The Daily Zeitgeist - Ninja Goebbels In The Hot Seat? Oligarch TikTok Bad? 01.29.26

Episode Date: January 29, 2026

In episode 1997, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian, actor, writer, and host of Worse Than You, Mo Fry Pasic, to discuss… That’s why Teenage Mutant Ninja Goebbels Is In The Hot Seat... Not Under The Bus Yet,  TikTok Isn’t The Only Tech Company Backing ICE, Melania Doc Watch and more! Daily Zeitgeist: Our 2000th Episode is Here!!!... Chuck E Cheese - Most Perfect Day (Rap Song) Scoop: Blame game erupts over Trump team's false claim Alex Pretti sought "massacre" Pressure grows on Stephen Miller after Alex Pretti killing but Trump unlikely to cut ties TikTok users say they can’t upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues TikTok is investigating why some users can't write 'Epstein' in messages The Trump-approved US TikTok is off to a rough start TikTok Says It’s Not Censoring ‘Free Palestine’ Comments. Users See Something Different TikTok now specifically tracks immigration status and gender identity TikTok alternative Skylight soars to 380K+ users after TikTok US deal finalized TikTok's new terms of service spark backlash, but experts say they're an industry standard Meta Is Blocking Links to ICE List on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads How Amazon Powers ICE’s Deportation Machine Apple Took Down These ICE-Tracking Apps. The Developers Aren't Giving Up SCOOP: Apple Made ICE Agents a Protected Class “Melania” Movie Popcorn Bucket Hits ebay for $29.99 — Can Be Purchased Without Actually Seeing the Film Fuming Melania Puts Trump Aides at Risk of Ouster: Wolff Melania Invites Host of Z-List Celebs to Vanity Doc Premiere LISTEN: Danger by The Lijadu Sisters and also check out NUR-D's music here: https://nurdrocks.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That should just be what we do now. We'd like, the show should just be D1. Hold on. You play D1 volleyball? Can't have you. Fugged out of here. Because both of you are tall, right? Play sports not good at.

Well, I, the sport I'm best at is ice hockey, ironically. But other than, but I'm a, but I do love basketball and soccer. And I play soccer terribly most of the time. Yeah. I play basketball. in high school. I was not a college athlete. Okay. I was a college alcoholic. Hey, I'm from Wisconsin. I was too. I was starting, I was starting five on the Xanax abuse team at UCLA. That's fun. That's fun. We called ourselves a time travelers.

Wow. That's beautiful. That's such a poetic way to describe. I would say time benders. Yeah, yeah. Whatever. I'm time bending. Yeah. My other friend was here. He was in the midst of a crisis, and it was just a windy day. This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human. Talking to your kids about the dangers of vaping can be hard. Getting them to listen to hot gossip is easy. So here's some drama you could share with your kid.

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So they never go back. You can go back and binge them any time. It's Thursday, January 29th, 2026. One day. One day and one day only. It's National Corn Chip Day. That's it. Nothing fucking else on the schedule.

Just national. This is, it's rare. when you get just one fucking holiday. It's corn chip day. Also, for my millennials, it's Andrew Keegan's birthday. If you remember the actor Andrew Keegan, who's 46 years old. What do I remember Andrew Keegan from? You don't remember Andrew Keegan?

Look at this face check. Ten things I hate about you. Yeah, 10 things I hate about you. Come on. Look at this face check. Tell me if you remember this guy, this stud, Andrew Keegan. Oh, Andrew Keegan. Oh, the Kings, dude.

Yes, yes. Do you want to start a cult? in Venice? I think he might have. He did, right? Didn't he? Yeah, I think when I moved out to LA, he had a cult going. Yeah, yeah.

A cult on a late simmer. Yeah, that's, again, that must have been why my subconscious were saying, point that out. Point that out. It's also. Speaking of other people that have brought us weird things, it's Oprah's birthday. Thanks for Dr. Phil and Dr. Oz. I mean. And Uncle Charlie Wilson, 72 years old.

For those of us that love the Gap band. baby Charlie Wilson's birth. That's, I had to make up for the lack of good days, but Charlie Wilson's birthday. Good die. Corn chips? Favorite corn chip? Does it have a chip? What we think?

I mean, that's a tortilla chip. I feel like a tortilla chips, it's, if we're going to like corn chip, I got the frito. The frito is a, a chili cheese frito, I love that. Big, thick corn chip. Wow. So you distinguish between like the white corn chip of like a tostito and the, you, you distinguish between, the thick yellow corn chip of a, well,

there's like, I think, I think there's a, there's a tortilla chip, like really the spirit of a corn chip, and then there's whatever deep fried paste of cornmeal that Frito Le has called corn chips as like its own genre of chip. You know what I mean?

Like, Doritos aren't even like a tortilla chip to me. Doritos are Doritos. Yeah. So, you know, I like to say, call me OJ,

because if it's got Edo, I'm winning. There you go. Dorito, toastito. Judge Lancido. Judge Lantito. There you go. All right, my name is Jack O'Brien.

Okay. The fuck are they talking about? My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. It's Miles Gray, aka Sinners has everything you want. It has everything you need. It has everything in a movie that you wish you could see. It has all the right scenes at exactly the right time. But variety doesn't like it and you kind of know.

Because Ryan Cooner's black. Anyway, shout out to Johnny Davis for that. We all know. It's got a lot of work to do. Okay, Miles. Yes, it's been nominated for 16 Academy Awards. Yeah, yeah. It's got a lot of work to do before it wins those.

Work to do. Yeah. Some of variety is probably saying. A lot of work to do to prove itself against Titanic. variety. The week after it came out and made like shocking amounts of money, published an article saying, yeah, you know, I guess it did pretty well, but still got a lot of work to do. Look, this is the great juxtaposition because Christy with Sidney's Sweeney came out. The Christie tweet was Christy featuring Sweeney, the boxing trailblazer debuted, debuted with $1.3 million. The R-rated blah, blah, blah. But then the Sinners won. Sinners has amassed $61 million in its global debut. It's a great start result for an original. are rated horror film, yet the Warner Brothers release has $90 million price tag

before global marketing expenses. So profitability remains a ways away. Lasting all that fucking error just because you want to shade Ryan Cougler in the cast, especially Ryan Cougler for upsetting the traditional profit share scheme. Getting some of that money. Getting the rights to his own movie.

Yeah, they were also pretty excited about Chris Pratt's new movie's ability to like make $6 million on a $75 million. million dollar budget because because there was a snowstorm. They certain, certain movies they're looking for. Wait, did they really make excuses for mercy because of the snowstorm? Yeah. They were just like, you know, I mean, it's it knocked off Avatar for to become the number one

movie. And they, they acknowledged that it was a little light, but then immediately we're like, but a big snowstorm, you know, big snowstorm. Oh God, poor snowstorm. Miles, enough about us. Yeah. thrilled to be joined. Enough about Chris Pratt. We're thrilled to be joined in our

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the podcast. We're seeing you. Please welcome back to the show. Mo Fry Passing! Mo! Must on the beat. Oh. Mostard on the beat. What's that mostard?

DJ, Moster! Moster! Moster! Moster! Hello! Hey, hey, hey. Hello.

I'm happy as a clam to be here. Hello, Maw. Hi. What was that? What was that? Marn. No, oh, Moy. Oh, Morn.

