The Daily Zeitgeist - No Further Answers Your Honor - Trump, AI Doc Ain’t Good Idea? 09.08.23

Episode Date: September 8, 2023

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hear they're coming from poolside coming to you from poolside hell yeah is one of our favorite guests one of your favorite guests a writer an actor one of the funniest stand-up comedians doing it fuck yeah she has one of the best comedy specials of the year called Bitch Grow Up that you can go watch on Max. You must go watch it on Max. Immediately. We have to say it. You know, we have to say it.

No, you don't have to do the promo. Let us do the promo for you. Please, please. It is the hilarious. Those are non-union kicks. The talented. Marcella Arguello! Marcella Arguello!

Thank you so much. It's me, Beyonce. Thank you so much. Happy me beyonce thank you so much happy birthday happy belated birthday i am the mayor thank you so much uh headlining the hollywood improv september 15th la come check me out oh shit okay it's my birthday is it yeah come Yeah. Come ruin it. Come watch me. Yeah, why not? Come ruin it. Let me ruin your birthday. Come ruin my show. You'll be like,

oh, this motherfucker's actually here. You might be like the drunk birthday girl in the audience. Oh, no. It's my birthday. Oh, shit, we got a drunk birthday party. It's my birthday. My favorite thing to do

when people are at comedy shows when they interrupt my site going, it's my birthday. I'm like, bitch, this isn't Applebee's. I don't give a fuck that it's your birthday. I always get to laugh. Yeah, I'm like, I don't care, girl. Oh, bitch, this is an Applebee's. I don't give a fuck that it's your birthday. I always get to laugh. Yeah, I'm like,

I don't care, girl. Oh, bitch, shut the fuck up. Another year and you haven't learned to calm down.

You're like, oh, shit, let me get this, bitch. Oh, I got a candle right here for you.

Let me light it. Oh, here it is. Smoke on that. Yeah, there it is. Middle finger exposed, everyone,

for all those listening. Yes, thank you. Thank you so much for having me back. It's me, Beyonce, for all those listening. Yes, thank you. Thank you so much for having me back. It's me, Beyonce. I am the mayor. Did you go to the Beyonce show? I wish I did.

My foot injury stopped me from knowing I could commit to so much walking and standing. If I had to guess what happened to your foot, it's that you broke it off in some fool's ass. Sideways. Is that true? Some fool's ass? Is that what fool's ass i guess that's what i said yeah i don't know why i said that but he's the cool guidance counselor my podiatrist told me i have a very unique unique uh foot injury because i hurt it in two spots he was like i have never seen anything like this um because what i did was i sprained it and then i ignored the signs that it was actually badly injured and i injured it and in two other spots oh no tenonitis a torn ligament

that is almost fully healed and then um some shit happening on the bottom yeah it is a disaster and it's been now almost a year of it so um but i'm getting i'm healing i'm getting better i couldn't go see beyonce because i saw her once before and it was a lot of walking from the car to the stadium to your seats to the bathroom to get a drink to buy merch like it's a lot on top of she did three hours and that's what i was informed of early on and i was like yeah i can't handle that so too much i don't know i wish i could have but i was also very happy because throughout all of her shows, especially in L.A., I got a lot of messages from people that were like, every time she talked, I thought of you. Every time she opened her mouth, I was like, that's how Marcella does that. And it brought me so much joy, really wore my spirit that I was with people at the Beyonce concert.

Because it's such a beautiful album, you know, it's so loving. And that's what she's all about. And I love that I was there with everybody. So it was cool. Your energy was channeled even there. It's so cool. Yes. So that was cool. All right.

Well, Marcella, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, a couple of things we're talking about. We're just going to do a quick check in on Donald Trump. And we're going to hear from him. You know, everybody's talking about him. What's he have to say about what's going on with him? Because that's got to be trustworthy, right? Yeah. It's important to know what he thinks. Right. Right. Because it's valid and rational. Yeah. Yeah. We'll talk about the way that AI could be used in health care and then

how it's actually probably going to be used and just be bad be bad it's gonna be bad we'll talk about uh rotten tomatoes being full of shit like more than we even thought i guess because it's easy to rig the system turns out they rig yeah you can you can pay for reviews you can just like hire some low-level reviewers to boost your score up so all of that plenty more but first marcella we do like to ask our guest what is something from your search history oh my god my search history right now is filled with questions about tears of the kingdom so i'm playing the new zelda game and every time i i try to work on something some side quest or some shrine and i can't figure it

out i just google it because i could give a fuck right you know i don't care and the last one was really funny because um there's a character there's a monster character um who's obsessed with monsters his name is kilton and he's asking you to take pictures of other monsters so he can create um he can get like statues of these monsters made onto his property. And as I'm doing them, you know, you get like good rewards. As I'm doing them, I'm like, wait a minute, are all these monsters going to come to life and I'm going to have to kill them? And this is actually creating a problem and I probably shouldn't be doing this. So the last Google search was me trying to figure out if that's what happens.

Because I was like, I don't want to finish this quest if i am just gonna create more problems for myself and um i'm happy to say that is not the case oh shit i've been so i was already on the last one but the last one was like a three-headed monster and i was like this is if he has to come to life i'm gonna like lose so many materials i like how you went hold up now do i really help this motherfucker out just so i could fight a fucking three-headed mom nah i yeah i like that you have those game instincts where you're like way to tick yeah am i the architect of my own fucking downfall right now yeah yeah yeah so it was really funny because i was like what is the last thing i go and i was like wow i really do not i'm like have've spent so much of this game trying to avoid a lot of fighting which is hilarious because that's it you're either fighting or fucking

wandering right and i've been really enjoying the wandering because i noticed that my anxiety goes up when i gotta fight a gang of fools yeah for real just like real life you know just like real life so i um i've been trying to avoid as much fighting if it's not necessary. So that's a little insight because I feel like, you know, that's a good game. But also there's hacks. Everybody knows. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I like the idea of a monster who's obsessed with monsters. He's like so horny for monsters. Yeah. I mean, I guess on one hand, that's like just a people person. Yeah, exactly. But with monsters,

he's a monster monster. he's a monster's monster exactly you know deep down who's your monster's favorite monster that's right i mean everybody's monster got a favorite monster exactly who's your favorite monster who's my favorite monster oh that's a good question oh like, like in real life? Whatever. I mean, when asked that question, what comes up to the surface for you? I think Gordon Ramsay is my favorite monster. Oh, shit. He's a monster, but he's a good monster.

