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Episode Date: February 1, 2024

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I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry.

Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour.

If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 323, episode four of Dare Daily's iGeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness, and it is Thursday, February 1st, 2024. It's Black History Month. this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and it is thursday

february 1st 2024 it's black history month black history made it through yeah made it through january and guess what else it is it's a little interesting because it's black history month i'm like sort of looking at some of these days it's also national dark chocolate day i'm like this what's the chocolate lobby trying to do right now? It's also National Freedom Day. I get that. Also, National Get Up Day. And not like in a James Brown kind of way. It's a picture of someone who's a figure skater who's fallen.

And I think it's just about dusting yourself off and getting back up. It's also Optimist Day. It's National Texas Day. It's National Serpent Day. So you got a little bit of everything. Okay. Well, happy those days to all of you. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a.

Elmo gonna knock bird out. Elmo say knock you out. Or I guess you could do it as Elmo if you had a good Elmo. I do not, but Miles does. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray! Miles Gray, a. Elmo. I do not, but Miles does. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray!

Miles Gray, a.k.a. Elmo. He would lose in a fight, I said, Big Bird. He don't need a fucking knife, I said, Rocco. Big Bird, defend this rock. Let's put money on this

brawl. Sesame Street this rock let's put money on this bra all sesame street fight club big bird elmo sesame street fight club elmo big bird yeah wet t-shirt contest or not for watching you die you can battle this puppet my guy okay shout out to uh eiegerful1229 because, again, all the trauma dumping on Elmo really brought us to a much more in-depth debate about can Big Bird beat up? Who would win in just a no-holds-barred death match? With Big Bird triumph over Elmo, does Elmo fight dirty? And that's how Elmo triumphs.

And we spent not even enough time really trying to get to the bottom of that question. I mean, Elmo came through. Big Bird was trying to do something on social media. He had like five days where he was no longer big. He was the size of an insect. He was picking up some traction. And then Elmo comes through and is just like, hey, how's everyone doing? And like the Internet breaks. Everyone's just like, hey, how's everyone doing? And the internet breaks.

Everyone's just like, oh, no. So I think this fight is not far off because that had to have been humiliating for Big Bird. Yeah, the engagement. The engagement for Elmo after Big Bird put in so much work to metamorphosis himself. Yeah, yeah. Kafka style. Yeah. Kafka style.

Also, Willie K. That was my AKA. Courtesy of Willie K on the Discord. Anyways, we are thrilled, blessed to be joined once again in our third seat by an Emmy-nominated writer, a New York

Times best-selling author, podcast host, one of the best stand-up comics doing it anywhere. It's Laurie Kilmartin! Laurie! Oh, my God. I'm so excited. Thanks for having me back, guys. Oh, my God.

Thanks for returning. It's been too long. May 29th, 2018 was the last time we were engaged in conversation. Wasn't I on a rooftop? Am I remembering that correctly? Yes in hollywood and we took a just an iconic photo together iconic it's just the things we were talking about just so you know this is this these were the things we were talking about that episode the cancellation of rosanne okay um wow ted cruz doesn't seem that long ago yeah oh the ted cruz sports curse we came back

around on that one cursing the houston rockets oh wow we just talked about that again yeah rudy giuliani being booed on his birthday at a yankees game and just grim facts about hurricane maria in puerto rico so yeah this is and and the new welcome back yeah welcome thank you more more rudy news apparently in the last year he made eighteen thousand dollars that was how much he earned that was that's what he net that's what he met because i feel like he was probably underwater a little bit didn't get sued for like a hundred million dollars i think that info was part of like the revelations you know like like how he's going to, he's going to have to sell some stuff, obviously pieces of the towers. I'm sure that he kept

coming home with pockets full of rubble every day. He's wearing cargo pants to the pile and just putting stuff in. That man looks strange in shorts. I will say that. He should not be wearing cargo pants. Truly, truly, truly. And you got the special Sis Woke Grief Slut, too. I do. I have a new special that dropped on Tuesday, the 30th.

Yeah. Yeah, it's called Sis Woke Grief Slut yeah yeah it's called siswa grief slut grief slut and uh it's available on my website lauriekilmartin.com on all platforms comedy dynamic pushed it out to you know like when you do one of those specials you sort of do a lot of promo ads afterwards and and it was like apple tv amazon plus and then i was like samsung tv plus and then I was like Samsung TV plus and then it just got into like minor appliances and a fork. But any place you can stream something, you could probably catch it. Watch this on your LG washing machine. Yes. I watched it on my refrigerator. It was good.

The tiny little screen that tells you when it's time to buy new eggs and also you can watch Lori's special. Wait, is that a thing? It'll tell you when to buy new eggs and also you can watch Lori's special. Wait, is that a thing? It'll tell you when to buy new eggs? I think that's one of the promises of the smart refrigerator is that it will like remind you to order new shit. Oh, okay. Right. What did you think I meant? I don't know.

Like it had some kind of egg sensor technology. Like, hey, hey, hey, hey, these eggs, these eggs, man. Get on it. Getting laid on eggs brother yeah if you put your maybe if you put your them in the egg place i don't know anyone that does that actually i just you know put them in there and then the egg place i leave change or my keys or whatever that shit's full of ketchup packets my end butter packets so in case we ever run out of butter, you know. Yeah.

Oh, just foil-wrapped pads of butter. Foil-wrapped pads of butter, man. You're like, every time you're on a plane, you're like, hey, hey, keep that. Put that on your back. Ask for a couple more. It's the currency of the future. Yeah. Yes.

You're right. They're shiny. Look how shiny they are. Lori, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about today it's this is this is hard to take okay there's a couple stories up top that are hard to take it's not just rudy who's struggling elon musk was was due for a $55 billion payday. That was a $55 billion compensation package designed by, let me read this, Elon Musk. Elon Musk designed his own.

