The Daily Zeitgeist - Nobody Wants Pandemic Movies, What’s The Point Of Police? 01.30.23

Episode Date: January 31, 2023

In episode 1412, Jack and Miles are joined by co-founder of Kaleidoscope and host of Skyline Drive, Mangesh Hattikudur, to discuss... Memphis PD Gave White Cop Slap On The Wrist... No Murder Charge, Cancel Culture Strikes Again: Louis CK Sells Out Madison Square Garden, We’re About To Get A Wave Of Pandemic-Themed Comedies and more! Memphis PD Gave White Cop Slap On The Wrist... No Murder Charge Memphis PD Disciplines White Cop Involved in Tyre Nichols’ Beating Police Diversity Won't Stop Police Brutality Cancel Culture Strikes Again: Louis CK Sells Out Madison Square Garden "Stop Cancel Culture..." Joke Tweet Louis C.K. Sexual Harassment Accuser Calls His Grammy Win ‘Such Bullsh*t’ We’re About To Get A Wave Of Pandemic-Themed Comedies 'Who Invited Charlie?' Trailer: Adam Pally Is an Unwanted Pandemic Guest The Bubble: Judd Apatow COVID Comedy Needs to Get Out More ‘Connecting’ Pulled From NBC Schedule, Final Episodes to Air Online LISTEN: Forbidden Fruit by MonodroneSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's Tuesday, January 31st, 2023, which of course means last day of January. Last day of January. Also, probably not my kid's birthday because the child is not on earth yet. So that's why I'm back. It's touch and go, folks. But National 31st. I said National January 31st. National 31st? It's National 31st. Plan for a vacation day. National Backwards Day. Inspire your heart with art day.

And National Hot Chocolate Day. I felt like Hot Chocolate Day. We decided to just... Whatever. I hate the fact that there are things like that. Like, inspire your heart with art that is a good sentiment that nobody should be ashamed of like having or partaking in but like i can't not see it in that font that like wine mom font you know yeah yeah like curls mt yeah that's like been stitched into a pillow or whatever the imagery

is just fantastic it's a it's a it's a small small child with their tie-dye hands, like they were doing tie-dye finger paint. So if that doesn't inspire your heart, Jack, I don't know what will. How did they do that? I don't know. That's the whole thing, dude. Inspire your heart. See, that art just inspired your heart. That art inspired my heart.

Now go do some arty. To be a competitive parent, I'm like, we need to do that art project. We're like, what you got, kids? My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Hey, it's Miles Gray, a.k.a. Big Daddy Grain. Almost, almost I will be there. But yeah. I was just saying.

Big Daddy Grain. I can't leave y'all. Part of me is just if I'm like, if I have the voice in my body, I get on the mic. That and also I just wanted to kick it with our guest today. Yeah. Yeah. This is a, that makes a lot of sense. This is long overdue.

Thrilled to be joined in our third seat. One of my favorite humans. One of my favorite humans. One of my favorite creatives. He also co-founded a humor magazine, Mental Floss. Oh, heard of that. Ran the New York studio for iHeart while hosting a great podcast, Part-Time Genius. Remember that? Before moving on to start Kaleidoscope, a very exciting podcast studio, and hosts the show Starline Drive.

Please welcome to the show, the brilliant, the talented, Mangashatikadon! Mangashatikadon! What's up? What's going on? What's up? I feel like that was too nice an introduction. No, Mangashatikadon, you know we fuck with you heavy, man. Big fans over here big fans her majesty hold

the baby for another day yeah you could be here hold on hold on let me look at it if this document is right put it on pause is on now full disclosure her majesty had the pregnancy salad which is this thing in la that supposedly like induces labor but like it's just like a tmz like la myth basically hey but it's funny when you go they make you sign a book and shit they're like oh you're having this okay you got to fill out the book then and it's just wild i'm like they like have a god complex about it they're like put your name in the book of life right like leave your inscription upon the wall for the other travelers that are curious. But it's such a scam to me, like, because you're dealing with something.

I did it too, and it also didn't work. It's just, it's, but it's brilliant, right? Because for people who don't know, there's like this thing, it's like the pregnancy salad. And what it's supposed to do, people come like when they're around the time they're expecting, they have it and supposedly would induce labor. But like, you're already dealing with people that are like very close to having a child anyway so you could ascribe it to fucking anything you know what I mean like you'd be like it's that LA water you know what I mean hey take

two sips of LA water every day but is there anything special about the salad like is it spicy or is there like no I I fucking downed like a couple. I was like, hey, bring some extra dressing real quick. Because I wanted to know.

Because all I know it's a vinaigrette. Yeah, that was the rumor. It's the dressing, right? Yeah. There's something in the dressing. It's a straight up vinaigrette. It's just a vinaigrette. I'm like, what the fuck is this?

That's why I'm like, this is genius. This is genius. They don't know. But you put a placebo effect in people's heads. I love that. And they're just making bank off. There were so many other pregnant people there was wild yeah i misunderstood what the pregnancy salad was and i ate just bushels of that shit trying to get a junior situation yeah

i thought it would have been good for the show's visibility yeah and did not work out disappointed a lot of people that day including me i was like jack that's not how it works man i don't know maybe it's like a big type situation where you interact with this magical mundane thing and the impossible happens yeah these are exciting terrifying times so glad to spend them with you miles yeah and i guess you're also daddy uh what what's am i ever gonna not be nervous in anticipation of this child coming up or were you cool calm and collected because everything i'm i was telling jack earlier i'm like i'm just a wreck right now when the fuck is it when's it coming i was i was so anxious but i was also trying to like finish all these like like we had a cover story and the the author dropped

out or the writer dropped out so I ended up writing it so I was like trying to get Lizzie to hold off having this kid until I was finished but yeah I mean I was anxious the whole time I was anxious the whole first few months it's crazy it's like you have an alien in your house

