The Daily Zeitgeist - NYT = The Cops, Who’s Afraid Of Plane Masks? 4.14.22

Episode Date: April 14, 2022

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Give a little hello. How you doing to the ex-spouse day yep shout out give a little hello how you doing to the ex-spouse uh in your life i guess this sounds it sounds like you know how because all these things are made up by people right and it's just you can tell by the way this holiday is written it's by a haunted divorcee because it says very few marriages end amicably. Each year on April 14th, National Ex-Spouse Day encourages those who have dissolved a marriage

to forgive their former spouse and move beyond any anger or bitterness that may remain. And even those that do aren't free from angst or regrets.

Aaron. Yeah. Okay, I cheated on you with your sister, but like, have some forgiveness. First of all, like, very few marriages end amicably. Like, let's just start that out.

Like, don't behold me to some crazy made-up standard when I think there are only two successful marriages in the history of humankind. Yeah. kind so yeah well if you go back you say the person who created it reverend ronald coleman of kansas city created this holiday in 1987 as a way to dissolve the bitterness that is often associated with divorce in its inaugural year he handed out buttons that read i'm okay your history i'm okay your history yeah so it's for people probably for people who are holding on to the pain of a divorce got it okay although i like it from the perspective who... Probably for people who are holding on to the pain of a divorce. Got it. Although I like it from the perspective of you're the person who has guilt

from doing the other person wrong. You'd be like, you need to let it go. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it sounds like his heart was in the right place, but the way it's been co-opted. As things tend to be. The wording also sounds like we're celebrating the ex-spouse which are like yay

my ex-husband or wife or partner or whatever rather than like hey man let go of the pain day anyways shout out to uh bullshit holidays everywhere and this one in particular my name is jack o'brien aka you got the zeit one baby that's actually came uh while i was out last week and we we were just talking about pepsi uh diet pepsi and and that ad campaign but that came out last week right to me from at bohemian rap city spelled city spelled like city. City. City. Yeah. They spelled it like Citibank. So maybe this is a soft pitch for like Citibank to sponsor a revival of Rap City. I think it's coming back with Big Tig.

Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah, that's right. We had talked about that. I believe that there's something happening and we will see Big Tig back in it. Will they be doing freestyles in the basement like in its heyday? And will Citibank be involved? The question on all our minds.

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Is that a winding boulevard, Lankerson? Lankerson's pretty straight on. Pretty straight on. Would have been good if it was winding because of Hideo Noho's delivery. You know, North Hollywood like that, it's pretty gridded up. We have some fucking weird intersections, but nothing where it's like, what the fuck is that street up to? Well, Miles, we're thrilled to be joined by a hilarious writer, comedian, podcast host, one of the best followers on Twitter,

formerly the man behind House of Highlights, the founder of a creative studio, Follow Through, Podcast host, one of the best followers on Twitter, formerly the man behind House of Highlights, the founder of a creative studio, Follow Through, which makes Sneak This, and a bunch of funny shit, funny sports content. He's also got an upcoming NBA podcast with iHeart. What? And the NBA called Running the Break. It is the brilliant and talented C.J. Toledano!

C.J.! What is up? What is up, guys? What's up, Miles? called Running the Break. It is the brilliant and talented CJ Toledano! CJ! What is up? What is up, guys? What's up, man? We're thrilled to have you. Good, man. How are you? I'm good.

It's been a minute. We were just catching up before the call, or before the pod, and yeah. I'm always looking for the thing that is the marker that the pandemic is kind of over over it's never going to be fully over uh this is this is one of those i think except we're on zoom and not in a studio and yeah it's not over but uh it's great to see you guys it's great to see you did the last time we had you on was in person all right yeah yeah i think it was in person and the stories i thought

were dark and it just got darker and darker. Yeah, look at that. It tends to be this country. What's new with you, man? Anything? Not much is new, aside from a human being that we're going to be responsible for in the coming days. So, going to be a father with fellow former uh iheart podcast host megan gailey um so we're just reg yeah we're just uh we're getting ready for that very very excited i'm excited for megan to hopefully feel relief even though she says it's not gonna come for a while but um yeah

gonna be a father so that's that's primarily what i'm really excited for work stuff yeah staying busy yeah is that who who are we looking at behind you what's that what's that's primarily what i'm really excited for work stuff yeah staying busy yeah is that who who are we looking at behind you what's that what's that bull's jersey back there so this is uh we got a wizards um jordan alternate throwback it's a it's a washington bullets throwback but it's uh when with jordan with jordan yeah yeah awesome man all right we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things that we're talking about. I mean, right, come off? People are still real mad about masks on planes. I'm surprised that two weeks is the time frame they're talking about. That seems a little short for people who have to take multiple flights a day as part of air crews.