Yeah, Ma'i. I'm actually going to backtrack us to call me OJ because I'm consuming Rito. No, call me OJ, because if it's got Edo up there, as in Frito, Dorito, Toastito. I know, but what's the initial reference of I'm winning? Judge Lance Edo was the judge when OJ Simpson. Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, it's a, it's an easy reference to. I got another vocal stem from that era, Jack. I'm just remembering that we used to say, say hi, Jujito. That's what we would just scream in class and get in trouble in 1994 during the Oji Trial. That's creative. Did you watch the OJ trial at school? When at certain times, one of my teachers would put it on.

The verdict we put on in Spanish class. I watched the OJ verdict in Spanish class. But was it the only like TV? Did everyone else have to come watch with you? No, no, we had TVs. We had a- They rolled that thing in. Yeah, use classroom.

Shout out a Lexington Catholic in Lexington, Kentucky. There we go. I remember. Big budget, big AV budget. Big priest budget. I remember because it was like 90, I think I just started fifth grade and the, Yo, they were shocking in fifth grade. Well, no.

They showed me 9-11 in the fifth grade. Yeah. We got to see 9-11 in 11th grade. But when the verdict happened, like the one, my one cool teacher, this dude, Mr. Meyer was like, he's like, hey, dude, OJ's not guilty. And I was like, hell, me and the other black group. Sounds like he's handing you a lollipop while he says it. Yeah, yeah, he was, I think he was kind of like, I think he was.

He knew because we were always asking. We're like, is Judge? Hey, is OJ going to be guilty? Is OJ not guilty? And yeah, anyway, it was a small celebration between me and my homie Jami. My Aunt Mary Rose is like an L.A. icon. She was a principal in the school district here. And my Aunt Mary Rose and Jay, they were sisters. I love them to death.

Both passed on. But when the car chase happened, they drove to his house. Wow. They were on that because a lot of people did do that. They were like, yo, this shit is, we know, the police may not know where he's going, but we know where he's going. And I'm about to get on TV. Truly, not even TV. They just loved being a part of like celebrity culture.

They were like, oh, like, you could see this. Like, we just philip and went to church with us. It's like those cool little, like, L.A. things. So they truly, and I feel like people forget, it's not like you saw it on your phone or someone text to you. Like, you just had to see the chase and then be like, let's drive to his home that we know where it is. Yeah, exactly. Body of Christ. That was my, that was my Regis Philbin.

church. Peace be with you. Yeah. I don't know. He could have been a communion minister. I don't know. No, the big story was that he peace be with them and that was huge. Yeah. Peace be with you with you. That's terrible. Mo, we're thrilled to have you here. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things that we're talking about today. We're going to check in with teenage mutant ninja gerbils. Teenage mutant ninja gerbils. He's in a bit of a hot seat. Nazi in the hot seat, turtle power. Yeah, it seems like he might be catching the L for Trump having to backtrack on this. This is making him look weak, man. Like Maga matted him now. So we're going to talk about that.

There's a lot of finger-pointing going on there. We're going to talk about TikTok and their censorship that seems to be going on. Yeah. Well, you know, CNN says a lot of people. are drawing circumstantial connections. And they keep like being like, it's untestable. It's so weird how vague it is. Yeah, they keep acting like it's impossible to test this.

But it does seem pretty clear that certain words such as Epstein and anti-ice messaging, so suddenly your message is not going to be appearing the way that other messages will. So we're going to talk about that, but TikTok's not alone. We're going to talk about what meta is doing to hold shit. back. We're going to talk about what Google is doing because they're all they're all complicit Amazon. They're all they're all in on Apple. I love that plenty more. But first, Mo, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Oh, yes. Yesterday I googled, oh, what did I put it down? Oh, are there sleeves for ceiling fans

to make them more beautiful? Sleeves. This is a great idea. Damn. Because I, I first of all, I also find them so ominous. I don't like them. And I'd rather chandelier, but I'm renting. So I'm trying to find something I can stick that won't fly off, but it is decorative and also not, because when I searched that, it was a bunch of, like, fleece covers that looked so corny. So that's, that's what I'm looking up right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's such a good idea. Because you never see anybody doing anything fun with the ceiling fan. It's just, like, I feel like you could get some fun designs on there and it could like turn into an optical illusion or some shit. I was looking at the appliquees for like molding, like, you know, how there's like like roses or like

in the corners of like Rococo or Versailles style stuff. I was looking at appliquees for that, but I'm still worried something like fling off. Yeah. That is also. You do having a seven year old in the house, you start to remember that there's a lot of fun shit you can do with ceiling fans by like throwing things into them or having them like sit on the edge of it and I don't do it but I I remember now that I did do it when I was a kid and my my son's like to like to throw up Doritos see them fly yeah yeah launch just like why why use a food processor when you have a ceiling fan

yeah exactly I I think that works sleeves for a ceiling fan I'm not like we get a lot of uh I ideas on here that I'll pretend. We hear a lot of shit on here. We hear a lot of shit. This is a good idea. You should get some, you should get an Etsy. I'm just going to apply. Damn,

myles just started an Etsy store. Yeah, sorry. Now I can't. Sorry, I'm just getting the copyright and the patent registered right now. To beautiful sleeves.com. Beautiful fan sleeves. Fancy fan sleeves. Fans sleeves.

Well, we'll work on it. Yeah, okay. I wonder if it effect, like, If you've got them too puffy or, like, if not form fitting enough. They have to be aerodynamic. Yeah, they have to be completely aerodynamic. I'm just. Because if it was like a doily style, like that would just create so much drag, it just like breaks your fans.

Yeah. At first I was picturing like, you know, the toilet seat covers that old people have. The fuzzy ones. I was picturing that, but that doesn't work quite as well. Like low pile carpet? Yeah, low pile carpet. That would look fine. Dude, shagg carpet would look fine.

That would be fun as hell. Although, God damn, just wooden fan blades get so dusty. I was going to say that thing. Yeah. A lot of effort, a lot effort. Starts looking like a David Lynch movie, something out of eraser head, you know? I'd be fine with that visually, but physically no. Mo, what's something you think is underrated?

Underrated? Being boring is what I said. Like, I'm feeling like any time, I don't know, I'm going to parties or meeting people. I don't want to talk about anything or be interesting or be interested by anybody. I would love to look at a shared thing. I don't even want to be interested by you. I don't. I want to look at like something in front of us both and have an opinion.

Do you know what I mean? I'm like. TV or a movie. Sure. Or even just like the design on this, you know. Sealing fan sleeve. Literally. Actually, though.

Wait, so what is your worst nightmare version of going out? If you're like saying when I go out, I'm not trying to be entertained. What's like the high stress version of going out for you then if you're like, man, being boring is actually way better than this. High stress. Most things are high. I don't go out a lot. Sure.

I don't. Or like I guess when people feel like I need to say who I am or what I do. Be interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Try and put an interesting spin on it. That or like, yeah. Yeah, like it does feel like that or like to receive someone away. when you're in a space where you can feel like you're supposed to receive someone a certain way.

Like when people are like, I do this, blah, blah, blah. And you want to have a normal conversation where you're like, oh, what's like, what's that like, what's that like, there's an unspoken expectation that, like, you don't ask that. You just know, or have a certain respect. It's like there isn't, I don't know. I could just be like making just general social interaction more bog down. That shit happens in L.A. a lot, though, too, because I'm sure like any big city where there's like an industry too, where people will like to like leave. with that or like just sort of set that up. I'm like, I don't know.

