The Daily Zeitgeist - NRA Blames Doors and Ritalin, Royal Wedding Beer Pong 5.21.18

Episode Date: May 21, 2018

In episode 152, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Jamie Loftus to discuss the Santa Fe Texas Shooting and how Ollie North (new NRA President), Dan Patrick (Lt. Governor of Texas) and more want to blame video games, movies, abortion, Ritalin and NOT guns for gun violence, Donald Trump getting cold feet in regards to North Korea and China, Mueller / Trump Investigation continues to accelerate both sides In opposite directions, The Royal Wedding of Prince Harry and Ms. Meghan Markle, and More! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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and then started watching the Great British Baking Show, courtesy of an underrated from one of our guests, who I think it was Teresa Lee? Maybe. It was someone who was just saying, if you want to escape the chaos of our world, just watch the nicest show. Everyone's so nice.

That sounds like Teresa. They just hug the shit out of the people who they have just kicked off the show. Right. And for us as a... Oh, you're going to be great. Competition reality shows, you're used to like, they needed help. And I said, fuck off.

So they would lose. And here, they're so willing to help each other. Anyway. They're like, actually, I am sort of here to make friends. Right, yeah. And I am thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Oh, hello. It's Monday.

It's Miles Gray, a.k.a. Happy Birthday to A.N.N.A. Hosniye. That's right. Soup Purdue, Anna Hosniye, or Anna if you're Jack or her family, is celebrating her 19th birthday today. And, you know, shout out to you. Live your best life out there.

It looks like you're having a good time in Seattle on your Instagram. Yeah. Doing some obscure golf tournament that you'll have to explain to me when I see you in person. Is she a golfer? No. I think this is just like a fun joke gag thing because clearly there was no golf going on and just drinking. Okay. Yeah.

But, hey, Anna, if you're listening, and I know you're not because she's working every day, happy birthday. And, yo, send some love Anna's way. It's her birthday. And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the all-time greats. No, if not the. The all-time great podcast guest and one of the funniest stand-up comedians I've ever seen in person. She is Jamie Lofton. Hi.

Hey. What's up? What's up? I'm good. I'm good. It's Loftus. Hi. Hey. What's up? What's up? I'm good. I'm good. It's like, it's crummy out. I love it. Yeah.

I know. Yeah. I like it. Overcast. There's like a little mist. There were some people in town from England that I met over the weekend and they were really disappointed that they were like, the weather is technically actually better in London right now than in LA and we're really bummed about it.

It's like, well, look, it's earth. I'm like amping myself up today. I'm wearing like all my favorite clothing items to just like pull up the vibe. Yeah. And it's working. You got the Booyah. Booyah tee. My Booyah shirt.

I got my Ted Kaczynski sweatshirt. Yeah. Unabomber sweatshirt. That you wore to, I think you said jury duty once? I wore to jury duty. They did not like it. No. It's a straight up standard Harvard sweatshirt with the Unabomber drawing underneath it because

Harvard literally created the Unabomber. If you don't know the origin story of that, there was a brutal psychological study that they did on Harvard students back in 1959, Ted Kaczynski's freshman year. And basically what they did. 16 years old. Yeah. They basically asked them to explain their sort of philosophy on life and their views on the world. Ted Kaczynski was this like really, you know, sheltered 16 year old who was just like being around people for the first time, just this brilliant

prodigy. And then the object of the experiment was to, they had Harvard law students then tear their arguments apart and just basically destroy their whole world and then bring them back and show them a video of their world being destroyed over and over again and then measure their stress levels. And they specifically have in their notes, wow, this one person was completely off the charts in terms of how anxious this made him. And it was Ted Kaczynski, Harvard. Thank you very much. How is that a study? You're like, come in and and we're just going to read you down to filth. Right.

And your whole worldview. You'll come out of here feeling that you're just meaningless. Yeah. And you're 16. The story of the guy who designed the study is crazy. He's just straight up supervillain. Oh, wow. Yeah.

Shout out to Harvard. Yeah. Good work, Harvard. Or when people, whenever you meet people who go to Harvard, they never say they go to Harvard. They went to Harvard. I went to school in Boston. Boston. Yeah. Oh, really? Where Or when people, whenever you meet people who go to Harvard, they never say they go to Harvard. They went to Harvard. I went to school in Boston. Oh, really? Where? It's like a school in Cambridge. Always a red flag, yeah,

when I'm like, oh, I'm from Boston. They're like, oh, I went to school there. It's like, stay away. Stay away! Yeah. Just don't ask any further questions. It'll drive them fucking crazy. Although, you know, I got some Harvard homies. They're chill. No, they're great. There's a group of them. But then there's also, I guess there's like two, I don't know how many Harvard alums I interact with, but I've met distinct groups.

Like, they're the kind who are real coy about it and the people are like, look, I went to Harvard. Look, it's not a big deal. Okay, let's. But then there's like the reverse people who like straight up didn't go to Harvard, but they use the same inflection to say they went to school in Boston. And then they went to BU. They're like, I went to school in Boston.

Yeah. And I'm like, oh, where? They're like, Suffolk University. Yikes, pretty embarrassing for you. You're just as in debt as a Harvard grad. But it still sucks. Super producer Nick Stumpf has a theory that people who went to Harvard never

listen to a single thing that you say. Like, if you have a conversation with them, it's just like, as you are talking, they're just thinking of the next thing they're going to say. It's such a great theory. Oh, so they turn into Handsome Dan from Wayne's World 2. Wait, Handsome Dan? I used to have, I used to have, wait, are you serious? Is Handsome Dan the name of a fictional character? Yeah. Handsome Dan is the radio DJ that in Wayne's World 2, when they go to promote Wayne's stock, they first go in and they think they're meeting handsome dan and it's actually ted

whatever his name is from uh married with children they think he's handsome dan he's actually the guy who screams and then they get in the studio and it's gross hairy sheer i yeah i there was a dj at my college and that i had a huge crush on who went by Handsome Dan and I thought it was his idea and I had such a big crush on Handsome Dan and I changed my major and I got a radio degree. No! You did? Because no wonder you're such a podcast legend.

