The Daily Zeitgeist - No Parking = No Insurrection? DeSantis Has No Charisma? 04.04.23

Episode Date: April 4, 2023

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Season, I'm going to just say it right now, 282, episode two of The Daily Zeitgeist. It's season, okay, season 282 episode 2 on a Tuesday, okay? I think that's, if y'all don't believe in God yet, I'm pretty sure that was a pretty good argument as to why you should go to church this Sunday. Not just because it's Easter.

Not just because you should be asking for redemption. Anyway, this is still a production of iHeartRadio, and this is still the fucking podcast where we take a deep dive into Americaica's shared consciousness it is tuesday april 4th and that's no joke 2023 and what is april 4th what's 4-4 it's actually uh not even one of my favorite time signatures but actually it's national vitamin c day national chicken cordon bleu day national hug a news person day yeah if you're an actual

journalist you deserve a hug not if you're an actual journalist you deserve a hug not if you're you know some you know writing for some right-wing trash trash thing uh and it's also national walk around things they don't know what that means national school librarian day shout out mrs barkley my original school uh librarian she had the i don't know why she had the best energy of anybody in my school and probably she was like yeah the way i could be around these kids is that i'm around these books for 60 of the day and then it's a some other branded holiday from a brand that does not sponsor shows so we don't have to we don't have to talk about that um anyway i'm miles gray aka big daddy grain aka father of the guy's child

uh he just got some of his inoculations today and he did fantastic. And by that, I mean, he screamed in ways I had never heard before. But quickly settled down. And I love you, baby. But who am I thrilled to be joined by today? Well, I've already. You know what time it is. I got somebody who has their ear to the street to the point that you thought they were elephant

because they somehow got their whole ear on the street and hearing every single thing that is happening in the street especially when it comes to media especially when it comes to new things that are coming out i know she probably saw the beginning of that leaked dc trailer with george lopez already because i know she's never slipping always tripping in a good way please welcome to the stage not only just a great pundit producer host just writer you name it all all the hats are being worn by joelle monique aka i'm gonna go elephant year because i like it i love me some elephants i'm gonna go aka lipstick don aka cinema princess oh i'm here princess yes yes thank you so much what's your favorite movie theater in LA? Oh, the one I go to the most is the AMC in Burbank attached to the mall.

They got two of the Dolby theaters and an IMAX, like two IMAXs. Oh, and you can drink in there too now. Yeah. And you can drink liquor. It's great. And the audience is fun. It's like a good mix of like industry people and like people outside of the industry yeah people don't know how to act right yeah it's good times but my favorite movie

theater is the ipic because oh yeah look you know we're bad and bougie over here you know what i mean cooking up popcorn with a uzi because that's what we do uh yeah i remember i went on a date once there and i had no idea this was years ago this is like when it first opened up and let me tell you 10 years ago miles he did not have he did not have a cent to his name and when he walked into that movie theater the way my eyes fell out my head i did the whole panic thing i i was like you know like when you put your credit card down like you know when you're troubling please pass and yeah exactly, you know, like when you put your credit card down, like, you know, please pass. And yeah, exactly.

And you know, like you kind of doing the quick math in your head. I'm like with tax. I think I might be able to snake the other day. Yeah. Woo. Anyway, I still seldom do I go because I'm like, I think I have that like that that like snap. I don't know that feeling of being like, oh, I need to get my girl real sloshy when she

is like, you know, I've had a bad day. Oh, yeah. I've had a bad week of being like, Oh shit. I know when I need to get my girl real sloshy when she was like, you know, I've had a bad day or a bad week and I need to decompress. I'm like, we're going to Ipik. We about to get stupid drunk and we're going to go see whatever super movie is out. And we go hang in the lobby and look at hot guys.

It'll be, it's a great way to decompress. And then we can eat overpriced truffle fries that come in a wire basket. That's what we do. Oh, Joel, truffle fries that come in a wire basket that's what we do uh joelle let's move on to introduce our next guest because this is what i haven't seen this man in a minute although i'm pretty sure i saw him at a birthday party a couple weeks ago and i had to ask lyra i was like is that nick

vaderot over there and he's like yeah i think that that is anyway oh i think i already i already told you who it is please welcome to the, a hilarious stand-up comedian, just overall fantastic person. And also, you might catch his new special on YouTube called For Amusement Only. Please welcome Mr. Nick Vetteron. Oh, thank you. It's so good to be here. And I tell you what, this is the fastest I've ever gotten here, thanks to National Don't Walk Around Stuff Day. I just, you know, what was national. Don't walk around stuff day. I just,

you know, what was it? I'm always walking through stuff. Yeah. It takes forever. So now I'm going around everything. And I tell you what, my world is completely changed.

I think this is amazing. I'm going to get in less accidents. Now I think less altercations on the sidewalk. It's I'm now that you said it, I'm like, what the fuck did I even say out loud? National Walk Around Things Day? And even as I read about it, no one even fucking knows.

It just said, it's a holiday open to interpretation. Very little information is available regarding this celebration. You're an anchor, man. I really love that for you. If you just give Miles something to read, he'll say it. Oh, yeah. I'm Ron Burgundy in it. I'm Ron Burgundy the fuck out of this place right now.

But one says it's figuratively one would walk around avoiding certain problems or potential problems. One would also walk around avoiding arguments. Certain situations are unwanted or uncomfortable conversations. This sounds like is this like introvert day? And like conflict avoidant day? It does seem to like celebrate. I feel like the internet has like said everything there is to say. Yeah.

So now what it does is it finds a thing, a different thing to say, and it acts like it's some new way to approach things, you know? Right, right. Instead of getting a divorce, just try, the new trend now is to get a new identity. And they act like it's a new alternative cool way to handle problems. Right.

And you're like, hold on. As I read this listicle, basically what they're saying is I'm faking my own death to get around telling my partner that I want a divorce? Like, exactly. People, it's a new way, you know, you should have the freedom, you know, the autonomy to have a new identity. It'll get them thinking we're in that when they're at the police, at the police station filing out a missing persons report, then being served with divorce papers. You know what I mean? Different kinds of thoughts go through your head.

But anyway, Nick, how have you been, man? I've been good. Yes. But going to, you know, parties again, you know, Adam Conover's birthday through your head. But anyway, Nick, how have you been, man? I've been good. Yes. But going to, you know, parties again, you know. Did I see you at Adam Conover's birthday? It was. Yeah. And that was I haven't.

Yes. I feel like I know like the pandemic's been over for a while. I still feel like I'm eating into social situations. It's over. It's over in the sense that like the main line out of like Joe Biden was like, it's over because COVID doesn't exist. And then cut to you was like, it's over because COVID doesn't exist. And then cut to, you're like,

it's still a pandemic, but yeah. For, for landlord reasons, the pandemic is over. Yes. Sure. If,

yeah, you can, I just got my new, my first rent increase. Oh wow. That's how I knew it was over. That was the, that was the timest stamped moment for me.

Yeah. I think also when the gas company hit like L.A. with that wacky ass bill at the end of last year. That's when they were like, OK, you know what? We're turning it the fuck up on these people. I could not believe what the gas bill that looks like your electric bill. A confusing time for all gas bill. That looks like a fucking Mercedes car. No, it's really an issue. Yeah time for all of us. Gas bill that looks like a fucking Mercedes car note. That's really an issue.

