The Daily Zeitgeist - NO LIBS = NO FUN, Gentrification Explanation? 7.7.20

Episode Date: July 7, 2020

In episode 666, Miles and guest host Jamie Loftus are joined by comedian Pallavi Gunalan to discuss new evidence in the Breonna Taylor case, more info on the Parler app, what is going on with Quibi, a...nd more!FOOTNOTES: Discontinued Candy Breonna Taylor’s Family Says LMPD Search Warrant Was Tied to Louisville Gentrification Project in Updated Lawsuit ‘Parler feels like a Trump rally’ — and MAGA world says that’s a problem Is Anyone Watching Quibi? The streaming platform raised $1.75 billion and secured a roster of A-list talent, but it can’t get audiences to notice. WATCH: ENNIO MORRICONE -"Death Rides a Horse" (1967) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:22 for a little bit. You thought, what happened to that substitute teacher? Did he get fired? Because I know his car always smelled weird, like weird tobacco stuff. Oh, he never gets fired. Never. That's the beauty of the teacher. I was in the lab finding new DVDs in the discount bin at the Salvation Army that we can watch instead of
Starting point is 00:02:39 learning today. And that means welcome. We're watching yo did you what okay so i'm gonna completely derail the intro of the show i went to school with the kid from blank check really ryan slater's uh christian slater's younger brother okay he was also in the great panda adventure okay he gets kissed by an adult in there Yeah Whoa That's fucked up Yes, but he also had an indoor roller coaster So that was kind of a flex too That's true, that's true There was good and there was bad
Starting point is 00:03:12 Anyway, welcome to season 141, episode 2 of the Daily Zeitgeist A production of iHeartRadio This is the podcast where we take a deep dive Into America's shared consciousness or unconsciousness and just say off the rip, fuck the Koch brothers, Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Buck Sexton, J.K. Rowling, any TERFs, any racists. If you're not about inclusivity, just shut the shit off because you're not going to like anything you hear. Okay?
Starting point is 00:03:39 All right. Still in? Great. Yes, it's Tuesday, July 7th, 2020. My name is Miles Gray, a put on your mask put it on when your grocery shop is so the germs be stopping gotta get these numbers dropping um i if i didn't have the beat i kind of messed that up shout out to at core kids for that because i want some covid 19 put your fucking mask on now six feet please um and i've made up that part just to make up your substitute energy yeah we're
Starting point is 00:04:15 dude where you do the old ass wash tune from like the 90s that like you're like what the fuck i've never even heard of that song was he having a stroke and i was like and here is a vhs tape of shaquille o'neal reminding you to not smoke weed like yeah and here is a here's a polaroid of me with a single shack sneaker from a field of dreams sports memorabilia chain store that used to be in the malls okay now who is that oh well that's my guest my guest co-host i am thrilled to be joined by you. And I'm just going to talk to you. Thank you, little Zam, for coming here, for being here.
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Starting point is 00:05:16 On the daily side. This is the corniest shit ever, but every time I hear that song, I just am brought back to my mom waiting outside for me somewhere. You just hear the song coming from her Honda CR-V. Right. Oh, she's here.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Oh, I can hear it. Wait, what did I hear? The deal has come. Give me your heart, say real, or just forget about it. Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. That was a run. That's how you know your mom has arrived.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Give me your heart. Be real. I don't even know the fucking word. This is a vibe. Forget about it. Rob Thomas doesn't fully close his mouth in that entire. He goes, give me your heart. Say real or just forget about it. Rob Thomas doesn't like fully close his mouth in that entire like Kind of like Dave Matthews There was like a little time when I was younger where I was like Rob Thomas
Starting point is 00:06:16 Because I would always think he would like direct CW shows or something Different Rob Thomas Different Rob Thomas Wait what shows did Rob Thomas show on? Hold on, I have to look this up. But while you look that up, allow me to introduce yourself. This is today's guest, the hilarious, talented, brilliant, turned her back on science for comedy just to come back to science
Starting point is 00:06:39 and split the difference and do it all. Please welcome Pallavi Ganalan. Thank you for coming. Hey! I think you just sent something into the chat because this is the brilliant Thomas the writers because they have to specify writers parenthetical writer
Starting point is 00:06:55 Veronica Mars 90210 party down iZombie what's iZombie not this is not your average Rob Thomas is iZombie like a's iZombie? This is not your average Rob Thomas. Is iZombie like a Latinx show? I have no idea. Oh, I thought it was like iZombie. Okay. Bad joke. Gotta go. It's stylized like iCarly.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Wait, what was all that shit about? What did that mean? They were iPhones? They were computer zombies. No, I don't know. What was iCarly? A human? Oh, yeah. Well, iCarly? A human? Oh, yeah. Well, iCarly was the name of the web series that Miranda Cosgrove hosted. It was just a commentary on how we're so attached to our phones that we can't distinguish between our children and our robots.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Wow, wow, wow, wow. Okay. Yeah. Anyway, wow, wow, wow. Okay. Yeah. Anyway, different Rob Thomas. Different Rob Thomas. This is why, this is like my eternal issue with men that have two first names. It just gets so confusing so fast.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Another relevant one, when I was a kid, I thought Michael Jordan, the basketball player, was invested in the prison industrial complex. It was another Michael Jordan. No! It's like this old white dude. And I was telling everyone, I was like, yeah, he's a bad guy.
Starting point is 00:08:13 They're like, what? It's so wrong. They're like, he should have said something during the 92 riots, and he didn't. And you're like, oh, okay, I guess we are talking about the same person. Yeah, there is that thing as a child when you're like, two people can have the same
Starting point is 00:08:27 name and not be the same fucking guy? No. Otherwise, me and a realtor in St. Louis have a serious problem. There's another dude in the office in St. Louis, and she's selling houses. I've dethroned her as the first result. Oh, good. Does she have, what kind of, she have what kind of like what kind of price point are we looking at in the houses i mean i don't mean to throw shade or get classes
Starting point is 00:08:48 here but you know is she moving major land i don't know she's in oh oh she moved wow everyone she moved she's in missouri now she looks nice she she actually does seem like a sweetie and i've known about her for as long as I've known about computers. Is this a podcast that we're doing? Should we leave her a good review? Does someone have a podcast where you go and you stalk people with your same name and the whole thing's building up to a Zoom call with them? Well, that would be great.
Starting point is 00:09:19 I've lost my girl room. Let's forget about it. Give me a heart, cut the tape, or just forget about Zeitgeist and do this new show. I'm sorry. What happened to us? Today's going great. You know what it is? I blame it on the cold brew because I told y'all before, this is the first show I have
Starting point is 00:09:40 recorded since quarantine off of that Kirkland Signature cold brew. So that could have a bit of it, you know? And I don't know if you can see my jugular bursting through my neck skin through the Zoom call, but, oh, it's a vibe. Is Jamie clawing again like she was last time? No, that was an early coronary depressive state. Cloftus is dead. Whoa, Cloftus is state. Cloftus is dead. Whoa, Cloftus is dead?