You are classically trained in the art of radio. If I hadn't had a crush on Handsome Dan. And part of the mystique of Handsome Dan was like, what a brilliant name that he just ripped off from Wayne's World 2. I literally thought, I was like, wow, he's so confident. Was there also a guy who screamed, whose co-host just went, hey! Was that part of it too?

No, it was boring. Was he a handsome man named Dan? He was a handsome man for a radio DJ. Right, hey. Face for radio, huh? No, he was cute. He was a handsome man for a radio DJ. Right. Hey. Face for radio, huh? No, he was cute. He was my crush. And then I, like with many of my crushes, I just changed the direction of my life based on Handsome Dan.

Good reason as any, I say. Jamie. Yeah. What is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are as a human being? Well, just before you guys came downstairs, I was looking up uh because we record in a basement we were we are uh beneath a zumba studio right now right i looked up carney blog 2008 yeah because there was this i was thinking about it this morning there was this old blog i used to read when i was in high school of a carnival worker named Kevin who had just decided

to like leave the carnival forever and he would post on his blogspot account whenever he was on a greyhound bus that had wi-fi because I think he had like he must have had like a big clunky laptop because I'm pretty sure 2008 is pre-netbook but he had some way of posting and and he would post maybe once a month and then in october 2008 he posted the saddest thing i've ever read about a lost love of his and then went off the grid and you can't find anything about him now oh no i know did you find the blog i found the blog it's still up yeah so he's still like paying the server costs or i don't know a blog spot a blog spot i think is eternal oh okay i think it's just like a the server costs or? I don't know. Or is it like a blog spot kind of thing? A blog spot I think is eternal. Oh, okay.

I think it's just like a free account. Hell yeah, blog spot. Because like Google just owns it. A lot of websites though just, you know, like GeoCities and shit. Right. And a lot of places that people used to put up work have like gone down. Oh, yeah. My AngelFire website of just the rock gifts, gone.

Oh, my God. So it's still up, diaryofacarney.blogspot.com. I also looked up this weekend organ transport, like an organ instrument. Oh, okay. Because my great uncle hit me up. We talk about once a year. He's like, hey, I'm making my will. He's very old.

He's like, I'm making my will, and I'd like to give you my organ because you're my only calif you're my only relative in California I bet you got a lot of versus about a lot of things about carrying people's livers and boxes of ice yeah and then my conclusion was you're just gonna have to get a u-haul and then I'm gonna have to have an organ right uh which is so hopefully he never dies. Is it Hammond? B3? No, it's like a weird, it's kind of like a haunted looking organ. It's like an electronic.

It's made of infidel bone. It's a keyboard cat organ where my great uncle's basically blind and he purchased an organ. Oh, he's not an organist by trade? No. Oh. No, he just decided, you know. I like this even more. I'm old. I want an organist by trade? No. Oh. No, he just decided, you know, he's like, I'm old, I want an organ. I can't see the organ.

And so it's one of those organs where you can, it's like electronically programmed and you can press any button and it'll just start to play like a famous song. You can play your piano organ? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's dope. That's awesome. You should just incorporate that in your act and be like, now I'm going to play some organ, and you're going to look like a prolific organist. This goes out to Uncle Dick. Organs are notoriously difficult to move, aren't they? Yeah, they're gigantic.

Yeah. So, you know, hopefully Uncle Dick lives forever, and we don't have to deal with this organ. Yeah. This all has a very Teddy Perkins Atlanta episode vibe to it. You should watch that if you haven't. Alright, Jamie, what is something that is overrated?

Overrated because I haven't been here in a while. I will say overrated trying to negotiate detente with your enemies in real life because I was stood up by Swole Sauce about almost a month ago now. Yeah, last time you were about to possibly meet face to face with Swole Sauce and it

did not go down. No, he totally stood me up. He said he asked for the specific time, specific location. I was ready. Do you have comps for him? I have saved him a seat okay and i was telling people at the show there's this guy coming and his name is swole sauce and we have some business to discuss so if i don't like i was like so if i don't do any stand-up i apologize it might be more of a

dialogue tonight we don't know made this big deal of it. And he did not show. And then I messaged him like, swole sauce, what the fuck happened? That's my favorite text ever. And he was just like, sorry, couldn't do it. And then I blocked his ass. I think we just need to immortalize that bubble from your text conversation that you posted. I forget what he responded. Swole sauce, what the fuck? your text conversation that you posted where it just says what the fuck his response was like was really annoying because it was almost like self-mythologizing he was like you can't hold

down the sauce or something it was like it was like he had been listening and was in on the joke yeah i said swole sauce where the fuck were you? Swole sauce where the fuck were you? And he was just like, sorry, couldn't make it, blah, blah, blah. And then he's, oh, God. So, you know, trying to make good with someone who insulted you on the internet turns out not as good an idea as I originally thought. Right, yeah. Overrated. All right.

So despite what mental health professionals tell you, you should not go after people who say mean things about you on the internet and try and become better. I was really hoping to lift that stigma, and it turns out I was wrong. You should write a book about it. Embracing My Trolls by Yamiloftu. By Yamiloftu. What is something that is underrated? Underrated, I would say, is burying your pets.

Once they die, obviously. Oh, okay. Not while they're living. Okay. I buried my hamster this weekend after six months of leaving it in my freezer because I sort of forgot. I was going to say, like, when I saw you post about that, I thought it was another hamster that died, not the one that was just in cryo sleep. That's bleak. Yeah, no, it was hamster OG.