Can we just be like two fucking people holding a beer? And like, that shit's weird over there, huh? And genuinely, and I like, and I don't mean, I hope not to sound like, you know, like the nihilist's lead of like, you know, a Russian novel. But I'm like, and it's not that people suck. It's that like I think people feel we need to do this like because we underrate boring and just chilling. Right. And just human. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's right. I think the version that our society, like, points us towards is boring. Like, the version of ourselves, which is, like, talking about your job. Right. I don't give a fuck. And that's such a huge, like, delineate, like a punctuation in your evolution with your friend groups, too. Like, when we were all, when we were all unemployed, kicking it was so pure. Yeah. But then when the, when the toil gets introduced and the full-time toil gets introduced, like, it really fucks up our capacity to do like the old thing which is just like man let's just fucking stare at this like dumb show or talk about this thing and laugh together because a lot

of time it's like dude I'm so fucking ground down yeah and genuinely I also think it's like a lack of permission where it's like I think people would if that was given permission more but people feel they have to because of social norms like have to talk about certain things or share certain things about their life or like it's not I don't think it's something most people want to do. Right, right. Yeah. I feel you.

What is something you think is overrated? This could be, this could be inflammatory to some people, but I think Miyazaki. Some people. You're talking about what's going to be? Hayao Miyazaki? Yes. Go on. I'm open.

I'm open to this. Tell me, tell me. I don't think, I mean, as an artist, as pushing genre and form, completely rated, like, fine. Overrated, I think, one, I was pretty. allergic to him when I was younger because I was on Tumblr a lot and it would be people who made that their whole personality and if you didn't like it,

it was a referendum on your taste and I hate Zach as person out. Just to, because I don't, I don't want people to freak out. You're not coming in being like, Miazaki as a filmmaker sucks. I know, I'm actually going to go there. Yeah, that sounds like it. Because not as a filmmaker, I think, not bad, I'm not

saying bad. I'm saying overrated, especially in terms of because I saw Castle in the sky and over the weekend because I was like, I'm older, I want to give it a try, I want to see it. And when I watched it with an open perspective, I went with a friend who really, really loves him. And I felt affirmed in my impulse that while it's beautiful and wonderful, it's a, there's a lot of internalized misogyny under the performance of like a female empowered voice. But I always say people can't tell the difference between a director who hates women or a director who

hates women and loves his mom. And this feels like it falls under hates women loves his mom because it's like, it felt like these ideas, not quite. It felt like simplicity driven from an inability to accept complex versus an understanding of the complexity. And so what we herald him as is this feminist and complex to these very like beautiful ideas of humanity. I think we're giving him too much.

And then my friend told me his whole. things about like identity, family support was that like his family said he was like a horrible and he himself was like I was not there. So it's not someone, I don't know, it just doesn't feel embodied. Sure, sure, sure. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I definitely won't push back on that because I think just generally just Japanese culture. Try it push back. No, no, it is no, it is very misogynistic like to its core. So that's always going to, it all that I think definitely bleeds through and a lot of like sort of like those depictions. But help me out though because people what I hear is people say he's like feminist and he has female leads that are empowered and I was watching I was like no but just no yeah I mean I think I haven't seen castle in the sky in a long time but I think for a lot of the people they probably limit it to like two to three Miyazaki films and just draw everything from that and are so hyper fixated on their love of that that it's like any fandom where I think it gets because even for me like about this yeah yeah growing up in like with Japanese like I'm Japanese so ambiently Miyazaki was like always around I wasn't a fan of

every single thing. But I think it's like on one hand, because he just completely created a whole other form of like animation and an aesthetic that to your point is like properly rated. Yeah, I think going deeper is totally fair. But yeah, I mean, I think the, I think like with any fandom, absolutes are probably not great.

But I think. Yeah, that's probably what I'm getting at. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like it's everyone, everyone is a human that's flawed on some level. But I think, yeah, I don't know that it, I'd, It depends on your outlook. And I think for sure, growing up in, like, the Tumblr Miyazaki era is like, it was tough.

Poisonous because I even was like, oh, my God, dude, what the, like, please leave this shit alone. Leave me alone. She does not need to be cut up like that. I will say, I think a lot of Miyazaki fans are coming with a room tone of Disney movies. Yes. And Disney movies messaging around women. Fair, really fair.

Like, is based on the wildest, most sexist tropes that, like, you could possibly embody. Like, I've, I went on the Beckdale cast to talk about Snow White and how they, long time ago. But, like, they, the ways that she, every time, if you're just viewing it as like a chart of her being in trouble and in danger, anytime she does something of her own volition, it is exactly. sending her to her death. And then every time that she is unconscious, that's when she is saved. It's like the message is

like, agency is death. The message is like, don't have agency and just be quiet and don't do shit to the point that if you can be unconscious, like there's a part where the seven doors are about to kill her with a pickax and then she like rolls over in her sleep and they're like, whoa,

she's pretty as hell. Then like there's, there's part, like, she gets saved from the coma because, like, she's just laying there in a glass coffin, like a piece of artwork and the prince charming. Like, here's how pretty she is and rolls up. But then, like, the stuff that she does of her own volition is, like, sprint into the woods, face first and just get, like, knocked out, then, like, break and enter into people, a person's house, eat the most clearly poisoned apple of all time. From a person who hates you.

Yeah. So, I just feel like, I feel like, I feel like, And then from there, it's just always that's the shit is just like, you know, very, that's the under-undergrading message of a lot of Disney, princess movies. And then to come upon Miyazaki, people are like, yo, this is fucking, is this written by like a feminist? Judith Butler? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Thank you. Thank you for giving me. I think it's like feminist by comparison, but I totally take your point that like once it gets that sheen, people probably are giving it too easy a pass and just like taking it in as like, this, this must be fucking great because it's not Disney.

That's really fair. That's why I say overrated, not bad, like by no means you might say bad. It's just that aspect of him felt so overrated to me in a way where I was like, and you're right, like comparatively sure, like societally sure. like societally sure and especially you're saying like you're growing up and it's around everywhere then absolutely it's rated in I guess what would that be when you're rating to scale I guess sure sure appropriately rated but yeah right there's like appropriately rated I think it's like anything there's another layer of analysis people can engage in with it that probably people choose not to to sort of preserve the idea of like no I need it to be my you know my comfort film or

creator. That's my favorite line from the office is when Mindy Keeling's character, Kelly Kapoor, when they're talking about, you know, it's now the episode is under review, but it's when is Hillary Swank hot? And then Kelly's character just says, no, because if Hillary Swank's not hot, then I'm not hot. That's right. Who is the fairest of them all right? It's so perfect. To looksocracy. We belong. We belong. Power is transferred based on who is the previous. Ryan. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. The Volkswagen Beetle started out as Hitler's dream car. It wound up as a beloved hippie icon and the best-selling car of all time. How did that happen? I'm Jacob Goldstein. And I'm Robert Smith. On business history, we tell the surprising stories behind the inventions and entrepreneurs that shaped our economy. And the story of the beetle is truly surprising. It has so much in it. It has Nazis. It has the German economic miracle. And it features one of the most famous ads of all time.