So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about Don Jr. We'll talk about just a little check-in with the copaganda of the past few days. So we're going to talk about Don Jr. We'll talk about just a little check in with a copaganda of the past few days. So we're going to talk about that plenty more. But first, CJ, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? Guys, I had a lot of fun with this because I just realized, and this isn't the first time, but I trying to find the longest iphone cord that like actually works it's a long iphone cord because i usually just type this into amazon but now i was like i gotta hit the internet streets i gotta go outside yeah that giant corporation and i gotta find the longest iphone cord because go mow a lawn with your phone plugged in it's like

because i just i'm a person who lets i don't know if you guys are like this but you let your phone die yeah and i just again i'm gonna be a father i can't be having that but also so when i'm home and i'm chilling i just need i can't be losing juice while i'm at home with some outlets nearby but i also need to move freely with it so trying to invest in the longest i've found that's worked for me has been 12 feet yeah i'd love to find something 2025 i think that would be a game changer okay you know be wild though is they make you know how like back in like the 80s and 90s people had that kitchen phone that had the long cord on it so you could fucking like take that

shit through half the house the winding one yeah it's like a bring that back as an iphone charger yes so you're like yo it coils back up it's right there if i need to fucking take it on the go i can that was like cord has like kind of completely gone away like what the what what is the pasta version the pasta equivalent equivalent of... I was going to say it's like a curly fry. Yeah, it's the curly fry of cords. And I feel like that was the basis of so many 80s movie scenes where it was a parent on the go

who had to run around to every room in their house while still being on a corded kitchen phone. Or like a great scene where it's a parent trying to get the kids out of the house while they're on the phone and everyone's like limboing around the cord and shit and it's like oh sorry and you get twisted up in it the scene ends where they run just too far and get yanked yeah yeah and it's like parenting is hard and then the phone goes in the oatmeal and you're like and the dog goes like this yeah but why do we think that like that was

a pretty efficient cord the fact i mean i guess it got tangled a lot but the fact that it could stretch but generally would like take up less space seems like a benefit like a good a beneficial design we have so many cords in our life i don't have a single one that is shaped like that well i could maybe because like a power chord it's hard to coil a power chord and like have it go through like that constant stress and then it probably gets fucked i don't know i'm playing engineer here for a second but yeah that's that could to me the only be the only reason right i just feel like we became anti-court over the last two decades. Yeah.

Like, we just, we ditched the basics, the core of it all. And it's like, just the spring recoil was great. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Well, look, Zeitgang, if you know where to get even a fucking 30-footer, hit CJ up. Because I'm with you. Like, I'm at that phase, too.

I'm like, i plant chargers around my house so like by my couch now i got a fucking 12 footer like just peeking out the cushion so if ever i'm on there i can be like fuck it i can charge right here open the freezer there's a charger right there oh yeah freezer under the sink i got one you know what i mean you never know yeah the the don't let your phone run out thing has been something that I've become religious about since having kids. Because first of all, like there's the obvious stuff. You don't want you want to be able to capture a precious moment. And you want to always have have your phone ready if there's like an emergency.

Or it's also like something that you don't hear as much is like there's a lot of downtime like especially in the early days like you are both like constantly doing something and also very bored a lot of the time so it's good to to have that thing there just in case you need to in case you need to scroll while the baby's dozing i spend probably on on average, since my kids were born, like two hours a day, like just waiting for them to fall asleep, just sitting next to them, them waking up. I'm bad at sleep training, but that's, you know, just waiting with them as they fall asleep. So you're not doing anything. I'm not neglecting them, but I, but you're like, let's be real. This isn't fun for me well

jack let me ask you this about being a new parent is there a lot of like is this normal googling um like yeah i feel like one of the biggest fears that every every new parent tells me is like they check and see if their kid is breathing every you know five seconds yeah which's really scary i still i still struggle with like yeah they like i i'm not a person who has like intrusive thoughts of like my own safety and stuff but with kid with our kids it's definitely a struggle and there's just weird weird stuff that comes out of their body yeah should my baby's head be spinning around you know should my baby's belly button be as big as their head yeah and purple good so i need my phone to be charged to google our youngest had a thing coming out of his belly button that was like well this can't be good like that that's that seems

like most of his body like that seems like that is most of his body weight is in there. And the doctor was like, nah, it'll go away. And we're like, there's no way this is fucking going away. This is his second child. Right. And then the body just swallowed it up as he grew. It was wild. Oh my God.