My roommate unfortunately found it in the decoy jack-in-the-box bag I had left it in. Thought it was leftovers. It was actually a corpse. You had a fucking hamster corpse? Wait, I mean, I knew it was in the freezer but i didn't realize you putting a fucking jack in the box bag so someone just thought oh jamie's is really holding on to this sourdough jack club sandwich yeah she can't let go you knew that your roommate would not approve of having a dead hamster and that's why you hid it in the yeah i didn't want

anyone to be like oh yeah there's a corpse next to our ice cream all the time. I can see how that's a reasonable fear. She was, I mean, and honestly, if I found, I would kick me out of the home, but she was very nice about it. She was just like, hey, is this yours? Of course, of all the. I was like, I was so close to saying no, but I said yes. You went, yes. yes like there's no way out of this one so i i buried it and i also yeah so i don't know i feel like a coyote's

probably eat dug it up and eating it by now wait i have a question did you just have just the hamster just in a paper bag or was it in another bag and then in a paper bag or you just should have just like put in this jack-in-the-box bag no i'm a tender pet owner okay i put the hamster in the ball sealed the ball put the ball in the jack-in-the-box bag folded it over like it was a cheeseburger or something and then launched it into the back of my freezer you didn't even like air seal the thing so it was i guess before it had a chance to decompose this did not This did not decompose even a little bit. Wow. So you feel like you now have closure

on your relationship with your hamster? Yeah, I do feel bad that I dug such a shallow grave, but I was busy that day. Wait, how shallow? How deep should a grave be? Technically, what's burying? If you just put dirt on it, it's buried, right? Well, I brought a tablespoon to the park in broad daylight,

and I dug, I would say, maybe an eight-inch hole, and then just rolled it in there, tapped. There was people on a date watching me like, this is really sad. I hope you were wearing your Unabomber shirt, too. So I don't know. I think that it was probably too shallow a grave. But again, I was busy that day so didn't really

have time to dig a full grave. Did you know real graves, like most graves are only four to five feet deep? What's with all this six feet under stuff? It's just... Overcompensating. Why is that? Three to four in some cases. I don't know.

Like a formal grave? Just as deep as they need to go, I guess. Oh, then maybe it's fine. Yeah. Oh, did you go three to four feet? No, no, no. I went eight inches, and then my spoon wasn't reaching much deeper than that. Let's say also underrated, shallow graves.

Mostly, we only talk about them when you're disposing of a body in the woods. Get your lie out. Yeah, but sometimes you just need a busy person on the move needs to dig a shallow grave. Are you a busy woman on the go? Are you a career woman? Don't waste your time digging a deep grave. Dig a shallow grave. It's just implied that you have dead things to get rid of.

Do it on the way to work. That's what I did. Jamie, what is something that's a myth that people think is true that based on experience you know to be false? Something that is a myth that I've been thinking about recently because my dad was arguing it on the phone the other day was that he thought snow plows had a greater cultural impact than zambonis. We sparred about this the other day on the phone. Wow. I know. Now, I guess because the snowplow does involve most people who have a commute

in areas where there's snowfall, correct? Right. Was that part of his argument, and zambonis limited to ice sports? His argument was more about the ubiquity of snowplows. And he's like, well, some people, things can't happen unless snowplows are doing their job. There's more death attached to the idea of a snowplow. There's more, you know, whatever. There's more characters in film based around snow.

For instance, snowplow guy from the movie Snow Day. based around, for instance, Snowplow Guy from the movie Snow Day. Right. But I would argue that Zambonis take the cape because they're iconic. They're a brand. Are they a brand? They are. Oh, I did not know that.

They're a family that live in California. Fucking, that's amazing. Isn't that wild? Invented by Frank Zamboni. Mr. Frank Zamboni. And it sounds like a joke, but the guy's name is Frank Zamboni. You know Leotard is the same deal? Really?

Named after the inventor of leotards. Oh, wow. I love it. Yeah, the Zamboni website rules. It says, accept no substitutes. It's like, you know what? No one's going to. Yeah, so I would always argue that Zamboni is...

You know what it is? When you go to Zamboni,amboni goes nothing else is even close it's even more aggressive even nothing is even fucking close there's only one zamboni and that's why i think it has greater cultural impact yeah despite what my dad says so the myth that snow plows are more culturally relevant busted i mean i'm sure there's probably a Simpsons episode about it because there was like the Mr. Plow Simpsons episode where it was about, you know. Anyway, look, we don't have to get into that. I'm triggered by a plow talk. I think, okay, so just going off of Google searches, snowplows, when you search snowplow, 35 million results.

When you search Zamboni. 6.9 million results. However, I would say that you can't compare something with such a utilitarian name as snowplow. That's just like what it is to the most fun word we have adopted from Italian.

That is the best word. That's like if you're saying like, well, if I look up the word person, I get a billion results. If I look up the name Jack O'Brien, I get far less. But, you know, there's more specific. But who's more impactful

than all people? Me or the human race? Me. Exactly. I love that metaphor and we're moving on. Alright, let's get into what people are thinking and talking about right now around the world and in America more specifically. At the end of last week, there was another shooting in Santa Fe High School in Texas. And yeah, we're just another round of the debate that is getting pretty. We're just another round of the debate that is getting pretty.

Yeah. It's just crazy. Like as I was just kind of writing about this up for us to talk about how like I was kind of taking a flippant angle or just I think it just speaks to sort of the exhaustion that we have that we're still just in this fucking cycle of shooting and then dumb ass finger pointing of anything but the fucking guns. Anything but that. Last time it was I don't even know what it was. The new talking point, it seemed like, on all the Sunday shows, because the NRA had to get all their people out to start spinning this recent shooting to be anything but the guns, seemed to be mostly video games and movies now, was like the, I guess, scapegoat du jour.

And Ritalin. And Ritalin, yeah. So I guess the first up. Ritalin was a new one. Yeah, Ollie North, who is the new NRA president and OG gun smuggler of America. He went on Fox and, yeah, blamed Ritalin and a bunch of others. Yeah, check out this explanation.

We're trying like the Dickens to treat the symptom without treating the disease. And the disease in this case isn't the Second Amendment. The disease is youngsters who are steeped in a culture of violence they've been drugged in many cases nearly all of these perpetrators are male and they're young teenagers in most cases and they've come through a culture where violence is commonplace what we need to do is turn on the TV, go to a movie. If you look at what has

happened to the young people, many of these young boys have been on Ritalin since they were in kindergarten. That's such a hard left on, like, it's like he even started, like, making a good point of, like, all these young shitters are male.