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And we're back. We're back. And I mean, it's time to get to it. It's time to get to it. It's time to get to the man. Teenage man, Ninja gerbils himself. Yeah, dude. In the hot seat.

In the hot seat. You never want to see that. Yeah, it turns out that the terror campaign that pretty much has all of America freaked out is not going well. Every day there are headlines about the fracturing of the party over this. And we talked about it. It's like, I don't know. Some people who aren't running for reelection suddenly found a backbone. And they're like, I mean, I'm not running for re-election, but I think this is all bad.

got to go. Everything that happened before this, I totally agree with. But yeah, I think a lot of it is more so that there's more a lot of finger pointing. And a lot of the fingers are aimed at Teenage Mutant Ninja Gerbils himself, Stephen Miller. For starters, it turns out, we talked about there was this two-hour immigration showdown meeting at the White House on Monday, the one that was about potentially like recalibrating their approach, not necessarily saying we're going to stop it. It's just like, how do we make this more presentable? It was missing one vital person, Stephen Miller. the man who is the architect for this entire campaign and the man who said that ICE had to arrest 3,000 people a day, which is the reason why they have so many dofuss ass goons out there, like not knowing what the fuck to do because they have to reach these quotas. So he had no seat at the table, and I think that's a good indication at a minimum that his input is no longer wanted as they try to navigate for them, the optics mess. That is what's happening with the ice rate. was like, I actually can't make that time. Well, I kind of interpreted as that more. So honestly, like, like, well, let's rest him. Like, let's keep him out of the light for a minute.

Like, put him on the bench and then, you know, the same way they're moving Greg Bovino. It's like, it feels like a panic move. Yeah, I think with this, I think the meeting, it seems like was really to talk about that. And it was just sort of like, because for sure from a like a public facing thing, they're definitely be like, we're not going to have you screaming that people are assassins anymore. because that didn't go well. But I think a lot of people are saying, like, tactically, because him and Gnome or have been at such loggerheads,

it's now coming to, like, really ahead now. Because there's recently, she told Axios, a lot of like the fallout has been, first of all, Miller has been blaming Gnome for the shit show in Minnesota. But a lot of the bickering stems over Miller's stupid lie about how Pretty was a would-be assassin, attempting to massacre agents. And that language was echoed by Nome

because it was distributed throughout the administration, like, all right, these are our talking points and others. And that just made them like the regime look worse. So in that meeting, apparently, she made it pretty clear to the president and the press that like every good Nazi, she's just following orders. This is what she said to Axios, quote, everything I've done,

I've done at the direction of the president and Stephen. Damn. Which you're like, oh, we're at the, we're fully, fully just finger pointing now. It's like, I know I run DHS because, I mean, it's true. Stephen Miller has, he has, he's, he is at this point Trump's most powerful aid. So, you know, like, so he is dictating to a lot of people, really what their marching orders should be.

So I think she's like, I don't know, this was Stephen's idea. And I'm totally unqualified. I'm mostly into killing dogs. So I'm out of my wheelhouse here. And this is all on him. And I think what's also remarkable is like, even Miller's tried to like walk back the language here because he went from would be assassin. And to now actually admitting he's like, the agents may not have followed protocol on this one.

Yeah, no shit. The fact that they're all just admitting the L on this one, like as much as they can is pretty surprising. And just a testament to how completely fucking vile and evil what happened was. It completely is. But what I find confusing is that then the continual pivot still to another story instead of just taking the L, it's like, well, you shouldn't have had a gun.

I'm like, you're saying that to your, your people? Yeah. Right. What's going on? Because it's like half of it is sort of like, well, we need to officially stabilize the situation with our like sort of mealy mouth like unity message or whatever. That's such a good term for a mealy mouth. But their like instincts are to double down and always be defensive.

So you get those moments where people like, what do you think about this? Even though you said this guy wasn't bad. Trump's like, nobody should have a gun. Nobody's allowed to bring guns. And you're like, okay, well, what? because again, it's so reflective for him. There's no thought put into anything he's saying. Was Stephen Miller's theory of the case on his whole life,

like heading into this administration? Because he's been just hated everywhere. His entire life. His entire life. Since Santa Monica High School. His high school hated him. Did you guys talk to Charles Gould about that? No, I don't think so.

Charles Gould, the comedian, I remember ages ago, went to high school with him and was, like, talking about, like, from firsthand experience. Like, this guy was seen. wild story. Like he would run for an office at his high school and say just shit that would get him booed out of the cafeteria. Like everything except for like when he found a small group of people, did he just think the rest of the world turned into that small group of people? Like, and that this was where like he just doesn't give a fuck. Yeah, I think he's so blinded by his hatred that he only knows one speed.

And like we've always talked about it. I was like, this guy's speed running the Third Reich. Like, in a way that even it, like, for humans, like, people, like, it's happening so fast that still most Americans, like, well, you can't do that. Right. Where he thinks, he's like, well, we got all these votes for immigration. And they know how gnarly we talk about immigrants that they'll certainly not resist too much when they see these people being brutalized. Because a lot of the things, the value that potentially he offers Trump is that he helps Trump understand the base. more. So he gives, so he's the one being like, we got to go harder on Nazi. Like, you know, all that

rhetoric comes from Stephen Miller. And I think that's just such a misread from him just generally on how the world works. And so you get this like fucked up version of, you know, what's happening. It's a mystery. But I also think like I, it's like classic, like if you've done any like learning, especially in this day and age, anybody has on like narcissism. I think anyone who's narcissistic victim, I always say like sense is very seductive. Like we try and make sense of, why someone did something. We try and like uncover the confusion, right? And we're mass abused by narcissism and sociopathy and psychopathy or whatever.

But like, yeah, yeah. I think trying to make sense of it is where a lot of people stay stuck. And they're like, but why is he, but does he? And it's like, it's bad.

It's evil. Like they're actually, the sense is so. They're broken people. Yeah. Period. And we don't actually need to find a reason at one point or the point they turned from Anakin to Darth.

Like we just actually, it's just bad. Yeah, yeah, for sure. He's just been like, it would be like if in the Phantom Menace, Darth Vader was just a tiny Darth Vader. Like, you know, who was just like force choking, force choking his mom and shit. And occasionally being like, I was a boy too.

Right. Yeah, exactly. But he's like, hey, look out. What about that Wado guy, huh? Yeah. Keep your eye on him, huh? Yeah, like, it is. It's so true that like my brain is poisoned by narrative.

And I'm just like, you know, it's supposed to be a thing where like the person starts out, like you can't tell if they're good or bad, and then they, like, slowly get seduced by the dark side. And this person who's just been both bad and wildly unpopular everywhere he's gone, just like being booed relentlessly since he was in kindergarten, like, that he has, like, suddenly been like, well, this, I think this one will be popular. I think I got this one. But that's, yeah, he's just a broken person. He's a broken person who's a broken person who's, unfortunately, has a very powerful. powerful seat in government.

And I think that's the one thing is he just, he just wants to cause as much pain as possible. I don't think there's really outside of that. That's what he's drawn to. And I mean, to look at his background too, everyone's like, this guy's Jewish and he hangs around a bunch of anti-Semites

and like likes to use, like rhetorically speak like a Nazi, that he's really focused on one thing. It's just like, like even my, my community, whatever be damned. Like I'm so.

drawn by this thing of causing others pain, that that's the one consistent to me, which again is like, yeah, you're fucking broken. Right. Oh, this is the other thing. Yeah. I like this. So the co-founder of Latinos for Trump. Yeah.