He really does want perfection off a sandwich. And you're just like, bro, what is your issue? But I get it because sandwiches can be so delicious if they're made right. Right. I'll second that. you but i get it because sandwiches can be so delicious if they're made right right i'll second that i i used to be a pa and like worked on hell's kitchen and he changed the the craft services company and catering for the crew because he said the food wasn't good enough and i and like that's wild when you have somebody like take up for the crew to be like the fuck is this grilled cheese

nah then the next day a new fucking catering company was in like making fucking like, like ribeyes and shit. Hell yeah. He's a monster on behalf of the people. He can be. Yeah, that's why. That's why I like what he does. Yeah, absolutely.

But also he could be a monster of the crew. He also made some motherfuckers feel tiny on that set. I'm not going to fucking lie. Yeah, I believe that. But that's the thing is like, no monster is going to be perfect. No, no. No monster is flawless. It cuts both ways. It that's the thing. No monster is going to be perfect.

No monster is flawless. It cuts both ways. It definitely cuts both ways. So that's why he's my favorite monster. Because he's still a monster at the end of the day. But when he does some shit right, you're like, yeah, thank you for this, ribeye. Thank you. Yeah, exactly.

Do you have a favorite monster, Jack? Thank you for asking, Ellen DeGeneres. It's the toothpick thing. Right. The creativity of the toothpick thing. She would hide toothpicks around just to see if her cleaning... It's just such dedication to minutiae, to having the terror of working for her

pervade every square inch of her home. It's really like an amazing level of dedication. That's true. What about this new Jimmy Fallon? Jimmy Fallon. I need to learn more because he's like kind of we're just finding out the details are a little bit sketchy. Sure. He's definitely monstrous. Yeah. we're just finding out the details are a little bit sketchy. Sure.

He's definitely something up stress. Yeah. But it's just, he seems a little inconsistent. Yes. It seems like, like sometimes he's like, they're like, he's so fun.

And then other times they're like, it's a bad Jimmy day. Yeah. He's a drunk today. Right. Might be a little bit drunk today. Yeah. I just like that that they had the phrase

we're up against it that's like that was the code word i i did not appreciate that part there's there's no article on vulture about how the fallon is like a bad place to work like really bad and toxic and he is really rough and they talk about how the inside the code phrases were really up against it today and that meant like jimmy is being a asshole yeah everybody steer clear but like that now they can't use that phrase anymore they need to and he's probably like thinking back and being like this motherfucker always said they were against it but thateng. I thought that was just a thing they said. Yeah. Now when people have a food craving, like, let's go get Cheez-Its.

He's like, is that the new code? Let's go get Cheez-Its. The paranoia is going to go overwhelmed. Shut the fuck up, man. We got Cheez-Its, man. Oh, God. Yeah, yeah. My bad, my bad.

All right. Marcella, what is something that you think is overrated? You know, I couldn't think of something, maybe because I got a little high. Yeah, you got a little high this time. I got a little high this time. Ladies and gentlemen, introducing a little bit high Marcella for the first time. She's never been a little bit high on our podcast. I've never been a little bit high on anyone's podcast, okay?

I trust you guys. This is so nice. I thought there was not going to be a guest host. I was like, you know what? I can get a little high. I read the comments. People get mad that I'm so guys. Yeah. I saw that. I thought there was not going to be a guest host. I was like, you know what? I can, I can get a little high. I read the comments. People get mad that I'm so mean to Jack.

And I know when I'm a little high, I'm a little more. I like that. Jack. You're like, it's fun. Like, it's all good.

I love how they're, I love Jack's like, be nice to Marcelo when she's mean to me, guys. It's okay. It's my thing. Yeah. I mean, a lot of, and you know, what's funny is a when she's mean to me, guys. It's okay. It's kind of my thing. Yeah, I mean, a lot of, and you know what's funny is a lot of guys don't understand it too.

There's a comic who's like, has a little crush on me. And I'm just very mean to him. I'm very mean to him. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I really give it to him more because I know he really enjoys it. And I'm waiting for him. I'm waiting for him to be like, Marcelo, why are you so mean? And I can't wait to be like, stop asking me are you so mean and i can't wait to be like stop asking me why i'm so mean and ask yourself why you like it you bitch oh that's gonna be a moment

when he when i have that exchange i'm wait i know it's gonna happen one day because this is such a got it loaded why are you so mean to me so mean why do you like it you like bitch yeah that's the real question what'd your mom do to you bro that's what i want to know what didn't she do you little pain hog so yeah i'm a little high so i'm a little i'm a little more fun and a little more rambly but it'll be worth it guys so like i just showed you but overrated underrated couldn't think of something but so i decided to google things like what do people find overrated because i was like there you go this is because it's all it's all opinion yeah so the top three things in the first three articles the number one thing one bitch wrote bacon overrated is overrated okay so i already know the bitch has no taste like i also feel like you're about to out a bunch of our former guests because you're

like what if you well what if you like named a bunch of like other people's overrated and underrated and they were just like googling like i don't have opinions what are overrated that's probably true damn i didn't think about that you're totally right but bacon come on yeah it's sinful meat it's so good i think we've said this in the in the past we're like it's properly rated i get like 10 years ago we were doing too much it was od overrated by some people who are not worth paying attention to oh my god bacon people yeah but like who gives a fuck about them like let them have their weird little thing yeah go to the like as they say go that's like the fucking heart attack cafe or whatever the fuck

it's called where like everything is bacon like i get it we get it but like don't don't you gotta hate on it yeah it's so tasty it's so good what else is on that when you find yourself being like uh like i don't even really like this thing that's fucking delicious and like makes my body like involuntarily do things like water just pour out of my mouth when i oh my god that's not i thought that was wow but but when that's your take like you're working too hard to have a take exactly i also just you know it's good when religions are like, you cannot have it. Like, you know that shit is good, man. Get out of here. So another,