Starting point is 00:10:08 Cloftus is dead. Yeah, I've been growing and changing quite a bit. I'd love to see it. You'd love to see it. No more Cloftus. Okay, well, Povie, before we get to know you even better, let's just tell people what we're going to do. Okay, we're going to talk a little bit about a new development
Starting point is 00:10:22 in Breonna Taylor's case because her family updated the lawsuit with some very disturbing allegations. We're going to check in again. I know I think y'all talked about Parler a little bit, the right-wing Twitter site, but there's some juicy tidbits about this thing that we love a good story where we get to spike the football on a failed right wing attempt at an internet thing um and this is a great opportunity to do that we'll also talk about um one of the top movies on netflix wasn't love uh or 365 denis or some of these other ones it was actually the boston bombing movie mark walberg patriot vehicle patriots day uh and i remember intersection of things that i
Starting point is 00:11:06 hate yeah this is like the crossroads at the gates of loftus hell i feel like uh so this is a badly rendered we'll talk a little bit about that because there are some things i i remember turning it off like starting it and there's like one couple years ago uh but as i read a little bit more about what jm uh you know observed in this i think it's worth talking about we'll also talk about this quibi story that we're gonna have to keep talking about because it is so juicy and you know we like to we love a good quibi dragging here um yeah so there's just one excerpt i just want to read and we can discuss because I'm not joking. This thing is probably like a 25 minute read as I was scrolling.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Is this like the Vulture novel about Quibi? I'm a slow reader too, so it might take somebody else a quick Harvard 15. We don't know. Then we'll talk a little bit about other stuff if we have time. But first, let's get into it. Pallavi, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Okay. I had two things that say very different things about me.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Okay. One, I had to Google what Patek was because Megan Thee Stallion had it in her lyrics. It's a fancy watch. I had to know. Yeah. Valiant had it in her lyrics. It's a fancy watch. I had to know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:25 I was on Instagram stories. Whenever I put the songs over my stories, I have to know what the lyrics mean. For sure. Yeah. I'm like, what am I conveying here? She's a scholar. Yeah. And then I read about mirror stage theory, which is the point at which children are able to perceive themselves in a mirror and realize
Starting point is 00:12:45 it's them and that and how they are perceived outside of themselves it's okay so this is you said mirror mirror stage theory yeah what it why is it theoretical still well okay well that's like a sciencey thing where it's like theories are like um it's a different kind of definition than like non-scientists have it's like pretty well established uh still it's like different kind of definition than like non-scientists have. It's like pretty well established still. It's like a lot of like experimental information. Oh yeah. What am I thinking? Like,
Starting point is 00:13:09 yeah, like chaos theory or other things like, I, yeah, I'm like, Oh, it's a theory. Like atomic theory.
Starting point is 00:13:13 Sure, sure, sure. All of that stuff. So this is the point where your brain, cause yeah, it's funny when you, you fuck with a baby who's not there yet.
Starting point is 00:13:22 And they're like, this fool doesn't even get it. It's them. And they don't even know that yeah yeah to the point where the it starts firing like it me i think it's i mean i kind of am curious of um it how like phones factor into mirror stage theory for babies now too because it's i i like facetime my cousin and her baby all the time and she's i was like does does the baby know it's her when she sees herself in like your phone right yeah like i'm not sure yet like i think that's what
Starting point is 00:13:52 that's why i'm on all the time that's why i was i have to find there was like a whole twitter thread about like some movie or show and then they analyzed it down to like mirror mirror uh stage theory and they like it was about like phones and how like we like perceive and back to i carly baby exactly there's six degrees of i carly today i feel like so damn old i was watching babysitters club on netflix and you know there's like these nods to like the you know the late 80s 90s vibes that i was reared on when that book series was out um and there are times like it was just funny how they were treating like the technology then i'm like that is you know as an old as an old you start going these kids they only know the internet
Starting point is 00:14:36 huh they don't remember when he just used to fucking know, drink hose water and get sick from it. Anyway. I don't know if that's an internet thing. At least the internet would tell you that was bad. My new favorite old man yardstick. I need to, okay, I need to clarify. I said science-y, but this was like a psychoanalysis of this one dude. He's the one who theorizedized this thing so who the fuck
Starting point is 00:15:05 knows how so maybe theory in this case just means i remember learning their theory in like some like psych 101 class yeah college maybe yeah but i don't i don't know the but yeah you have to imagine that phones with i don't know i'm just like does my niece know that she looks like a goof or not? Well, my parents don't know that. So like maybe like they always have the phone like this. Right, right. That's a generation of people who are completely unfazed by what outward depictions of them are. You know what I mean? Like especially like Asian, old Asian people, like you look at their vacation photos from them when they were younger. This looks like a police lineup. You know what i mean like especially like asian old asian people like you look at their
Starting point is 00:15:45 vacation photos from them when they were younger this looks like a police lineup you know what i mean no one it's very like stoic and i get like back in the daguerreotype days like you would have to stay still or the shit would be all blurry because the fucking you know the the lens was open or the shutter was open but this like how that extends to like selfie video it's like there was never like oh how do i look on this thing it's like i don't know is it getting my face also like i don't like this technology like getting some of these older japanese relatives i have to do like zoom calls they're like we don't need it i'm like the fuck you mean you don't need it i'm not i'm not saying you need i'm not trying to sell you and i'm saying this will be a nice thing to do
Starting point is 00:16:23 ah there's we got a phone. That's fine. They're calling you ugly, man. That's what they're saying. That's true, dude. Or they go, oh, wow, your face looks rounder. I don't need your face. No, they say, oh, your face is rounder. I thought you were exercising.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Huh, okay. Weird. What is something you think is underrated? Underrated. Oh, I was looking up canceled candies. There's a bunch of candies that have been canceled. For, like, racism? From, like, no.
Starting point is 00:16:50 For, like, just discontinued. Maybe we should call it that. Oh, I like that better, though. Got my ears up. Like, candy cigarettes and stuff like that? Or, like, Dr. Pepper gum. There's, like, something called jaw teasers. I would go the fuck in on some Dr. Pepper gum. There's like something called jaw teasers. I would go the fuck in on some
Starting point is 00:17:08 Dr. Pepper gum. Yeah. There's just a whole bunch of like childhood candy stuff that we only got to experience for like a second. And my friend and I were like reminiscing and we're like what happened to this thing? And then I just started looking up. I'm like sending you guys references.
