The Daily Zeitgeist - Nonstop Rudy, Fecal Felon 1.27.20

Episode Date: January 27, 2020

In episode 556, Jack and Miles are joined by comic artist Kim Winder to discuss Lev Parnas being younger than Jared Leto, impeachment updates, Pete Buttigieg defending himself, a potential New Orleans... Saints cover up, a mystery pooper being caught, and more!FOOTNOTES: Lev Parnas is somehow younger than Jared Leto 'Take her out': Recording appears to capture Trump at private dinner saying he wants Ukraine ambassador fired Trump’s Team Warns GOP Senators: Vote Against Him, And Their ‘Head Will Be On A Pike’ — Report 'Vote against the president, and your head will be on a pike': GOP Senators 'are warned' not to break ranks with Trump in impeachment vote Trump’s Mad His Lawyers Have To Defend Him When TV Ratings Are Low ‘Bulls---’: Buttigieg chafes at criticism over McKinsey work Pete Buttigieg Bakers, grocers involved in 16-year price-fixing conspiracy: Competition Bureau How Mayor Pete's consulting work for Loblaws brought the Canadian bread price-fixing scandal to Democratic primary Pete Buttigieg Denies Involvement With Canada's Bread Price-Fixing Scandal NFL’s Saints seek to shield PR help to church in sex crisis MASSACHUSETTS WOMAN ALLEGED PARKING LOT POOPER ... Busted By Cops WATCH: Andy Shauf - "Neon Skyline" Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:02 Or Lacey gets it. Do it. wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen, okay? Or Lacey gets it. Do it. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 118, Episode 1 of Dirt Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say, officially off the top, fuck the Koch brothers, fuck Fox News, and fuck Bloomberg 2020. Those are all people who've tried to advertise on this show uh with otherwise we love otherwise otherwise we would love uh yeah if they weren't love what they stand for just don't try and advertise come on uh straight up uh it's Monday, January 27, 2020. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a.
Starting point is 00:02:45 When the moon hits your eye like an impeachment pie, that's amore. Got cold brew set aside for the Zamboni ride, that's amore. Miles of gray and a hosnier. And it's safe to say that we got O'Brien. Taco Bell, get a Mexi Melt. Fuck the Cokes as well. It's the Daily Zyguys. Courtesy of at Fickle Mister.
Starting point is 00:03:27 And I'm thrilled to be joined, always by my co-host Mr. Miles Rake! I'm all out of shake This is how I deal. So sober I am shamed. Scraping resin from my bowl I should have bought a vape
Starting point is 00:03:43 But I'm so horrible real. I can't fake and I can't see the I should have bought a vape But I'm so armorial I can't fake and I can't see The perfect high forlorn You won't know me deep When I'm watching some porn Watching some porn Try to take that journey with your character in that song.
Starting point is 00:04:04 So I was trying to twist up a blunt, and I realized I had no herbage. Okay. So then I'm like, oh, I've got to do this comeback thing. You're scraping, you're hitting resin bowls. I'm all out of shape. Scraping out, scraping the bowl. And then I'm like, damn, if I had a vape, I'm going to hit that. But because I'm arboreal, I like the plants.
Starting point is 00:04:20 I love it. But then you realize you have ED, or you realize you don't have ED because you realize you're watching porn. Whoa, no ED? Wait. I don't know. Yeah, I was just confused by that journey. Look, man. You were smoking.
Starting point is 00:04:36 You were so high. Is it excuse me while I kiss this guy or excuse me while I kiss this guy? Who knows, man? You just said the same thing, bro. We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious artist, Kim Winder. A.K.A. the Red Dot Comic. Yeah, the Red Dot Comic. Let them know.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Let them know. Fantastic comics. Kim. Hi. Hi. It's great to have you back. You were about to say something, and then I interrupted you. Oh, well, I'm just very impressed by your singing abilities.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Both of you have grown. Yeah, we crushed it, right? Thank you. Have grown? Yeah. Well, you're on note now. Thank you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:13 I'm on some notes. Yeah. Some notes. Well, he has the same vocal coach. Or someone who worked with Gladys Knight is your vocal coach. Yeah. You've been putting in a lot of time. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Those vocal lessons. Uh-huh. Just drinking nothing but lemon and honey. Oh, to keep your vote chords going? Nice and rich, you know? Well, Kim, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. Jared Leto is older than Lev Parnas.
Starting point is 00:05:40 That's a thing that- We'll have to talk a lot about that. Yeah. I don't even- I don't know how that's possible, but it's the truth. So we're going to talk about that. It's the truth. We're going to talk about impeachment.
Starting point is 00:05:51 We're going to talk about Pete Buttigieg's bread scandal from the New York Times endorsement interview, which is old news, but also is just... I feel like he's now fading. And I feel like it's worth talking about why. What's going on with that man? And also, what's going on with that man, Rudy Giuliani? He was on Fox and Friends.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Rudy can't stop. The Saints, the NFL team, was conspiring with the Catholic Church somehow. They call it consulting. Consulting. To hide priest abuse. Isn't that conspiring at that point? When you're hiding sexual abuse. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Yeah, it's dark either way. We're going to talk about the parking lot pooper. Brought to justice. Boom. You'll love to see it. One of the most satisfying mugshots slash upsetting, but, you know, depending on how you feel about the parking lot poop. Yeah, and your right to defecate on someone's property. He was just trying to fertilize, bring out, like, the weeds.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Excuse me. Don't be so gender normative. I'm sorry. Oh. Oh. Then to hell with her. Oh, that makes it worse. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Yeah, the mugshot. It looks like someone who knows they've been caught pooping a bunch. Yeah. Poop-based crimes are embarrassing, it looks like. Just shitty, really. Hey. Best of friends. We're going to look ahead at some of the pop culture from 2020.
Starting point is 00:07:23 All of that and more. But first, Kim, we'd like to ask our guest, what's something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Recently, passports. Passports. Yes. Trolling the country? That's the plan.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Get some fakes? Yeah. Tax evasion. Hey, the American way. Hey, artists got to eat. Yeah. But so I changed my name back to my maiden name, Winder, because, you know, yay divorce. Oh, you were divorced?
Starting point is 00:07:51 You got divorced? Is that recent? Sorry, Jack. Sorry. Went down the wrong path. Didn't mean to disappoint you. I just didn't know we had. I'm on my second marriage.
Starting point is 00:08:00 I got married at 19. Oh, okay. First time around. So it's, you know. Wait, which divorce is this? Are you currently married? Yes, I'm married at 19. Oh, okay. First time around. So it's, you know. Wait, which divorce is this? Are you currently married? Yes, I'm married. Happily?
Starting point is 00:08:09 That's the divorce. No, no, I'm not. No, that's not the. Oh, you got your first one finalized. Okay, so. I'm so, I'm sorry. Look, I'm like Oprah. I got to dig in.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Yeah, it was a time. But anyways, so when I got my first passport, it was under my old married name so going back to winder has been just a huge ass process um and so we plan on going to mexico in the next few months and i just need to get my name back so i just want my name i just want my name that's what you should say in the court just get there like i just want my name back. That's what you should say in the court. Just get there and be like, I just want my name back. Yeah. Yeah. Well.
Starting point is 00:08:46 I think that's how you apply for it, right? Pretty much. After like the passport photo at CVS, you just start crying. Yeah. Like everyone else at CVS. Exactly. To fit in at first. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:58 But then, yeah. Where are you going to Mexico? I have no idea. Hey. We're just going to check out some tequila distilleries. Oh, wow. You all like tequila? Mezcal? I like no idea. We're just going to check out some tequila distilleries. Oh, wow. Y'all like tequila, mezcal? I like mezcal.