It just went away. You didn't throw it, like throw it away? We didn't actively watch it as it like sucked it in like linguine but right like you're like here it goes here it goes here it goes oh my god also uh just a an alternative if functionality is all you're looking for in the long cords is extension cords underrated you can always get can always get a 50-foot extension that you're just dragging around with you if you want it. Exactly. Trade orange, you know,

like you're on a construction site. Yeah, just right in the middle of your mid-century home, just a thick orange extension cord. They make it in white and black and, you know, brown. We need a wood grain. Yeah, wood grain. Yeah yeah these are my wood grain

have i talked about the time when we like i just moved to missouri and my wife wanted to like be eco-conscious and so and we had a yard like this was like our starter home in miss, Missouri. And everybody, no matter how small your yard was, had a riding lawnmower. And we bought an electric lawnmower that needed to be plugged in the whole time. And so that was a crash course in extension cords. I mowed through like three of them. And anytime I was out there, I looked like i was just doing some vacuuming because it was like such a slight lawn right and you have like you have one hand yeah i'm having the one hand on the cord doing it back and forth and like to the point that people would stop and like look at me and it was right they thought it was cute i mean yeah at that point

your gardening looks more like being like an on-court NBA cameraman. Where like, you got the camera and then you got the cord wrangler behind you. You're good, you're good, you're good, you're good. Doing a lot of whipping it around over to make sure there's not no way. Neighborhood kids are jump roping. Like, yeah, holding your arm real high. Keep it away and shit. Yeah.

What is something that you think is overrated? Seizure? I don't know if you guys are tick tock heads like myself and I might be old and this might be like late, but that Tom's diner cover, do you guys know this? Maybe I should have linked it. Yeah.

Which is a great song. And then these like two hosier wannabes come in and they do like this hiccup singing. And then it's become like the, you know, the process of TikTok songs, at least or sounds is like, hey, everyone who wants their video of a viral video with this awful cover behind it. And I just, and then I saw it. It's like on the Billboard charts or on the Spotify charts. And I just can't escape it. I can't even imagine trying to bring Hozier level, like earnestness to the, da that is supposed to be just like that they seem like they're at the opposite

ends of like intention from the artist from the vocalist definitely a take you know it's like you know it's like they're not gonna go viral covering it like the smooth I don't even know who the original artist is.

So, yeah, they bring in their raspy voice, and you're like, oh, okay, this is jarring. And then some people were like, it's so jarring, I like it. And I should put a trick shot video to the sound of this. Here, hold on. Let's listen to it really quick so we have an idea of it. Justin, I'd imagine we're not going to put it in the show but just for our reference here all right so i just don't know if they're serious all right we're back we just listened to it oh i am sitting in the morning, at the time, on the corner. And it feels it all the way.

Like, what the fuck is Tom Waits and shit coming in? Yeah. The original feels like it is, like the artist is disappearing. Like that feels like that's what that song is about. That artist is disappearing from the boredom of the situation. And that cover is being like fucking look at me right now feel my emotions watch me take liberties with this melodic like it sounds like a coffee house Open mic prank

Like everyone is just trying to mind their own business And the person's like I'm going to turn this place Upside down It's just all of the Phlegm from his stomach The reaction of the other patrons In the coffee shop

They're like oh okay I can have a little trumpet That's okay Then it starts I other patrons in the coffee shop they're like oh okay i can a little trumpet that's okay and they're like oh and then it starts i am sick in the morning they're like what the fuck and then you get hit with that yeah i'm i'm like this is this coffee shop has gone downhill tom's diner what happened to you yeah it's funny i was just talking to uh producer becca the other day i was at the fucking liquor store do you ever see this shit where people start bumping tiktok tunes out their car like it's fucking you know the summer of 02 and where the party at with jagged eggs just came out yeah like that's the shit i see right now i was at the liquor store this woman bought i'm not joking like 13 mini shooters of flavored vodka got in her honda uh her honda crv rolled the windows down to start playing that