okay, another article. I'm not going to name these people because they're all weirdos. But another person, their article, then her number one choice was clubbing. Clubbing? Like, going out clubbing. And it was just like, you loser bitch. Like, stop imposing your introverted lifestyle on people

who enjoy being outside when's the last time you went to the club though marcella you go to the club well because of my foot injury oh right it has it's been few and far between but i'm i will say uh like two weeks ago i think i it was like my birthday party weekend so it was what middle of august so yeah like a couple weeks ago i was out and i because of my foot injury couldn't really do much but yeah i took my boyfriend to this um place in medesco called crocodile it's like this old ass like it is a wedding reception without the family it is so fun there's like no drinks on the dance floor they encourage people to dress up. There is a strict dress code and not like,

not on some like high-fashioned dress code. On some like, don't come in here sloppy, bro. Like guys have to have their shirts buttoned up if they wear a button up. Like you cannot have a little like tank top showing underneath. Like they're very much like,

nah bro, we're here to dance and drink and have a good time and respect everybody. Whoa. And they're on it. Like I saw them go up to some guy some young dude because he thought he could get away with whatever he was dressed up really cute but he unbuttoned his shirt to like show off and dudes came up and were like you need to button your shirt back up bro and i loved it because i was like yeah i got dressed up you should be dressed up too couples like 70 year old couples come in there dressed matching and dance the night

away like i love going out dancing and that's maybe that doesn't fall under clubbing but there are places to go out and have a good time and dance and enjoy yourself and i hate when people are like clubbing is so lame like girl you just don't like to drink and be out and it's loud and you're probably neurodivergent you can't handle all the fucking sensory overload shit. That's one thing. You might be going to the wrong clubs. You might be going to the wrong clubs. This shit sounds so fun.

We had another guest talk about like going to, like there was like a chandelier room where they were like singing Elvis covers or some shit. Like it's just like, go find a weird club. Find the club. Yes. Find the club that works

for you but don't shit on clubbing come on this is wow and i jersey shore shit i get like you don't want to be around that i understand right right right sure you know there's so many different what about bottle wars did y'all see that clip over the weekend of the bottle war shit that was going on no like a houston nightclub it was like new york versus baltimore bottle it's like this shit people been doing for a while. You just start, you just start emptying bottles onto the floor for the flex. Oh God.

I hate that. Dumping like $6,000 worth of liquor, like onto the floor. That's annoying. Yeah. That's rude. It's the flex. You know what I mean?

It manifests in different ways, but I'm at the Crocodiles website. I'm looking at, they have a whole dress code sub page. Like, so sports attire no t-shirts no sweats no baseball caps beanies no overly revealing clothing i like that they're like we're modest then men collar dress shirts required no sports attire no t-shirts no longer short sleeve shirts no henley's no shallow v-necks oh henley's style and shallow v-necks okay no hoodies okay shallow v-neck nice dress sweaters okay but i can't get away with my shit that i

try and pull off with my v-neck right no deep deep yeah no no you got that j-lo deep v like where i'm flirting with exposing navel yeah 100 no sweats no baggy loose clothing no club colors what are club colors are they trying to say, no club colors. What are club colors? Are they trying to say like gang colors? Club colors, like gang colors, like red, white. I mean red, blue. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No sandals, flip-flops, no flannels. You can't wear red or blue? Or you just can't wear all red or all blue?

You're saying... It depends on the red or the blue. You can usually tell. Right, right, right. Yeah. If you don't have like a flag coming out your pocket with your cold-ball suit on, then maybe we have problem wait so but you're saying this isn't on some like racist shit because it's very much like they just want or they just want everybody to come in like it's like it's a nice place like it's a nice place i'm telling you that's not there they're totally like trust me hood motherfuckers show up trust right right right but they're in their like

player but they're in their player they're in their player fit yeah that's what i'm saying it's like okay it is it seems like it off top like you're sure i get it but when you're reading it but i'm telling you it's not that they're like no no you can be hood is fucking here and you can like be annoying and all that shit but just be cute don't be a messy on the dance floor you can't like they really are just like no we're just here it's like family like it's like a family function i love it wow the interior does look like a time capsule it is dude it's so fun if you're ever in the central valley and you want to go out especially on saturday night friday nights are pretty empty but saturday nights are always popping they're so and it's the music is insane yeah there is music is insane dude this looks

like this looks like it's like a fucking scene in carlito's way or yes dude yeah so that's what i'm saying when you walk in there you want to look cute right right right they want you to match the vibe it's like carlito's way mixed with a uh laser tag like yeah yeah yeah yeah it's on that shit it's cute so the music like the other day it was like it went from like Suavemente to like Eminem. Like the music is insane. It's silly. It's just you're there for a silly time.

Right, right, right. And that's the other thing. That's why it's like, even the music is like kind of corny, but like in that fun way, we were like, we never in high school. Yeah, yeah. You know, you're at a party. You're just like, you know, you're just going to be kissing tonight. That's it. Wow. Shout out Crocodiles. I love Crocod crocodiles it's the funnest all right so finding a weird club is underrated yeah finding a like cool yeah exactly she was

saying it was overrated but it's like nah man find the clubs that work for you yeah right and then the final article that i saw that um the i i i've only gave the first one for the other two articles I got to give the two on this one because it's really funny how they go hand in hand this guy's idea of what's overrated the first one is a formal education which I agree but then the second one is science this guy's got some opinions on the value he's got some he's done some research some of his own research on the vaccine i don't think he's a fan of fauci yeah because it's like oh yeah formal education i agree not everybody should be required to fucking for any fucking job to have uh like fucking aaba any of that shit there's plenty of jobs that don't need that shit

um and then he said science and i was like bro i'm tapping out like we are not agreeing on the same on the same number one he's like yeah well i got my master's degree on youtube you know what i mean so like that's why i can go toe-to-toe with any person who went to a brick and mortar college like okay sure okay okay i actually got a bachelor of science from prager university from From Prager University. That's not usually their specialty. It's all Christ-based. It's all faith-based science. I got mine at Ragu University. Ragu. All sauce.