Ileana Garcia. Yeah. Has also decided to say fuck Stephen Miller. Yeah. She's come out and said that the GOP is going to, she's like, Mr. President, you will lose the midterms because of Stephen. Miller because of like you listening to this guy, it's making everything worse, which I think is convenient as if it's, it all begins and ends with Stephen Miller.

But sure. That all, sure. It seems like a lot of, a lot of conservatives are like turning on Stephen Miller, but or gnome. Yeah. The detail here that I love so much. This is Miles. This is what we have suspected from the very first time we saw Katie Miller on that, that

Jesse Waters interview. Yeah. Where he was like, uh, your husband, the sexual matador. and then they laughed for 45 seconds. Like they, like it was an inside joke between them. And like they were fucking. Like you just get the sense that she has no respect.

Like, oh yeah, it felt it was like, oh, the sexual matador. Yeah, the sexual matador. And then they both started laughing so hard. I was like,

she does not fuck with her husband. Like she does because she's a psychopath, like narcissist who's just trying to get power. But she, at some point, thinks he's a ridiculous human, which he is. This is so, yeah. Yeah.

The thing with Ileana Garcia is she used to work at DHS and she was Kirsten Nielsen's spokesperson in the first administration. And Katie Miller also worked at DHS too. So there's like talk about how they had a fucking beef at DHS during the first administration when they both worked there. So when, when Ileana Garcia posted this like, you're going to lose because Stephen Miller, Katie Miller on Twitter said, Ileano was fired from DHS in Trump's first term because she failed to show up to work.

This is what Ileana Garcia clapped back with at Katie Miller. Invite me to your podcast so we can have a candid discussion about what truly transpired and how you labeled your then boyfriend a racist when you were upset that he treated you poorly. And me as a mere token Hispanic for the administration, let's discuss who was responsible for the leaks in the White House and how you helped carve the floor out from under then-Secretary Kirsten Nielsen, which was a huge, having Kirsten-Nielsen's power be diminished with a big, win for Stephen Miller because Stephen Miller was like, Nielsen isn't being inhumane enough.

That's always his line. He's like, none of these people know how to be inhumane. And her getting out added a little, gave him a little more cachet to give his input on the immigration policy. So like, it's all very connected. But she's like, yeah, you even know your man's a racist, right? Isn't that the whole fucking thing? Do we think this has impact?

No, I think this is just mess around it. Like I think, like, yeah, it's very bravo. I think this is just all to say that I think that even the other, like, people who are in orbit of the administration sense that this could be an opportunity to bring down Stephen Miller's power for their own benefit. I don't think functionally it does nothing because at the end of the day, Trump isn't, even with all this, I don't see any reality, version of reality where Stephen Miller is ousted. That's just, that's not on my bingo card.

Yeah. Yeah. It just feels like they are now, after being a united front of like, this is what we're doing, get fucked if you want to push back against us. They're now like turning on each other. I do think that one of the hopes that we have is how wildly incompetent the administration is. There's at least many of the people inside the administration are and that that incompetence will outpace what their hope is. to accomplish is like, I guess, one one potential light at the end of the end. Yeah, because we shouldn't make no mistake about it. The situation on the ground hasn't changed at all, you know, in Minnesota or anywhere else. So for all the headlines of Bovino getting punted back to California and Holman coming in and Nome and this and all that, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the campaign to kidnap people is still continuing. But I think the one thing, I think is more just

sort of seeing that there's a version of the administration where they just kept going harder and harder like last summer into Chicago and these other places and people like, what the fuck is going on? And they just were blankfaced about it and kept moving forward. That because of what happened in Minnesota, that this is the first time you're seeing the administration trying to even manage it versus them not. And I think that that's just sort of a glimmer that of some optimism that the resistance actually can lead to something. Them even having to be like, oh, shit, okay, this looks bad. It's not going to change us, but it's something.

But it makes me uncomfortable because my sister is in Minneapolis and she's like very involved. And I have a few good friends there. And they say the thing that a lot of times they're missing is good journalism. They're like good reporting. Yeah. Because prior to this, I think even currently, is it core civic or civic core, the private prison there? Yeah. It's still the prairie correctional facility is still having workers.

They're spending millions right now to fix it up because it was close since 2010, I want to say. And so they didn't even do. get a bid from ice but are currently working to fix it up, which is like, I think it's, you know, 2000 or something that they can hold privately. And they're not stopping that building that infrastructure. Yeah. They don't seem to be stopping much on the ground, does Miles point out. Like, it's, they're continuing business as usual. It does seem like there's some confusion at the top of like how we message this. Yeah, exactly. It's just like the first time we've seen them fucking blink at all, you know? Yeah. True. But yeah, like to that, but, but, but exactly to your point. Like, it's, it is, it's the, the, the song isn't changing. You know what I mean? Like, they're just like, fuck, man, maybe we just need to do it in a different style that doesn't outwardly cause this much resistance. Because I think that's what they're all so fearful of is like, it's really strengthening the resolve of people to really resist everything that's happening. And they're like, well, shit, if there's a version that this can happen quietly,

We'll maybe deal with a less engaged population that might allow it to happen if we do the homing method of like try and be real, like low friction about it. But again, still have the same quotas and still be going after people. But yeah, we'll see what where they end up because I mean like, yeah, like you say, the rhetoric goes from one thing to another just based on Trump. And now like I think the other thing too is even with these people moving around, there's a lot of articles being like, even the gun rights groups are against them.

It's like, well, sure, they might not like that, but they might just say that, but they're not functionally pushing back. Yes, no, not financially for sure. And I think that there is probably a level to, like even us talking about it, where I am desperate to find some green shoots of hope that are emerging.

Yeah. Because it is true, like they are fully engaged in an illegal campaign against the entire population. of the United States. And I think there is something to like not getting too on like the cope part of it where we're like, well, they did this and they changed that and they did this, but still staying focused that their that their goal has not changed. But what we have seen is that the resistance from people and the coordination and the mutual aid groups and observers, all of that certainly has an effect. And I think there's something to be, you know, we have

to take, you know, take our wins where we can get. Exactly what you're talking about. I think exactly why all these things happen in Minneapolis, because Minneapolis is really good at sustained community work. Sustained like your ability to constantly contribute versus in moments of big crisis. And so I think to your point, like some people are going from one end to the other of like bleak to needing hope, but it's exactly finding shoots like mini growths on the way so you can sustain it continuously. Yeah. They try. It was the wrong test kitchen for this ice takeover. It's like every city.

Yeah. Well, and then they're also, they're like, these people like, like, like, like, Bain, it's like, dude, we were born in the fucking ice, dude. Yeah. You fucking, you're playing in it. And look at your asses busting. And like, you think we're not, we're not going to come out in the streets. Like, we live here on purpose. It's remarkable.

I feel like California people don't really understand going out in negative. 20, like your blood feels like it's going to freeze. Yeah. Any orifice with a modicum of moisture on it, you will begin to feel, start freezing over and hardening. Yeah. I went outside in a coat at 7 a.m. on Sunday morning and stood outside for an hour. And I was cold the whole fucking day in Los Angeles.

