The Daily Zeitgeist - No Trends For The Wicked 2/17: John Fetterman, Take-Out, Walker County, Balloons, Fox News

Episode Date: February 17, 2023

In this edition of No Trends For The Wicked, Jack and super producer Justin discuss John Fetterman getting treated for depression, the best foods to order take-out, the torturous murder of Anthony Mitchell in Walker County Jail at the hands of police, EVEN MORE FUCKING BALLOON NEWS, and revelations from the Dominion/Fox News lawsuit!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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How are you doing? I'm doing pretty good. I'm glad to be back. I've been enjoying being part of the Zeitgang. I've been getting positive messages. I still have not joined the discord someone how again what's with the invite thing what's it was this exclusive club happening i have not been a part of discord before hit them up where do they hit you up at jaycon the smith uh j-c-o-n-t-h-e-s-m-I-T-H on Instagram and only Instagram. Only Instagram, folks.

Someone might have. Hit them up with an invite. Someone might have. I know I could do it. You could. That sounds like a lot of me figuring things out. Yeah, I wasn't going to pressure you with that. Someone will figure it out eventually.

It'll happen. Hit them up. Yeah. I'm not. Yeah. I'm not. I'm not going to do it. Come on. It'll happen. Hit them up. Yeah. I'm not. Yeah. I'm not. I'm not going to do it.

And it is a long weekend. We're heading into President's Day. We are going to take that opportunity to rest, to trends, even though we are wicked. We are going to trends. So we're back on Tuesday. So don't hit any of our producers up being like, the episode's not up. The episode, which we recorded today. So if anything happens over the long weekend, we apologize.

The episode will not cover that. It's kind of a silly one. We'll drop on Tuesday and then we'll be back to our regularly scheduled programming. Also, don't be mad at me or Jack if I edited the show wrong and left in the part

where he said the date wrong that that might have he he gracefully did i might have done that um you know we're all human over here we're trying we're all human and i read whatever is in the prompter people there was no point exclamation point on the prompter that's why i just shouted that part uh a lot of typos in there. Anyways, Justin, let's tell the people what is trending, shall we? Yes. John Fetterman is trending. He's checked himself in for treatment for depression.

And this is new and groundbreaking because he was honest about that. He was just like, yeah, I'm suffering from depression. I'm going to check myself in for treatment. And I think, you know, there are a lot of people saying the right things and commending him for his honesty and pointing out that he is by no means the first politician to do this, just the first politician at this level to be open about it. But the conservative takes are pretty ugly. Yeah, it truly stopped me in my tracks when I got the news alert about that. I was like, his staff came out and said he's being hospitalized for depression. I was like,

my second thought was, has this ever happened before? That's really, truly groundbreaking. Yeah. So he continues to be pretty groundbreaking in transparency and honesty while dealing with very difficult things. So shout out to him. Hopefully he gets better soon. His family gets through this and the mainstream and conservative media don't completely turn this into the cancer that i'm sure

they are already fully uh churning away uh turning it into the takeout had a list of the best foods to order takeout uh which i don't know i have my opinions on this. I think, I think this changed with the advent in my household of the air fryer, getting an air fryer really changed French fries from being a no-go unless I'm eating them in the car after, um, they've been shoveled into, into my, uh, through my driver's side window. Absolutely. I mean, yeah, me too. I have been blessed with an air fryer. It has definitely changed my life, but I'm also lucky enough to be in a centrally located area.

I don't want to give the name of the chain away, but there is a chain that's like maybe 300 feet 300 feet away from my front door and it's really good so when i order from there the fries come hot and that's the only place i order fries from but this is the first time i've been lucky enough to be that close to a restaurant that i actually like uh but unless you have that you got to get yourself an air fryer it's it really changes everything so they're putting burgers and sandwiches at number one, which I don't, like, I'm not sure, I guess, what they mean by takeout, right? This is Nation's Restaurant News reporting that they did a survey.