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But what's he have to say about what he's up to miles oh just for just quick checking for starters the judge in his second eugene carroll defamation case he's already been like yo man i'm you're you're liable okay so the only thing now left to do is for the jury to just get together in january and just figure out how much you owe eugene carroll this isn't about whether or not you are guilty or not like we've we've determined that so this jury will get together just to figure out to put a price tag on the fuckery mind you that he already has to pay her five million dollars from the previous judgment and trump was trying to get the judge to put a cap on the damages and be like well i've already paid five the judge like nah nah it seems like you're pretty rich

you keep saying that no yeah it's kind of your whole thing right yeah you got it you got it like that right here what's another 10 million right right that's fine just sell a couple more mugs with your with your mug shot on it um but anyway that's like that classic like a young rapper has way too much shit on his ig and then he fucking gets guess has to go to court for some shit and they just pull up his ig like bro look at all this money and drugs like and guns and shit bro what are you doing stop putting your own shit on blast i have nothing your honor please yeah they're like you were just you just bought a a fucking three hundred thousand dollar chain with your face

made of diamonds right right you just bought a new weave for sure that's my character has donald trump tried the that's a character i play interesting that's a good idea elected president so who is stupid now you elected a wwe character president dumbass that is such a good actually broke that's yeah that's too short carrying his wife's purse in the airport you know yes they're like that's a character sir okay yeah although trump he probably looked good with a lace front though if he probably i'm surprised he does look good with the lace front that's what he's wearing right i mean i mean he could go harder but hey i get it he only trusts him to apply it sure but so anyway when the next thing that happened was his documents case.

Right. Trump seems to be at the end of his rope here in terms of like what his possible defense could be, because obviously this case isn't the most significant for him from like a legal standpoint, like not like the Rico case and shit, you know, or the other shit happening in D.C. But this like it's clear now he Doesn't really have like a Articulated defense because he keeps saying the Same thing over and over He was on a Hugh Hewitt show And he was talking about how like I'll take the stand I'll take the stand and Also about how he's

Protected under the presidential Records Act spoiler alert he Is not but I just want to listen to This now of him just going yammering on about how he's all good in this case because it doesn't matter did you direct anyone to move the boxes mr president did you tell anyone to move the boxes i don't talk about anything you know why i don't talk about i'm allowed to do whatever i want i come under the presidential records act i'm not telling you you know every time i talk to you oh i have a breaking story you don't have any story i come under the presidential records act i'm allowed

to do everything i did but if you so who is hugh hewitt hugh hewitt is like one of these like goony right wing like radio dudes like commentator guys he's not he's not a he's he's but he's like right wing he's part of the right wing that trump thinks is against him yeah but he'll also you know he'll also you know like vacillate between reasonable conservative and then just you know full throat bootlicking so you know it's hard he loves this shit so much trump like he loves going on a show and being like you don't got shit. You're fucking stupid. I also just love that he's like, yes,

everything I did, I did it because I could do it, but I definitely did it. Like bro, shut the fuck up. And if I have this interpretation of the law, incorrect, I'm totally fucked.

But yeah, I did it. And there's nothing you could do because I'm bulletproof, baby. It's really funny. I was like, you have nothing, but I did it. You have nothing, but I did it. I can do that. But I can do that is the thing.

But I'm not telling you. That's how he also said it. I'm not telling you. But here is my confession. But I did that shit. These are my confessions. Thank you. Where's Usher?

We're not doing that because it would be good for your ratings. Well, then he goes on again. And then Hugh Hewitt's like, all right, hypothetical. You're on the stand. What are you going to say? Oh, my God. Are you serious? I think that.

Okay. If you do. And they ask you on the stand, did you order anyone to move boxes? How will you answer i'm not answering that question for you but i'm totally covered under the law okay read the presidential records act just read it you take a look at it i'm totally covered under the law spoiler alert he is in fact not fucking covered under the presidential records act just read it miles just read it any asshole with google including myself can look up the presidential records act and it states that

all white house records related to government business are public property and that when the president and vice president leave office those documents must be transferred to the National Archives for Preservation. So there's not a single thing under there that is being like, just read it. I'm covered. It's like, you're not, but you're just trying to do that thing where you think if you say that shit

over and over and over again, that I'm sure maybe some of the people listening to that interview might believe that. But when it goes to, when it's actually presented, they're going to be like, sir, this is, it doesn't say anything about that shit here at all and he's he's surrounded by lawyers who are on his

payroll and he's fired all the ones who tell him the stuff that he doesn't want to hear so he's just strong and wrong baby strong and wrong i bet his lawyers like we're up against it today folks we're up against it did you hear that fucking interview i'm covered i'm his lawyer's like we're up against it today folks we're up against it did you hear that fucking interview i'm covered i'm covered it's like i don't what is he even talking about so he did it it doesn't matter he did it and he's covered yeah out miles and also the thing is this guy he always he's always pump faking like he'll take the stand he says that all the time he's like yeah i'll take the stand it doesn't matter but he never does so again it's this is just where he's at he's only got a bunch of pump faking left and i don't know

where it's gonna end up but hey you wish i'd take the stand be good for your ratings what would you say i'm not telling you but i'm good under the law i could do whatever i want that's essentially your answer yeah right but yes i did it but did it, but I'm protected, right, Judge? I'm protected, right? I'm protected for what? That I can do anything. We good here? We good here.

He's going to do that. He's going to sit down, be like, Presidential Records Act. We good here? We good here. I'm covered. Got a tea time.

Do you think that if he took the stand, he would, because he either talks one in two ways. He confidently speaks with a lot of hand gestures or he has both hands planted right what do you think his strategy would be i don't know if he's that i don't know with his back against the wall i feel like he might be energetic but you think about remember that time like in the eugene carroll depositions when he's like i don't know her and then he mistook her for his wife in the photo it's like you never want this dude even if he even if he is behaving he's gonna fucking self-own somehow up there so it's so wild who's that that's my wife before there i am with

my beautiful wife look at her isn't she beautiful wife she's so beautiful beautiful sexy wife that i would rail any chance i got who that woman i don't know her she's ugly that's eugene carroll sir they're like oh oh okay so i'm no further questions yeah thank you no further answers please no further answers no further answers your honor what is that i'm jack to what no further answers no further answers your honor what is that i object to what no further answers what the fuck is that mean yeah that's you got to name that the pod no further answers your honor the trials of donald j trump no further answers that's pretty good all right in other news that's gonna be my new transition there new transition. There's been a lot of discussion lately about AI replacing writers, taxi drivers. There's also a lot of concern regarding whether or not AI should replace doctors.