Starting point is 00:09:09 I love mezcal. It's nice and it's smoky and it just kind of hangs out and has a mellow vibe. But my hubs is in the cocktail industry. Got it. This is a quote unquote work trip that i am just going to observe but i had no idea how to renew my passport online because it's so like bureaucratic and they don't want you to fuck up but then you just mail it and you just wait right six to eight weeks and hope for the best yeah yeah i i just found myself checking again and again and again or i had to renew my recently i panicked had to go to
Starting point is 00:09:42 the federal building last minute oh really and And I waited in a line that stretched the length of Westwood. I would rather do that than hope for the best at my post office. But it's just a huge-ass drive for me, personally. Right. I get that. But I find it ironic that they want it to the T, but then you just have to sit and wait. Right. And hope to God.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Yeah, we'll get to it. Don't worry. Six, eight weeks. You're good. Yeah. Six to eight weeks. You're good. Yeah. Changing your name is very difficult. It's a whole process that requires many, many boxes checked. And yeah, you'd think they'd have it down because a lot of people change their name
Starting point is 00:10:18 after marriage, change their name back. But it is not an easy process. Yeah. I know. Raphael, or I mean Jack, when you changed your name. Jack. Yeah, I'm sorry. Jack.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Jack O'Brien, right? So stupid. Kim, what is something you think is overrated? Overrated? Okay, so asking around, I was told it was too edgy to say organized religion, so I'm going to go with Instapots. That's too edgy? It's too edgy
Starting point is 00:10:52 apparently. What year is this? 1960? First she talks about divorce, now she doubts my organized religion? Come on! I'm going to Mexico. I'm just burning all the bridges now. So you said Instapots are overrated. Oh, definitely. Come on! I'm going to Mexico. I'm just burning all the bridges now. Burning all the bridges behind you.
Starting point is 00:11:07 So you said Instapots are overrated. Oh, definitely. Why is that? Well, they're great. You can cook a full chicken in like 45 minutes, but it tastes like boiled chicken. There's none of that slow cooker flavor that they advertise. Oh, okay. So you're saying versus a slow-cooked chicken versus... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Are we narrowly just looking at chickens and Instapots? No, everything. Wow. It's all just... You're dumping it in there, you're pressurizing it, and then you're eating it 20 minutes later. Yay. But it's... I'd rather take the time and cook or starve.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Wow. Old school. Yeah. Damn. Take the time and cook or starve. What do you like to cook in a slow cooker normally? Well, I actually just got a sous vide. Oh, pardon us, chef Boyar Winder.
Starting point is 00:11:53 But right now I've been playing with an artichoke recipe, but you have to cook it for at least like four to five hours. In an Instapot? Not in the Instapot, in the sous vide. Oh, okay. I was going to say. Oh, a sous vide artichoke, damn. Yeah, no, it's really, really good
Starting point is 00:12:09 with like a lemon garlic butter sauce and then pair it with duck breast, boom. Wow. Now I know what a sous vide is, but for the listeners, what is a sous vide? Oh, a sous vide basically looks like a vibrator wand that you put in a pot with water and then you just let it be temperature controlled to cook for five to six hours or whatever yeah you just circulate
Starting point is 00:12:34 the water to specific temperature to get your meats to that without any moisture loss yeah keeps it incredibly tender and then you can like searar it and a lot of sauces you can make in there. I feel like it's always on sale on the internet. Like people were pushing sous vide like immersion shits, immersion wands. So I feel like every week it's like, dude, the fucking killer sous vide thing. It's half off right now. To be totally honest, I had no idea what it was until Starbucks got their like little. Sous vide egg bites?
Starting point is 00:13:06 Oh my God, yes. Yep, shout out to the until Starbucks got their little... Sous vide egg bites? Oh my god. Yes. Yep. Shout out to the Greer bacon. Sous vide egg bites. Oh, Jack. What? I mean... Can I just leave? No, no, no. Now you have a loving household where people probably make food in the house where I'm wandering half hung over like, is there eggs here?
Starting point is 00:13:22 They're great hangover food. Door to door. On the go. Sous vide egg bites. Hello. Are there eggs here? They're great hangover food. Door to door. On the go. Sweet egg. Hello. Are there eggs here? Is that fucking guy again? Are there eggs here? Is that guy asking for eggs again?
Starting point is 00:13:32 Go to fucking Starbucks. Why? They never had eggs. Yeah, they have delicious. Are they scrambled eggs? Kind of. Okay. Like the consistency, but like a lot smoother.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Okay. Creamy. And then they have gruyere cheese and bacon. I actually had it on the way here. Boom. Really? Yes. Look at you.
Starting point is 00:13:50 I am. What is something you think is underrated? Bulldog muzzles. Now, bear with me. I took a- Like a muzzle for a bulldog? Yeah. So I have two dogs.
Starting point is 00:14:01 I have a Yorkie and a bulldog. Okay. And our bulldog, Lucy, has severe anxiety. Like she meets new animals and she just, she freaks out. And we're getting her trained and doing personal things. But when we visited my family in Nevada, they have horses, goats, dogs, everything. So we wanted her to have like chewies. And then we got her a muzzle just in case because she's just never been around those animals.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Gotcha. So when I Googled the picture for bulldog muzzles, it's not normal muzzle like you would put on a dog with a longer snout. Right, right, right. They're these masks. It looks like a catcher's mask. Oh, that's what that is. I always thought that was a joke. They look like little Hannibal Lecter masks.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Oh, shit. I love it. Yeah, whenever I saw photos of that, they're like, look at this Bane dog. And I'm like, that's fucking tight. Whoever made that for their dog. And I'm like, right, that makes sense. They're like nearly snoutless. Yeah, because I made the mistake of getting a normal training muzzle and it wouldn't stay
Starting point is 00:15:00 on her face. Right, right. Because it's so smushed. But we got her the mesh one, and already with the breathing problems and her just shaking, it's terrible, but it's also adorable. Right, yeah, they're really cute. It's terrible for her, but I love it.
Starting point is 00:15:15 There's also the catcher's mask one, or umpire. That one looks more like the Bane one. Right. And I didn't like those because it just looks cool. I think they're cool. It was born in the darkness. Like, I would rather wear that, but I'm also not trying to look adorable
Starting point is 00:15:29 and sit on people's laps, so... That's true. Yeah. There's that man again trying to sit on my lap. I'm not doing that right now, I should say. Give me a couple hours. What is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false?
Starting point is 00:15:45 So, the serpent in the story with Adam and Eve is never actually the devil in the Bible. It's only in Paradise Lost as a plot device. And so most people just assume it's Satan as the serpent. But in reality, it could be a Voldemort snake. Oh, man. No, that's interesting. Wait, it's this, who's the devil? MTV?
Starting point is 00:16:19 The devil was inside you all along. Oh, my God. So in the Bible, there is a serpent that arrives in the Garden of Eden. Yes, that tempts Eve to eat the apple. Right, because women are responsible for everything bad. Yes, right. And God kicks them out because God likes androids. That's a really bad joke.