Starting point is 00:17:24 I know. And like I'm checking too. I'm like sending you guys references. I know. And like, I'm checking too. I'm like, huh, these discontinued. I'm like, I remember these Brax vanilla cherries. Some of them came back through like other companies or like later. Right, right. Because like Necco wafers almost bit the dust. Oh, that's. I wish they did though.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Those are also disgusting. I know. Those were made in Revere, Massachusetts for a long time. And there was like the big factory and it was like the pride of Revere is Necco Wafers. But they were disgusting. They are trash. Back when you used to drink out of those Necco Wafers. Hey, yeah, put some hose water in your mouth, swish it around and then put the dustiest candy in the entire world.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Beer box of hose water. We call that Pepto-Bismol. There's something called... It just sucked all the moisture out of your entire body. There's something called Anise Bears, and I'm like, that's never going to... Nobody likes Anise, and that's not going to be good. I hate that flavor. Like, black licorice can make me...
Starting point is 00:18:23 I don't like it. I remember, you know, the old... I like black licorice. The sniffy markers remember the fat i don't know scented markers back in the day that had all like the blue like the berry characters and shit on them and they were like the black one smelled like blackish oh my god i remember i would throw it away and get in trouble because my parents like why do you keep throwing this marker i'm like because i can't be near it remember when they tricked us
Starting point is 00:18:43 into eating like terrible jelly beans, like the leftover jelly beans, by making them the Harry Potter mystery flavor, and then it was like barf? And it's like, this is clearly leftovers from the factory that you just wanted to sell. No, no, they're birdie butts. They're birdie butts.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Why is this much? I know, I know. But they're terrible tasting. Why did we do that to ourselves? Welcome to the old folks rant on the Daily Zeitgeist. Okay, next up. What do you think is something that is overrated? I have, I very, in quarantine, very rarely shaving my legs.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Is anyone doing it? Is anyone trying to keep up? No. I'm not doing it. I can't. I go outside now. I'm running around just full. And it's different, Jamie, for you than it is for me.
Starting point is 00:19:28 South Asian. Very few porn stars for this reason, I assume. But I'm like, I'm just out there with my leg hair out. I don't give a fuck. And I might never go back, you guys. I don't know. Let it go. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:19:45 My partner, Her Majesty, she's not shaving a damn thing. And I'm like, yeah, what the fuck? Do whatever the fuck you gotta do. A lot of people are leaving the bra for good, too. Like, it's a soft liberation. I can't remember the last time I seen a bra out in the open at home. Yeah. For who?
Starting point is 00:20:02 For what? For what? Unless it makes your life more comfortable. I sometimes have to wear it. I'm wearing one right now because of the shirt. But also I tutor children. So sometimes I'm like, put your tits away, me.
Starting point is 00:20:15 These kids can't see that shit. Oh. That's fair. Hopefully a lot of these newfound freedoms we have, we can take with us out of quarantine because there are some certain aspects that like, I think we've learned to simplify about our lives that I think have been beneficial aside
Starting point is 00:20:36 from like the, you know, financial turmoil and global grind down of everything else. Yeah. But we're like, but we're like prioritizing better, I think. Oh yeah, for sure for sure 100 um and finally actually you know what before we get your myth let's let's let's take a second really ruminate on this myth and then we'll come back uh to get that myth right after this senora sex ed is not your mommy sex talk. This show is La Plática like you've never heard it before. We're breaking the stigma and silence around sex and sexuality in Latinx communities.
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Starting point is 00:25:01 And we're back. And finally, let's round it up.ivie what is a myth what is something people think is true you know to be false or just flip that on over vice versa um i actually got an argument with a friend because a white friend because they thought that most of the indians in the u.s are republican because so many of the famous ones are like Bobby Jindal. It's like all the famous political Indians are like evil.
Starting point is 00:25:33 But like most of the voting base is like we're all Democrats and so like everybody I've interacted with across the country I've met like one Indian Republican and that's it. I don't know but yeah i think it was like over 70 for hillary or something like that but i think you see too
Starting point is 00:25:52 because the conservatives love to embrace a token minority at any moment so yeah it's true like though in your mind it's like well politically i'm thinking of these people but yeah yeah uh it for the most part i think most people come to the united states with it like a decent like at least a different perspective on how the world works when they arrive here versus you know americans who are just you know we're in this one culture that they can typically be like yeah yeah yeah i can see what this is going on here i I prefer this, this side over here. Cause I think I know where this one goes or vice versa, but anyway. Yeah. And I think also like our, like,
Starting point is 00:26:31 we're not like encouraged to like be politicians. So like the people that are, are kind of like outliers, I think. And also like we are like, we're just, I think like Indians in the U S are just realizing that we do have like political power after like gaining financial stability here because it's that immigrant mentality of like be doctor, be an engineer, get your shit together. And then now like my in Utah, all of these like Indian people like donated to the Democratic Party to like oust this person who was like uh who was like a republican in that seat and they i think they were able to do it and i'm like fuck yeah dad go off go off yeah i think what's cool i think another thing that's interesting and i i wasn't i don't know i wasn't sure how to bring it up not like it that it's uncomfortable but it was something i was
Starting point is 00:27:20 thinking about uh while i was you know looking for for DVDs to bring in to be a substitute teacher. A friend of mine works in government in Colorado, and he's been looking a lot at what's been going on in the country. I think there is a moment here where a lot of people are coming in touch with their power on some level, whether that's being like, I'll stand up more vocally for the things I believe in, or I'll confront injustice more head on than I used to. I won't retreat in the face of these things. But one thing that he was mentioning is like, there really is a problem with our generation even looking at working in government as a possibility, right? Not to say that it's a good or bad thing, but he works with a lot of these people who are of the same mindset that the elected officials, that's not going to be a problem. Those voices will naturally come out there. I think most people would, they look at that as being the cool thing of being front and
Starting point is 00:28:16 being an elected official and having this pulpit to preach from. But there's also this thing of the bureaucracy of it all too, because at a local level, these people are also having the kinds of ideas of like, well, what do we do with this budget surplus? And if there aren't as many people who are in the same social justice mindset and things like that, those ideas can fail to materialize in an effective way because of all the hands that are on it on its way to becoming a reality. So it's just something interesting because they're saying like, especially with Gen Z, more than millennials even, are completely like, they don't even give, like the idea
Starting point is 00:28:54 of working in government at all in any capacity is like a total like non-starter. So something to think about. That could actually like work against us is what you're saying. Yeah. Or, you know, like the kinds of, because at the end of the day like sure the policies will be there but then who are the people really putting them to work and are they doing it faithfully and are there enough people who understand what the intent is of these laws or whatever to work it out but yeah you know i just and gen z's like fuck the system i think everyone is to a certain point yeah
Starting point is 00:29:24 rightfully so. Yeah. Fuck I'm going to do. Or you look at it like, oh, I work for the government. Like, that's literally how I feel like I would think about it in my head. I'm like, oh, yeah, for the go. Okay. But that's put on my tie and fucking not smoke weed.