And so there's been articles claiming that AI can help the healthcare industry. And that is absolutely true. that AI can help the healthcare industry. And that is absolutely true. Like there's been articles that claim that like AI chatbots can help healthcare, like doctors with their bedside manner. There's ways that it helps cut time with like finding data retrieval

and like big diagnostic things. Those are all true, but it's always being framed as like replacing the doctor. Better than a doctor or nurse. Better than doctor. Just like they want it to be something that it's not. They want it to be robot doctor who's like, you know, just that's the only person you deal with. And it's like definitely does not work that well like for so for instance this one of the studies by the way the methodology is comparing chat gpt

with like chat gpt responses to questions that people posed in a ask docs subreddit with like what the actual doctors in a subreddit said and then being like they actually like did better than the doctors and on reddit so i think they could replace them like that wow that's the low-hanging ass fruit right there to try and make your point yeah yeah i mean i think that they're like chad g is a good tool. Like it's a cool tool. It's, it's like they're trying to replace they're like when Google, if Google was invented and they were like, well, you don't need lawyers anymore. You don't need doctors anymore because all you need to do is Google this shit. Ask a question. It's like, no, this is a good tool for doctors. I want my doctor to Google what I have, but I don't want my doctor

to be Google, to be Google. Exactly. And I want my doctor to have some of their energy saved up by using this language model to help them like write emails that are clear and concise and like convey the information that needs to be conveyed. I don't need them to use this language model to replace the doctor, which is just going to be a worse thing. Like it's just going to create a thing, like a thing that's harder to tell that you're being fucked over because they are able to like string together sentences that make it sound like you're dealing with an actual health care professional. But it's actually like a medical chat bot. Like there are. So they've already been testing this MedPalm2 at the Mayo Clinic. and like the way they write about it is like in almost every metric such as showing evidence of reasoning consensus supported answers the med palm to performed more or less as well as the

actual doctors it's like what it shouldn't be a fucking competition yeah it's insane to like think of it as a competition it's not it's not supposed to be replacing them. It should be improving the quality of care that people get, which is an actual problem that everybody seems to acknowledge in the United States. It's really hard to get good medical care, but it really feels like it's because of the private equityification of the U.S., like the fact that the only thing that excites the people who make the decisions at a high level is cutting costs and improving profit. And so their interpretation of AI is not like, here's a good tool that will improve the product

because they don't give a fuck about the product. All they care about is finding ways to cut costs. And so that's why it's always being framed as, well, this can replace people, right? It's like, no, it can make people better at their job. Maybe if you like give them a chance to learn how to use it. And if you like think about it in a way that's like patient and thoughtful but instead the only thing they care about is cutting how many jobs they can cut which is it's crazy that like we are allowing that to be the way that this technology is being written about and like thought about at a broad level right you know a lot of it is looking as like oh ai is here to make everything like obsolete or it's like the

the be all endall of certain industries. That's sort of the dominant narrative, which has everyone being like, so it's smarter than a doctor? So it's better than a doctor? So it's better than a writer? It's like rather than, well, no. And even like what they're talking about

when they're analyzing the performance of that one AI, it's like performed more or less as well as the actual doctors well what's less yes like how bad is less like that's kind of a big fucking deal if you completely misdiagnose shit because like with all ai like you know you can already see how there's going to be like the kind of care can be all fucked up based on like racial biases and shit like that because even when you look at, even if it is going through like actual data, if you look at clinical trials for certain medications, if sometimes a certain ethnic group isn't responding as well as another, they will just preclude them from participating in the study to make the to make the results look better. Where it's like, yeah, well, this shit actually works better for white alzheimer's patients and not black or latino alzheimer's patients so like let's have a couple of them in there but mostly the white ones because those are showing us the

best results and we're all we already have a deficit and even how we even are testing certain things so and i bet with like a really good doctor like that and uh somebody who's like really smart about how they use ai ai could actually be used to like fight against the biases that do exist with doctors like doctors are not above that shit by any means like they're some of the most sexist racist motherfuckers and you know out here because they're like sitting there getting told they're like incredibly smart and they have like a lot of authority and so whenever there's a lot of authority you see a lot of biases and shit like just go uncheck so there's a problem there's an issue there and i don't think that like i think in a different world where we don't approach a technology and say how many jobs could this cut

like as the first question we would be approaching this and being like oh this is a great opportunity to fucking like improve medical care and like cut out all this bias all these biases by like you know doing like approaching data differently or like using it like approaching people you know and just doing a better job like parsing through massive amounts of data without racism goggles on you know but yeah i i always find it interesting when you actually stumble upon a really good doctor and like the thing that you notice which from a good doctor to a not good doctor is that they actually like take their time and they want to know the real personal route of like,

where the fuck this shit is coming from, you know, and you're not just filling out a form that says like, yes, that's my father had cancer and died. Like you're, you're, you know, you're actually engaging with like, okay, like what, what does this mean? And what does that mean? And where is this? And where do you work? And what's your stress levels? And like, when you have a doctor that really cares, it's such a fucking huge difference. And if they did have those tools and they could like, you know, precision focus on whatever it is that's bothering you, it would be so nice in an ideal way.

And it's also going back to what you were saying, Jack, about how like, it's crazy that like, when we get some technology, it's like, how do we cut jobs? And it's wild that right now, the AI conversation is like that. But it's also not because when you think about the way people talk about immigrants and immigrants taking people's jobs, it's like there's so much disconnect of like what's really happening in all of these industries. And AI is just about to make that shit so much worse.