Starting point is 00:16:41 But in Paradise Lost, John Milton uses that opportunity to embody Satan. Right. So it's like a, one of the great characters in literature is like this Satan who's like conflicted and he's like, I'm evil, but it really, uh,
Starting point is 00:16:59 sort of pre or sort of predicts like the thing that happens with movies where like the bad guy is more interesting than the good guy. Right. Right. Yeah. Like Satan in paradise loss is so much more interesting than like anything else going on. Then the fallen angel.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Yeah. Yeah. It really is. What, I mean, is there like a VH one behind the Bible about the snake? Who's like smoking a cigarette? Like,
Starting point is 00:17:24 man, you know, then the fucking Paradise Lost made me the fucking devil man just promoting fruits and vegetables I do want so are there alternate interpretations like are they just like no it's just a straight up snake hey so don't fuck with snakes man
Starting point is 00:17:38 that's the point of that that was the whole point of that story I don't know where the fuck y'all got this other shit it was an anti-snake story. Right. I was just trying to tell y'all not to start with snakes. Y'all are just reading way too deep into this shit. And now look where we are with the coronavirus.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Right. Which has been, I think, actually debunked. We were talking about that. I was wrong. Really? Yeah, there was a thing. We were talking about it yesterday that it came from snakes, but there's a couple, there's many scientists who are a bit dub a bit dubious who are like, I don't know about this.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Because I think it was one report had that. And these days, people who are quote unquote journalists, like us, just regurgitate everybody. I'm still sticking with my gut on this one, man. That shit came from snakes. All right. Based on the Bible, man? Yeah, based on the Bible. Hey, based on the Bible. I snakes. All right. Based on the Bible, man? Yeah, based on the Bible. Hey, based on the Bible.
Starting point is 00:18:26 I'm looking right here. Based on what my Bible tells me. I mean, the Garden of Eden, in a way, was like a market. Right. You know what I mean? People go for food. Just everything. Like this place.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Okay, you know? Yeah. Also, that shit is very frightening, though, when you read all the stories about a lot of the Chinese New Year celebrations being canceled to avoid a bunch of people getting – The movie theaters are all shut down. Yeah, movie theaters are shutting down. They're locking down cities that are – But the World Health Organization is like, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:18:52 It's all good. It's all good. It's all good. Don't worry. And they're locking down cities that are as large as Los Angeles in terms of population, but that I've never heard of. Right. Because China is just –
Starting point is 00:19:03 China is so big. So big. So populous. Anyways, we're going to get into all of that later. Actually, I don't know that we're talking about that today. Yeah, no more snake talk. I'm getting rid of that. No more snake talk.
Starting point is 00:19:14 I don't like snakes, man. But first, we have more important things to talk about. A Twitter user, Decoherence Wave, fucking metal name, tweeted that Jared Leto is older than Lev Parnas. That is something else. Yeah. Where do I go? I mean, I look at these two photos.
Starting point is 00:19:42 What is going on? It makes me more wonder what's going on with Jared Leto. I mean, Lev Parnas, I think it's one of those things where Lev Parnas looks older for his age. And Jared Leto is just shit. Made a deal with a snake in a garden. Jared Leto really needs to fix his foundation. Oh, is he not blending well enough? No, it's totally off skin tone.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Oh, yeah, well. He looks a little like an over Photoshopped. Like he's got that, I don't know if it's plastic surgery, but he's got that face that looks like it's been Photoshopped a couple too many times. And possibly beautiful. Yeah. Yeah, just face-tuned. Lev Parnas just is yet another testament to what the corroding,
Starting point is 00:20:21 corrupting influence of this administration does to a soul and how that can bleed out under the surface. Because that dude is like 47, I think. Oh, boy. He looks. And it doesn't even look like he drinks. You know how they get the red nose, the blush? Right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:38 I think he said he doesn't drink, right, in an interview? I don't know. Or maybe I'm mistaking that. But also Alfonso Ribeiro, Carlton from The Fresh Prince, also older than Lev Parnas. Yeah. Lev Parnas is a young buck. I was also looking for other examples of this. Samuel L. Jackson is two years older than Karl Rove, which was surprising to me.
Starting point is 00:20:59 That's not fair comparing white people who have done evil to wealthy black celebrities who not only have a good genetics going for them but also probably live less stressful because they're not you know profiting off of world destruction but yeah i i don't know left harness man selling your soul doesn't get you too far no you wear you you really wear it on your face yeah i mean unless but hey unless jared leto also sold his soul and he's wearing it on his face in a different way. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Depends on who you sold your soul to and what the transaction was for. It's not so surprising to me that Jared Leto looks good for his age because his job is looking good for his age. Right. So like he has a nutritionist. He has, you know, a probably spends a lot of, has a lot of downtime in between acting gigs. You think he just goes into like a cryo sleep? Probably.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Like unless he's needed. He like tells his agent, he's like, I have to go into suspended animation to stop the aging process. And please awake me when there's another project. Right. He doesn't eat. It's just through photosynthesis. Oh, yes. project right he doesn't eat it's just through photosynthesis oh yes but yeah with lev parnas like that if he doesn't drink which i know i know he's talked about high like that guy john hyde was
Starting point is 00:22:13 it being like drunk all the time so he's like robert hyde yeah robert hyde yeah uh other male name uh hyde uh he he talked about him being drunk all the time. I don't know if that means that he's never drunk. No, I think he does. I don't know why I thought, I think maybe I was thinking he didn't drink because he was being so like adamant about how drunk Robert Hyde was. He's like, yeah, cause that guy gets so fucked up. He says shit like, should we do some harm to this state official?
Starting point is 00:22:43 Right. Cause if he doesn't drink, I just want to see what that dude looks like if he did drink. Like, how hard his face would, how hard living his face would look at this point. Like, how do you live with yourself? Like, I have a bad day at work. I go home. There goes a bottle of champagne. Just, I don't have the weight of the threat of killing
Starting point is 00:23:08 someone or right harming someone and yet ruining the country in a way though they're just like yucking it up though like when you look at the text like they're loving it yeah so in a way i don't know if they're living their best life too right just getting off on the fact that they get to be bad guys yeah or or in what i think in the narrative of their stories, they are the good guys. And like the Marie Yovanovitches of the world are the bad people because they dare to speak ill of Donald Dump. Donald Dump. Yeah. I like that.
Starting point is 00:23:36 I mean, I'm trying to think like Hitler was 56 when he died. So, I mean, he looked, didn't look particularly old. He was also on a lot of amphetamines and shit. So, I'm just wondering if pure evil, like, corrodes a soul, like,
Starting point is 00:23:52 in a noticeable way. Hmm. That would be. We're thinking about it. But I mean, Donald Trump, like, if that was the case,
Starting point is 00:23:59 Donald Trump should have been withered off the face of the earth a long time ago. Yeah. But I mean, and also, then, like, people like Abraham Lincoln shouldn't have aged so severely. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Yeah. It's all about stress, honestly, I think, at the face of the earth a long time ago. Yeah, but I mean, also, people like Abraham Lincoln shouldn't have aged so severely when he was president. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:24:07 It's all about stress, honestly, I think, at the end of the day. I think the idea that aging is a meritocracy probably not valid. It probably leads to some super problematic conclusions if you follow that chain of logic too long. But left-partness looks like shit is the upshot. And we're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back.
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Starting point is 00:27:26 a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks Everywhere starting September 25th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. Adam Schiff gave a pretty effective speech to close Thursday's session that's getting passed around on Twitter, got passed around on Twitter at the end of last week. got passed around on Twitter at the end of last week.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Basically, the summary is, if what is right and wrong doesn't matter, we're lost. Right, and it doesn't matter what was in the Constitution if the people who are there to enforce it or make sense of it don't give a fuck and are actively just burying their heads in the sand because they don't want to face an uncomfortable truth. It was one of those moments where I was like, man, this is really great. And then another part just became so sort of, I don't know, disheartened by the idea that I'm like, none of these motherfuckers care. They're fucking fidget spinning and doing crossword puzzles and shit.