Right, that there could be a discussion about what toxic masculinity is and things like that. Right, but then it turns into a Ritalin. Well, later on he goes, well look, I'm not a doctor. I'm a Marine. So, blah blah blah. And it's almost like, well then don't fucking begin to speculate as to what

Ritalin has to do with any of this. So, anything but the guns. And then it seemed like this was kind of a theme because then the lieutenant governor of Texas, who, by the way, when he was lieutenant governor, was like in a real battle to fight against gender-neutral bathrooms. Side note, went on to blame,

I think now it's abortions in video games. So Ollie North was Ritalin in video games. And then this is the lieutenant governor of Texas. We have devalued life, whether it's through abortion, whether it's the breakup of families, through violent movies, and particularly violent video games, which now outsell movies and music. Psychologists and psychiatrists will tell you that students are desensitized to violence, may have lost empathy for their victims by watching

hours and hours of video violent games. Ninety-seven percent, George, of teenagers, according to psychiatrists and psychologists, watch video games, and 85 percent of those are violent games. And then, of course, George, we have our schools that are not hard targets. Okay. Is he the guy who then went on to blame the number of doors in the school? Yeah, he was like, there are too many points of entry. It should just be like a prison.

Yeah. The doors thing really puts into perspective how far they will go to blame literally everything other than guns. Yeah. And they're literally running out of new vantage points to like come at this issue without tackling the actual issue, which is why I feel like we're getting into like the B sides of shitty arguments with like Ritalin and then recycling old points. It's just, it's crazy. Yeah.

And also that theory that it's the media and video games. And George Stephanopoulos goes on to say well that media is available all around the world these video games are available all around the world yet this still seems to be a uniquely american problem isn't it an access to guns thing and he was like abortion like whatever uh so yes again uh blame everything but the guns and again if you want to come for people's video games then you'll see some people fucking go crazy my man don't come for the games right okay i'm telling you right now i love my games and i'm not these are not it's such a sort of dated idea too because this that video game media thing has been studied so hard because people want it to be video games so bad because people

it's the same way that when comic books came out, there was this governmental commission into comic books and how they were corrupting the youth. Well, now video games are the new thing. They wanted so bad for video games to be a cause of violence or cause people to be desensitized to violence. And statistics and studies have shown either that there's no correlation or that it's the exact opposite. And basically by keeping people who have violent urges in their homes doing violence on video games, you actually cut down on actual violence. It's been like a national initiative to get that opinion to take for so long. to get that opinion to take for so long. The last time I was home,

I found an essay that I had written in the fifth grade where it was like, we were studying in school why video games are bad for you. And here's what I learned. I was like, really? We've been doing this for like- Oh, like your teachers were having you write about that? Yeah, it must have been some unit that we were taught because I found an essay I wrote when I was 10

about why video games is bad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back. I'm Carrie champion.

And this is season four of naked sports where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on.

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you're not even in the red zone my guy uh so look the past few weeks he has been pumping up his own little pp talking about i'm the real peacemaker. I should get a Nobel Prize. You know, these guys are about to fully denuke because of me, blah, blah, blah. And now we're starting to get reports that Donald Trump is kind of starting to get cold feet because he's worried that this thing could turn into an embarrassment. And there are a couple of things to look at why this could possibly seem. Again, we talked about how dangerous it was for people with very fragile egos to meet up and begin to make concessions. So first of all, like, you know, when Mike Pompeo had his secret meetings, it seemed like the news came out of there was pretty good that North Korea was open to completely denuclearizing. And, you know, again, Donald Trump got that football out, started raising his arm.

Again, Donald Trump got that football out, started raising his arm. And then John Bolton went on TV and started saying buzzwords like Libya, which are on the no-no list when it comes to North Korea, because that is the exact scenario that Kim Jong-un wants to avoid. And then the North Korean chief negotiator was basically kind of making clear, like, yo, the idea of total denuclearization, probably not going to happen. So that worried Trump to the point that he called President Moon of South Korea and was like, but earlier he said he was going to do that. What's going on? And so that started to add a little bit to his nervousness, because also, as we've said before, that he is so thirsty for like a real political win, like one that even people on the left are like, you know what?

OK, maybe you did. Maybe you did pull that off. And just in general, he needs something to really hang his toupee on and he doesn't really have that. So now this is kind of getting a little bit more nervous because of the just desperate need for the optics of him being an effective leader. And then when you add to that also that he knows functionally fuck all about the North Korea nuclear program,

it's a little worrying too because there are a lot of aides writing about how he just doesn't really understand the complexities of the nuclear program and how that could hinder him when he's trying to actually negotiate things because there's things like uranium enrichment and plutonium reprocessing

and things like that, that are vital parts of like of making these kinds of deals. And, you know, meanwhile, he was like trying to take credit or just be like, oh, you know, well, they're going to close this one test site, you know, because of the pressure. That was like a site that had like literally collapsed under the sheer like nuclear testing induced earthquakes that was going on. So that really wasn't much of a win. So a lot of these are kind of coming together to sort of create a mood around the White House that Trump is sort of worried that he's not going to be able to do the thing where he flies in on a golden eagle to Singapore, tells Kim Jong-un, you know, hand over the keys to the nukes. And then he back being like okay america number one peace achieved level 500 leader uh achievement unlocked so i don't know we'll see what happens these again

these aren't things that he's like actually said oh we should cancel it but these are the grumblings and rumblings around the white house that he's increasingly kind of beginning he's starting to get a little insecure about the meeting well i think i think uh from his point of view the meeting will go you know he'll get there and he'll be like, OK, I will show you my pee pee. You show me your pee pee. Whoever has bigger pee pee wins the meeting. And maybe he's learning, getting some intel that someone has a bigger pee pee than him. Yeah. Or just knows how to actually negotiate because this is like all part of his thing.

My God, it's like the same thing with just as an aside is the trade war with China. Like he just announced that he's going to put the trade war quote on hold because like some not real concessions the Chinese made, they just sort of like sort of suggested that they may increase purchasing certain crops or whatever. And that was enough for Trump to be like, OK, let's put the trade war on hold. Meanwhile, the whole entire campaign, he was like, Oh, China is screwing us.

We are going to really hit them. We're going to punish them. And he has also just come like completely just sort of caved at the first sign of pressure or whatever. I don't know. We'll see what happens, but this seems like the trend of him being a Leon let in that fateful Super Bowl match where Don B comes behind him and strips the football from him before he can even get to the end zone.