That was the entire board? Yeah, that was it. And a judge just reached out and was like, that seems like a lot, guys. Maybe we should rethink this, which kind of gets me excited for a future where judges are on the ground with the rest of us just looking up and being like,

that seems like too much, maybe. Yeah, no, flag on the play on this. How much did you pay yourself? What the fuck? You paid yourself $55 billion? Anyways, we're going to talk about that. We're also going to talk about, in more, you hate to see it, don't we, folks? News, Kristen Sinema is having trouble fundraising for her latest campaign.

So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about the Zinsurrection, the nicotine delivery pouches that are not tobacco. They're just like little powdered nicotine. Yeah, but kicking off a new culture war. Yeah. The latest front in the culture war somehow. We'll talk about the world's largest cruise ship, which is now prowling the oceans deep right now.

It's been described as a monstrosity and human lasagna. So all of that, plenty more. But first, Lori, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? Oh, I guess right now I'm very obsessed with what's happening in the royal family and Kate Middleton. I don't know if you guys have been,

she's in my search history. I look for Kate Middleton, I don't know if you guys have been, she's in my search history. I look for Kate Middleton constantly right now. As do actual people looking for the actual Kate Middleton. Wait, did she have some kind of medical procedure? I feel like the last headline was like, King Charles and now Kate are in hospital. And I'm like, what? In hospital. If you like conspiracy theories,

you got to go down this rabbit hole. On December 28th, no one's seen her since Christmas. Okay. December 28th, there was massive ambulances leaving the area where Kensington Palace is, where she lives, right? Okay.

And then a couple weeks later, she was announced as being in the hospital for a planned surgery that was so planned that they had to they had to cancel a bunch of things that she had scheduled oh no and they think prince charles announced his surgery to deflect from from like the sense of what what's what happened to kate the theories are uh are Prince William is an abuser and he attacked her and she's hospitalized for that. Or she had a break. She had a breakdown. She has an eating disorder slash breakdown, or he filed for divorce and she had a break and she just left because the whole time she was in the hospital, none of her family visited her. And he went to see her once for 15 minutes, Prince William.

And the kids, her mom, nobody. It's so strange. And they won't announce what's, yeah. So, and their explanation doesn't really make any sense. And now they're like, well, she'll be out till past Easter, which I don't know. She'll just be in the hospital till Easter? No, now she's recuperating at home. But the press that counts everybody all the time somehow missed it.

She'll be out of the public eye. Yes. So it's a real weird, weird situation over there. And nobody, it's like the tabloids in Britain are not presenting it that way. It's because they suck up so much to the royal family. They're part of this ecosystem. Yes. So it's all like outsiders, you know, Americans and a few people in Britain.

Yeah, exactly. The Dumois segment on the past couple episodes. The royal tea has been served. I don't know what abdominal surgery means to you, but. Oh, I'm, I'm obsessed.

I'm dying to know what's going on over there. What do you think in your heart of hearts? What, what do you think is going on? She is super thin. And here's the thing. She's not likable either because she's seems to have been really mean to Meghan Markle and slightly racist,

at least asking about the skin color of Prince Archie. So she's not likable. But I would guess that she has an eating disorder. And maybe the abdominal surgery has something to do with that. The other thing is there's lots of photographs of her with her fingers covered in bandages. And as a former bulimic, those are the ones you stick down. And sometimes you, you do have cuts on them. Oh my God. So that's my guess about Kate Middleton is she, uh, is getting treatment for an eating disorder. She may have collapsed from just weakness or something. I don't

know. Yeah. I mean the Shelly Miscavige version is also intriguing too, where they're like, and she was disappeared. have a great reference question mark written in my notes here two miles oh really yeah wow whenever yeah like someone the like a spouse of someone very powerful prominent just disappears dark suddenly i'm like shelly miscavige shelly miscavige no like i feel like sometimes it's like maybe the person just wants to be out of the public eye and we should grant them that. In this case, it's just weird that her family's not coming to visit. Yeah, her mother, her sister, none of the kids.

That feels like a mental breakdown. None of the kids is fucked up. That's cruelty to not have your kids visit you while you're in the hospital like that's yeah that that's a part of health care would be like being able to be around your kids you know yeah so if they if they they don't want the kids to see her in whatever state she's in or they're trying to just separate the kids from her you know there's again there's so many little paths you can go down damn people people in certain twitter circles that i follow or post there you know there's a lot of positioning of

prince william as a single dad now and it's like they're trying to get the public used to the fact that she's not gonna be part of it anymore and so right wow yeah it's weird because the kids the the crown owns the kids, you know? Like, once she has the kids, she's. Like, you can't go to court for that. Yeah. Yeah. So they can go. They don't have last names, miss.

First of all. So how the fuck do you think you can say they're yours? Yeah. Wow. That shit is. Wow. She does. She does not have the same rights with her kids that i do with my

kid right which is really weird you know that's got to be yeah that's grim too because like yeah princess diana right also like what had trouble with eating disorders with and like with in her time ascending to being in the royal family and all the stress that comes along with that's the thing it's like there's so much dark shit going on with the royal family, too, that it feels like it could be anything. Like, honestly, they may have traded her, like, with aliens for some technology or some shit and be like, yeah, I don't know, man. Like, they wanted an infinite fuel source that they traded aliens for.

They were big fans, I guess. Give us your princess. Yeah. What is something you think is overrated? Right now I'm going to say yoga is overrated because I've been doing it a long time and I'm still really tight in my hips and I do everything I'm supposed to do. And I'm a little annoyed. Like, when does this, when does this change? Is there, is there a specific, like, is someone selling you sham yoga and just kind of

being like, yeah, and that's yoga, Lori. Um, I'll be back next week. Um, and we'll just continue these non-yoga exercises. Like the teachers always, as you're doing the poses, they promise, you know, this does this, this does this. And I do like hot yoga and, uh, and, uh, I haven't improved on any of my poses in years, no matter how hard I try. And it's really the hip tightness. And I feel like I've been duped, but I'm also addicted. So I won't end. I'll just be unsatisfied.