I'm cool with that I've always wanted an alien in my house I went on this astrology Yeah, I'm cool with that. I've always wanted an alien in my house. I went on this astrology for the reporting for the show. I went to India and visited all these crazy astrologers and things. And one of these guys told me that he was talking about black magic and all this black magic that had been put on him and how he found this amulet and he burned it and reversed the curse on these people and then he was like and also tamil's the most important language in india it's the only language aliens understand and so that's a big swing i was like i was not expecting any of this but particularly that part just like tamil hubris coming at me yeah the one true language yeah the show seems amazing and it sounds like the the research has been pretty a journey i guess to say the least yeah it's been wild i mean like it's it's one of those

things that like i did it kind of as a lark because I knew that astrology was ridiculous, but also like a part of my life. Like, my parents were only married because their charts matched. And like, and my mom's chart had something that said, like, she couldn't have a mother-in-law or her mother-in-law would die. And like, my dad had lost his mom as a baby. And so, like, they got paired up as a result of that. And they were like, maybe you like each other and and and so like they went on dates and wrote letters and all this stuff and then decided they did like each other but but like so like i'm here because of astrology whether or not i believe in it you know just like this but like we met the first uh

astrologer who was on cnn like in the early days of cnn they were just trying to figure out like how to get ratings so they put an astrologer on like, wow, like, uh, uh, there's that page in the newspaper and we're a news channel. So let's give it a shot. Should we also have a crossword puzzle? But she was like, like, um, she was like, all these anchors would like deride me on like on air and then ask me to do their charts right after and like and that's the fucking thing i feel like that's the thing my my brain

doesn't want to believe in it but then like all these things happen in my life and i'm like man like so i can't admit like we're gonna cut this shit i'm not just you're cutting this shit but i like all like i think i told you this when you were telling me that you were gonna do this shit i'm not justin you're cutting this shit but i like all like i think i told you this when you were telling me that you were gonna do this show that like my three best friends and my wife are all born within a day of one another oh yeah yeah like all the first people that i hired at cracked were all like born in the same week and like all the shit that you know i'm not i'm obviously not checking for but yeah it's checking for me whether you like it or not jack it's coming for you yeah well i mean the the crazy serious thing that happened to me was like i went in as a lark and

and my friend aj jacobs who's this writer he was like you should just like follow everything the astrologer says to the word so like hire someone and when they when the astrologer is like that person isn't right for your show then you gotta let him go and it's like good tape or whatever and and he during our reading it was like all a really nice reading and and except he said like your dad is gonna fall ill and might not make it through this year and And then 20 minutes after our session, I was hanging out with my cousin at the shop, and I got this text from my dad that was like, I have metastatic cancer. We didn't realize this. It spread through my body.

I'm so sorry. Yeah, I mean, it was awful. But it's also one of those things that there are things that are just so eerie that they're hard to discount. And so you don't want to believe in something. And at the same time, like once someone said something, suddenly it gains this new truth or something, you know? Yeah. Wow.

Pregnancy salad, you know, chart readers. Somebody who was going to tell us what the sex of our second child was going to be based on the rolls of fat in our first child's thighs. And she like had an amulet. Like we didn't like go to her or like hire her. We didn't pay like six grand. She's our baby nurse for our first child. And she had like put an amulet over him and went back and forth and was like, oh, it's a girl for certain.

She was talking us through it and she was like, except sometimes it's the opposite. I was like, yo, there's only two options here. It could be, though. It could be the opposite of what I said, too. There's this story I heard about this guy in the Middle East who is a sonographer and he looks at baby's palms in utero and then

tells rich moms the exact moment that they should have a c-section so that their baby will have the like perfect birth going forward and so like i i talked to obg ones about this in india and they're like yeah people come in and they're like i need my kid delivered in this exact 90 second window. And like, and they have to do that. And otherwise they lose business or whatever. Right. And so like, it's this craziness around babies. But I was asking him, I was like, what about this guy who reads palms in utero?

He's like, first of all, like I have the best sonography equipment in the world. And like, you can't read a baby's palm in it. And secondly, most babies hold their palms and fists. have the best sonography equipment in the world and like you can't read a baby's palm and secondly most babies hold their palms and fists and so there's no determining it I love that yeah I'm a baby palm reader they're like how you gonna see their palms I do

oh you know to ask that question I've seen them don't you think that uh that salad place should be just like selling its dressing though like they do like you can buy it i again like it's just i think with everything like whether it's astrology or pregnancy salads there's always a fun to think that there just might be something that we can't quite fathom that has like a power that we can tap into so i get that but just me looking at like just the grim nature of our like capitalist economy i'm like holy shit dude you can start a fucking racket with a bunch

of things it's like yo dude you have this boba right oh my god you'll go give birth within at least four weeks of that but you gotta have it when you're 36 weeks pregnant and it's like sure the math there works out but all good you but we all do what we got to. Deferred result. You do like your eat this salad and your child in their 30s will have the greatest run of luck ever. Right, right, right. I feel like, yeah, that might work. Like just very, very specific things.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like a like a thousand dollar Ivy League salad. Right. Exactly. Yeah. There. Yeah. Like a, like a thousand dollar Ivy league salad. Right. Exactly. There it is. That's oh shit.

Okay. Exactly. That is the kind of dumb shit that would like happen in like New York or LA. Yeah. Yeah. 18 years. You had an 18 year window, but also,

you know, the way that Ivy league schools work is actually, you know, if the family has enough money to spend on a thousand dollar salad they'll probably like jack don't read into the data too much it's causation that's right causation all right man i guess we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about we're gonna talk about the memphis police department who apparently gave

a white cop a slap on the wrist and no murder charge because you know there was a white officer who was present and tasing and yeah just all around still dealing with the fallout from that so we're going to talk about the tyree nichols case we're going to talk about the Tyree Nichols case. We're going to talk about cancel culture striking again. Who this time? Louis C.K., man. Like, he had a sold-out show at Madison Square Garden. I didn't even hear about it.