And that's, of course, why they're doing the double strike with this with my industry. And that's, of course, why they're doing the double strike with this, with my industry. And it's really fascinating to be in it so deep. And it seems to be like every industry is getting affected by this shit. It's really wild. Like, where is this going? I don't know. Yeah, because it starts off as being like, this will help people's efficiency. And then again, like when you start, if you have like a company that has to answer to wall street then you you can see how that pressure

can turn into it's like well why don't we just make them all a bunch of chatbots or at least a lot of them could be you know for a lot of this shit and it is a slippery slope and like to the point of like i get to because some like medical systems are so overburdened like i feel like doctors own they're like i have to see like hundred fucking people in a day because I'm already they're already cutting costs that they're there. I can't give the quality of care. Right. Shit is slipping through the cracks. And that happened tragically with my cousin, you know, like having something completely misdiagnosed, go completely under the fucking radar. And then, oh, sorry, you have stage four cancer. i mean that's what happens and you think about how frequent that kind of shit happened like how frequently that kind of thing happens

and you're like i isn't there a way to help that for somebody who unfortunate like you know i guess i won't say that a doctor is negligent because i don't know what the fuck their work environment is like but those are the instances where you feel like couldn't that help like like more or less they have more time yeah yeah fall through the fucking cracks of being like no you're fine it's fibroids don't worry about it don't worry about it don't worry about it and then it's oh hey we totally fucked that up sorry yeah that's just i think those are sorry bye-bye that's what's fucked up yeah it's that that's where you're hoping that then is there a way to improve that?

You know what I mean? But not just wholesale being like, and this shit is more popping than doctors and of moving on. Yeah. Yeah. And then, and then you get into the deeper conversation of like a medical school being so fucking expensive and only certain types of people have access to it. I mean, that's what's fucked is there's so many layers that's happening in this conversation that we're trying to have. Right. But it's like, you feel fucking crazy because you're just like i just want everyone i love to

get good health care why is that so hard right why do you have to like yeah why there has to be like a shortage of doctors and they have to be like treated like shit like professionally hazed to like like there's like stories when you like people are going through medical school, they're like these stories where it's like, yeah. So like I would be driving to work and like part of my routine was I would fall asleep at the red light and then people would wake me up by honking at me when the light turned green. And that's how I would like sleep during medical school. It's like, Jesus, Jesus. Well, why do you, why professionals? Yeah. But there is this interesting case study of like because the whole AI thing and like everybody going crazy about AI right now is really like a media bubble. And like this technology has been around. It's just like once Chad GPT happened and a lot of people were like, whoa, it feels like I'm talking to person when I talk to this thing and they give me answers. Yes, the answers aren't correct, but they get a lot of shit wrong. But it's interesting that it can type answers. So I'm impressed. But like there's been

AI for a while and there was this company called Babylon Health, a startup in 2018, that they had an AI chatbot that was reportedly able to diagnose medical conditions as accurately as a doctor. And that claim was based on a study that, as noted in a follow-up paper by researchers, did not offer convincing evidence that Babylon can perform better than doctors in any realistic situation. And, and there is a possibility that it might perform significantly worse. And yeah, it's just like the over promising of the technology, like just immediately, like starts immediately because the second you have something like this,

it gets put in a room with people who are like, how do we at the highest level as people who aren't involved in this at all, we're not doctors, how do we make the most money off of that? And the way to make the most money off of that is to just give unrealistic prognostications of like what the thing's going to be able to do and like not work with it at all. of like what the thing's going to be able to do and like not work with it at all. And I feel like that's what AI is to a large degree. It's like a word for tech advances that we already have or that have been happening for a while. But the media bubble is like an opportunity for these like financial powers to like dig in and try to make money by like claiming that they can cut jobs but anyways this

babylon company the nhs the british like health care system signed a big contract with them to like take over signed three projects with the uk's nhs hospital trusts and they ended up canceling almost all of them like eight years before they were supposed to. Also, I wonder if the person who named it was like a Rastafarian and was looking at it like a Babylon type thing. You know, like real oppressive systems that we live under according to the Rastafarian version of Babylon. Like, this is bullshit. This is hyper-capitalist oppressive bullshit. They invented it and we're like, uh-oh,

oh, this is bad. Call it Babylon. Yeah. I have two thoughts. First one is, I think it's also amusing because at some point in the future, like,

yeah, they'd get these AI, whatever chat bot to come fucking take over the doctor's job. But then there's going to be the next level of exploitation after that, where'd get these AI, whatever chat bot to come fucking take over the doctor's job. But then there's going to be the next level of exploitation after that, where now like your privacy is at risk. Like literal pictures of your body are now like hidden within these AI chat. You know, men are going to fucking hack that shit. Now they got pictures of my pussy because my gynecologist had to like, you know, you know taking pictures and check if i got fibroids you don't know whatever it's like you know that's the next level once they introduce this i mean

that's what's happening with fucking cars did you see that article about oh yeah that they're all spying on they say like yeah they're keeping tabs on your sex life on everything like that you get that smart shit in anything and you're gonna to get to that point where it's like it just gets nasty. It was wild. Yeah. How like that article ended with like, there ain't a damn company that isn't fucking with your data.

They said except for two and they were like based in Europe because they have to actually abide by their privacy laws. Everybody else, they're hoovering up all your fucking data. They're watching you fuck. They're watching you fuck. They're watching you fuck. That's the slogan. all your fucking data they're watching you fuck oh yeah they're watching you fuck that slogan you thought when the car was off its headlights weren't watching you wait what

yeah nasty and then the second thought i had uh was it's interesting how i mean i think naturally all technology there's a dark side to it right any any invention is going to have a dark side to it you know you invent whatever the to have a dark side to it you know you invented whatever the car and it's made to transport but you can kill somebody with your car so it made me think about how like i wonder if when pins were invented like if like who was the first person to get to die getting stabbed by a pin oh yeah like this is out of control this is why we can't have pins in our household or pencils or whatever the fuck there's literally this is always this is human nature it seems or it's like you invent something and it's going to be used for evil because that's the way humans work.

I mean, we already have this one example that's pretty creepy. which is, it's like your doctor will use it to record your conversation with your doctor, and it captures the encounters in real time and automatically extracts medical information throughout the conversation, which sounds like a good idea, good use of the technology, except the software was only able to catch 80% of what was recorded. Okay. Their AI would have, quote, hallucinations and provide, quote, false information about patients, including errors in listing medications, which seems pretty bad.

So to fix this issue, the company hired a team of 200 random people who would fix the notes by listening into these supposedly private recordings of medical appointments. So problem solved. We just got random, you know, a random stenographer. Job creation.

