The Daily Zeitgeist - Nike’s Profitable Wokeness, Justice KavanaUGHhhhhh 9.5.18

Episode Date: September 5, 2018

In episode 225, Jack and Miles are joined by Go Fact Yourself's J. Keith van Straaten to discuss Colin Kaepernick's Nike sponsorship, polls showing that Democrats are gaining advantage in midterms, the Kavanaugh hearing, Bob Woodward's new book 'Fear,' Crazy Rich Asians breaking records, the devastating museum fire in Brazil, the New Yorker Festival controversy, Damien Chazelle's new film 'First Man,' and more! FOOTNOTES:1. @TuckerCarlson: Colin Kaepernick sitting during the national anthem is a way of making a generalized attack against the country that makes him and Nike rich2. Outrage grows after #Nikepicks Colin Kaepernick as the new face of its #JustDoItcampaign – your thoughts?3. The Senate races where Trump approval is losing ground4. Poll: Democrats regain clear advantage in midterms shaping up as referendum on President Trump5. The Kavanaugh hearing6. Bob Woodward’s new book reveals a ‘nervous breakdown’ of Trump’s presidency7. Trump called Attorney Jeff Sessions a 'traitor,' and said 'Everybody's trying to get me,' according to an explosive new Bob Woodward book8. 'Crazy Rich Asians' Becomes Most Successful Studio Rom-Com in 9 Years at the U.S. Box Office9. What Was Lost in Brazil’s Devastating Museum Fire10. The Steve Bannon-New Yorker controversy, explained11. 'First Man': Neil Armstrong film fails to fly flag for US patriotism12. Marco Rubio and the Right’s Bogus Attacks on Ryan Gosling’s Neil Armstrong Movie ‘First Man’13. Damien Chazelle defends 'First Man' amid flag controversy14. WATCH: Robert Glasper Experiment - No One Like You (KAYTRANADA Remix/Audio) ft. Alex Isley Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Because all Miles need is a gray defense. Because I'm feeling like a zeitgeist boy, and I need to be redeemed. And I would just sing the rest of the song. But that is a Fiona Apple criminal, a.k.a. that is from Pablo at the Paul Cerna for that one. You know, I miss Fiona Apple. I really love that video, too. Yeah. Her last album was pretty good.

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the cultural cutting edge. Hey! We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the writer, host, and actor who co-hosts the Maximum Fun Podcast. Go fact yourself. Please welcome Ja'Keith Van Straten. Merci.

I just put a French spin on you. Oui, Ja'Keith. Do I get a song intro? Yeah, why not? Do you have one? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's come up with something. Are they supposed to be song parodies?

I'm Ja'Keith, Ja. Let's come up with something. Are they supposed to be song parodies? I'm J. Keith, J. Keith Van Straten. Well, you just did that one. That's the only song parody that I know of. You can tell that wasn't me singing because I didn't pronounce my second T. Yes, exactly. Good job, me. Straten. Straten.

Straten. It's J. Keith Van Straten, yeah? Yeah. Plugged in, mate. Yeah. Represent. Wow. This is what people tune into the show for, right? The accents. Yes. It's J. Keith Van Stratton, yeah? Yeah. Plugged in, mate. Yeah. Represent. Wow. This is what people tune into the show for, right?

The accents. Yes. The accent work. Bit of accent work, yeah. Yeah. Well, we're thrilled to have you back, and we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment, but first we're going to tell our listeners what we're going to be talking about today.

We're going to be talking about, of course, the Colin Kaepernick Nike controversy, or as Miles calls it, controversy. Controversy. Controversy. Controversy. We're going to be talking about 538 upping the Democrats' chance of taking the House to four in five. Last week, it was three in four.

So something changed in the polling. So five in six. We're going to talk Brett Kavanaugh hearings. They're happening. And, you know, it's just been wild up in there. But I don't know that anything's being accomplished. We'll talk about whether it is. We're going to talk about the new book by Bob Woodward, Fear.

It is the latest just engine of amazing quotes from people who work within the Trump White House. We're going to talk about at Jack, not me, at Jack from Twitter, Jack Dorsey, who has overruled a staff decision to de-platform Alex Jones. We're getting more details on that. We're going to talk about the racist robocall in Florida. The fact that Crazy Rich Asians is still out here, just dropped another 10% only at the box office week over week, which is crazy. That just doesn't happen. Usually it's like 40 to 50.

Anyways, we're going to talk about that as a cultural phenomenon. We're going to talk about a museum that had tons of huge cultural artifacts that just went up in flames over the weekend in Brazil. We're going to talk about the New Yorker Festival announcing and then promptly canceling their interview with Bannon. And finally, another right wing cultural outrage freak out. This one over a movie that comes out in October that doesn't show Neil Armstrong actually fuck the moon with the American flag. Fuck that moon. Fuck that moon.

Yeah. It shows the American flag. It's amazing. Yeah, but you don't see the fucking. Right. It doesn't show insertion. No full penetration. Because that way, yeah, there's no penetration shot.

Anyways, Jaquith. The Mooney shot. The Mooney shot. The Mooney shot. I'm gonna go. Thanks for having me. Gotta go out on top. What is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? I recently searched for Charlotte

Theater, because I'm going to Charlotte next weekend, and I like to see theater. Not many results, it turns out. Not a lot of theater in Charlotte, North Carolina. If you're listening in Charlotte and you know of some theater or anything else to do while I'm there next weekend, please tweet me. I will. They're showing The Lion King.

Oh, nice. That's about it. Okay. That's about it right now. I feel like everyone's seen The Lion King. The play? Anyone. Yes. The Broadway musical. I mean, I'm not highfalutin. I don't go to the theater, guys. I like some culture.

I travel a lot, and I like to see theater when I travel as well. And I'm actually, the reason, it's a little revealing about me is because the reason that I'm going to Charlotte is purely for the mileage. Oh, really? Yes. I need to reach a certain threshold of mileage on a certain airline by the end of this year, and it was a very good deal to Charlotte. I think it was like $100 or something around trip.

Oh, nice. And so that's the only reason that I'm going, and then I'm going to try to make a weekend out of it. There you go. There you go. They have food, right? They have internet. Oh, yeah.

Trying to keep that 1K status. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, not quite 1K, but I'll take my platinum. I'll take my platinum. Zeitgang, let them know what's good in Charlotte. Yeah, hook me up. What should you see? Buy me a drink.

Yeah, there you go. Well, Annie DeFranco is playing there, so I might go see her, although they only have standing room seats when I was looking, and I'm too old to stand at a drink. Yeah, there you go. Well, Annie DeFranco is playing there, so I might go see her. Although they only have standing room seats when I was looking, and I'm too old to stand at a concert. I'm too old. I realized I'm now, as far as concerts go, I'm too old to sit on a sidewalk to wait for tickets, which I guess you don't even have to do anymore. Right. Because back in my day, you had to wait until Ticketmaster opened at 10 a.m. Now you can just pay somebody to do that for you.

And I'm too old to stand at a concert. Yeah, and you'll get crushed in that mosh pit. That's right. DeFranco heads. You just get one of those canes that acts as a stool. Oh, I might. You know what? I actually have one that was my grandmother's in my garage, but it weighs like 30 pounds.

Yeah, whenever I see film, I'm like, that looks kind of a little boring. That was before like alloys. So it was just like wrought iron. Right. Yes. But maybe I will. But again, I think the only worse thing than standing at a concert is sitting at a concert where everybody else is standing.

