The Daily Zeitgeist - Nothing to CDC Here, Half Past Half Time 2.27.20

Episode Date: February 27, 2020

In episode 578, Jack and Miles are joined by super producer Anna Hossnieh to discuss the last of Harry and Meghan's royal duties, the Coronavirus hurting the stock market and Trump's thoughts on it, t...he Democratic debates, Cuba, conservatives still being angry about the Super Bowl halftime show, and more!FOOTNOTES: Prince Harry No More as Mr. Windsor Declares: Call Me Harry Coronavirus Shows the Problem With Trump’s Stock Market Boasting I cannot believe that @CNBC allowed @larry_kudlow to spread disinformation that will endanger Americans. The CDC clearly stated that we need to prepare for an outbreak and this Trump sycophant says it's all ok Election 2020 live updates: Democrats jockey for support ahead of S.C. primary Pete Buttigieg Deletes Tweet Slamming Bernie Sanders and 'Revolutionary Politics' of 1960s Cuba has a lung cancer vaccine we in the US had no access too because we sanctioned Cuba. WHO validates elimination of mother-to-child transmission of HIV and syphilis in Cuba Over 1,300 complaints were sent to the FCC about Shakira and J.Lo's Super Bowl halftime show WATCH: Thundercat - 'Black Qualls (feat. Steve Lacy & Steve Arrington) [Single Version]' (Official Audio) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:01 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 122, episode four of The Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say, officially off the top, fuck the Koch brothers, and fuck Fox News and fuck the coronavirus. It's Thursday, February 27, 2020. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Biden. I'm amazed at the way you're losing all the time. Biden.
Starting point is 00:02:37 I'm amazed at the way they praise you. That's courtesy of Christy. I'm a Gucci man. I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Yes, this host just might be Miles of Gray.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Miles Gray. Miles Gray. And I'm really sorry for this Purple Rain, a.k.a. I really realized Tyler Bursch at Tyler Bursch, we should have said, dearly beloved, we have gathered here today
Starting point is 00:03:08 to talk about this thing called sight. And we missed that. That was low-hanging fruit. But hopefully I made it up with that Purple Rain, a.k.a. Thank you, Tyler Bursch. Thank you, the state of Minnesota. Thank you, Snow. Thank you, Allie Bunnies.
Starting point is 00:03:20 And thank you, Skyways. You know I don't have any other way to open this show. I always have to open it the same way. Oh, I meant the live show. Oh, yeah. I can't think of mine. We'll get teleprompters next.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Yeah, exactly. It's all teleprompters. Everybody should know that about the live show. Speaking of the live show, we are on the road with our time machine and super producer Anna Hosnia in tow. We are in. We were in Minneapolis last night or two nights ago. We are in Chicago this very evening.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Oh, yeah. February 27th. Please bring Village with Daniel Van Kirk. Please. Yeah. Bring Italian beefs. Throw them on stage. Wet, though. Bring Italian beefs. Throw them on stage. Wet, though.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Make sure they're wet. Yeah, make sure they're dipped in the au jus. We're in Toronto tomorrow night, February 28th, at the Great Hall with Mark Little. For tickets, go to dailyzeitgeist.com and go to the Live Appearances tab. This is the end of the tour. This is it, you guys.
Starting point is 00:04:23 This is the last chance to catch uh this time machine this trip back through time yeah till we do the next one yeah till we do the next one but this is i think we're gonna retire this particular show well yeah see that we we like to make this show special we like to make it so if you show up you get to see something that nobody else sees that's why we don't put the shows out publicly because we want to create something special for the people who come out. Not to say that the cities we go to are special. They are in their own way.
Starting point is 00:04:51 The ones we don't go, y'all are special too. We don't like you quite as much until we've been there and met you in person. Yeah, that's true. And then we meet them in person and you bring your blunt offerings to the altar of gray,
Starting point is 00:05:02 then everything is fine. But I'm really stoked to still see the rest of the country and meet the rest of y' everything is fine but i'm really stoked to still see the rest of the country and meet the rest of y'all because somehow everyone's been good yeah it's been an awesome meeting everyone uh it's been yeah a lot a lot of fun the only thing that varies i think from show to show is the level of inebriation from the guests from people in the audience usually pretty fucked up though i'd say is generally the the rule uh which is good i think i think it makes the show more enjoyable uh well we are thrilled to be joined in our third
Starting point is 00:05:31 seat by the hilarious the talented the wonderful the pod mother she is anna hosnier aka bring her Anna Hosnier! A.K.A. Bring her home, Peter! Bring her home to us! That was the one clip that I was like, you know what? I might watch that episode of The Bachelor. Not that I don't want to watch it. I just want to see how extra that mom is. That mom is...
Starting point is 00:06:01 Sometimes you have a mom who also wants to be a reality star and knows how to hit her mark. I know. There to be a reality star and knows how to hit her mark. I know. There's something so beautiful. And knows how to hit her mark. She saw that because there's kind of a, the way The Bachelor works, and sorry to really just come out hard. No, no. We brought it on ourselves.
Starting point is 00:06:18 We wanted this. They like to do a lot of red herring edits to throw you off the scent that's like the whole thing so you're like oh no who is she talking about and then in the end you just find out she's talking dog yeah they're like they're like the dog ran away peter you really have to leave the show to take care of this but um it'll just be like she's speaking generally right she's just being like bring someone home to love you. And that's too much of a reaction to somebody. Whoever it is, it doesn't matter. She feels that this handsome white man who comes from a good family.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Yeah, this is his only chance at love. How's he ever going to find love? I think he'll be fine if this doesn't necessarily work out. Yeah, if this doesn't work out. This dude is going to be okay. Over a million Instagram followers. His DMs are probably packed. And she's like, bring her home. By the way, Zach called me and said that to me.
Starting point is 00:07:17 He said, bring her home, Jack. Are you sure it wasn't my dog? I think he was speaking through a translator yeah well anna all right we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we are going to take our listener by the way i'm keeping my microphone up with uh my chin and nose because we have it on a wobbly table so uh hey this is what we do this is what we do for you uh but we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We're going to talk about Harry,
Starting point is 00:07:48 Miles' birthday twin. Just Harry now. Just Harry. He's not Prince Harry anymore. Hell no. So don't call him that. He doesn't like that, okay? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:07:55 We're going to talk about Trump's Wall Street boner. We're going to talk about the debate from a couple nights ago and the crowd in particular seemed to be really just revved up for a couple of those candidates in particular. So we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about Pete Buttigieg's tweet
Starting point is 00:08:13 that he had to take down because... He kind of forgot history. Yeah, yeah. He was talking about how Donald Trump was nostalgic for the 50s, and Bernie Sanders was nostalgic for the radical 60s. Oh, boy. Equally bad things in his view.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Wait a second. I don't know. I'm just not a fan of human rights. Right. Yeah, I think that's when he... The civil rights movement, you mean? That's not... I mean, when he was saying it,
Starting point is 00:08:40 it was clear what he was talking about, but when you put it in a tweet, they go, don't tweet that. If you're reading that very narrowly, you're like, what? Well, but what is he talking about? He's talking, I mean, we'll get into it, but he's referring to the sort of Cold War sort of shit. Like, that's what he was like,
Starting point is 00:08:57 because the attacks that he's been getting on that side. Okay, whatever. But I mean, that's what he means. I don't think, I mean, it would be amazing. The way it came out in the debate was sort of in regards to how he's getting hit by like, because he's not being just so overtly hostile about like countries that are the same things that the people on the left who are doing revolutionary things that we're talking about uh were being criticized for in the 60s so you can't just be like well no not that one this one no but no but if i'm saying in the context of because it came out of the debate an answer in the debate stop defending
Starting point is 00:09:42 budaj miles sorry you know i've had enough of your we all know you're in the debate. Stop defending Buttigieg, Miles. I'm sorry. I've had enough of your, we all know you're in the tank for him. Dude, I think, I'm just saying, let's give him a shot. Let's hear this guy out. Yeah. Jack, love is blind. That's true.
