right. If Republicans win, they're going to jail. All of that. Plenty more.
Starting point is 00:11:56 But first, Bridget, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Oh, I'm so excited for this question. Something from my search history. So I have two. are oh i'm so excited for this question something from my search history so i have two one is the real housewives of salt lake city anyone is following that drama with first it was mary possibly running a cult then it was jen possibly being a scanner and now it is jenny in her history of anti-black statements which frankly i'm like not surprised with Bravo's history. So definitely doing a lot of deep dives into that. And then which one is Jenny?
Starting point is 00:12:31 Jenny is the newest one. Her husband asked her for a sister wife. Like that was her big, her big plot line. Oh, like her husband was like, oh, I want to have another baby. But I just saw the first episode I've seen. But yeah, she's she's Asian, right? That's right. OK, wow.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Come on. So I fucking hate about reality shows. Yeah, she's Asian, right? That's right. Okay. Wow. That's what I fucking hate about reality shows is you start watching, because I watch a lot of reality, and whenever I'm watching something, I always be like, just wait for this person's racist shit to come out, because these producers don't give a fuck about anything. Yeah. Well, so what's so... I don't want to spoil it if you haven't seen it, but it's race and racism comes up on the show with jenny in terms of one of the other cast members being like frankly pretty like racist toward her and she calls it out and i was like wow good for her she's really like articulating why racism is bad and then to have this stuff all come out of like her terrible history of nonsense facebook posts it's pretty disappointing but i guess bravo these days is like,
Starting point is 00:13:29 just exploding and imploding in terms of like, putting racist people on TV. Yeah, to that they say Bravo. Thank you so much. And then the second thing from my search history, Jack, I feel like I wanted to talk to you about this because I have a lot of friends who are parents and all my friends who are parents are just like they've they've lost it. They're like they they just are at their wits end. And so I sent a bunch of my friends who have kids bottles of whiskey because they have just like they need they need to pick me up. They need something. The parents are not OK. The parents are having a hard time. Hmm. Yeah. I mean, just in general. hmm yeah i mean just in general yeah i mean it's it's very it's hard being being around your kids all the time uh my kids school has been open for the past like month when it was not open
Starting point is 00:14:19 it was very difficult yeah i think that's probably a nice thing to do for the parents to just like kind of encourage day drinking i feel like the second time around kindergarten preschool whatever it's both boring but also like you get your feelings hurt by if the teacher like doesn't call on your kid or whatever it's just like so stupid like all the all the dumb toxic things that come along with parenting are just highlighted and then the math is really hard you know my son's in kindergarten i find that math very difficult so yeah yeah i don't drink so i have turned to meditation oh it's probably healthier three to four hours a day just meditating in my room by myself just noise canceling headphones i'm like i think you're
Starting point is 00:15:11 just taking naps really great really really centering myself yeah but shout out to all the parents out there and especially shout out to the teachers please don't parents don't take it out on the teachers oh yes i i mean imagine being like a double a double combo of like being a parent and then also a teacher i have a friend who is that who that is her life and she says yeah sometimes i just go in the backyard and scream right bro yeah don't don't be a snitch or look at your neighbor weird if they're just in their backyard screaming at the top of their lungs, especially if they have kids. And especially if you're just screaming like, this is just for catharsis!
Starting point is 00:15:52 And then people are like, oh, okay. I don't need to... No need to interpret that. Very clear what the screams are about. I am not in danger! Make your cathartic screams very clear that you're not in danger. And it's purely a catharsis scream. I feel like a good goddammit is also pretty clear that you are the one who's angry.
Starting point is 00:16:17 You know. But yes, do it outside the earshot of your children. Do it in the backyard. What is something that you think is overrated? Something I think is overrated is the metaverse. I saw this video of a rave taking place in the metaverse. And the person who tweeted it was like, oh, doesn't this look like fun? And I just thought to myself, no, it really doesn't. And like, why would I want to sit in my house wearing an Oculus to attend this? No, I'm not interested.
Starting point is 00:16:55 I mean, we are investing everything, every ad dollar this show earns into putting it purely on the metaverse, building out a metaverse experience. We believe in the metaverse here. No, I'm just joking. Yeah, it looks like shit. It looks like absolute shit. Yeah, it looks like shit. It looks like absolute shit. It does. It's I saw somebody I need to find this tweet, but it's basically applying that that theory that like whenever think that happened to mark zuckerberg because like once he became a internationally famous like ceo like that that was around the time that this sort of thing would have been considered cool it was like you know sims and second life and like that and vr was still like kind of the wave of the future type thing yeah it just seems very like
Starting point is 00:17:51 retrograde he's got that oh six technology swag yeah exactly he's like dude what i feel like yeah i feel like it's such a throwback to like yeah yeah, the Sims. Like I feel like we've been here before. And also I just feel like any kind of technology that means that people are going to have to wear something bulky on their face, like an Oculus, to experience it really, I just don't see becoming like very commonplace. I'm sure people are like, I know people who are having great experiences with their VR headsets and I love that for them. But I just don't see it being like a commonplace everyday household thing like people just don't want to wear a bulky thing on their head yeah or just
Starting point is 00:18:32 or like what it offers right and I've I've consistently said until it's something that is really blurring the lines of our like reality and like what our perceptive reality I don't know like that's that's the kind of push where you you'd be like oh shit man like you put this thing on and you really might think you're
Starting point is 00:18:50 on top of a fucking mountain like maybe that happens and then we go down a slippery slope with people just like in their houses not doing anything because they just have a headset on but for me i think i just see limited use like again i'd love to watch an immersive music video with a headset. That might be cool. Or play a certain game or anything. But I don't know. Hours long wearing is just... I don't know.
