The Daily Zeitgeist - Noem More Noem! Daylight Savings Oppression! 03.06.26

Episode Date: March 6, 2026

In episode 2018, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and host of Abolish Everything, Chandler Dean, to discuss… Noem’s TERRIBLE Week, RFK Jr vs Dunkin, You Can Blame Big Oil and Big Gol...f For Daylight Saving Time and more! Tillis to Noem: "Those are bad decisions made in the heat of the moment, not unlike what happened in Minneapolis." Rep. Kamlager-Dove enters articles in the congressional record with headlines like, "Lewandowski taking out trash at Noem's DC home" and "ICE Barbie's mile high private chamber with alleged lover exposed" Noem Gets Grilled Over Government Contracts RFK Jr vs Dunkin RFK Jr. took aim at Dunkin'. Mass. residents threatened revolts Your favorite iced summer coffee could contain 46 teaspoons of sugar — the same as drinking 5 cans of Coke British Columbia Will Change Clocks on Sunday for the Last Time 7 Things to Know About Daylight Saving Time The dark side of daylight saving time B.C.'s premier is celebrating the move to permanent daylight time. Others aren't so sure Bill To Make Daylight Saving Time Permanent Stalls In Congress Again What Happened the Last Time the U.S. Tried to Make Daylight Saving Time Permanent? The Real Reason Why Daylight Saving Time Is a Thing The stakeholders of daylight saving time Golf industry tees up fight to keep daylight saving time The business of Daylight Saving Time, from golf to oil 9 Things You Probably Don't Know About Daylight Saving Time The Reasoning Behind Changing Daylight-Saving Is permanent daylight saving time a good idea? Lobbyists, lawmakers and sleep experts are split. What would ‘half-daylight saving time’ look like? LISTEN: Mesa Mesa by YuufSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:05 Can I ask you something? Please, by all means. Are you a violent sneezer? I definitely, I can definitely you the big, ha! Yeah, yeah, yeah. Into the chew. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:17 But the chew is quiet. The chew is an anti-climate. That's crazy. Yeah, it's like, yeah, like, ha-dew, like it's kind of the vibe. Like, I do, like you're saying the word, I do. I bid you. A dude.
Starting point is 00:00:29 Right. Well, yeah, I've tried to get people to leave in sort of a polite and French and normal way. But I don't know. on them. I also want to, I also want them to walk through a cloud of mucus. I would say I'm pretty good at, um, sort of like, like, like, preventing my sneezes, like when I, you know, like being able to like, just kind of hold them in, which, wait, you pinch your nose? I do, I do, I do the, that's fine. I know it is. And, and I, I feel like it's one of those things where everyone intuitively recognizes
Starting point is 00:00:55 that's bad for you, but I don't know if there's any proof. Right, right. It feels like it's a way to explode your own head. It does, right? But, you know, think we would know if that were happening. Well, you know if you leave your eyes open during a sneeze, your eyeballs pop out. Yeah, I mean, obviously. That's actually a scientific fact. So that happened to Dan Crenshaw. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:01:16 People don't know that that's how he lost that shit. Well, I heard that from my uncle who works at Nintendo. That's right. So, yes, that's one of the fundamental facts. I am a, Miles brought that up because I'm a violent sneezer. Oh, me too. Okay. I sneezed right before you joined and it stopped the call.
Starting point is 00:01:33 our producer Bay went, ooh, nasty. Do you feel like, have you been in situations where you just absolutely have to do it and it's like very uncomfortable? Children's like Christmas recital.
Starting point is 00:01:47 And I'm like, hey, hold up. You guys are going to need to stop for about 15 to 20 seconds because not only am a violent sneezer, I am a serial sneaser. And I also want to put your COVID masks on because when I sneeze inside an enclosed space, you might as well put that fucking
Starting point is 00:02:06 tent over the building. That's when I brainstorm. For fumigation. That's when I brainstorm. I have to have some kind of nasal privilege because I'm realizing now, I don't think I've ever had to disrupt anything with a sneeze.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Like I think I've always been able to hold it in if I have to work. My friend's dad used to say, he would say horseshit as the way he would sneeze. And it was so funny that we start. Yeah, he'd go, oh shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:33 And we were like, fuck, yeah. That's the shit. I don't even know if I have that kind of dexterity. You got to try it. I could blend the two that way. That's incredible. Yeah, you got to. Just try it.
Starting point is 00:02:45 That's like level 10 sneezing, you know, or just going bullshit. Like, yes, yes. Has anybody ever done a study into like how unavoidable sneezing styles are? Like, I do wonder, as a loud sneezer, I do wonder, am I just not trying as hard as other people to, like, hold it in? like do I just have a greedy soul where I'm just like I won't no no no because it's bad it is I'm pretty sure it is not good for your fucking like ear drums and shit like to go that to go that hard because imagine you know like
Starting point is 00:03:16 how you just try and pop your ears and all it takes is a little bit of to like pop your ears imagine the strength of a full like full lung capacity that trying to hold it in is not good holding it in is terrible I think right yeah yeah the people but there is the alternate situation where you are you sneezing loud enough to destroy your own eardroped on the other side. Without holding. No, probably not, because it's all about the pressure not going somewhere.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Yeah, that's true. So, all right, great. Settled. It says while there are, this is according to the Cleveland Health Clinic, while there are some no negative consequence of holding to see sneeze, there aren't any reported cases of death. Damn. Okay, great.
Starting point is 00:03:56 It's a very low bar. Yeah. I mean, we're pretty sure it won't kill you that we know of. Although how many people have just like, we don't know that's not what killed Elvis. They just rolled up on him and he was dead on the floor of his bathroom. Right. Oh, man. It does feel like if you could just like be able to see it.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Like I can just picture it would be so funny like a CSI Miami and Horatia's like, yep, this one held it in and puts his tongue. Yeah. No, I'm sure a lot of cocaine deaths have been mislabeled because actually they were tried to protect the stuff. That's what a cocaine addict wants to believe. He's like, no, no. It was actually he's tried to hold him a sneeze. That's what happened. He kept
Starting point is 00:04:43 it gazoon too tight. Oh, wow. You know what I mean? That's what I was waiting for. I mean that as a drop. Just that fucking teenage wasteland scream. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Oh, it won't get fooled again. That's what I do. I keep fucking. God, I fuck that up. Nope. Leave it in. I fucked that up. I fucked that up.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Justin, leave it in. Yeah, leave it in. But yeah, God, I'm going to get my fucking head ripped off by these fucking boo-fans. You did get fooled again by your, God.