Starting point is 00:09:54 I had to get my mom off that train this morning. Off of Buttigieg? Yeah. Really? We had a conversation. She's like, you're in Minnesota. Isn't that where Amy Klobuchar is from? I like her.
Starting point is 00:10:05 And I go, what do you like about her? She goes, I think she's like you're in minnesota isn't that where amy klobuchar is from i like her okay and i go what do you like about her she goes i think she's logical and i go what else she's like uh i don't know i'm not really supporting her but i think i like her and she's like i like pete and i'm like what what's going on and then you know my mom spoke some sense to me yeah she got me i mean i i don't know i've talked to some sense to me. Yeah. She got me. I mean, I don't know. I've talked to some people lately who were like, I wouldn't necessarily expect to be more moderate who have some moderate points of view. Well, I also realized, like, my mom self-admittedly,
Starting point is 00:10:35 she's like, you know, the people she interacts with, she has like a very much generational immigrant bubble that she's in. But she's sort of aware enough to realize that because when I talked to her, she's like,'s like oh right the stakes are different for other people which is why i see why people are motivated for other candidates i also think that people who like from a previous generation it's not just that they're scared of like communism it's that they are very much a part of that media bubble that is like you need to be moderate because Clinton was considered like a leftist by them. Anyways, we're going to get to all of this.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Bloomberg's incompetent handling of a New York emergency. All of that and plenty more. But first, super producer Ana Hosnia, we'd like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are, ma'am? Who are? Madame.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Ma'am. Ma'am. You know, I Google this a lot because as of, in the last year, I've kind of lost a lot of hair. And I don't know if... I don't really understand when you truly start losing hair because it's all over the place on the internet. WebMD says I have cancer. But everywhere else, it's like... Well, WebMD will always tell you I have cancer.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Yeah, exactly. That's the bit. That's the bit. But I'm trying to figure out like is it am i just hitting that point now where like my hair is thinning out because for my whole life i've had the thickest hair sure yeah so um but it looks thick from here i'll tell you that yeah but you know like you know your hair yeah like physically like it don't feel the same and i'm starting to think like is it starting to go? Is it time?
Starting point is 00:12:07 Is it from, can it be from dyeing your hair, doing treatments and stuff? Does that affect it? Yeah, I've been doing treatments on my hair my whole life. And based on the amount of treatments I've done, I kind of in my mind assumed it would have gone sooner. So maybe my hair just really held on as long as it could. But there is like some common thinking that like at a certain point, like your hair starts thinning out too. My mom always said it like,
Starting point is 00:12:32 don't hate on your hair because it'll all be gone. And I'd be like, oh my God. Wait, really? Well, she'd be like, look at my hair. I used to have the thickest hair and now look at me. Is it thin? I mean, it's not like super thin but it's definitely thinner than mine. Yeah, I mean, it happens with age.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Yeah, so I don't know. I've just been looking into it because I'm curious. Do you do that thing where when you wash your hair, you look at the hair that comes out and you just try and put it back on? Of course I do. Just like create a little bird's nest up top. Yeah, I have waterproof super glue in the shower every time
Starting point is 00:13:03 I go in just hoping for the best. My wife has very thick hair, and our wall is covered. Oh, she leaves it? Yes, some days. Oh, that's nice. That's a nice place to be in your life that you're comfortable enough to leave it. Because my boyfriend's like, get your goddamn hair out of here. Oh, don't think that I don't do that.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Oh, what I do is Her her majesty because she has this thing i see her do it where she like when it's on the wall she like does her finger in a circle that technique and then just just so it like sort of concentrates in one area and then leaves these little swirlies i take them off i keep them and then i present them to her in her bed i'm like you forgot these why did you do this fucking gross's fucking gross. I'm like, I don't like the hairy walls in the shower. Yeah, I do that too, and then I throw it away. I have a sweater that I'm working on made of her hair. Just in case you ever lose her, you want to be able to smell her.
Starting point is 00:13:56 That's kind of beautiful, and I really like that. He's like, yeah, when we go on the road like this, I have my wife's hair bag I just threw into. That's truly hashtag relationship goals a hair bag yeah that's your significant other just smells from time to time to remember your scent uh what is something you think is over it over it and this is this comes from the fact that we've been traveling a lot but hotel towels i always want to say like like, okay, you know, you get a nice hotel. This towel should be fluffy and, like, just smooth.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Yeah, soft. They're so crispy. But they're over laundered. Yeah. Yeah. They're, like, bleached. Which I understand. I do want a clean towel.
Starting point is 00:14:36 But at the same time, it's, like, it's so rough. It's a little softener. Come on, baby. Yeah. Treat us good. I'm like, I'm dry now. It's me just wiping my skin with the towel. It's weird. I feel like maybe I'm dry now. It's me just wiping my skin. It's weird.
Starting point is 00:14:46 I feel like maybe I had a, there has been an arc. I used to think hotel towels were the apex of towel quality. Right. That's what I did too. And, but that like, I don't know. That was like my perception maybe in the like nineties and early two thousands. And then as I, maybe as I travel more as an adult rather than like a wide-eyed like minor who's dependent on their family's money like right you start being like man i paid all
Starting point is 00:15:09 this money for this shit right this versus a kid i'm like i can use nine towels right and i feel like spas like have you ever been to a spa got good towels spas got the good towels or like even like some gyms have nice towels but i wonder is it like the presidential suite that they save all the nicest towels for or something yeah that's a good question we should get a presidential suite yeah we should do next one we book a presidential suite just to see what the towels are like the second you get to like actually brought on need this room downgrade me to the cheapest room you have immediately i need my money back or else i'm gonna have a panic attack in the lobby my wife was in las vegas uh last weekend
Starting point is 00:15:45 she was volunteering knocking doors uh it's not true she was there for a fun thing but uh she met somebody who had gone for the tyson fury fight and had like ordered a room that was wild expensive at the casino where the fight was. And it cost what a presidential suite would cost. It wasn't even in the hotel. It was in a different hotel that you had to walk through, and it was basically like a towel closet. So that's just something to keep in mind. If you're ever going to Vegas...
Starting point is 00:16:22 It was at Mandalay Bay? I forget where it was. Yeah, because that sounds like when people go to Mandalay Bay and they're. If you're ever going to Vegas. Was it at Mandalay Bay? I forget where it was. Yeah, because that sounds like when people go to Mandalay Bay and they're like, you're actually at the hotel, which is a walk on the other side of the property. Yeah, exactly. So watch out for that, guys. What is something you think is underrated? Underrated?
Starting point is 00:16:42 Like a nice, warm biscuit with gravy on it. Oh, hell yeah. I don't know why, but in my older age. As my hair thins. As my hair thins. And I've become quite peculiar about how towels feel on my skin. It really is. The more I've aged, and I'm not like old, guys. I'm only 29.