I have a friend who is a yoga teacher, has been on the cover of yoga magazines, is like really like a yoga influencer and has had to have hip surgery like multiple times because yoga is like really fucking hard on the hips i guess like it's really those are and those are yoga yoga based injuries yeah yeah wow hip surgery the surgeon's like man you gotta quit the to quit the yoga, man. Right. You got to knock it off with the yoga. Is it possible my hips are trying to save me? Yeah, your hips might be being like, get us the fuck out of this hot room. Right.

Go sit down on a chair. Try Pilates. Yeah, yeah. They're like, yeah, reformer will work wonders. They're like, but the hips are telling you like, Lori, we're, this is it for us. We're at where we're at. So let's not, let's not go any further. Standing bow is not for you. So stop trying.

Yo, that's interesting. I didn't realize that. I wonder if you could seek damages like that. We like, you know, I've been doing yoga for years. Look at my range of motion is not improved. I feel like I should get some money back on some level. I feel like yoga teachers only have yoga

clothes to offer. I would just get some old shorts. Used yoga mats. And some blocks. I got some new blocks. They're still in the packaging, so that's got to be worth $30. I was just talking to my friend bucks? Yeah. A couple stacks.

Yeah, I was just talking to my friend about how inflexible I am. And there's part of me that's like, this is when you're supposed to start stretching and really get flexible or else I'm going to be injured. But I just can't get myself to do that because the results just aren't, I don't know. You should try. The results are not getting injured. Yeah. Well, but also too, you will, it, it does like it, it, it sort of reverberates to your body.

Yeah. All tight. yeah all tight and doing that has relieved like some tightness here and there so i i don't know look into mobility man it's about the mobility too man you got to keep those keep those joints i'm very mobile i walk a lot i just can't bend my knees. Yeah. So I just walk. It's like walking on stilts. Yeah. My kid's the same way. He can't touch his toes without bending his knees. And he's only 17. I do.

I do feel like flexibility is like something you are born with. Or maybe if you do gymnastics when you're eight. Yeah. You know, really hardcore. Maybe you'll keep it, but it's hard to get more. Yeah.

I mean, plus I've got these really strong hammies, you know, that are just like quaking with energy at all times. Yeah. Now I was going to say, Miles is somebody who can like pull his foot over his head. So it's rich for him to be like, oh yeah, man. He's trying to be more flexible, dude.

Hold on, dude. Sorry. I saw someone on the bottom of my foot. I just want to check it. Okay, never mind. Oh, my God. All right. It's all good.

He didn't even wince. Yeah, yeah. It is what it is. Yeah, you should try it, man. Yeah, go ahead. Let's see what you got, dude. It is what it is. You don't read the sole of your foot like a palm reading?

Just to check in like I do? you don't read your own you don't read the soul of your foot like a palm reading did you when you were a kid did you do like a stretchy kind of sport no no i played i played ice hockey for that's like the sport i played the most as a kid so nothing like but i always i just remember like my cousins doing it when i was like four years three or four years old and i was like let me see if I can do that. And that shit just went. And yeah. And then ever since then, it's but then like in like my mom would always just be like kids bodies are just flexible. Kids bodies are just flexible.

But she's also really flexible, too. Like my mom can also get I think she could bite her own toenails if she wanted to. So that's that's really the mark. Can you bite your own toenails? And why would you not want to? Yeah, exactly. Test how strong those teeth are. Laurie, what's something you think is underrated?

I guess, well, if I'm going to go sports-wise, I'd say swimming is underrated. You know, as an Olympic sport, synchronized swimming is underrated. Yeah. It's absolutely my favorite thing. It's so beautiful and difficult. And anytime you post a clip, someone posts the clip of Martin Short and Harry Shearer from SNL.

And it's like, guys, can these athletes just do one Olympic without having to see that clip, please? It is. I mean, it's iconic. But it's one of those things that i remember you the second you try that's when you have respect for synchronized swimmers because you're like oh okay what they're doing under okay i can stay inverted underwater and then you're you're like fucking flailing because you can't do like those like micro balance paddles that they do like their hands and yeah respect not only that, but they all have to do them exactly the same.

So, you know, there'll be eight of them and their hands are right next to each other and they can't mess up and their legs have to stay, their feet have to, you know, meet at the top. You can't have one foot, you know, one person's feet higher than the other. So, it's so hard, the team version

of it, you know, just the individual stuff on its own is really difficult too but man is there individual like what is it water dancing no it used to be like synchronized with the music that's what they that's what they meant but like oh right got it no i mean like individually learning to do all those skills and then there's eight of you together yeah learning to do it so that it, you're all, you're all, you're as one.

Right, right, right. Holy shit. There's eight of them. There, I think, like if they're getting lost in powers, I'm trying to remember,

it seems like at least six to eight on the, in the team. Wow. The team part. That's unbelievable. Yeah. Yeah. That shit might as well be like a magic trick to me i'm just like

there's something i don't understand because that is looks completely impossible to me yeah it is really impressive synchronized diving yeah that was yeah pretty fun that's like very meditative to just like watch people yeah do that over and over again i got into like the last olympics i would just like sit there and watch that for like an hour straight. Yeah. That's very cool looking. I love when they let these little sneaky sports in the Olympics, you know? Yeah. Somebody made up four years ago. Someone did by accident when they did it at the same time as your friend. Yeah. It got invented like when somebody was trying to break a guinness book of world records just like trying to like i don't know maybe most dives together yeah

i mean because what in 2028 or isn't we're gonna have flag football aren't we in the la olympics so is that right yeah flag football yeah it's out there so and everyone's like america you better clean the fuck up i mean that's what kids are playing these days i feel like like young kids aren't playing like pop warner football at least not not the ones who grow up in new york city like i have nephews who who just play like flag football that's the version of football that they play yeah why not which makes sense to me a lot of cautionary tales out there for banging your fucking skull over and over and you know turns out yeah not being able to like navigate your own neighborhood did you ever see that that one that like ct documentary there's like the one soccer player this woman who just headed the ball so many times like it effect like she needed like

gps to get around her town because it was just like affecting so many things like that and that's when i was like wow wow wow wow i read about her but i didn't i didn't know that documentary that's terrible is that ever gonna get better or is she just permanently i'm not she did not feel hopeful uh it was sort of like it was it was sort of covering like all kinds of sort of context it was just like a it was sort of showing many different contact sports athletes and just sort of the varying degrees in which like these like repetitive head impacts kind of like were affecting people because it doesn't seem like an across the board thing with heading the soccer ball at least i'm not i didn't know about that but that was like the first time i saw it i was like that

makes sense yeah hey he got his bell rung you know what i'm saying yeah that, but that was the first time I saw it. I was like, that makes sense. Yeah. He got his bell rung. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, exactly. That's all. He just got his bell rung. Get back up there, man. Back up there, man.