one track from tiktok that goes you want to bamba that one she was blasting you want a bamba out her fucking car let that shit cook and then slow motioned out of the parking lot like we were like oh there she goes drink it in wow that's um you want to bomb so and is the song starting right where the tiktok like videos start using it or has she gone and done the research found the song and is just like playing the song that's my question like she's playing the actual track okay yeah like almost like oh yeah like i fuck with this but like she had the vibe of someone who like by osmosis kept hearing it because someone else is using tiktok or she's so tiktok brained like i've fallen into that shit too or like i'm like i really like this song and then i'm listening to it very quietly in my air

pods uh what is something you think is underrated cj this one might just be me but uh the fly on the wall podcast and i don't want to promote other podcasts and other networks but david spade and dana let's just cut this off man hold on get this other network out of here snl nostalgia and history the podcast is here for that david spade dana carvey they just talk about snl and and we're like losing some some big comedians i feel like in the last few months and so i'm like we're really cherishing hearing uh david spade talk about behind the scenes of joe dirt and so it's truly my one escape and i'm like recommending it to everyone and i love that not many people are really enjoying the recommendation but um uh yeah i just i'm finding it a lot of fun to listen to so that's my underrated selection for today that's do we ever talk about the development team on this podcast miles because that's one that

i think we knew about a while back before it launched and i was like yo this is gonna be great like listen to these two dudes talk to each other is a lot of fun yeah i mean and that's just such a good format because like some things just don't have like the kind of like director's commentary or something you'd like on the dvd or some shit like i would listen to like an oral history of like in living color you know what i mean? Imagine that shit. Well, that's... So if you guys passed on this, the In Living Color one is some...

You guys got to get a move on on it. Yeah. Keenan! Keenan! I don't think we passed on it as did not have the budget. Financial might. Uh-huh. But worth it.

Have you learned anything? it because i i kind of like i've read the live from new york and all you know the oral histories and used to like basically listen to podcasts like a genre of podcast was like listening to comedians tell stories about their snl tryouts yeah Basically for a while there. So, I mean, just the, I like hearing more about like SNL character movies are such a thing of the

past. Um, and there were like attempts that were, you know, more recent than we recall or like knew about. So like even today that the bill hater episode dropped and, um, hearing like the possibility of like a Stefan movie movie would have been incredible but then like then dana carvey started talking about the hans

and franz movie and like they're all the biggest uh hurdle for all these is that like yeah you take hans and franz out of a gym it does not work you take stefan behind like they're like milaney and hater were saying that stefan didn't work as sketch. It only could be at the update desk. But that's how we all know the success of these characters and taglines. Like, can Lorne make a movie of it? And for the most part, no. Because, like, even the ones that came out, no one liked. Even though I loved the Ladies' Man movie.

I did, too. It's so funny. Because that hit DVD when I was, like, a freshman in college. And that was heavy rotation, as was Night at the Roxbury. Yep. And then, I mean, the movie, I think it might be the movie that most shouldn't have worked. And the gap between how well it should have worked and how well it does work. The, the largest might be MacGruber. I'm personally a big fan of that movie.

Well, that has such a specific like perspective, even for it to be like a really condensed kind of quick sketch. Like you knew how to put like extend that. Whereas like to your point about Stefan, like that was more of a bit between Mulaney and Bill Hader to get him to crack at the desk. And that was like the fun of it.

We were also kind of witnessing. So it's a little bit hard to like transpose that too. Yeah. Like MacGruber was able to, if they like had decided in, in general, let's make a really good action movie parody, you know,

and like they were able to do that. Plus a lot of very sketchy elements, but like Stefan, it's like, well, I guess, yeah. What,

what sort of format can you can you use um to to carry out 90 minutes and i don't know right the yeah i mean mcgruber the sketch though let's remember was making fun of a single trope from the show macgyver yes that like no other show really used that much and then it was just it was the same shit over and over like and that was the joke and then they turned that into like the best kind of over-the-top parody of an action movie i think of their time personally but yeah i mean who who knows but that's that's amazing that they tried to make a stefan movie i i would have liked to have seen what they came up with yo would you watch a 90 minute him just saying this place has everything and he goes all right let's take a quick break. We'll be right back.