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Starting point is 00:07:47 Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 428, episode 5 of DERDALY Zy! It's a production of IHeartRadio. It's a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness through the day's news. We also have a new non-news history version of TDZ dropping every Monday morning, where we do a deep dive into the zeitgeis through the lens of, a different icon this past week we did Stephen King on Monday we've got the iconic gray alien face and how we landed on that how we perhaps collectively hallucinated it or perhaps the answer is just like yeah they're they're real they're out there they keep showing up in my house every night
Starting point is 00:08:31 well you'll find out on Monday we got Jason Pargin coming through for that anyways it is Friday 26th, 2026. What a good day, Friday. It's got to say it was a good day. Exactly. It's today's day of the dude. I don't know if that's, I'm only going to read that in terms of the big Lebowski. Let's hope this is the Lebowski reference.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Real men also cry. Real men. That's also such an under-aid, though. That delivery. Big men, real men also. It's also. Philipsymore-Haw's performance, that entire movie is so great. Like, yes, Mr.
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Starting point is 00:09:26 I don't know. That's like the old, they used, I don't think they caught forensics anymore. I think they've moved on because I think, it's funny, my uncle-in-law, he was like a huge. It's like one of the OGs. of like forensic debate like in high school and college
Starting point is 00:09:42 Oh wow Like up until like one of the grades? Yeah yeah like one of the greats Like with like you know And then he ended up like being an understudy of like Lawrence tribe Like that like you know Huge lawyer in D.C. Anyway
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Starting point is 00:11:12 It was just coming through us. Say it again. Our spam horniness, I guess. It is what it is, baby. But we love the canned meat. What can we say? I think I did after the read, be like, was that too horny? But yeah, I like the conjunctivitis sweet because, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:31 You do like to fit in pink eye as an appetizing. Yeah, exactly. Poetic turn of phrase. Miles were thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a comedian whose writing has been featured in, I don't know, The New Yorker. I've heard of that one. McSweeney's.
Starting point is 00:11:50 I've heard of that. Reductress. Heard of that. And who hosts the show, Abolish Everything. Please welcome. Chandler D. Hey! Gentlemen, thank you so much for having me.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Yes, thanks for joining. The Dean Scream himself. Yeah. That's right. That's what they call me starting now. Let's hear it. Do you got a Dean's cream? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:10 There we go. There we go. And now we're going down around. If you, if you can believe it, it took me, I did not really make, because I speak loudly in life.
Starting point is 00:12:22 And I did not make the connection. Big stick too. Well, yes, exactly. Usually how people do it. Yes. And that's a classic Howard Dean quote. Speak loudly and carry a big stick.
Starting point is 00:12:32 But yeah, I didn't make the connection, of course, at any time I'm loud. It is the Dean's, scream. That's right. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Thank you for acknowledging that. We've gotten it out of the way. Everyone was thinking it. Well, Miles does open every episode with a Dean scream. So it is on people. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:51 It's just, it's my favorite thing. It's just so fun. It's just the dumbest shit. Well, it's also like it shows the power that sound engineers used to have in politics. Because he is screaming at a totally appropriate level for the crowd. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Yeah. Nobody in the room was like, that was weird. Right, but it's a unit directional mic. They were not micing the audience. And so he just sounds like a complete lunatic. And I legitimately like, whoever organized the sound engineering for that event might have stopped that man from becoming president of the United States. Lunatic now at that point, you're like, oh, at the time, people were like, oh, no, he yelled. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Right. Well, because at that time, there were only two to three clips of every presidential candidate that the public saw per year. We don't want to talk about him advocating for universal health care. So let's just reduce him to the screaming guy. This guy seems crazy. Incredible. Chandler, we're thrilled to have you. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
Starting point is 00:13:51 First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about. Christy Noem had a bad week. Damn. She just got fired. Replaced the most humiliating thing that can happen to you. Get fired and replaced by Mark. Quain Mullen. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:09 That's a tough one. So we're just going to talk about her bad week and enjoy, enjoy ourselves a little bit, luxuriate in Christine Holmes' very bad week. We're going to talk about RFK Jr. V. Duncan, the case that is going in front of the Supreme Court as we speak. No. It's just a, it just feels like people are over this motherfucker, generally. And so he said something and people are like, I'd like to see you try, motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:14:38 It kind of feels like we're reaching Dean's scream levels of like, just give me a reason to turn on these motherfuckers with the mega people. Like Christy Noem had somebody turned on her for the thing that we've been talking about for like two years about like what you wrote in her book about murdering a puppy. Like somebody just found out about that and like it was making a big deal about it. Anyways, it's their turn in the barrels. So we're going to talk about that. And then we're going to talk about daylight savings time because.
Starting point is 00:15:08 it is time to spring forward this weekend. And I feel like our writer, JM, has, has, we've covered this a number of times, but this is, this is the most infuriating version of this story that we've ever covered because not only is daylight savings time, like, bad for us. It's also basically a conspiracy by Better Business Bureau, like, consumer. you know, the councils and like places that are trying to get us to spend money. And also the golf lobby. Like the people who want golf,
Starting point is 00:15:49 want more money spent on golf have given us daylight savings time. I don't know. So I just want to, I've already said that I think we need to storm the golf clubs. Right. Just take them back, make them public parks. But this has sealed it for me. So we're going to talk about, that. Plenty more, but first, Chandler, we do like to ask our guests. What is something from your
Starting point is 00:16:13 search history that is revealing about who you are? I recently Googled the phrase, take umbrage, because I wanted to use it in a text to someone, but I wanted to make 100% sure I was both spelling it right and using it correctly. And yeah, and I, and so I did. You did? And how are you doing it? Did you nail it? I nailed it, but I also, thank you. Thank you very much. You know, because I'm like, this is a phrase I need to be using in casual conversation as much as possible. Right. But, but I also learned that it comes from the Latin word umbra, which means shadow. And the reason you would take umbrage is that you're, you're basically mad about being overshadowed.