Right. He's celebrating at the one yard line and gets the ball stripped. I feel like it's actually more like that kicker who jumped up to celebrate a like early season field goal and tore his MCL because because it's not it's he had a small success very early in the process and celebrated it and celebrated it so hard that he has now sort of fucked himself in terms of confidence. Also, just in terms of the leaking, because this is something that just comes up over and over again when it comes to the coverage of this White House. It's pretty remarkable that the people preparing him for a historic summit with North Korea are just talking open shit about him, being like, he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. He's scared about that. And he's's incompetent what the fuck are we gonna

do people who are siding with him seem to think that this is because there's some deep state conspiracy against him is is that more likely or is it more likely that he treats everyone around him like shit and everyone who is working with him sees up close how incompetent he is and are scared for the future of our country. No, that's exactly because the leaking is not a single person who has some agenda. The leaking is just everywhere. No matter where Trump is, someone's going to be like, uh, you're not gonna believe what the fuck this guy just said about. Exactly. you're not going to believe what the fuck this guy just said about this. Exactly.

Well, that just seems like long game thinking on everyone's part, too, because it's like you want – I mean, hopefully there's someone in the White House who has the better interest of people, although I'm not convinced that's true. But like a couple years on when the Trump thing is ideally behind us, they want to be able to be like, well, I said something. Look, remember when I leaked something? I said – Oh, that was you? Oh, wow. I'm not that bad. I'm complicit, well, I said something. Look, remember when I leaked something? I said- Oh, that was you?

Oh, well. I'm not that bad. I'm complicit, but I'm not bad. I was that anonymous source. Oh, yeah. I was source from this New York Times article. I feel like people are going to come back and claim that they were the source when this nightmare is fucking over.

Well, that's kind of like how those suspicious activity reports that Michael Avenatti got his hands on with Michael Cohen. That was was someone at the treasury department i think or sec i forget anyway someone there who was monitoring that gave it to him because he's like felt that some of the activity reports are being like suppressed and not coming out and they were like this is fucking bad and just was like here check this out so i feel like at many levels there are people who yeah who have been like lifelong servants of certain departments and are just like, this cannot stand.

Right. There was a article towards the end of last week. I think it was from the Washington Post. I need to find that and we'll put it in footnotes. But the journalist went and asked these people who are sources on the Trump White House, why do you leak and what is it like being a leaker in this White House? And it was interesting. The reasons they leak are basically what you would expect.

They're concerned for theics of the people they work with to cover their tracks to make it seem like they're not the leaker and that the other person might be the leaker. Wait, what? So they'll look at quotes from somebody and then use that voice, that voice essentially to give direct quotes to the White House. What a wild Adam Sandler-y approach to leaking information. I don't think they do an exact like, well, you know, I am. It's me, Mike Pence. It's me, Mr. Mike Pence.

I love you. Kelo! One of the podcasts I was listening to, I think it was the ringer weekly podcast with David Shoemaker, where they do a media deep dive. I think they were speculating that this could be somebody who realized they betrayed themselves with a leaking quote. And then we're like, yeah, I cover my bases by pretending to be that other guy.

Oh, right, right, right. Wasn't that genius? Yeah, yeah. God. So I don't know. It's an interesting time to do. Leak culture is fascinating. Weird hacker culture is fascinating.

I think that we should just, if you're leaking or you're hacking, just visually identify yourself by getting frosty tips and wearing tiny little sunglasses. It'll be way easier for us to break these stories. But the other amazing thing is that almost a lot of these people who are leaking have to have been put there by the president himself. And this is something that we're also seeing, and I want to move on briefly to the Mueller investigation. We keep seeing the conservative base sort of assuming that people who Trump has appointed, who were hired by him, given the job by him, are in a vast conspiracy to take him down for reasons that nobody is clear on. I think I've now heard that Mueller is out to get him because Mueller is friends with Comey and he wants to get

back at him for that. But it's not clear why Rosenstein is out to get him because Trump hired him and appointed him. Oh, you're saying the sort of conservative people are spinning that like these appointees are actually I thought you were saying that there is this concerted effort. they're having to formulate this, quote, deep state cover up. Right. That is this vast conspiracy that is all out to get him and coordinating to create this narrative. But Trump would have had to hire all these various conspirators on his own and like put them in place for that to be true.

Well, yeah, or they just have the complete disregard for the fact that, yeah, many of these people are in positions that were appointees or whatever or lifelong Republicans. So I guess it's at this point, you know, because the stories get worse and worse or just the smoke is getting more intense and the coincidences, if you want to call them coincidences, become more and more frequent. It's harder to imagine a version of events that is completely benign. This weekend, there were revelations that I assumed were going to take the entire country, both the 42% that approves of Trump and the 52% that disapproves of Trump in the direction of, well, let's see this Mueller thing out. Let's see this Mueller investigation out. But instead, out. Let's see this investigation out. But instead, it seems to be a case where things are continuing to every piece of evidence causes both sides to accelerate in the opposite direction. Right.

We've talked before about how this is one of the key ingredients for civil war is when you have two separate sides of the country and everything that each side hears takes them further and further apart. Right. And so this morning there was a huge op ed that is the number one trending article on the Hill. That is a former Democratic Party operative named Mark Penn, who is saying it's time to end the Mueller investigation. He basically lays out the argument that I've heard. The conservative argument is fairly consistent against the Mueller investigation, that it's this deep state thing, and that there was never evidence in the first place, and never evidence that anybody can point to in concrete terms. And the latest revelations of meetings at Trump Tower where Donald Trump Jr. opened the meeting with a Russian Kremlin operative by saying, I hear you have information

for us. That doesn't play into, doesn't add any fuel to the suspicion that something might be going on here. And now there's evidence of more conversations that happened at Trump Tower. This new meeting was between the guy who headed up Blackwater. Eric Prince, Betsy DeVos's brother. Eric Prince, the just shadiest dude in the world. Eric Prince, the just shadiest dude in the world, and an operative from the UAE and Saudi Arabia, this guy George Nader, and a social media expert for a firm which employed several Israeli former intelligence officers who specialized in collecting information and shaping opinion through social media. Which is a fancy way of describing social media manipulation campaign. Yes.