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And they are reacting like children have been told like that they have to, I don't know that, that their birthday has been delayed by two weeks. Like it's just, it's never going to come off then. What the fuck? Like I, my quote, like the, my response to two more weeks is wait how the fuck is there going to ever be like a busy travel industry with flight crews

flying multiple times a day jammed into a small tube with people not wearing masks like how how is that gonna work and we have two weeks to figure that out but everybody else's response seems to be like you're fucking kidding me guys i i want to look at the bright spot of this and it means two more weeks of people being taped to their chair like that it got it got so crazy like these karen videos that and like airline people or like flight attendants or whatever having to fight people by taping them to their chair and taping their mouth shut like we've gotten to that and that's okay yeah and so yeah and like i'm never not gonna wear a mask on

a flight yeah me too same i i like not get it not being sick every time i get off a plane yeah in my mind the mask can come off when therapeutic drugs are so good that like if the second you have COVID, you can just go get like Tylenol COVID. And then it's like it's really like that. But until then, like I really it's really difficult to like feel safe knowing like especially on a plane, you know, you're i get that the air is circulated and like transmission rates are not super high on airplanes and shit like that but it like i guess the positive to cj's point is i'm looking forward to three weeks from now because then maybe we don't need them anymore is that the deal when they say all right two more weeks okay right then it'll be figured out by the third week. Like, huh?

They got this. They got this. That's the implication here, which I like. But I guess it's an AP article is saying the mask mandate is the most visible vestige of government restrictions to control the pandemic. There's been a slight increase in cases in recent weeks driven by this new strain. in recent weeks driven by this new strain. And because most positive tests are at-home tests, we don't know how many people are testing positive.

So the numbers aren't going up. The only time we're going to know how severe this wave is is when people start dying in a couple weeks and, hey, maybe we should wait for that. And the majority response seems to be like no the masks are fucking chin diapers fuck you okay and like what uh man people have too much energy uh and they're putting in the wrong fucking place. I'll tell you that. Well, speaking of energy in the wrong place, let's talk about Donald Trump Jr. Yeah. What's going on with this man?

I feel like every week we get these coup text leaks. You know, oh, guess who was telling Mark Meadows about QAnon this week? Or guess who was begging him to fucking overturn the election? or guess who was begging him to fucking overturn the election well last week we got just like the such clear like even more clear evidence as if like existing between november 2020 and january 6th wasn't enough to be like they are fucking they're trying to do some shit we we have now we got the fucking receipt so even if that matters because i think most people are like what's the doj doing here uh but the recent drop has to do with Mark Meadows. And this time, though, he was getting messages from the president's oldest son, Key Bumps.

So Key Bumps is texting him. This is two days after the election. Key Bumps is texting Mark Meadows saying this is this is exactly what the text says. Quote, It's very simple. We have multiple paths. We control them all. We have operational control, total leverage, moral high ground. POTUS must start second term now.

That's what he's texting. That's like just making, like he feels like he is in a position to order, like, the apparatus of the U.S. government. Right. Or he's like that friend when you before you go out to the club and he's too fucked up on drugs or alcohol. And he's like, yeah, man, we don't go in there and we don't get these bitches, man. And then we're going to party with them. And you're like, OK, man, thank you. Just please take that energy somewhere else. That's not reflecting the reality of the situation. Let's be real. We're going to sit in this room and then complain about life by ourselves as single men. But now this plan that we see that he had, quote unquote, we saw it all happen, right? The primary

goal was to sow chaos and swing states and lean on the secretaries of state to not certify the results or try to get their own slate of sham electors, which we saw like in Arizona, where like these group of Republicans are like, we are the real people certifying, certifying the election. And the courts are like, please get the fuck out of here. And since that didn't work, we saw what plan there's, you know, step two was, or their fallback fallback plan was, which was to try and get the Congress to nullify the results and get Pence to, you know, do the thing that he couldn't do. So honestly, this doesn't sound like people who really believed that the election was being stolen and they were acting out of, like,

righteous morality to try and, like, fight this off. It's all clear here. They're using burner phones. This guy's like, we control everything. Total leverage. We can make it all happen. We have multiple paths. We control them all.

I just didn't try. I mean, I'm not following this too closely, but didn't Trump a few weeks ago admit that the election wasn't stolen? And then like everyone sort of didn't care, like was like, cool. And then now I feel like he got bored of like looking sane for a minute. And then it's now back to this. I feel like if he had said that, that would have been, I don't know, nothing he says is really that much of news anymore. Aside from like when he's like just trying to be like, this is the best candidate for this state.