Starting point is 00:16:57 And so, you know. Oh, yeah. Look at that a feeling of peak or resentment at some. Yes. Yeah. So that's a, it's really like not the, you're not covering yourself in glory. when taking umbrage you're right exactly no no oh and what does it mean to give umbrage can you give umbrage that's just to like shadow someone with an umbrella right i guess it is like you know when you take umbrage
Starting point is 00:17:22 the presumption is that that is what i was giving to you know if i insult to you i'm giving umbrage or you know if it's if it's just like oh like i'm getting the sense that he has an aura like he takes umbrage i'm giving umbrage yeah he's giving umbrage uh it's giving umbrage uh it's giving umbris uh it's giving Umbridge. That's right. What is something you think is underrated? This little first thought, but it's genuinely true. Wired earbuds.
Starting point is 00:17:48 I need them to go into style because I am constantly replacing my shitty Bluetooth earbuds, but I don't trust myself to get really nice ones because I will definitely lose them. I hate the process of connecting them. And when people are talking, like trying to talk. on the phone or whatever using Bluetooth headphones, it's also terrible. And this beautiful mic
Starting point is 00:18:13 that's just right there on the wired earbuds. It just works. You can make them last a long time. So I want more people wearing wired earbuds. Yeah. I see it more and more. It's funny in professional soccer in Europe, like they always show the players getting off the team bus.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Most of the guys have wired headphones. And everyone's like, Is that true? Yeah, they're like, what the, like you guys are fucking millionaires. And you have wired headphones. One thing I know is that,
Starting point is 00:18:37 Kamala Harris was very paranoid as she was right to be as vice president. And I think I want to say that she used wired for earbuds because she was like, yeah, Bluetooth earbuds could get hacked. Right. So, yeah, that's the other thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:54 And I think it may be just because it has like a look to it still. Like it's when I see it, I'm like, yeah, bro, you aren't headphones. Because I'm still like, I'm a millennial. You know what I mean? You know you can talk to that person. Yeah, yeah. And it just, I don't like I, I'm, I'm. I like my AirPods or whatever, but I also love like when I got real headphones on too.
Starting point is 00:19:13 It just makes me feel like I'm the coolest kid in 1999. How you store in those bad boys when they're not in your ear? You toss them over the shoulder, kind of in a lay-fing. Three-finger wrap around? Yeah. Oh, see, that's the rub. That's the thing that I have yet to master. Yeah, because I am constantly untangling them.
Starting point is 00:19:33 You still like kind of stick it down the front of my shirt a little bit just to like have them right there. I need them. That was also the look. When you tuck the, you tuck the cord and just have them kind of spilling out over the collar when not news. Oh, coming in through up and through. Up and through. Exactly. That's what I have. I have had it where my phones in my pocket, wired ear buds go all the way up and through the shirt. And it's just like that. Hell yeah. But then if you make too sudden of a move, it all gets disconnected. And it's a disaster. So one of the most stressful things that has ever happened to me is when you're like walking with wired headphones
Starting point is 00:20:08 and it like gets caught on like a door handle and it's like a full attack. Yeah, I hate that. Because it's like it is like a full body thing of like your phone's in danger, your head's in danger, your holes, you're getting caught up. And those it's,
Starting point is 00:20:24 yeah, those earphones are probably fucked a little bit too. Like I've had that happen and then like one of the earphones stops working because it's like it's too much. You know? Yes. They can't take that. That's actually bad. for them.
Starting point is 00:20:37 So we need clothes that are designed to like have, I need internal tube system. Yeah. Within my clothes to secure my wired. That does feel a little secret service coded. I don't. That's why I've never loved it is because like when it's wired up through my shit, I just feel a little bit too much like an, like I'm. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:57 You don't want your friends to think that you're wearing a wire at the club. Yeah. Yeah. You say you were saying they have clothes where you can like wire it. Yeah, I remember at the peak of like wired headphone era, too, like just 10 years ago, there were a ton of clothing that had like little holes for you to like, you know, thread the headphones, like cable through and stuff like that. It was kind of like a normal part.
Starting point is 00:21:19 But that was also when narcking was at its peak popularity. That's true. Right. It hasn't stopped, Chandler. It hasn't stopped, baby. We're still out here. We're still out here. Proud narcs.
Starting point is 00:21:30 People don't know, but snitches get bitches. That's okay. Have you an amazing movement. Pro snitch? Stitches get bitches. Oh, that's great. That's it. If we still made T-shirts,
Starting point is 00:21:48 that would be awesome. People are just out here saying anything. Snitches get hoes. No, they don't. That's not true. Sneeches get beaches. Thank you. What is something you think is overrated, Chandler?
Starting point is 00:22:03 I have been hearing everyone talking about, the pit and I cannot get into it because I think medical dramas in general are not for me overrated and I don't really I haven't exactly examined why I think it's one is maybe uh it's just gross it's like a bunch of gross shit happens all those shows. I don't want to see that no way you can I mean I'm I don't have that thing where like if you see gross shit while you're eating like it ruins your appetite like I can eat a bowl of oatmeal like and watch the gnarly shit on there my partner her majesty absolutely is like, we can't fucking watch this. She's like always covering her eyes.
Starting point is 00:22:40 We tried to casually watch how to with John Wilson while eating a meal. And I forgot that sometimes they'll just cut to like a toilet full of diarrhea because he thought it looked interesting. And it is an interesting toilet full of diarrhea. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Exactly. I mean, there is something to be gleaned from it. Somehow it's like, no, that was earned. That shot of the day. That was earned. That wasn't an unknowled. Exactly. It's up for two.
Starting point is 00:23:03 The lyricism of that toilet full of diarrhea. Yeah. The visual, aesthetic lyricism. Yeah, this is a take we've gotten before. A lot of people are there. The pit is, I agree with it. I don't feel like I've given it enough time to really say, to really like leap into your arms on this one.
Starting point is 00:23:24 But I will say, I don't get the, like, I think there is just something that, like, there are people who are just like, they get some sort of fucking sick pleasure. from watching that sort of shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're wrong. And they're sick of.