Oh, that's the worst. So I don't know if that's going to work out. But somebody listening has to be able to hook a brother up. Yes. Oh, they will. Where can they find you? Just on Twitter. Just in case there's somebody who doesn't.

At J underscore Keith. J underscore Keith. You're also going to learn that at the end. Absolutely. But just in case you don't going to learn that at the end. Absolutely. But just in case you don't listen all the way to the end, this man needs to know some Charlotte shit. There'll probably be people burning right now. They'll be like, I'm going to just do it right now.

You know what? Do it. If you're North Carolina's eye gang, you pause right now and you give J Keith the hookup. That's right. NASCAR is off that week. The Panthers are playing. But I realize I've not watched NFL football on TV in a few years. So I don't know if I actually need to go in person.

Right. Panthers are cool. Yeah, I would go. I'd go to any sporting event for free, but again, invite me, hook me up. I mean,

how bad a guy could I be? I'm going to Charlotte. My first instinct was to see what theater was playing, and I'm interested in seeing any different go.

Hang out with me, guys. Would you go to like a high school theater performance? Oh, yeah. Well, it depends what it is. Yeah, sure, why not? I will see.

There's a musical called Next to Normal that I'm obsessed with and I will literally see any production of Next to Normal that I can go to. I've gone internationally to see, I went to Toronto to see the final night of the tour, I went to Buenos Aires to see a special reunion concert. I recently, you think that was something, I went to Simi Valley to see a production earlier this year. Whoa! That is crazy. That was something. I didn't know Simi Valley was actually just called Simi Valley to see a production earlier this year. That is crazy. That was something. I didn't know Simi Valley was actually just called Simi Valley.

I thought it was, you know how every valley has a valley and then there's cities within the valley? The whole place is just called Simi Valley. Really? Yeah, that's what I learned. Just Simi Valley. It was a very nice show. You are a well-traveled man, we're learning here. What is something you think is overrated?

Venmo. Venmo. I do not understand the overrated? Venmo. Venmo. I do not understand the big appeal of Venmo. I have needs to send and receive payments. Right. I'm able to do that with PayPal, which I learned recently owns Venmo. I don't know why they have to have a PayPal Junior,

PayPal for the Millennials. You can do it with the Square Cash app. You can do it now with Zelle on pretty much any bank account. Yeah. Cash also works. Apple Pay. Yeah, Apple Pay, Android Pay. There's so many things. And all of those except Venmo, keep your business private.

Oh, right. Yeah. And I don't want to know other people's business. Right. They're like, hey, you don't want to use an emoji to tell people? Oh, I hate it. They bought your Cialis again?

I hate it. And I'm not crazy about, generally, I'm not terribly opposed, especially sort of ironically for humor to use technology terms as a verb, you know, to Google something or to Facebook. People don't say that. There's something that does rub

me the wrong way about, why don't you Venmo me? Venme-mo. Yeah. Venme. They should call it Venme. Venme something. Or just fucking pay me. Yeah, how about that? Fuck you, pay me. Hey, fuck you, pay me. How about you fuck you, pay me? There's your next app. Million dollar idea right there on the show. Fuck you, pay me. Yeah, there you go.

And also it seems to take longer to get your money from Venmo than other places. And then there's all sorts of different fees and all that. And also, but more so, it's completely superfluous. I got enough. Believe me, there's plenty of ways to pay me. And I love receiving money. Don't get me wrong. If anyone's listening and wants to Venmo me money, I will gladly accept it.

Okay, yes. So the social aspect of it is like people doing jokey explanations for their payments, right? Yeah. I only use emojis. Right. To describe anything. And actually, I never, I seldom put my activity like public.

Right. I'm like, fuck you. And it's always the eggplant emoji, right? It's always eggplant, squirt water, peach, and the big tongue coming out of the mouth. Boy, this guy loves vegetables. Am I right? And fruits. What is something that's underrated?

Underrated? I'm going to say the post office or generally the U.S. Postal Service. I still think it is a miracle that you can pay less than a dollar, put an envelope in a box, and it will go anywhere you want in the country. It can go across the street. It can go to a very hard to get to rural mountain location. It's a cliche, but rain, sleet, snow, hail, dogs, whatever their motto is, they get it there. I still think it's a miracle. And also, what are you going to do? You're going to pay FedEx or UPS 30 bucks? You're going to get on a plane and bring your letters somewhere else? The USPS gets a lot

of shit from a lot of people, and especially a lot of current government folk. But it's a miracle. Oh, they signed a bad deal. It works well. They had a bad deal with Amazon. Oh, yeah, yeah. Real bad deal.

They got ripped off. That's right. They somehow agreed to be paid to do a service. Yeah. Yeah, somebody was just talking about the idea that when you go out to eat in America, you aren't scared that you're going to be sick for the next three days. And that's a miracle of the government. Yes.

Of government. Regulation. Regulation. Exactly. But we completely take it for granted. And I feel like the post offices are similar. And also, they have agreements with post offices around the world to get your letter even further. Right.

Farther. But we only think about it. There's something about the way our brain works that we only think about it when it fucks up. Absolutely. And I do think I've wanted to learn this from an economist at some point, because I do think they do charge too little. I would rather they charge a dollar.

Just make it to a dollar for a regular stamp. Right. And then use the money to actually upgrade everything so that when something, by the time something should cost a dollar to send, they're ready for it. And also if it makes people send fewer letters, then fine. Then you prioritize it. Stuff gets there

sooner. There you go. But also they have this new thing called, I think it's called informed delivery. I was about to say informed consent. I do believe that also is part of their policy. Where you can actually, they will actually scan your mail for you and email it to you before it's delivered so you know what's coming. So especially if you have like a PO box or if you're out of town, you want to know what mail has arrived at your home. Right. They tell you a game.

They will scan the envelopes and you'll see what mail is coming. So if there's something important you need to have a neighbor pick up or you got to get yourself. You know, they're they're not just delivering paper I mean they're right and they do that technology They do that before like right before it gets to you It might I'd be interested if they did that like right when the mail got put in the because like Amazon like Amazon delivers a package And they'll like send a picture of the box outside of your right or yeah, or or no I mean like before like on the senders and like the right you give it to them, because, so if it gets lost, you have some notion. Or you could just say, you know what, don't bother.

Right, right, right. And finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true? I think this will go back, this will circle back to something I was talking about earlier. But I think there's a myth that there is no theater or sort of general high culture in Los Angeles. And I've lived here for over 30 years, and I think that's completely untrue. It is harder to find. I mean, you know, obviously it's a cliche to compare New York and L.A.

I think L.A. has all the culture that New York has. You just have to go look for it. Okay. So there's tons of great small theaters. There's, you know, obviously anything that's big in touring we get, either, you know, the Pantages or the Taper or Amundsen, all that kind of stuff. But I think people think, like, oh, it's just actors showcases, you know, soap opera actors doing stuff for agents. And sure, there's some of that. But there's good, legitimate theater and a lot of stuff that originated here as well.

And especially if you expand beyond theater, you're looking at art. We got, you know, the Broad now is, I think, a jewel of the place. You got your, you know, everything downtown with the Disney Hall. Lack Momoka and all that. There's a lot of great art and real culture. And then, yes, plenty of crap. Plenty of showbiz crap and TV parodies and all that stuff. But I think there's really interesting- That's true of Broadway, too.

Oh, my God, of course. No, there's plenty of- Fuck off, Broadway. Yeah. You heard me. You and your 499 plus seats. Yeah, I've read old articles from the New York Times, the New Yorker School of Thing. Oh, the New York Times at work.