This kid can take a lick and keep on ticking. Those stars you're seeing, that's your future, kid, when you're a superstar. Lean into it. Lean into it. Oh, man. That's so brutal. Yeah. By the way, I can't navigate my neighborhood without GPS, but that's another story.

We'll talk about that another time. Maybe I need a documentary crew following me around. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview

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But people are pointing out this leaves a large chunk of his fortune hanging in limbo. Yeah. Oof. Buddy. Oh, man. Yeah. Is that why he tweeted, don't incorporate in Delaware? And I didn't know that's that's probably why. But I mean, the reason he incorporated in Delaware, that's why all the credit card companies there, they have barely they're very corporate friendly. So he must have been quite shocked that a judge wasn't. I mean, I guess it's because it's a publicly traded company tesla right so yeah and also it's a flagrant abuse of oh it's crazy money yeah if you can't get away with that shit in delaware if there's a financial crime you can't get away

with in delaware man like yeah it's bad you're fucking up bud that's like monaco going come on that's a bit much they're like have some common sense yeah really that much like yeah the concept of having too much dip on your chip i do not see that happening there it's funny because like i was reading like barons and other financial news to just see what like their take is and one of them just says it wasn't this from baron said quote it wasn't clear what options Tesla or Musk might have in terms of pursuing an appeal. Oh, good. So they have to like, it says, yeah, they would need to create a new comp package for Musk that can supersede this looking ahead and lock Musk in for Tesla through 2030. I mean, that's just more stuff that I don't understand.

But the judge, it's interesting how the judge was just like, y'all, like, what are you guys doing here? Yeah. I mean, this, like, something's going to have to give at some point. Like, we can't just let the richest people in the world keep getting paying themselves more and more money. So I was not aware of this as an option of a judge just being like, no. Well, it's because someone had to sue. A shareholder had to sue for that to happen.

no. Well, it's because someone had to sue. A shareholder had to sue for that to happen. But maybe this will cause other shareholders to sue and inject a small sliver of sanity into the financial system that we're living under. His

defense of the payday is, and this is truly wild. I've heard people say that he's doing this like space thing as a grift to like distract from just how much he's robbing everybody of money but he literally said it's a way to get humanity to mars when describing his 55 billion dollar payday oh my god so just like straight up That's that's a thing only he wants. I don't know anyone who wants to go to Mars. Right.

You know, and many of you guys do either. No, not at all. I mean, we even saw what happened to people who want to go see the fucking Titanic. I'm like, no, we're good here. I'm fine here. Just toiling on terra firma, okay? Yes. And it's just like also interesting because like the way he said it too is like he followed up the way to get to humanity to Mars line with,

so Tesla can assist in potentially achieving that. Like as if, oh, I'm sorry, Elon. Right. Okay. Oh, we're good here then. Yeah. The criticisms from this judge, it said, Judge McCormick criticized the board's quote, Oh, we're good here then. accurately described key directors as independent and misleadingly omitted details about the process in which it's just like Elon being like, just help me out.

So was it like May Musk and Kimbrough Musk? Yeah. His family. Yeah. I mean, he's doing financial crimes, but all these people are doing financial crimes all the time to like pay themselves billions of dollars. So,

I mean, at times I've been like, I don't know, like could a judge who like knows how much a banana costs down here, like with the rest of us, who's like been grocery shopping in the past 10 years, like, could they reach out and just be like, all right,

after 15 billion, like, can we say that's enough? You're right. You have more money than you'll ever be able to, you know, like some legal ruling. It seems like for now it's just going to be like when they flagrantly try to do just pay themselves the entire GDP of a small European nation in one. Yeah. Like in one check, they're going to be like, I don't think we can do that. And I don't know.

I mean, Tesla, how do they have that much money? Is that money borrowed from a bank? Like, are they making that much of a profit? They seem to be, you know, collapsing and being recalled all the time. Yeah. I don't get it. I mean, they are selling cars, you know, and the time. Yeah. I don't get it. It's, I mean, like, I mean, they are selling cars, you know, and I think, but apparently that package would have fluctuated

based on the stock price, apparently, but this is all based off the company's valuation as well. But it's interesting to see that the people that are defending it and be like, no, Elon should get that, like, sort of the line there is that it basically keeps him focused. It's like incentivizing him to focus on Tesla rather than all this other shit. Which is so wild. You're like,

that's the dumbest excuse I've ever heard. It's like, well, we gotta pay him this much or else he's gonna have his head literally in the fucking clouds trying to get to Mars or fucking up X or whatever the fuck. It's like an enabling parent whose son is on drugs trying to like we gotta get him like we're gonna give him a bunch of money for getting a

a in math and that'll keep us keep him straight he just told you he'd use that money on drugs the drugs actually help me keep my head straight. So, yeah. So this, I mean, this is, you could potentially, mom and dad, you could potentially help achieve my goal of being fucking high as fuck all the time slash going to Mars. I'm just struck that there's still bros that support him as much as they did before he took over Twitter. You know, it's been such a, such a mess. You know, it's been such a such a mess a fucking shit coin but yeah i mean it's like i think it's also he sort of serves as like this aspirational place to go as like a mediocre white guy and like with enough i mean if your dad owns an emerald mine then the sky's the fucking limit but i think for many other people that gets edited out of the story when people yeah exactly we're like he just did it on his own despite

this his father's dynastic wealth but i think that's the other thing is like you see these guys excuse it all the time it's like yeah but he's like trying to do this like people just hate her and i think you know we're in an era where people just worship these sort of like fucking they think he's like Iron Man from the Marvel movies. And yeah, yeah, man, dude, he's fucking, he's got it. This is the level shit. The problem with America is everyone thinks they're just one lottery ticket away from being that, you know? And so they're like, well, I don't want, I don't want those taxes.