Yeah, fuck all of that. I mean, like, I was joking, but I told the billing department, I say, you're going to have to come get this shit, like, at my fucking house, because I will have a wound waiting for you. And if you don't know who that is, look up the Yoruban gods, because that's the one for war. I've been wearing my gas bill around my neck on a chain.

Just to kind of show off my money. Laminated. Yeah. Just like, there you go. Like, you remember Joy Luck Club in that movie where, like, the little girl gets on the cover of, like, Newsweek. And the mom's walking with the shit right in front of her so proud. Like, this is my baby on Newsweek. You're like, this is my gas bill.

Look at the bottom. Paid. Paid. Fuck out of here. All right. Well, Nick, we are going to get to know you a little bit better. But first, let's give people a little quick preview. I'm going to talk about still got to talk about this Trump indictment. You know, today, as you hear this recording, if he is not on the run, Mr.

Donald J. Trump should be marching his little behind to the courthouse in Manhattan to get arraigned and do all that. So we'll talk about what has happened since the indictment was announced and everything in between. And also just check in on the state of, you know, protests and things like that, because that has been a huge thing that he has been screaming about on Truth Social and just see at least how many people are there as of this recording then we'll check in with ron desantis who's you know just he he's kind of he's he's not doing too good based on some of the polling and just some of the the murmurs uh out of his office in regards to you know just generally how his book tour is going because apparently it's not going that great i know so we'll we'll check in with that and a few other things. But first, Nick, gotta ask you

as the guest on this show, what is something from your search history that's revealing? Something about who you are, what you're into right now? Oh gosh, you know what? The first thing that came to mind was that do you know you can't drive from, do you know

you can't drive? I've been watching you and buddy, you gotta use your turn signal. You gotta get a license to turn signal. You have to use your hands. They're not all Teslas. It has to say Tesla on it for you to... Watch this. Hands free. Let go and let Elon.

Let go and let Elon. That's what I would say. That's funny. It's a video of like, here's somebody sleeping while driving. Here's the worst part. It's a video of like, here's somebody sleeping while driving. Here's the worst part. It was a Ford Fiesta. Yeah. But you can't drive from North America down to Argentina.

I just found this out. And I was looking at my search history. So that was a thing I just looked up. There's a there is a region at like the smallest, skinniest part that connects like, I think maybe like Colombia to Ecuador, maybe. And there's just no road there. I think there's something called the interstate of America is that just kind of stops and it gets too hilly and too jungly and everything. And I was just like, I never, I never knew that. I just assumed you could drive everywhere. Yeah. Cause I know people that have driven like all the way up here from like Central America

and things like that. And I can, but you're saying that there there just comes a point where you're like hey man like what would you do like there's just no road travel at that point like i i guess there has to be a ferry situation i would assume but it oh but there's no road anymore like no they were because i was watching some video of like some of the migrants you know like uh that come from deep south america and they say that when they get to that point there's no road for them to even like walk alongside they have to carry all their crap across like these rivers and these hills and it's just like this really dangerous it's too dangerous for workers to even work there because they get you get bitten with mosquitoes and the heat.

Right, right. It's just dangerous for them. So everyone's just like, I don't know, figure it out. Fly down there. Maybe they don't want to connect with each other. There's some states in America that probably would rather if Florida couldn't connect to them. Right, right. Exactly. But no, knock on Orlando.

Yeah. Hey. But I just thought that was interesting and then i don't know what's for some reason the first thing that pops into my head is just like someday someone's going to tell me they drove all the way down to argentina i'm going to be able to call them out on it i don't know why that's the all my information i get is to call somebody out on it wait wait so wait yeah what was the like your mental path to call somebody out on it. Wait, wait. So wait, yeah. What was the, like, your mental path to be like, hold on, I need to get to the bottom of this. I've been trying to figure out

what's going on with South America for a while. I don't know. I kind of don't know why we don't help them out more as much as we help, like, other countries around the world. Well, we help ourselves too a lot.

Yeah, we helped ourselves to, like... Not necessarily for them, but for ourselves. Yeah, we helped ourselves to, like, fruit, you know what I mean? Where, like, Dole came in. Like, hey, you need help? And that wolf's like, we'll fuck up anybody

who's talking about sharing the profits of your fucking fruit. It even goes like, I mean, it's that, even earlier than that, they just like, Europeans came in and just like, just stole all their wealth and tore down their

structures of these massive civilizations. and just like just stole all their wealth and and then tore down their like you know their structures of you know these like massive civilizations yeah yeah yeah and it's just they've been kind of like screwed ever since and uh i'm just sort of you know it just feels like these people down there's a lot of people down there that need help that's why they're like you know taking that's why they're taking the chance across these like places with no roads that that that nobody wants to civilization doesn't want to go to. And it's like, I don't know. I've just been kind of fascinated that I don't hear this discussed more about how it got to be to that point.

It's well, it's the same way why a lot of people don't want kids learning about the civil rights movement and things like that. It's like if they knew what we fucking did, they'd be like, this place is a fucked up nightmare. So better than some money deracialize the rosa park story for god's sake so the kids figure it out which is their solution much in the same way like for all this hand-wringing about ms-13 it's like why don't you read a fucking article about the u.s interventions in el salvador and you understand right that we're the reason there's ms-13 and they're like, oh, the boomerang has come back. But hey, that's for another show.

Check out Behind the Bastards, where, you know, Robert will be talking about all that kind of stuff. It's a great episode. I'm on it. Yeah. Are you? Did you do one of those? Yeah. We talked about U.S. militarization in Central America post-World War II. Great. Yeah. Google School of the Americas. And you'll realize we had a really cool way to train people up on being like, oh yeah, y'all want to learn how to murder people that are like,

we should share the money. Stop that right in its tracks. Have a TV. Yeah, they're like, they're fucking socialists, man. This is how we're fighting the Cold War. Just with this shit. Anyway. Yeah. Moving on. Nick, what is something you think is overrated oh chat gpt i just think

it's incredibly overrated i i think it's like i understand ai is going to get to this one point but right now chat gpt basically feels like like like a mixture of uh google and carlos mencia you know it basically it feels like you're basically Googling everything, and then it's like Carlos Mencia is stealing material it's finding around the internet and passing it along as its own. Right. Because it feels like it's basically doing the sentence construction of Gmail, of the predictive text and all that kind of stuff,

and it's just taking the search stuff that you always did and figuring out a way to sort of like put it in like speaking terms but it's like it's not like what i've tried to get it to like write a sketch or write a joke write a story or a movie it's all i can tell it's lifting from other people's like sort of right intellectual property basically yeah yeah right because it's using the existing content that's out there to inform. Like, because that's the same reason right now. A lot of people, there's a lot of artists and like Getty is suing one of the visual AI,

like image creators, because again, they're like, I can see the photo that they're using that I own to even be the background for this Mickey Mouse, like hitting a fucking crack pipe in front of a Walmart AI thing that you have to make. You know what I mean? Yeah.

I wonder when they talk about slowing everything down, that, you know, when Musk is doing this pause with these other sort of AI experts, I always get a bit suspicious because I've seen this movie before because everyone else pauses while they go hard at developing the evil robots. And then they have evil robots and we don't have any because we paused ours.

