The Daily Zeitgeist - No Country For Old Trends 1/10: Josh Wine, Double Big Mac, Judge Judy, Saltburn, Trump

Episode Date: January 10, 2024

In this edition of No Country For Old Trends, Jack and Miles discuss... Josh Wines - just for being named Josh, the return of the Double Big Mac, Judge Judy endorsing Nikki Haley, the 'Saltburn' memes, and Trump not being "expected" to speak during closing arguments in his NY civil fraud trial!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Jesse Jericho, who let us know on the Discord. My wife, Hannah, asked me to submit this short show title on her behalf know on the Discord. My wife, Hannah, asked me to submit this short show title on her behalf based on the episode about how America is indeed no country for old trends.

I'm Jack. That is Miles. These are some of the things that are trending today. We're going to get into the tunnels tomorrow. If you showed up here looking for the tunnels... We got tunnel talk. Don't worry.

It's a new segment. We got tunnel talk coming your way on tomorrow's episode. Of all kinds of tunnels. We break down the hottest tunnels on the internet right now. It's not just the one in Brooklyn, y'all. We're a huge fan. We take it around the world. Yeah.

Yeah. I didn't dig it, but there's so many movies based around tunnels. That movie Tunnels? Tunnels. Wait, is that a movie? I just said that. That movie Tunnels. The Tunnel. Goonies.

Batman. The last one. Dark Knight Rises. What was that one with Sylvester Stallone? Daylight? Daylight. Wasn't that about people getting trapped in a tunnel? Yeah, they were trapped in a tunnel, bro. That don't I did no I don't like that one though the idea of being fucking caught in a tunnel is actually my nope we are tunnel people though

we're we're tunnel fans um we'll we'll get into it a little bit more we'll dig into it a little more folks uh but he's done it we're talking uh the other thing that's taken taken twitter specifically by storm josh wine are you familiar with fuck i know i always laugh when i like whenever i'm not a wine drinker but her majesty is like oh get like a like a whatever like 12 bottle or something and i'm always like i'm gonna get josh because this shit called Josh. Cause it's called. Yeah,

exactly. The only reason that's pretty straightforward. And that's why it's going viral. Like I tried to Google it. I like when you Google it on the like news tab of Google, like the latest stories that are like a Forbes article from Thanksgiving, like recommending it as a good cheap wine like that. Nobody's really covering it. It has no reason to be popular other than it's a good cheap wine like that nobody's really covering it it has no

reason to be popular other than it's a wine that is named josh uh people seem torn on whether it's good or bad wine um but one thing is unmistakable it is called josh uh and that is funny um i don't know why i think it's because everything's always like you know it's either have like some it's like in french or like some like some new fangled family sellers type thing and this shit is just called josh but it's and we respect it's hard to put your finger on like what it is because if it was joshua fine but that that wouldn't stand out to me at all joshua wine right i feel like there are certain names that belong just in a group of like these can't be like greg i feel like if there's greg wines that probably wouldn't work very well right no no greg i mean i guess ironically if it was

like cousin greg from, um, I think I Gregory fine. But Gregory is too much. Yeah. Yeah. Like what about Blake? Blake? I could see Blake easy.

Cause Blake can be a rich person's last name, you know? Um, all right. All right. Like then bill. Bill. Yeah. But I feel like you would have like an like an illustrated duck on the cover or something like that yeah um brian the editor has come through uh with a suggestion daryl which i think

probably is not good but it also reminds me of barrel which is yeah or daryl hannah like i just see daryl hannah on it too. Yeah. Daryl Hannah Wines. Yeah. That could work. Anyways, give us your best bad name for a wine. Yeah. That seems to be what the entire story is. I love it. I respect it. I think the

origin story of it, Super Producer Justin was saying that there's an ad where the guy's like, My dad's name was Josh. I remember his hands liked his hands he he worked with his hands so we're calling this josh wines which love a dad guy you know yeah founded as a tribute from son to father josh sellers makes well-balanced and delicious wines sourced from california's best growing regions wow gotta love it um anyways uh speaking like i feel like josh wines

might be the mcdonald's of wines is that is that the level i'm not a wine drinker obviously like is i'm not a wine i couldn't tell you the man i'm so far sorry sorry y'all i'm not that fucking classy so like a mid-tier fancy restaurant mcdonald's um is uh bringing back a fan favorite after four years the double big mac is coming back wait what's the double big mac you just double up the meat so there's four fucking patties in it my yes my pitch was double up the meats but double up the cheese too you don't want to fuck up that ratio. Yeah, yeah. That's the real dependency ratio we should be talking about. Thank you.

How many slices per patty? Does seem like that'll fuck up the ratio, and this is maybe just for people who really like a meaty burger. But this article in CNN has this quote, this quote which i think found interesting grabbed my attention unlike the previous version so i guess the previous version came out pre-covid nobody's claiming that it necessarily caused the pandemic right but nobody's claiming it didn't so yeah um the implications are very clear uh unlike the previous version, this double Big Mac highlights McDonald's overhaul of its core burger offerings,

which includes softer buns, adjusting its grill settings for a better sear and improving how the cheese melts. Big Macs in particular, getting more sauce. so they're basically pulling a dominoes. They're just like, all right, you guys, our food sucks.