Starting point is 00:19:14 For me, I just want to go to the Matrix, if I'm being honest. Yeah. I feel like it's good that people have like some cool video games to play with them like and i've heard of people doing like hangouts with friends that they like can't otherwise see you know like hang being in the same room with people that are like across the country like during the pandemic might be a cool thing to do but like everything about the facebook what like facebook you don't need the facebook's metaverse to do any of that shit like people already have it and like in fact connecting it to a massive corporation that is trying to like up like sort of manipulate your behavior and like
Starting point is 00:19:59 monetize you is like the exact opposite of what would be cool about right absolutely completely agree so i watch nba basketball and like sometimes i'll be watching a like you know philadelphia broadcast i think it was i forget who it was i think it was a philadelphia broadcast and there was like a ad for like broadband internet and they had like the family doing vr they were like now we can do vr together and then like the dad like puts on the vr headset and then like the whole family everybody has vr headsets on and they're all just like wandering around with their hands in front of them like they're blindfolded so it's just like it's entered the it's entered the zeitgeist but like the the majority
Starting point is 00:20:46 of people don't really know what it is or like how people use it so yeah but yeah i think most of the videos people see are people falling over or like like plowing through drywall because they're so like disoriented having a vr set so i get why they're like and vr and the depiction of that is like disoriented people in a room it's like and vr and the depiction of that is like disoriented people in a room it's never like vr and it's like kids being like thanks dad i just got a new uh i got my third degree in particle physics like right that's not what it's offering you yeah but anyway you know look out for the tdz meta app or whatever the fuck it's gonna be called our metaverse dude yeah you buy into ours we just berate you for buying into it
Starting point is 00:21:25 wrong with you all you need fucking money back all you need is the tdz nft the nft dz to enter the chat with us and it seems like you're in a room with miles and i yeah folks we're gonna have a really great offer for you guys coming out of the second mid-roll. Stay locked for that because Zytecoin is launching. Yeah. What is something you think is underrated? Something I think is underrated is, you know, the sort of like 2008 emo scene-ster style. Ever since they came out with that music festival when we were young, People have been talking about like, oh, what were you, you know, what were you wearing in 2008? What were you wearing in 2009? And I went back and
Starting point is 00:22:09 looked at myself. I was definitely like an alt type in 2008. And I actually don't think those fashions were half bad. You know, people were rocking the like hair swoop, like the bang swoop over the one eye, a lot of piercings you know i don't think those fashions were half bad i would wear some of that today yeah yeah i mean if i saw some like an adult like i saw the other day i did see an emo adult guy and i was like oh cool like i was just like yeah all right man i remember that shit and i'm glad you fucking you ride for that so hard i'm like i'm hopeful i'm hoping that's a good person but yeah whatever i mean that doesn't seem i like that i mean to pull off some of the like intricate hair dye things i remember from then i'll take my hat
Starting point is 00:22:56 off to that yeah it's like we were just having so much fun back in 2008 it was a fun time to be a young person right and some of that's been like influential right like there's still a lot of like you know i don't know some of those styles you see among kids like to this day i feel like it's not it's not like a thing that just went embarrassingly out of fashion like a lot of big swings do from uh teenagers yeah well i mean i know a lot of people who are probably very happy for their hair uh for the amount of like shit that they were doing to achieve these looks especially if you had any amount of texture to it i am saying this because then the listeners can't see this but i am trying out the swoop over the one eye yeah and you keep blinking because you're like it's you keep saying it's very frustrating you're like it's very frustrating yeah i've taken to just closing one of the one of the eyes but
Starting point is 00:23:52 i don't know how they pulled it off yeah your lip rings are healing though pretty well yeah i mean not bad they're still you know kind of connecting in one big infection in the middle but yeah well for the most part like they're it seems like we're big infection in the middle. But for the most part, it seems like we're making progress in the right direction. And your gauges are nice. Your ear holes from your gauges are nice and stretched out, you know? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:14 And that's what I, it's not so much the look with the gauges in as much as like, I like the just loose dangly thing when they're out, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Just like getting those. Floppy lobes. Yeah. Just like getting those floppy lobes. Yeah. Just being able to like
Starting point is 00:24:26 kind of I've always ever since I heard that children's song do your ears hang low? Do they wobble to and fro? I've been like please teach me. Teach me.
Starting point is 00:24:35 That's been your one goal since you were a child. And then when I saw Gage's I'm like here we go. Time in a knot. Time in a bow. Yes please. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Can you throw him over your shoulder like a continental soldier? Wait a second. What? I feel like that's got to be bad. Can you throw them over your shoulder as you extract natural resources? Do your ears hang low? Wait, what was that last part?
Starting point is 00:25:00 What was that last part? All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. What's that last part? All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Sanner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a
Starting point is 00:25:49 lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jess Costavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories
Starting point is 00:26:30 behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives.