The one part I feel okay about that is the amount of other people that are pretty seminal in the AI field, not just Elon Musk that have been like, these are real fucking questions we have to be asking with AI. This is already passing the bar.

We were joking last episode. We were like, wait till some dude pulls up in court and uses chat gpt to represent themselves in fucking court because they're like i might be able to i might be able to get through a whole trial with this thing but yeah yeah yeah yeah that's and they're doing like the legal work and the it's weird when they're like yeah there's a lot of concerns that them take them taking over jobs there is sometimes when i'm like writing comedy and i'm like oh like like because everyone explains ai is as algorithms which is like a kind of a vague term but i think it's mostly like if then statements you know and so and it's learning because it's like uh if most people are happy with this answer then this is the correct

answer if most people say this is not the correct answer, then it learns that that's not the best answer that finds a different one. But there is like sometimes comedy when you're like, if Donald Trump then joke about orange face, like I feel like it could figure out comedy that way. It's had some, yeah, it can do well with some like word pun type punch lines i've seen like people like construct jokes like that but at the end of the day like i don't i don't quite see it achieving the heights of comedy although it is helping people like get stuff out there for like sales pitches and other things like that are more basic that maybe require less style it's a great tool for brainstorming you know what i mean if you're like gosh i don't have any ideas or i'm stuck in none of these feel

right you can input whatever it is you're working on and it'll spit out a bunch of ideas that you can maybe like riff off of and build off of but as far as like constructing an actual you know script that makes sense that's going to actually pull on your heartstrings that is actually connecting to the human experience it's just not capable and it probably never will be i mean by chat what gpt what five just came out right is that the newest one or is it four yeah that's the one where they said let's pause after this one yeah and then by the time it hits like six or it has like you know uh whatever that in form of intelligence that all the experts are like that's when it's going to get messy yeah whatever albeit i'll just say this it's not taking my job

because i can barely speak incoherent sentences on life so fuck you algorithms that's all we can that's all we can do um what's something you think is underrated? Oh, underrated? I would say underrated being unverified on Twitter. Oh, go on. Oh, God, what a dream. I mean, you know what? This is how I kind of feel like everything right now. It feels when all these verified blue checkmark people are arguing.

And I feel like the rest of us unverified are like outside of this baseball stadium, looking in through a hole in the fence and watching everybody else. Like we, I feel like in all of these like elitist, you know, verified, Oh no. How will my followers know it's me? Right. How will my fans distinguish me from mimics out there? It's like, oh, I don't know. Maybe because you have one hundred thousand followers and they keep tweeting about Bitcoin. You know, I think it's I don't know. How will they know the White House from the real White House? It's like, well, one has Barack Obama following it and the other one keeps tweeting.

Joe Biden goes peepee in his pants i think you can kind of tell i don't think you vastly over or maybe underestimate the the willingness people are to like double check where this is coming from because like i agree i think you're right in that being unverified allows you to enjoy twitter in a way where you remember when twitter was fun we should go in there just rip on people and then they would disappear and like nobody's scrolling through your timeline to be like what did you say two years ago no yeah it's instantly just about that moment and then it was over and it was great and when you become verified you know and especially if you're like like i agree nobody people will know if it's me or not most likely like right uh you know the 30 000 people that follow me or whatever like speak on it with the name hi but so it's fine like

for me i don't like i don't care if i lose the check mark it was great when i was freelancing and had no money because it got me a lot of gigs but for like people that are actually famous like i think i think you guys reported on here but a while ago like the check mark started because people were using celebrity names to like groom children they're like oh hey i'm your favorite celebrity from this tv show uh we should go hang out i think you're like really cool like let's talk are you in school right now like creepy stuff and so it was like kind of essential for really really famous people to be like no this is my actual account i am not trying to contact your child right but i do miss just being anonymous on Twitter.

I can't say things anymore. People know where I work. It's frustrating. It's not fun. I know that. Every day I'm like, do I make a burner so people can realize? I think about it all the time. The fucking spice.

They don't know. I came from the gutters of the AOL chat rooms when it was truly like circular firing squad. Like, y'all don't fucking know. But, you know, with therapy, I was like, you know, I don't need to prove myself with verbal sparring anymore. What were you going to say, Nick? I think you could have, to me, like, I've always sort of had an issue with the blue checkmark system because it feels like a classist system.

You know, it basically says that some people are more important than other people. And like one part of social media that's really bad or dangerous that it makes people feel bad about themselves. And so any component that makes people like walk away and feel bad about themselves, like if somebody like if somebody has a tweet that goes viral, all right, and they're and they're blue check verified, people are more inclined to like check out this person. Oh, this is somebody of worth. Okay. But if there's no check mark, then this person, it doesn't matter. This person, this person just part of this giant glob of unimportant people that I, it's just their thoughts and ideas are not important enough to see who they

are as individuals. And it's just for me to sort of like absorb and take from them and not give anything back at all. I mean, what I think they should have is a verify. Everyone should be verified. You know, you should verify the famous people so they know that they're who's being inactive, but also like everyone. This would like crack down on misinformation. It would crack down on hate and division. If you could have culpability for the things that you say. And then you should also have

a mandatory burner account so that you can go out there and say the stupid crap that you want to say and or a fake name and get it out of your system. And there should be a column on Twitter for just to go into the gutter.

This is the next wave of social media. Everybody is anonymous. No photos. Don't talk about who you are. That's not important. Just share your thoughts. Share who you are. Well, Nick, I'll say this. I think you're important, blue check mark or not. You know what I mean?

I don't think you're a second class citizen. And you can join me and the other second class citizens down here in the unverified steerage class of the Titanic we call Twitter. But guess what? We're having more fun down here. Hell yeah. I just want my mom to like, my mom won't believe it's me.

And I just need to prove to my mom who I am. Yeah, right. Oh man. I guess worth maybe, I guess the only way I would ever use a verified account is if I got asked to use like Tig Notaro's account or something and then tweet from there. But that would be amazing. That hasn't happened yet.

All right. Well, let's take a quick break and we're going to be right back to talk. Just what's going on with all this indictment crap, guys? We'll find out right after this. all this indictment crap, guys? We'll find out right after this. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life.

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when the indictment actually came through and he was like oh man like you know he sent out a fund fundraising email like the second the like the indictment came down you know how much money he made in the first 24 hours four million dollars in 24 hours so it pays to be a victim no yeah in this sense when you have yeah commodified victimhood like trump has 100 it's a lot of things most of those donations are probably 20 bucks five dollars 15 you know what i mean i doubt that too many millionaires are throwing chunks of change in his direction anymore that money is just never it's gonna be in the toilet especially with the way it was worded it was like please you're gonna throw me in jail like aren't you a

fucking patriot you fucking lied to me last time motherfucker please and now's the time but yeah it I mean enough people I think were genuinely surprised because we played on yesterday's episode the sound that Fox News made when they announced he was indicted they gasped that shit was

funny like the fucking like there was like a like a like a break like a break in the airlock of like a spaceship. You thought somebody was assassinated. The gas they let out. Yeah. It was, they were like, this is the end. If they can get him, can they come get us?