Your basil temperature never got back. It was in the 40s. It got in your bones. It was in my bones. I was like, this is unnatural. I don't know if I'll recal. I'm still not recop. My court, I'm still drinking hot water every morning.

Oh, no. Yeah. But that, yeah, my constitution's not built for it. Just like the U.S. My constitution's not built for it. Hey, that ruled. I have to be honest. I sound facetious right now, but I feel like that rule.

Hey, thank you so much. Throw it on a tea. I got one back after the Edo thing. Man, I was sitting on that Edo thing. I was like, you were sweating. Why don't you see Moe's reaction to this Edo joke? I'm sorry, what'd you say? Can we take it back?

I don't know what the fuck you were talking about. Select this. Just run the right back. Just so your extra. I'm pressed. I've used that Edo thing on multiple episodes. Has anyone said anything? I, I,

Miles let it pass and I was like, I'm going to see. I need to, I need to at least know. No, I definitely, I acknowledge Judge Lansito. Yeah. The first time he did it. As somebody who owned the like the, like the, uh, satirical OJ's legal sketchpad book from the trial. Yes.

Yeah. Oh my God. I had a fucking book that was like a yellow legal pad because everyone was like, what's OJ writing on there? And it was just a bunch of wild dumb jokes. But Miles, right now you're saying is you're unable to hold Jack accountable because you were just like him. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's what this whole show is. It's us gasping each other up. It's called encouraging each other to death. That's beautiful. That's life. Let's take a quick break, and we'll talk about a quick story about things to not be optimistic about with regards to the fascist takeover. And that is the participation of oligarchs. And then we might have time to get to CBS News. We'll be right back. The Volkswagen Beetle started out as Hitler's dream car.

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That's been a lot of different places. The mainstream media like CNN has been very careful about how they talk about this. Drawing a circumstantial connection between their efforts to make videos about ICE, and the difficulties they had posting them over the weekend. So they were like, this is circumstantial. We don't have any proof. And it's really impossible to test it. Yeah, it's like they wrote it.

It's like they wrote that paragraph with their hands up. Like someone has a gun on it. And you know, we're just drawing circumstances. You're not trying to say anything here. Just go ahead. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Like NPR was a little bit more like TikTok says they're looking into why many users

have been unable to send the word Epstein and direct messages. So they're at least saying. it's happening. What is it litigious? What are they citing as their inability are they like to actually say what is happening regardless of its intent or whatever?

You know what I mean? Or like the intention behind it. I guess they don't even want to allege that they're engaging in censorship like that. Right. If they're really being like, you're talking about why is TikTok saying that? No, why are like, why is CNN? Why is CNN being so

like middle of the road? Because that's like, that's what the all. The oligarchs have told them, that's what their oligarch leaders have told them, is the thing that they're missing is that they need to be more middle of the road. They need to do, you know, you saw how Kamala Harris ran to the right and how well that went. Well, they were like, that. That's what we need to do. We need to, instead of giving people what they want, we give people what they want from other people.

And then we're for no one. Yeah. Yeah. The idea that this, there's no way to know. Like they literally, in this CNN article, shucks. And really there's no way to know because the, the, um, fucking, I cannot think of the word. The algorithm is behind. Yeah.

Because the algorithm is a black box. So we'll never know. And it's like, maybe you just try DMing the word Epstein to something. Like try that. It's also like we literally have been given our algorithms on Instagram. It isn't a black box. Like you can look at an individual. Yeah.

I just like how when they're talked, when they're asked about it, like a spokesperson for TikTok just goes, well, we don't have rules against sharing the name Epstein and direct messages. So we're investigating why some, that's weird. We don't have rules about that.

That's crazy. So just so you know, officially we don't have rules about that. But behind the scenes, there might be some filters being set up. Yeah, This all feels very reminiscent of the time TikTok was seemingly blocking users from writing free Palestine when the app returned after being taken offline in the U.S. Remember, like the app went away, came back, and suddenly people couldn't write free Palestine.

So this is the wild-ass journalism that CNN hasn't thought of. The people at 404 Media, great site, were like, I tried this myself on Tuesday morning using two different throwaway TikTok accounts. Using one account, I could comment free Palestine without a problem, and that comment is still up as of Wednesday morning. Using another, my free Palestine comments were immediately removed repeatedly, and I received a notification that I had violated the TikTok community guidelines. I could comment with a nonsense phrase, free shavacado. Free chavacadoo. Hell yeah. Yeah. Using that same account, however, and TikTok didn't remove it.

So I feel like that was pretty straightforward. I think we did the experiment that CNN. CNN seemed to think was impossible. And back then, you'll never get... But then they'd have to write that, Jack. That's the thing. Back then, you'll never guess what TikTok's excuse was for why the thing was magically eating posts

that said free Palestine and kicking those people off. Temporary instability. Hmm. And that's not true. Oh, exactly the same thing? That's not true. Temporary instability. Oh, the exact same excuse.

This, do you guys watch Vanderpump Rules? Only the first couple seasons. I'm aware of it. Like CNN, all these people reporting reminds me of like Jacks Taylor admitting to cheating. He's like there's actually no way to know if I did if it was existing. However, those women I don't, it's like none of it. And you're like, we could just ask.

Oh, you could tell us. You could tell us. Yeah, you could say no way to remember in your brain having experienced. I couldn't speak from nobody's perspective. Was that something that happened? Yeah. There's actually no way for you to know if I'm telling the truth or not. So.

stability was temporarily unstable, so therefore a conclusion could be drawn whereas the Asian countries such as and therefore and never given it. Maybe someone just accidentally bumped the switches

that turn on and off ice and Epstein like the nuclear that went to Hawaii. Power outage and temporary instability causes them to ban accounts. I mean, people, it's funny because I was looking at the TikTok subreddit to see, because a lot of like the people on there, I don't know how much they represent sort of like all users, but they're all like, we're getting the fuck off this. I'm on red cent. I'm on fucking upscroll. They're all like leaving. I don't know if it still seems like that's that's still a minority of people. But at the very least, this should show you like, you know, guys, this is how like oligarchy works. You know, like they can they're trying to control the entire. conversation around things like the Epstein files, which implicate a lot of oligarchs and just

terribly powerful people, not to mention the genocide that's happening, not to mention talking about the current legal crisis, constitutional crisis that's happening in this country. They're just trying to mute any kind of thing where people are going to exchange ideas and begin to be like, that's right. Holy shit. Oh, my God, let me put the pieces together. Or let me go further in my education to understand what the forces are that are affecting my day-to-day, even my little app where I was just watching hamsters make little pancakes. But, you know, this is the state of things. TikTok is being controlled by a group that involves the Ellisons.

Yeah. Who, you know, are Trump's close, close advisors and who he. Own CBS now? Yeah. You know what I mean? Has made it possible for them to become incredibly and illegally powerful when it comes to the media landscape. So, yeah, spike and downloads for TikTok alternatives and 150%

an increase in TikTok uninstalls. And people are also pointing out that TikTok terms now include, you know, the right to, I think they want to have the right to know what your immigration status is and sexual orientation, which is not uncommon for social media networks, apparently, but still, I think it's a change from before, which that's probably not good. And people are also pointing out, like, there's, this is going. around. So this week it was reported that meta has been blocking users from sharing links to the ICE list, which is a website that compiled the names of what it claims are Department of Homeland Security employees. And Amazon is very involved in powering a lot of the ICE operations. Computing services. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, that, yeah, I read the thing about the cloud. Yeah. Yeah. Seems as bad. Apple also removed the ice tracking. Deiacer last fall, which...