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Starting point is 00:27:26 People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros,
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Starting point is 00:29:17 And we're back. And all right, let's talk. Let's talk NFTs and crypto. So this is a thing that I have felt wildly unqualified to talk about to this point and feel just regular unqualified to talk about at this point. After I watched that two hour explainer online goes up that, you know, just kind of dug into the details of how the nft market and the crypto market work and it's pretty meticulous to the point that i understood every other word maybe at best it's also over two hours but basically his thesis his analysis is that crypto like really isn't shit and has never really been like shit what they promised it would be yeah like right the stuff that i think has prevented me and a lot of people
Starting point is 00:30:14 from doing a deep dive is you know that it's technological and financially intricate and complex and those are two things that a lot of people aren't well versed in but apparently like his theories that's like part of a feature of the system not a bug like it's meant to be to dissuade people from criticizing it or like trying to understand it who aren't part of the market in the same way that a cult like has a buy-in where you know you spend the time to learn the secret language and then after a certain point you're like kind of pot committed a little bit but the big picture issue is that that is still the same issue i've had with it instead of spending our human capital and lives and energy and love trying to form communities that actually help other people and solve each other's problems. We're basically spending it on creating new, complicated, time-swallowing systems and communities that are basically just copies of the ones that we
Starting point is 00:31:25 currently have just with like different problems but similar dynamics where the people who are rich are able to exploit the people who are less rich and yeah it's just very predatory and people are losing a lot of money on it it seems like yeah. Yeah. And I think it's also, you know, like I got through about the first hour or so of it. And just generally, like the thing that I like, I always sort of inherently kind of half understood from what I read and what I've heard anecdotally from people I know who are like kind of heavy into it is that, you know, there is this huge thing of like normalizing the idea of investing in crypto and NFTs to to keep the pool of investors large enough that for your theoretical amount of money that you have, you can actually pull that out. But the only way you do that is by ensuring that there's a constant introduction of new people putting money into the market.
Starting point is 00:32:21 And when you look at sort of those things like just how like, you know, the Staples Center became crypto.com arena. And just like, we're seeing it all over from commercials that have like really high paid celebrities and things like that, that there is a push. And I always see it from people with a lot of money, who are the ones being like, man, you got to get into crypto, right? As if that that's an explanation for their existing wealth rather than like people already having the means and then saying like oh here's a new way i can get in because i have enough capital to truly profit from it rather than someone who says maybe oh let me start with like five hundred dollars and see where that goes all the arguments i've heard for it like that it's distributed and not like centrally like controlled which he dispels but like just from a broad perspective even without like watching all the technical ways that like the whole thing is kind of a lie any any claim that like nfts and crypto and that whole world have to being a underground sort of more like ground level system probably go out the window the second that Matt Damon is doing a Super Bowl ad for the product. And I know this is unpopular with a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:33:45 rich, but they're getting rich the same way that people have gotten rich in the current system. This is supposed to replace, which is just that people who buy in early and then are able to manipulate the market in a way that like more people buy in. Like it's just people using influence to drive up the market and victimize people. And that's absolutely it. I mean, I watched the whole thing over the weekend and I found it the whole documentary. I found it fascinating. And all the things that you have just said, I completely agree with. I think, you know, I'm reminded quite a bit of if you've read the book or seen the film, The Big Short, about how a lot of this stuff is purposely opaque to give you the sense that like, oh, it must be legit or it must be too complicated for little old me to understand. And they actually build in all of these complex words and sort of, you know, like big ideas and acronyms and such to give you the impression that it's like very
Starting point is 00:34:36 smart people doing very smart things and don't ask too many questions about it. But one of the things that I was really struck by in the two-hour YouTube explainer that you were just talking about is the way that they use this very culty behavior. They really capitalize on the cultiness of human behavior to keep people in. And so it kind of becomes this kind of toxic positivity thing where people wake up and they say GM to each other, good morning to each other. And even that small thing is to signal to other people, like I'm invested in this. We're going to take this thing to the moon. You know, if, if, you know, all of these people really just being hyper invested in the fact that they're going to make it. And it really reminded me, if you've ever known anybody who is involved in an MLM, it is the exact same thing. Like, I could not believe it.
Starting point is 00:35:27 It's like, it's basically like, yeah, they took the same kind of business model of like, making people feel bad for questioning whether or not this is working for them. Anybody in your life who has the audacity to suggest that like, this might not actually be a sound investment, you need to cut them out of your life. You need to be committed to this. It is the exact same thing. It's really kind of scary. Yeah. You got to have those diamond hands.