I literally can't keep all these people. We need like a guess who board for these people. I can't keep it straight. There's not enough red string. Right. And it's crazy because there's just this abundance of information that is like, well, that's clearly the behavior of a guilty person. Like, well, that's clearly the behavior of a guilty person. But anyways, so it is technically illegal for a campaign for a public office in America to work with foreign powers. Money, anything, yeah.

Foreign people, foreign money. And these conversations have people saying, you know. Y'all need some cash? people saying, you know, y'all need some cash, the social media expert being like, we will, here's our multimillion dollar proposal to help your father become president. Yeah. And just, because then he will allow us to continue the fuckery. Uh, yeah, because I'm sure it's a very clear choice. If you're like, do you want a world where Hillary Clinton is the president and is going to try and enforce things or some guy who's sleazy and can literally you can just pull up to Trump town and be like, hey, how much you need, man? Because let's work something out.

I do need the people who are, you know, the 52 percent who are critical of Trump to just be a little bit more focused, because I feel like you're hearing all of the information, just all these different stories. And for instance, there was a story a couple of weeks ago where a judge came after Mueller about Manafort and saying, how do you justify going after Manafort? It has nothing to do with the case. And that was the last I heard of that story. But apparently they explained their case to the judge and the judge was like, oh, okay, I get it. And they moved on from that. But that was a key piece of evidence. I think because the 42% that approve of Trump have fewer pieces of evidence. And so they like cling to them and use them more carefully. Whereas the people who actually think there might be something here

in the Mueller investigation are just burning through every new revelation like it's junk food. They are doing the homeland thing. They got their wall set up with all the red string. And yeah, I think on the other side for conservatives, if there aren't real indictments or things like that, they're not really paying attention to those kinds of developments because that's, again, just part of the noise of this witch hunt that they don't care about because nothing happened. You're at the Mueller cookout and you're serving up nothing burgers. And like then making too much noise around any single story always works because, yeah, like the 52 percent that are critical of Trump just get exhausted. Like if you scream in

someone's ear about some stuff that's relevant and some stuff that isn't for long enough, it's like, you just get, you know, like people, yeah, you get exhausted and,

uh, don't know. And if you're like me, you lose track of who's who, because there's a new name every two seconds. And there are people entering the story and people exiting. We can accept you to keep up. I mean,

you're, you're a woman on the go. You have to do quick, you know, shallow grave burials. You're too busy for this. I've got to dig a shallow grave on my way home. The revolving door of characters you have to keep track of is so complex and I understand why people

get exhausted, but it's also like yeah, that's what they want to happen. No, and I think I have too, especially like as we talk about it more and more and I sort of slowly have just adopted the mentality of kind of like, look, yes, let's investigate this. I can't put all all of this faith in this, that this is going to correct everything because I don't think it will. And also, I don't know if how much political will there is in D.C. to actually do anything to rein this president in. Right. At least not till the midterms. Yeah, I think it's partially that because there is less evidence on the side of the 42%,

they just have a single argument that they're relying on, and therefore it becomes more coherent, and it has the appearance of their argument being more disciplined, whereas the left's case is sort of constantly evolving because there's all this evidence and new stories piling in. I also think it has to do with the fact that we've brought up before on the show, the left doesn't have a single opinion-based outlet that is their clear and obvious mouthpiece the way that the right does in Fox News. The left is still led by journalistic institutions and journalistic institutions just have the mission statement of reporting facts, not coming up with a coherent argument one way or another. And I think that also keeps things somewhat scattered. Because I think also, I mean, even with MSNBC, obviously being the most left leaning, you'll get versions of it, but they don't quite venture into the world of fantasy like Fox does.

You know, it's very rah-rah Democrats on MSNBC that sometimes, you know, people like Lawrence O'Donnell completely overlook things, which whatever. But I think, yeah, I know what you mean. There's nothing there's nothing that's quite as aggressive as the sort of media machine on the right. It's a, yeah, it's, and it's a lose-lose because they're like oversimplifying stuff to the point of like fantasy and farce and craziness. And it's like, you don't want that for the left, but what is a way to present, you know, everything you need to know and filter out the noise. It's so hard to do. I think the only way to do it is

for everybody to listen to the Daily Zyka. Thank you. That's what we're here for, for just really unchecked information. But even on the side of MSNBC, even on the side of MSNBC, MSNBC is just another voice in this cacophony of different

sources that people on the left pay attention to, whereas the right, it's like the whole Republican Party has a very disciplined information architecture that is coming down from Fox News. And Fox News' loudest voice speaks to the president every night to decompress. And Fox News was started by Roger Ailes, who was a Republican political operative for Nixon and was like, there's room for me to create a political machine and make it a key player in politics. Well, I'm pretty sure our podcast is still bigger than the Fox News podcast. So we're on our way.

Yeah, we're gonna nail this. Yeah, Rush Limbaugh doesn't have shit on us. What are you saying? He's been in the room. He's been here the whole time. Guys, I'm high back here just nodding off. This show is just fucking hungry. Handfuls of

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on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And the big event of the weekend was, not surprisingly, the royal wedding. 29 million people in the U.S. alone watched it, even though it was, you know, 4 in the morning Pacific time. Damn, crazy. even my own mother got up at the crack of dawn to watch them what was her review of she texted me and was like i

posted on twitter she was like oh you're watching your birthday twins wedding he's losing his hair too my mom is a cold-blooded savage but you know what she made me a strong man because you know when you're just getting torn down like that every day by your own mother yeah honestly twitter they can't do anything to me when that's i get direct texts from my mother like that i mean she loves it i saw her yesterday and she's all about the pomp and circumstance and the fascinators were so fascinating to her and yeah then i also had my own moment of just sheer fear when she said, I'm just curious when I will get to go to my royal wedding, which was her putting pressure on me to get married. I was like, wow, mom. That's the first time she's ever done in my life.

Every time she's been so chill. She's never been like, you can live your life, blah, blah, blah. And I don't know what the fuck happened to my mom. She watched his royal wedding and was like, excuse you. When is my Royal Wedding? When will I wear a fascinator? I'm like, look, Mom, I'll get you one, and you can just go to Target wearing it, but there's going to be no Royal Wedding.