Oh, yeah, and Tim Cook. Tim Cook is out there just deep throat in the boot at every opportunity. He's like, oh, my God, I love Melania, the movie. He went to the Malania. Private screening. Private screening. But he might just be a fan of cinema. You never know.

He's a fan of making money. Yeah, that's... I wish we got to that story because the Melania thing is funny, because it actually does connect to the Stephen Miller thing. Let's do it. I came into today, Miles. I said, today I'm making the editorial decision. We're not going to cover the Melania documentary because we've covered it for like five days running. Because it's not even a movie. It sums up how backwards everything is. You have an oligarch paying $40 million for the licensing rights to a documentary directed by a sex crim. Okay. And then throwing another $35 million in marketing. So this fucker costs $7.000. $75 million to try and prop up the image of the first lady who they're trying to make like the soft face of fascism. It has everything.

Sex cream, by the way, is going to be a vocal stand like sex cream. Oh, sex cream. Yeah. Shout of Jamie Loftus for that one. Yeah. Early days. That's an early loss. From the recurring segment we had at the time called Mengazi.

That's great bad. The Me Too movement. Shout out to Zite Gang. That was his Ikeen creation. That was like a guy. But yeah, she is still from. promoting the documentary by opening the New York Stock Exchange for all those all those movie fans who work on the trading floor on Wall Street. You know what it is. It's the only places that'll have her. Yes, exactly. Because Jordan Belford invited, I'm sure.

Yeah, original Wolf of Wall Street. That shit is so fucking stupid. Like, it is also like, it's either going to save us or like, or take him down. Because it's that classic sort of story of like, and his temperamental wife actually, like, kill him. them in his sleep. And it's like, why? It's so ridiculous. It's so fucking stupid. But I'm pretty sure that doesn't happen in the documentary. I would watch if that was what happened to the documentary. Yeah, yeah. But I don't think. She's a cold bloodic killer. I think that's in there, but. If it was like an unauthorized documentary that was just, you know, like we got a queen

of Versailles style. Like you look inside the house and like you just saw how dysfunctional their relationship was. And like the like the only time they interact is like on a fucking outlook calendar of like appearances. Except for invitation. Yeah. Yeah, where she has to like consult her lawyers consult her contract in order to decide if she has to go to any of these meetings.

What about that log line or the tagline for it on the poster? Yeah, yeah. So, Chea was pointing out that the poster that everybody's seen because they only made one has the tagline, a new film. No, this is real. Hey, hey, that's so real. A new film, first of all.

Swish. It's giving Be better or do better. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Be best. Be best. Be best. A new film, Melania. Speaking of Be best, I will say she's missing an opportunity because she loves to plagiarize women who are like in similar positions, you know, the former first lady Michelle Obama. But with the Be Best speech, I think she really fucked up by her.

her popcorn bucket, which we talked about, which is just the, a new film movie poster, around a tin popcorn bucket. There is a Megan 2.0, M.3gan 2.0 bucket that is like M.3gan's head. And I'm just saying like,

oh, just paint Melania's face on there? Yeah, just paint, she already looks like that shit. Like, you just change the, what's on her neck to being like, whatever the fucking lie wears. She's smart enough. I think her jaw unhinged.

I feel like. bro, she's smart enough to be like, that's going to open the door to countless memes, and I will not have it. And that's true, man. If you had a thing to crack open the head and do, yeah, that's not going to happen. But the thing, the reason why I really wanted to bring this up is because Michael Wolf, the guy who wrote Fire and Fury, he's saying that one of the reasons why potentially Trump could be rethinking the deportation campaign is because Melania was, quote, pissed off that

the ICE murders has taken the attention away from her movie. What in the Dudley-Durzley? Like, like, 37, last year. Like so wild. Because also, like, it's just so funny to see how the truth social account for Trump is just spamming promo for the movie, too. When it's like, I don't know. She's like, you must post about it more done.

And he's like, fine, I don't know. No one gives a fuck. Yeah, like just sort of, you know, trying to hype it up to the base. But again, ticket sales in major blue cities look abysmal as we looked on the AMC apps and regal cinema apps. They're going to buy out theaters. Like they have unlimited money at this point because of the oligarchy. They're going to buy out the tickets. I just our citizen journalists need to be ready to show that the theaters are actually empty.

Right, to go there and be like, I don't know. This is this is a sole. This was a sold-out show. I'm looking on my, here it is. There are no tickets, and it's just me. If somebody wants to write, like, a new-ish film, I will play Melania, and we can redo it all, but truthfully, shot for shot. For real. That's got to be such an intro.

Like, it would be, like, have you ever seen Dogtooth the first, like, your ghost left? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like, I feel like that must be what her life is like, you know, inside the White House. Anyways. Oh, man. A true pleasure having you on the Daily Zikeyes. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff?

People can find, they can listen to my podcast. We're seeing you with Mo Fry Passick. We're working on season four now. It's about people's creative process that is less tangible, less morning pages, more that flower you saw when you were six that has inspired you to do your comedy now, whatever it is with funny people. And I love it. And you could also follow me on Instagram at at Mo

MA-E-A-U-X-P-A-S and great handle. Thank you. Oh, yeah. Well done. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Traders. I love it. Do you watch traders?

I really got to watch traders, don't know. It's, I actually, I really mean this. I think it's the best reality television there's been, I mean, I thought this last season, but that there's been in decades. Like, it's so, it's so meta. It's people performing identity. versus self versus another identity of traitor or faithful. It is people, it's Infinity War crossover.

You're seeing people from certain franchises interact with other franchises, and you're going, you two together? It's so amazing. Yeah, that's, that is what I've heard. That is the best sales pitch I've gotten on it so far. I just need three more incredible sales pitches like that. What's the reticence? Just the, I never have.

He just has to reach critical mass, I think, of people. I'm the same way. I just need, because I love reality television and everyone's like, how the fuck are you not watching traitors? What's your big show? What's the one people are like, oh, Miles loves that? Oh, 90-day fiancé. Oh, sure. Okay.

And also, most of like the first seven years of Real Housewives I've watched, most of below deck I've seen. I've watched a lot of it. You don't love traders. What are you talking about? I know, exactly. This is the exact conversation I have. I don't even watch Housewives that I love it. Yeah, yeah.

I think it's like one of these things when something feels so potent, I start getting afraid of it. And I'm like, oh, my God, dude. And then you watch and you're like, this shit is actually dope. No, there's a pressure. It's weird, yeah. Like, we say being in love. Yeah. I'm afraid of falling in love with traitors.

Wow. Wow. That was such an avoided answer. Yeah. It starts to love you and then there's pressure to be good. What if I'm my dad, though? What if I leave? Yeah.

Miles, where can people find you as their work of media that you've been enjoying? Yeah. Find me everywhere. Miles of Gray. Again, find me talking about 90-day fiancé on 420-day fiancé and find me talking about one of my favorite sports soccer on Ain't It Footy with Jamel Johnson and Chris Martin. Also, again, we're approaching 2,000 episodes of our main show. So please check out the footnotes. Check that out. But please check out the Google Forum because we want to hear from you, all the listeners. What's been your favorite memory from the first 2,000 episodes? Help us remember because

What's your favorite memory from the next 2,000 episodes? Some predicties. Make something up. I just realized that we told, we gave our listeners on this morning's trending some homework to talk about, or sorry, yesterday afternoon's trending to talk the, to watch the Chuckie Cheese Wrap. And then we, I didn't end up writing that story. So that one's going to be coming tomorrow. Sorry about that. You're lucky, guys.