He really did. Wow. Yeah, he had a sold-out show at Madison Square Garden. Good for him. Wow, yeah, cancel culture. Yeah. We're going to talk about, there's a bunch of pandemic themed movies comedies coming our way and i i'm just curious i particularly yeah to get you guys thoughts on like what it feels like we don't want to watch i i at least will speak personally

don't want to watch pandemic themed content at all and I remember during the pandemic I was very hungry for pandemic themed content like you know people grappling with all of this and went back to be like well surely they were like great

you know novels written during the 1918 pandemic and like the big one was written like 30 years later and that's still the best thing that i've written camus the plague but best thing i've read is camus the plague wait hold on that you you wrote camus the plague yeah i wrote it few people realized it and then they were like this guy should edit cracked yes exactly you should start a humor magazine but the yeah i don't know i so i'm just curious like what we think it is just like people are ready to move on is there something about you know we're still there's

a world war one movie that's nominated for an Academy Award this year. So like war, obviously, photographs better than plague. But still, it's like something that makes more of a cultural imprint and pandemics just don't. It's like they're written in disappearing ink or something. Right. So I want to talk about that other stuff. But first, man, guess we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? So recently, Miles and I have been working on this show about a Robin Hood character, which which I'm super psyched about. And Miles is incredible. But coming out in April.

Yeah, I think May. April is May. Look, no, we're working on just so you know, this isn't a joke. This is going to be dope. Yeah, I'm actually really excited this is the first like narrative kind of podcast i've been i've hosted a voice so yeah but go on go on man so we're sending a reporter out next week to various parts of greece to to chase down some of these myths uh of where this guy is hanging out this fugitive and one of the places that we're sending him is mount athos have you

heard of mount athos yeah it's this peninsula in greece and it is super strange and i only just read about so like i'm reading about it in sort of like real time but but it is this place that's supposed to be like super sacred to christianity and and so like the russian orthodox church is there the greek orthodox church is there, the Greek Orthodox Church is there. But the craziest part about it is no women can go on and go into Mount Athos. But like, so even the animals there are all male. They don't have any female animals there. Reverse Jurassic Park.

Yeah. What is that? Reverse Jurassic Park. Fucking incel Jurassic Park. Yo. And, and it's like, because the, it's sort of this like tax haven slash like paradise slash whatever. It's a tax haven too. I remember reading about this in the, like, I think Michael Lewis wrote like an article about the financial collapse in Greece's role in it.

And there was a bunch of it set in Mount Athos. That's definitely right. And so like Putin apparently has hidden a lot of funnel, a lot of money through the Russian Orthodox Church that's there. It's these two like rival Orthodox Church on this one island where it's only men. And it's just like the this fascinating, strange place. And apparently in like the 1950s there was a greek reporter a woman who sort of like breached the island for three days before she was caught like but but uh but they're like people who are constantly trying to get on the island or get get onto this peninsula and and can't make it on wow okay mount what does that do to the ecosystem well they can't control everything right and

how do they police the birds flying in and out i i just have like world's best chicken sexers out there just like checking on every bird well they don't they apparently only have eggs on easter like like they don't right yeah it's so hard to get to ship those in i i don't know the specifics of it but i but i i know that like there's there's like a pastoral land and they're only bulls there and there's like uh the only birds that chirp are supposedly male male birds what's the logic of it is it like some adam and eve stuff like where they're like you know you know what happens when the females are around? It is partially, yeah,

no temptation, but also they think it's the only land that... Sir, sir, sir, hold on, hold on. What the fuck is going on here? What? Supposedly it's the only woman who's been on the land is the Virgin Mary. Oh, who's been on the land is the virgin mary like is part of it and so yeah there's like a there's a whole story behind it i guess

the way to keep it sacred is just a bunch of lonely men cranking off like like men's weekend it feels it feels right yeah there's an article we're probably not gonna have time to get to but it's all about like the crisis of men in the modern world and it's it it's not written from like the men's rights movement but it's like just men are doing worse in school like by like drastically like boys are doing worse in school and it's just like this sort of global thing across societies that men are struggling and this feels like i i don't have the explanation but the need to create this this sort of thing where it's like just us me and my boys can be ourselves like without women around probably has probably has something to do

with uh the crisis yeah you're dealing with like 2 000 year old cultural norms and you're wondering why people are struggling in the year 2023 so fragile but what you could do is so like we could burp without having to say excuse me me. It's just so lame. So tight, dude. Burp. Thank you. Mount Athos is for the fellas. What can I say?

Athos for the boys. My ultimate man cave, Mount Athos. That was great. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back and talk more. Get to know you better. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.

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I think Bono is overrated. Whoa. And I don't mean, I mean, like, I like Bono himself as a musician, I guess. And like, but. Dude, what? Wait, what? Sorry. Bro, dude, what?

You were just talking about how chill Mount Athos is, dude. And now you're going to hit me with Bono's overrated, bro? I'll tell you why I with Bono's overrated, Brent? I'll tell you why I think Bono's overrated. Because every time someone pitches you a podcast and they're, like, searching for relevance, they pitch that they're going to get Bono on the podcast. And the idea that, like, you know, that this is going to change whether or not a podcast works is, like, ludicrous to me. But it's always like, no, no, no. they said they were going to get Bono on we should like sign him to a three show deal

you know like I feel like Bono was the bane of my existence like at iHeart and even now I feel like people throw it out like it like you're still seeing Bono's face on a deck for a show I've never heard Bono on a podcast I mean like I'm sure he's been on a podcast,

but, like, he's not going to come on your real estate podcast to talk about, like, you know, fancy New York apartments. Like, that's not going to happen. And what's going on, yeah, with, like, how he's diversifying his portfolio as he gets older kind of shit. Like, yeah, that's not happening. But it is funny, yeah, to your point, just some inside