Where's our legal team? I know. How are you going to actually protect it? So later today, because this is Tuesday, as you're listening to this, he is scheduled to appear in court for his arraignment. And if things go as expected, he'll be there. he'll maybe get his mugshot taken we don't know they said that mike's kind of up in the air but he'll get fingerprinted etc this that and the other but then he said he's going to give a fucking press conference right after this shit didn't the joker do this in the original batman he like gave a press conference after

that's what i'm picturing right jack nicholson up there yeah oh yeah give me those 1930s banners for sure i want like city hall decked in giant banners alex citizen king style yeah oh like revolution singing right yeah exactly but no prince this time i mean yeah i guess it would probably look more like in batman returns when cobble pot was running with uh what was christ Christopher Walken's character in Batman Returns? Because that had that very dark, like black and white, big banners, sort of back in the day sort of politics vibe. Anyway, so he's going to be giving a press. This is where shit could potentially get interesting or not because the biggest thing here as we've seen is

when you're on trial you just can't go out there and fucking incite violence against the judge or try and intimidate would-be jurors typically you'll be under a gag order so you have to keep your mouth shut you know to to prevent any kind of tampering of that kind. You know we can't do it, Miles. You know he's... No. It's so funny because, you know, he literally doesn't know. This has been his playbook locked in for the past, what, seven, eight years since he started his presidential run.

And so it makes sense that he was like, he was like, oh, someone let us know it's coming. Let me get my money up and get these lawyers paid so they can try to keep my ass out of jail but there's no way he's not going to rise to the like he's gonna send off his little tweets i know that the guy who um is it arraigned oh god i don't know our court system well enough but i know he's got security already on him like 24 7 going back and forth he's gonna do what he always does he's and he's gonna get his ass in jail i don't i think sooner that's that's what's weird though right okay

a normal person violates a gag order and yeah you can be found in contempt and you could go to jail but i think he is again he's so used to the fucking law not applying that a lot of people are just sort of saying like i don't know what's gonna going to happen. Like they said, in a normal case, someone like this, it would be like, they'll probably be, they'll be hit with a gag order, like at the arraignment,

but they have a feeling a lot of legal analysts feel like sound. They, they suspect that the judge Juan Mershon, he is probably going to maybe go like, not hit him with the gag order, warn him, be like, yo,

don't fuck, don't fuck around. And then potentially progressively ramp things up. But I feel like that may be already like a mistake to begin with. Because I think either way, he's gonna fucking talk and then test the very limits of being like,

oh, so what are you gonna put me in jail for contempt of court? And then like, yes, I bet you think they would. But we're so reluctant as like onlookers to believe that can happen. At least I think people who listen to the show and us who talk about all the time are like, I don't know if that's going to work. There's like what, three potential cases out for him. There's the Mar-a-Lago thing. There's.

Yeah, that are that are not civil because he has the E.J. Carroll suit and a $250 million fraud case that start in april and october respectively yeah and then there's a possible like federal one coming up that's not you know they're still building the case we have the goj with the special counsel yeah so it'll it'll be interesting because what what's seeming to me it's like okay people are coming to extract their pound of flesh and it's i mean obviously there has to be a because you don't you have to be you have to be somewhat careful because january 6th happened so we know things can get crazy and his supporters are in this weird space of being very pro-cop until they're confronted with a cop

who disagrees with them in which case they become very confused they're like fuck them up they're confronted with a cop who disagrees with them, in which case they become very confused. Then they're like, fuck them up! They're like, we're with you! What's happening? Why are you acting like this? We have to kill you, obviously. It'll be interesting to see what happens when they come face-to-face, especially in Garcetti's New York. He's so, so pro-cop. No, no,

we ain't in LA. Oh, I'm sorry. Not Garcetti. Eric Adams. Adams, thank you.ic adams super pro cop i'll be interested to see what happens i used to be one yeah she's able to get if trump's able to get a speech out what that will look like for his followers for the cops and then of course for the legal system i mean yeah it's just like you know we saw when roger stone went in his trial this dude was sharing pics of like the judge that was presiding over his trial with literal fucking crosshairs on her head. Yeah. And like he got hit with a gag or like, but I don't know.

It's like I feel like Trump has a little more sadistic flair than that, which is interesting. Yeah. Go on, Nick. Trump doesn't do press conferences. He does sets. He's like a comedian where he's like, by the way, after I get arrested, I want to do a set. I want to do I want to do some time outside of the courthouse and I'll do I'll do a loose forty five. Right. And and then he'll do all his bits and try to, like, you know, get some more political, you know, sort of. to like you know get some more political you know uh sort of uh will you have new material though nick will he have new material because you know he's gonna do the hits he's gonna say weaponized weaponized legal system sorrows never been more indicted than me right exactly it's here's the weird thing about this is that so you know everyone's always like it's political this is a

political thing and it's like i wish it was political uh because if it was political then with all these like different lawsuits they would coordinate with each other and they would do georgia first because georgia's like the biggest issue because that's like fundamentally you know yeah it's it's like it fucking with the with the election and um and and cohen but cohen went to jail or he got three years yeah for this this yeah for this and then trump was the guy who did this it's it's like cohen like drove the getaway car but trump robbed the bank and everyone's like oh you can't like you know arrest the guy who robbed the bank and and i think a lot of people like know that this is bad and people

that support him know that he did technically break a law but it's it's almost like your buddy you know like if you're in a bar and your buddy's in a bar fight and your first instinct is like it's probably my buddy's fault but I have to like I have to go defend him anyway I feel like that's what a lot of trump supporters they're just like we know he's wrong we know he broke the law but we like this idea that um that that we're being you know singled out and we're being oppressed in some way and right we're gonna and he'll bring you know white dominance back but he yeah but i get it he is my sloppy homeboy that does get me caught up in a lot of shit because i blindly follow him into every club where he's asking somebody if they're talking shit right and then you're like oh no no

no no and you're like i think he was man like with like clenched teeth and you're like fuck this is all gonna be all bad for us but yeah it is interesting to see him in this version of like legal jeopardy because before when he was president he clearly was like on top of how did the added benefit of like white supremacy and him being very privileged and powerful he was the president and now he's a citizen and like still trying to work within those confines it is going to be interesting because i wonder if it's like before i always like in like people that are this privileged like having the fucking star and mario brothers like you could fucking doesn't fucking matter, bro. Like, come at me.

I'm like, nothing's going to fucking happen. But now my man, my man has no fucking star and he's walking into a courthouse. And I don't know how much he will if he realizes he's now no longer flashing multi-colors with the new song playing or if he is gonna then if it would be fun it's just like yo i have no fucking time gag order say some shit i'm gonna hit you with contempt and then you will be in jail it's wild though because like okay two things are happening right so one thing is like america is looking and they're like so does our legal system work at all yeah like at all because it's blatant it's very in our faces we're all pretty sure we have the majority of the facts

necessary to be like hey yeah that guy's guilty as hell so that'll be interesting to see how that plays out but then i'm also interested to see like if his whole rhetoric is i'm a rebel leading our nation back to you know a prosperous place which is you know the ideals the ideology that a lot of his followers have then martyrdom i mean it's not death but jail time to them might as well be death like i really feel like this is could potentially be the start right like the thing that gives him all of that superpower right back is the idea that, oh no, they're, they're going to slaughter our savior and we really need to do something about that more drastic than last time. Cause clearly that didn't work.