Starting point is 00:29:37 That's 100%. Like, that's 100% when I was a kid for some. I don't know if my parents ever explicitly said it. Like, they definitely wanted me to be an engineer. But they like, I don't know if my parents ever explicitly said it, like they definitely wanted me to be an engineer. Um, but they like, they, I don't think they ever explicitly said it, but somehow I knew I was like, if I go to the military, if I go into some government positions, I'm going to be responsible for killing people. And like, I need to stay the fuck away from that. Like, I just knew as a kid, I was like, I'm not going anywhere near that. Like that is not for me. And like, I, there are plenty of people who,
Starting point is 00:30:06 um, yeah, like you said, who would like actually like change the system from within that are being like that just never, it's never an option for them, which it's protective, but no.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Yeah. And I have like friends who, you know, like work specifically on things like healthcare, like for a County or something or a state. And they know like what healthcare would mean to the people of like of their county or state. But then they have other people who are still looking at the whole concept of it completely wrong.
Starting point is 00:30:36 And then you end up being like an isolated voice in a sea of like this monolithic thinking. So, yeah, not to say that like we have a duty to do it. But it is interesting to think about is like, as much as we want all these changes to like, there, there really needs to be a way that we are at the levers at as many points of contact as possible, because I think that's the only way to optimize a lot of the change. But, but I don't think it's, you know, that's one way of looking at it because i think at the end of the day people are going to do what they want to do and engage with a system of government that they want to or don't but it's i thought it was an interesting idea it's like
Starting point is 00:31:14 it's like short term versus long term yeah short term like we have to we have to have people in there now to like stop the damage of people dying now long term we have to like totally revamp the system right right because it's like if you're signing up for a life in like any sort of government employee and you want to do good you're just signing up for a life of extreme frustration at every single turn right and like yeah where how are you able to balance that and and at what point does it become worth it versus not because it's like are you it's one way to look at is are you working for the government are you trying to change something internally and i think it's a dangerous game to even think you can because god help me i tried getting up in the system we could do something i'm like nope but i think i just think just very
Starting point is 00:32:00 practically right like sure a law is put in, but then those regulations have to be written. And then someone's going to have to build a website and communicate that to constituents. And if those, like, the people who are in those positions, like, aren't up to scruff, then, like, people are going to be like, yeah, what the fuck was that program? That didn't work, or this or that or the other.
Starting point is 00:32:20 So just a thinking, just something I think about in my bed at night after drinking a full gallon of hose water yeah as i'm having yeah like a weird fever from like giardia i'm like dude are there enough bureauc are there enough of us being bureaucrats fuck keep this government going or what? I'm like, how do we burn it? Do we burn it down? Or do we like smolder it down from the inside?
Starting point is 00:32:51 Is the call coming from in the house? All fucked up on hose water. So pardon me, guys. Blame the LEDWPs. Do not also, do not look at those water reports. Okay? Oh, God. I don't want to know how much crypto-spiridium I've ingested.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Okay, so let's move on to some other news involving Breonna Taylor. As you all know, she was killed by the police with a no-knock warrant that shouldn't have even been served. And the city, okay, so her family is suing the city because everything about her death was preventable and was completely unnecessary and avoidable. Her family has updated their lawsuit on Monday and or over the weekend with some really, really disturbing allegations. They're saying that the whole reason why that no-knock warrant even was served, because we were like, this didn't, like, everything about it was so fucked up. Like, the person they were looking for was already in custody what was going on they say is because it's part of a larger very aggressive gentrification scheme in the city and essentially there was a a police squad that was called the police-based investigations unit they'd
Starting point is 00:34:00 quote deliberately misled narcotics officers to think they were targeting a major violent crime and drug ring. Taylor's family is saying that the warrant was specifically to go after her ex, this guy, Jamarcus Glover. And what the lines are pointing to is that Glover lives in a city owned home in this area where the mayor's office was like completely has like designated for this thing called the Vision Russell Initiative. And it's a multimillion dollar revitalization or gentrification project, which basically means we got to get rid of these poor people so we can build fancy nice, nice, and then allow people with more money so we can make more money off of this property. Because, you know, this city owned housing isn'towned housing isn't really doing it. So essentially, these warrants weren't necessarily to go after her. It was to put pressure on her ex-boyfriend to kind of make the situation untenable and to chase these people out of this specific neighborhood. And that is why this warrant was even served.
Starting point is 00:35:04 So yes, that is very, very dark, if true. I mean, the mayor's office and other city officials are like, that's absolutely absurd. And then they're like, it's disrespectful for the people that are involved with the Russell, Vision Russell initiative or whatever. But I do know this, whether or not this is true, gentrification is a violence, uh, no matter how you cut it. Um, and I, you know, I, I can, there's, there are many stories that aren't even like Breonna Taylor's where, uh, people are meant to feel not welcome or safe in the areas they live because real estate developers have their eyes on that property and just want to come in and do that. And the police do a really good job of working with real estate owners,
Starting point is 00:35:50 real estate developers. As we've seen during the uprisings, they were more than capable of protecting very expensive properties. And I can just speak in the city of Los Angeles, you have someone like Rick Caruso, who built like the Grove and Americana and many, many others, billionaire real estate development. This man was also on the head of the LAPD like police commission too. And the current head of it, Steve Soboroff is another huge real estate person. So this is the thing we've always been saying is that the relationship between police and private property is very, very intimate and has very, very clear lines between them. So I just hope at the very least this pursuit of truth can continue because it's really disturbing to hear if this is actually even close to the truth.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Either way, no matter how you look at it, this whole thing is fucked up. Whether she was killed unnecessarily or killed because they needed to build some new shit. Even close to the truth. Either way, no matter how you look at it, this whole thing is fucked up. Whether she was killed unnecessarily or killed because they needed to build some new shit. And no matter which way you look at it, the extreme tone deafness of the mayor's office coming back saying that this is an... Like Breonna Taylor's family's lawsuit
Starting point is 00:36:58 is somehow insulting to this gigantic gentrification project. It's insulting to this private property. Wait, so I have a couple questions. So the only thing that isn't a fact that's in this suit is their accusation that they deliberately misled the officers, correct? Like everything else is fact, right?
Starting point is 00:37:20 Yeah, like there were five, her ex had five warrants issued on March 12th. So that. And one of them was that no knock warrant. And those warrants were for what exactly? So this one specifically was alleging that Breonna Taylor was receiving drug packages from her ex-boyfriend. And because presenting it as like, this is a violent drug ring that you're going to have to go and bust up. They dropped charges against him, right?
Starting point is 00:37:48 Well, I mean, we do know that there were no drugs ever discovered at the apartment, so I don't know that there are still existing charges against him. I mean, they tried to fuck him up from defending their lives. I know that, and the only reason they dropped the charges was because of outrage.
Starting point is 00:38:04 I mean, a lot of what this story indicates, I mean, it's it is like another really brutal, gruesome reminder to try to get involved and understand what is going on on a local level. Because, I mean, the fact that these these situations are connected are by no means a mistake. these situations are connected are by no means a mistake. There's so many examples of like in LA as well of city counselors taking money from real estate development and intentionally sabotaging the people that they're supposed to be serving in favor of whoever it is. It's bottom out. A lot of times it's real estate. Sometimes it's connected to the police department as well.