At the L.A. culture scene. But recently they've updated that and been like, remember when we used to be able to laugh at L.A.? Right. Now they're cooler than us. Everybody moves out there. But really interesting stuff. Shout out a couple of theaters. The Bootleg does great stuff.

There's a place called the Rogue Machine Theater, always does really interesting original works. And it's out there if you guys want to see it, folks. And much cheaper than in New York. Yeah. There you go. I've never seen a production at the bootleg. Only music at the bootleg. Yeah.

Yeah. That's a great space. They do really interesting theater. Yeah, it's like their actual story. I think I'm doing a storytelling show there sometime next month. We'll find out. All right. Very cool.

And one of the most organic plugs we've ever gotten on this show. Oh, really? I just sort of stuck that in again? I mean, I don't know. Maybe you can go to... No, you established yourself as like pro-culture, pro-LA culture. And I just happened to be a part of it. Oh, and I'm just...

If you liked that, maybe you'll... Yeah, yeah. I mean, or maybe you're just a simple person with base tastes, which is also welcome at my show. Oh, if you go to Bootleg, though, too, there's an amazing taco truck on the corner, just like walking distance down the block. So another if you go to Bootleg, though, too, there's an amazing taco truck on the corner, just like walking distance down the block. So another reason to go to Bootleg.

So LA, so LA. Yep. So big story from over the weekend, Colin Kaepernick is now the face of the 30th anniversary of the Just Do It campaign. We were all on the edge of our seat being like, who are they going to choose for this campaign? Were we? No, campaign, we were all on the edge of our seat being like, who are they going to choose for this campaign? Were we?

No. No, we were not. Didn't even know. Didn't know that it was the 30th anniversary. I guess I didn't know. But, you know, it's cool that they're siding with Colin Kaepernick instead of the evil NFL owners who are, you know, blacklisting him. Who pay them to make all of the uniforms for every team.

Yeah, that's kind of cool. They are still a, you know, giant corporation that has all sorts of problematic things going on. But, you know, in terms of taking a side in the culture war, I think it's been fun to see the response from the right. Oh, man. So many people. So unpredictable. I never would have So many people. So unpredictable.

I never would have thought they would burn their shoes. Yeah. Right. Yeah. After they burned their other Nike equipment. I feel like Nike, when they were burning their Nike NFL jerseys, was like, all right, motherfuckers. Yeah. You've started a fight.

You're like, guess what, asshole? We just re-upped the deal with the NFL for eight more seasons. Right, exactly. Hope you can find those old Reebok jerseys from the early 2000s. So yeah, I mean, Fox News was not happy. Tucker Carlson is describing this as an attack against America, and I think we have audio. It's pretty decadent, actually, I think. I mean, first of all, it's factually ludicrous.

You can't give up everything and maintain a Nike contract. But the decadent part isn't even really about Colin Kaepernick. He's an athlete, a young guy. You know, I would give him a pass, actually, on a lot of this. It's the executives profiting from him and his attacks on the United States while simultaneously denying that they are attacks on the United States while simultaneously denying that they are attacks on the United States. So they're saying, you know, he raised the issue of racial discrimination in this country as if it's never been raised before, or as if, you know, the historical

problems with that aren't obvious to every single American. Of course they are. This is an attack on the country. So it would be very different if he were saying you know I'm protesting this politician or this policy or this specific person is this specific thing but no sitting during the national anthem is a way of making a broad-based generalized and therefore impossible to rebut attack against the country that made him and Nike rich and again there's something really decadent about that when the most successful people in your society hate the society, you've got a real problem. It's a metaphor for our entire ruling class, many of whom feel that way. They hate and resent the very system that made their prosperity, their success possible. It's a huge problem for all of

us. The amount of work that he's doing to contort himself so that his position of siding with NFL owners is the little man. The not the ruling class. Yeah, is him sticking up for the underdog is amazing. Boy, they do not like when black people have opinions, huh? No, not on Fox. Oh, my God. I mean, this is they called this a fucking attack on America. He's exercising his right to bring awareness to systemic racism.

Yeah, you have to be willfully ignorant, which I would not put past anyone there, to not know what he's protesting. Like to say that there's no topic or issue. Yes, there's not a specific person. Yes, there's not a specific whatever it's a politician. But it's so clear there's a cause, whether you agree with it or not, whether you want to attend to it or not. There's a cause. How do you not see that? Well, that's the only way they can avoid talking about it is by saying, well, I don't want to engage him on the basis of him bringing up, you know, the violence towards people of color from police or whatever.

That is just like, well, no, because this is attacking against the troops. It's a disrespect against the country. Right. whatever, that it's just like, well, no, because this is a attack against the troops. It's a disrespect against the country. Right. Like, just be like, if you're really going to look like some sane person or be a social critic, why don't you then engage him on the idea of what he's arguing? And I know it's not the biggest point, but the fact that he said he's sitting during

the National Anthem where it's so obvious that he's kneeling because, you know, because he chose to kneel based on talking, you know, with someone in the armed forces. Right. That was more respectful. with someone in the armed forces that was more respectful, is again, it's willfully ignorant. It's ignoring any truth of the issue. But I have to say,

there is something that doesn't quite feel right. There does seem something a little bit exploitative that I guess I would agree with a little bit. That like, yes, it's certainly better than saying, you know, pro NFL or, you know, or going with this whole, you know, he's disrespecting America or the troops or whatnot. They could have shown J.J. Watt like putting his hand over his heart like during the national anthem and made that the face of their 30. Even though J.J. Watt's not a bad guy. Sorry, I don't mean to imply that.

Yeah, but there is something that does feel a little weird of co-opting a cause, you know, but, you know, Nike has done this before and other big companies do this all the time. And again, you'd rather have it be on the, what we think is the correct side of the issue or not. The answer to all those questions with what corporations are going to do is always for profit. So they're like, it is more profitable. So on one hand, yeah, I totally see it's like, okay, I see what you're doing, but also it's better to be on the right side. Exactly. And especially when it's actually a real issue totally see it's like, okay, I see what you're doing, but also it's better to be on the right side. Exactly. And especially when it's actually a real issue. It's not like, you know, after 9-11 and Budweiser, you know, running, you know, ads with the American flags and supporting the troops and all that.

I mean, you know, it is something that obviously is going to get a big response. But on the other hand, it's like this also means that Colin Kaepernick is getting paid, which, you know, well, it's not being paid for making football. What do you call it with the sports in the running room? Making football. Yeah, for making football plays. You did not let me finish my sentence. It's not for playing football. Like he is being paid for being an athlete and an activist.

And, you know, I'd rather have that happen than not happen. Right. And, again, I think it will put it back in the conversation. But obviously, yes, of course. Of course this was not an uncalculated move where they you know they figured the the all the free publicity they're getting i mean how much usually would you charge nike to have a discussion this long on your podcast right i mean that's billions right there yeah so all the stuff on this one yeah exactly all the free publicity they're getting

you know they're they're no dummies over there right yeah i was just gonna to say, I mean, the fact that they made this decision, you know, their motives were probably purely profit related. But the fact that they looked at the issue and said, OK, this is what's going to make us the most money, I do think is a sign that at least the right side is winning. Because, I mean, they wouldn't do that without doing tons and tons of market research. And, you know, they looked at the people who are going to be behind this decision. They looked at the people who are going to cut their socks up. That guy who cut his socks up. That'll learn him. What the fuck was he cutting those socks with?

I had a point on Wonkette. The guy was saying like, yeah, because walking with jagged ass socks isn't going to lead someone to go, hey, what happened to your socks? And they'd be like, oh,

you know, Nike, because blah, blah, blah. It's like, you're already inviting more discussion about Nike from aggressively fucking your socks up.