I don't want him to be taxed because what if I become a billionaire? I'd want to be, have more than $15 billion. Okay. Here's a quick test for you, aspirational billionaire. And if you don't answer yes to the first question, the answer is you are not going to be a billionaire. Question number one, do your parents have $500,000 in liquid assets they can just give you to start a little project. No? Okay. Your odds just went down to fucking... Yeah. Very

low. Lower than snake titties. As James Carmel would say. That's what the chances are. Lower than snake nipples. Is your day the snake or is day the serpent? Is that what you said? Lower than that serpent's npent. Lower than that. Serpent's nipples.

Lower than that. It ain't going to happen to you, boy. The more formal Serpent's nipples. Yeah, exactly. Lower than the medical term. All right. And then also sad news for Kristen Sinema. I mean, she's not out, but she is down at the moment. She raised

$595,000 in the final three months of 2023, which sounds like a lot of money to me. It is less than one fifth of the total that her main Democratic challenger, Representative Ruben Gallego, said his campaign raised during that same period. If like for an incumbent to get like destroyed by five, five X, like with a challenger is pretty, pretty bad. Yeah. Well, she put all she put all of her effort into guaranteeing that everyone would absolutely be like, get out of my face. You absolute disgrace. Except for corporations. Yeah, well, the second she left the Democratic Party,

like, come on, what did you expect? You know what I mean? Like, you're an independent now, so of course all the donors that put you on your way to the Senate the first time, they're just getting behind Gallego. What was the strategy? What was your plan yeah dumb dumb

I don't know all these like corporations and like rich people who are really nice to me all the time like they probably will help me stay in power I mean if she is not reelected she gets escorted to the you know boards

of these places you know what i mean like they take care of each other afterwards so yeah that's right yeah yeah so i mean probably smart in the long run but it looks bad for her political aspirations and smart like in a very self-serving way destroying the world yeah yeah a serpent move some might say. A serpentine move. Absolutely. Because, yeah, I think now with the way that race is shaking up, she's trying to tack to the right kind of because the problem is with Carrie Lake. If you remember the bizarro gubernatorial candidate who refused to be like, it was stolen from me and annoyed everyone also yeah like the republicans on that side of the race are like attacking cinema to be like she voted for 94 percent of the biden agenda which is true it's like she just she just dug her heels in for certain things that completely watered down a lot of bills um and a lot of people remember her for that so i

think because recently she for the first time voted against a judicial pick that uh biden put forward wow and everyone's like what the fuck like you've been 100 on those and then suddenly this like black magistrate judge she was just like no i guess not and was like thinking like maybe that will change my percentages a little bit maybe to 92%. So people will see me as a quote independent, but yeah, she's, she serves herself so she can see herself out the door. Does not seem to be going according to plan because during that same period, she spent way more than she raised. So raised 595,000 spent 749,000, including hundreds of thousands on fundraising, consulting, and digital advertising. And probably cute outfits.

I mean, she does dress in a fun way. Yes. I think that led everyone to think she'd be cool. She was cool. Yeah. Also, only $7,700 on paying campaign staff. Oh, my God. What?

I mean, she's trying to raise money. Did you remember there was like that story at the beginning of last year about how she was like selling her clothes on Facebook Marketplace? Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's fun. She's got a few different gigs, you know. She's got some stuff in the air. She's got some irons in the fire.

So don't worry about her. She does still have nearly $11 million in her campaign account. So she's probably going to be okay, unfortunately. Unless she decides to keep it, right? Could she figure out a way to keep it? If she decides, I'm not going to win anyway. And why put up with this? Isn't there?

I mean, it's a violation, but there's probably legal ways to keep that money. Yeah, but it's not that easy when it's all in a campaign account. So she'd have to be engaged in a campaign to be able to get through a lot of it. And that's when people are like, I need it for my clothing. I need it for this. And then, sure, there'll be some ethics violations going up. But what's an ethics violation these days? Yeah.

Or Donald Trump gets elected president, makes everything legal. It's just like the purge, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. All right. The Zinsurrection is upon us. Yeah. As somebody who used to be addicted to nicotine, I have dabbled with Zin in the past. You know about that pure nicotina pouch huh i do know about yeah it's not i did not find it very satisfying well it's it's a tobacco free just all nicotine pouch you know they can just pack right there on your lip yeah and apparently it's like one of the fastest grow like one of the faster growing nicotine products in terms of popularity and it seems to be attracting more and more younger users and there's like an entire subculture of like video reviews or like fucking this term

zinfluencers yes that kids are being exposed to on tiktok and that concerned senator chuck schumer and he basically made a statement calling on the fda and ftc to just like you want to look into this like maybe we need some more oversight in products like this FTC to just like, you want to look into this? Like maybe we need some more oversight in products like this. If kids are just like seeing this stuff and like watching videos of a dude being like, how many fucking Zen bombs can I pack in my mouth, dude? It won't go. And you know, like, just like maybe there's something going on. And that just that statement about being like, can we look into this product that like young kids are kind of minors are getting into just set off a

bunch of just a right wing scream fest uh the term zinsurrection i wish i had coined that that was actually marjorie taylor green who said that she said wow this calls for a zinsurrection and then like other people are saying she's talking about just because democrats want to legalize all drugs uh representative richard hudson said that quote big brother schumer doesn't want us to chew or smoke uh john fetterman yeah john fetterman who's recently you know shown his independent streak um or his you know when he's not cosplaying as apac shakur basically said tobacco is legal and he's got more of like a freedom aspect about you know like increased oversight he's the male cinema yeah on like on there's like a nicotine subreddit where some some dude like a highly upvoted post was