Starting point is 00:16:56 But I'm actually starting to like feel the effect. You know, Miles, how you're always with your walker at the mere 35 you're at. No, I'm just joking. Miles is young and sprout. Spray. Spray. Sprout. Sprouts.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Sprouting. I'm sprouting. You're sprouting. I'm sprouting new hairs on my head. These chia seeds are starting to sprout on my head. You really said sprout. Yeah. I feel like you start dying of old age at like age 28, late 20s.
Starting point is 00:17:22 That's when it starts happening. Right, right. So I like a certain comfort food. old age at like age 28 late 20s that's when it starts happening right right so i i just i like a certain like comfort food like i've never been a huge meat eater my whole life it's more in my later life because my mom's a pescatarian so i didn't i the only thing i really ate was fish for most part except for like kebab every once in a while because my dad would you know force us to when he was grilling but um yeah there's's something about a nice biscuit with a nice warm... It's just so soft.
Starting point is 00:17:47 I mean, I know your brand, Anna. Wherever we go and there's a biscuit, you'll be like, I already ate dinner, but I saw there's a biscuit on the menu. I'm going to get that too. Man, it's almost midnight. The biscuits are really old. I love a good biscuit.
Starting point is 00:18:02 And if you get it right when they bring it out warm and you're like... I could use that as a towel. I love a good biscuit. Can you bring me the biscuit? And if you hit it right, you get it right when they bring it out warm and you're like, it's like heaven. So you could literally, I could use that as a towel. I'd love it. It's so soft. We should start combining our interests
Starting point is 00:18:12 for our next tour where it's like, we only go to states where weed is legal and they're in cities where people say the best biscuits are. Yeah. Please bring your biscuit offerings to the next show. Please.
Starting point is 00:18:23 That makes a good biscuit. You know what I mean? Although of the places I've been where weed isn't legal, the people of- The biscuits tend to be better. The biscuits tend to be great. No, people of Minneapolis don't seem very worried about smoking on the street. Nah, you know, look. I mean, I feel like that's not the case in New York, maybe.
Starting point is 00:18:45 New York is fine. People smoke not the case in New York, maybe. New York is fine. People smoke on the streets in New York? It's really, I think, just how the general attitude of the population is towards weed. Yeah. Anyways, when I called the cops on you guys, they didn't come. Yeah, they didn't come. Makes a lot of sense. And I'm like, Jack, you put my life in danger.
Starting point is 00:19:02 What is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false um this is something i i realized recently and i don't know why i have to constantly like explain myself before i tell you but something that like scared you as a child um or like freaked you out because you didn't have like a good enough understanding or context of it doesn't necessarily mean that it won't do the same as an adult even when you've grown and you've learned and you've read and you've got all this context for things. Because I've been having a tough month, and my mom is so, she's like a devout Muslim woman, seems so at goddamn pace all the time.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Nothing, nothing can- Unwavering. No, she's always like, hey, you know what? I just know that there's a plan for me and everything's going to be okay. And I'm going to make it and whatever happens, happens. Which when you're like young, that's infuriating. And you're like, you don't get it, mom. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:55 But, you know, as I've gotten older, I'm like, God, how do I find this peace she has? So she was like, I don't know. Like, look at the Koran again. I don't know. Like, read something. Try and find something that you enjoy. And again, she's never really pushed Islam on me because it's kind of her own thing. Like, my dad's very secular.
Starting point is 00:20:13 So she's never felt the need to be like, you have to do this. Because it's almost as if she doesn't want me in her, hang out with her girl group. Anyway, she does. She has like a straight, like, very, like, intense, like, group of, like, Muslim friends, and they do Koran study every Friday. It feels like a party sometimes where I've been at home and walked in. My mom's like, can we help you? And you're like, oh, okay. You kids be good now.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Am I lame? Yeah, she's like, okay, because we're doing something here. As a child, I flipped through the Koran just casually trying to like learn, read, and it freaked me out. It was just so, I think just like the practice of like the certain thing, like the ideas that they put forth that you would like have to like apply and like think about. It was too much for my, like my little like six-year-old, seven-year-old brain. I think any religious text is like that for a child. Maybe even i was like 10 i can't remember exactly but it really freaked me i
Starting point is 00:21:09 had like nightmares like i was scared the jinn was gonna come get me or like it was like all this stuff that i didn't understand to create enough context understand like no it's just like it's it's not like a creature that's coming to get you it's it's just like a yeah we internalize these sort of right and and then i i looked at it again because i was like i'm gonna try and find some peace and um it kind of didn't sit right with me i don't know there was some certain it didn't hit as much where i was like a creature is coming to get me you know it was more just like the the things i was reading i i it didn't sit right with me and and it's not that I'm like saying like,
Starting point is 00:21:45 like, you know, Islam Quran is not for me. The Quran is not for me. But like, I didn't know how to take, it felt so real and so like rooted. And like, it was just like some, I almost felt like I was being like, like I was being invasive into a religion
Starting point is 00:22:01 that I wasn't allowed in because I didn't have, my mind wasn't open enough. Like it really, it hit me in a way I wasn't allowed in because I didn't have, I, my mind wasn't open enough. Like it really, it hit me in a way I wasn't expecting where I was like, I might, one, I was like,
Starting point is 00:22:10 I'm not pure or good enough for this. Like, I don't feel like I should be allowed to even like apply any of this to my life. It was a weird thing. Like it was maybe a little bit more of a mature reaction, but it still hit me in a way that unnerved me. Like I was like, Oh, like I, I'm just so set in my ways now that it's going to be very hard for me to start
Starting point is 00:22:29 internalizing any of this because everything i'd be like what what you're doing that as you read yeah like just out loud my reactions to it were um a little unnerved and i think i just i i wasn't raised in it so i I don't know how to take it in and I think it also like kind of freaked me out sure well I think it's also like you know on one level we have to be open to things and I understand too like when especially reading any kind of religious text I think if I picked up a bible now after going to like Lutheran and Catholic schools from kindergarten to 12th grade there would be something I would feel slightly disingenuous because at the time I was never really engaging in any, like I had no beliefs that were rooted in it. But I think there's something too, like it sounds like you're
Starting point is 00:23:15 at a point too, where you kind of, you're looking for a new way to sort of take in your life experiences. And I think that's always like the most stressful times we have, at least for me personally, are typically when I'm on the precipice of some kind of sort of shift in my thinking or perception and that's typically when we're at the most anxious because everything we were using to sort of make sense of the world isn't quite giving us the same level of security or like base of anymore and so it sounds like you're on the point of a breakthrough you know and for for 1499 you should buy my tapes um yeah i was actually gonna ask yeah yeah no but i think it's i think that's important but yeah also recognizing too like you know you're you're we're all looking for
Starting point is 00:23:56 a new ways to process our experience too and sometimes we have to let go of new things develop new ones yeah but it's a process you know i think what you were saying about like feeling like you were walking in on a party that resonates with me like you know having been in recovery for a few years now i think a lot of what people replace like substances and like things they used to use to like get out of their own head with is like spiritual stuff, like spirituality. I know for myself, I used to use like alcohol and other things that I don't use anymore to achieve some of the things that like people use
Starting point is 00:24:38 like spiritual things for now. I think there's like something connected there. And then I think it's just hard to think your way out of anything that's like mental because like we don't have access to 90% of our mental processes and like we're inside of them. So it's just hard to, I always say like, I feel like we're uniquely bad at judging our own selves and our own minds because it's just we don't have the perspective. That's what therapy is. So trying to solve a problem you're having or just think your way out of something that goes back to how you were raised and your childhood is just so, so difficult.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Well, and we're also taught to like think about a problem to solve it yeah it's like i have a problem so now i will think about it yeah and now i have completely my thought process has been completely taken over by obsessing about a problem right because it's like a habit of being like well that's how you solve it you think about it but it's actually not the way to solve anything right like there are problems that i think that maybe have some kind of process to it that you can solve by being like oh this bridge has collapsed how do we solve you can solve that but if it's sort of like holy shit man like uh you know especially for me as like a creative or something right you have fucking uh imposter
Starting point is 00:25:59 syndrome or some shit and you go man fuck dude like i don't know let me think about this shit it's at that point you've only you've only surrendered all of your energy to a magnifying your problem you're actually not solving it you're you're expanding it exponentially and it's making it even harder to get out of because the solution has become think about the problem right rather than okay this problem exists but there is a way to pivot to what this how i move past that how i solve that or acknowledge that the problem exists but then bringing in other energy into your thought process of like but i'm doing these things right right so that might that might be in one way but i think purely obsessing about our problems is a
Starting point is 00:26:41 bad habit we have which is sort of born out of how we're not really told about our own like mental emotional hygiene right it's just sort of like you got a problem we're gonna obsess about it yeah and then yeah that and i feel like um sometimes you forget that like an outside perspective is necessary for someone to like stop you from spiraling in a way for sure be like well i don't see it that way and you're're like, wow. That's why I got to listen to these Tara Brock meditations, man. You know what I mean? You got to look inside yourself, recognize that shit and also realize that's not me. That's a thing happening in my experience.