Starting point is 00:38:39 And like, it just makes it very easy to not just do things like this, but, but get away with it pretty easily. This is Chinatown. I mean, it's most city counselors are simply bought out. Like it's,
Starting point is 00:38:58 yeah. I mean, like we're, we're like trying to get one in that, like we, we can say most likely is not. And like, that's the first step we're trying to get one in that we can say most likely is not. And that's the first step we're trying to take in the city. And even then, it's like one out of how many.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Yeah, exactly. It also kind of boggles my mind how many battles need to be fought because the new the law that they established um that the people lobbied for that we like petitioned for in louisville was the ban of no knock warrants right when i first was looking at that i initially thought it was like banning no knock warrants everywhere it's just in louisville that it passed meaning it can be implemented in fucking every other city and we'd have to like fight it individually in every city so it's it's just like it's interesting how like it trickles from you know city state federal and like and the implications of what that mean and like what are like city city rights and states rights and all of those when we when we have have like laws like this, because like, I, I wish like this only galvanized one city and it, it, it was a story that took the nation,
Starting point is 00:40:10 um, by, I guess by storm or whatever you want to call it, but like it only galvanized one city to ban no knock warrant. So like, do we have to do this again? Like, do we have to do this every time this happens? Like, why couldn't we implement a federal, like, federal legislation to ban this? It's such a, and it does, like, rely on people remaining, like, engaged in, like, sustained interest in stuff that can be really, like, confusing, boring, whatever it is, where, like, I forget who said it recently, but just, like,
Starting point is 00:40:42 people are just hoping to bore you out of staying engaged with issues like this because they get so dense and so confusing. And I think we're already seeing examples of, like in New York City, cutting funding to their school police budget. And you're like, oh, cool, win, we love it. And then a couple of days later,
Starting point is 00:41:00 they're just rerouting that money in a different way to get it back to the same place. It's like, well, we're doing it to these community safety services. Oh, shit. Really? Yeah. It's always a shell game. And I think we need better transparency laws, even with the police budgets and things like that. But again, this was just the beginning in terms of like anyone's advocacy who's,
Starting point is 00:41:25 you know, woken up to things since May 25th. So it's just the beginning. And like you're saying, Jamie, I implore you, we implore you, learn as much as you can about who is the most powerful, who are the most powerful people in your city. You should really know that much. Like, cause these people have a huge hand in a lot of the you know the things that are going on people that you can firsthand bother all the time like
Starting point is 00:41:49 to the point where they see your name and they get mad did you know that the the weekly jackie lacey protests on wednesdays have been happening for like five or six years yeah did you know that i had no idea no no it's been happening These fucking BLM activists must be so tired. It's been happening for so many years and I had no idea. Yeah. And they've just been showing up every fucking Wednesday trying to get her out of office. And I think, you know, luckily there are people, many more people now. How terrible Jackie Lacey is.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Because, you know, in the in their city elections are just like all right i'm a democrat what who's the okay great boom done great carry on like what will happen uh but yeah gotta gotta be careful okay so let's move on to parlor uh the the the coolest app out right now uh for for people for conservatives who just want who are concerned about freedom of speech and censorship this takes signal and takes it to in the opposite the opposite direction um yeah so you know right now obviously the conservatives favorite sport is yelling obscene racist nonsense and then claim censorship uh on a privately owned website that is not the government. But OK, censorship. So that, you know, social media tends to be like the last place where these
Starting point is 00:43:12 like right wing ghouls and goblins can engage in their trolling and just overall pwning of the libs. And but they always find themselves on the wrong side of Twitter bans. And that's why they're like, you're being censored. Just because I'm not even dog whistling, I'm bullhorning anti-Semitism with these memes I'm posting. I'm just saying it out loud over and over. I'm like, George Soros is a Jew who controls black people to kill whites. Okay, send. You're like, that is not a dog dog whistle that is not a whistle of any sort that is a very very aggressive yard sign actually you were so you know song they all these cries of
Starting point is 00:43:55 censorship has you know led people to be like essentially especially from i think the left even saying what rip like what conservatives say to people when they criticize, if a progressive criticized the country, it's like, well, if you hate it so much, why don't you go start your own country? Why don't you leave and start your own country? So this is kind of a logical extension where the right is now, why don't you go start your own Twitter then? Why don't you go off, do your own thing? And you can just be you guys, just do your own and just not bother anybody. And they did, hence Parler. guys just do your own just not bother anybody and they did hence parlor um and just reading their about page is fantastic just gives you an idea that this is such a safe space it says parlor is
Starting point is 00:44:31 a non-biased free speech driven entity our goal is to offer the world a platform that protects users rights supports publishers and builds online communities parlor aims to empower users to control their their social experience. Users can be responsible to engage content as they see fit. We are not regulators. We are not governors. We are a community. Parler accepts your right to express your thoughts, opinions, and ideals online.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Okay, so remember that. They accept your right to express, unlike Twitter. Right. Yeah, it just sounds like a terrible place, to be honest. Just like Twitter. Right. Yeah, it just sounds like a terrible place, to be honest. Just like Twitter. I mean, yeah, it's like, not that Twitter is a fun place to be, but it's just...
Starting point is 00:45:12 I mean, and there's been a number of apps like this that have cropped up in the past as well, and they all sort of tend to be done away with kind of quickly. I remember there was one called, like... Do you remember? This was a couple years ago, but it was called, like,
Starting point is 00:45:24 The Great American App. Sorry. No. I unplugged my headphone like, do you remember? This is like a couple of years ago, but it was called like the Great American App. Sorry, I unplugged my headphone. What would you say? There's oh, there was something called that. I think it was. Let me double check. But it was I think it was literally called the Great American App. That was like another conservative, you know, just a place where people can be racist towards
Starting point is 00:45:44 each other all day long. I thought that was Facebook. That's the thing. It's like they don't even really need their own because they're already doing. I think they really wanted to, though. You know what I mean? Because the thing is sort of like. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:46:00 The Great America app includes ride wait times for your favorite rides. An interactive guide. Oh, that's Six Flags Great America app includes ride wait times for your favorite rides and interactive guide. Oh, no, that's Six Flags Great America. They have an app, though. Six Flags is riding the wave into the future. It's called Great America was the name of the app. I think it no longer exists. All that to say, there have been attempts at this before, and it never works, and it's always really embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:46:28 And the problem is, right, and this is where we begin to see what the real relationship is of conservatism in this country to, you know, I guess the rest of society. So when they have their own private party, they go, and they're like, oh, finally, they go. And their whole thing is like, well, A, like i think like 400 000 people on here there's not that many people on here and everyone is just singularly all maga minded which means there's no libs to fucking pwn or to troll to the point where this is in this political article they say
Starting point is 00:47:00 quote the magification problem is so bad that ceo and founder john matt has openly begged progressive pundits to join the platform offering a progressive bounty quote unquote of twenty thousand dollars to any left-wing influencer with a following of fifty thousand or more users on twitter who make an account he's begging he's gonna pay as they see libs to come on so they so his like to defeat the purpose sad sad audience has someone to like argue with that's where we're at willie can i pay you to come over to play with my child is that okay because i know mike no one likes to play with my kid i will pay you to come over uh and then maybe he'll just throw shit at you. Can I?