like dude if they get if they fucking try and take this in i'll make january 6th look like a tea party which i think was a bit hyper hyperbolic but still a lot of people were like dude they better not man they better not people get mad when you fuck with their nicotine you know like it's a so i could i could see there being just a lot of very pathetic insurrections happening just like the the just most depressing temper tantrums you've ever seen well because you even see like how the tobacco lobby like they deploy like these astroturf like smokers rights groups like back in the day and like these like people to sort of create these outrage campaigns like on behalf of the industry. And clearly, many of these people are open to donations from that industry. So, of course, they're going to be up here and be like, it's what the fuck's going on with this and like the research in terms of what nicotine only products do is

pretty slim because most of our understanding with nicotine is like through tobacco products so this is like a tobacco free nicotine product which is i think created this sort of like sort of gray area where people can claim all kinds of shit because it's just nicotine because like peter teal has said that using nicotine patches will raise your iq 10 fucking points he's like i don't think that's true oh well also iq tests are pretty problematic but well i'm probably talking to the wrong guy peter teal aren't yeah it's you know it's like a stimulant so you can see how that might create like you know kind of get your your head going this other guy who works for the communications director for the state freedom caucus network just a bunch of just right-wing nonsense network said quote it gets

the creative juices flowing during the day when i'm working and shit posting and whatnot but i think tucker carlson seems to be the biggest zinfluencer when it comes to the right's love of nicotine because like we've heard him say this like all the time he's always talked up nicotine as like this wonder thing and he was recently dude he was recently on the full send podcast actually about 10 months ago talking about his love for zins and just i just want you to listen to the way this guy is like preaching the fucking Zen gospel in this interview. This is Tucker Carlson. Don't get me going.

So I use it, you know, every second I'm awake and in bed, I'm not embarrassed of it. Sleep with one in or no, I don't cause I don't want to choke on it. But seconds I read in bed. So seconds before I fall asleep,

I take it out. I've never had one of my dogs eat a Zen pouch, though. I'm not against it. What? Cause I think they would like it, but I'm not embarrassed of it at all i can't answer your question what i find so interesting back to my and i don't want to like reveal myself as a crackpot on your show no no but i think the hostility to nicotine is really telling i mean obviously cigarette smoking can

be bad for you it's not bad for everybody but it over time it can hurt cigarette smoking can be bad for you. It's not bad for everybody, but over time it can hurt you for sure. Cigarette smoking's not bad for everyone. If your loved ones die from it. Except his loved ones that died from it. Nicotine is not a carcinogen, actually. There are all kinds of medical benefits of it, which are documented. Buckle up. It increases mental acuity, raises your testosterone level.

It may be a prophylactic against Alzheimer's and Parkinson's. And the cut to Full Send Podcast. Full Send Podcast we don't want to we want to get dinged for medical misinformation here yeah so you hear that shit libs it will protect you from alzheimer's and parkinson's yeah sleep stimulants are good for you and being addicted to a thing is good for you. And being addicted to a thing is good for you. It's good for your mental health, your spiritual health. It's good. You're going to be a better person when you're addicted to this product.

It doesn't look like it's making him exercise, though. No, he's gotten very puffy. I want to stimulate something that gets me on a treadmill a little bit. But also there's such shortages of Ritalin and ADD and ADHD drugs that, I mean, some people have to turn to something, right? Is this a viable replacement for someone? You know what? You should have probably right there, the lobby is talking points there

because I haven't heard anyone be like, and with the dang ADHD shortage, what else are we supposed to have our nation's students use to stay focused so they can achieve their dreams? Sorry, guys. I just got $100 for saying that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Your price is way too low. Wait.

Lori just changed her display name on Twitter. You're Lori Kilmartzin? Okay. Very interesting, but it's just but weird coincidence i will say i was addicted to like smoking cessation nicotine delivery things for like a decade basically recently got off them i have to say i'm much better i feel like i'm much healthier and happier without them but i was i was definitely like somebody who like had nicotine gum in a lot of the time like right the the tucker carlson in a way yeah it's a little like coffee it actually calmed me

down like i i would do it before bed like tucker uh i get most of my health regimens from tucker carlson but yeah no i i would do it to relax because i do i yeah i think there's like some add stuff in there. Right. Well, the fact that you said it actually calms me down. I was like, yeah, noted. Stimulants calm me down. And that's why I've been such an asshole for the past year.

It's just interesting because this is just part of like the culture war battle to like sort of paint the left or Democrats is like wanting to legalize all drugs, but nicotine bad. And they also have like this like really idealized view of like that it like coincided with like this American air, like this great era of American innovation. When like all the great inventors were fucking chaining it up, man. Like, look what happened to us. We're fucking chicken shit now. It's because we don't smoke cigarettes. Yeah, it's that easy. It's the fucking cigarettes that may have contributed to the waning of the innovation here.

But yeah, like it should be noted that Schumer wasn't talking about banning them. Just increased scrutiny since parents are noticing their kids are talking about it more and just catching their kids with this shit so it's just sort of more of a continuation of like the vaping tug-of-war that we saw like when jewels were like all the kids were doing jewels and shit they're like the flavors are too much like candy that appeals to kids and it's just more like yeah they also these things have flavors too and they're just saying maybe maybe some oversight there but yeah, it's almost like,

look, if kids, 14 year olds can work in a meatpacking factory and shoot an AK 47, they should be allowed to have a nicotine patch, right? Or some sort of, that's their argument. Maybe, maybe like this because smoking cessation,

things like things that are, are just nicotine, like nicotine patches. And like, there are like little pellets, like they're so expensive compared to the things that actually have tobacco in them. They're like crazy expensive. So that seems to be like what Zinn, the innovation that Zinn has offered is that it's like a non-tobacco nicotine delivery system that is not like $70 for a couple of days worth. So yeah. So yeah, let kids have nicotine patches.