Starting point is 00:23:40 The other thing about it, just from a writing perspective, is I feel like it's cheating because the stakes are inherently high at a hospital. Someone is always dying. Oh, my God, here comes somebody who's been shot in the head three times.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Yeah, exactly. It's just a Deuce X Machina machine. And it's my fiancee. What the fuck? All right. Let's take a quick break, and we'll be right back. Ready for a different take on Formula One?
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Starting point is 00:28:24 And yesterday on Mike, Miles, we had a rare breaking news while we were recording the podcast, recording trends yesterday. We learned Christy Gnome has been filed. Goodbye. What was that? That's a sound bite I use called Cancelvania for a 420 Day Fiance. But what is the sound? It's just someone being thrown into some kind of dungeon, you know?
Starting point is 00:28:58 And that's you just being tossed aside as a cabinet member of this administration. Everyone's expendable, especially if you make the boss look bad, not because of your terrible work as a secretary of Homeland Security, but because you said you're doing bad stuff because he said you could. I do just want to honor her aesthetic contributions to this fascist moment that we're going through because there was something about her big, mega-faced address to the nation on the TVs at the airports. Oh, yeah. That really felt like it was in, like, it really made you feel like you were in Robocop. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Because she has, like, the surgically, you know, affected. look on and she's like looking directly at you and noce eyes yeah giving you hypnosis eyes i i do feel like she has contributed to the forwarding of the fascist aesthetics of this horrible fascist dictatorship well i was going to say erika kirk is cop and her style now that i now that i think about it right it's like hers are way more powerful i think erika like if we're ranking cult eyes erika kirk's are like that's what you're reaching for yes Because the second she talks, I'm like, oh shit, dude. I hear like, just like, fuck.
Starting point is 00:30:22 No, no, no, no, no. They're both very dramatic in their presentation and also dead. And that's what really, like, gives them. Well, you know that thing where if you just feed AI an image and you're like, just spit back the exact same image with no changes and you do it enough times. It becomes, you know, some horrific nightmare. I do think Erica Kirk is maybe five or six Christy knowums away. process. Yeah. But I mean like, yeah, this week she was deep fried, grilled, smoked, and roasted because she had to sit in front of both the Senate and House Judiciary Committees.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Porcena los both. Yeah. Porcena los both houses. We touched on some of the moments from the Senate where both sides of the aisle had strong words for her. Like, again, we talked about how Senator Kennedy, who's usually you'd be like, I thought he's going to be real nice to her because he's racist. had a lot of tough questions. I just want to play this one because this question is part of the buildup into what got her fired. Was this crazy $220 million contract that was awarded to some random company to make ads that were just like of her? You have spent $220 million running television advertisements. How do these people stay awake? I don't know. sir, the president tasked me with getting the message out to the country and to other countries
Starting point is 00:31:50 where we were seeing the invasion come from with putting commercials out that told them that if they were in this country illegally, that they needed to leave or we would detain them and remove them and they'd not get the chance to come back to America the right way. That has been extremely effective. Ask you to run these advertisements. Is that right? We had that conversation, yes. So this is, remember, if you remember the other things,
Starting point is 00:32:15 he asked was like, you called Alex Prady a domestic terrorist? And she's like, Stephen Miller, there was this whole thing about where she said, everything I do is at the behest of the president, Stephen. And he was like, that's, okay, so I've got you throwing Stephen Miller under the bus. And this, other questions, like, okay, so now you're blaming Trump for this.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Now you're blaming Trump for doing these stupid ads that are stupid and sucks. That's when the optics started to wobble a bit in the White House. But I do feel like these questions are coming directly from the White House, being like, get her ass, eat her up. We want her out. Yeah, we need something because it surely can't just be the fact that she's doing a terrible fucking job.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Right, that's true. I need, we need a little bit more to sell this. The other thing was Tom Tillis, you know, who's about to retire and found his spine, he decided to like grill her about the fucking that biography she wrote where she talked about offing the puppy. Here's him just really not having it over that part of her career even before she was at DHS. shooting a puppy to death, right, with a gun? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah. Summary execution of a puppy. Summary execution, just.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Distresses me. And I'll give you a good example of one that does. The passage where you talk about killing a dog that was 14 months old, I train dogs. See, that's where you, I know dogs. When he said, as a trainer to dogs. As a father to doctors. You fucked up. All right.
Starting point is 00:33:42 And you are a farmer. You should know better. You should know that if you're going out to a hunting lodge and you're putting pheasants out and you're putting dogs out, you don't take a puppy out there. A 14-month-old dog is basically a teenager in dog years. Oh, so now we care about teenagers, too? Uh-huh. Interesting. I'm surprised you didn't say that the 14-month-old is basically an adult dog. You decided to kill that dog because you had not invested the appropriate time in training. Anyway, he goes on and is like, shame on you. He's like, and you said those things make you good at making bad, tough decisions as a leader.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Just, I think it was important to note, Tom Tillis did vote to confirm her as secretary. Oh, yeah. Just like, you could have said this at the confirmation hearing if you wanted to, found. But again, you found your spinal cord on the way out the door. So you gave people a sound bite. Yeah, but that was like 14 dog years ago.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Yeah, yeah, exactly. So how could we blame him? Truly. That's right. Yeah. There was also, so then Thursday, she ended up in front of the House Judiciary Committee, and they talked about everything, you know, like they did in the Senate hearing conditions in these concentration camps, the treatment of American citizens, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:53 stealing children away and trying to lie about it, the lack of restraint from her DHS goons. Sydney Kamlager Dove kicked off her time. She's just like, I'm just going to like read some headlines about what's like just about the DHS right now, just so I can enter that in the record. So this is just like, oh, greatest hits where she didn't even really ask questions. She's like, let me just read things out loud that are being written about DHS in your tenure. Before I yield my time, I would like to enter into the record. Nome tightens her grip on DHS.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Lowellandowski fired FEMA admin. Without objection. What you're hearing is Jim Jordan basically saying, like, without objection, she can enter these things. So that's what you're hearing. The next one is Christy Noam. secretly took a cut of political donations from ProPublica. Without objection. Is he saying with the pilot?