Starting point is 00:35:50 You know what I mean? You got to hold on for dear life. Not paper hands. Yeah. And that's like the language, right? Holding on for dear life. It's all inbuilt, I think, to sort of maintain that sort of kind of behavior. And I think what's really slick about it, though,
Starting point is 00:36:08 is like, to your point, Jack, like there is a way to look at and say, you're not really getting like this isn't some like moral way, like some moral investment you're getting involved in, especially when you look at the things like the energy consumption that are involved with it. But what it does is it allows for people to not really engage with that dimension of what it means to be invested in crypto. Because I know many people who like very early on were just interested. They're like, oh, this could be interesting and began investing and have made money, but they'll never look at it for like, they're like, yeah, there's bad stuff, but they have to compartmentalize a lot because I think it is also, it is jarring for someone to think like, if you just gave them the definition, like,
Starting point is 00:36:47 I think it is also it is jarring for someone to think like if you just gave them the like definition, like, actually, this is all just a MLM. And you're doing this in service of people who are much wealthier than you. Those are people who stand to make even more money than you. And, you know, your participation in this helps the jig along. I don't know the degree to which Peter Thiel is like behind all of this. It's pretty fucking shocking. I'm like, like you know a worst case scenario that like you'd be like yeah but it can't be like that bad but yeah peter teal no mr blood drinker i mean allegedly it reminds me of like seeing q like rise up in politics like people are funneling
Starting point is 00:37:18 an understandable frustration with the economic and political realities in our country into like a sort of a different system that is a replication of the same system. This is, you know, when we talk about the lack of imagination that we have for imagining like other systems, I think it's understandable because we have like our schooling and everything has just taught us that like America is the best. This is the only way to run a actual world. And like as we're seeing problems crop up, the only thing we know to do with our frustrations is to just like be like, well, what if we did another America that was like miniature and like had memes or, you know, whatever. The memes are the money. and like had memes or, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 00:38:04 The memes are the money. But it's like we've just been so thoroughly like reprogrammed by capitalism to a very like cellular level in our both like mind and spirit that like this is the only thing we're capable of producing is just more more capitalism, like you know right sort of predatory systems to prey on one another and then you get to see like the other people get rich and then you chase that even though you're almost by definition too late and yeah it's just like cap like when you view capitalism as a as its own like actor within human history it's like yeah capitalism already has like figured out the singularity capitalism is is destroying us all and like is like 15 steps ahead and i don't i don't know the answer other than like to learn about
Starting point is 00:39:02 and tell people and teach each other about like other systems that have worked better than this one. Yeah. Well, I think culturally, though, the like the sort of mainstream idea of what it means to invest is always like go from nothing to millionaire and make as much money as you can make. Make your investment fucking 5x, 8x, 10 X, 20 X that shit. And the idea is always like, what's the most I can get as quickly as possible, or just what's the most I can get. And that, I think that sort of basic motivation will always just because of our human nature, all roads are always going to lead to this point. And yeah, I think because of the, you know, there's not a coin. It's like, hey, man, with every, I don't even know what you do.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Like every fucking coin we sell, you were that much closer to reversing Citizens United or some shit. I don't know like what the answer is there. But yeah, like because of the massive inequality, it's these kinds of things are only even more incentivized for people. So it's always going to things are only even more incentivized for people so it's it's always going to be a win-win game when you we have a huge chunk of the population that is in a state of lack and there's nothing better to then be like you know who because it's the same thing even with
Starting point is 00:40:17 like colt or you know like tony robbins type shit where it's like let me find the people at their lowest because that's who's gonna i can convert those people really easily and not to say that every person investing is at their lowest but the sort of disparities that we have and like especially income inequality or income equality you know keeps this keeps this thing very viable yeah i mean the profile of the average NFT owner and crypto owner is very much middle class people who probably don't have the disposable income to have $130 billion wiped out of the crypto market. It's truly fucked up. But like his thesis is at least partially that part of the reason that everybody's so like defensive and like, fuck you, you just like don't understand or you're just like part of a system that like doesn't want me to get rich is because there's like an insecurity because, you know, they're part of a group that has been excluded from, you know, the big like financial institutions and shit so right they are just kind of creating the same sort of self-defense and like self-defending sort of attack culture that they were victimized by yeah absolutely and i think that also speaks to a problem that we have in media that i think the film made a really good point about the fact that like,
Starting point is 00:41:46 I think it was November or December when everybody was talking about NFTs, it was like the hot thing. And a big part of that was driven by a media landscape that I think didn't fully understand it and was not nearly skeptical enough of a lot of these claims that were being made. But they talk about how like, you know, crypto folks and NFT folks were able to generate all this good press just in a press release. And then whether or not the things that were laid out in that release actually came to fruition, well, no media, you know, person ever followed up with that,
Starting point is 00:42:19 and how they were really able to control the conversation around it and control, you know, or generate. The one thing they were able to really generate conversation around it and control, you know, or generate the one thing they were able to really generate was sort of buzz and attention. And that like, at a certain point, that's kind of very lucrative in its own right. And so I think that, you know, I hope that going forward, we will be able to have more substantive conversations about crypto and, you know, decentralization, but conversations that are not not led by media folks who don't really know what they're talking about or people who are incentivized to really sell you on it who are like completely positive and like have nothing
Starting point is 00:42:56 critical or skeptical to say about it right when that was especially that one part when he was like you might have seen articles talking about how venezuela is on the brink of going to all cryptos other countries in central or latin america are about to go fully on cryptos like that was coming out of like two investment guys in san bernardino like who were seeding those stories and you're like holy shit it and like and then again you see because i always notice the kinds of people who i'll get really evangelical about it and i've you know i've jack's been there we've had interactions with people who have lots of money and the way they talk about crypto it does almost seem like they're like yeah man i need people to get in here man so i can keep making more money like we got to make this thing as normal as possible and and again who can blame
Starting point is 00:43:40 anybody who decides to invest because on a certain level you're like i saw this money in and this money come out and on that very basic level it draws people in but without knowing all of the dimensions of it i think it can can make for terrible outcomes for some people like i can only imagine if there are people who lost tons of money with the crash over the weekend like what their portfolios look like or what they, you know, if they're not diversified or whatever, that's why this investment shit is so much.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Yeah, that's the thing. Like you could look at the fact that crypto lost that much, the crypto market lost that much money and be like, ah, so finally there's like a self-correcting thing with the market. And be like, ah, so finally, this is like a self-correcting thing with the market. I would guess it's actually a thing where the people who are middle class and don't have the ability to like, you know, stake themselves and like ride one of something like this out a chance for the really wealthy to consolidate wealth and then like continue to build this market out because it does feel like the NFT market has gone so mainstream that it's going to be a thing that the powers that be will not allow to fail at this point.