Starting point is 00:27:14 But it's very easy to then replace a problem by somehow that being like your identity or your existence is that problem. And it's not. I actually prefer the Tara Reid meditation. That's awesome. She has some interesting things is that problem and it's not i actually uh prefer the tara reed meditation that's also she has some interesting things to say uh all right let's take a quick break we'll be right back i've been thinking about you i want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal
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Starting point is 00:31:43 So where are we in the process? We're kind of, they're closing out their royal duties. Like, this is their last run of official, like, working, like, engagements. As they put it, the final round of public engagements as a senior working royal. And he was recently at this, like like launch of a sort of environmentally conscious sustainable travel initiative um and when he was about to come on stage the host of the event basically said he said before i bring him out quote he's made it clear that we are all just
Starting point is 00:32:19 to call him harry so ladies and gentlemen please give a big warm Scottish welcome to Harry. I just like that they still treat him with the reverence of a royal. And it's like he's made it clear that we are all just to call. Prince Harry commands us to just call him Harry. Therefore, we shall. But I get what but I get sort of what, you know, they're being sensitive to, you know, him sort of distancing himself from his title. And again, I really feel like we need a reverse King Ralph type script about this guy who's just like, dude, I'm just Harry. Reverse King Ralph.
Starting point is 00:32:55 You know? Yeah. It's going to be a great movie. But they still have their HRH titles. So they just won't use it. Her Royal Highness or His Royal Highness. But they just won't really be using them publicly. He's growing up, man.
Starting point is 00:33:12 He's all grown up. And they're on their way to Canada, correct? They live in Canada already, yeah. Oh, they do? Oh, wow. Look at them. I think that's a sign I just need to go with My Her Highness and live in British Columbia as well
Starting point is 00:33:25 just live my life or you know maybe his security people will be like we know you're obsessed with him sir please keep your distance you're not going to smoke weed with him and hang and play FIFA do they still continue to have their security even if they're stepping down from duties
Starting point is 00:33:42 I don't know what the security is like for them I can't imagine that they're just sort of like walking around willy-nilly. Especially after hearing this episode. Yeah. They're probably not going to. There's guys with the same birthday who want to hang out. We need you back. Let's talk about Trump's Wall Street boner.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Oh, man. Loves to take credit for some good economy. Yeah. He definitely needs to call a doctor for an erection lasting eight or more hours for the Wall Street markets. You know, everything with the economy, whether it's the economy that Obama rehabilitated or the stock markets going up and down, gains, whatever, he has to take credit for it. Like, you know, that's like his lifeblood.
Starting point is 00:34:22 It's the only thing he like really feels strongly about um but that also means when shit goes down or the the markets start to get depressed or the numbers start going down he's gotta find fucking somebody to blame some common enemy some reason why it's bullshit and there's nothing to worry about actually because he's king wall street keep your money safe um and right now, because of coronavirus, it's been impacting the markets, like from the quarantines to travel restrictions, just the slow decreased trade.
Starting point is 00:34:52 It just means now that Trump has to lie and begin to point the finger. So recently he tweeted, low ratings, fake news, MSDNC, and CNN are doing everything possible to make the coronavirus, he spells it like car-ona, but okay, anyway, coronavirus look as bad as possible, including panicking markets, if possible. Likewise, they're incompetent, do-nothing Democrat comrades are all talk, no action, USA in great shape, tags the cdc in it um then says i will be having a news conference at the white house on this subject today at 6 p.m cdc representatives and others will be there thank you okay so wait so so he's like everything's fine i will be having
Starting point is 00:35:40 a news conference to address the crisis to tell you how fine it is yes now mind you privately trump has been going off about he's like the cdc health and human services they're fucking me by like telling people about this global possible pandemic threat they're fucking me over like he's pissed that they're even that they're telling people yeah okay so listen right the head of immunization at the cdc nancy mezzanier if i maybe completely butchered that name no you know she was saying that like disruption to our everyday lives due to this uh illness um may be severe as it spreads and as she says quote ultimately we expect we will see community spread in this country it's not so much a question of if this will happen anymore but rather more exactly when this will happen and how community spread in this country. It's not so much a question of if this will happen anymore, but rather more exactly when this will happen
Starting point is 00:36:27 and how many people in this country will have severe illness. Also, just some breaking news is that a Korean Air flight attendant just tested positive for coronavirus in Seoul, but she had been working at LAX. So that's something that is happening where we were just yesterday uh two days ago so um yeah this is like i said the cdc and most like you know their articles saying like look don't panic but be prepared yeah right like they're saying if you have medications that you need,
Starting point is 00:37:06 make sure you have maybe a month's supply because if things were to be seriously disrupted, you don't want to be caught out with not having your vital medications. Wash your fucking hands at a bare minimum. The medication thing is so frustrating to me because with our healthcare, you can't get your medication. You can't be like, I need extras.
Starting point is 00:37:27 They're like, oh, sorry, you know the rule. Your healthcare only allows you to re-up only within three days. Yeah, but what about coronavirus? I don't know. Does your insurance policy cover that?
Starting point is 00:37:35 Right. Oh, that's so frustrating. Yeah, and again, a lot of people don't have that ability. These are possible reverberations we could see that would put people in very bad situations.
Starting point is 00:37:45 And you, I mean, God help us if we get to a situation like that where people are like, hold on, I need access to my medications. But because of the virus and like prohibitive costs, I want. So also there's also just basically wash your hands. You're cutting down your risk by 30 to 50 percent just by like being very on top of keeping your hands clean and washing down your surfaces all that shit um so you know watch out y'all but again trump is really does not want people to think that this is a problem when most of the experts are saying we need to be very aware of this right and also other people are saying we might be wholly unprepared to handle something like this.