Yeah. And it looks like world war Z with like all his followers, like storming the fucking courthouse. I mean, it hasn't quite, it's not quite there based on a lot of people who are monitoring a lot of extremism online they're like i mean it ain't it doesn't look like anything that happened right now because the conversation hasn't ramped up quite in the same way it did in the build-up to january 6th but hey uh i could be wrong because this place it's early days yeah so we will see uh where he ends. But yeah, who knows? Maybe he has an extra little Mario star in his pocket that he can just wolf down at his arraignment and then be like, sorry, you got to go. Everything you say doesn't matter. But let's do check in with the state of New York City because, you know, there's been a lot of talk that like in uniform, like everybody who is like available to be on duty will be on duty on tuesday today for trump's arraignment there aren't many mass protests on like saturday there was like one sad guy outside of the trump

tower with like a maga hat on and he was like i'm here man like this is not weaponized legal system george sorrell it was like are you guys all just saying this in the same order all right fine um but there have been like little things, skirmishes here and there. Like apparently in Orange County, there was like 40 MAGA people that got into some shit with like two protesters. Like with a few protesters, two people got hit in the heads with skateboards. I'm feeling the skateboards were not being brought by the MAGA people. I don't see them as a skateboarding kind. And then there have been like some bomb threats. not being brought by the MAGA people. I don't see them as a skateboarding kind.

And then there have been like some bomb threats. One Trump supporter was arrested for threatening someone with a knife outside of a Manhattan court. So people are like, you know, I think a lot of people say you can't count out any kind of lone wolf actor, especially as we've seen, like with like Alvin Bragg was got that note that's like, Alvin, I will kill you. And it's just like what there was like white powder in it or some shit so that is obviously a cause for concern which is why there's a lot of security there but yeah the nypd is still a little bit like

yeah i think i think i think it's gonna be okay like they seem to feel like there's not much ramping up or they don't see an influx of of you know shady people like uh getting around the courthouse but it's funny though because his like supporters are kind of afraid of the nypd like they ah that's interesting yeah exactly so one person on like this like you know maga website patriots.win this is how they were categorized like no I ain't gonna be in New York nope yeah maybe I was there in DC I'm not gonna be there in New York they said quote quote NYPD won't fall as easily as Capitol Police did there needs to be multiple events to scatter and distract them be careful though NYPD are brutal and even more so when protecting one of their own they have militarized units that are

trained to round up and kill i mean that's all police departments if we're being fair like what i'm not seeing the difference but i but it's weird again that like deference that's paid where they're like yo i mean i know it's back to blue but these motherfuckers will beat us black and blue so you know i don't know like we don't need to fucking go quite there with it so i don't it is is interesting to see that they're even like they're brutal guys. They're like, don't fuck around and find out with that. often is they're against things until they have to deal with them. And then they sort of see, you know, the other side of things, you know, they're against gay marriage until their son's gay. And then, oh yeah, now I get it. It was like, why does it always have to happen to you? And so you have the criminal justice system, you know,

that like Democrats have been trying, they've been saying that like, you know, these, these police, you know, they're, they're, they have too much militarized sort of equipment. They're, they're, there's too much brutality happening. And in addition to that, you know, they have too much militarized sort of equipment. There's too much brutality happening. And in addition to that, you know, then you have like the January 6th people and they're complaining. These people are in jail and they haven't gotten a trial yet. And they're in these bad conditions. It's like, buddy, this is what we've been talking about for prisons for decades. That people have been in jail for years without getting their

trial you can't you can't donate blood after you've been in prison because prison life is so bad you might have been contaminated as a human being just for being in there and they never they're like oh no criminals should be punished and then when they should rot in jail yeah except for the except for the q q q anon shaman guy he's just he's vegan food miles he got out he's out food he already got out now i just mean when he was in though i know but he's already he got out look yeah he got the star from mario 2 somehow we're letting you out early we love something about you so i can't quite pull my finger but when i look at your face there's something about you that I just can't quite keep you in here like I do the others.

I love that morning when Shaman was like, he says to his wife, should I wear the horn hat? Because if he doesn't wear the horn hat, we never hear about this guy. He probably maybe doesn't get arrested. He doesn't get as much because he was the mascot of the whole thing. And if he

didn't wear that horn hat, then he probably wouldn't have had as much sort of retribution, I guess. Yeah, maybe he was like, oh, man, he's like the histrionics got me. I knew it. My ego is always getting in the way. My therapist has been saying that. So another thing that's funny, though, too, according to like this former FBI agent who was like talking about in this article for The New York Times about like what the preparations are around this courthouse for Trump's arraignment basically said, like, New York is just kind of, quote, not as fertile a protest ground for conservative activists. And they're like, well, it's part and parcel because like New Yorkers to like they're out in the street, like there's a lot of people

out. So, you know, you may you may literally walk by somebody who has an antithetical viewpoint to you and that might bring some smoke to you uh but also in part because there are too many tolls to get there and also when you get there nowhere to park okay okay these people went to canada for a truck rally we think a few toll roads are gonna stop that like what but i mean try and park in new york it's you like you might find a spot even if you're like oh i can go in this handicapped space watch there's a fucking cop parked there because they're like yeah we don't fucking we park wherever the fuck we want good luck with that i think all that to say is i you when you don't have some like you know like right wing dark money groups actually funding the buses

and the flights to get people there it looks a a little bit different. And I feel like, yeah, in that sense, even the media isn't quite on the same page to say, oh, this is this is where like, we're gonna have to figure it out right now. Everyone's just in that state of paralysis where they're like, Dad says that we have to be angry at the New York court. And then they're like, Oh, okay. Do you think that the police having everybody like basically on duty is just a way for them to justify their like overtime budget overtime i know what's that fuck what's that bill gonna look like for tuesday you know what i mean it's gonna be huge we through the roof they're like it's justified what good we have done

it costs 25 million you know what i mean what are are you going to do? It was worth it. What are you going to do? But, you know, it is what it is. And then, like, when the real shit goes down eventually, they're like, oh, we didn't realize. Well, the last time nobody showed up, so we figured we could show up with about a third of the force. But I guess not. Yeah, it's a very, very easy time.

I mean, this is sort of the, I think, yeah, part of the dilution of the crowd is they're not quite sure what they're behind at this point. It's stop the steal. That's an easy chant. But stop making a federal case out of a state issue of a hush money payment. Like they don't even quite sure what they're rallying against. No.

And it won't be till he's sentenced until they do anything anyway. Like, I really feel like a lot of them are like, I don't know. Or like me, I'm like a court system. OK okay i know he's getting a ring they're gonna take his fingerprints that's fine and a lot of them think he's not in danger they're like no he's the art of the deal guy like he'll get out of this he always gets out of it like the court's not going to do anything it's a sham trial i think that once like sentencing and conviction comes down like that's when we'll see more action from his like base. It is funny.

This is a home game for him. You know, this is, you know, he's in Manhattan. He's, this is, he owns,

he literally owns Manhattan and this should be like, yeah, this should be like a total, like he should feel comfortable. And instead it's, he's feeling attacked. I also think it's funny. This idea of that

the all these people had all this like information of like the capitol building and all these maps and all this like intel of the corridors and the underground hallways but they don't have any idea how to use the f train they don't know how to like park in Long Island and get over to Manhattan. Yeah, there's like three different ways you can get to New York, especially if you're like, if they got to D.C., they can get to New York relatively easy. OK, you have those fancy buses now where you pay 100 bucks and they drive you straight there. Like you got options. I just I don't buy that. It's like, oh, there's nowhere to park.