Starting point is 00:47:46 Okay, I was trying to find it. I can't find it. But there was somebody who got on Parler early, two people, and they made the real Candace Owens and the real Tommy Lahren accounts before Tommy and Candace got on there. And I was trying to find it, but it's so funny, dude. They're progressive people who just made those accounts. They got to.
Starting point is 00:48:09 And they had like 60,000 followers immediately. That is wonderful. So I think all to say that their experiment is backfiring. You know what I mean? Even one of these people who's describing Parler in comparison to Twitter, this guy Will Chamberlain, is just trash. He says, the question is not pure engagement. The question is influence.
Starting point is 00:48:29 Twitter is interesting because there's so many people, prominent people, that can be influenced. Parler is not that. So this idea that it's like, so you need to go to a larger platform to influence people, but they aren't interested in your bullshit and therefore cannot be swayed so your solution is to keep saying the thing that is only repulsing people like the loop is really flawed uh much like yeah any kind of you know shitty ideology but it's really like in a way i'm like i can't believe some people have to begin connecting the dots on some level right because i mean not that i i count them to think be that critical but the maga set has to know like they can't go beyond the cis headset in terms of people they can bring in so like what what's gonna give it going to give here? It's just, it's, like, it's interesting because, like,
Starting point is 00:49:27 I think for people on the left who are, like, influencers or activists or whatever, like, we are fighting for people, and it seems like these people just, like, very literally are just fighting against people. So if you, like, completely disengage and don't give them attention, which is what everybody is, like, saying to do with gun girl and Tommy Larian, it's like, they're literally just making money being shit bags because they know that they can make money doing that.
Starting point is 00:49:54 And culture like rise out of people, they can get a rise money doing, they'll make money. And so it's, it's like, it's more evil than the people who like actually believe that shit because it's like, Oh, you're literally just doing this for money. It's not even some idea that you're right.
Starting point is 00:50:11 And so when you remove their source of income, then they have nothing. So it's like, oh, it's just very clearly painting a picture that you are only adversarial and are not part of a community that's fighting for a greater good because like if you take what happened with like my milo yiannopoulos like back in the day of like people just stopped engaging with him and he kind of had to disappear like yeah completely deplatformed lost everything and you should because you can't you shouldn't be able to profit
Starting point is 00:50:41 off of hate like that and i think to your to your point, right-wing celebrity is just built on unsustainable ground to begin with. Because like you say, you gain notoriety by saying provocative shit that is on the fringes of acceptable discourse or public discourse to an audience that is only seeing destruction. They go there because it's like break some shit i want to see you fuck shit up there's no interest in growth absolutely zero interest in growth it's pure destruction which is just like the logical pivot for powerless people is the next best thing is if you can't build then you can destroy uh because then at least you can feel some power in the destruction of something so when when your celebrity is built on something so
Starting point is 00:51:31 like you know chaotic you're naturally just gets you ostracized from the mainstream yet they they need the whole thing is like their existence is purely built on just being in opposition to whatever they perceive as the mainstream so it's just like yeah like if your whole complaint about a site is that there aren't enough people to troll then like on your own site then you were never interested in freedom of speech to begin with you know what i mean what the fuck are you doing like how are you spending your time um just explaining to people who agree with them why you shouldn't care about other people yeah it's just boring very i i i did just want to because i'm looking at the basic rules of parlor or listed in the doc and i will just i mean just a quick what are some highlights for you well well unlike
Starting point is 00:52:18 the mental organization in parlor you cannot threaten to kill anyone in the comments section that's not in the tos for mensa the terms of service why they kept threatening to kill me and then no one kicked out wait they kept threatening to kill you there was like one guy that would repeatedly just like yeah non-stop and and they wow you should have you should have been on parlor come debate me on Parler, coward. It turns out that you're safer on Parler. Yeah, you're safer on Parler than in Mensa. Doesn't that look at, I mean, Mensa is a supremacist organization,
Starting point is 00:52:55 but that's another story. But the rules for Parler are your username cannot be obscene, like cum dumpster. I like that there's an example given. He had to write that. Like, thanks. He's like, what's the most obscene thing I could think of? Wait, he said cum dumpster i like that you really had to write that like thanks what's the most obscene thing i could think of wait he said cum dumpster in there yeah like cum like cum dumpster e.g can you what about cumster yeah yeah what about what about what if your cum dumpster is
Starting point is 00:53:18 your last name what if you're michael cum dumpster what are you supposed to do that naster for cum no pornography doesn't matter who what where when well ted cruz is out ted cruz is out he is not gonna be on parlor dude what conservative uncle wrote this in what realm dude you know why okay because you so okay you know the other one what was the other one that said feces uh there's something they had to separate that yeah it said it says yes this is another one when you disagree with someone posting pictures of your fecal matter in the comment section will not be tolerated but can i listing out literally someone else i like
Starting point is 00:53:57 that they're like not yours i'm like okay this is my this is my my friend my post yeah yeah your own poop well i think this is the thing a lot of leftists and progressive trolls signed up in numbers also because you know the trolls be trolling no matter what side you're on you need each other or else you just well what is life and a lot of people were like dude they were they were like immediately kicked out and so they were like they're like okay cool free speech thing here you're like just because we come in here to argue with the thing which is what people wanted already but i'm sure there are people doing like the pig ball poop image and like they only take one one type of shit posting okay again it's just like that i mean i know that the we've been just but like this time
Starting point is 00:54:47 last summer we were doing this to the jeremy renner app and now we're doing it to fucking oh the most evil conservative apple this is the same way that the jeremy renner app was uh was taken off line was with these with these exact tactics and that shit worked if we could take renner down we can take carla down everyone get excited and it was like launched in 2017 the jeremy renner app was meant to be a place to do fun things and then it got taken down jeremy renner i mean we we talked about it basically all last summer but like the jeremy renner app you could buy stars. So you were giving Jeremy Renner money so that Jeremy Renner would see your comment. And then you could also give stars to other users.
Starting point is 00:55:31 But you're still just giving Jeremy Renner money on an infinity loop. It's madness. It's genius. Okay. Renner app's gone. Let's do it to Parler. Done. I mean, Parler,'s gone. Let's do it to Parler. Done. I mean,
Starting point is 00:55:47 Parler, it's just pretty chill, you know? Like they say, the biggest complaint is it feels like a MAGA rally and that's from their own users and they're like,
Starting point is 00:55:54 yeah, I get it. So it's sweaty and like, it's an old man ranting. Some of you are getting Corona as we speak. Somehow through the phone.