industry baseball like when we we've looked at pitches for shows at iheart like there is there is something he is like an ever-present like potential host that a lot of people are like yeah and this thing about tupac's unsolved murder hosted by bono you're like no no you're not what are you fucking talking about just because he did like a show with one of the producers 15 years ago like no like and no one wants to see that shit or hear it but that's like that's exactly how tangential like bono is to so many of these things and and he still shows up everywhere it's like climate change like hiv aids i think there was another pitch where it was about something like with the 80s or something and then also having bono voiced that we're like yeah he

anything that touches africa like it's like oh we we got the person for this you know yeah remember project red cut horsey what is something that's just so wild that that like i feel like i i can't get past that i'm sorry i can't move past like the cool the coolest possible a lot of people haven't yeah yeah i think it reveals that like cool factor or the age of the person putting the deck together you know what i mean yeah dude this thing about crypto dude you know he's sick to host this fucking bono right what no yeah it's like it's hamilton but older like oh hamilton but more irrelevant like i feel like it was irrelevant when Hamilton began.

Like, you know how Hamilton just like aged like bananas. And now it's just like, I thought it was fucking so cool when it first came out. Now I'm like, I can't listen to a single song without like cringing at this shit. And like, I actually never really fucked with you too,

but like, I, yeah. I never fucked with you either. I never fucked with you either. Yeah. I never fucked with you too, man. fucked with you too Oh wait you went to band Oh okay yeah But yeah it's to that point though

I feel like we also see Lin-Manuel Miranda As a host pitched as a host too Yeah And Lin-Manuel Someone like Lin-Manuel Miranda So I guess we always have I guess is he our new Bono Is this all to say is Lin-Manuel Miranda Taking So I guess we always have, I guess, is he our new Bono?

Is this all to say, is Lin-Manuel Miranda taking the mantle for Bono? I don't know. I actually just got a text from one of, I guess, the agencies have ears in our recording studio because they just told me I can kiss any future of having a Hamilton cast member on TDZ goodbye. Well So, well, we already booked a V digs anyway, so good luck. Uh, what is something man, guess that you think is underrated? So I,

I feel weird saying this after the arts with hearts. Hey, that's how you push to the beginning. So I think clubs and making your own clubs are, are underrated because yeah,y my kid and i like i was traveling a lot like not finding more like time for stuff and and then we decided to have like a tuesday night art club where we like make mocktails and then do art and uh and and ruby makes like a mix of music for it and now like people people want to come to Tuesday night art club and it's like,

it's like something so small and simple and there's like nothing that goes on, but it's just like, I don't know. It's, it's awesome. So I feel like when you put a label on something, it just makes it like more fun. And so,

yeah, I'm for, so what's like, give me, give me an idea like that. You know, it's the hottest club in town. People are banging on the door saying, Hey, I brought females with me.

The ratios are right. Let me in, man. I want to be part of the club. But like, what do you guys do? Like, what's the kind of, like, what kind of, like, what was the last art project you made? So we took, uh, we took a bunch of like cardboard and make these giant faces out of them, like and glue them together and stuff but like we're gonna do like a sneaker project where we just like call it like paint sneakers together

we're gonna like okay stuff like that yeah like like white slip-on canvas shoes or whatever yeah like vans and just get a bunch of like posca markers and and like yeah see now i'm already like yeah how do i hey uh how do i get in how do I, hey, how do I get in? Yeah. I can bring my own shoes in. But is it, is it like through a laundromat? Like, do you have to walk through a laundromat to like find the hottest new club? Fourth dryer on the left.

Yeah. But it's like, but honestly, like, like now so many more of my friends are getting like sober and they don't have things to do like in the you know in the evenings and like and i have a kid and i'm not gonna like like i still have to own being a dad and so like it's it's like an awesome way to to sort of force my friends to hang out with me and like and hang out with my kids so yeah that's amazing i love it i'm gonna steal that idea it's wonderful yeah and i'm not gonna cite you just boys guess what daddy just thought of on his own right now that's right but i mean i but like you know anything like my my i have some friends who do this like weekend in america and they just pick like you know a different strange place they haven't been and once uh like you know well once every three months four months they they take a field trip to this place and they have t-shirts uh like you know well once every three months four months they they

take a field trip to this place and they have t-shirts and like suddenly a t-shirt makes something feel like more real or something yeah that's a club for sure that's club official right there oh yeah oh that's great the the weekend in america have they like discovered any under known about gems uh i forget they told me about somewhere they went on yeah yeah yeah you'll have to get them on not telling you you're about to answer the question no i mean they were telling about some like like in montana there's some old like like the oldest chinese restaurant in america i think, Wyoming or Montana. And, and like, so, so they went out there and like, you know, did cowboy stuff, but

then also like ate old Chinese food. Not old Chinese food, Chinese food from an old restaurant. Yeah. Wow. The Pekin Noodle Parlor built in 1909, the oldest continuously operating Chinese restaurant in the United States in Butte, Montana. Wow. We just blew up Butte, Montana.

Yeah. Sorry. Sorry about that. Sorry. Off the strength of that. You're about to be overrun with hipsters. Hey, Dave, set your Airbnb rates high now, you know. That's right.

Just make that money while you can. Get ahead of the surge. All right. Let's talk about the Memphis police. So on Monday, yesterday, they confirmed that a sixth officer had been placed on administrative leave in connection with the death of Tyree Nichols, Preston Hemphill, the one white cop who was involved and who is not facing murder charges. He hasn't been fired he is the previously unidentified white officer who pushed Nichols to the ground and then hit him with a taser and I believe could be heard yelling on one of the videos I hope they stomped his ass at one point

and he's just so he's just on timeout yeah he's just on timeout so they're you know any any speculation that oh it's i think you spent you said miles like it's weird how they were so quick to with the black officers involved yeah listen to all what we've been saying all along how they should deal with this shit by like when every officer involved is black and right but then but not like this one's like but unless there's a white guy in which case his white supremacy will also protect that person in the commission of a murder yeah yeah but uh it's it's this i wish we just like could reach the point in like mainstream discourse where we can just stop. Like we just call policing a failed experiment.