Starting point is 00:28:40 And like Lindsey Graham, you know, at one point Schiff played a video of Lindsey Graham. Like basically showing like, look how contradictory this asshole was. Remember back when Clinton was being impeached? She had all this shit to say. Cut to today. Lindsey Graham walked out so he didn't have to be a part of it, didn't have to see anything of it. And he left like right before.
Starting point is 00:28:57 And a lot of people are saying the senators all get sort of a document that says all of the things that are going to be presented. So he must have knew his time was about to show up. He's like, I'm going to go to the hallway to just take a real long pee. Yeah. Just my golf swing. Yeah. And it was just like, I mean, look, I have a feeling there definitely are some senators
Starting point is 00:29:15 there. I for sure know there are senators who do not like Donald Trump, but it's the same thing. They're just petrified of what he can do to get his base against them. Yeah, we're going to get into the threats in a second. Right. So that gets them in line. But I think at another point there is a bit of humanity because what he was saying was sort of like, yo, if you guys are serious about being like part of this, quote unquote, representative democracy, like then you need to really take what we're saying here seriously. This person who's in the White House does not give a fuck about the country. It's everything's about himself.
Starting point is 00:29:50 But at the end of the day, I don't know. I mean, maybe there'll be some votes for witnesses, but I would be surprised if there were 67 for removal. Yeah. I think with the speech, of course, it wasn't going to change anyone's mind in that room. I think we're pretty certain that's just not going to happen. But it was really for the American people because Trump's base is so pro-America. And even though it's coming from the enemy, like reminding them, we did not come all this way for nothing, guys.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Remember this election time. So if anything, it's just a preface to, to guys we all know what's going to happen here nothing's going to happen but we still have a chance in november please remember all these assholes here yeah they're right i mean he also got into that i mean that was specifically what he said he was like do you have any doubt that if China, you know, hacks the election and offers to help him get elected, that he will trade America's best interests, like the American people's best interest for his own personal interest? And like the answer is, of course, no. Of course, there's no doubt in anyone's mind. And you're at the wheel and you're still in that rock? Right.
Starting point is 00:31:07 I mean, you know, it also shows you just how far gone the Republicans are. Like there's really, I mean, if they can sit there, even there are pundits on the right, even on Fox who are saying, I can't see a dimension where none of this evidence proves the president innocent. Like if anything, I've only seen everything's been uncontradicted. It's yeah. I don't know what that'll mean to some voters. You'd think maybe there's one or two people who are kind of like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:31:32 that's kind of fucking weird, but it seems like, like you're saying most people sort of already have their minds made up. Yeah. Simon, rich is dead. Frank rich, the New York times columnist wrote a thing thing about what he was trying to figure out.
Starting point is 00:31:45 What does the future look like long term for Trump's co-conspirators and the entire Republican Party? And just looking back at Nixon's White House and the people who conspired with him. And it was not great for them after Watergate. But he was also looking back to Nazi Germany and some of the people who conspired there. And yeah, it's an interesting look at that. I think it was in The Atlantic or New York Magazine. Yeah. So speaking of sort of what these Republicans are thinking, there was a report from CBS News that senators were warned that if they break from Trump over impeachment, they will find their head on a pike.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Game of Thrones. Yeah. You get it. Yep. Who's going to be Ned Stark, huh? Right. Let's get a couple of Neds up there. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:32:36 Braveheart. Come out of line, you know? Is Sean Bean in politics? Oh, he should be. No, he shouldn't. Not for his sake. Yeah. sake yeah yeah i mean it's definitely showing wow okay that's you know if this were a trial that would be more witness intimate or jury intimidation yeah that's jury tampering straight up tampering what so is it's not though right like
Starting point is 00:32:58 they can't they can't be like that's jury tampering no because if they were treated like a real jury they'd be like uh ron johnson get your ass out of here right half these people they'd be like what like mitch mcconnell said i will not be an impartial juror yeah get that would immediately if this was jury duty be like yeah get that dude out of here right i don't want him on the jury right yeah i mean right the so the judge in a normal case would declare mistrial but the judge here is roberts well he doesn't have much power right he could just be like hey guys start being nice to each other i mean he's just more like serious business it's more ceremonial he's like okay the majority leader is recognized and then i will sit back and then because you know the senate could vote like even
Starting point is 00:33:40 within the senate take a vote on like you know being like hey why don't you fall back chief justice right like how are they not able to have their phones they're not supposed to leave the even within the Senate take a vote on like, you know, being like, hey, why don't you fall back, Chief Justice? Right. Like, how are they not able to have their phones? They're not supposed to leave the room. And yet they still are. They have crossword puzzles. Yeah. Apple watches. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Mad libs to the. A lot of milk. A lot of cookies. Mad libs. It would be amazing if they were doing mad libs. Right. Yeah. I mean, it's feasible based on how most, like, it's interesting.
Starting point is 00:34:08 I was always trying to read about what the observations were of people who saw a lot of their senators. For the most part, people were kind of attentive. But then you have those people who were doing everything they could to just be, like, you know. Like, fuck you without saying it. Yeah. Or just, like, you know, bailing to go, like go leave the chamber and hang out in the hall for a little bit. Right before they started, the Republicans had a big lunch with fried chicken and burgers and hot dogs and ice cream sundaes. And then they handed out fidget spinners.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Be like, here you go. Don't pay attention. Just fucking fuck around. Be a juror. Now, okay, to be devil's advocate, these To be snake's advocate. To be snake's advocate, fidget spinners
Starting point is 00:34:52 help me concentrate. I can understand both sides of it. Could you imagine? That's the secret. They're like, we've got 67 votes to remove the president. Those fidget spinners, they were fucking They woke the fuck up. In my mind, it's like mesmerism.
Starting point is 00:35:07 What is the... Mesmerism? Yeah, like the fidget spinner they're looking at. Their eyes have little swirls on them. Was it Susan Collins who was like, yeah, I mean, I'm locked in. I've got like 14 pages of notes. It was either her or Lisa Murkowski.
Starting point is 00:35:23 I mean, either one. Again, I expect some of those senators to be like, yeah, we should have witnesses. You get the witnesses, it's going to be damning testimony, and then they go, yeah, we should acquit them. Yeah. No, that's for sure. I tried, though.
Starting point is 00:35:34 I tried. I tried, and that's what they'll say. But the other thing, even though that's his stick he's beating people to get in line with, the other thing he can lure them with is all the fundraising cash, too, where he can be like, now, if you stay in line, I can bribe you. Yeah. So fucking with the jury either way.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Or if not bribing, what dirt do they have on them? I mean, who knows? That's what's like so alarming, too, that there are few people who are willing to take their duty seriously to the point where it's like suspicious. But also the way a lot of people who work with Trump compare the environment of being around him is like a cult. So I don't know if it's half like, wow, we're just sort of like so caught up in this like toxic, intoxicating environment
Starting point is 00:36:15 of being near power. Or if there are some people who are like, I can't do the right thing. Right. So we talked earlier about how Lev Parnas speculating on what his internal life was like. And Miles, you were saying that like when you look at the text messages, I can't do the right thing. Right. So we talked earlier about how Lev Parnas, speculating on what his internal life was like, and Miles, you were saying that when you look at the text messages,
Starting point is 00:36:32 it looks like they're all buddy, buddy, buddy. But there's a recording that came out of, that I think it's from a year ago, but it's Trump talking to Parnas and then a bunch of other people who they haven't quite identified. And I think Igor Fruman, the other dude who was palling around with Lev Parnas. Yeah. And Trump basically said, no, specifically says about Marie Yovanovitch, get rid of her.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Get her out tomorrow. I don't care. Get her out tomorrow. Take her out. Okay? Do it. Do it. Take her out is very suggestive language. Take her out to Okay. Do it. Do it. Take her out is very suggestive language.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Take her out to Olive Garden. Right. That's. Oh, no. Unlimited breadsticks. Who was. I forget. One senator was like, oh, that's just New York talk.