Starting point is 00:35:47 Or without? Without, yeah. A blanket, but is forced to reinstate him to fly home, Wall Street Journal. Without objection. Lewandowski taking out trash at Nome's D.C. home, Daily Beast. By his Barbie's mile high privacy chamber with alleged lever exposed. Wall Street Journal, how Corey Lelandowski became Christy Noam's gatekeeper at D.H. Objection. A pilot
Starting point is 00:36:12 fired over Christy Noem's missing blanket and the constant chaos inside DHS, Wall Street Journal. Police charge... So again, this goes on for a while and she keeps bringing up the stuff about her and Corey Lewandowski having an affair. Just so you know, her husband
Starting point is 00:36:28 is sitting right behind her, too, while all of this is happening. He's sitting right behind Christine Nome. It's right behind Christine Nome there, like in the audience, like in the gallery. And then her answer to this was just to like, filibuster a ton. And then, you know, a bunch of other people kept asking, like, if you want, you can just say no, you know, like it should be easy when we ask, like, are you having a,
Starting point is 00:36:50 do you have a relationship, like an extramarital relationship with Cori Lewandowski? She's like, I can't believe you guys are talking about this tabloid stuff the whole time. And the, then she would, like, Kamliger Doves point was, if you're the head of Homeland Security to keep American safe, like, I'm trying to gauge whether or not your, your decision-making abilities are totally compromised. Like that's kind of a big deal. But again, it just turned into,
Starting point is 00:37:14 these are all just, these are all rumors. This is tabloid stuff. She's like, I think anyone in your position would be, would love to be able to say, no,
Starting point is 00:37:21 absolutely not. No on the record. Absolutely not. I'm not having, I'm not fucking a subordinate. Okay. But again, the fact that you would even suggest that.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Yeah. No, but you could say, you didn't say no. And the fact that you're even saying that I didn't say no. Whoa. This is actually crazy.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Let me get this right. Hold on. Like, that's trashy. Like, what you're even doing? Like, this is really trashy. Let's talk about you for a second. But then again, I think the hammer that just some, like, again, all of the biggest controversy with Trump that we're learning is about this money and where it went. This is a congressman Joan, a goose who's basically saying, what's going on with all this money?
Starting point is 00:38:03 Because the big thing with this is this contract, there's like a $143 million. contract, just awarded to, like, her friend. And that's what we're, that's what he's kind of getting at in this sort of line of questioning. Of the hundreds of thousands of companies in the United States, you identified four. One of those is this Safe America Media Company. Where is Safe America Media headquartered? I don't know. I don't know either, Madam Secretary. We can't find it. We can't find a website. We did find an address that's registered for this company. Do you know where that address is? Is there a problem with this contract? I'll tell you about it. Madam Secretary, The address is registered to a political operative.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Madam Secretary, the company, and I'm not giving an opportunity to respond. The company is registered to a political operative in Virginia. Do you know, just by way of example, whether this company that received $143 million in taxpayer dollars, has it ever done work for the government before? I don't know. I can't. The answer is it has not. And do you know why we know that? Because it was incorporated eight days, eight days before this country.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Or this contract went out. So it's fucking, yeah. And again, this company has ties to her former spokesperson's fucking husband. Which leads us. Shell companies. Just payoffs and shit. And so the headlines on Thursday morning were Trump asking senators, should I fire Nome? This one, quote,
Starting point is 00:39:29 Trump dialed up some GOP senators after Nome testified. Trump has said to be especially upset about Nome's response when Senator John Kennedy pressed her Tuesday about a government-funded ad campaign that Kennedy said only served to boost her own personal name recognition. That was basically... That's the one where she was like, he told me to. So you're going to have to talk to the president because that's on him. He said I could.
Starting point is 00:39:51 He said I could. And he probably did. But again, late. You don't say that shit. Yeah, this is what it is. So he made your bed. You dug your gravel pit. The best, like the death of Stalin, like that movie, have you guys seen that movie?
Starting point is 00:40:05 that's like all about the last days of Stalin and like how the, you know, the cabinet members essentially around him are all just, you know, they, like,
Starting point is 00:40:16 Stalin is this, it's not like, explicitly based on truth. It's written by the guy who made beep and directed by him. And it's, and it's a comedy. But it is like about this dynamic that existed
Starting point is 00:40:30 where you're just having to play this game of impressing this person who is, completely addled and like might have you killed at a moment's notice just because you, you know, upset them or said something that like stuck in their mind the wrong way. Right. But that feels like what all these people's lives have to be like at this point. Yeah. Did you see the fake new position that he's giving Secretary Noam?
Starting point is 00:40:55 Oh, no. There's a new. Oh, what is it? He has named her special envoy for the shield of the Americas, which is not a position that existed before. It places her basically as the ambassador to the Western Hemisphere as they, you know, as they protect the borders of North and South America. So what the fuck is the shield? The special envoy for the shield of the Americas. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Like the Captain America shield. Like the Captain America. It's a big dome that Space Force is making to go north and South America. Why don't she go over there and work on that for a little bit? Does she, I wonder, does she know anything that could damage the president? They're like, look, we're not totally firing you because we don't want to upset you. You can have this zero energy job. But yeah, we forgot to say that the person, we did mention on the trending episode, the person replacing her,
Starting point is 00:41:52 Senator, come at me, bro, Mark Wayne Mullen, the one who famously, if you remember, tried to fight the head of the teamster, Sean O'Brien during a hearing, which I think is just just good to, to just jog our memories what that sounded like when a senator tried to fight a teamster. You want to do it now? I'd love to do it right now. Well, stain your butt up, then. You stand your butt up.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Oh, hold on. Oh, stop it. No, no, sit down. You're a United States senator. Actively. Okay. Sit down. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Sit down. Okay. All right, dad. All right, dad. The motherfuckerfucker say he wanted to fucking get down, dad. Just let me fucking bang, dad. Let me fucking bang, bro. Let me fucking bang.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Oh my God, he started crying. He did stand up and start taking his jewelry off. Like literally, he started, like, fiddling with his ring. Like, I'm like, mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, we'll see.
Starting point is 00:42:46 If it were the UK Parliament, they would have let him do it. That's the problem with this country. But real, real, and it would have been proper fisticuffs, too. Yeah. Bertie would have been backing up. Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:02 The Mark Wayne, I feel like, again, it's like a derivative of a derivative, it is the dumbest name that there could be for a senator. Mark Wayne. Mark Wayne. And, yeah, when I read this news, I thought it was a misspoke. I could not believe it. Yeah. I mean, because that's a, that's a, you're the face of the worst shit, too. Like, the worst domestic shit as head of DHS with everything that's going on with.