And that's just being that's being very charitable, even calling it an experiment, given the origins of policing. But like, yeah, you know, like there's countless deaths. There's countless videos of people abusing their power and being and brutalizing innocent people. people abusing their power and being and brutalizing innocent people and our reflex is to immediately try to problem solve like as if this whole system of policing is like a man you like a malfunctioning sono speaker that just needs to be unplugged real quick and then plug back in and then it'll start working like it needs to oh wait maybe we need to update the software that's the problem when really nah this shit is broken and it's not worth continuing to try and think that we can solve our problems through this very narrow lens. And so we can't expect any other outcome aside from the one we're seeing because the whole concept is just predicated on the idea that our society's issues stem from dangerous hoodlums or someone having a mental health crisis rather than the fact that we are being preyed upon by the wealthy and the powerful. And the proof of that predation is in how our social fabric is deteriorating

before our eyes and the desperation that we see in our communities. That's, that's what we need. That's the fucking boogeyman. We got to fucking go after not what's this motherfucker doing in this part of town, beat them up, shoot them. Why is this person yelling and got a stick, shoot them. Like we're not fucking, we're not, we're not dealing with the actual issues and What's this motherfucker doing in this part of town? Beat him up. Shoot him. Why is this person yelling and got a stick? Shoot him. Like we're not fucking, we're not, we're not dealing with the actual issues. And again, we're just, we'd rather do this thing where we're holding on to this broken fucking system and not just, not just looking back and like, yo, there's not a single thing you can show me that, that indicates to me that this works. Right. There's not a single thing you can show me that that indicates to me that this works.

Right. That's all. The only thing it does is continue to be a venue for increased spending. That's the only thing I've seen go up in a positive way, quote unquote. And that's for people that are invested in the carceral state. Yeah. A lot of money gets spent. And also, you know, there's an argument that like this is working the way it was intended to work. Yeah.

You know, like that this is from the early days of American police being founded as a like slave patrol up to today. Like that it feels like there's a pretty straight line that would suggest that this is what they had in mind. Yeah. People are getting rich off of it and it feels like they just try and weather this shit. Just get it passed so it can keep doing what we want

it to do. In New York, the library budget got cut so that police budgets could go up. These are places that are lending ties to people so that they can go on, you know, for job interviews and, like, doing all this training and all this incredible community work. And, like, you know, for more policing, like, it just feels ludicrous. Yeah. 83% of U.S. counties increased funding for police departments in 2022. of U.S. counties increased funding for police departments in 2022.

Like, at this time when we're supposedly, like, supposed to be out on police, the whole, like, 83%. Yeah. And, like, you hear people like Bill Maher over the weekend. It's like, well, I mean, look, the cops were black that murdered him. So it might be that this issue is bigger. It's not just about race or, like, I don't think race has anything to do, like, dismissing that. It's really just about race or like i don't think race has anything to do like dismissing that it's it's it's really just about white supremacy the the police are they uphold the system of

white supremacy so it doesn't matter what you look like when you enter that system you are you are there to uphold it so it's not a mystery that it's like well how how could they do that because you hear people also say we just need more cops that live in the communities they patrol. Or what if we just have more black cops? But the research doesn't show that that does fucking anything. It has very minimal impact, if any, because again, like we're saying, at the end of the day, you're sending these people into cities as police,

and the game is predetermined, which means that these people think that they are peacekeepers dealing with some insurgent population that they have to defend themselves from who also have like quotas to meet and like yeah i mean it's i mean all of it's backwards so what do they do what serve what what safety are they providing robin panacchi on wonkette put together like an exhaustive list of statistics that just point to that underline like what the fuck like two percent of violent crimes are actually solved by the police four percent of police time four percent is the time that police spend devoted to dealing with

violent crimes in any capacity which is the only argument that you hear every time you bring up defunding the police investing investing in alternatives to policing. People are always like, what are you going to do when someone shows up at your house with a sub-automatic Uzi? Okay. How about this? Okay, so let's say that happens and you got 72 feral hogs running wild on your property. You got to call 911. on your property you gotta call 9-1-1 well five percent of the time is the police actually are able to respond to a 9-1-1 call in time to prevent violence from happening or even catching the

person so like we're every like the success rates are fucking so low that you're like well if the whole point is like y'all stop this y'all stop that the numbers don't back it up so we need to be we like but again i'm we're talking about upending the status quo and like abolishing the policing but as it just logically it's not doing what even it's supposed to be doing so from that standpoint it's a fucking l and all it does is create a just a tremendous loss of life and i don't know like we have such a problem even defining what we need like it's that like is it policing you know we need more policing or do we need to ensure that our communities are safe and we need to figure out how to ensure that safety because it's not just we'll send the fucking patrols out to sweep bullshit up and brutalize people because like we need safety right we need safety from lack of services or lack of a social safety net or safety from like an economic system

that sorts people into disposable and non-disposable in the blink of an eye like those are the larger issues but we get really if they've done a fantastic job rhetorically of like acting like this is a thing like these are all like anomalous one-off problems right rather than a completely failed thing so most of us like feel like we're walking around and like looking a funhouse mirror where it's like that doesn't look good actually what i'm seeing right but i guess i'll keep going because the way we're talking about it is just to be like i don't know maybe we can fix that thing a little bit one of the things we talk about like this idea that local the local news is like reliant

on this if it bleeds it leads and the police as a source but there's just been so many like cartoonishly just blatant failures by the police just constant like i'm just that that's if if the media wanted to portray this situation as it was they would have no shortage of evidence of police failing on the job or committing violent crimes on the job but instead they really shy away from it like i was just every time something like this happens i'm just like i just add it to this mental list of it like the child who was being held hostage by her dad and the police got in a massive shootout and just shot her right like to death they thought when she was when she got away from her dad and was, like, running towards them, they were like, we didn't know if she was armed.