I kind of feel bad for the sock cutters though. I mean, you know, they are pretty powerless. Like, what can you do as a consumer? You know, let's say you do legitimately,

you know, believe that issue. It's like, you're kind of powerless. consumer? Let's say you do legitimately believe that issue. It's like, you are kind of powerless. What are you going to do? It's a big corporation. You start a hashtag pig socks, which is the most confusing hashtag. Well, there's this other thing, too. Remember when Keurig pulled their advertising on certain Fox shows?

They're like, we're throwing our Keurig machines out. And people were saying, if you really want to fuck them over, take your item and then sell that. So then you are getting the profits from that by destroying something. They've already collected your money. Right. And you're not doing anything. And that means someone is less likely to buy a new one because they're going to buy that one. But there is a myth on the right that the right is trying desperately to perpetrate that, you know, going against their beliefs, going against conservative white supremacist politics is dangerous for businesses.

And they are focused on one of the headlines on Drudge this weekend was NFL ratings expected to go down again this year, which would have been true whether or not there was this controversy. Because NFL ratings, along with all TV ratings, have been going down pretty steadily on average. Like when you look at the mean, they've all been going down because more and more things are on streaming and, you know, you can play video games. There's just all sorts of reasons TV ratings are going down. But they want to focus on that because, you know, we'll talk a little bit later, but they are the smaller group in a cultural landscape where they're having to, you know, do a lot of work and a lot of contorting to make themselves seem a relevant and important and, you know, like they are the underdog, I guess. Yeah, always the victim. Always the victim. Well, you know who might not be the underdog?

Who's that? This fall. Some Democrats. Right. The House. Yeah. And that's what we call the gray pivot in the past. No, we were just talking about,

I know that NBC and the Washington Post just put out a poll that has Democrats up 14 points on the generic ballot. Yeah. Which is pretty big. But, you know, everyone just go vote up 14 points on the generic ballot, which is pretty big. But, you know, everyone just go vote and contribute to a campaign any way you can. Go canvas, go funding. Wait a minute, are you saying that we just can't take for granted what a poll says?

Yeah, I don't know. I need evidence. I'm literally going to be like walking people to the fucking polls. I don't care. Even though this race is a lock, you have to get out there. Do not take anything for granted. And it's still not a lock. Five thirty eight now has adjusted their, you know, calculation, taking all of like that poll and all other polls into account.

They still have it as four and five. So that's they've gone from three and four. So seventy five to eighty percent. That's still, you know, one in five. Yeah. Still election five times. Yeah. Somebody the wrong person wins once. That's yeah. That's not nothing, guys. Yeah yeah it's still you're in an election five times and somebody the wrong person wins once that's yeah that's not nothing guys yeah that's still huge so uh it's still

important i think it's still not high enough but uh i don't think you're going to get to the place that a lot of people thought the trump election was like the day of the election 538 had it at three and four so this is currently uh more tilted towards Democrats than 538 thought the Clinton-Trump race was. But it's still a pretty significant chance that Democrats don't win. And the odds at that time were the same about the Cubs winning the World Series. The Cubs weren't supposed to win the World Series, and they did. So just keep that in mind. It can happen.

Yes. It can happen yes it can happen well yeah the other thing is the cook political report also nudged a few races to slightly favor democrats in some senate races which is also kind of big because they were looking at sort of just trump has lost the most ground since his inauguration in arizona florida north dakota wisconsin and michigan huh and so you know there are a couple of reasons like, oh, this maybe this can be this might lean Democratic now or likely be Democratic or going from solidly Republican to only leaning Republican. So, I mean, there I don't think there's a high chance of the Senate going to the Democrats,

but still, you know, a good sign that there is momentum moving in one direction. But again, polls don't decide elections. Voting does. And also, someone tweeted a thing about how Beto O'Rourke, they're like, oh, at his town hall, 300 people showed up at this one, 500 people showed up at this one. At his grassroots headquarters to do canvassing, zero people showed up. Oh, really? So that's the thing.

I know it's fun to go and feel the energy of a campaign or whatever, but really use your interest to translate that into doing something for the campaign. I'm glad you said that because I've actually been thinking about that. I am going to go to Texas and do some canvassing. Oh, nice. Yeah. Yeah. I got to see how many more miles I need. Yeah. Did you like do that pudding thing that that one dude did? No, no, no. That was long gone by then, but I have done similar. You are making the system work for you. Exactly. And I appreciate that. That's what I do. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back.

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we're recording this on Tuesday, this morning there was a lot of people protesting and screaming and disrupting things. And the headline was like, chaos at Kavanaugh hearing. But the Republicans are completely in charge. and the chairman is like, yeah, we're going to stay here as long as it takes. We're going to get this done. It really seems... We had talked in the past about the fact that Kavanaugh is historically unpopular. He's less popular than previous Supreme Court nominees who didn't get confirmed, but that doesn't change the fact that the Republicans are going to vote straight down party lines. I think a lot of people were counting on Susan Collins to vote against him

because of the risk to a woman's right to choose. And it has come out that he was on a list that Susan Collins pre-approved of Supreme Court nominees. So she's already, I guess, like she's just, that's a foregone conclusion. Yeah, that's why today was a lot of theatrics and not much of anything of substance aside from, you know, suddenly like people like Cory Booker and Kamala Harris, like they were saying great stuff.

Sheldon Whitehouse brought up some really good points. They were getting campaign footage. I mean, they're getting campaign commercial footage. And it's just sad that- Standing up to Republicans. Yeah, right. In the impotence that they're in right in. And at this point, it's too little too late. Yeah. And I was reading a few things. People had a point of like if they really

felt this whole thing was a joke because it was just a sham from the beginning and that senators weren't able to review the entirety of like the government documents that Brett Kavanaugh had a hand in or touched during his time at the White House, that, yeah, this thing was just a foregone conclusion. It doesn't even matter what we do. Then leave. Then don't be in there. Let the Republicans be in there.

I think they can show something more because other than this, this is just a lot of empty calories. I get that the stalling and the grandstanding has an effect, but I don't see how this is going to lead to anything other than him likely being confirmed as a Supreme Court judge. I don't think it'll change anything in terms of, yeah, the confirmation. But I don't know about the optics of actually not showing up. I feel like that's easy for an opponent to say, you know, you've got to participate even if, you know, in a primary maybe to say, you know, I would stay and fight. I'm not going to give up on my constituents or something like that. I'm not sure.

I think there's debate. But this gives an appearance. There is no fight, though. This is only the appearance of a fight. Right. It's good for their optics on the Democrats. And I think that's disingenuous to even present this entire confirmation process as anything but a thing that was scammed by the Republicans to obscure whatever his documentary history is. No, no.

Believe me. I think all that's terrible. But I don't know. I think there's something to be said for going on the record. You make a statement. It gets on the record. The cabinet makes a dumb decision later. And you can say, look, I said that on the record.

And then just be like, well, fuck that. It doesn't matter because it's just a shame because you can even hear the amount of protesters that were screaming during that hearing that people understand what the stakes are like and how the the way that you know he's likely to vote on very important decisions is it's frightening to many people so much that they have shown up sure and they're raising their voices and you can really tell that there's just this deep fear about as companies will just do their tactic of losing in lower courts and just appealing all the way up to the supreme court to get their you know final decision from their protectors in the Supreme Court. It's just, yeah, I don't know. It was a very eerie sort of thing where you could hear these people screaming and they're...