Like, yeah, a drive-through where you're eating it very soon after, but takeout where you're taking it home and eating it maybe 15 minutes after you get home after you like get the kids down at the table get a table set like the burger sandwich um have you ever tried a hamburger sandwich uh before a hamburger sandwich yeah have you seen have you seen these things they're all the rage with the kids i mean i've definitely been poor enough to like not want to get the expensive like burger buns and have been like you know i'm just gonna use some wonder bread and you know yeah i don't know does that count as a sandwich i like a wonder bread uh burger when it just gets real sloppy stuck to the top of the roof

of your mouth yeah it's like it's already doing the thing that happens when it gets stuck to the roof of your mouth, even before you put it in your mouth because it's like the burger so wet and greasy. It's so wet. See, that's the problem with takeout, though, depending on where you get it from, especially in sandwich form. If you're getting like, again, I think we covered this on the pod the other day, but, you know, sandwiches having, you know, sometimes you want that crisp vegetable. Like I'm a person who i don't like any it's controversial take i don't like cooked or roasted vegetables like necessary i like that period point blank yeah for the most part i i i yeah period point blank for the most part i i really like the fresh if i'm going to eat a vegetable that kind of like you know i want

there to be a little bit of like crispness and freshness and I want it to be cold. I like the separation of textures and temperatures in a sandwich. I don't want it to be moist and heated. I don't even like it, you know, when it comes out the oven. Like I know many people find that delicious. If I'm going to get carrots or whatever, they got to be like raw. I love it raw. I'm sorry. It's delicious. Oh,'m going to get carrots or whatever, they got to be like raw. I love, I love it raw.

I'm sorry. It's delicious. Baby. You like it raw. Maybe I like it raw. So you might be more of a fan of the number two, which they have as deli subs. That makes sense to me. That makes more sense to me than the burger sandwiches,

burgers and sandwiches. They're not required to be hot. The temperature is not as important. And burgers also, I think the thing we were discussing recently, they are not saved by the air fryer. No, not really, but I can make do. Sometimes I will chef it. I'll put in maybe a little more effort than you might even want to with reheating fast food. Yeah, taking it apart, you dissect. Yes. Yes.

I will take it apart and I will break out like, you know, a little pan. I'll put a little olive oil in there. Um, I'll heat up the burger, uh, separately from the bun.

Yeah. There's a whole process there and it can kind of revive it. I got to say it doesn't, it will never bring it back, you know, to the original, uh, form,

but it's, it gets the job done. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. This list is just a little bit broad for me, and it doesn't seem like they're saying burgers and sandwiches are the best. It seems like there's a bunch of commentary on these things, but these are the categories that they've ranked.

Donuts they've got in there. Krispy Kreme, I i think is specifically mentioned and it is a food that will like there are crispy cream donuts in existence right now that will still be delicious after i'm dead you know like that is true that's a hundred but have you ever been to like someplace in the South where they, where the Krispy Kreme donuts come right off the conveyor belt and, and they're so warm and hot. Like I, yeah, they're super good.

They're still going to be good later, but, um, I don't know if they travel as well as if you're like in the restaurant and getting it right off the conveyor belt, I guess, you know, it's,

it's good, but for me, it kind of, you know, it, it's going to have a steep drop off and then it right off the conveyor belt. You know, it's good, but for me, it kind of, you know, it's going to have a steep drop off. And then it maintains, you know, somewhat deliciousness. But that peak, I got to be inside the store for that, I think. If I'm trying to get what I'm really looking for,

I think I got to be in the store for that. And then they have pizza, which I don't know if you know about this, but you can have pizza delivered. You can get pizza takeout. You don't have to eat in a pizza parlor. So that's cool. Maybe give that a try sometime, maybe over the long weekend. The jury's been decided on this for several decades. This feels like an industry article that they were just like, I don't know, man, slow news day.

Yeah. Someone had to get their quota and this was it. Pizza's great for the air fryer uh fries are great for the air fryer um yeah anyways uh let's take a quick break we'll come back and talk about some other stuff i've been thinking about you i want you back in my life it's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do.