But I mean, it's clear that he's he's trying to figure out what the fuck to do, too. Because meanwhile, you also hear him. He's like begging Ron DeSantis to not run for president and low key being like, it'd be great if you could announce you're not going to run against me and then I'll endorse you. How about that? Donald Trump senior? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not key bumps. Donald Trump senior is out here like begging DeSantis to be like, let's do some tit for tat, which will be interesting how that plays out because it'll, you know, you'd love to see DeSantis and Trump just rip each other apart and see who comes out.

But either way, we're looking at a very, very stinky situation. And the wild part is, despite those texts, Key Bump's lawyer is saying, look, quote, after the election, Don Jr. received numerous messages from supporters and others. Given the date, this message likely originated from someone else and was forwarded. So this is essentially a soft affluenza defense, right? Oh, yeah. This is, Your Honor. People were saying stuff to him.

You just got to understand. He's just repeating what he heard and he's a real dipshit your honor my client who is a fucking angel child from heaven there's no way that could have been his eight ball or whatever it's called of cocaine in the car it must have been in there from a previous occupant now can we go to the golf course you're on or we're gonna lose our tea time right like it's like you like it really does have that like let me just say this you'll agree and we can move on but a lot of people have pointed out though like this main story about these texts was a story that was breaking from the new york times but they put that shit all the way back on

page a15 whereas like you know many people are like i remember hillary's emails being like above the fold on the front page but you got this guy out here being like we got all the fucking paths man and control the leverage bro like let's fucking do this and a15 but anyway the new york times stays L's. Is there any scenario on the horizon where like this investigation prevents him from running again in 2024? Like what have people talked about? Like what? So let's say just they keep finding like just closets full of smoking guns like this, just like opening doors and getting like buried by smoking guns like it's fucking scooby-doo cartoon what is like the best case scenario for the future of democracy uh my god that's a hard one to know i mean i'm sure if he's like actually indicted and convicted

that yeah i just think he's like we saw during his presidency like he was so absurdly committing so many like crimes or like you know impeachment whatnot but like the these rules are so loosely written and they have just all the money in the world to hire these weird ass lawyers that they will find a path to run and it's just like it it makes me feel like this whole thing is like all this stuff is fake all these structures are like and it's just it's a dark it's a dark thought or like path i go down in my brain yeah it's it's hard right because there's nothing that constitutionally bars someone even if they're convicted you could run for president from jail yeah technically you know what i mean so the other thing people say is like the 14th amendment maybe because that's the same thing they were trying to

get madison cawthorne on which is like yo if you were fucking around and like because you know that's all after the civil war being like yo if you're fucking around an insurrection you can't hold office that's disqualifying that is more clear in its wording. But again, I'm not a legal scholar or constitutional scholar, but from my understanding, there aren's kind of in on a scam on some level within some, you know, vertical or silo of the government. So we're not good at actually being able to like legally keep people out of office unless like you know there's a real concerted effort from most people in dc i feel like there's so many things where we went from like i think i think the you know new york times reading public and new york times reading and believing public went in the last 10 years from like it can't happen here to like, it could happen here. Just like so many different things could happen here and probably more easily than in most other countries.

Right. Well, yeah. And they're demographic, you know, I mean, like you look at the people who are the people who support the times, you know, because they went more to like a subscription based model for their business. It's the same kind of kind of person. Yeah. subscription-based model for their business it's the same kind of kind of person yeah who's like a well-to-do or like people someone earning a decent living who's liberal living in a city and so it's just kind of running away and like and you see how they're trying to bring younger people in like that's why they bought wordle or they bought the athletic and trying to be like yo we do other

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But it's just too crazy. Then we just started talking about how we need to talk about it. So there's an LAPD thing. We'll get to the – it's just a copaganda update. There's a bunch of good shit being done by Alec Karakatsanis on the New York Times and how their coverage of the subway shooting just really, they used that as a way to feed into all these bullshit propaganda narratives. But we wanted to today talk specifically about this LAPD story that dropped just yesterday, warning residents that 17 gangs are sending out crews to conduct follow- robberies and the only source they cite

and like this is a crime that is definitely happening in la yeah in the in the past six months i've heard of or you hear about it however juxtapose that with the overall statistic that crime is going down crime is going down yes that's that down. Yes. That's, that's, you know, and I think that's the thing we want. Like, I think Alec points out really well in his thread. He's like, even, even if you,

these things are reported, it's still adding to this fucking myth that the crime, crime rates are going up when we're experiencing fucking lows. Yeah. Anyway, the only source they say for the, like, this is a major problem side of the story is an LAPD task force that presented this narrative at a press conference.