That is a very ambitious opening bid for what your wedding is going to be like. I was like, whoa. You got that kind of money, Mom? Yeah. Because we might do this at Emmanuel Lutheran Church If I can afford it Anyway I was awake for the royal wedding Jamie you were too

And you got up for it did you set an alarm I set an alarm I did it I set an alarm and then I watched And then I fell asleep and then I got back up And they were kissing It was nice I woke up for the best part I was awake because of my 11-week-old.

I won't lie. I did not do it out of loyalty to the Zeit gang, but I was up for it. I was thinking of saying allegiance to the crown. And the crown. But there were a couple things that I found amazing. One is that they actually do the if anyone present has any reason these two should not be married speak now thing in royal weddings which i've never been to a wedding where they did that and i thought that was really i thought that was like a rom-com thing no i mean i've been to

weddings where that at least ones where like the ceremony or is very non like uninventive or not creative i've heard it there unless i'm marrying you you, because I am a, I would say, I am an ordained minister. Wow. Yes, I do lit. You've married people before? Oh, yeah. Shout out to Chris and Shay.

Shout out to Brittany and Steve. You know, shout out to Amanda and her man. You know what I mean? You've done it three times? Oh, shout out to Mike and Julie. You know what I mean? Wow. Four times?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're all doing well. They're all doing well. They'll have children. You know what I mean? And I'm not going to say that I do it right. But yeah, I've only seen that at a sort of traditional wedding I went to when I was younger and then another one in Vegas.

And like a long pause too. Like just anyone? It's black. Harry's ex was there wearing black. Really? No, she was not. Yes. For real.

Yes, she was. And it was the sort of thing where she, I think at the time, he had proposed to her. And she was like, I don't want to be a member of the royal family. So she sort of like, she wanted to go to law school and have a life. And so they broke up and then he got with Meghan and it worked out. But she went to the wedding. And yeah, so I was hoping, hoping that I slept through that part. I have something to say.

Excuse me. Wait, so what would happen, I guess, in the procedural sense of a wedding, if someone did speak now and didn't forever hold their peace, does that mean you could be like, well, what did y'all think? Should we call it off? Whose decision? Would the priest be like, that's a good enough reason, guys. Sorry, I'm calling this

one to learn i'm sure someone will hit us on twitter like they were to correct us about many things that we got wrong or supposedly got wrong yeah apparently they the royal family doesn't get their money from taxes or something and there was an american princess before megan is not the first retractions said that uh so but yeah i don't So. Calm down, everybody. But I'm guessing like, in terms of, you know, like you were saying the best man

was literally there to fucking fight anybody off at the wedding. Yeah, like what the speak now thing was, like if there used to be, the audience had the power to like nullify the ceremony.

And realistically, it's like speak now or statistically wait a couple years and then find them on Tinder. You got a good chance there was the uh pretty amazing performance of stand by me by the kingdom choir it was very i don't know what was it about it just the choral arrangement of it just spoke to you or something

yeah it was i cried did you see this the choir part too? I had to go back in the highlights, but yeah. I watched it. I cried. Good song. The only thing I saw visually of the wedding were Posh and David Beckham looked like they were also at a funeral. The way they were dressed when they pulled up, I was like, yo, that's swag though.

I fuck with that. And also, what was it? Was it Pippa Middleton who everyone's saying flamed her, looked like the can of Arizona ice tea? Yes. That was also kind of amazing. But that's like one of those things where only, I think, an American who knows the Arizona can would have been like,

ooh, no, no, no, people, you don't want to do that. That's an Arizona can. You're dressing like the cheapest beverage possible. A 99-cent high-fructose corn syrup bomb. Yo, get it. Go to CVS on a good week and get two for one. Embarrassing. Embarrassing. Embarrassing.

There was also, what else? The Queen wore a light green skirt with coat and hat combo. What if she dressed like an Arnold Palmer can? I lost a thousand dollars on that. An Arnold Palmer. Just a photographic reprint of Arnold Palmer

smiling. Just on it. That would have been a wave. That's a specific mood, yeah. Who else did I care about that I even saw? Oh, one interesting thing that I read was that at one of the after parties, Serena Williams was wiping the floor with people at beer pong. Oh, that's awesome. Now, this was reported in The Sun.

So, again, like I say, take this with an entire can of Morton salt. But they were reporting that in the after party that, yes, she was wiping the floor. Now, the description of beer pong is one of my favorites. They were saying that – this is from The Sun. The bride's U.S. heritage was marked with a boozy American university drinking game, beer pong, where players throw table tennis balls into cups of beers which their opponents then have to consume. That is the most academic description of beer pong. And I just love that when we're like the shitty game of beer pong is written up in such an intelligent way.

This is what cultural appropriation feels like. They're taking our shitty cultural thing and, you know, looking down on it, but celebrating it in a way. This is what cultural appropriation feels like. They're taking our shitty cultural thing and looking down on it, but celebrating it in a way that's fun. That's articulating it pretty clearly. Do you think Serena was even busting the tricks? Like if the ball was spinning the cup, like going,

like blowing it out, or like blocking, or like bouncing, you know, whatever. Depends on if she called no blows, bro. Oh, yeah, right. And then she's like, all right, no no put that diamond bro

Can you put that into a diamond I'm triggered by how much you guys know about beer pong Truly truly Although my podcast co-host Caitlin Durante Is Maybe the best beer pong player I've ever seen in my entire life Really Yes she's so good

One of her many hidden talents I want to see this I'm terrible at beer pong So I want to see this. Because I love, yeah, I'm terrible beer pong. So I like to see when people are just like, they've just got the stroke down. It's always who you least expect, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like I would have never suspected

Serena Williams would be good at a athletic competitive thing. I know, I'm surprised. And then she also wrecked everybody in a game of informal soccer or football. Oh, really? No, I mean, I wouldn't expect, because she's just such a prolific athlete.

She can do anything, yeah. James Corden apparently started a dance-off that saw Charles, William, and Harry take to the dance floor. Do you think they caught it on camera? With Megan and her mother. What do you think they did? What song was it, I wonder?