It was eerie. It was like echoing and... Yeah. And it was like, you could just hear their existential dread, like, from a lot of things they were doing. Well, you got to take that, you know, further up the pipeline. It's like, you got to... That's why elections matter.

Yeah. Absolutely. Exactly right. You you gotta work for uh you gotta work to get the people elected who are gonna uh challenge that and or not nominate people like that in the first place yeah i mean there's been an unprecedented breakdown in the decorum from the republican side in terms of just being like yeah that's not how this works anymore we don't give a shit what you say and we're going to steamroll through this. And that's why we're able to say, even though this guy is unpopular in an unprecedented way, he's still going to get through. And I do feel like maybe this is a chance for the Democrats to dramatize that breakdown in decorum from their side on the floor, as opposed to sitting it out and maybe also like rally the troops. But as long as they're acknowledging, you know, this is on us like we fucked up. We lost a bunch of elections. We were not on the filibuster. They took the nuclear option on the filibuster for the Senate because we don't we I just don't want them to whatever they're doing to disrupt this process. And I think they should be doing unprecedented things to disrupt

it because it is an unprecedented, you know, fuck you from the Republican side. But they still need to acknowledge that, like, by playing by the rules, the Republicans sort of beat them. It would be nice if at least one Republican said, I acknowledge that there are people who don't like this. And, you know, let's give them a chance. Or we didn't even give Merrick Garland a hearing. Don't get me started. You know what I mean? So that's what I mean.

It's not even a fucking game. No, they won. A game presupposes there are rules, and this is just brute force, just fuckery. That's why the tactics of when there are rules in place can work at times, but we're looking at something so, so different. So beyond what's normal that like, yeah, I don't know, aside from just people trying to scream and yell that their healthcare is at stake or their rights as being in the same sex marriage is at stake or whatever it is, reproductive rights. I wish we could have done more. I wish, I wish the Democrats could have done more, but we're looking down the barrel of a new Supreme Court justice in Brett Kavanaugh. Yeah. Speaking of things that

aren't normal, so book Fear by Woodward is out, Bob Woodward, and it's just full of mind-blowing details with regards to the Trump White House. So let's just take a look at a couple. There are so many. There's just so much stuff in here. I'm just going to pull quotes from the Washington Post article because they were the ones who had access to the book because Woodward is obviously a Washington Post reporter. They talk about Trump sitting down to a mock interview

of what the questions Mueller would ask him and how he would perform. So his lawyer Dowd peppered Trump with questions about the Russia investigation and kept provoking stumbles, contradictions and lies until the president eventually lost his cool, shouted this thing's a goddamn hoax. And at the start of a 30 minute rant that finished with him saying, I don't really want to testify. Right.

So the next part of that, when they say that Jay Sekulow and John Dowd went to Mueller's office to talk about like why they probably don't want him to interview is amazing. Because he's saying, I'm not going to sit there and let him look like an idiot. And you publish that transcript because everything leaks in Washington. And the guys overseas are going to say, I told you he was an idiot. I told you he was a goddamn dumbbell. What are we dealing with this idiot for? John, I understand, Mueller replied, according to Woodward. Oh, my God.

We all understand. Even Mueller's like, no, I mean, I get why you wouldn't want this guy, but sorry. Them's the rules. Or I mean, if they're our rules. Who knows knows anyway. Woodward is the guy who brought down Nixon through Watergate and his investigation to Watergate. So it's important to, like this is somebody who has some, you know, frame of reference of like how a corrupt and fucked up White House operates. So he also there's a story about how John Kelly would frequently lose his temper and told colleagues that he thought the president was, quote, unhinged. In one small group meeting,

Kelly said of Trump, quote, He's an idiot. It's pointless to try to convince him of anything. He's gone off the rails. We're in crazy town. I don't even know why any of us are here. This is the worst job I've ever had. End quote. Wow. And just to be clear again, this is not like a Taco Bell in Topeka. This is the White House. This is John Kelly being like, this is the worst job. I hate it.

Why don't you resign? Who cares? He's already shown himself to be a disgrace too. So I don't think, you know, John, go do yourself a favor too. And why don't you resign? Because it's not like you're the, whenever it was like, oh, he's the one holding it all together. I don't know though, who the fuck would come in and run things? Dennis Rodman.

Like, what would it look like? Like, would we all just be i don't know i just don't know who we want in that role because it has to be someone that trump respects well anyone who would want that but it even sounds like john kelly can't even get him so it's not like there's anyone actually keeping it together no i'm john kelly's like he doesn't even fucking live what's the fucking point yeah no he's so yeah what's the point of you being there anyway. Very frustrated. In terms of how Trump thinks about the people around him, the book says that he does an impression of General H.R. McMaster behind his back, puffing up his chest and exaggerating his breathing as he impersonates him. And he once said McMaster dresses like a beer salesman because he doesn't wear expensive suits. And he called Attorney General Jeff Sessions a traitor, complained everyone's trying to

get me, and also called Sessions, quote, mentally retarded. Yeah. He said, this guy is mentally retarded. He's this dumb Southerner. He couldn't even be a one-person country lawyer down in Alabama. Yeah. And who picked him again for right exactly the other thing about wilbur ross he said like he said trump trump told

commerce secretary wilbur ross who actually looks like a person who's rotting from greed inside right uh he said trump he's the guy who lied to forbes right yeah and who i think we talked about yeah how his lies about being a billionaire to try and get the Forbes list. And he's actually one of the biggest criminals in that administration, but he's just been so stealth about it. He's not like the Scott Pruitt ilk of just doing it out in the open. Anyway, he told Wilbur Ross, who's like older than him, goes, I don't trust you. I don't want you doing any more negotiations. You're past your prime, which that makes sense.

But again, these are the people that you're hiring. The best people, Only the best people. The other amazing one, did you read the one about Gary Cohn stealing stuff off his desk? No, what? So, okay. So, Gary Cohn has basically, because this dude is so mentally not there all the time, there was a thing. He said, according to Woodward, this is in the Washington Post thing, he said,

Cohn, quote, stole a letter off Trump's desk, end quote, that the president was intending to sign to formally withdraw the United States from a trade agreement with South Korea. Cohn later told an associate that he removed the letter to protect national security and that Trump did not notice that it was missing. Wow. That's awesome. CNN also reported on this more. And from Cohn, it said, I stole it off his desk, Cohn told an associate. I wouldn't let him see it. He's never going to see that document.

Got to protect the country. So that's how we're doing it. It's just like, you know, sneaky. Just steal the desk. Yeah, right. Take it all up. Here's an anecdote about why they might be worried about national security with him in charge. The president once phoned Defense Secretary James Mattis and said, let's fucking kill him.

After Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad launched a chemical attack on civilians. Let's go in. Let's kill the fucking lot of them, Trump said. And yeah, they were like, oh, OK. So that's not how this works. That's against international law. The way this was reported is because he basically

was granted interviews by people who were familiar with the situation on the condition of what's called deep background, which means that he can write what they tell him, he just couldn't reveal the particular sources, but he's like, this was a person who was there and saw this. This is not hearsay. This is direct reporting.

I'm just not allowed to say who it was. I thought all anonymous sources were made up though. Right, yeah, that was fake news. Oh, be careful. Whoever this anonymous source is, he needs to go to jail. I don't know who this guy is. Can we go back to the beer salesman thing? What is, how does a beer salesman dress

and how would Donald Trump know how a beer salesman would dress? He doesn? How does a beer salesman dress? And how would Donald Trump know how a beer salesman dress? He doesn't drink. Right. He doesn't pay people. Yeah. Was that even a profession? Yeah.