And it is clearly politically motivated. And, like, they just call out the progressives by name. They call out a unconvicted person that they've arrested by name being like this person's been arrested like three times and they keep you know the da keeps putting them back out on the street but i just want to talk about the specific examples of the crimes that they are talking about because Because the strategy here, and the strategy has been in LA for the past, I'd say, three months, four months,

has been to get the ultra, ultra wealthy scared. That's so that they continue to push progressives out of politics and bring in your Ricks, Caruso, and these people who are real estate developers who can just make la more of a place where you can get rich essentially don't fuck my money up party yeah so they talk about one guy who's arrested on gun charges let go because they didn't have shit on him other than him having a gun still haven't hasn't been charged they reveal his full name and his crimes are he's tied to this these crimes where they're robbing people who are wearing watches or carrying property worth more than the average american's annual salary oh and 2x the median income which is 35 000 i'm just going to read directly adams

according to moore was involved in eight separate follow-off robberies over a six-month period starting last fall including one in which two ucla students were robbed of two watches that could have been me to watch it okay just wait for this part okay and then let me know if this could have been you was it two watches worth nearly 145 000 fuck out of here why yeah students how why are you in college if you are able to wear a watch that yeah worth that much exactly like fuck out of here bro like i know how you're in college. Yeah. Because your resume on the water polo team was fucking lit, even though you've never been in a pool before. So this is a tale. Now, again, this is a crime. I understand that.

It's a robbery. But what we know this in the culture is just getting got. Yes. There is a most death song about this very specific thing that says come on now uh what'd you expect got a month's paycheck dangling off your neck that's right because people are rubbing their mints looking at you another line is mr fashion that style never lasts long the harder you flash harder you get flashed on and that was a month's salary a month's salary i don't know anybody who makes 145 i know he has to update that what'd you expect got a person's

nine years worth of salary dangling off your neck i mean that's a fucking you're you look you look like a mark maybe they're on their way to pay for their tuition with it like they're on their way to pay for their tuition with it. Like they were on their way to the admissions office and being like, hey, we just want to jazz up this really sour experience of paying six-figure college tuition. So here's our change worth that much. Right. Just here, take that. I mean, they got spotted at a club, right? Wasn't that where it started so it was 145 where two watches worth nearly 145 000 after leaving a club a second in which two foreign tourists were robbed of watches worth 73 000 and a third in which 51 000 in property was stolen so my question is are they

talking about this because they want the ultra wealthy to get scared and right oh get rick caruso elected or you know get gas gone out of out of like the the progressives out of politics that sort of thing which seems to already be the movement or are they talking about this because these are the only crimes that they've actually addressed because they only address crimes that affect the ultra, ultra wealthy would be my question. And I get it. Wealthy people should be scared.

You just want to wear your bust down Audemars to fucking the pet co. And now you got people waving in your face. This town isn't fun anymore, Miles. This town isn't fun. I have to get a driver and a security guard to drive me around. That was the literal quote from a lady in an L.A. magazine article.

It's becoming Brazil, to be honest. I'm pretty soon going to have to just take a helicopter everywhere because the streets are so fucking dangerous. Yeah. L.A. Oh, I mean, we can get to L.A. magazine. That place has completely fucking embarrassed itself i follow them motherfuckers on instagram every story they put out they put when they're like gavin newsom hangs out with russian oligarchs and shit and you read the story like has nothing really to do with any of that shit and all they do are talk about these crime stories which again are all there to ignore the

basic fact first right that most crime is near historic lows in the country and also that crime like across academic disciplines crime like the consensus is crime is caused by inequality it is not caused by a lack of police or more police, which seems to be the only argument being presented in The New York Times and The L.A. Times on these stories. It is fucking wild. It is unbelievable. the only perspective that is being presented in like what is seen by most people as like the the major like the all the news that's fit to print and it shows you man if you if you repeat shit enough it becomes fact just despite the fact like we're saying crime is down but you keep saying oh this look at all the shoplifting oh blah blah don't talk about why people even steal shit. Right. You know what I mean? People don't steal shit because they have everything either. But and even sociologists like