Starting point is 00:38:27 I mean, we've seen how an authoritarian government treats it in China. They were trying to keep it under wraps. They made some journalists disappear who were reporting too honestly about it and making it seem too bad. And I mean, it's pretty easy to see how Trump is going to respond to something just by
Starting point is 00:38:46 looking at the way authoritarian governments respond to the same thing. So he's going to tell everybody to shut the fuck up if he thinks it makes things in his government look bad or out of control or like there might be a problem. Yeah. Or just basically gaslight us and like everything's fine. So case in point, right larry cudlow uh goes out there and basically he goes on cnbc um and he's you know one of the president's advisors you know like how to just on this economy he goes on cdc and just fucking lies on cnbc to like get people to i guess chill the fuck out well look our public health people who are spectacular, the best in the world, are preparing for any eventualities. And that's exactly what
Starting point is 00:39:31 they should do. They were ahead of the curve on the travel bans. Now they're ahead of the curve insofar as laying out potential emergency plans. That doesn't mean it's going to go into effect, but they're doing exactly what we're doing. We're going to get a supplemental. We've asked for a supplemental up on the hill of a couple of billion dollars or so. That's exactly what they were doing. I just want to say, though, as far as the U.S. is concerned, when you look at this, I mean, you have a little higher head count on the infections because of the cruise ship people coming off. We have contained this. We have contained this.
Starting point is 00:40:12 I won't say airtight, but pretty close to airtight. We've done a good job in the United States. Hats off to our public health people. So don't worry. Nothing to see here. We have it fully contained. Right. And he's like, look, yeah, people died. But like, it's not going to be an economic tragedy, guys. to see here we have it fully contained right and he's like look yeah people died but like
Starting point is 00:40:25 it's not going to be an economic tragedy guys let's not let's not let's not get all freaked out about the markets but it's definitely affecting people like uh friends of mine yeah who own a business uh shout out rewaxation uh in the austin and san francisco area anything that has a supply chain that goes yeah outside the United States and especially in China or in Asia. Yeah. And a lot of businesses, if you're getting materials for your business from China because they come in at a cheaper cost, now your margins are upside down if you're having to find other distributors. So everything, it's so dependent on the trade aspects of it. It's, you know, I just...
Starting point is 00:41:06 Please, please take care of yourselves. Please be aware. Please cough into your elbow. Right. And please... Crook your elbow. Do people know that? What'd you say?
Starting point is 00:41:15 Do people know that? Crook your elbow is the way to... is the place to cough? Is that what you say? The crook of your elbow? Oh, right there. Like the inside of your elbow, yeah. Don't they just say you cough like Dracula?
Starting point is 00:41:24 Like you were in escape? I think that was from The Office. Yeah. Cool. Wow, human life is... We hang by a thread. No one cares about us. It's wild to me because you get rid of the humans.
Starting point is 00:41:39 What do you think? You think the markets are going to do... It doesn't make sense to me. It's like if you're dead because no one cared enough to do something about this pandemic, this coming pandemic. What who cares about the markets? Well, no, but that's but that's how these people operate. They're so short sighted. It's there's no like I don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Like if you're not here, what does the market matter? Oh, come on. It's for the like chipmunks that are left so they can you know run invest in stocks but you know that's like some people that's they just live by based on what the numbers they see on a stock ticker and that's life for them but i guess and those are we all live in our bubbles and you know some people are so wealthy they just look at numbers i gotta start training my dog to start investing so he can have a good life when I'm gone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:27 Tell him how to play the markets. He's running the markets. All right, let's talk about the debate from a couple nights ago. The mainstream media takeaway seems to be that it was a mess. It was solid Biden performance. Everyone went at Bernie Sanders, specifically for his Cuba take and his Anderson Cooper interview where he said Castro's regime wasn't all bad.
Starting point is 00:42:53 And, you know, possibly because, you know, the debate format is naturally limited and possibly because this particular debate was a fucking mess. He was screaming over each other. He didn't really have a fully convincing rebuttal. I think he was trying to make a nuanced point in a long-form interview, and he was poorly timed
Starting point is 00:43:13 because he gave the other candidates something to take out of context. He was this fodder. So it wasn't probably a great debate for him, but people are also saying nobody really emerged as a Bernie slayer. But Bloomberg seemed
Starting point is 00:43:33 to be alive this time around, like he was an actual political candidate. But the big difference was whereas in the past debate the majority of the crowd support seemed to be with the people who had the most support as candidates so sanders uh had more support than say bloomberg or you know elizabeth warren or elizabeth warren although
Starting point is 00:44:03 elizabeth warren had some good support in the previous debates because i think it was also you know you saw people who were performing well uh had support the crowd was just you know doing what you would expect a crowd to do when somebody had a sick burn they would be like oh and when bloomberg said something like well you know if they were offended by something i said like putting the onus on the people who he sexually harassed like people were like oh god but this time that wasn't there it seemed to be a little bit like i i was picturing when i was trying to picture the crowd i kept kept envisioning those Fuck Jerry posts
Starting point is 00:44:46 and those guys from that comedy sketch about Bloomberg enthusiasts who did the fake moves like Bloomberg video where it was trying to imagine what somebody who was actually passionate about Bloomberg would be like, what they would look like, because it was this weird sort of synthetic feeling crowd reaction to everything Bloomberg said in particular. It seemed to tilt
Starting point is 00:45:15 kind of heavily toward the moderates. And that just doesn't like you just generally, and maybe this is because South Carolina is is more conservative as we've talked about it's an older demographic that's voting uh some people also pointed out that it was three thousand dollars for a seat like between one thousand and three thousand dollars i think they started around 1750 right started 1751 up to 3000 and that that seemed impossible to me if it was like just an open market because who would pay to watch that but apparently the ticket price was part of a quote donation to one of the sponsors uh which were like these different political groups so it was you know rich people paying to then be in the good graces of various democratic groups. I still feel like that might be too innocent to just be like,
Starting point is 00:46:12 well, it was rich people, so they were pro-Bloomberg. Because, I mean, I had the thought in past debates, as somebody who just pays attention to the political process, that, man, Bloomberg and the centrists, and by extension, the DNC, can't like this crowd reaction where they're just kind of responding to sick burns and they're potentially the candidates that the DNC would prefer negatively. So why would they let that keep happening in a situation where in the past, like the DNC gave Hillary Clinton the fucking questions in 2016? Like, why would they just keep letting the crowd be, you know, something that acted against what their interests were? It seems like, I don't know, at at the very least like it makes sense to me that
Starting point is 00:47:05 the bloomberg campaign would have stacked the deck um i don't i don't know if that's even illegal like to i mean look at a bunch of people who support your candidate or who you're paying to support your candidate in the audience it would be the same thing if i were organizing for a campaign and there was a town hall or something i'd be like yo i'm getting as many fucking asses in those seats yeah to get that sort of reaction i mean honestly though too like there are just also jack a lot of moderates too so without even the most like i think everything can everything anything is possible right yeah yeah we're like that room was a lot of people who are just like i absolutely do not like a bernie sanders or elizabeth warren type presidency i love a pete biden or bloomberg
Starting point is 00:47:50 type thing um but yeah my other side of me would think too if i'm michael bloomberg and i just got sheathard uh in the last debate right i would be like yo what the fuck was that bro like where's my backup you think you didn't just like get off the stage and like shout at the people who work for him like i don't know so bad based on how he performed even in this last debate i don't know how much he gives a fuck because even when man elizabeth warren cornered him a bunch again and he did the same shit he was like one of the first moments was she was sort of pointing out you know you've got all these ndas going and he comes back and doubles down on the you know if they they just must not elect the joke i made yeah it's never like i i used language that i realized was actually
Starting point is 00:48:38 reprehensible and excusable but he probably can't say that because of maybe some legal liability because then he would acknowledge what he said was if whatever it is he does he does not have a good explanation or cannot show growth past a lot of these negatives especially when i think gail king was like what did you learn from stop and frisk you've apologized what did you learn yeah he wasn't able to articulate a lesson he just right i've apologized i was one of the the best mayors of the city yeah and i i spoke to black leaders about what i can do yeah i i totally acknowledge that there might just be moderates out there but like for instance like i'll accept it you know bernie had a line that would have gotten cheers in the past where he was like mayor bloomberg has solid and strong and enthusiastic
Starting point is 00:49:22 base of support they're just all billionaires and he got booed for that which okay that's fine maybe it's a bunch of moderates maybe like it's all these wealthy people but then like bloomberg would give really bad answers like at one point it seemed like he almost admitted that he bought 21 new members of congress in 2018 and people like shout like cheered they're like yeah which like it just seemed too much like it didn't even just unnatural it just didn't make sense it wasn't it didn't make sense as a as a human reaction yeah i mean i'm not saying that that's impossible especially when you look at his track record of being like hi can i pay you to just say good things about me because i'm having so much money. That seems to be his whole campaign.