Like a door to door beer. Because you think he's thinking of a time when he's still engaged with the normal world. Right. So like in the 60s, were there door to door beer? I'm imagining like one of those kids trying to raise money for like a softball field trip. Right, right, right. Hello, man. My name is...

Would you like to buy this beer? This Coors Light case. Yeah, we have either Hershey's chocolate, giant Reese's pieces. Whatever you want. Man, but I'm buying that beer. I'm buying that beer. Yeah, a lot of these like sort of excerpts are just... But also Trump's suits are terrible.

Yeah. Trump doesn't dress well. His clothes aren't well tailored. He's got these super long jackets and ties. He looks terrible he does seem to have a double standard with regards to

other people and himself sure I've noticed I don't know that's just trademark one last one about Ivanka though that I really like

is that there's an interaction with her and Steve Bannon he goes you're a goddamn staffer Bannon screamed at her telling her that she had to work through Priebus

like the other aides quote you walk around this place and act like you're in charge, you're a goddamn staffer, Ben, and screamed at her, telling her that she had to work through Priebus like the other aides. Quote, you walk around this place and act like you're in charge and you're not. You're on staff. End quote. Ivanka Trump, who had special acts with the president and worked around Priebus, replied, quote, I'm not a staffer. I'll never be staffer. I'm the first daughter. First daughter is not a thing.

That's a movie. Yeah, that's a movie. Right. In which. With Sinbad, I think. Right. Called First Kid. The First Kid falls in love with.

Okay, First Kid is not the one I'm thinking of. There's also First Daughter or something where the premise is that the First Daughter falls in love, I think, with a Secret Service agent. I feel like Hilary Duff needs to be involved somehow. I was thinking Katie Holmes, but it could be Hilary Duff. No, Katie Holmes is in First Daughter. Oh, it's a real thing. She arrives at college

with a group of Secret Service agents. Samantha, however, resents their presence and decides she wants to attend school just like a normal student. Uh-huh.

So that's what she was trying to associate herself with. She saw that movie and was like... I'm sorry, do you know who directed that movie? Forest Whitaker? Oh. Ooh. Wow. What? Yeah, man. The fuck? He was like i'm sorry do you know who directed that movie uh steve forest whitaker oh

wow what the fuck he was like this is gonna be my brave heart this is gonna be my breakthrough what i just and looking at like googling and it's like director forest whitaker yeah this is my theory that really great actors don't make good directors because it's like Michael Jordan coaching an NBA team It's like he's just like why don't you just score right right fucking score idiot and Whereas like people like Ben Affleck and Mel Gibson who aren't great actors, but they know how to look good in movies End up being decent directors and Clint Eastwood He's just like a handsome dude who like knows how to like what angle to look at the camera with. Anyways, we're going to take another quick break and we're going to be right back.

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where Trump was basically like, well, it's a shame you didn't call me. Why didn't you call me? You should have called me. I would have given you all the information and corrected all this. Yeah, I would have corrected all this misinformation you have. So too bad, you probably can't print the book then, huh? And Wilbur was like, no, I talked to a bunch of different senators. He said six different people in the past couple of months. And he was like, oh, well, I don't know who. Those people must not know me. And he was like, I don't know who, uh, I don't know. Those people must not know me. And he was like, uh, Kellyanne Conway. I talked to her twice, like two months ago. And he's like, Oh, Oh yeah. Lindsey Graham.

Yeah. He said, he talked to you about talking to me. Did he lie? And he goes, Senator Graham actually mentioned it quickly in one meeting. Yes. We'll see. And then nothing happened. That is true. That is true. Well that no, no but that it's we do you'll get a headache trying to read a transcript in these recorded phone calls you do get a sense of him as a liar and him like not being very good at it like the amarosa call where he was like god damn it really who did this no no oh no and in this one where woodward is just like i think it's pretty clear you're lying and he's like like, yeah, I'm lying. I'm sorry.

Okay. You got me. All right. On the cultural front, Crazy Rich Asians just hit 110 million domestically. It dropped just 10% after dropping a really small amount the previous weekend. So it is, yeah, it just continues to be a juggernaut. And it's pretty unprecedented. The last time I remember a movie that had this kind of hold

for this many weeks is like the first Hangover or something. Is that true? Also equally important movie for, you know. Another Ken Jeong vehicle. Yes, yeah, exactly. America loves Ken Jeong. But, yeah, it's just still crushing it um right and it said yeah it's uh one of the top showings for a rom-com and since the sandra bullock ryan reynolds

classic the proposal which earned 164 million yeah in 2009 in america this is essentially like having a western that does this well because like rom-coms within the film industry were like oh those are dead like you can make them and put them on netflix and you'll like make your money back because they'll make four million and you just spent two million on them but this is just out of nowhere what the fuck was the proposal even about i mean i feel like as a concept i remember it but i can't for the life of me be like oh yeah the proposal was was Sandra Bullock. I believe he was her assistant or somehow worked in the company. And then she had to pretend that she was either engaged in order to not get hassled by her family. And so she proposed to him that why don't you come and pretend to be my fiance?

Wait, wait, wait, Jay Keith, I think you had those backwards. You must have been saying he when you meant she and she when you meant he because no way a woman would propose to a man. That's crazy. Well, here's what's even weirder. And he was her assistant? Come on.

These two like to bicker. And you would not believe what ends up happening at the conclusion of the movie. These two people who you think will never get along, let alone have a romantic connection. Well, I don't want to spoil it for you. Okay. But they fuck.

Oh, shit. I love the poster, the subtitle, the proposal. Here comes the bribe. Ooh. Because apparently they said the log line on IMDb, a pushy boss forces her young assistant to marry her in order to keep her visa status in the U.S. and avoid deportation to Canada.

I forgot about that part. Ironically, Ryan Reynolds is Canadian. And in this case, he's playing the American that she's using to attach herself. I didn't know there was crime involved. Yeah. Oh, that's awesome. Sham marriages. Well, I mean, any boss forcing their assistant to propose or get engaged to them,

I think that's a crime right off. Ah. Different time. Not if they're handsome. Right. That's true. I think that's a crime like right off, but different time. Not if they're handsome. Yeah, right. That's true. So we lost like one of the great museums in the world over the weekend, went up in flames in Brazil.

This is the same museum where a year ago, the dinosaur room, like a room where they had all these amazing, important dinosaur fossils, was infested with termites because they just didn't have the money for upkeep. And Brazil is a crazy, corrupt country. And we're in the dying stages of something. They got those Olympics done, huh? Yeah, yeah, exactly. I bet those venues had sprinklers.

Right. I mean, what else did they have in there? Like, just everything, huh? Yeah. All kinds of... Early man, like just very important. Something like 20 million artifacts, something like that? Yeah.

Important parts of the historical record that we don't have anymore. Oh, that's like really heartbreaking in a way. Like, you know, who knows if the things that were in the museum should be there. Because after going to the National Museum in England, I was like, ooh, look at all this stolen shit. But this was, yeah, it just bums me out to know when they're holding real pieces of our history as a planet and it just all burned up. I think a meteorite survived, though.

Just imagine all of the future school children who will not have the opportunity to be bored by looking at this stuff. Yeah, of course a meteorite survived. The meteorite survived. Entry into the atmosphere. Now what would be cool is if the meteorite had caused the fire.

That would have been kind of cool. Let them know. Damn. Yeah, so I don't know. Oh, one of the most prized possessions was a skull called Lucia, which is among the oldest fossils ever found in the Americas. Good God. You think they had insurance?