Did they whip and nae nae? Oh, probably. James Corden's like, do you want to get in my car outside? Let's just do a quick segment. I'll fight James Corden and win! He's so generic, though, and unoffensive. Is it just the frequency at which you see him

that just angers you to your core? If I ever see James Corden near a pool, I'm pushing him in. I'm pushing him in. Wow. So blast that out right now, James Corden. If you see James Corden, it's ugly. Hope you're not near a pool. No, that's just like a personality trait that drives me insane.

I'm just like, here's someone who, if they are not seen or paid attention to for 45 seconds, will cause a scene. Like it's just like, hey, does anybody want to dance with me? He was like sort of informally dubbed like to be the emcee, right? Right. Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, it's not like, you know, they were like, oh, God, get the mic away from James. I think they're like, hey, my man, you're like the god of partying right now.

So help us out. James Corden, let's get the most British boring person we possibly can. And James Corden came in. He's like the god of partying right now, so help us out. James Corden. Let's get the most British boring person we possibly can. And James Corden came in. He's there. I just, I don't know. I don't know. British Seacrest, I'm not here for it. Precrest.

Yeah. Only thing worse is if Bill Murray trots in. I'm sure we will find out that he was there in secret, dressed as one of the servers. Just like jumped behind the bar and was bartending. Right. It was bartending. Right. Because it was so fun. And then every like worst person you knew in college would be like, oh my God, Bill Murray's a freaking God.

So epic. And you're just like, stop. Stop going to places you're not invited. George Clooney waltzed with both Kate and Megan. That's the only man who probably could have, you know, everybody would have been like, yo, George Clooney. Yeah.

You know, you're like, you're actually doing me a favor because this is my wife's dream was to dance with you. It's my dream to be with George Clooney at one point, too. He's so dreamy. He seems so tender. Do you think he seems tender? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And also, he's just living that life out in Italy all the time in in Lake Cuomo, or Lake Cuomo, or whatever it's called. Bellagio, if you will. The thing you have to understand about George, though, is he's a real prankster on the set. Does he have fun on the set? Oh, yeah. That's the word. That's the word around Hollywood.

Every time I see a movie, I'm like, but were they having fun on the set? Yeah. Yeah. Because that's what really matters. Have you seen the Wet Hot American Summer documentary? No. Yeah. When they did the re-release on Netflix, they also did a feature length,

not a feature length, but a pretty good documentary about the production of it. And you can tell that production was just party time. Prank City? Prank City, fun times. They were basically at camp together while they were shooting, and it seemed like they had a blast. Man, that does sound great on the other side of that coin uh caddyshack apparently was so like epic and outrageous yes i am that friend from college epic epic and outrageous freaking awesome movie

no uh behind bill a set that one of the producers was like they stopped the production sent him to rehab and he died of an overdose after almost immediately after the movie but everybody was just doing loads and loads of drugs am I right? wow usually I just drink

a lot of diet coke and then go home nah man you gotta do dangerous amounts of drugs. That's the only way. The secret to success. Jamie. It's been a pleasure having you. Thank you for having me. Where can people find you? You can find me on twitter.com

at Jamie Loftus Help and you can listen to my podcast, The Bechdel Cast with Caitlin Durante every Thursday. It is a wonderful podcast. What have you guys covered recently? Actually, we asked Caitlin that. She was our guest on Friday.

Oh, really? I bet your answer would be very similar. And also, a lot of people were really interested in this question, the way she answered. Do you and Caitlin actually hang a lot? Me and Caitlin? Yeah, like almost every day we hang. They were loving that because she was like, I asked Caitlin that about you too. She's like, oh, we hang.

Oh, that's sinister. Do we fucking hang? Are you serious? She threw everything off the desk. I planned the woman's goddamn surprise party. I know. That's why she was hung over on the cast the other day. Heard it was a Paddington theme.

It was, yeah, everyone was supposed to dress as Paddington. And we were in, I chose maybe the darkest bar possible. So I'm assuming everyone did. I don't know. It didn't really look. Wouldn't know, though. There were some red hats. Oh, okay.

That's all you need to know. And a duffel coat is another thing I learned. Piece of garment. That's basically the defining coat that Paddington wears. Why weren't people dressed as Paddington at the royal wedding? That is a question. Real marketing oversight. Because you didn't plan it.

That's true. Every party I plan, people are dressed as Pad a question. Real marketing oversight. Because you didn't plan it. That's true. Every party I plan, people are just as bad as me. Contact her for weddings, bar mitzvahs, quinceañeras, and debuts. Miles,

where can people find you? Oh, you can find me on Twitter and Instagram at milesofgreat. Great. You can find me at jack underscore o'brien

on Twitter. You can find us at daily zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at the daily zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes.

We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. That is going to do it for today. We also link off to the songs that we ride out on. Miles, what is that going to be? Okay. So, you know, I'm really in a jaded mood recently. And there's this one track on Common's Like Water for Chocolate called Heat. And when I first heard it, I was like, yo, I love this track.

It's got a really cool drum thing. Do a little digging. Find out what the sample is. It's actually a sample of the Tony Allen song called Asico. And Tony Allen is a drummer. He's a drummer for Fela Kuti. Just a really dope, just kind of jam song. So this is actually the original song by Tony Allen called Asico.

And, you know, if you're a drummer, you like rhythms and stuff, you'll like this track and just enjoy it. And if you want to hear this sample flipped in a track, check out Heat by Common. But this is Tony Allen, a sequel. Alright, we're going to ride out on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. Talk to you guys then. Thank you. Du rôde, assicot, assicot.

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Ndeye nkote, nkote Ndeye nkote, nkote Ndeye nkote, nkote ་༼༼༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༽༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱༱� I'm Carrie Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts.

The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hey, I'm Bruce Bozzi. On my podcast, Table for Two, we have unforgettable lunch after unforgettable lunch with the best guests you could possibly ask for. We'll see you next time. hilarious. Listen to Table for Two with Bruce Bozzi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, fam. I'm Simone Boyce. I'm Danielle Robay. And we're the hosts of The Bright Side, the podcast from Hello Sunshine that's guaranteed to light up your day. Check out our recent episode with Grammy Award-winning rapper Eve on motherhood and the music industry. No, it's a great, amazing, beautiful thing. There's moms in all industries,

very high stress industries that have kids all across this world. Why can't it be music as well? Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.

Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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