Like, yeah, our food has been bad. You may have noticed. It's just, uh, I'm like, I'm just thinking of what, what their research was showing. They're like, man, people fucking hate that. The, the patties look like shit. Right. The cheese barely fucking melts. Right.

We gotta fucking do something. But I get the sear part because, yeah, like sometimes they just be, they look so fucking gray. You know what I'm saying? But I'll eat it because I'm a trash dwelling organism. I do have to assume that the sear on the burger has something to do with just like smoke flavor being added to the patties and not, and not that they're like, we've decided to flame broil all of these.

Yeah. Well, I think it's probably, it's cause it's, are probably now coming up against the smash burger fad. That's small. You know what I mean? And that's all about getting like a good sear.

You get the my art effect on there, you know, that really concentrates the flavors. Yeah. I said it. I fucking said my art. I don't know what that means with me. What is it?

Jack? Teach me miles. That's like, that's, that's the flavor like that you get get from searing meat. Ah, yeah. It's a Maillard reaction, I guess, technically. But yeah, that just brings up, it's a chemical reaction that just brings out just that little bit more flavor.

Got it. All right. Well, we'll see how this, softer buns, sure. I will take that. Sometimes the buns are a little bit crumbly a little bit uh feel like the bread's been left out too long um meltier cheese i am probably here for it but it does seem like something is happening chemically there like the cheese already was american cheese which has always seemed suspiciously melty to me right it's like well nothing should be this melty this is a uh

non-newtonian substance basically it's like somewhere between liquid and solid yeah but i don't know and then i think they're gonna add burger add uh add onions to the burgers while grilling so we'll we'll see how it works yeah they're trying to learn lessons from you know the the the real burger shacks that people like that serve real burgers and not you know like mcdonald's i'm saying mcdonald's don't try and do anything y'all your own thing it's a fucking weird mcdonald's burger and people at the same time when domino's did it we were all like man i can't believe they're admitting that oh actually this is better this is they actually really improved this. And they also still offered the old version.

For those who like our bad one, you can still get that. Ask for a shit Mac when you're at the drive-thru. Just a reminder for everyone that Judge Judy is the worst because Judge Judy came through, is making news thanks to her endorsement of Nikki Haley, who she claims can restore America

and is the future of this great nation. I think a lot of people are like, wait, what? But Judge Judy, we love her for some reason. We love your politics. Remember your 2020 pick for president? Mike Bloomberg, baby.

She was a big Bloomberg, uh, stumper. Uh, she also claimed that she would fight Bernie Sanders supporters to the death. Um, so good for her, the most perfect country in the world.

And those people that are trying to change it or revolutionize it don't have a chance because I'll fight them to the death was her response to the popularity of bernie sanders yeah yeah i like it she's like because i'll cape for this status quo till i fucking die you're like okay y'all please please nikki restore us but she's basically like been a monster yeah yeah yeah like. Before she became a TV star, she was a wildly controversial judge who was documented in a

1993 LA Times profile which made her a celebrity. And that profile was just like, she's so mean to poor people. Yeah. She's the wildest shit to poor people it's just wild too like how we were talking about shit in the 90s too like in that article said a young crack mother yes was like describing one of the people that was having a case being heard by judge jr like

yo la times what are we okay it's 88 in here uh but we're moving on and yeah i mean she's just saying wild shit but but like, can we stop her from populating half the planet? You're like, oh, okay. Oh, eugenics jokes, okay. Not a joke. She's like, I'm about it. And I'll fight you to the death over it. Yeah. I'm actually

pretty liberal, you know? I'm like a center liberal person. I think Clintonomics is great. Yeah, and we should sterilize people who I don't look like. Yeah. Calling expanded welfare programs that could actually help poor families a scam. Just, yeah. Received, she was like known for being, like legal experts were like,

she's needlessly cruel and like sarcastic while being needlessly cruel right um so i think that's what yeah that was just like the fun of that show though too like i just remember as a kid watching it it just falls into that genre of called like screaming at people reality show like whether that's gordon ramsey or her or like tabitha's salon takeover there was just a show where someone come in and be like just berate people and you're like bar rescue i'm rescuing you i'm rescuing you from dignity by calling you a moron you're like okay john taffer please damn sir yeah um but i mean also extremely wealthy uh she amassed a fortune worth an estimated 480 million dollars her show ended in 2021

but now she has a streaming show on amazon's freebie called judy justice okay um and it also is based on a literal hundred millionaire uh her routinely humiliating and attacking poor people yeah i mean they also like think about the practice of the show like there was like a thing where it was like revealed that the producers were talking about like we need less black people on the show and she's like i don't care yeah yeah do you i mean i'm not gonna say anything but wink wink wink okay i'm with, I'm with that. I'm Judge Judy. Yeah. But we loved her so much. We loved her yelling at people. The schadenfreude that that show inspired was truly something else.