And so they shot her to death. The cop who drove cross-country kidnapped a child and murdered her whole family. Like, the Golden State Killer, we found out, was, like, I mean, this was a couple years back. He was a cop who was using his ability, like, to, you know, his access as a cop to commit, like, one of the most heinous, like, strings of murders back in the 70s. And they knew he was a cop because, like be so easy for the local news to stay. Stick with that. If it bleeds, it leads thing, if that's what they want to show. But they don't.

They're part of a broad system that wants to shy away from that reality. Yeah. Again, it's to keep these hegemonic systems in place right and there's no there's no appetite to do that and yeah to your point it's like you could every day there's something like yeah well guess how they fucked up again today right yeah you know you could do that you could do that constantly but instead they're like wow and this guy hit the tiktok dance like challenge like flawlessly with a bunch of school kids isn't that amazing okay well later on coming up in the hour we're going to talk about some dogs you can adopt who were shot by drug dealers according to the police they need a home

like right just every single thing is just fed through this lens like rhetorically that it's it's it's just always framed as well how do we fix this thing that's completely broken and useless right rather than being like this thing's broken and completely useless what the fuck are we going to do about this and extremely dangerous it's broken it's like those were you guys young enough that when or old enough i guess that like that there was a big health panic around old refrigerators just left in people's yards. No. Do you remember that?

I mean, I'm older, but I don't remember that. There was a handful of very special episodes about old refrigerators, because old refrigerators, I guess, used to lock from the outside when you would close them. Oh, so people would get like kids who get stuck inside. People would play hide and seek. There was a very special, I think, Punky Brewster where she got trapped inside and they found her almost too late, but revived her with CPR. But anyways, it's broken and it's killing people constantly all over the place. Like those old refrigerators.

That is a reference that everybody understands at the same time i'm sure punky brewster did a copaganda for sure yeah uh shit but yeah i mean again i it's it it's it's weird how like every day there's like you see the news when this happens or like oh oh, you know, like it's just it's just raising more questions about our policing system. But there's just really again, there's no real good faith effort to do anything about it, because like you said, 83 percent of U.S. counties increased their funding in 2022 off the heels of all this. Like, yeah, we got to really think about this it's all lip service because at the end of the day like for for us to live in a the type of world where we're looking out for who is actually causing harm is just it's it's actually a threat to the economic system so yeah like one

that's what we're very specific change that we could see them make include crimes committed by police in the crime rate so when you fund the police like yeah you know we start the scorpion unit yeah let's see what happens to fucking violence in the community when you include all the violence that's being perpetrated by them yeah what if you drop a scorpion into this precarious situation right sounds like a good idea but yeah nailed it guys yeah and just like even the way things are worded you know like scorpion like what the fuck you're like yeah they knew but again like they fucking help people it's a death it's a paramilitary death squad yeah exactly they knew exactly what they were doing. This is a group called Scorpion doing what you would expect a group called Scorpion to do. Yeah, not the kid gloves soft touch brigade.

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And we're back. And Louis C.K. was trending on Twitter, which is never, it's never a good thing. Rarely. It hasn't been a good thing in a while, but this time it was because I guess good for him. His recent Madison Square Garden concert sold out. Guy's killing it. Wow.

He can't even kill his own career. Yeah. Look at him. So TikToker Talia Lick lickstein went viral by she just like got up and was like can we stop canceling guys who are brilliant artists over here say like yeah women have stories of him them being creepy but then you know and yes their stories may match up but because of that we're gonna just make it so they can never work again. And as she says that, like behind her, the digital billboard changes to read tonight, Louis C.K. sold out. So extremely well done.

Yeah. But yeah, I don't know. Cancel culture is like you have to have a pretend boogie person that is like made for powerless people to feel like it's like effective. You know what I mean? Like powerful white guys. I'm like, oh, the cancel culture. It's like, come on. They're even like, come on, y'all.

They can't cancel me. But I'll be like, oh, the cancel culture. But at the end of the day, societally, we're not actually ready to hold people to account or have experienced the kind of sea change that would actually be like yeah you know what you're doing is foul it should actually exclude you from like from participating in x y and z or whatever but right it finds a way now where very quickly you know i think it's i don't know it just it has it has this way where like in the beginning you'll feel like oh thank god look some people are like not booking louis ck that's good i like what that's I don't know. It just, it has, it has this way where like in the beginning you'll feel like, Oh, thank God. Look, some people are like not booking Louis CK. That's good.

I like what that's indicating. And it gives people a moment to feel like something like maybe something is happening, but then it just comes right back. That's why I think cancel culture is much more effective as like this specter to raise for like, you know, the,

the powerful to like deploy against themselves. Cause it's not going to do anything. I was in a fairly soon after the BlueCK stuff came out, I was in a room with a newscaster because we're all in this attracting various podcasters

to the space or whatever. She was like, I don't even understand what he did that was so bad. It's like, how? I mean, like, one, just just being in that room to speak out or like, wouldn't consent, like, like basically like shut down their career and not get them like any clubs and stuff like, he, he canceled like several women's careers, like, you know, like, like tons of you and, and like, and I think like in that mix of, of problematic people and men in particular and whatever, like somehow because they had different gradations of what they did and their

awfulness, like people just kind of all forgot like a lot of the worst ones and only kept like the, I mean, even like, you know, a president who's, who's assaulting women and whatever,

right. Like the accountability for him wasn't particularly great, and it's not like he got canceled in a big way. And so, like, I mean, I just think that, like, in some ways, like, to me, it's, this is maybe a not fair thing to say, but, like, I feel like you end up being so numb from, like, all the accusations and stuff that people, like, stop investing in like how much how much it's worth, you know, like to not.