Exactly. Now, if they were very smart, they would go. They would park, oh, there's nowhere to park. Exactly. Now, if they were very smart, they would go. They would park in Atlantic City, spend the day in Atlantic City and then take one of the five dollar buses from Atlantic City, you know, back to, you know, in the southern Manhattan tip. And that would be that would be great. That'd be a fun day. Make a whole weekend. Are we giving them too many options? I'm hoping that they don't leave Atlantic City.

Don't listen to the show i'm so sorry listen i can map out your protests just you know you want plenty of water plenty of food there you go there you go bring the kids and make a day of it maybe see a museum afterwards like you could really do a whole like full new York day. Yes. You know, raid some cars at night. You know, make a day of it. I think that's exactly it. Wear them out so that by the time the actual protest happens, they don't have any energy. They do that thing. It's like, let's take a nap real quick. And they do that thing where

they're in the bed like, I'm in the bed. I'm not going to go to the protest now. I'm already in the bed. My shoes are off. I think like what's the sort of Nick you're pointing to, like how do you connect to all of these angry protesters in the way january 6th did we're like stop this deal like you're saying it makes sense because every maga person took an l when they elect with the election they all were like oh joe byron's fucked it's maga all day and then when they're like what what the fuck? It isn't.

They can connect to that sense of disappointment in a really visceral way. And then again, their cognitive dissonance can kick in and be like, no, it can't be that we're simply outnumbered with this divisive rhetoric and ideology. No, it was the machines. They surely stole the votes. And that, like, they were able to capitalize on this like to your point they're like ah it's more so to be like you can't put trump in jail for breaking like a little law because a lot of people were kind of rolling their eyes to be like oh my god this is like on a little campaign finance thing is like one of the like replies i hear a lot and i'm like it's you're only going to get a very specific kind of like right wing person.

That'll be, I think, completely come online and like I will go into physical space over this specific issue. But again, I'm always surprised at how people forget things. And, you know, Trump's ability to be like the reason I'm going to jail is because they want to put all the good christian white people in jail and if maybe that works uh we'll see i mean they're already kind of on this paranoia tick anyway kick anyway yeah you know he he frames it you know when he was in waco he's he's he's pitching himself as he's trying out some new material that it's a little bit older stuff but he's kind of got some new from the first album yeah yeah yeah but you know he's saying that he's he's attacking you people through me you know he's saying that he's he's attacking you people through me you know he's been attack on me as an attack on you and and you know so it's like

who cares about this campaign finance thing but i think i just you reminded me what i forgot what i was gonna say earlier which was you know i think we were talking about the gasp from fox news it's speak it's not the it's not the campaign finance. It's that they spent four years thinking the absolute worst thing you could do was to say, let's put Hillary in jail. That was like the worst insult, worst thing they could throw out there. And so to them, that's a very that's the that's a very bad thing to do to somebody else and so now that they see that it's actually happening to them that's their gasp that their threat to that they always did is now happening to them and they can't believe it and that could be the closest thing that could be

what they connect to yeah right of like your whiteness can no longer protect you this is the consequences of my own actions they're gonna do you like we do them like you know because at the at its foundation that is like the fear that drives so much of this kind of shit because it's there's an awareness about it but then you put just enough distance between you know what's actually happening in the world in your reality to be able to be like well that surely can't happen to us. But I mean, I was surprised it happened. I,

I, I thought that it was going to, I don't know. I don't know what I thought. I just, cause I, again, I knew that they broke,

I knew he broke the law, but I also, we've seen him break the law 3000 times. And we're like, exactly. But he got elected and he broke all the law. Like he, he got the highest position in the land being the same person he is today.

And so then, yeah, the doubts start creeping in of like, oh, well, maybe there won't ever be a semblance of justice. It's like if you're fucking in baseball, you know, the season just started and your batting average is 1.00, meaning you will hit the ball every time you're at fucking bat. That is his batting average to evade accountability. So it becomes an afterthought. You're like, oh, yeah, at bat, Donald Trump. Like, yeah, whatever. This guy's not going to fucking strike out. Right.

You know, and then that's just sort of like the shock. But again, will we go that further step and actually see like that there, you know, there is some kind of accountability for, you know, his hand and everything we've seen ever. I'm just going to gesture around. I'm not going to bring up anything specific at this point. Will he go down for doing everything everywhere all at once? Exactly. All right. Let's take a quick break.

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This might be the time now. Just throttle off, you know, Trump and get on to DeSantis because he knows how to do this stuff well and he's smarter. And he is all those things. The one thing, though, that he just does not have, despite his like, you know, quote unquote, keen legal eye to be as cruel as possible, is that he has no fucking charisma and there's nothing interesting about him except that he wears cowboy boots and like the weirdest times. And I'm thinking he likes to get a couple inches off them heels. And that's why he does it. But that's like he really lacks any kind of magnetism outside of his ability to be really cruel through his legislation in the state of Florida. And ever since then, ever since that like midterm moment, it's been a slow slide back down the charts. You know, it came out with a strong single but the album people just

didn't aren't buying and he's had moment after moment where trump would send some you know shade his way like trying to smear him and he would just back down or fucking hide from the media so he didn't have to talk about taking an l so publicly and so when you see that you're like oh he has no appetite to actually you know do battle battle with Trump in any way that you'd need to eventually if you're really trying to go for this nomination in the Republican side. But I think we're really beginning to see the limits of this man. Like, you know, if you were a Pokemon card and you flipped him over and you look at the stats, he would have negative 120 charisma points. His his weakness would be standing up for himself and his and his special attack would be eats pudding with three fingers if you heard the there's an anecdote about how he eats pudding with

his bare hands yeah anyway that's not me just making up that's that's me taking from the rip from the headlines folks that i really enjoy eating with my hands, but pudding? What? What? No. No. You, like, tear meat with your bare hands or, like, get bread dipping stuff. Like, there's something very tactile about eating with your hands, but not pudding, sir. Gross. You know, I think DeSantis' real problem is the fact that he can't straddle the line appropriately to reach both Trump and connect to his past.

Right. So he went to Yale, you know, whether he earned it or did anything good while he was there is up in the air, but he went to Yale, which means you're an elitist. You're getting rid of all of these books, but you kind of have all of this past history with,

but I've read all of them and love them. It's just, I don't think he can do like you you have to go full dumb slash like hostile towards academia yeah yeah you have to be so in your corner like the the reason trump got to be so successful because he was like i will literally not hear any argument that isn't my own thought. I'm not going to come to the table or debate you. There's no backing down. So either you have to be Trump, essentially, and meet him with all of that energy, or you're totally screwed. And because you're pandering to an already very specific alienated audience, there's nowhere to go from there. specific alienated audience there's nowhere to go from there like sensible republicans wherever they are if they still exist are not looking at desantis as an option right that's not far enough

away from trump for them and trump is still out here working so they're not his followers are not looking to replace him they don't know what hole desantis is trying to fill with this craziness other than you know failing to try to like take down disney and making sure kids can't read i guess and eating pudding with his three fingers that is a disgusting image you know what it's from so it's like this apparently happened four years ago it was on a private plane from tallahassee to dc in 2019 on a private plane where they provide you with silverware i'm sure sir it's all as it goes is he enjoyed a chocolate pudding dessert by eating it with three of his fingers according to two sources familiar with the incident again i don't know if it's true but i love if this is fake i love this kind of shit like be like yo this guy eats pudding with three fingers