Starting point is 00:44:56 So we're going to have to look at those ugly chip paintings forever. Like that's just going to be what we will be. Or those like glitch, those like glitch Twitter profiles. We're going to have to keep those around. Great. I think it's going to be like get more and more official where it's going to be like now you're like Social Security card is NFT. Like that's at least what he seems to be predicting is like they're trying to infiltrate like unions and all sorts of shit.
Starting point is 00:45:26 to infiltrate like unions and all sorts of shit like the things like this where there's a big sell-off and then like rich people now have a bunch of value in the crypto market like you know now they're incentivized to like build this out and make it legit and like you're already seeing that like that the attempt to make it legit as you you talked about, Bridget, is like, you know, the all the mainstream media coverage of this like is treating it like, yeah, no, this is all good and legit. And it's going to just end up being another way for the people who have insane amounts of money to, you know, keep making money. Yeah. Keep building that. Keep making money. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:03 Keep building that. Anyway, but, and all that, you know, and I think that is a good discussion to have. I do want to say that that's not going to affect the launch of Jack and I's new cryptocurrency, Zytecoin. No. Yeah. Like, there's one thing. So, all of that is about that kind of NFT. And then here we are offering you an amazing ground floor opportunity to have diamond hands with our, our,
Starting point is 00:46:27 what is it? Zite coin? Zite coin. Yeah. And basically it's really easy, right? Like to enter this exchange, you're going to need to have at least 1400 Zite coin in your wallet.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Right. To be a part of it. So that is an initial investment of $1,400 or a dollar a coin right now. And I know that's kind of a high price, but I'm just telling you, man, if this thing goes to $2, that's $2,800. Miles and I are so rich. Think about it. And you guys too, right? Probably.
Starting point is 00:46:56 I was saying you and I will be so rich. I mean, them, I don't know. Jokes aside. Plus Bank of America, who is staking a lot of this for us. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Is backing us in this new adventure that we're really excited about. Do you remember that one section in the documentary about how, like, at a certain point, you would start seeing, like, Bitcoin accepted here sticker being slapped up? Because for them, the people who are doing that, it was purely about the optics of creating a reality for people.
Starting point is 00:47:22 They go, oh, shit, man man the bodega is gonna take crypto like this place takes bitcoin or this place has a crypto atm outside of it remember there's a crypto atm on uh like right by the old office in hollywood and we're like yo what the fuck nobody's using the future man yeah but they were also like when they were putting those stickers up they were doing it knowing that nobody would actually use it. And they were just stickers. They weren't like they were like, hey, could I put the sticker on your cash register? Like it doesn't mean anything.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Just OK. Yeah. I mean, not to take it back to MLMs, but if anyone's seen that document, that docuseries Lula rich about the lula road uh pyramid scheme that's exactly the same thing they would do they would make it appear like everyone is wearing these leggings and anybody who is involved in selling these leggings like they have beautiful homes and take wonderful trips because of it you know whether or not that like like that wasn't actually true but just the appearance of that was what what actually created the currency and i think like ever since watching that documentary,
Starting point is 00:48:26 I just can't see, I cannot stop seeing like the parallels between any other like MLM scheme, the kind of thing that you think like, wow, how did educated people get duped into this and seeing the way that we're, that they're trying to normalize what seems so obviously to be tough, at least for a lot of folks, a scam,
Starting point is 00:48:44 you know, the way that they're trying to like like, make it not a scam. Right. Right, right, right. Yeah. Hmm. All right. Well, we're, you know, I can't wait to hear from the people
Starting point is 00:48:53 who have diamond hands in our mentions. I will just ask that, you know, we will put this explainer, two and a half hour long, but we will put it in the footnotes of this episode please watch that before you tell us that we're full of shit please hey qq followers please watch q into the storm before responding yeah but i don't know i mean like but i mean i feel like in this case there are like some well-meaning people who just believe, you know, the central myth of this thing. I know people who have made a lot of money. I have a friend who made a ton of money. Right. Off crypto. And he's not like wealthy by any stretch of the imagination, but he took a really big swing and it paid off for him. took a really big swing and it paid off for him and you know that that's only gotten him interested in all the other sort of like imaginations of this this new uh industry but you know i'm curious to
Starting point is 00:49:52 say i almost got to check in i'm like yeah what what how's your how's your shit looking since the weekend right yeah i mean it's also like it's absurdly easy to steal and all sorts of security issues and yeah my main thing is like, it's a... Whatever, Zytecoin, Zytecoin all day. It's a testament to like where we're at that rather than, you know, we're faced with global problems that need to be fixed.