Starting point is 00:43:32 the immigration shit. It sounds like a slur for white people, Mark Wayne. Yeah, yeah. We got all these Mark wanes here. Yeah, yeah, that's fucking Mark Wayne. They're like, I wonder his parents heard. They're like, I heard this little black boy's name was Mark Juan. You know, we should. How do I don't want him to, that about Mark Wayne. Mark wine. Yeah, there we go. Class it up. I do feel like we're at this moment where people are just fed up enough with the people in this administration. Like there's a story where RFK Jr. appeared at the Eat Real Food rally in Austin, Texas and said, we're going to ask Dunkin' Donuts and Starbucks, show us the safety data that show that it's okay for a teenage girl to drink an iced coffee with 115 grams of sugar in it. I don't think they're going to be able to do it.
Starting point is 00:44:22 And I do feel... Okay, show me the studies that show it's safe to drink raw milk all the time. Right. Yes. But it is funny that this is like, he's like, all right, I'm about to drop my one scientifically correct statement of the year. Right, right, right. This much sugar and caffeine is bad for children. And everyone was like, fuck you.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Like that. Fuck you, pal. Yeah. This sparked an immediate online backlash, including from the governor of Massachusetts, more hilly. I just, it's like, it continues to be such a mismatch because I feel like this kind of quack. you know, food science stuff was supposed to be the purview of like, you know, of lefty vegans in certain corners of Portland, like, oh, you know, the purity of food or whatever. He's in Texas and trying to be like there's too much sugar in stuff.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Yeah. You're going to talk about, have you, I'm sorry, RFK, did you eat at all when you're in Austin? Because Jack and I, our arteries were almost clogged from eating a salad. I got a salad that was the most fat in it. Like, I felt myself getting fatter as I was eating it. It was all dressing. It was all dressing. I remember like, Jesus, Jack, you want some salad with your dressing, man?
Starting point is 00:45:42 It was crazy. Anyway, I was stressing there was on that. And I guess he couldn't come for the, like, like, well, you can talk about barbecue too? Right. Talk about brisket? Because I'm sure you could talk about that, you know, but hey. I'm from Texas, and I feel like the one way that I relate to the president. is my body's relationship with McDonald's, which is to say that...
Starting point is 00:46:02 Yeah, I will die without it. Exactly. Like, actually, my body... The further you are away from that, the more my body inherently rejects it. And so I am really, like, amused to read the stories of, like, RFK's stuck on a cross-country flight on Air Force One, and it's only big backs available on board. Yeah, so... He's just eating the shredded lettuce.
Starting point is 00:46:25 I just like dumping. I do feel like we're at the stage where, like, I think in at its like normal, like the U.S. and the media like inherently sort of doesn't like liberals at least. Like they bodily reject, like this is where the Dean's scream thing came from. They were just like,
Starting point is 00:46:53 I don't know, fuck this guy. Or Dukakis wearing a stupid helmet. It's just like, the mainstream media is owned by very rich people who would be hurt by the, like, liberal fiscal policy. And so they're like, we're going to, you know, at least in theory, not in the actual Democrats, liberal fiscal policy, but in theory. And so, like, they just generally reject them. But, like, I feel like we're at a point with the MAGA administration and, like, the people who work for it, where people are just, like, I don't know. I fucking, I hate them all.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Like stuff that they've been getting away with for like a couple years now. Everyone's just like, no, so you shit killed a fucking puppy. Shut a puppy in the head. And like this guy's talking about coming for Duncan, I'd like to see you try, bro. Yeah. Well, it's like it's all that we have, right? Like it's like we do not have any of the sort of fundamental rights or privileges that the left is trying to earn. So that cannot be taken away. But what we do have is our ability
Starting point is 00:48:00 to go and eat Dunkin' Donuts, whatever we want. That's freedom. And they really, they're falling into the liberal trap of like, of hectoring and lecturing and being like, no, no, no, you shouldn't do this or that. And I think that's like, it's the only thing that breaks through. Because other people suffering, you know, not relevant. Right. But anything that impacts the three things I get to do every week in this country. Yeah, that is going to do it. Because it's funny too, like when Biden was in office at the time, like, oh, you know, maybe we can like look at like more regenerative ways of, like,
Starting point is 00:48:35 raising cattle or like agriculture. And then Republicans just take that as like, they don't want you to ever eat your hamburgers. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. No one even said that. Meanwhile, you have RFK full frontal attack on fucking donkeys.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Yeah. On wax, bro. Like, you're actually saying, like, fuck Dunkin' Donuts in Starbucks that's bro have you seen how people how addicted people are to those fucking drinks and shit
Starting point is 00:49:02 he he is against candy he gets candy yeah you know yeah like it's not gonna play yeah yeah you know and he is the picture of health so long as he doesn't the sickest looking and sounding man like always looks like he's about to burst
Starting point is 00:49:18 just like literally like in a in a blood like a balloon full of blood yeah he's just gonna pop. But he's got the beautiful complexion of a Boston market rotisserie chicken. Mmm, yama, yama, yama. Golden gold. Yeah. Yeah. Let's take a quick break. We'll be back to talk about daylight savings time. Ready for a different take on Formula One? Look no further than no grip. A new podcast tackling the culture of motor racing's most coveted series. Join me, Lily Herman, as we dive into the under-explored pockets of F1, including the astrology of the current grid,
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Starting point is 00:53:40 Listen to the Sixth Bureau on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back. And this weekend sees the return of daylight savings time. Oh, shit. The lamest form of time travel in existence. Yes, this is the one where we lose an hour of sleep.
Starting point is 00:54:07 British Columbia is going to be putting their clocks forward for the last time. The Canadian province has made headlines for their new plan to adopt permanent daylight savings time. According to officials, this is because evidence suggests there are many benefits to ending the seasonal time change. And there are. Yeah. You know, the change of time is. Like having the shift is not good. There's more car accidents, more heart attacks, more fatal car accidents.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Like the car accidents are worse in the days immediately following the time change. I do like this quote from one of the politicians behind this change. This decision isn't just about clocks. It's about making life easier for families. I had a feeling it wasn't just about clocks. Hey, this is just about clocks. I'm worried their arms are getting tired. from all the back and forth.