All I'm hearing, Jack, is job offers, job creation, money. Come on, bro. You're hating. That's true. Yeah, shout out to those 200 humans. Yes. That's so crazy. I hate it. Yeah. And then they're also using it to screw you

over on insurance claims of course so oh we didn't even get to the good part yeah where they're like yeah yeah this will just go through insurance claims to help a doctor deny all of them yeah yeah it's easier to deny the insurance company signa is being sued for using an ai algorithm instead of doctors to review customer claims, allowing their doctors to deny claims without ever opening patient files. That's great. That's great. Yeah. I like how, yeah, this like one example is this woman who like was getting an ultrasound because they thought she may have ovarian cancer and they found a cyst.

And then Cig just denied denied her claim for the ultrasound and a follow-up procedure claiming neither were medically necessary and leaving her on the hook for 723 dollars which is wild because they could have just done that without the ai right you know what i mean yeah okay sure i guess it's more efficient or just as fucked up yeah um. All right. Should we take one more break and come back and talk about the real scandal that rotten tomatoes might not be

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He got it tatted. I have some thoughts about Rotten Tomatoes. I bet you do. Pull up a seat, Marcella. Can I just closed my laptop. Yeah, that would be in your online dating profile. It's like, here's some things about me. Rotten Tomatoes skeptic.

Yes. Okay. Follower of Christ. I prefer Metacritic personally. Oh my God. Because they have a little bit more, a little bit more specific with the inputs that they put in. So like a five-star review.

It's not just fresh. It is input as a 10 out of 10. Wait, back it up a second. Who is submitting to Rotten Tomatoes, for those that don't know, like me, for example? Movie critics. Okay, but who defines that? Who defines the movie critics? That's a great point.

Yeah. And a great question. And it is the crux of the issue. Right. Because Rotten Tomatoes determines it, and the owners of Rotten Tomatoes have some say into who gets allowed in there. And you'll never believe this.

Rotten Tomatoes is owned by a movie studio. They're owned by Universal pictures and warner brothers or sorry they're owned by warner brothers and fandango which shares a parent company with universal pictures so yeah they so it was just revealed that a pr company called bunker 15 which is just like, ugh. What a name. You know that's a shit job. Like if someone's like, where do you work?

Bunker 15? They're like, oh, I don't know what that is, but I'm sorry. Who's your boss? Pepe the Frog? Jesus Christ. Really?

Bunker 15. It's the Wojak meme. Bunker 15 juiced the Rotten Tomatoes scores of the movie Ophelia because when the reviews came out, it was so this is a feminist retelling of Hamlet starring Ophelia. And the reviews came out and it was coming in at a 46 percent, which classifies it as rotten. classifies it as rotten and then bunker 15 offered critics in quotes 50 or more to post positive reviews which bumped the rating up to fresh and the next month the movie was acquired for distribution so damn for 50 bucks starting for 50 bucks it's so low like that's why it's so fucking cheap like what y'all if you're so to sell out your little Rotten Tomatoes cred,

go get some more fucking coin than that. It just shows you how much people are fucking whack as fuck in sellouts and have no morals or ethics. But they're also like, here's the thing you don't know. I do about 40 of these a day. Right. When I get 50 of these, i'm making two grand a day actually i'm doing all right yeah i mean that is how they think though i bet i'm sure so bunker 15

denied the allegations but also admitted they have a quote small handful of writers that are set up that are set up a specific system where filmmakers can sponsor or pay to have them review a film, which doesn't sound like a denial of the allegations. I like how they go, hey, man, are you paying critics to pad the reviews of films that are your clients, that are your PR company? We absolutely deny that, Miles. No. We do have some critics who will be paid.

They got the same PR company as Trump, huh? I know, right? I did it, but I protected, so. Yeah, right. They're saying we're covered on the Presidential Records Act. So next question, my honor. And since the Vulture piece went up alleging all of this, the Ophelia page has disappeared from Rotten Tomatoes.

What? And wait, and they use this to secure distribution yeah so that's that's that's there's gonna that like that feels like a lawsuit from whoever bought the distribution rights for that movie yeah oh yeah it's really oh wait i don't think that thing made much money oh shit whenever so if you google it it'll give you out like a result on google then you go and guess what homie it's 404 baby not here that the droids you are looking for are not here these are not the droids you're looking for that movie ended up making 242 000 which i think is probably more than anybody paid to. It made $242,000.

It's not good. But yeah, like Rotten Tomatoes just has always seemed completely suspect and like arbitrary. You'd go, you'd see like a movie that like doesn't have good reviews and you go on Rotten Tomato and it would be like 76% like fresh. It's like, well, what's anybody's anybody we're just we're just taking their word for it and they've also like there was they delayed the posting of the reviews of justice league when that came out in 2017 like it got real bad reviews but they like wouldn't post the reviews for a while because they wanted people to buy tickets they didn't want anybody to find out the movie was bad yeah one of our earliest episodes was i remember us talking about that and we're like what they can do that and then we're like oh warner brothers

owns it okay i guess they can't do that shit rotten tomatoes it's so wild that like this country is so like freedom of speech freedom of speech and at any chance anyone gets like but how much does it cost to get you to change that speech right right exactly how can i buy cost of speech yeah cost of speech like god that's so wild i mean we got discounted speech over here if you're looking for it shit it's also like i know that when i use like yelp because i don't i don't use raw tomatoes i don't give a shit about movies but um when i use yelp i'm definitely always like i can't trust you like i hate i hate when like you read something and you're like this has nothing to do with the food right well you know right because there's there's yelp reviews or you go oh you fucked up on your anniversary dinner bro and you're taking it out

on this restaurant that they didn't have x y and z because it's like i made i made a reservation that day and then when we got there, it's like, hold on. My favorite, of course, is the, I eat here a million times, but today. And it's like, why didn't you review the other million times? When he killed it. That's the actual review I want. But anyways, so I'm curious when you guys use Rotten Tomatoes, is there ever like you feel like this person is insincere or this is a suspect?

Like, can you can you read that the way that you can kind of see it in Yelp? The other thing that's really weird is that I don't know. It's totally subjective whether a thing whether a review is rotten or fresh, you know, like like if they give it like two stars, sometimes they'll put that as rotten or as fresh. Like it totally. Oh, that's weird. Like it's. Yeah, it's really.