Starting point is 00:37:17 That's just New York talk. So dismissive. Yeah. Like when they're like, oh, this is pretty fucking alarming considering everything we've seen around Maria Ivanovich. The idea that she had to be whisked away because they're like, your safety might be in jeopardy. And then I'd be like, yeah, it's just they just talk differently. You know, they're like being like, yeah, fire her. Take her out.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Yeah. Take her out and get rid of her. And the guy's name is Igor. Igor. Yeah. I mean, again, more damning information. It would be great if there could be new evidence submitted, but the tired ass line from all these senators,
Starting point is 00:37:52 when they come out, when they're trying to spin shit for Fox news, like, you know, I was in there for 13 hours and it's, it's the same thing. Yeah. They're saying the same thing.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Right. And then, you know, most people are pointing out. It's like, yeah, you also voted to not hear anything new right you you purposefully obstructed or blocked the any kind of uh possibility of new evidence or new stories right new fun stories to hear yeah so the president's
Starting point is 00:38:17 defense team started uh this past weekend making their case and the president was pissed yeah going into the weekend realizing it's like oh fuck okay so the last day for the democrats to present their uh case is friday yeah and then the next three days is the the republic or the white house council and it's going to be on a saturday and because donald trump knows tv and is so horny for ratings right he note saturday tv is a is just an act of aggression against somebody right like if if you have a new show and they're like yeah it's gonna be on saturdays that's the network being like yeah fuck you we don't think this is gonna do anything right it's a fucking
Starting point is 00:38:53 graveyard yeah and i think for him to know that it's got him really pissed because adam shift's been getting like the prime time stuff and now he's tweeting out after having been treated unbelievably unfairly in the house and then having to endure hour after hour of lies, fraud and deception by shifty shift.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Crying Chuck Schumer and their crew. Looks like my lawyers will be forced to start on Saturday, which is called Death Valley in TV. They got shit to do.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Like the honey do list. Everyone has to go build their own mini walls in their backyard people gotta go golf like yeah and just tough shit honey yeah yeah and i think again i from at this point we haven't we don't know exactly what the defense is but uh everyone was saying it's like it's only gonna be about two hours right yeah well maybe that's the thing too is their defense is so fucking weak.
Starting point is 00:39:47 We don't want anyone to really listen. Well, yeah, I think this is how the timing worked out, because had it been the two days, it may have started today. If they had stuck to the original schedule where they're like, yeah, 12 hours blazing speed over two days. But since they did over three days, I think that gave the, you know, know that the card that's just how the cards fell now was that because mcconnell waited until midnight to submit the rules well no he got pressure within his party uh what some would have you believe like from susan collins and others who are saying you should allow them to a enter the evidence that was from the house investigation into this trial if it's a trial yeah and also, at the very least, give them, don't make us do 1 p.m. to 1 a.m. for two days. Like, that's just not going to work out.
Starting point is 00:40:32 And then he caved on that. It all depends on, I mean, I don't know what the reason is, whether that was to provide cover again, because this is a balancing act for the Senate of trying to be like, we got to protect the president, but not look so fucked up that the vulnerable senators just get blown out and then completely fuck with majorities. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:40:51 I mean, it seems like right now the priority is absolutely just to protect the president. Yeah, and just get it over with. Yeah. Well, Rudy, speaking of protecting the president, the president's main man, Rudy Giulianiiani oh my god went on fox and friends and was on one yo he again i don't know why fox even invites him back the last few times they've been like please stop talking right you're making it hot for everyone um you know he is at the center of this entire scandal but he's still going on TV saying shit like on my podcast.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Like I'm going on a podcast to release damning evidence against the Bidens of what was going on in Ukraine. And, you know, saying the same old conspiracy shit that was, you know, basically the intelligence community was like, this is Russian propaganda you're talking about. Yeah. But you're taking that as reality. Oh, and I mean, it was a very uncomfortable segment for all the hosts. Like they repeatedly were trying to just intervene and interject. Like,
Starting point is 00:41:52 okay, let's stop talking. This first clip is as him going off the rails about this dude getting poisoned. I don't even know. Like, and then the, the hosts are like trying to get him to stop talking. Just listen to this one. September of last year, Shogun was taken to the hospital with mercury poisoning.
Starting point is 00:42:12 All right, so let me just get a word in. You know this happens in Ukraine and Russia. The method of choice is poisoning. Okay. Okay. Okay. Thank you. And he's going because Victor Shogun is one of the prosecutors from Ukraine who's also helping him out. And then towards the end of it, they're trying to literally be like, OK, that's it. End of your appearance. And he cannot stop talking. He cannot stop. Won't stop telling us not to be corrupt. You know how that hurts the United States. I have a feeling you could go clear till noon when your podcast starts give it up for rudy that's the real case that's only the tip of the iceberg there are other people involved oh my there's a lot more
Starting point is 00:43:02 money involved they're clapping him off There was a pattern of corruption there. The president wants you to continue this? The president wants to get you to continue this investigation? Would you like me to give it up? Would you like me to just say, okay, Biden can keep his $8 million that he got in bribes. He can keep all the bribes that they got in bribes. Should I give it up, Brian?
Starting point is 00:43:22 I'll just leave. I'll just leave. Okay. All right. I'll just give it up. Okay. All right. I'm attacking me. There are a bunch of phonies. I did my own. Okay. You can just.
Starting point is 00:43:31 It was like one of the. They were. It was. I mean, if you can find the clips, please watch them. That is Fox and Friends. They're in the tank for him and his side. And they just. And they're still like.
Starting point is 00:43:42 They even know. That's what you can tell. They know that it looks so fucking bad yeah and that's when that's what's so disingenuous about like all the supporters is like there are moments when you can tell you wouldn't be behaving like that as a host unless you knew what you're saying is like really terrible for the case they're trying to make you should stop talking because it's objectively clear, even if the, yeah, someone groaned. Yeah. Unless someone was like, oh, God. Please, guy. Stop.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Every time you say something, it's always something that ends up being a terrible headline. Right. I was wondering how the point that Adam Schiff was making in his closing argument last Thursday would hit the brain of somebody who is still supporting Trump because it's just like kind of an airtight case. It's like, you know, he's going to cheat if he has the opportunity. But like that grown,
Starting point is 00:44:32 I think is instructive that they're like, it's like you're watching a team that you like and they just keep fucking up. And you're just like, Oh, shut up. Yeah. Get them off. Get that pitcher out of here.
Starting point is 00:44:44 And like the, you know, a lot of polls of people, both Republicans and independents, are like, we wish he would tweet less. Oh, yeah. Shut the fuck up. Because it's always something, I'm sure, when they have co-workers who are not conservatives, go, what do you think of that one?