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that they put this human being suffering a mental health crisis in a walk-in freezer and he froze to death. Yeah. I mean, all over, of course, what do you think? A welfare check. Like, I mean, he fired a gun while a welfare check was being performed. And does that mean a death sentence in this country? Yes. I mean, it's one of those things where it'd be almost, at this point, merciful to give someone a death sentence. They tortured this man for hours, for so long. And it's appalling because they, at their core, they being, you know, the authorities, whatever that means, they know how wrong these acts are

because, again, one of their own tried to report it. She was not, there was a security officer who was there who had heard rumors of this happening and she searched through the security tapes and found what they had done to this man. Her name was Karen Kelly. She was fired for trying to say

hey, for reporting it, for saying hey, this is a human being. They tried to cover this up and so they know how wrong this is and they still let it happen time and time again which is why it's so hard to see people being like hey i that shit is disgusting and sickening that's why i want to be a part of this to change this from the inside and then you have people like a karen kelly who are hey, this is not right. I'm going to report this.

And they're like, no, we're not changing anything. This is exactly what it was designed to be. And it breaks your heart. It is really heartbreaking. These are crimes against humanity that are just happening. And this is what the system is designed to do. And this is what the system is designed to do. And the investigation will treat it as, you know, this is a few bad apples, but it seems like it keeps happening. This is again, this is not the same story that we were talking about last week.

The Harris County jail in Houston, where many people were dying over the course of like 14 months. This is a new one in Alabama. And it just the the system is is broken and white supremacist and deadly and yeah i i don't know it's very it's very uh it's infuriating yeah because i mean it's not even just the people who you would think are, again, the authoritarians in this, you know, the jailers and the correction officers and the wardens who kind of participate in the violence and then let it happen. But it's also, unfortunately, the people not giving him medical treatment. him medical treatment like there's a whole system set up to be like hey all right clearly this person is going through some distress even though we don't have the conditions here to get them the best medical treat like the world-class medical treatment we're going to do what we can and do our best they didn't even do what they could for this man and that is the part where you kind of lose all hope in,

in the system in terms of like reform, like there's no reforming that I think we've gone as far as we can in terms of where we go next. It's just more, I guess, death. And then people will be like, well, maybe we need to reform that. And then it's like, well, that's a little too far for me. And they just, it's a never ending cycle. And it goes back to the point that Joe Biden made where he said that we don't need to defund the police.

We need to fund them. Think about all the things we rely on police for. We rely on them to be psychiatrists. We were, and like, so he he he was making the point that that is the system that we have and we need to double down on it instead of making the point that this is a fucking mess that started when reagan closed all the you know mental health care facilities and now the police do all of these jobs that they aren't meant to do and are, in fact, the worst fucking people to possibly put in in charge of that. focus on mental health. It's never a conversation on mental health. It's never a conversation about care or compassion because then you look weak on crime and then you lose your constituents who want you to be some kind of, I don't know, medieval ruler or something. But there are over

a million people in the prison system who have mental health issues yeah we are already understaffed because we have the most populous prison system in the world right how are you going to tell me that just throwing more beatings at people is going to help solve this issue it's like it's never going to work we should as you made before the you know you made this case before saying that, like, you know, we have the most funded police force in the security force, whatever, in the history of the globe, history of the world. No one has ever been this funded to enact the laws of their society on the public. And we have every single year conservatives talking about how crime

is out of control right so you are essentially telling me that you have been useless your entire career right and yet i'm supposed to trust you with my safety what the fuck is that like who buys that shit and and unfortunately it's like half of America. It's unbelievable to me. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it creates a atmosphere where things that feed into their white supremacist worldview keep happening, right? Because that's what it's designed to do.