You think they had good insurance? I don't know. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if this was an insurance scam. Yeah, probably. They'd be like, hey, man, I had that skull. That was like $3 billion. Right. Well, how do you insure something that's priceless?

Right. That's what I would say. If I was Lloyds of London, I would say, you know, what are we going to give you? Nothing? Yeah. Sorry, it was priceless. We can't give you any money. That's right.

All we can give you is our deepest sympathies. Great British accent again, by the way, taking it back to the town. Our deepest sympathies. Brazil, by the way, if you just want to get a sense of Brazil, just like go on YouTube and look for videos of Brazil police forces just dominating people. Yeah. And you can look forward to our militarized police state. Yeah. It's a big authoritarian police state.

It's pretty crazy. Well, yeah, what's funny now is now they're thinking about going back to, like, military rule there. It's been like, yeah, I think we want to go back to that now. There's a lot of energy moving around in that country in terms of its leadership, especially with their upcoming election. So the New Yorker Festival, we were all on the edge of our seat again, waiting. Okay, what is Nike's 30-year Just Do It campaign going to be? And who is going to be headlining the New Yorker Festival this year? Will it be Beyonce? Will it be, oh, by the way, happy birthday

yesterday, Beyonce. Will it be Kendrick? It would be Steve Bannon. Steve Bannon was the headliner. He was going to face off with David Remnick. They were going to talk and argue, and a lot of people weren't thrilled with that. Miles, thoughts? Jake Heath? He had a platform. He has a platform. He's doing what he has to. I know some people think it's good to have public debates or whatever to dismantle his arguments in public or whatever. But it's pretty clear what his worldview is. And I don't think he needs to be normalized any further. Yeah. It's not like he's a great scholar of conservatism.

I mean he's a bigot. Right. I think it's been established. And a failed producer. Yeah. Right. I don't feel like there's And a failed producer. Yeah. Right. I don't feel like there's anything he needs to add to the conversation. But I do agree that having a conversation with people on opposite sides can be valuable,

but you don't debate flat earthers. Right. Exactly. And he's the flat earther of humanity. He wants to create an ethno-state. He wants to, quote, dismantle the administrative state of the government or whatever, which basically means hacking off parts of the government, privatizing it for corporations to make money off of it, and thus making the government less and less effective and unable to regulate things.

You know, it's just it's all part of his plan of just weakening government, creating an ethnostate, limiting immigration. Those are like that's his fantasy world that he lives in. Right. But I mean, it makes sense. Like you're saying, Jakey, if you're debating somebody who is also operating in some kind of logical reality, that there are touchstones where you can agree as a baseline this is reality. But he's just there for his very inflammatory takes and things that are only going to trigger the libs. There's no way it's going to be productive.

And I like that we live in a world where Patton Oswalt says he's not going to do something and it has an effect. I like that you were like John world where Patton Oswalt says he's not going to do something that has an effect. I like that you were like, yeah, yeah. Where John Mulaney has power. John Mulaney was like, all right, I'm out on the New Yorker Festival. And so they canceled the interview. And people are wondering, like, well, does this mean that debate is dead in this country? And I think it's probably like I think the results of this interview when both sides were like, yeah, we showed them.

And yeah, like, yeah, that's the problem. You know, so much motivation to, you know, owning the libs by. Right. It's just going to be more. I don't know. I think maybe David Remnick, the editor of The New Yorker, came in being like, oh, we're going to just demolish this guy on stage. and being like, oh, we're going to just demolish this guy on stage. But, I mean, Bannon is pretty convincing to the people who already want to believe him. And that's what our country is right now. But also, you know, the New Yorker has done their own reporting to debunk and show what a, you know, what a nothing burger this guy is. Right.

You know, it was so disrespectful, I think, to their own writers and editors. And a lot of them, you know, banded together and let their opinions be known as well. The New Yorker does a great job when they are reporting facts and writing long form stories. And I don't know if you know, they have these little cartoons. Oh, my goodness. And they have dogs doing things that normally only humans do. And then the dog will say something quite pithy. I just got the coaster set.

Usually about being in psychoanalysis. I only like colorful cartoons, unfortunately. I'm a simple man. And I don't mean to say that the analysis of Steve Bannon isn't necessary because there's a documentary from Errol Morris that's coming out this, who producer Nick Stumpf brought up. And I understand that on some level, from a journalistic point of view, you want to talk to people with divergent opinions

and then begin to talk, have a debate or whatever. But I've never seen him concede any talking point of his in the face of fact. And to me, I'm not sure if you're just going to report on, oh, look at this pure evil person. Then yes, you can do that on the mere existence of it. I don't know what, I'm curious to know, like even in the fantastic version of what this

Q&A was going to look like, what they thought it was going to do, aside from what we were saying, is just create more just division in the culture. It's cash for outrage. You know, you're going to get people on both sides saying that they won and it's not going to further anything. Whereas a documentary, I think it's a, you know, Errol Morris I trust to confront. He's done great documentaries about Rumsfeld and about McNamara. And, you know, I trust him to take on a person who made terrible decisions and has terrible opinions in a way that actually could be, you know, enlightening and showing someone for who they are.

But also there's the opportunity cost of you book a conversation at a festival with Bannon. Who are you not booking? You know, with Ben and who are you not booking? What point of view are you not putting out there, especially one that maybe deserves more exploration and something that we don't already know from another white guy? Right. From a different white guy. And by the way, I like a lot of white guys. Right. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. No, obviously. We want to keep as many white guys as possible. I didn't say that exactly. I just meant that I don't have complete self-hatred. Right, right. The Fog of War, by the way, the McNamara documentary is amazing because he's kind of like has intellectually, but not to his soul, like processed what he like all the ways he fucked up.

But he's still just like real,, has that positive businessman spin on it. Like, hey, we were trying this thing and it didn't quite work out, but it's like- He doesn't see the human toll. Right. And then the Rumsfeld one, I think it was called the Known Unknown? The Unknown Unknown.

Unknown Unknown, okay, there you go. Yeah, just seeing what a weirdo he is. Right, that one is more about just putting a very strange, immoral lunatic on display uh whereas the McNamara one kind of gives you a little he has more distance and it's just weird because there are all these things that he was very guarded and uh you know short-sighted about back during the Vietnam war that now he's like yeah so that was mistake, and we fucked that one up. And so it'll be interesting to see what the Bannon one is.

But again, it has to just be a depiction of a horror show. Right. And I think that's what people were describing. It's a horror film. Right. Because, yes, I think we have to understand the kind of sort of authoritarian right-wing movement that Bannon loves to get stuck into, especially in Europe now where he's like exporting these kinds of beliefs and being like, yeah, do you guys like

this sort of brand of xenophobia? And I think that clearly has to be monitored. But I think you get into slippery territory when you're like, come to this thing, let's talk when you're not going to say anything aside from just being contrarian or whatever. And Bannon was not that successful when he went to Europe, right? Like, it's not like he won a bunch of elections for them over there, right? Well, he's been, you know, like, you know, Marie Le Pen and like even in Italy, like they talk to him and he knows how to turn a lot of people's anger

into something more destructive. Right. And I think that's what his awful gift is. What a legacy. So the other thing that the right was freaking out about over the weekend was the lack of gratuitous flag shots in the upcoming Damien Chazelle film, First Man, about Neil Armstrong landing on the moon.