Starting point is 00:50:05 Which makes him actually this so scary, right? Because he knows how to use money to manipulate. Like, he really knows how to do it. But even then, he may have been caught a little bit when people were cheering for just, like, maybe they were just on autopilot. They're like, if you hear Bloomberg, when Bloomberg say something, cheer.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Someone say something about Bloomberg bad, boo. Yeah. Yeah, I don't necessarily think it was like a DNC conspiracy, but I do think that something was up or maybe it's somewhere in between, you know? Yeah. I mean, again, the chaos of the debate like really was hard for people to really differentiate themselves. I think Elizabeth Warren again got Bloomberg pretty good again. But the cross-talk over each other was almost people were like,
Starting point is 00:50:50 y'all don't have a hold of this debate. And it's spiraling out. And I think that also speaks to the fact that that was a huge debate going into this next round of primaries. And people really needed to make an impact. And I think that coupled with everything, they sort of the lack of organization made it a little bit worse,
Starting point is 00:51:11 but yeah, I think I, when I watch these debates and I've been watching them less and less, or I start to watch them and slowly like lose my mind, but like, I feel like I'm not learning anything about the candidates, you know? Like,
Starting point is 00:51:24 I don't feel like I'm like, okay, so everyone says Elizabeth Warren doesn't support Medicare for all. But it sounds like she does based on other things. So, like, why she's not getting the chance to explain what her, like, plan is. It's like, okay, I know Bernie likes that. Okay. So, I want to understand, like, what's the difference between their plans? Like, what's their role at? Like, I don't, I have to just go, like, Google it because these debates aren't giving me anything other than the pure spectacle of the drama of it all.
Starting point is 00:51:49 And I'm like, I don't care about this anymore. I don't really like it. The moderators just set up the questions to be like that. Especially that one CNN one. It's very frustrating as a person who's just trying to understand who I, I mean, I'm an Elizabeth slash Bernie person. Like that's how I've always been. I don't, I'm not aggressively on either side, but I like to understand what their policies are and how they're different and what's going on. But I feel like I really, I struggle to get anything from these debates other than like, okay,
Starting point is 00:52:25 uh, Pete's doing that thing that he does where he tries to be like, look how progressive I am. But in like a weird, empty way, he has a way of saying a lot of words without exactly a lot of content. It's like, whoa.
Starting point is 00:52:38 And it's like that Fred Armisen bit, right? Where it's like the guy actually says nothing the whole time. It's like, you know what it's like? Because our democracy, right? When you think about it, when you boil it down to its essence. Saying nothing.
Starting point is 00:52:49 And you look at it. You have to ask yourself, why? And then before that, you say, how? And it's like, what the fuck? But yeah, I think, again, these things are set up because the media is just so hungry for ratings that it's like, well, look, people love how messy it gets. Let's just do that. And that's where they benefit. I fear it makes me dumber because then I sit there and the whole time the only thing I'm thinking is who yells at their staffers the most after this.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Sure, sure, sure. That's all I can think. I'm like, I wonder if. Hey, that's why you got to go to PeteForAmerica.com. Shameless plug. Just go to, you know, that's, that's why you got to go to PeteForAmerica.com. Shameless plug. Just go to... You know, that's why I think it's important to read their websites too. And you just got to read it for yourself and then go from there.
Starting point is 00:53:34 She seems like she... That's like all I do. Then I'm like, oh my gosh. I've just wasted my hour being like, I wonder if Amy really did throw that binder. If anything, I'm like, I want Amy Klobuchar in my corner during a bar fight. Yeah. I just feel like I'm not,
Starting point is 00:53:49 I feel almost more useless afterward and lost. I think that's how most people are looking at these debates, especially when there's no substantive or any questions around climate change and shit like that. It's like, what the fuck was this about, y'all?
Starting point is 00:54:03 Of the race, though. Well, let me just say this. Okay. It's not a sizz the fuck was this about, y'all? Of the race, though. Well, let me just say this. Okay. It's not a sizzling, glamorous issue, but the shape of our democracy is the issue that affects every other issue. Uh-huh. That was the Pete Buttigieg quote.
Starting point is 00:54:16 Oh, and then that tweet, right? I could say that same thing about my butt. Yeah, that's true. The shape of my booty. The shape of my booty is the issue that affects all other issues. And by other issues, I mean like the men who are looking at it. But that's where I get to at these debates. You're not telling me anything, so I'm out here like acting a fool.
Starting point is 00:54:39 It definitely seems like it's of a part with the overall mainstream media coverage that is like assume everyone is an idiot yeah yeah and also never articulate what the stakes are for people right never never it's all just about uh crafting a media narrative 100 and what's going to craft a media narrative and what the media narrative is and who's winning in the media narrative and whoa this person came out maybe they're going to start winning in the media narrative, and whoa, this person came out, maybe they're going to start winning in the media narrative. Could you start winning in the media narrative? Explain that to us.
Starting point is 00:55:08 Not how many people's lives are at stake with any marginalized group, not with anything to do with people's ability to support their families or live a respectable life. It's just all fucking empty. And anyway, just this Pete tweet that went down. During the debate he said i am not looking forward to a scenario where it comes down to donald trump with his
Starting point is 00:55:31 nostalgia for the social order of the 1950s and bernie sanders with the nostalgia for the revolutionary politics of the 1960s then that so you know how on the debate stage somehow everybody's tweeting in real time you're like motherfucker are you on your phone right but his staff then immediately tweets out they sort of they switch the language said we can't afford a scenario where it comes down to donald trump with his nostalgia for the social order of the 50s and bernie sanders with his nostalgia for the revolutionary politics of the 1960s now in the thing he was speaking yes like referencing these attacks on sanders inability to take like the hook, line and sinker,
Starting point is 00:56:07 like U S government narrative of how bad other countries are. Right. Cause he's being a little bit sober at, he's like, uh, how, how can we don't talk about the regime change that we're responsible for in this country?