like in front of people who he knows are writing about him. There's a lot of questions to be asked here because it's not like privately with your buddies where you're like, listen, I know it's gross, but this is how I like it. But maybe that's his like, maybe that's his tack to populism like Trump did. He's like, yeah, I mean, who doesn't eat, you know, pudding with their three fingers? You know, I'm a regular American. People are like, yeah, fuck spoons, man. Yeah. And then he found something it resonates with the toddler demographic 100 i also love just the idea that that that what's

what is happening on private planes where he him and amy klobuchar she's eating salad with a comb he's eating uh pudding with three fingers they're both looking at de blasio going eating pizza with a fork going what's this maniac doing over here that guy's a real weirdo yeah yeah you know i mean and you're right though it's like an impossible situation so you know trump comes along and he's the new hit movie and all the other studios try to make the same movie again right now and but they don't understand is that you can't you can't be Trump to Trump. That's like a contradiction of the whole thing. You you can't like because like kiss the ring of Trump, sort of like support him until he just fades away. And then when he doesn't want to run anymore, get his blessing and then run. And that's one way to be successful, because if you blast him, if you do this, like, you know, this wavy thing, then you're either you're losing his base which you need to like win you know or you're

just not being him and they don't have they like you're you're not being the trump that we want you to be the other option you can be and i don't know why i i kind of wish nicki haley didn't go down the route nicki haley could be this person where she's like i'm not going to play this de santa's trump game you know and i'm just going to play this DeSantis Trump game, you know, and I'm just going to be this like old school Republican where I just am not going and hate and everything. And it feels like even she's like taking a page from this Trump stuff. If any Republican could come out. Well, go ahead. No, to your point, I think I'm just finishing your thought is they all this is what has happened.

They all are in fear of the influence that he has and they have to just sort of like model themselves after david from in the atlantic sort of puts it this way he's like he's like why are you gonna fucking like buy the tribute band album when you could just buy the original album right you know what i mean like why are you fucking with the tribute band because they're not gonna do it as well as him and that's kind of like this weird position that you're in. Right. Is like the thing is, I think the only way you can differentiate is to truly differentiate. And like to your point is disagree with him out loud or say shit like, yeah, this dude is a mess and his law breaking is not a good look. But every person that says that ends up getting the fucking buzzsaw and they're like they run away from it very quickly. And the few that stood up to it, they're like right i'm not running for re-election so it's like almost like do you have the metal to actually attempt to do that because that would be the

only way you could do it but i don't know if there's enough in like the national conversation on the right that they're that everyone is feeling like yeah man that's bad we do need to move on from him because people are still talking about jan January 6th in some corners and things like that. Yeah. If you have if you were sort of like a more moderate Republican, OK, and you wanted to you're trying to get that like whatever the 8 percent of people that are that decide every election or whatever, you know, you could base. reelection or whatever, you know, you could basically you're not going to you're not going to lose QAnon because QAnon's those MAGA people, their hate for Joe Biden outweighs, you know, their love for Trump or whatever. So if like if it's between you and anti-Trump or Joe Biden, they're still going to vote for the anti-Trump Republican because they hate Joe Biden so much.

And I think there's a lot of people in the middle that are undecided that are tired of all of this, like, you know, dissent is where the woke goes to die is Florida and Trump liberals. They're ruining this. They're tired of all this hatred. It's over. You know, it's like they've seen all the Marvel movies and they're kind of tired of superhero shit right now. They want to they want something a little bit different they loved it for so long and now they

want something a little bit different and and and you're right no one's no one's gonna do it because they well yeah that's what's so funny though too like when you see all the ads of like republican especially like men like republican men running for office there's like this through line of like, hey, I'm Buck Fuckville and I'm running for congressman. And guess what? I made love to this pile of bullets before the director said action because I'm about your Second Amendment rights. And you know what?

I was always told one thing to never back down from a fight. And that's what I swear to do. I will never back down from a fight unless it's with donald trump the second he calls my name out and which is so funny that for all this like posturing of like i'll never back that's all they do and i know but again i think it's all in service because like the people that it's attracting aren't necessarily thinkers they're all mimics and the mimicry is getting to a certain point and yeah it's hard to know like you know who ends up on top but i just do want to play this one clip because it is kind of satisfying this is from like ron desantis is like i might be running for president tour where he's also like

hawking a book but he goes to iowa very you know a very strategic place to visit when you're thinking about running for president and fucking this event was so backwards like the second he comes on the stage the stage crew took the like struck the podium from the stage and then desantis gets all confused because he's like my podium my podium's gone and then you hear the governor being like he needs his just listen to how like how smooth this is and we'll just take in a bit of schadenfreude for how you know uh lackluster his tour is actually going there they go the podium he was about to speak at the lectern thank you all right well they took that okay did you take my podium away from me oh jesus

they took the podium well it's great Oh, Jesus. They took the podium. Well, it's great to be with you. Greetings from the free state of Florida. We want the podium back. You know, I love Family Guy, and this is one of my favorite episodes of Family Guy. I listen to Lois. Where'd the podium go? I don't know where it went.

Hey, how's everybody doing here? All right. Right there, folks. Can we get the podium back? Peter, Peter, we need the podium back. Peter, wait! This reminds me of a time I became king at Disneyland.

So, yeah, apparently what's funny, too, is he was working with an events company that does a lot of the top draw conservative events. They backed out of their contract with DeSantis' campaign because they're like, dude, apparently their belief is his the top draw conservative events they they they backed out of their contract with desantis's campaign because they're like dude his they like apparently the their belief is his like his campaign's a mess and they don't want people they don't want people to start associating his

fucked up events with their company like like with that podium thing and they're like you know what probably better off we don't like we normally work with like the most vile racist xenophobes transphobes homophobes all the phobes you can imagine. It's just a bridge too far. Just unprofessional about it. So we will see where he ends up. You know, and you're right, too, that nobody is seeing DeSantis talk for a length of time. They get these little sound bites.

And when you if you're going to see DeSantis, if he goes in a debate with Trump, Trump will destroy him because Trump is a performer. He's the Don Rickles of the Republican Party, and he can just take them all down. And he has a couple of talking points that he has that he works into stuff, but he's not good on the fly. And he sounds like kind of Kermit the Frog a little bit. And yeah, just as soon as people hear hear him talk, it's it's it's going to be bad. It kind of reminds me. The other thing is, like, I don't know if we're going to get into the Marjorie Taylor Greene thing at all, but I don't know if we have time. But yeah, but go on.