Well, I think the numbness comes from the lack of accountability that follows. Yeah. Because if if if you knew there was there was a cause and effect sort of sequence, then you'd be like, yeah, fine. I'm always outraged to hear that someone's like, you know, experiencing a lack of agency or having some kind of transgression they're experiencing at the hands of a sexual predator. That should that will always be upsetting. But to your point, it's sort of the same way we feel about mass shootings or police violence when it happens over and over and over and over again. And you're just like, am I the only I can't be the only person who this really bothers right you're being gaslit by your society into just being like yeah yeah no we

we saw that we know it we know that's bad that's bad that's going to end the world and we get it no no we get it it's bad we changed our ads so that we're now our logo is green yeah so like louis not on fx anymore right louis louis lost his show on fx and i think one one of his movies got buried by being like incredibly creepy like the movie that got buried was incredibly creepy yeah but also like so people are coming through and being like well yeah he's got fans what do you want them to do? But like a tour like that counts on like many institutions to come together. And also he has like subsequently made a movie that was released,

just won a fucking Grammy last year. So he's like not, he's not canceled. It's another thing like BP claiming that they're now an energy company and they're actually part of the solution at this point. You know, it's just a cosmetic change that's being made. And it is. I think you guys are right. Like, that is what is so maddening about it is because we're all like

kind of just sitting here watching it happen while people are like, no, no, no. Like we we do get it. We're doing something in response to this while not doing anything in response to it and just watching the problem happen over and over again and get worse. The other thing that's maddening is like so many of these people like should have been canceled long before. Right. Like the whispers in the rooms about like Louis C.K. or like, you know, when Gawker used up the blind items, like, you could identify, like, so many of these

people and like, you know, Cosby or whoever. Like, there's so many people who, like, the industry knows about and just protects because there's money. Yeah. So many people whose careers were cancelled by Harvey Weinstein or Louis C.K. Like, the number of people whose careers were canceled by them

outnumbers like their careers being canceled, you know, like you said. Hey, but, you know, like you said, it's an agreement of many different factors or many different bodies and organizations to make it happen. And again, it always indicates, it's like, well, the public outcries over it aren't enough, you know, because the end of the day it's profitable because they're seeing something gets sold. And that's the only thing that matters. Yeah. So fuck it.

Yeah. Like why switch? Wait, what about renewables? No, that's not profitable. You fuck wit. Yeah. Keep pumping the dinosaur farts. That's right.

All right. And then finally, I want to talk about just pandemic themed culture, pandemic content. So there was a movie that came out, I think a couple of weeks ago called Sick, written by Kevin Williamson, person who wrote Scream, set at a secluded cabin during the early days of the pandemic. I don't know like i didn't really hear that many people talking about it there's one coming up with adam pally which sounds like great like i love an adam pally comedy where he's playing an obnoxious asshole this one is called who invited charlie and it basically seems like it's what about bob set during the quarantine even the name the title is like okay hold on mirroring what about bob

pretty closely right who invited charlie right it's just yeah there's also life upside down a romantic comedy that was mostly filmed during lockdown with iphones and ipads that was like i i didn't know about that one at all is this the one that with bob odenkirk yeah and there was yeah yeah there was also a judd app oh no no so then there was a judd apatow comedy called the bubble oh yeah right completely unaware of i had no idea this was a thing yeah is it just is it like when a like a someone puts out an album so bad they're like just shut the fuck up about that one. We don't need to talk about that. I guess.

It came out on Netflix. It was a showbiz satire about how the pandemic affected a blockbuster movie with just tons of COVID gags that were already kind of stale. It also had a thing where I guess they were joking about how it seems like the people in charge of safety mandates are making it up on the fly. Oh, my God. Yeah, I was just totally unaware there was a Judd Apatow movie about how the CDC is making up all the COVID safety measures. That's further away. Apatow's drift to the right. Yeah.

I was just like, yeah, I don't know. But yeah, all these movies seem like they you know we talked during the pandemic like i said that like it didn't seem like there was a ton of stuff that came out of the 1918 pandemic and you know other than a novel that from camu that was ghostwritten by me obviously that came out like 30 years later and you know is is really great and was like kind of the best thing that i read at that time to like help me get my mind around what was happening but i it does feel like the stuff is being made it's just like it's not resonating which i just wonder if it's like some mixture of it not being a fun thing to watch

no as opposed to war it's stupid people in development who are opportunistic and not realizing what the real development cycle looks like from when you're like yeah yeah yeah green light that thing from judd apatow cut to two years later and i was like what the fuck is this right like it i get like a rapid response maybe like you're saying at the time i was kind of like curious about like what stuff would be out there that's reflective of like the situation i'm in but the more we think about it i'm like i'm like i'm only filled with discomfort uh looking back on the like like the early days and just where we're where we're at today i think i mean the other

trend i've noticed and i mean i i guess i wasn't even aware of like how much stuff was coming out about pandemic themed like stories but i've noticed like a lot of body horror in in like films like the menu uh has something and then like that uh banshees of inertia or whatever that that movie was and and it's like there's a lot of like self-mutilation or like mutilation that's been happening in films too. And like, I don't know, it's odd to me because like, I feel like all, after going through that period

and then seeing headlines, like, you know, we were talking about earlier, like all I want to like be in is in like spaces of like comedy or like, you know, things that of like comedy or like you know things that are joyous or like wondrous or whatever and and like and and yet like i feel like i keep i keep tuning into comedies and then seeing this which is which is a strange reaction i guess yeah yeah and i wonder if like the you know like when talking about world war one or something

that's easy to sort of wrap your head around like you're saying jack because it's like war but like i wonder if like if there is something that's even about this period that's written after the fact if if what the if the themes are even going to necessarily be about covid 19 itself or like that it's revealed just a deeper societal sickness in us. Like, and I mean that, like,

but I don't know if, but I don't know if we're like there with the commentary yet. Like many people are pointing out how fucked up the situation is for many people. But I don't know if that's like the main thing we're taking away from this still. It's like, yeah,

I didn't get it. And I got to like, we're not really, we haven't zoomed out on like what this, what, what arrow we're in right now. We went through something and like haven't really processed it. Don't wantlysmic event that we lived through that never really had its apocalypse. It never had its like on screen movie that really like broke through and everybody watched.