And it creates a cycle that is sort of self-fulfilling and yeah, self-reinforcing. Yeah. All right. Uh, just a couple like kind of update things. Uh, the,

the balloon controversy appears that we seem like we're getting a little clarity on this. Um, a hobbyist group says that they, one of their balloons that I think was like costs under a hundred dollars or under a couple hundred dollars, uh, was in the area of the Yukon when the U S military shot down a,

something that they didn't know what it was and still haven't really identified. So like the front page of drudge is still like, we don't know what it is. There's like this, this arms race happening between... In fact, the front page of the New York Times, the top stories as we're recording this,

US and China vie in hazy zone where balloons, UFOs, and missiles fly. And it's all about American officials are worried China is far along in developing military technology that operates in the unregulated high altitude zone of near space. And meanwhile, it just seems like it's what we said it was last week that it was basically they widened after the you know

chinese spy balloon they widened the aperture to be like well anything we see up there is now a threat and they started seeing more stuff that has been there all along yeah it's incredible like you see the system kind of play out like from the inception of a story like this and and you see it's like this is the new threat target and then it's a new story every single day and it kind of i think reiterates the point of you know you can make anything public enemy number one from, you know, you have the powers that be. And then you have some sort of like nationalistic, like jangoistic kind of implications in there. And then you tied it together with like a fascination of the unknown and the media plays along. Everyone plays along. And it's this i'm worried this is going to get

conflated with you know america has a history of other rising and you know for lack of a better like like alienating uh asian populations and the whole thing of like you know the chinese government and aliens and then conflating the two and like unknown foreigners and all this stuff like coming together it's it hasn't been fully like put out there yet but again we have also i guess over here on the liberal side expressed like no fear over a fucking balloon like like and and it feels like you can turn any foreign object into a source of terror if you're a part of the conservative media cycle and now liberals kind of feed into that as well on the other side of just like oh hey this gets us ratings let's talk about this quote unquote ufo the new york times is like making this and and of course the new york times

is a instrument of capitalism is what we've kind of come to realize and this creates a need to spend more on weapons and defense the story if you're reading it the way that they are as like all of these things were a threat as opposed to man do we have some egg on our face it turns out that was a 25 balloon sent up there by a hobbyist yeah and i don't think that'll be talked about even when it is like when you find out hey you know this was a hobby new york times isn't going to run a story about that i don't give a fuck they already put the narrative out there but yeah i don't know man this is it's it's a bunch of nothing and then there's also just some so because uh the company that made the voting machines that fox news was like you know dominion uh might have been in cahoots with some foreign power and trying to overthrow democracy fox news allowed that to be

said on their news channel uh and so they got sued and so now some papers and you know uh text messages are coming out in the public and they reveal some things like the tucker carlson called trump a demonic force and a destroyer on the day of the capital riot to his own producers like see that so this is like what the people actually believe they were also like making fun of the people they were having on their show who were claiming like election fraud or like who were, you know, perpetrating the big lie. They were like,

these people are idiots right behind the scenes. But then when they got in front of the cameras, they were like, yeah, we, we agree with all of this shit. This gives me hope that like, at least like once a day,

Tucker Carlson and his ilk are like, fuck, we fucked up fucked up like they're just thinking like yo he chose wrong like god damn we're so stupid and then like all right guys you know they just put on that face but but they're panicking on the inside real bad yeah i love this that he's gonna like age at like 5x the normal rate over the next coming decades because he is experiencing so much inner turmoil uh i would i would love that version of events i don't think that that is i know i i was just saying i was just saying this is a villain he's gonna stay around for a long time he's gonna have

great skin for some reason i know it's it's just the villains really do. Yeah, yeah. I think because they all end up being billionaires. So they just have human teenager blood bags that they're getting transfusions from. Only $600 an ounce, though. I mean, I'm working my way up there. That's right. All right. Justin, pleasure having you as always. Where can people find you follow you you can find me at jcon the smith on instagram

at j-c-o-n-t-h-e-s-m-i-t-h uh thank you so much guys thanks for having me jack awesome we are back on tuesday with the last episode of the show until then be kind to each other be kind to yourselves get the vaccine don't do nothing about white supremacy, and we will talk to you all on Tuesday. Bye. Bye. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit,

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