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it's the future, man. No. Yeah. I wonder if that was an ad. Yeah. I mean, if you want to, let me play it because it's pretty aggressive.

Anyway, so a boy that one of my daughters was dating New Year's 2020 was at my house and he pulls this out i'm like what is that he goes it's the future it's the future it's a non-tobacco nicotine delivery device where you get all the whole grain goodness of nicotine but none of the downside like that's that's like a fucking ad word for word too too. Yeah, absolutely. It's a nicotine. It's a tobacco-free nicotine delivery device. It's like, did that kid work for Zinn? My daughter only dates corporate lobbyists.

Right. I told my daughter, you can either bring gun lobbyists or tobacco lobbyists into this home. I don't want to fucking hear anything else. What did you say? We drove to 7-Eleven, and I stocked up. I got all the different flavors, coffee. They have a lot of intriguing flavors, I would say. But I stuck with Spearmint

and it's been a massive life enhancer. I'd really recommend it to you. This is making me want to do it, too. I know, me too. A life enhancer, Tucker? Give me some of that. Yum, yum. All right.

Well, speaking of the future, we have seen the future. It is the world's largest cruise ship. The icon of the seas. Behold. Embarked on its first commercial voyage this weekend. Longer than the Eiffel Tower is tall. Features 20 decks, a water park, indoor waterfall, bowling alley, and the ever-present sense that humanity is completely doomed. Yeah.

Wow. All that. I mean, how many murders can be committed on that thing, right? Exactly. You get out to international waters, 20 different decks to push someone off. Laurie, you're so right because so we're like the the big thing that people are pointing out is that obviously well first of all it just looks like if you've ever seen a picture of it somebody said it was probably

look like human lasagna to the orcas but it's just it gives me anxiety to look at it like i like it looks like it would be absolutely fucking groaning to stay upright in the water and like the the president of royal caribbean is like this biggest baddest ship on the planet i'm like don't don't sound like a fucking five-year-old bragging about your dad's new car like yeah just be responsible with whatever this horrifying science is that makes this possible but it's it's a huge polluter obviously like it's you know the amount of fuel that's needed so they the way they got around that is they advertise that it uses this environmentally friendly fuel liquefied natural gas, LNG. And it's the cleanest burning marine fuel, which it turns out is absolutely not true.

It actually ultimately emits 70 to 80 percent more greenhouse gas emissions per trip than if it used regular marine fuel. It just like takes away one kind of emission and like blasts out a whole bunch of well yeah that's the thing you you missed you missed the real part jack is that it cuts down co2 by a quarter and then methane emissions go up by like 100 like 70 80 i don't know something like that but look we're focused on co2 man that's the thing we're talking about carbon man carbon yeah it's it's really it's uh it's just we love a bit of greenwashing yeah folks but so we're talking about carbon man carbon yeah it's it's really it's uh it's just we love a bit of greenwashing yeah folks but so we're looking at this story and like there there's an ngo that's filed complaints in the uk about like them breaching advertising rules by advertising

it this way and our writer jam is pointing out but like not nothing's going to happen in the current system because they spend so much on lobbying and the stuff that they lobby. They spend millions each year on lobbyists. Last year, they spent four million dollars. And the things that they lobby over include issues ranging from sanitation and health laws to, quote, crime reporting. They straight up lobby to not have to report crimes. Wow. So first of all,

sanitation and health laws. I don't know. I don't want you to be in. I don't want the people making the money to be in control of like the sanitation and health laws. That's just what they're dumping into the sea. Right. Or is it,

or even on board? I think it's like what they're dumping into the sea right or is it or even on board what they're keeping i think it's like what they're allowed to do like make us in general inside of yeah oh god like it's not our fault if you get cholera and scarlet fever and die from diarrhea during the course of the vacation on our ship remember like at when at the onset of covid there were, all those horror stories about people stuck on cruise ships and how they just turned into, like, these Petri dishes. So I'm sure part of that lobbying is like, man, don't make us have to, like, end one of our money-making journeys because, like, 50% of the passengers have COVID or something like that. Right, right. But by crime reporting, I'm pretty sure they mean, we don't really need to report crimes. Right. Like straight up, just succession level. We've been letting a thousand and came back with 988. Hey, the mystery of the sea. Am I right, folks? Anyways, just fucking wild. Those are actually pretty good percentages for us. 77 out of 80 is actually pretty good. We're improving our numbers

since the 70s. And yeah, just, you know, we earlier talked about the revolving door between politics and making money the group that is currently in charge of lobbying for the cruise ship industry headed by former white house staffer who worked with hillary clinton and who previously led the democracy alliance a network of wealthy donors who coordinate donations to liberal organizations so it's all was it do you have a name i'm just curious do we i just assumed absolutely craig head is the last name oh i i don't know mr head but it's not no they're always taken care of yeah is it how do you pronounce it yeah i mean kristin cinema will be head yeah. Yeah. And then another guy was Donald Rumsfeld's spokesperson. So you got the best of the best on this gig right now.

Yeah. Jesus Christ. But anyways, this thing's a monstrosity. There are environmental groups who are arguing that maybe cruise ships shouldn't be a thing. They only pollute and the only thing they provide is like leisure. They don't. They do provide work for comics at the end of their careers.

Let's not forget that. That's true. I mean, yeah, I don't know. It does suck that like this would, this would definitely be the thing that gets cut out before yachts. Right. Like before the private yachts of the billionaire class.

But yeah, that's what they are. They just turned into a thing where it's like, well, now that there's no cruise ships, you got to get on these like fucking yachts, man. Like that's where it's at. And just, you know, aspire to to do the yacht thing. Yeah. But it's funny. Like I was watching a video of someone like doing a vlog getting on like the maiden voyage and it's it's a it's nightmarish like i look i've i'll admit it like

i i enjoy a cruise there's something about i think i've been like my grandparents were big cruisers and ever since then i've been like oh man like i think there's also like coincided with me and going being in puberty and like never like always being hungry. So being on a fucking cruise ship was like, I'm hungry right now and I can eat 7000 pizzas and fries and burger. And I don't have to have the restraints of my parents being like, order off the kids menu or some shit like that. Yeah. I mean, haven't been in years, but like there's definitely like I have a fondness for the activity. You're saying you contribute to that lobbying organization. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they do it been in years, but like there's definitely like I have a fondness for the activity. You're saying you contribute to that lobbying organization.