Starting point is 00:56:17 Like, and people were like, Whoa, okay. That's pretty radical. People like, we'll call out Guatemala, Iran,
Starting point is 00:56:23 Chile, like on a debate stage and say like yeah we also need to look inward too here yes um and anyway but most people like when they saw that tweet they were like hold up dude this guy this the radical the revolutionary politics of the 60s like the civil rights movement or like the stonewall riots that happened in 1969 i think a lot of people immediately took that as holy shit like this guy is so disconnected i i think he is disconnected don't get me wrong but like it immediately the takes that came underneath that tweet the campaign was like oh fuck fuck yeah yeah but underlines how out of like you don't think
Starting point is 00:56:59 the cops who were beating people at stonewall or during the civil rights movement were calling them commies like they were definitely calling them commies and being like why don't you go back to cuba with fucking castro asshole like it's i think it's all part of the same like it's all part of a piece he's attacking bernie sanders's politics the same way that the people who were fighting for change in the 60s were attacked it's just that now we don't really have that like we don't because we look back at the civil rights movement and you know the gay rights movement as a overall good thing now like that's not how it was viewed back then back then like martin luther king jr was viewed as a dangerous radical by the fbi and
Starting point is 00:57:43 like as a communist like they called him a communist the problem when any kind of movement like this happens especially in this country people do not like having a moment where they have to become self-aware right or reflect on what might actually be happening in their own country so if someone is telling you you know a u.s foreign policy bad right it's like what do you mean no i'm not and i don't want to engage in that so like fuck you like don't don't try and like bring other people up either the irony too is like you know for all the for all the shit a lot of these people were saying about cuba it's like you know how many of them are talking about uh guantanamo and uh prison
Starting point is 00:58:19 torture uh facility that we have on that right island. Actually, I went down into a bit of a Cuba hole last night. I was curious. I truly was. I don't know much about Cuba. I've never been. I always have the most propagandist idea of it because I live in America and I watch movies and television, so I have no
Starting point is 00:58:40 sense of anything other than Instagram photos of everyone being like, old cars! Being like, wow! Double tap. I have no sense of anything other than Instagram photos of everyone being like, old cars! Me being like, wow! Double tap, you know, like I have no sense of it. Yeah, sure. Is it 8 or 7? It opens with Dom in 8. Oh yeah, he races that old Chevy, I believe.
Starting point is 00:58:55 And he's just like a mythical hero to the people of Cuba. Yeah, so I don't... Okay, so I got into a hole of tweets. I don't know if any of this is true. I was just curious. But I'm curious if you guys have any thoughts on this. But this one guy.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Havana, ooh la la. Yeah, I'm going to sing that song. Patrick Brock tweeted, Cuba has a lung cancer vaccine we in the US had no access to because we sanctioned Cuba. And then Cuba eliminated HIV transmission from mother to child. And then Cuba has a literacy rate of nearly 98% now that they've also like subsidized their food rations to make sure no one goes hungry. And I don't know how much I like don't know how much of that is true. But I'm curious, like, is that like, does that sound right?
Starting point is 00:59:38 I don't know. Is that what Cuba is? We just don't know. Yeah, people are literate there. what Cuba is we just don't know yeah people are literate there uh okay yeah I mean I think even on the other side of the spectrum like the U.S. has a policy of like trying to systematically make people less educated here uh-huh and as a result you see what happens when people are less aware of things and they can't read as much to learn more things a thing that's also missing from a lot of the discussion about Cuba are like the crippling sanctions that were put on the
Starting point is 01:00:04 country that's always missing like you talk about's always missing. Like you talk about Iran, you talk about Venezuela, you talk about other places that the sanctions part is always missing. Like, can you believe what's going on over there? Oh, yeah. Like we're doing something to like actively trying to destabilize like those regions. And I think the other thing is, too, the U.s had like loves to meddle in places where the people of a country are striding to ask for a fair fight so like even when you go as far back as like iran and like the oil that was there and the interests of the fossil fuel companies that were like we're gonna pump your oil but we'll take 80 of the profits and you get 20 and they're like nah nah nah nah this is our oil like we need a bigger cut. Then they start going, uh, hi, uh, Kermit Roosevelt, can you come here and sort this
Starting point is 01:00:49 guy out and maybe put in somebody who will actually like split this money that's going to favor these companies. Like that's sort of the background to a lot of these things. And I think, um, you know, whatever your opinions are on a lot of these governments or however they're operating, I think before anyone wants to act like an expert on another country, please take an objective view of what our country does first. Right. I think you need to operate from there. Don't get, look, please learn about as much as you can.
Starting point is 01:01:17 But really, if you want to engage sincerely, please look at what the United States foreign policy history is, what its policy has been against working people and things like that. And then you can begin to sort of like look at that, look at the context of the U.S. and their place in like a larger historical context. Yeah. To begin sort of having a good faith argument about anything. It's so fascinating. I truly, I feel bad that I had no real sense of Cuba.
Starting point is 01:01:43 And last night in my deep hole, I was like, where are we? I mean, the lung cancer thing is like there's a story about this guy who had stage four lung cancer and had to break the law because he couldn't get this lung cancer vaccine anywhere except Cuba. But it was illegal for him to go to Cuba. But it was in this leftist zine called USA Today. So I don't know if we can trust that. I did find a WHO, World Health Organization article about the stopping the transfer of syphilis and HIV from mother to child. But that's about as far as I got for that. I mean, I was just curious because I read that tweet and I was like, I don't know what is what anymore.
Starting point is 01:02:22 So I need more. I need more i need more well very narrowly if you just go from like how the sort of official u.s view on it is it's just sort of like cuba bad right across the board like and i think you can never speak in absolutes about anything like it's it's it's just dangerous that they have that we definitely would not want and there are things that they have that uh we would want and i think the things that they have that we would want are generally completely removed from the narrative right or even if like you know people say like oh you know soviet union bad or whatever but like completely missed the part where like they're like women were encouraged to be
Starting point is 01:02:59 involved in the like sciences right early and like there was no gender divide it's like not like everybody everybody's pitching in everybody should learn something but yeah again i think it's whenever we begin to speak in absolutes in general it's it's not it becomes harmful yes uh all right we we got to take a quick break before we get to the real issue that is facing us which is the lingering effects of the super bowll halftime show. So we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. I've been thinking about you.
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Starting point is 01:07:45 The FCC has received 1,312 complaints from viewers who had something to say about the halftime show. You know, that might just seem like a silly thing to pay attention to. It's like, well, a single comment section with 1,312 comments is not like something that's going to change the news. Especially when like 100 million people watch yeah but that is generally how like programming decisions had been made in the past like letters to the FCC would cause the FCC to you know bear down on one of the networks so I mean granted it doesn't seem like an efficient way to make decisions it is how decisions have been made in the past um so yeah i don't i don't know how that compares to the janet jackson uh nipple gate scenario that uh caused you know a huge crackdown but it does seem like significant enough to make
Starting point is 01:08:42 waves at the fcc which is significant enough to make waves at the FCC, which is significant enough to make waves across the pop culture landscape. Yeah, I mean, just some of these complaints, they're coming from planets I've not discovered yet. They're so out there. One woman said from Utah, I had to send my children out of the room so they weren't exposed to something
Starting point is 01:09:03 they should not have seen. Okay, I understand that. How about this one? It was TV 14. to send my children out of the room so they weren't exposed to something they should not have seen. Okay. That's, I understand now. Yeah. How about this one? It was TV 14. So it was, if your children were under 14, yeah, just keep an eye out. That makes sense.