Starting point is 00:45:00 Yeah, right. And honestly, if you have half a brain, you're like, yeah, I know, dude. Just shut the fuck up. Right. Just let me be racist. Yes. Why didn't they just turn off his mic and be like, Oh no,
Starting point is 00:45:10 we're, we're having malfunctions or something like that. Like at that point, just throw water on his mic pack. Oh my God. Oh, accidentally spill coffee all over him. I do wonder if he's,
Starting point is 00:45:22 because people have talked about him, uh, showing up to appearances like that drunk. I do wonder if he's because people have talked about him showing up to appearances like that drunk. I do wonder if he is drunk at that and that's part of the reason that there's like oh my God dude. I don't know what it is though too. Like clearly like there's
Starting point is 00:45:36 some kind of mandate to if Rudy says he wants to come on let him come on because he's so like lockstep with the president. And then but then they always are like regretting it. Or like you can always see how uncomfortable the anchors are, the presenters are, the hosts. We completely lose control.
Starting point is 00:45:53 And he doesn't speak in like quippy sound bites. He just speaks in long run. You know, he was poison. You know what I mean? Okay, Rudy, please. And I don't know, you know. Right. I mean, who was Baby Yoda? Is that Yoda? Is that Yoda and Yachty's Okay, Rudy, please. And I don't know, you know? Right. I mean, who was Baby Yoda?
Starting point is 00:46:05 Is that Yoda? Is that Yoda and Yachty's baby? Little Yachty? I don't know. But yeah. I mean, it's like talking to any drunk person or, you know, person whose neurological condition has been rendered such that they seem to be drunk all the time. And it's like, yeah, you just can't get them to stop talking.
Starting point is 00:46:25 And they're going in like 20 different directions. All right, Jack, calm down. Oh, boy. Here we go. It's just like, I mean, you know how it is, right? Yeah, I know. Victor Shulkin got poisoned, dude, because it's Ukraine. Yeah, I get it, man.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Those sound waves in Cuba. I know. What was it, a ray gun? Oh, it's been a while since we checked back in, guys. It's been a while. It's been a while. All right, we're going. It's been a while. It's been a while. All right, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back.
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Starting point is 00:49:46 into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks Everywhere starting September 25th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And there's been some new polling on FiveThirtyEight that is not really very conclusive about the primary.
Starting point is 00:50:23 But they are starting to reflect post the most recent Democratic debate. And it seems somewhat inconclusive other than that Bernie's chances have increased from 20% to 25%. They're saying Biden stayed at 40 and everybody else I think is moving in the wrong direction for them. I do want to talk about Pete Buttigieg, though, because there was a big sort of social media story. I don't know how much it mattered, but the New York Times endorsement that happened last week, or I don't know how long ago that was, actually,
Starting point is 00:51:03 but they endorsed Elizabeth Warren and Amy Klobuchar. People with contrasting political views. Yeah. It just proves that they're too pussy to actually choose a side. Yeah. And also, I think if you're like a New York Times apologist, you're like, it actually underscores how divided the Democratic Party is right now. And they're sort of like, look, if you're more progressive, then yes, I think Warren is probably the pick for you.
Starting point is 00:51:32 And if you're more of a centrist, like scared person who isn't interested in like all people benefiting from whatever the policies are of the next president, then Amy Klobuchar is your person. But who likes sick jokes? If you like sick jokes. Dude, we'll get to those later because my goodness. Amy Klobuchar is your person. But who likes sick jokes? If you like sick jokes- Dude, we'll get to those later because my goodness. Amy Klobuchar has jokes. But one part of the process of the New York Times announcing who they were endorsing was releasing these interviews where the editorial board interviewed each of the candidates. And people who judge had not a great performance, candidates and people to judge had not a great performance specifically when it came to uh this question about bread uh so somebody oh from his time at mckinsey from his time at mckinsey
Starting point is 00:52:12 somebody asked him uh if i can put this question a slightly different way you've been on the front lines of corporate downsizing you've been on the front lines of corporate price fixing. Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's, that's, I'm sorry. That's the truth. You've been on the front of our misadventures in foreign policy. You've had direct experience in many of the things that make a lot of young people very angry about the way that this country is operating right now. You don't seem to embody that anger. So the proposition that I've been on front lines with corporate price fixing is bullshit. Just to get that out of the way. Whoa, Pete.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Someone's cooking with spices. You worked for a company that was fixing bread prices. No. I worked for a consulting company that had a client that may have been involved in fixing or was apparently in a scandal. I was not aware of the Canadian bread pricing scandal
Starting point is 00:53:04 until last night. So this all goes back to Pete's... I mean, he just seemed defensive, right? I mean, the way you read it, yeah. I didn't actually see the clip, but I have a feeling he was like, no, I worked for a consulting company. He has this undercurrent
Starting point is 00:53:20 of anger that comes through sometimes in debates when he gets challenged. He smiles, but you can tell behind the eyes he's thinking of how he would kill that person maybe. Yeah, I think like most presidential candidates anyway. Yeah. Well, it's cracks
Starting point is 00:53:38 in the veneer. He's not the small town guy he wants to come off as. Like he has these very shady dealings that you shouldn't know about. How'd you know about that? Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Why? Yeah. So he worked at McKinsey, which is a consulting firm that has a bunch of, a long history of, you know, intervention in foreign markets. They are very closely linked to the CIA. Really good at downsizing when a company is like, how do I do this? They're like, all right, cut these people out,
Starting point is 00:54:12 and then you can keep your salary in the C-suite. Yeah. So one of the things that he was doing, just to get back to the Canadian bread price-fixing thing, is he was working for a consulting firm, working with McKinsey with Loblaws. Now, that is a real Canadian grocery store.
Starting point is 00:54:29 That's real? Yeah. Like Bob Loblaws Loblog? Yeah, from Arrested Development. Wow. They have a store called Loblaws. Or is it like, or is Canadian's I can't get a commercial? It's actually Loblaws?
Starting point is 00:54:41 Oh, that could be it. Lobless. Lobless. A? Huh? A. A? Yeah, a yeah they are gonna say that of course uh but he was working on price analysis right in the middle of the price fixing scheme uh and by his own description of his work with loblaws he was manipulating millions of data points gathering insights on which ideas were good or bad so it's very what like slowly increasing the price of bread so the the way they discovered that there was a price fixing scheme is that overall like because of inflation and just the general you
Starting point is 00:55:19 know way that uh things have gone over the past 20 years. Prices for most items increased by an average of 45% at Loblaws, and bread went up 99 or something. 96 or something. Yeah. But Buttigieg really leans on his McKinsey experience because he's young and doesn't have a ton of experience. So he leans on that as proof proof that he can run an economy essentially. Oh.
Starting point is 00:55:50 And so he's saying, I was learning about the nature of data by manipulating millions of data points. His campaign. I could weave stories about possible futures. Oh, cool. And gather insights on which ideas were good or bad. He also worked on Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan at the time that he was with McKinsey.
Starting point is 00:56:09 And while he was there and working for McKinsey and they were consulting with Blue Cross Blue Shield, they hiked their rates in January 2009 and fired nearly 10% of its workforce, leading to a lawsuit from Michigan Attorney General's office. How? But I mean, obviously, was he the lead consultant with them as a client? I mean, I think obviously this is all terrible shit, but I don't know if he's necessarily the supreme architect of being like, yes, Blue Cross, right to rates 10%, or by this much, cut 10%,
Starting point is 00:56:41 booty judge out, or whatever. But obviously he's part of the machine that enables this kind of shit. Absolutely. So I think the thing that makes people somewhat suspicious of his time with McKinsey is that he was very protective of it and was like, yeah, I signed NDAs. I can't talk about what I did there and what I was doing. Finally, after there was enough scrutiny, he was released from those NDAs by McKinsey, who was like, we didn't really care in the first place, man.