And I assumed that they had like blacked out the flag or that they had like done a- I think they think that too. Right. I think that's what they think. And then you the the shots of him with the flag on the shoulder and the flag's there they show the flag is there the only thing that is left out is him actually stabbing the moon stabbing the moon with an american flag and declaring victory doing a touchdown dance but the movie doesn't come out till october this is all based on you know people

who saw it at the premiere. How did this controversy start? Who would know? It was premiered at the Venice Film Festival this week, and critics loved it. But somebody made the point that, oh, they don't show this, which is an interesting choice. And they're right. I'm sure not a single person who has objected has actually seen it. Of course.

They're just looking at. Well, and also, isn't a huge percentage of these people probably folks who think that it was faked anyway? Right. Yeah. They didn't show the studio where you put the flag in the movie. Well, that's what I'm talking about. Where's Kubrick?

Where's that truth? Huh? Mm-hmm. But yeah, so I don't know. I think it doesn't help you have a Canadian and Ryan Gosling on there, too. They're like, oh, this guy's even American. Damien Chazelle. Yeah.

But then Marco Rubio, they see this tweet. He said, this is total lunacy and a disservice at a time when our people need reminders of what we can achieve when we work together. The American people paid for that mission on rockets built by Americans with American technology and carrying American astronauts. It wasn't a UN mission. Yeah. Okay. And remember when Neil Armstrong said, a small leap for man, a giant leap for America?

Americans only fuck the Earth. American kind? I'm out here fucking the Earth with a flag. In your face. All of you. Get your moon. Flag drop. But Buzz Aldrin, who is the official voice of this story.

You know, he's the man. Second man. Right. Oh, right. He'll be in the sequel. That's a good point. So he tweeted out a photo of himself next to an American flag on the moon. Hashtag proud to be American.

But as our writer, Jay McNabb, pointed out, should we really listen to Buzz Aldrin's criticism of the movie? It's called First Man. Letting Buzz Aldrin weigh in is like asking a can of RC Cola how it feels about the Coke you're drinking. Yeah, I think that's about right. Shut the fuck up. I mean, also, too, I'm sure there were many people who were. I'm sure there are many people in the space program who were not born in America who were contributing their knowledge, know-how, expertise. Like the Nazis.

Right. Exactly. Operation Paperclip. Google it, guys. America isn't a country made up of just people who were born here since the fucking 300 B.C. This is a country of immigrants

too. So, you know, in a way, this is a fucking, it's a victory for mankind, as he said when he got on the moon. Yes. And again, they do show the American flag. Also, it's a movie. Right. Also, it's a movie. Right? Guys, it's a movie. Also, they point out Mark Rubio, one of his favorite movies, Wedding Crashers.

In his top three. Oh, okay. I mean, can't fault him for that, but... The other is Quino Scotzi and Eraserhead. Yeah. So he's a pretty rounded out dude. Yeah. Weird choice that Forrest Gump is the third man on the moon, on the moon mission. I don't know. Yeah. So he's a pretty rounded out dude. Yeah. Weird choice that Forrest Gump is the third man on the

moon on the moon mission. Okay. That is going to do it. Je Keith. It has been a pleasure.

Such a good time. Thanks for having me back. Where can people find you follow you. Well the main thing is that if you like comedy celebrities or

trivia or any combination they're in please check out my celebrity comedy trivia podcast called Go Fact Yourself. It is on the Maximum Fun Network or wherever you get podcasts. You can find us at GoFactYourPod.com and on social media at GoFactYourPod. If you're going to be in L.A., we do our shows before a live audience. We've got shows coming up on October 7th. You can go to GoFactYourPod.com for info and free tickets.

And then let me know what to do in Charlotte. Yeah. At J underscore Keith. There you go. On the Twitter. Miles, where can people find you? Oh,

you can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Hey, J Keith, I forgot to ask you, is there a tweet that you've been enjoying of late?

A particular tweet? Oh boy, you're putting me on the spot. Oh yes, I'm a big Angels fan, and as you probably know, they have a two-way player named Shohei Otani, and there's, I believe, a Japanese Twitter account called Everyday Shohei

or something like Everyday Showtime, and it's all in Japanese, and it's just different gifs of him doing random things on the field or of bobbleheads or little tribute things that people have made. I enjoyed it very much. I enjoyed Japanese fandom of baseball. How is his season going?

Pretty good. He was injured for a couple months. He just returned to start a game over the weekend, and he did okay. Yeah. So considering the fact that he pitches and hits, he's doing pretty great. First guy since like the days of Babe Ruth.

Exactly. Pretty crazy. It's pretty fun. Miles, what's a tweet you've been enjoying, man? Oh, it's just pretty great. First guy since the days of Babe Ruth. Exactly. Pretty crazy. It's pretty fun. Miles, what's a tweet you've been enjoying, man? Oh, it's just that one. So if you saw the Colin Kaepernick ad, it's like a black and white portrait, very close-up image of him with the words, I think, believe in something, even if it means sacrificing everything, just do it.

And the internet, because you guys are a fucking bunch of savages, put a picture of Kanye West in a similar black and white portrait close up, and it just said, slavery is a choice, Adidas. So, come on now. But hey, you know. Hey. Do what you gotta do.

Also, I think maybe Drake did have sex with Kim Kardashian. That's what all that beef was about. That's fun. Oh, really? Yeah, there's some interesting Twitter threads going on the internet. Like recently? Yeah, a lot of people Twitter threads going on the internet. Like recently? Yeah, a lot of people were saying if you really look at it,

the side A of Scorpion is all about how he smashed Kim Kardashian and that he's also, Joe Budden had talked about it too in his podcast a few weeks ago where he was saying that essentially Drake had shared with Kanye this plan or what he was going to do

and then Kanye basically shifted all of his marketing around what Drake was doing to do and then kanye basically like shifted all of his marketing around what drake was doing to like as a major troll move oh it's a very very in-depth theory uh but there are many theories floating around but that was the one that had everybody on on twitter going wild and was part of drake's marketing plan to fuck kim kardashian i don't know that's the way to know i think but that's why you know, that could be the Kiki he's talking about in my feelings. Oh, all right. What?

What does any of that mean? Yeah. You get it. It's all right. You get it, Chase. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, millennials, right, guys? Am I right?

Also, Miley Cyrus's little sister is tweeting because she's breaking up with her boyfriend, and this couple looks like they're 12 years old. I think she's 18, and this couple looks like they're 12 years old. I think she's 18 and he's 21. As John Daly says, he has teeth like he still has his baby teeth. He really does look like he still has his baby teeth. A tweet that I've been enjoying is from Brynn McLooney at Dagger Trout on Twitter. She tweeted a picture of The Matrix and a picture of Fight Club side by side and wrote

two movies that have been hilariously misinterpreted one about the struggles of coming out written by two trans women the other about a critique of toxic masculinity written by a gay man and I think nothing has been truer that I've read in a long time you can find me on twitter

at Jack underscore O'Brien you can find us on twitter at Daily Zeit o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes we also post those in the description of the episode or the information

about the episode that's where we post links to the information that we talked about as well as the song that we write out on. Miles, what's that going to be today? I heard a remix of this Robert Glasper Experiments track by Kaytranada. Kaytranada is a producer or artist that I talk about pretty frequently on here, or at least have write-out music. And this one is a remix of this Robert Glasper Experiments song,

No One Like You. But, I mean, I don't know if Chris Daddy Dave is the one playing these drums or if they've been programmed by Kaytranada, but drummers, put on your thinking caps. You're going to want to start shedding after you hear this track. It's a really good track, No One Like You,

Kaytranada remix. We're going to ride out on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. We'll talk to you guys then bye I've been touching for a long time And I can't find No one like you I've been touching for a long time

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