OK, but here's here's what they like about DeSantis, because all you need to do to be a Republican candidate is like one sound bite of you telling somebody to shut up you know like you turning around to a press going hey how about you shut up and then people like i like this guy and so they they've seen some stances said that they'd like that he'll say shut up i think he told a kid to put a mask on one time they loved how we talked to that little kid no you can say take it off he's like take it off you don't need it yeah yes to a teenager or whatever the kid was uh a literal teenager a child yeah take it off and they just like they like a guy who's like rude and sort of goes against everything they sort of preach to a very unchristian way to sort of speak to people but they like that they like a guy who's like not afraid to tell somebody to uh shut up and so and that's what it we won't have time to get the marjorie taylor green thing on

60 minutes but like you know that that is why that that is sort of the problem with the Marjorie Taylor Green 60 Minutes episode is that, you know, they whatever. There's just they let her talk and that's fine. You should let her talk. But also, like, you know, people like her because she is the type of person who gets on and tells people to shut up. Right. And and then they go, I like that. But you have to show that if you don't show the whole breadth of what she does, you're misrepresenting why people are criticizing her. And she's like the perfect example of like what has been going on systemically, I guess, for in Congress for forever, which is people come in like DeSantis and Marjorie Taylor Greene and go, Congress is full of bums.

We got to get rid of the bums. Right. And then they become the bums. And then who are you though? I'm a Facebook bum, but I just got to Capitol Hill. I'm one of the bums from Facebook, but we're moving on up, folks. You're just a different bum. Yeah. I mean, it's a merry-go-round. And yeah, it's just

Ron DeSantis uh i hope that you can find uh you know the exit door as quickly as possible because i'm feeling out i mean we'll see what again we don't we just don't know what is going to happen he may have some new material or or we don't but oh to your point nick i was gonna say like he's not gonna be able to go toe to toe with donald trump because don Donald Trump is like just a bully. You know what I mean? He'll fucking he'll say whatever the fuck he wants to you. Ron DeSantis isn't like that. And if Trump was like, look at you, everybody, you should see your shoes he's wearing right now. How many inches do those add, Ron? About three inches. So what? So what? Without them? So with them, you're five, six.

So with them, he's probably about 5'3", folks. Your boy right here. Look at these. I'm wearing flip-flops. These are flat as can be. I'm 6'3". Bring the tape measure out. And then Rhonda Sands would be like, I just don't think that that's germane to this conversation. He's like, you lost, bro.

You said germane, okay? It ain't going to fucking work. Unless you can come back with like. Oh, yeah. I was just actually reading the Stormy Daniels thing. And, you know i heard your favorite character in the super mario world is toadstool if you get what i mean all right anyway and then like and then desantis gets the gamer vote but anyway we shall see it's just not we just don't know what will happen but nick vaderot thank you so much for joining us on the daily zeitgeist man where can people find you follow

you support you and all that? Oh, what did I just say? I was supposed to have a call of action. That's what I was reading about on social media. You have to have a singular call of action. You can't muddle it with all this different stuff. Go watch my special. It's called For Amusement Only.

It's for free. It's on YouTube. Subscribe while you're there. Uh-oh, I've muddled it. I've asked for two calls of action. You know what? Just what this, I,

it's a, I did an album years ago and then I have the video I've been, I found, I've been sitting on this video, found it in an old coat pocket. I decided to put it on the internet. So yeah, go ahead and check that out.

And thank you all for, this was, this it's, it's always cathartic to sort of like, yeah, get on here and yell a little bit. Yeah got to you got to you got to how we maintain that equilibrium uh joelle thank you so much for joining me where can people find you follow you and what's one show that you should tell people to watch y'all can follow me all over the internet at joelle monique that's j-o-e-l-E-M-O-N-I-Q-U-E.

I'm torn. Just what are you watching right now? I don't need you to put your reputation on the line, but what are you watching right now? Okay. So I'll give you two. One per my reputation is we've been re-watching the first season of the Daredevil Netflix show, which you can find on Disney Plus right now. Yeah, that was good. That's fine.

Well, it still hits, y'all. It's still real good. It sort of gives you hope about the direction the MCU could maybe swing back to once they figure out what kind of catastrophe they're in right now. So that'll be good. It gives you hope that maybe the MCU will straighten itself out, and I look forward to that, hopefully. The other show I tell everyone to watch is Julia. It's on HBO Max.

It is the Julia Child's How She Made a TV Show movie. I've seen Julie Julia that chronicles How She Made the Cookbook. This is How She Made the TV Show. It stars so many women working in television in the 60s. And if you're like me and you want to work in TV, oh my god, it's so good.

But also they teach you how to make perfect scrambled eggs and also the cast is really good. And also there are black people in it and there's nothing about the civil rights. It's kind of the perfect show. There's not like a woman with like a, with like a black power Afro pig is like, Julia,

I got to ask you for something. There's a black woman who works at the TV. They did do a slight rewrite. The white female producer of the show, they made a black woman just to spice it up a little bit, which I really appreciated and then there is a black woman in the penultimate finale episode who is a documentarian and you think she's gonna come in and be all badass and like tell this white boy how to make documentaries about civil rights and she's like you know you live in boston like

don't go to the south you've got plenty of stories right here and then she learns he works for julia child and she's like i love julia she melts and she's so soft and sweet three black women work on this show two of them are playwrights it's an astounding sensational show i don't think enough people are talking about i love julia and i think more people should watch it i love scrambled eggs so i'm i would make you the best scrambled eggs because is it is it what is it like a like a like more of a thick thick bottomed pot and butter milk and then you slow cook the eggs any kind of pan it doesn't matter if you're cooking with julia you need a shit ton of butter just prepare yourself it doesn't matter

what she's making lots of butter and yes super hot pan the trick is you want to pour in three quarters of your egg yolk mixture your blend into the pan let that cook almost all the way about 10 seconds before you pull it off dump the rest of your egg mixture in there whip that up and then pull it off the heat will continue to cook it but it until it's just perfect so it's like very custardy and light and amazing wow yeah i did the i always did the gordon ramsey version which is like on lower heat and you keep removing it as you like keep stirring to get it like super fluffy now i look i'm i want to be first in all the ways of the egg i like it just get it hot do it fast get it over and add a little bit at the end i like that uh is there any tweet or work

of social media that either of you are liking uh in case you want to shout it out yeah i got you here we go this one's from shack shut up you dumb ass and leave angela reese alone thank you shack that's all that needs to be said about that. And then from Deadline, Paddington's back. Frequel Paddington in Peru will be filming in July. Thank you, Deadline. This is the news I needed. We're getting another Paddington movie. All of our hearts

are so much fuller. And then from Rainey Ovega, I think that's how you say their name. I hate the summer for a lot of reasons, but as a parent of two toddlers, you try putting your kid to sleep at 830 p.m. And it's brighter than powder and the movie powder outside. And I can't even blame them. Do you remember going to bed at 830 when you were a child?

It was awful. Yeah. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Yeah. Angel Reese.

I mean, look, it's what happened when you taunted the white woman with her own taunt. You know what I mean? You invited the ire of all those people. I like that she pointed that ring, though, too. look it's what happened when you taunted the white woman with her own taunt you know what i mean you invited the ire of all those people i like she pointed that ring though too yeah she did the john cena you can't see me because that's what uh what's her face caitlin clark was doing on iowa i loved going into that game how the lsu players are like we saw how she was defending the south carolina team and she was not giving them respect. And you know what? We're going to take that personally and bring that into the game. And I was like, you're when that when they when they were evoking St.

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Thank you, Joel, where you can find all the articles we talked about, as well as the song we write out on. Today, I want to go out on this track by this Japanese band called bialy stocks and it's basically of like a this film director uh sora hokimoto and then this other guy go kikuchi who's like a pianist and the music's like just very like i don't know it's hard for me to put like a genre to it but it's just really upbeat and it's fun to listen to and i love hearing

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