But now, she completely fucking dicked over her former bailiff that was on the show. Her bailiff, yeah. She was like, sorry, we can't pay you. So, yeah. Which is wild that he had to call her he found out again through the news that it was some other person and he called her like wait is this for real and she's like look ain't no way we could pay you what's your you know what's your what's your custom too so i chose not to even call you um but yeah i think it's there's something

that people like you know america wants to believe it is a meritocracy. And so they can they can tune in and judge Judy and she will scream it for people and tell them they deserve to have had bad things happen to them. instead of the truth, which is that where you end up economically is more determined in the U.S. by how wealthy your parents are than most and race. Well, wealthy countries. So. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente and I I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts.

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I think I've seen the trend without knowing what the fuck is going on with Salt Burn, like on TikTok. Yeah, so it's the latest movie from the director who made Promising Young Woman, Emerald Fennell. And it's like a tale of class. It takes place in the UK. I have not seen it. tale of class takes place in the UK. Um, I have not seen it. I've heard decidedly mixed things about it.

Okay. But it seems similar to leave the world behind in that it was in theaters, kind of came and went. And then once it hit streaming, it has become a massive, uh, meme generation machine. The one thing I know about it, other than that it is by the director who made Promising Young Woman.

I guess this could be just a spoiler alert in case you're going to see Salt Burn. Spoiler alert for the movie and also for your lunch. Don't want to spoil your birthday. This is gross. So one of the characters, Barry Keegan, is that how you pronounce that guy? I'm terrible with Irish names.

Barry Kogan. There we go. Well, great actor from Banshees of Inishirin. He's also in the new season of Top Boy. Oh, hell yeah. He drinks cummy bath water in uh oh he has a grimace milkshake he has a grimace we call that a grimace milkshake around here folks um cummy bath water okay and so people

are i i don't think people are drinking cummy bath water but they're doing the reaction videos showing their faces as they watch the scene for the first time making videos where they recorded older family members reacting to the scene which in turn resulted in a

sort of counter response with a wave of videos of people being like that seems not even shocking okay i drink right come water all the time um just bath jack off juice um yeah jj jj uh people are selling jacob elordi's bath water scented candles on etsy um which is a clear reference to the come water. Is that a scent you want to fill your home with? Like if you're faithfully recreating that. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, again, whatever you want, but I'm just curious, are like, was someone in a lab and being like, okay,

we need this shit to smell like rotten cookie dough mixed with a ginkgo tree. Right. Um, and then there's a, I guess it takes place in the early 2000s and there's a bunch of 2000 songs that have received a surge in popularity uh such as murder on the dance floor um which actually charted thanks to the movie i love when shit like this brings old songs back like i didn't realize brenda leein' Around the Christmas Tree hadn't charted when it came out, but then hit number one for the first time. It's because of the Spotify

playlist, I'm sure, but it's always interesting. That's always got to be the thing when you have a music career that's kind of ended and you're hoping your catalog just gets swept up with something. Just give me that one hack, baby. Take me back. I can make $45. I need that kate bush effect get a double big mac but uh yeah and then people are also like i guess recreating the end of the movie um in which a character dances around a giant mansion

um so that's what i saw oh really people dancing around there i was like stupid palatial houses dude there were some of these fucking houses i'm like i don't know shit about what money is because i was like this is a museum i think and not someone's home like how do you have 40 foot ceilings right uh but i guess it's look when you have to unburden yourself from all that money, you just have to get, you gotta have a 40 foot seat. It is so hard. Like if I had to unburden myself of billions of dollars, yeah, I might buy Nazi propaganda too. Exactly.

I might buy Sacagawea's skull. Okay. That's just because I'm trying to unburden myself from all this money. Nothing better than drinking your skull and bones frat mates, commie bath water out of socket. Do we say, speak for yourself? I'm sipping straight Josh out of this skull piece.

Um, and then finally, uh, judge Arthur Angeran has said that he does not expect Donald Trump to speak during closing arguments in the $370 million New York civil fraud trial against Trump. Yeah. The deadline came and went and it's been

crickets. I mean, this is the $370 million in damages case here. And also being like, and you will never do business in the state again. We shall see. It's a big one for him.

I understand. That one is going to, I mean, that shit will hurt because we know this guy probably only has like $200. Right. You know, and he's just living off of, he's living on a prayer, y'all. And those NFTs of him being a macho man. So. Yeah.

It'll be interesting to see. So go out and buy the Trump NFTs is what we're saying. Yeah. Help this guy, man. Yeah. Help this guy, man. Yeah. Help this guy. All right. Those are some of the things that are trending on this Wednesday, January 10th.

We are back tomorrow with a whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourself. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. Hell no. And we will talk to you all tomorrow. Bye the vaccine. Don't do nothing about weight supremacy. And we will talk to y'all tomorrow. Bye. Bye.

I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church.

Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry,ry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese

on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadson. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline

from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your

podcasts.