The quiz, I had to postpone it. Had to postpone the quiz. That's a good feeling. Yeah, postpone the quiz. No, you're good. You're good. You're good. Yes, that's me. Oh, a work of media.

A lot of people are pointing to this Barack Obama tweet because it's such a dark time. I'm like, what Barack Obama? Like, does Barack Obama have something to say? And this is what he posted on Wednesday morning. It said, more and more Americans are voicing their outrage at the tactics being deployed by federal agents in Minnesota. But it's important to understand the broader implications of what this administration is doing and the threat it poses to the basic freedoms.

of every American, and it was like a thread next tweet. Here's a podcast that does a good job of laying out what's at stake and why all of us need and everyone was like, a podcast? Is it him and Bruce Springsteen? Yeah, yeah. But at least Bruce Springsteen put out a fucking song. You know what I mean? Springsteen was like, yo, I fucking went in the studio Saturday, mixed this shit.

He has a new song out now. Yeah, Bruce Springsteen recorded a brand new song. He's a real deal, man. Like for like Minneapolis. And then everyone is doing like, it's like the drowning hand, like, high five me where the person's like, the hands going down and a hand comes in and just high fives you. And it's like, here's a podcast. It's a classic. Yeah. So what is the podcast?

It was, no, it was some other creator. It was like, I think it was a pretty, yeah, it's a diary of a CEO. No, I think it was just some. Superman thing about self-optimization. I think it was probably an earnest like clip where someone is articulating that. Like, I don't think it's that. It's more just like, sir, you have a bigger platform. He loves recommending media.

He would come on this podcast and just try and do a 45 minute. What's the media you've been enjoying? Yeah, yeah. Well, what about the drone strikes, Mr. Pratt? Well, you know what I like a lot? The NBA All-Star game. I'm like, what the fuck, dude? Answer.

Kendrick. Also, working media, oh, man, just getting into heated rivalry. Oh, you're in? Deeper and deeper. Oh, yeah, baby. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I just love the way.

when they're like having sex, they're doing it like bros or they're like, oh, fuck, Hollander, like using your last name, like you're really on a sports team. Like it's always your last name. You know, like, they're like, yo, what's up? Hollander? It's like, oh, fuck, Rosenhoff. And I'm like, yo. Are you serious?

This is a pitch for me because I'm having the traders experience with heat of rivalry. Oh, yeah. No, no. I'm like hockey and nice butt. Okay. Let's see. Let's see. Although her majesty is always like, she's like, your ass don't look like that.

And I'm like, I know. I know. I know. Yeah. I know nobody's does. Nobody's does. Okay? Yeah.

These butts are getting more and more unrealistic. I'll tell you about. Are they? For a world where we're sitting around. Yeah. Perfect butts. My ass is African podcasting. Yeah.

One is going to show a podcaster's flat ass on there. Podcast. You know what I mean? Podcast. I got podcast. Yeah. Podcast. But it's funny.

I was saying that her match is like, you know, like this isn't written for like guys who play sports or anything, right? I'm like, I know. I know. I know. I was like,

I just think like, Why can't he call him Shane, you know? Right. Or Ilya. My brother-in-law is former NHL, and it's so funny because I asked him, I was like, okay, a hockey show. Like, what do you think he was? I don't think it's about hockey. It's all he said.

I love it. I don't think it's about hockey. Not really. That's just the texture mapped on. It's about their push-pull. But the push-pull relationship. Work of media, I've been enjoying. First, I am going to link off to the Chucky Cheese song.

somebody said, I met Chuck E. Cheese for the first time in a very long time. And they've got Chuck rapping like Lynn Manuel Miranda. And you just have to hear it to believe it. So I'm going to link off to that in the footnotes. And I really liked this tweet by Dan Devine for anybody who's ever lived in New York and gotten to listen to the local broadcast of the New York Knicks and heard Clyde Frazier do a game. This is an actual quote for Dan Devine tweeted, good omnipotence by towns says Clyde calmly and matter-of-factly assigning to the Knicks All-Star Center limitless and absolute power

over all creation but he just loves using big words and he's so I love that so good at it he's really one of the you can like they need to have the Clyde feed on all national national games did they work? Do the words work or is he just using him?

I mean he's like like, you know, saying he can see the future, but, you know, in a tongue-in-cheek way, but the way he does it is just, it's next level. Yeah, the words usually work. There's a whole lore around him, too, like his book about being cool. Yeah, there's a book about being cool where, like, I saw an interview with him. This is when I lived in New York, and they just one of, my first experience with hardcore propaganda is that they have, two channels. One is a Yankees channel and the other is a Knicks channel, MSG. And like,

you're just watching things that are just about like every Yankees win, every Knicks win. And they have one that was interviewing him and he was like talking about in the 70s. I was just cool. Like, I could go into a room, catch a fly, shake it in my hand and release it. And that was just like, and if you were like, damn, is that Clyde Frazier? I wrote a book about how to be cool and I taught people how to do that. And I was like, man, I don't think anyone. I think you have like supernaturally fast hands. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I've never been able to like just calmly catch a fly in my hand, shake it around and release it. But as the litmus for cool, that's, oh, it's so weird. It's so weird. It's like wanted. Remember when it was like bend the bullet and get the thing? It's more than that. In the book, it was a diagram. Yeah, yeah.

Wait, really? Yes. Catch. The claw is crazy. He says wrong for. He's like, hold on. He said like, to claw it is bad. You want to side swipe it.

That's the right form. It's a comic book font. Yeah, I know. If these muscles are flex hard enough, they will automatically release just before tendon separates from bone. Since complete concentration has been on the fly, his capture is a matter of course. That's actually erotic. I'm okay with that. I know.

Yeah. Bring flexer and extend. extensor muscles to spring like tension. Fuck, Hollander. Fuck. Extensor muscles? Fuck, Hollander.

Yeah, okay, he's cool. Fuck, Frazier. He is very cool. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien, Blue Sky, Jack O, B, the number one, Instagram, Jack underscore O underscore Brian. You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zekechkeist. We're at the Daily Zekechkeist on Instagram. You can go to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it,

and there at the bottom you will find the footnotes. Which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. So link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles is there a song that you think that people might enjoy it. Yeah, this is a Nigerian duo from like the 70s that we've gone out on before the Lijadu sisters. This is like years ago. There was a track called Life's Gone Down Low that we went out of. This is from the same album.

This track's called Danger. And they're just, they're super dope. They're like these sisters who are making like Afro beat kind of disco-inspired songs, like pretty prolific output. But this track's really dope too. It's called Danger. by the Li Jadu sisters, L-I-J-A-D-U. All right, we will link off to that one in the footnotes.

Can I also give one shout out to a musician? There is a musician in the city, in the Twin Cities in Minneapolis, who was a wonderful artist that was, I believe, arrested or like tear gas this weekend called Nerdy, N-U-R-D-D, and if we could go give some streams, that would be heavenly. Hell yeah, okay, let that on the list.

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