Starting point is 00:50:16 And rather than like putting wealth towards that, we've chosen to like just create a casino, essentially, that like plays by the rules of hey look if you like gambling then hop on in man no shade to you but you know don't that's what it is don't think it's doing the thing that they're saying it it is or that it's fully the future of like decentralization of like a financial system because look at the boards yeah yeah it does seem like the that that was the thing that I was still like, but that seems cool when we talked about it in the past.
Starting point is 00:50:50 And according to this explainer, it does seem like the system is inherently flawed so that the second it gets big enough to do anything of value, it becomes too easy to manipulate and steal. And the code is just really buggy and fucked. So anyways, good luck out there. And yeah, stay tuned for an exciting announcement. We will be right back with more. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:55:33 And so the January 6th committee seems to be picking up a little steam. You know, unclear what that exactly means, but they are sending some very strongly worded letters asking people to stop by for a chat. There's big news at the end of last week that Ivanka was being asked to stop by. Trump was like, they're going after our children, our old adult children. Right. This is how do they know no boundaries? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:04 So, yeah, it's i don't again yeah it's true i don't know what this the the momentum means outside of letters i'm hoping it means something but it's clear that every time they have these letters they are dropping little nuggets like so we know what you were texting that day and this is what it was do you care to come talk about it and like the information that comes out there's always something new you're like oh wow most of the fox news people were had a hand in either like trying to consult on the build-up or the aftermath or what to do to try and be like okay maybe we can distract them with like separate talk but it looks like you know even
Starting point is 00:56:41 though they're all in on acting like nothing happened, the way that a lot of Republicans are speaking in the last few weeks, it sounds like they're somewhat aware that there is a lot of tangible evidence that something terrible happened and they knew about it and participated in it. And they don't like that part. So now we have this old ass racist scarecrow, Newt Gingrich, talking from the field, being like, let me tell you what you need to be afraid of. And we need to be afraid of the Republicans coming to power because people will go to jail. I don't know. Here, just listen for yourself. You're going to have a Republican majority in the House and a Republican majority in the Senate. And all these people who've been so tough and so mean and so nasty are going to be delivered THE SENATE, AND ALL THESE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN SO TOUGH AND SO MEAN AND SO NASTY ARE GOING TO BE DELIVERED SUBPOENAS FOR EVERY DOCUMENT, EVERY CONVERSATION,
Starting point is 00:57:29 EVERY TWEET, EVERY E-MAIL, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S CLEAR THAT THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE LITERALLY JUST RUNNING OVER THE LAW, PURSUING INNOCENT PEOPLE, CAUSING THEM TO SPEND THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN LEGAL FEES FOR NO
Starting point is 00:57:42 JUSTIFICATION, AND IT'S BASICALLY A LYNCH MOB, AND UNFORTUNATELY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE UNITED STATES HAS JOINED THAT and thousands of dollars in legal fees for no justification. And it's basically a lynch mob. And unfortunately, the attorney general of the United States has joined that lynch mob and is totally misusing the FBI. And I think when you have a Republican Congress, this is all going to come crashing down and the wolves are going to find out that they're now sheep. And they're the ones who are, in fact, going to, I think, face a real risk of jail for the kind of laws they're breaking. OK. Wow. Thank you for that.
Starting point is 00:58:08 That was a lot. A lot to unpack. True to form, the racist scarecrow did his did his best to remind us who he is. But just more broadly, I mean, at the very end, right, that the all these laws they're breaking sir which which laws are those like i don't because again this he sort of just started doing this tit for tat he's like all right well then we're gonna get it we're gonna subpoena every thing from them every tweet every email but these people aren't weren't necessarily architects of an attempted coup so sure you can get their boring emails but the the thrust of the investigation is actually there's there's there's a direction of an attempted coup. So, sure, you can get their boring emails, but the thrust of the investigation is actually,
Starting point is 00:58:48 there's a direction, whereas this, it's just like, we'll make you guys look bad, too. No, no, no, no, no. I was actually with him up until saying that they are going to see jail time because the Republicans are going to win back the House, probably, in the next midterm, like, almost definitely. They are going to react to that power by then making this, like, Benghazi times 10 and, like, trying to fuel a massive, like, investigation into anything having to do with january 6th commission and then like you know just to put up a smoke
Starting point is 00:59:26 screen so that like that becomes the focus and then it'll be the the actual events of january 6th are going to be like five levels deep beneath like just layers and layers of bullshit and they will have achieved their end there but the idea that like they're going to then go to jail for doing their job is obviously ridiculous. And I think he knows it's ridiculous. But this is a threat that I think they'll probably make good on is like making, you know, using their power once they're back in power to just be insufferable, authoritarian pieces of shit. Yeah, I mean, I think we're already sort of seeing that writing on the wall i think that the actual events of january 6th as you said become so buried and in like
Starting point is 01:00:12 a seven layer dip of disinformation racism like complete bullshit uh complete i just did a podcast where i couldn't swear and I have like, don't swear in my head. That podcast probably wasn't backed by Zytecoin. It's true. It's true. It should be. If they're smart, if they get in early, if they're smart. That's right.