There's a there's a lot of like shading. Consistency. Yeah. Consistency. Thank you. Which is why if you'll if you'll check your inbox, I've just sent you a 15 page slideshow. Metacritic is the superior website. Metacritic is the superior website. Metacritic, the superior website.

All right. Marcella, such a pleasure having you. Thank you. I wasn't mean. You were so wonderful. I was so boring. It was so great having you slightly higher. Yeah, I'm kind of bummed out.

Yeah, there you go. Bring it back. Where's that? Dial the smoke up real quick. I'll come back. I got to promote. I guess I'll take us to the show. So I was like, let me be nice.

Even though I don't like being nice. No, I mean, you are. I don't think I think it's a misnomer to even categorize you. I agree. You know, Miles, we agree on that. Yeah, we agree. I want to work on a bit about character versus demeanor. Yeah, because people confuse your demeanor with your character and this is not

how it should be. But, you know, people aren't ready for all that shit. Oh my God, she said please. Shut the fuck up. She stole your husband when she said please, bitch. That's so dumb. Anyways, that was my final rant.

Thank you so much. You can find me at Marcella Comedy. And now, reminder, I will be headlining the Hollywood Improv September 15th. I'm coming to Chandler, shit. Anyways, that was my final rant. Thank you so much. You can find me at Marcella Comedy. And now, reminder, I will be headlining the Hollywood Improv September 15th. I'm coming to Chandler, Arizona on September 22nd. I'll be in Portland headlining High Note Comedy on the 28th. I'll also be opening for Michelle Buteau. So if you got tickets, I think there's still one more show with her.

I'm excited about that. I'm also coming to the Santa Cruz Festival in October. And I'm doing Vegas in November. But I think I'll be back to kick it with that. You guys do that. Thank you. Amazing.

Do you like doing Vegas? You like doing Vegas shows? It's my first time doing Vegas. Oh wow. It's the middle of the week show so I'm excited about that because I really feel like the weekend crowd

is fucking too insane. Yeah. Bonkers. You're going to have people who've already like lost their mortgage. Oh my God. I mean you're going to have that any day of the week.

But on the weekend, there are people coming to have a weekend to really lose big. Exactly. Somebody who already legally died at a hospital and then came back drunk for your show. Yeah. During the week, you got all the people that have their little vouchers and their discounted rooms. Yeah, the pros. The pros. I am excited about that,

but I don't know how that's going to be. I've never done Vegas. I'm excited. Piece of media I'm enjoying is my friend Corey LaCasic has this, you guys would appreciate this. Oh, fuck, I had it written down in the room and I had it come down here,

but I think it's like Molly Bro on Instagram. He's going viral right now because he was at Burning Man. And so he just is like doing like a, Hey guys, do you need a spot? If you want to sponsor us, we're here stranded. Just $1. We'll get us. If a million of you donate $1 can get us hella Molly. It's just like the funniest, stupidest shit.

He's part of a crew called the dress up Gang, which Frankie Quinones is also in, which you guys know is Creeper from Cholo Fit. It's just such a funny character. His name is Molly Bro on Instagram. Oh, fuck. I think I have it wrong. Let me see if I can't pull it up. Official Molly Bro is his Instagram handle.

That's amazing. And he has really silly Molly content and it's actually very funny I don't do Molly but I can appreciate a good character why not of course and Miles where can people find you is there a work of media you've been enjoying yeah find me Twitter

Instagram all them at based life forums at miles of gray you know where to find us with our basketball takes that's miles and jack got mad boosties you like 90 day fiance check sophie alexandra and i out on 420 day fiance and uh true the true crime show check it out the good thief please check it out and let's see a tweet i like uh from britney nichols at B is hilarious, tweeted, strike knees to end. You know how many birds I can name now? It's too much. And I feel like if that's the metric you're using, like, oh, no, I've become a bird watching fool.

And now I'm having arguments over what kind of hawks there are. I get it. Maybe outside a little too much. Wait, I always saw her at was bish hilarious. Wow, I've been reading it wrong this whole time. I mean, I think I feel like it could be both because I used to read it like that too. And then I was like,

well, it's B is, but it's also look, it's, it's up to the reader. She's a great, she's a great writer. I think we can all agree on that.

Oh, we can all agree on that. We got people find you. What's a piece of, Oh my God. You're enjoying asking. You can find me at Jack underscore O'Brien. Uh, tweet tweet I'm enjoying

is from Brian Jordan Alvarez who tweeted, Courtyard Marriott, Marion Cotillard. Really makes you think. And it did. All night. I couldn't stop thinking about it. Also, can I just... Sorry. You guys should be saying an ex that I like,

not a tweet that I like. Fuck that. Absolutely fuck that. I'll just give you the dirtiest look. I will not. Ex formerly known as Twitter. Fuck you. Every publication in America.

I'm sorry, Jack. Where can people find you? You can find me at Jack underscore O'Brien on Twitter. Twitter. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and

our website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes on our footnotes. Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what is a song that you think people might enjoy i think we're gonna go out on a little bit of uh some uk rap here some drill from quang face k-w-e-n-g-f-a-c-e this is the remix to the track freedom it's called called Freedom 2 with Joy Orbison and Over Mono, I think, are the beat makers

that flip the beat. But anyway, Freedom with the number 2 by Quang Face. Get into it. Alright, well we'll link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it

for us this morning. We are back on Monday with an episode where Miles and I are going to tell you what was trending over the weekend. We'll tell you stuff we think is overrated, underrated. Monday, like early afternoon-ish. And then Tuesday with a special episode. And we'll talk to you all then. Have a great. Oh, and there will be a highlight reel of the best of this week.

Oh, yeah. Over the week. Oh, yeah. Over the weekend. Oh, yeah. The weekly zeitgeist. So much shit for you guys to pay attention to. Did you guys do like a VH1 countdown style? Of our greatest hits? Yeah.

Number five this week. What is it, Jack? Number five. Brought to you by Coca-Cola Classic. That's right. By Pepsi One. We're leaving money on the table by not doing that. Yeah.

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