Yeah, yeah. They do important work. But all that to say, I was watching this video of these people who are like, I guess, like vloggers who fucking just go on cruises like all the time. And it's just weird to see their level of excitement. Like, oh, my gosh, this is the pearl. And it's just like some shitty looking orb in the middle of the ship that like you walk through like a staircase and then just like how low the bar is for these people to get so excited because it's it's like a fever dream on that thing there's just so much shit crammed on top of other stuff like visually

it's so chaotic that i definitely don't see how you could relax on that. It's like going to how people are with Disneyland. Yeah, I was going to say Disney adults. Yeah. And also there's that one cruise that's going to every continent for a year, right? And people are posting the drama and stuff on their TikToks about what it's like. And there's like a beef between the world travelers and the segmenters. I don't know if you got that. Oh, that's right. Yeah, there's different tiers, right? Yeah. Some people had to buy that like nine month around the world voyage,

everything up like upfront for every single thing. And then because the sales were kind of like lax, they're like, they allowed people to just purchase different segments of the voyage. And so all those people are like, like, apparently I've seen a few TikToksx they're like they allowed people to just purchase different segments of the voyage and so all those people are like like apparently i've seen a few tiktoks you're like i'm being excluded from all these groups on facebook because they don't want segmenters involved because they feel they're really pissed off that segmenters got a better deal than them and they just all they can do like in these people like who bought the world package are like all i'm like all i'm i am is being reminded every day for nine months that I overpaid for some shit and I fucking hate it.

And you're like, wow. I mean, I love that both groups are unhappy because I hate them both. Right. Yeah. Truly. What do you got Lori?

Segmenters or the world? They lose. We win. Lori Kilmartin. such a pleasure having you. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? You can find everything at lorikilmartin.com. L-A-U-R-I-E. I'm one of those Loris.

Kilmartin, 1L, and Kilmartin. And my specials there. And old specials are there. And TikTok and Instagram and Twitter links and all that kind of stuff. Amazing. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? You know, I'm watching The Fear of the Walking Dead with my son. We watched all of The Walking Dead, all 11 seasons this year.

And now we're watching Fear of. And I am so bummed I didn't get into it when it was like real time. But it's great. I love it. I didn't think I, but it's great. I love it. I didn't think I'd love zombie stuff and I, and I love it. Amazing. Yeah.

I haven't watched that. I'll have to check it out. I will. Yeah. It's a huge investment of your time. It's yeah. It's massive. I won't check it out,

but I will say that I might check it out. I love how quickly you just didn't like, I can't be that deceptive. I gotta be true to myself here. I'm not going to check that shit out. There's so much TV I need to watch. I know. I know.

Yeah. Yeah. I think it's why I have like so many dreams where I'm like behind in the syllabus in college again is because I'm behind on TV so much. Like, God damn it. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm watching that's more current

is something called Money Heist. Have you heard of it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's like a Spanish show originally? Spanish show. They also did a Korean version where they had a similar plot as the Spanish one, but they switched a bunch of stuff up

because they made it like a collaboration between North and South Korea. So there's all this other stuff going on politically. I just watched them both. They're so great. They're on Netflix. Nice. Miles, where can people find you?

Is there a work in media you've been enjoying? Yeah, find me on the app-based platforms, Miles of Grey. Also find Jack and I on Jack and R on our basketball podcast, Miles and Jack on Mad Bur bursties uh and if you like 90 day fiance you can find me on my other podcast with sophia alexandra uh for 20 day fiance um let's see a tweet that i like is from al at the dark prowler and there's just like this there's

a video posted underneath it and it's stephen a. Smith, sports commentator, at like a video screen that like has like a bunch of Pokemon like characters on it. And the tweet says this, me trying to conceal, trying to conceal tears after learning my wife cheated on me. My five-year-old son in the back of my GMC Grand Sierra. You know what I kind of like? Charizard. The fire on the tail. The wings. He can fly. The claws on his feet. He can use that as a weapon.

He's not as limited as Blastoise or Venasaur. I'm gonna go with... Yay. Keep your chin up folks you know protect them kids man sorry the dark trowel that's tough tweet i've been enjoying uh alan wagner tweeted this picture of at least all my neighbors are on the same page for once and it's just like one of those public postings on a telephone pole someone posted how to punish my daughter question mark. My daughter is biting hair.

I'm a single father. So I don't have the quote maternal instinct calling all moms. Best way to tell her this is not OK without being too harsh. Please write the answer. And then the first line says feed her a stew. Feed her a stew that makes her blind. And then the first line says, feed her a stew that makes her blind. And then the next line says, feed her a stew that makes her go blind for one day. And then the next line says, stew that blinds her for a day. Feed her a type of stew that makes her blind for one day.

And then the last line says, one day blinding stew. That shit fucking destroyed it. That's awesome. Anyways, you can find me liking things like that on Twitter at Jack underscore

O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do you think people might enjoy? I was talking about this.

These dang TikTok beats get stuck in my head. And it's an instrumental to a rap song i played this for you yesterday by the artist or group i'm not sure the buttress and but the thing that's been trending is the instrumental version of the track i haven't even heard what the set the track sounds like with vocals so i'm going to represent i'll recommend the instrumental because it just sounds like a creepy like fifey like like a fife. Like, I'm talking about, I don't know, like medieval hip-hop kind of thing. It's called Brutus, parenthetical, instrumental. So the instrumental to the track Brutus.

And I'm sure if you're online as much as I am, you've probably heard it. But it's kind of a dope beat. So check that out. All right. We will link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it for us this morning.

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