Starting point is 01:00:33 We're unstoppable, baby. Anyway, I'm sorry. Go on. Yeah, I think we're already seeing it being wrapped in so many layers of bullshit that people, and I think that's on purpose. I think they want people to hear January 6th and be like, oh, I'm so sick of talking about that. Oh, I don't even remember what happened. And I think I'm sad to say, I think that that the writing is on the wall, that that is an effective strategy and they are pursuing it. Oh, yeah. I mean, I think it's always been an effective strategy, no matter how you look at it. It's just about, hey, look over there. What about that? They
Starting point is 01:01:01 like they had people in the street, too, for another reason. But we won't dive into the why of that. Just that there were people in the street on the left at one point. And that's not being looked at. Also, I mean, what's going on with critical race theory? Like, yeah, it just does. It spins your head and you'll never you'll never arrive at hearing a conversation among conservatives. It's like, what really happened and how do we explain what happened versus. No, you're you're you're you're marching orders folks just completely you're going to talk about other things because i see this a lot in like videos i see on the internet of like people ranting about the election they only they only talk in these fox news talking points and then like when they get it when they try and really like drill down on what they're saying it starts falling apart where it's like no man
Starting point is 01:01:44 because this is part of the tyranny man that, that we're seeing. And then, you know, because you already see it, man, with what they're doing in the schools, man, and then the kids that, you know, that's child abuse. And you're like, oh, OK, wow. Like they really found a way to get you outraged without knowing what you're outraged about. And yeah, it's and it's always, I think, knowing what you're outraged about. And yeah, it's and it's always, I think, been an effective strategy. And I think what's clear is that they definitely don't like that, that this committee is clearly gathering a lot of really clear cut evidence of what happened and who was involved and who was saying what when. And it seems like, too, this is also part of Newt Gingrich having to be like, yo, like, I'm not scared, but I'm gonna make threats. That's for
Starting point is 01:02:26 sure. But I'm not scared. That's the thing. I'm not scared. And now you have Matt Gaetz coming into the fold too, because he's someone who's on the brink of vanishing behind bars at a certain, at some point, he's getting in saying the same thing, saying, you know, this, he's like, I agree with Newt Gingrich. He goes on to say, quote, it's going to be the days of Jim Jordan and Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene. And you know, we're going to, and you know what, we're going to get answers. And then he just started like talking about a bunch of just, you know, boilerplate right-wing grievances. Then goes on, quote, real answers about what happened in the election, answers about the Wuhan Institute of Virology, and certainly answers about Department of Justice and a national security apparatus that
Starting point is 01:03:04 has gone totally off the rails. Okay, you're currently under investigation. And I'm sure you'd love nothing more than to have a party take power that can somehow keep you out. But, yeah, I don't know. Do you think there'll be any answers about his ongoing investigation on sex trafficking? Will we find answers about that or no? Hey, okay, look, hopefully that'll go away. But yeah, that's but I mean, like that's when you see the kind of people who are jumping
Starting point is 01:03:31 into they have a lot to lose. And I probably feel on some level that the walls definitely are closing. And especially, you know, with Gates, we talked, I think, like three weeks, two or three weeks ago, you know, his former girlfriend who was underage at the time went to go speak to give testimony about their relationship. So it's yeah, I don't know. I mean, but what's clear is that they are motivated. They're very, very motivated because I'm sure even if there was like a 20 page report, they'd do everything in their power to be like we can't have it's all lies legally
Starting point is 01:04:05 gathered documentation yeah and just it's like what what is happening with the republican party the past year like since trump was out of office is probably as disturbing as what was happening when he was in office like where are all those like lincoln projects like people who were supposed you know like the the middle conservatives who like this thing is completely out of any sort of like there's no gravitational core to like the republican universe it's all just like whatever the fuck anyone wants to say, like where, where are those people who are supposed to be like,
Starting point is 01:04:48 I'm here for the Republican party. Are they, were they like, no, they got shouted out of the room and they're, they have nothing else to do except, except waste money on these like ad buys that, you know,
Starting point is 01:05:00 aren't like tipping the scales. Like they think that it's like, it's all their own ego. It's like, bro, you can't do shit. I don't care if you used to be a Republican. This thing has completely evolved. So the tactics are not going to hold up at all. It makes me really sad.
Starting point is 01:05:17 I currently work in advocacy and politics. I've worked in this space for a really long time. In the beginning of my time in this space for a really long time. And in the beginning of my time in this space, I would talk to conservatives and I didn't agree with their policies and things of that. I thought they were bad, but we were having conversations about policies. And I can be like, oh, this is a policy that I feel like it's not good because X, Y, Z. We're no longer having conversations like that. I spend a lot of my time combating absolute nonsense. The things that you just talked about, like, oh, they're hurting our kids, what's going on with schools, things that are just complete
Starting point is 01:05:52 fabrications from extremists on the right. We're no longer having conversations about, you know, policy disagreements and sort of like, you know, substantive disagreements or things that we disagree about, you know, the way the country should be run. They're like wages. Exactly. We're just combating complete nonsense because that's the only thing this party can traffic in. That's all they have is like nonsense and scams. They don't have anything real to offer anybody even to combat. Right. Because who was it? Was it Sununu whounu who was like nah i don't think i'm gonna
Starting point is 01:06:26 run for the senate because i was basically told if i'm there all i'm gonna do is obstruct anything that happens correct there won't be any real work and he like articulated that even as a Republican he's like so i'm gonna run for governor because that's what the senate does now it's like they just go and say no and that doesn't feel like work. So I was surprised. I'm like, oh, look at you, Mr. Wannabe upstanding politician. Right. I mean, when have you ever heard of like a Marjorie Taylor Greene or like or a Matt Gaetz governing? You hear about them grandstanding. You hear about them, you know, doing some sort of wild stunt. When was the last time you heard about any kind of like actual substantive policy coming out of their mouth?