Starting point is 00:55:01 But I really want the Canadian opposition leader to say, ladies and gentlemen, this is the decision about clocks. This is just all about clocks. Don't be fooled. It's pretty straightforward. They're pro-clock agenda. It's really, then there's Canadians that need help. Every politician and by extension now,
Starting point is 00:55:20 chat GPT and CEO, whatever, is addicted to the construction. It isn't just about X. It's about Y. Right, right. So when something is about something very simple, you have to come up with an even simpler thing that it's not just about. It's not just about, man.
Starting point is 00:55:33 This is about human beings. Oh, I just took it literally. It's just easier if we just don't have to do daylight savings no more. The economy isn't just about money. It's about the exchange of money. Oh, okay. Shit. However, we hadn't gotten this fine-sliced in our,
Starting point is 00:55:58 objection to daily savings. I feel like we're always talking about the health stuff. Yes, we're always talking about the health stuff and how the back and forth is bad. However, between the two, so they're switching to permanent daylight savings stuff. That is something that we have tried before in the United States, and it did not go well. It was like popular with people at first. I think it was like 70% popular. This was during the Nixon administration.
Starting point is 00:56:24 It was popular because people were like, yeah, we don't like changing our clocks back and forth. But a year into just it being permanent daylight savings and it plummeted in popularity. It was like way less popular. It was like in the 40s after starting out in the 70s. And so
Starting point is 00:56:42 they went back to doing the switch. So daylight savings time which is like what we're about to be in is it's bad like for all the reasons. So it doesn't even if you're doing it permanently, it's bad
Starting point is 00:56:58 according to sleep experts, because it's getting darker, like at the wrong time. The mornings, so the mornings are darker and it's light later is essentially what it does. So that causes people to lose an average of 30 minutes of sleep each day when we're in daylight savings time compared to standard time. You have less morning light, which can decrease levels of, like, you know, serotonin, because that's like, you know, your body reacts to the light. outside and it's like, okay, it's time to wake up and like get things going. And also it's just more dangerous. You're like sending kids to school in pitch dark during daylight savings time. The reason, so the people who are pushing for daylight savings time are just essentially
Starting point is 00:57:43 people who want us to spend money. Like the way that they've always sold it, that it's like about safety or it's about energy savings. When they did it for a year, Nobody wanted to go to work in school when it was, quote, jet black outside, as one parent complained at the time. Eight students in Florida died in traffic accidents in the week following the change. Similar incidents led some schools to just delay classes until the sun came up, and it saved little energy and may have actually caused an uptick in gasoline consumption. And that's actually the goal is to, like, have people out later buying stuff. is essentially who is lobbying for this. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Wait, what's the difference between what Arizona does and permanent daylight savings time? Because Arizona, I just know, I guess the difference is Arizona just doesn't, they're like, we don't even observe it at all. So. I don't know. Are they, are they, I don't know if they're permanent daylight or their permanent standard. Yeah, I think they are permanent standard time. Well, that's good.
Starting point is 00:58:49 That's what we should, that's what we should be pushing for. Because their whole thing, too, was if there, if the clock is saying, there's an extra hour of daylight, especially for how hot it is, they're like, people are going to be subjected to, like, way worse heat. And that was more of an argument about, like, you can't subject people to this much heat. Also, they're going to, the air conditioners are going to be used a lot more if, like, businesses are open at the same time. Right. They're just, like, working, they're working off of necessity. Right, right, right. Whereas, like, so when daylight savings time first became U.S. law in 1918, the official reason was fuel savings, but
Starting point is 00:59:24 conspicuously, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce was the major backer for the policy. And the idea was Americans getting off work while it was still light out, meant they would be more likely to go out shopping in the evening. And like 7-Eleven has been behind this. They're like, people are scared to come into 7-Elevens when it's dark out. So we need to. So the whole thing, like our wives are completely shaped by just these lobbyists. And the worst lobbyists of all, a number of varied industries profit off daylight savings time and aggressively lobby to keep it, including the golf industry.
Starting point is 01:00:03 Lobbyists for the golf industry are largely credited for Congress expanding daylight savings time by a month in the mid-80s because they reasoned that the sector would make $200 million more in sales of golf clubs and green fees every year if there was an extra month of daylight savings time. Jesus. So we're just living in a world designed by golfers. Right. It's so infuriating. Yeah. It's funny too because I was saying about the Epstein files, like it's clear, you know, like, there's just wealthy people just make all the decisions. And it's like sloppy Illuminati.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Like you'd think they're like, they're all in this fucking place. I mean, they all fuck off to like little retreats and shit. But like it's as simple as like, no, the golf industry needed to make more money. So that's why the daylight savings is like they have a huge influence over that. So they can get that. We are like even think about how the the amount of tax dollars subsidize private golf courses. And you're like, of course. Like yeah, it's all it's not even it's not even secret.
Starting point is 01:01:02 It's just people like, yeah, what the fuck I want? We've talked about this before on the that like in Los Angeles in particular, like the best parks in L.A. are private golf courses. Right. Both like people, you have to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars each year to belong to. you have to like get accepted to by being like friends with the rich people who already belong to it. White. Yes, you have to be white.
Starting point is 01:01:28 White. And we subsidize them. Like they have a tax. They pay less taxes on that land than they should because the people who belong to those private golf courses are the people who make decisions in Los Angeles. So they're, you know, there's that. reason to storm the golf courses and, you know, occupy, occupy the golf courses. But fucking daylight savings time, like that, that is really infuriating. So does oil come into it because of the gas?
Starting point is 01:02:04 Yeah, oil does go. All comes into it. Candy companies come into it. All the ones that are just like, yeah, fuck people's health. Yeah, candy companies. Anything where you are just not at home because it's dark out in the the evening. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Like, yeah. And also, like, when do I eat candy is like when I'm like fucking tired and, you know, out of, you know. Oh, I eat it for breakfast. Yeah. Well, you're fucking tired in the morning. Because my mom said I couldn't for so many fucking years. And guess what, dude, now that I live alone without mom, I eat candy for breakfast every day.