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Starting point is 00:59:57 Listen to Señora Sex Ed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back and i want to take a second you know i thought we would talk about mark walberg but i want to talk about i want to talk about quibi actually because you know i think the three of us here we're in la we know comedy we hear things we know about the industry we hear a lot about quibi we're in LA. We know comedy. We hear things. We know about the industry. We hear a lot about Quibi. We're like, how the fuck is Jeffrey Katzenberg paying people $100,000 a minute? Really quick, has anyone on the Zoom call worked for Quibi? Oh, sweetie, I don't work.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Oh, did you? Okay, okay. Just me, just me. Did you? You work? Yeah. Oh, okay. But I am very curious about, I mean, my curiosity is, like, selfishly, I want to know if the
Starting point is 01:00:50 show I worked on is ever going to be released or if the app will fold before it even gets finished. Well, there's a piece in Vulture where it is such a lengthy read. I'm going to, we're going to fully talk about this article at some point but i don't know this it could just basically be like wow these old people basically blew through two billion dollars almost to make an app that a lot of people aren't using uh it starts off with like an anecdote from scott gardner talking about how he went to go pitch something at their offices and he said it was the most i think like quote like the most cocky pitch environment he's ever been in it was like wolf of wall street and not because it was
Starting point is 01:01:29 like debaucherous or anything it was because like everything was so over the top like the the lobby of the building was like extravagant then he was moved to a second larger lobby a phase two lobby it opens with they're talking about my my friend scott who does the um who does podcast the ride which is a podcast i would recommend that's funny that he went to quibi yeah and one of my favorite cartoons tiny puppets on youtube uh the muppet babies rip off with cremant um so dude it's so funny so this so this one article this is one of these couple paragraphs i think sum up what's going on uh like just how bad it is right because everyone was like oh quick bites that's what a quibby is use it in line when you're at the store blah blah blah um
Starting point is 01:02:19 and somehow the people behind it meg whit Whitman and Jeffrey Katzenberg were like, yeah, I think this is exactly what the youth need. And this is the thing we'll put all this money into. Jeffrey Katzenberg, I've been involved in a previous Jeffrey Katzenberg joint attempt at trying to dominate
Starting point is 01:02:38 the YouTubes, and that did not go very well. Let's just say his notes I didn't agree with. The show could have been in a completely different direction, but he knows everything clearly. Now, so I have an ax to grind. The pettiest man alive. I got an ax to grind with old Jeffrey.
Starting point is 01:02:54 So this is from this Vulture article. It says, quote, people have wondered why Katzenberg and Whitman, in their late and early 60s respectively, and not very active on social media, would believe they have uniquely penetrating insight into the unacknowledged desires of young people. When I ask Whitman what TV shows she watches, she responds, quote, I'm not sure I'd classify myself as an entertainment enthusiast, end quote. But any particular show she likes, quote, Grant, she offered,
Starting point is 01:03:21 on the History Channel, it's about President Grant. So that's... Oh my God. This fucking Boomski could only name a History Channel show? That's a joke you'd write in a bit. Yeah. These people are, they are like,
Starting point is 01:03:40 they're fucking old. Meg Whitman was on the ground floor of ebay wasn't she like they're there's just so much and she had a failed bid for the governor's mansion in california i'm just imagining them like like this stereotype of like a tech company but like these old people trying to act young on like rolly yeah yeah there's like thank you and welcome to quibi yeah and then they're like little hats spin they're like oh have you seen our fucking cafeteria it says yeet yet all right so then this next paragraph uh is about jeffrey katzenberg quote katzenberg is on his phone all the time but he is also among the moguls of his generation who have their emails printed out and vertically folded for some reason by an assistant.
Starting point is 01:04:30 What? In enthusing about what a show could mean for Quibi, Katzenberg would repeatedly invoke the same handful of musty touchstones. America's Funniest Home Videos, Siskel and Ebert, and Jane Fonda's exercise tapes. Yeah. You're back on board. We're back in. We're back in. home videos, Siskel and Ebert, and Jane Fonda's exercise tapes. Yeah! You're back on board. We're back in. When Gal Gadot came to the offices
Starting point is 01:04:53 and delivered an impassioned speech about wanting to elevate the voices of girls and women, Katzenberg wondered aloud whether she might become the new Jane Fonda and do a workout series for Quibri. Apparently, her face fell, says a person briefed at the meeting.
Starting point is 01:05:10 So, yeah. Oh, my God. I mean, Gal Gadot sucks, but, like, that's so... That sucks. That also sucks. Everything in this sentence sucks. Yeah, yeah. More on that later, Gal.
Starting point is 01:05:20 What about this? What if you wore a spandex lycra jumpsuit and you exercised for quibi how about that idea now let's forget the elevating the girls getting fonder enough enough of the broad's voice crap right get to the sweating it's uh very very dark but also makes sense you know because like i think in like in anyone's career especially working in media like you work for like older people a lot of the times you're like what the fuck are you doing why are you calling the shots here like you just have worked here the longest you don't actually know the most you've just worked here the longest that isn't a quality
Starting point is 01:05:59 the next paragraph i was just reading and it was like him complaining about a black man's afro not looking authoritative enough. Like, this is out of Mad Men. What the fuck is this? That's why this needs like an entire fucking episode. Good lord. Called Two Old People Walk Into a Fucking Asteroid Worth $2 Billion. I don't know. I'm still workshopping the title of that, but we'll get back to that.
Starting point is 01:06:23 I don't know. I'm still workshopping the title of that, but we'll get back to that. And anytime that something like this actually does work out, it is usually because these old ass people have hired and underpaid young people to work underneath them and then take credit for their ideas and take credit for the success. I'm saying rise people. It doesn't seem like that's happening. Young people rise up against the olds. And then let's just. Deplatform Jeffrey Katzenbergberg yeah de-platform this billionaire please i mean you knew it was a rap if his like if he's his one of his touchstones is america's funniest home videos which is already a derivative work from a japanese thing so
Starting point is 01:06:56 yeah man uh quibby quibby it up y'all although i yeah yeah i was i was supposed to watch the dog show the dog mansion's house i didn't i still haven't got what yeah i forget is there's a dog yet i might have paid for it by mistake there what i forgot to unsubscribe i might have paid oh shit was it is it is the 90 has the 90 days passed i was hoping that my timeline would remind me before the 90 days passed? I was hoping that my timeline would remind me before the 90 days passed. I don't think it's passed. I think it's like soon. Panic unsubbed to Quibi. It's called Barkitecture?
Starting point is 01:07:30 Yep. No! To take doghouse designing to the next level? Snap, snap, snap. The upcoming mobile-only streaming service is producing a luxury doghouse building called Building Show. Yep.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Oh my God, even the picture is of a woman in fur with a dog with a wine bottle in its mouth and straight from katzenberg wouldn't that upset the dog though the fur i don't know no oh my god did y'all see there was one i saw that was so bad i thought it was a joke on quick how did how did they manage to put class issues into the dog world? I'm just looking at these dogs, and I'm thinking about dogs in rescues being like, fuck the system. Right. They're everything on Quibi.