You know, there were some, but they weren't like blockbusters. They were not like things that were like culture defining. Yeah. Or like hero porn. were not like things that were like culture defining yeah or like hero porn but we did have the like torture porn break like movies happen at that time yeah like saw and stuff like so that that's like how we dealt with it was by watching people get mutilated and slow motion oh so in that sense like right the body horror as like metaphor for our own self inflicted yeah just yeah i wonder if that's all like kind of just different ways that our

trauma is coming through to the surface and like bubbling up see i knew i wanted we had this story on the dock for a little while and i was like no no all right Nothing to say about this. I want to see what Mangash has to say about this. And brings through the heat. Hey, what about that pregnancy salad, though? I think that has something to do with it, too. I don't know. That's what makes sense. What did you think about that, Jack?

I said that just now. You guys may love it. All right. Still got it. This guy still got it. Alright. Well, let's see. Hit us with your theories on

what's happening with if there is, maybe I missed some pandemic themed thing. I know the Hurt Locker was an Iraq War one. Has there been a hurt locker for the pandemic right but is it like but but nothing is quite having the apocalypse now like there's not a film that you could say like oh this is the apocalypse now yeah i guess contagion

was the one that but it happened 10 years before yeah maybe it was crash. Paul Haggis's crash just to come back to that. Well, I think, I think that one really sums up everything about the human condition. And I've always said that, like, that's the one that really brings it all together for me. Absolutely. Made me want to be a better man. Made me want to be ludicrous. me want to be a better man made me want to be ludicrous uh man gosh such a pleasure having you where can people find you follow you hear you all that good stuff well first of all i miss you guys i i really like it's really such a pleasure to be hanging out with both of you and so please come to new york and hang out with me um you can find me at tuesday night art club that's yeah i'm gonna show up one of these tuesday nights man unannounced t-nack my show is skyline drive and so like if if people uh check that out

i'd be thrilled and yeah i'm on i'm on uh twitter and instagram as m hatikader which is not easy to spell but it's i think think, the only one. Yeah, there you go. And is there a tweet or some other work of media that you've been enjoying? It's not a tweet or work of media exactly, but I saw photos of that palace cat in the, it's like this wild cat that's small and cute and super cuddly. And it's like called the original grumpy cat. And they found it in Mount Everest, which they didn't think it existed in before. And so, like, I've been obsessed with that recently.

That's amazing. And is it still up there? Or it's been brought into captivity? No, they're like, there are, I guess, these cats all over, like, this region, but, like, very, very few and far between. But they had never found them on Everest. Yeah. Miles, where can people find you? And what's the work of media you've been enjoying?

Yeah, day to day. Find me on at miles of gray where there's at symbols. Maybe I'll be daddy. Maybe it'll be another day or two. But,'ll i'll let y'all know when that happens uh where else i don't know i'm i'm my mind is fucking right why what's wrong between the police violence mass shootings rampant inequality you know fucking pregnancy salads i got i got i got a lot of my plate but anyway find also jack and i on our basketball podcast miles and jack got mad boosties we're talking about the nba which is fun stuff and then uh 420 day fiance we're talking about

90 day fiance um a tweet i like let's see oh this one's from you know blair baby at blair sake just tweeted i just like this just as where where she is in her life she said tonight is my first night of adult soccer it is going to be humbling for me to not be good at first as i am a lion and a titan in the sports arena but god make no mistakes but god makes no mistakes so yeah she's like i don't know she's i was dming her she's like yo I don't know. I was DMing her. She's like, yo, I don't know how this is going to go. I haven't played since I was 10. And I was like, it's okay.

Just because you were D1 volleyball doesn't mean you. I feel like she got a hat trick. My prediction for that is she dominated. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Perfect hat trick. Left foot finish, right foot finish, headed goal. There you go. Some tweets I've been enjoying.

Let's see here. This is just a good one. Somebody, R. Jones, Bofa Jones Jets tweeted, if no one has said this yet, I'm fairly certain this also makes whatever number the date is the same weekday every month. So since we're talking about dates and horoscopes, it's just a screen cap with, you know, like some footage or a photo. It's a, it's a meme. And it says me explaining that if we had 13 months instead of

12, every month would be exactly 28 days. The first would always be a Monday and the 28th would always be a Sunday. Every month would have exactly four weeks instead of 4.257. And we would properly align ourselves with the cycle of the moon that was a revelation for me i have to go back on what i said when i disagreed with ben bolin's take that calendars are are bad i'm gonna revise that to our calendar is bad yeah and we should make this change immediately uh sanjeev tweeted everyone should have a friend who has no idea what your job is and doesn't care. I think that's good advice. Holy shit.

I have lots of those friends. Yeah, they're called family. And that friend in return. Yeah. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. miles is there a song that you'd like to leave the people with if this is your last recording i a couple well i don't i don't know if it is it could be and this is the thing if i'm not on the

recording it doesn't mean i've things have gone into labor i'm just we're managing a lot uh yeah of course and it's weird that you're like well what is the last song this i didn't the the song is called forbidden fruit but it has nothing to do with me sending a message this is my last one it just happened to be and this is from the artist monodrone and it's like uh it feels like kind of like easy listening dj shadow if that makes sense you know like very sample based uh instrumental stuff but like it's not like spooky you don't feel like you're getting like followed like in a like, on a, like, a rainy night. So, check this out.

This is Forbidden Fruit by Monodrome. There you go. All right. Well, we'll link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it for us this morning. Back this afternoon to tell you what's trending, and we will talk to y'all then.

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