Starting point is 01:02:40 RFK is so fucking pissed. Oh, yeah. He's punching to air. Oh, yeah. Punch away. The number of sectors formed the daylight savings time coalition. lobbying group, including the grill and charcoal industries, the amusement park industry, the candy industry, fast food companies, and makers of sporting goods.
Starting point is 01:03:00 Wow. Wow. 7-11's parent company argued that, quote, a longer period of daylight savings time would help women, thank you, King, for standing up for women, who were allegedly uncomfortable approaching their stores after dark. Sounds like a you problem. Right. They've got to stop hiring somebody creeps in your stores.
Starting point is 01:03:20 That's right. They say we look creepy in the dark for some reason. Anyways, come on. Yeah. Here, ladies. Well, I have to admit that I come to this with a little bit of East Coast bias here. Because I find, I think, in New York, there's a more of a among people. There's a little bit more of a pro-permanent daylight savings time vibe, just because the way that the
Starting point is 01:03:47 time zone works, the sun rises unusually early and sets unusually early just by default. Yes. Because the eastern time zone takes, it's like, it's enormous. It's like much wider than all the other time zones in the U.S. Well, maybe they fucking adjust that. Maybe they need to split it up. There needs to, they need to split it in half because I, and I, because I think that's what the push and pull is is everyone's like, you know, it is an imperfect system that is, you know, And basically the forces within the country that, like, slightly prefer one over the other are in death grips. What it's just like, just add another time zone if it's consistently fucked up. Right.
Starting point is 01:04:30 The oil industry is on the side. It's just all the ones that are bad. Are on the side of permanent daylight savings. And by that, I mean all these industries and you, Chandler Dean and the city of New York, all the bad guys. I stand with the oil and gas companies, quote me on it. Because daily savings time increases gasoline consumption. So even though the entire way it was sold to us was like farmers and also energy savings, it's like, no, you're going to spend more money because it's late later.
Starting point is 01:05:01 You're going to have like more things to do after work, after school. Right. Well, it's also, I've thought about it before where it is like, again, genuinely. Like it bums me out when the sun sets before like 5 p.m. and I do want to do more hanging out. And that's really what it's all about. It's about my desire to hang out, wait against the safety of children in Minnesota.
Starting point is 01:05:24 Right, right. Who are being brought to school in pitch black darkness. Yeah. Also, it's never dark in New York City. So you guys are fun. That's true. The beautiful lights of the skyline. City that never see.
Starting point is 01:05:35 City bright lights. Exactly. Or sleeps. So you've got this, there's basically two sides. Like the people who are pushing for standard time are the, American Academy of Sleep Medicine and Airlines for airlines are pushing for it.
Starting point is 01:05:51 So you got those two massively powerful, the sleep medicine people, the massively powerful sleep medicine lobby. And so they have kept it a like compromise. We're kind of locked in the shitty compromise that is the worst of both worlds because just keep just keep rolling it back, dude. Keep going back. Every time, just get another hour or sleep. Yeah, people are like, fuck, yeah, dude, I don't care.
Starting point is 01:06:20 Even like 4 p.m. will look like 5 a.m. eventually. But you know what? We deserve it. Fuck a circadian rhythm. We should have a council of golfers and whatever they advocate for. We just do the opposite of that. We come to you the council of golfers, oil and gas magnates and candy makers. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 01:06:39 Please, please. What have you to say about our lived reality? Oh, my people. Yeah, that's right. Chandler Dean, such a pleasure having you. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? I'm at Chandler J. Dean on everything, and then my show Abolish Everything is on Nebula at nebula. Atnebola.combe slash Abolish.
Starting point is 01:07:03 You can follow us at Abolish Everything, NYC. Nice. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Well, you took mine, but I'm going to reiterate. that Chris Fleming's special is the most recent thing I've watched. And I completely agree. It's incredible, so funny, so fresh. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:07:24 I was just like, I feel so embittered, having watched so much comedy and feeling like it just washes over me. And, you know, it doesn't feel surprising. And he is like a true original. Like it really somehow feels like he has not just been influenced or shaped by some other popular thing. Like he's, he is going to be copied and I'm sure is already being copied.
Starting point is 01:07:49 And yeah, it's, it's a marvel to see. Yeah, he's really good. Miles, where can people find you as their work in media? You've been enjoying.
Starting point is 01:07:56 Yeah, find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. You can find me talking about 90 day fiancee on 420 day fiancee. And I'm talking about soccer on Aint Footy with Jamel Johnson. And Chris Martin, not of. Hold play. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:08:16 What do we? Workin Media. This is from at Juddlegum. Dot Biscay.com. Social said flashback. Bezos' revamped editorial board. Really nailed this one. It's about Christy Noem.
Starting point is 01:08:25 It said, Homeland Security. Kristy Noem. Thumbs up. Dog jokes aside. She has served in Congress in two terms as governor of South Dakota. Yeah, peace to that one. It's still abolish ice all fucking day. Work media.
Starting point is 01:08:40 I've been enjoying Robbie the, Goodwin tweeted Shia Leboff implies the existence of Sunni Leboof. Excellent. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien on Blue Sky at Jack O'B, then the number one. And on Instagram at Jack underscore O underscore Brian, you can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zykeyes. We're at The Daily Zykeyes on Instagram. You can go to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it. there at the bottom you will find a footnotes,
Starting point is 01:09:14 which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. Hey Miles, is there a song that you think people might enjoy? Yeah, this track is called Mesa Mesa by the band Youf, Y-U-U-S.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Like, instrumental, like if you like Krung Bin, you like kind of vibe, sort of, you know, potentially like, you know, kind of South Asian, Middle Eastern, key tonality sort of stuff, but people rumping on, tumping on guitar and bass and drums.
Starting point is 01:09:47 I think you'll like this. So this is Mesa Mesa by you. All right. We will link off to that in the footnote. The Daily Zykeist is a production of IHeartRadio for more podcasts from IHartRadio, visit the IHartRadio App Apple podcast or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
Starting point is 01:10:03 That's going to do it for us this week. We are back tomorrow with a highlight reel of this week's episodes, the weekly zeitgeist and then back on Monday morning with the next iconograph. Yeah. And we will talk to you all then. Bye, bye, bye. The Daily Zykeyes is executive produced by Catherine Law.
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