Starting point is 01:08:15 I mean, there's some stuff that works. I watched some of their game show stuff, and that can be fun. I think I got charged for Quibi. The game show, the Matt Rogers thing was great. Yeah. I think I got charged for Quibi. The game show, the Matt Rogers thing was great. Yeah. I think I got charged for Quibi. You got charged? 90 days from April 6th, which was the launch date, was yesterday.
Starting point is 01:08:36 I think you can still dispute it. You can tell them that you don't want it. I should be like, check my work. I haven't opened it in 88 days. I'm sorry. I got to end the episode right here because I have to panic on subscribe to Quibi. Oh, my God. Sound off in the comments that you also got accidentally charged for Quibi today.
Starting point is 01:08:53 Yes. That's so unfortunate. Anyway, look, we'll just get through this, okay? We'll do what we got to do. I'm so mad. We'll get our $4.99 back somehow, some way. Pallavi, thank you so much for joining us today. Where can people find you and follow you and support you?
Starting point is 01:09:10 And what's the tweet that you like? You can find me everywhere. Pallavi Ganalan, P-A-L-L-A-V-I-G-U-N-A-L-A-N. That's my Instagram, my TikTok, my Twitter. That plus comedy at gmail.com. I also have a supporting Black Lives mailing list and Google Drive that accumulates just fucking everything. Petitions, donations, action items, businesses, people to support, like abolitionists on Instagram, like resources, including books and movies. And we
Starting point is 01:09:46 have a book club and a, and a movie club. Um, and yeah, so, uh, DM me, message me. There's like a signup sheet that I can, I can post somewhere. The drive is in my, is linked in my bio. Um, this is, I'm going to send you the tweet that I liked my, uh, uh, fave podcast fave here, Harper Rose Drummond. I'm sure you guys went over the, the whole Chris D'Elia stuff that happened. But Harper, we were, we were crazy tweeting jokes about everything.
Starting point is 01:10:16 And Harper tweeted out, she's at Harper Rose D. She tweeted out guys will be like, she never said her age. And she tweeted out a picture of like a family friend of hers, I guess, uh, sitting at a table with her when she's a literal child.
Starting point is 01:10:30 Oh, I saw that. Yeah. She, she messaged me. She was like, is this insensitive? And I was like,
Starting point is 01:10:36 bitch posted. It was so funny. Oh man. I love it. Jamie, where can people find you? Follow you? What's the tweet you like? Uh, you, I'm it. Jamie, where can people find you, follow you? What's a tweet you like?
Starting point is 01:10:47 I'm still like, my heart's sunk at this whole Quibi situation. Getting charged. I want my $5 back. Okay. We'll get it back. We're going to get it back. If we have to march on fucking Meg Whitman's house with pitchforks for five bucks, I'll be like, look, we can make this really easy. To the west side and go to Meg Whitman's house with pitchforks for five bucks. I'll be like, look, we can make this really easy.
Starting point is 01:11:05 I'll take the bus to the west side and go to Meg Whitman's house. Okay, so you can follow me on Twitter at Jamie Loftus Help for as long as I can stand that platform. And then Instagram, Jamie Christ Superstar. I wanted to just share,
Starting point is 01:11:20 because I referenced how the NYPD is kind of rerouting and uh school money back into school police um there there is a bunch of uh new york times stories that explained it better than i could but there is this bill de blasio quote that is just such horseshit that i wanted to read uh it to you and he says uh good management and we have very good management at the NYPD right now, finds ways to use overtime when absolutely needed, but not overuse it, you know? And that's something that Bill de Blasio said while he was rerouting money back to the police. What's a tweet that's fun?
Starting point is 01:11:58 I don't know. When was the last time I... Oh, okay. Here's a tweet from Caleb Heron at Caleb Says Things. Me, this will be over by August, smiley face. A doctor online. Today I did surgery on the roof of a hospital because indoors was full.
Starting point is 01:12:14 Me. September, smiley face. That's funny. You can find me at Miles of Grey on Twitter, Instagram,station network uh and also my other podcast 420 day fiance where you know i'm just getting faded talking about 90 day fiance so myself on my wounds that is being too aware of the news every day uh one tweet i like first
Starting point is 01:12:40 is from at because of lwt uh just says caps. Do not vote for Kanye as a joke. Do not vote for Kanye as a joke. Do not vote for Kanye as a joke. Do not vote for Kanye as a joke. Do not vote for Kanye as a joke. Do not vote for Kanye as a joke. Do not vote for Kanye as a joke. Do not vote for Kanye as a joke.
Starting point is 01:12:57 Please don't. And another one is from at local underscore underscore celeb. It says therapist should tell you one secret in exchange for every five secrets you tell them i think that's fair i saw that one too anonymous they could be anonymous secrets it's like a little just tell me something it could be made up but if you tell me it's like a secret i will love it i'll love it and i will and i won't tell anybody i'm good ask her ask about me yeah it just seems like um and like uneven power structure for them to just like know everything you know honestly i would become a therapist just for the secrets
Starting point is 01:13:32 yeah i'm like bro you don't even know have tea with that team you're at your interview to go to grad school for that yeah i just like to hear secrets so i think it's a job i'd be really good at yeah that's why i want to get this i don't even have to tell anybody i'll keep it in but i just gotta i have to know for me for myself you know me baby test me test me tell me a secret love a secret love a secret love a secret love a secret nope empathy i don't know what what's that they're like you're patient you're patient's like, and then my dad beat my mom. And you're like, oh, shit. Oh, damn.
Starting point is 01:14:09 That sucks, though. Loki, that's wild. He runs a YouTube tea channel. They're like, yeah, my mother actually had an affair with my uncle, my dad's brother. Oh, are you for real? It is piping hot. Yo, your mom is wild and full. Is she for real right now? Now now this is about 15 years ago oh
Starting point is 01:14:27 my god so are they still fucking um i'm here to talk about oh yeah yeah i'm sorry i'm a follower on instagram though uh yeah what's her handle and you know what that actually is our time for today so thank you so much um okay let's also say yes where you can find this show Twitter, Instagram Twitter you can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram at The Daily Zeitgeist we got a Facebook fan page we got a website www.com
Starting point is 01:14:55 www.comzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes .com.com .com where we post all of our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. As well as the songs that we write out on. And you know what?
Starting point is 01:15:13 Just because I'm just on my like frat boy college dorm room bullshit. Ennio Morricone passed away. Who is the great composer of many spaghetti westerns. And you know, a great, great composer. Sam spaghetti westerns uh and you know a great great composer uh sampled in many great songs and you know a couple weird directors also really like his music too uh but i just want to go out on one of the songs that i really like it's from the uh soundtrack of death rides a horse and it's the main theme from death rides a horse uh his i don't know man great music to listen to put on the background uh do that and you know we'll be back tomorrow i think the teacher
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