Starting point is 01:09:18 And a listener or a viewer in Washington complained, however, I was not prepared to explain to my 11 year old daughter why Jennifer Lopez was dressed so scantily or why she kept grabbing her crotch. My daughter was asking if she was feeling sick from having so much skin showing that is absurd because that is what every pops those outfits are the most common outfits between all pop stars where those sort of like leo like the women of color oh you're right sorry no you're right you're right my bad my bad shakira was doing sexy tongue stuff oh Oh, yeah. Reducing that to like, no, no, no. Even Taylor Swift dresses like that at her shows.
Starting point is 01:09:48 That's the pop star aesthetic. It's beautiful, shimmery, some fringe. Candy, does she have a canker sore? Why is she doing that with her tongue? Oh, no. That's how all pop stars dress. Again, this is probably from the most shocked conservative people. Obviously, if you're still in your letter-writing phase
Starting point is 01:10:06 of this outrage campaign, then this is bad. And also, if your daughter is saying that to you, she's probably being dishonest. Or you do that just to game your parent. Like, am I feeling sick because it's so sexy? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I know that. I definitely acted like I was more naive
Starting point is 01:10:21 and a better person than I was to my parents. There was another one. What are you teaching young girls, a Wisconsin viewer said. Dance around half naked to make men excited, then claim hashtag Me Too for harassment? Yep. It's okay to be some sexual being and shake your naked rear end and expose your crotch and dance on a pole in front of the world? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:40 Right. Yeah. That halftime show invalidated the Me Too movement. Yeah. But even then... Not again. But it shows you how people are looking at
Starting point is 01:10:48 even what this sort of societal moment is. It's not just like, Me Too is a thing where we're finally being honest that women are making guys go wacky and assault them. And so we need them to chill out
Starting point is 01:11:01 and we need women to be less tempting. Yeah. And then we can reach homeostasis. Yeah, you can't expect men to not sexually assault people we need them to chill out and we need women to be less tempting. Yeah. And then we can reach homeostasis. Yeah. You can't expect men to not sexually assault people when that happens, when you have halftime shows like that. There is another one.
Starting point is 01:11:13 No wonder there is sex trafficking when you call this family entertainment. Yep. And where's the Me Too women? Do you not see the hypocrisy of what? Of a group of women exercising agency over their bodies? Mm-hmm. Not again. Yeah. Grrr. Hypocrisy? Of what? Of a group of women exercising agency over their bodies? Not again. So, I mean, you know, it's got to be exhausting.
Starting point is 01:11:38 But as most people said, that was a pretty good halftime show. Yeah, it was fun. I liked it. Yeah. That was great. It's really wonderful to see, like, two women of color. One of the first times I watched all the way through. Yeah. That was great.
Starting point is 01:11:42 It's really wonderful to see like two women of color. One of the first times I watched all the way through. Yeah, it was like really, really nice to watch them really like get it, if you will. Like I loved it. And I tried to dance just like them
Starting point is 01:11:55 in front of my TV and threw my back out. And I kicked my T.O. That's my FCC complaint. I'm like, I threw my back out trying to be them. I thought I could use this correct. What does the Me Too movement
Starting point is 01:12:04 have to say about that? Well, Anna, it's been a pleasure. We always have you here, but it's been a pleasure having you on mic. He finally let me talk. Just joking. I go out of my way not to speak. I'm such a lazy person. Where can people find you, follow you, hear you, all that stuff?
Starting point is 01:12:24 Follow me around town uh just joking um i'm at anna hosnier a-n-n-a-h-o-s-s-n-i-e-h on twitter i have two podcasts i host ethnically ambiguous i host that with shereen yunez and then i also host deckheads with nick turner about the below deck reality show on bravo i don't know what I was about to say. So check those out if you like pure joy and absolute nonsense. And is there a tweet or some other work of social media
Starting point is 01:12:54 you've been enjoying? Yes. So there's a really funny video out right now that I retweeted. Well, there's two. The internet man. From Matt Lieb. He tweeted, Biden's two the internet man from matt leap at matt leap he tweeted biden's motto is definitely vote for someone else which i thought was funny and then there was another um video that at rachel underscore conrad posted that said for the love of God, unmute this. And it's an otter trying to eat a cell phone,
Starting point is 01:13:27 but they put it to the tune of George Michael's, crap, what is this song? It's like, da, da, da, da, da, da, da. Oh, right. Careless Whisper. Careless Whisper, sorry, I couldn't remember. I apologize. I only know the MIDI tune from my old ringback.
Starting point is 01:13:43 But okay. And then another one is this, at Kimmy Monte tweeted, this dog literally failed every single test thrown at him to become a service dog. And I'm screaming laughing. In my opinion, he's still a very good boy. And watch the video. This dog is just, I don't know why they keep trying. He just has no interest.
Starting point is 01:14:02 He's just, at every part. He's just like yeah whatever it's not even that like everything he does it he does everything but he just does it in a way that just it's so half-assed like they like have him pull like you know pull open the fridge like the little knobs to help pull open the fridge and he pulls the whole fridge over like it's like every little thing he does he like kind of fucks it up. Just a total fucker. Yeah, he just goes a little too far, just doesn't get it. And it's so funny. And I really love to see a fun dog living his best life.
Starting point is 01:14:31 Yeah. And just being like, I guess I'm not meant to be a service animal. But also just doing it with such pure joy. Yeah. I mean, not like a dog is being like, oh, you're fucking this up right now. But it's just sort of like, huh? OK. I'm dog.
Starting point is 01:14:44 So go check those out. I tweeted them both on my feed if you want to go find them. Miles, where can people find you, follow you? You can find me Twitter, Instagram, at Miles of Grey, and also on my other podcast, 420 Day Fiance, with the homie, Sophie Alexandra, where we talk about 90 Day Fiance. Hi.
Starting point is 01:15:05 Some tweets I like. Reductress. Typical. This one is just a woman with her hand over her mouth in disbelief out on the street. It says, edible, not working.
Starting point is 01:15:16 Snails are battle slugs. Oh my God. And another one that says, how to sexily lounge in his t-shirt that says, friend of the pod. That's incredible. Some tweets I've been enjoying.
Starting point is 01:15:33 Kayla Kamari tweeted in fourth grade for a science project. I rewrote the lyrics to oops. I did it again to be about the types of rocks. And at the beginning where it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:43 I was like, rah, rah, rah rah rocks uh steve agee a couple couple parent tweets for you steve agee tweeted dear people in your teens 20s stop befriending people or else you're gonna end up spending every weekend of your adult life at birthday parties that is is way too good. And then Best Call tweeted, not sure if this is what Twitter is for, but does anyone want to come over and watch my baby so my husband and I can take a quick nap?
Starting point is 01:16:13 No Nazis, please. I would love to do that. What? Not watch her babies. Just randomly send them to that same group? Hey! Anyways, you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien, and I will ask you to watch my kids.
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Starting point is 01:16:43 Miles, before you do that, I'd like to actually propose another myth. Dog nannies. Why'd those goddamn cartoons make you believe dogs could take care of your kids? Oh, like when they would dress like a St. Bernard. Yeah, they'd be like, that's the nanny. Yeah. Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 01:16:58 I mean, the continuation of those cartoons is CPS taking their children. Oh, I guess we don't see. I haven't seen that one. Yeah, they suppressed those cartoons. You should get a dog nanny. Yeah, we don't talk about our five-year-old who we tried that out on. Didn't go so well.
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