Starting point is 00:57:08 It's like people know about us, bro. Right. And then I think it's just a matter of him having a relatively limited data set of things he can point to. He's so young and the only big policy decisions he's had are with regards to the small town that he ran. And so he's pointing to his first job out of college type thing, being like, yeah, look, I was running the show there. And then now it's kind of coming back to bite him in the ass a little bit. Yeah. So he's had a wine scandal and a bread scandal.
Starting point is 00:57:43 Yeah. What is his connections to France and big cheese? Or fish, like Christ. Or the Catholic Church. That's how I would pivot. Right. He's clearly making bread appear. He's turning water to wine caves.
Starting point is 00:57:58 That's how he should and then just come out with his hands extended. Either way, I don't think that this is losing him the primary. I do think that based on who his supporters seem to be, that New York Times endorsement would have been big for him. Oh, he needed that. He needed that.
Starting point is 00:58:15 Yeah, yeah. I think people just knew, though, too, most millennials just are not interested in Buttigieg as a candidate. Right. So they're sort of like, eh. He doesn't seem sincere to me personally. Yeah, sure. He just looks like he wantsieg as a candidate. Right. So they're sort of like, eh. He doesn't seem sincere to me personally. Yeah, sure. Like, he just looks like he wants to be a politician.
Starting point is 00:58:30 He doesn't really have so many actual policies that he has put out on what he stands behind besides the big, vague pro-America. Yeah, and I remember when first hearing about him and reading all his stats on paper, I'm like, yo, this dude could do something. And then I'm like, wait a second. Oh, what are your stances? It's like meeting a Tinder date. Like you vibe so well on paper and you chat and then you meet him and it's just a fucking
Starting point is 00:58:57 letdown. Right. Like he smells. He's not very clean. I'm sorry. I ran out of deodorant. It's okay. We're both in committed relationships.
Starting point is 00:59:06 We ended up matching on Tinder. Okay. Full disclosure. It's strictly business. I was like, oh, God, Kim. Okay, this is embarrassing. I smell. But, yeah, I mean, he and Elizabeth Warren are going after the same sort of New York Times reading demographic.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Yeah. I don't know. We'll track his numbers going forward. It's not great. Not great, Pete. Let's talk about the Catholic Church while we're on the subject of bread and wine.
Starting point is 00:59:38 The Saints. This is just a headline that seems made up. It's dark. The AP, they've reported a lot on abuse in the Catholic Church. And they just have this report, too, about how the saints are trying to basically keep documents that were obtained through discovery. Because there are about two dozen men who are suing the Archdiocese of New Orleans for abuse, for sexual abuse when they were children. And some of these documents involve the saints.
Starting point is 01:00:14 And people are like, what the fuck? What's going on here exactly? And basically they were, the claim is that these documents show that they aided the Archdiocese of New Orleans in quote, its pattern and practice of concealing its crimes. So a lot of people are like, these are really damning emails because the owner of the Saints, before he passed away, and his wife, they're devout Catholics. I think the archbishop walked with her at her husband's funeral.
Starting point is 01:00:42 And she gives millions of dollars to like catholic causes in the area um and the archbishop is like always a regular as like her guest at games and the saints attorneys are like look there's no need for these uh you know there's like they're absolutely not the team had like nothing to do with helping the church cover up crimes they said it's outrageous they also said these emails uh were like intended to be private and not quote fodder for the public but when you're talking about an organization where money is flowing in and out of there from the people like locally and even subs like there's they're getting subsidies and things like this they're like yeah well hold on we need to look into this yeah and it's you know there is but then they start showing you see there
Starting point is 01:01:23 are little bits of evidence that are out there that shows that is not a good sign for like, you know, the saints and their participation in this. So they just suck all around. Yeah. I mean, apparently what they were saying is like, you know, the attorneys for the saints said that they did help the archdiocese when they were like publishing a credibly accused clergy list. But said there's like, no, that was like, cause we're trying to disclose stuff. We're not trying to hide nothing. We were helping them. But someone from the team was asking a spokeswoman from the archdiocese, whether there might be quote a benefit to saying that we support a victim's right to pursue a
Starting point is 01:01:59 remedy through the courts. I don't think we want to say we quote support victims going to courts, but we certainly encourage them to come forward. And a lot of this... So it's just like using their marketing and like PR resources to help them. I don't think they were being like, yeah, we'll
Starting point is 01:02:17 shift this person into like a you know, like a ticket taker position or something like that. I think they're just sort of like, hey, you got any help? I mean, this is why we're still trying to see what exactly is coming out of this. But yeah, it's pretty, it's dark. Yeah. By the way, like speaking of why this is in the public interest,
Starting point is 01:02:40 Louisiana lawmakers started looking into New Orleans Saints state funding after players protested on the field. So they were like, oh, maybe we won't fund your team now. Oh, because they have something to say about violence against black people? Yeah. Hmm. Huh. Huh.
Starting point is 01:02:59 Okay. Anyways, I don't think you can trust the AP. They're more like associated Protestants. Wow. More like anti-Pope. Wow. Jack, the Catholic crusader O'Brien. Step off, AP.
Starting point is 01:03:15 Look the other direction. When's the last time you went to church? Christmas. Oh, wow. Yeah. What do you go like, biannually? Easter Christmas? Yeah, thereabouts. The birth and the resurrection? Anytime my family's around, yeah. Yeah. What do you go like, biannually? Easter, Christmas? Yeah, thereabouts.
Starting point is 01:03:26 The birth and the resurrection? Anytime my family's around, yeah. Do you know the song still? Did you pray the rosary like a good boy? They changed a bunch of the wording. John Mulaney has a bit about it. It's almost like to catch you up in front of your family. Of what, the Hail Mary?
Starting point is 01:03:44 No, no. They changed the call and response stuff that the priest does in regular mass like lord hear our prayer yeah peace be with you and also with you is now and with your spirit oh his mercy in earth forever yeah so you you sound like you know it's the way that the Catholic cops in the back. Fake ass Catholic. Had it happen to me so many times. Did your mother look at you in disgust?
Starting point is 01:04:12 Always. Oh, God, Jack. Yeah. I mean, it's a Catholic church. Yeah. That's what it's there for, is for parents to look at their children in disgust and remind Feel the guilt. But the body of Christ tastes great. I always like those little chip things.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Yeah. The wafer. Yeah. Wafer. Let's talk about a mystery that has been confounding authorities and the zeitgeist for years. Natick, Massachusetts. The parking lot pooper. They have finally arrested. The worst Batman villain.
Starting point is 01:04:42 51-year-old Andrea Grosser. They have finally arrested 51 year old Andrea grocer. She is, uh, allegedly. Okay. Kept pooping outside of a sporting, the same sporting goods store about eight times. And she's been charged with eight counts of wanton destruction of property. I didn't realize pooping was wanton destruction of property.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Cause you can clean it up, you know, you want to touch it afterwards, though? Depends on what got poop on it. You know what I mean? If it's a priceless thing. You know what I mean? Depends on the kind of poop.