Starting point is 01:07:09 For me, it's never. I've never heard that from any of those guys. No, especially not a policy that would enrich someone's life. No, never. Like everyone's, you know, at most like I'm introducing this bill to keep, you know, trans children from playing sports. Like that's the platform. It's like we're here to subtract.
Starting point is 01:07:27 Yeah, we're here to subtract. We're not here to add anything. And if we are adding something, it's just more vitriol and, you know, confusion. Exactly. It's taking like books by authors of color out of libraries. It's not putting money into the bank accounts of American families or like meals on the table. It's not enriching anybody's life. You're exactly right.
Starting point is 01:07:47 Yeah. Well, Bridget, such a pleasure having you as always. We made it through the episode without anyone busting into your apartment and saying, I didn't kill my wife. I don't care. Hey, are you going big on Sitecoin? Whoa.
Starting point is 01:08:03 Doing a big viral marketing campaign. Where can people find you, follow you, big on Sitecoin? Whoa. Doing a big viral marketing campaign. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Yes, you can listen to my podcast. There are no girls on the internet. It's on this very network, iHeartRadio. We have all kinds of interesting conversations about women and gender and culture and the internet and tech. We talk about crypto.
Starting point is 01:08:22 So please, please check it out. We'd love to have you there. You can find me on Instagram at Bridget Marie in DC or on Twitter at Bridget Marie. Yeah, yeah. Is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? There is. So this is a tweet from RavenNinja89.
Starting point is 01:08:42 And it's a picture of the giving tree. But instead of the giving tree, it just says and it's a picture of the giving tree but instead of the giving tree it just says it's giving and the tree has nails and lashes it's giving honey oh it cracks me up so stupid it's so stupid but I love stupid things Oh, it cracks me up. So stupid. It's so stupid, but I love stupid things.
Starting point is 01:09:10 God, and I'll buy that NFT. Fuck it. Yeah, yeah. Gotta own that one. It's a giving coin. That's my main problem with NFTs. Their sense of humor sucks. It's a giving coin, honey.
Starting point is 01:09:20 Yeah. Miles, where can people find you? What is the tweet you've been enjoying? They can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. And also the other show for 20 Day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra. We talk about trash reality shows that also have racists pop up and the audience has to do their own research and be like, uh, did y'all see this? And then the producers like we have no comment. Like this is I don't even know I'm watching this stuff anymore.
Starting point is 01:09:44 But check it out because we have a good time. Some tweets that I like. Let's see. First one is from Zach Reiner at Zach, Z-A-C-H-R-E-I-N-E-R-T, zero, tweeted, if I owned a pizza place, I'd open for breakfast and just serve cold slices from the night before. Yeah. Yeah. Really?
Starting point is 01:10:02 I would love that. And it's like at a discount, you're like, yo, go cold slice up the street they're like you're like three for a buck yeah and then also the second one from allison agosti at allison agosti tweeted most of being in a relationship is saying look at the dog right now oh my god me but for the cat all day long it's like all we talk about is like oh the cat's doing something you see the cat what the cat's doing i have that too i have one cat who like she'll hang her head like off of whatever she's like it's like laying on so it looks like she's like nodding out or something look at her she's all sleepy and when you have kids same shit still the pets yeah still the pets
Starting point is 01:10:42 hey the dog hey dipshit look at what the dog's doing right now. It's like the dog's reading. Get with it. Exactly. All right, you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. Some tweets I've been enjoying. Madison Breck tweeted, truly so funny. And Donnie Darko, when the science teacher guy is like,
Starting point is 01:11:00 Donnie, I can't answer any more time travel questions. I could lose my job i just love being reminded of like i thought that movie was so smart when i never seen that oh my god oh bro i thought it was so i was like yo yeah i was every time i said that every white person i know said you ever seen donnie darko that or boondock saints i'm like no man i was watching belly i i thought boondock saints was dumb but i was like donnie darko now there's that shit's dope is all i know is there's some rabbit in donnie darko there are like some cool moments in donnie darko but like the like kind of it's full of you know high school student big
Starting point is 01:11:43 ideas it straight up does not make any sense. Like anybody who is like, explain the ending. You can't. It doesn't make any sense. It seemed cool. But like the ending, you're like, what actually happened? Yeah. That coupled with the fact that I just love that idea of that tweet.
Starting point is 01:11:59 I'm like, I gotta watch this shit now. Skylar Higley tweeted, I mainly want to be on SNL for the part where everybody hugs at the end. That seems really nice. And then Andy Field tweeted, tearfully waving out the train window as my girlfriend runs alongside. 45 minutes later, she's still keeping pace. It's inhuman.
Starting point is 01:12:20 Everyone on the train is screaming. I'm begging her to stop, but she can't hear me. Her eyes are pure white. Police helicopter circle overhead. Wait, she said her eyes are pure white with what? Her eyes are pure white. Police helicopter circle overhead. What a rise.
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Starting point is 01:13:10 Sexual Healing, but just with some laid back, like South American vibes. You know, I like when people can mash up a track and it kind of, they can pull it off. So this is Sexual Healing, but the Studio Rio version by Marvin Gaye and Studio Rio. So, you know, get
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