Starting point is 01:05:12 I don't know, man. It's all about how valuable the thing is to you. And this is a whole other topic of discussion. Like the structural integrity, I mean. Yeah. Yeah. Well, if you can hose it off. Right.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Well, can you hose it off, I think, is the first question. If I don't have to touch it, I can hose it off. Right. Can you hose it off, I think is the first question. If I don't have to touch it, I can hose it off. Anybody who's had a dog knows the... There are some that are just not good. Yeah. So what happened was that it all started apparently in December. The store owner was like, called the cops. He's like, yo, I'm looking...
Starting point is 01:05:38 He described it as mounds of feces in his parking lot. And they first... The cops, like when they were first looking at him, they come by. They're like, I don't know. This has got to be an animal, man. That's like a lot of shit. Like, what's going on? But then they found toilet paper and shit and wipes in the area. And then they also, the bowel movements, the BMs were caught on camera.
Starting point is 01:06:00 But the license plate of the car was always shielded. So they're like fuck we don't like we see it there's this person we see this lady taking wild shits in the parking lot so then uh this is this is when you love to see police resources going to something worthwhile they increased patrols in the area in an effort to catch her and they've literally caught her i don't know not literally but they caught her red assed, I guess. Red haired. And they pulled up on 7 a.m. on Wednesday of last week, got her. Got her.
Starting point is 01:06:31 And hauled her ass into the county. And the photo, the mugshot. The most ashamed looking mugshot. Like, I almost feel, I feel for her. Yeah. She's clearly dealing with something that's not like that she just doesn't have control of right now i mean look the most cynical way is she gets off on taking shits in parking lots right she hates the owner or some shit right and she got
Starting point is 01:06:55 caught and she she feels bad she got caught or yeah maybe she's going through some shit and that's the only way she can poop right at first like just from the headline alone, I was thinking maybe she's like a jogger. That's what I thought too. That woman in Colorado. Exactly. Yeah. Because that has happened to me on a trail and not in front of a house. Yeah, no, jogger poops. I get it. You can't stop it.
Starting point is 01:07:18 Yeah, you can't stop it. But this is her driving. And it's happened to you by saying it's happened to you eight times at the same place, right? Yes. At the same parking lot. Over and over again. In Massachusetts.
Starting point is 01:07:27 At 7 a.m. But for her to get in her car, to bring wipes. Yeah, that shows you. That's where I'm like, this is vandalism, right? Yeah. Like you're trying to, you don't, I don't know what happened. Like the guy sell you a shitty racket or something. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Like a tennis racket. Yeah. Something wasn't right. Okay. The hockey shoulder pads weren't good enough. I don't know. I'm still going to side with her on this one, guys. But her hygiene's great. I mean, yeah, because whenever I hear people doing wild shits out in
Starting point is 01:07:55 the open world, like a jogger pooper, I'm always like, are they not wiping? Are they not coming prepared? She could be the new spokesperson for, I don't know. Oh, yeah. What's that? Metamucil or some shit?
Starting point is 01:08:09 Dietary health. Yeah. Fibro One. Yeah. Take Jamie Lee Curtis off the yogurt commercial. Oh, yeah. There you go. No, don't do that.
Starting point is 01:08:16 Active, yeah. You'll take a dump in a parking lot and bring your wipes. Yeah. Great. Yeah. Well. Solved. Yeah, great. Well. Solved. Wrap that up.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Kim, it's been a pleasure having you. Where can people find you, follow you? I am on Instagram and Twitter at the underscore underscore red dot. And Facebook, Reddit, basically anywhere that you can see web comics. I try to be one. You're not trying. You're doing it. Straight up.
Starting point is 01:08:50 There it is. Aw. Aw. Is there a tweet or other work of social media you've been enjoying? Maybe. Like I was scrolling so much this morning trying to find something good. But it feels like my feed is really just trash. We love trash.
Starting point is 01:09:09 All right, well, here's some good trash. From Philip Henry at Major Celebrity. Someone, I'm in town. New Yorkers. Oh my fucking God, that's so great. Have fun. And I know that's New Yorkers, but I think that applies to everywhere yeah uh
Starting point is 01:09:28 miles where can people find you and what's the tweet you've been enjoying twitter instagram at miles of gray uh also on my other podcast for 20 day fiance talking about 90 day fiance check that one out too uh some tweets that are like man i got i got a few that i'm liking uh first one first up is from uh iviani at ivie a and i says a tribe called stressed i like that one also jenny hogan jenny at jenny hogan underscore whenever a guy goes down on me all i can think is i deserve this And another one from Hannah Dickinson. I don't think my friend would have sex with her brother, but I also don't know why she poses with him like that. That's so weird. Some tweets I've been enjoying.
Starting point is 01:10:21 At Shosh Magosh tweeted, one time I was my college's mascot to a basketball game. Emphasis on one time. And then there's just a video of the worst mascot ever. Really? Yeah, they're just not doing anything. They're just standing there and it's really surreal to see. Like at one point they're just sitting in the crowd,
Starting point is 01:10:40 just watching the game. It's Colgate. And then Notek Ben, at no tech ben tweeted uh one idea for the nba is to have announcers who enjoy watching basketball uh which i agree they should give it a shot it's wild idea uh you can find me on twitter jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
Starting point is 01:11:17 as well as the song we write out on. Myles, what are we writing out on this fine Monday? Miles, what are we writing out on this fine Monday? Well, actually, I just quickly do want to give a shout out to at just Jabay Jan, who tagged Jack and I in this tweet of the Amy Klobuchar comedy supercut. Oh, yeah. And I just have to play y'all a little bit of this clip of the comedic genius that is Amy Klobuchar. You know, we call this workshopping material. And this is her really nailing the cadence and delivery of this one joke that is pretty, pretty stellar. He sent out a tweet. He made fun of me
Starting point is 01:11:55 for talking about climate change in the middle of a blizzard. And he called me snow woman. So I wrote back, hey, Donald Trump, the science is on my side, and I'd like to see how your hair would fare in a blizzard. So I wrote back, hey, Donald Trump, the science is on my side, and I'd like to see how
Starting point is 01:12:18 your hair would fare in a blizzard. So I wrote back, Donald Trump, the science is on my side. And I'd like to see how your hair would fare in a blizzard. Got him.
Starting point is 01:12:33 Sometimes if you haven't noticed, you use a little humor. Like when he called me snow woman at my announcement in the middle of that thing. I wrote back on Twitter, I'd like to see how your hair would fare in a blizzard. In a blizzard. What is the pronunciation of blizzard?
Starting point is 01:12:52 She was just emphasizing different moments here and there. You know, shout out to the comedic queen. You know what I mean? Also, for the song we're going to go out on. It keeps going, doesn't it? It keeps going. That was halfway. Dozens.
Starting point is 01:13:02 Oh, man. I mean, Judy, or Judy, Rudy should get together. Oh, yeah. Battle it out. It's called the circle talk tour. There's nothing cooler than reading a tweet that you did one time. Be like, hey, and then I tweeted. I'm going to start saying that shit out loud.
Starting point is 01:13:20 Right. Okay, so this track we're going out on is from Andy Schaaf. We've done a track. I wrote out on is from andy schaaf uh we've done a track i wrote out on one of his songs earlier um he's from regina saskatchewan uh and this track is called neon skyline this has got you know it's it's moody man it's monday it's just it's it's i just love it and i like his music too a few listeners from the area were saying he's one of the greats from out there. So, you know, shout out to Canada.
Starting point is 01:13:46 And shout out to people in, like, Newfoundland. I know there's, like, a wild-ass storm out there. I've heard from some of y'all. So I'm glad you're safe. All right. Well, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it for today.
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