the way we stave off fascism is through like addressing inequality. But it's very like taking advantage of the clickbait. Like it's clickbait, right? Almost like, hey, here's a direct correlation. We need more guns and we need that money to pay for guns and more cops and like we're gonna keep like you you scare rich people what do they do they go and buy more security systems and they like we need more police yeah surrounding our neighborhoods and it's like but read past the headline read like go search for it elsewhere from your like notifications you're getting from like you know these very very like clickbaity type sites and and it's just it's unfortunate that it hasn't worked in the last two decades why not try something else why not look just a little bit further that we need to

stop funding the cops right it's and i can't it's not journalism if you don't ask multifaceted you have a multifaceted approach to something like this. If you're just asking the police commissioner what their take is, it's going to lead them to, as Alec was pointing out, write shit like they're writing shit in the New York Times or they're trying to say that because 4000 people were arrested in March, that there were declines in shooting incidences in January and February. that there were declines in shooting incidences in january and february yeah that was that is an argument that was linked off to like so they some they summarize it as like a surge of arrests has led to like so the the new york times like long it's laundered into something that sounds reasonable and new york timesy in the text of the new york times but then they're linking off to an article that basically makes the claim that a decline of nine homicides in march or sorry in january and february was the result of arrests made in march yeah and let me and let me explain

that because this guy was like man i'm gonna fucking i'm gonna use my gun today actually you know what nah because i'm gonna get arrested in a couple of weeks. So let me put let me put the let me put violence away today. What are what's how how are we supposed to process that? Yeah. And it's the you know, America is spending money on policing and on the caging of human beings at unprecedented levels in the history of the world. And we don't have unprecedentedly low crime. Our crime is low

compared to where it was in the 90s. It's not unprecedentedly low compared to other countries that don't spend this much on policing and don't have, like, truly historic, like, by historic standards, like, this is what the United States is going to be viewed as, like, thousands of years from now. They'll be like, oh, that was that. Well, bro, the planet is going to be fucked. Right. Well, you know, there will still be. The ashes that the aliens...

Yeah, the aliens. They'll be like, oh, that was a society that caged their humans. Like, that is what is noteworthy about the United States. They didn't see the fundamental sickness of their culture that they invest more in carceral and death-generating technologies than the well-being of their own people and then were curious as things began to degrade hmm weird fuck anyway i mean i get we might as well talk about the new york times side of it because the there was a shooting in the

brooklyn subways right and the new york times quickly made that a thing. So the headline started as several people shot in Brooklyn subway station. Those are the facts. It was quickly revised to shooting in subway station heightens simmering fears about public safety becomes an article where they talk about Eric Adams, the new mayor defending a return to broken window policing which that hasn't been debunked right has been thoroughly thoroughly repeatedly debunked the lead article on the shooting did not mention that the u.s is an outlier in the availability of guns or poverty or inequality or lack of mental health care or that the new york the nypd had just added more cops to the subways just because those would seem to be the relevant facts yeah which a shooting happens did they mention that like there weren't a lot of death or there wasn't like any deaths because people like new york citizens were applying tourniquets to the victims like where were the cops saving anyone it was just like well i can't believe this happened the cops just deployed our radios don't work sorry it's like oh no new york citizens

are saving each other in these situations because we're all like no longer able to depend on, on the police. So we all have to have our plans in place. Right. Ourselves. Yeah. And I think, I mean, if anything, that only hurts the police when people realize that on their own,

you know, when they're like, Oh yeah, y'all really don't do shit at all for us. You know, like I get, sometimes people feel safe when they see that squad car or something and they feel sketched out or something,

but that's not actually, that's not But that's not how we derive our safety. That's not the source of our stability as people at all. Like, I've been in movie theaters where there's a police officer or security guard, right, when you go to a movie on a big weekend or whatever. And I never go to and like, hey, that cop's going to save me. I look at that exit and like, how fast can I run out of there if anything? Right, right. Yeah. You know, that's my instinct now right anyways the yeah it really does seem like i don't know a concerted effort i don't i'm still of course yeah but like is it is the

thing driving this the fact that the paper like is involved in some like backrooms deals is it just that they depend on the police as sourcing and yes like the if it bleeds the leads dynamic like makes it so that is their most important source like that makes sense to me but this is it like it to this point that has always been my explanation like the media media, the police are, you know, in a handshake deal. And like that is why we get basically the police digest in our papers and on the local news. But this like feels concerted, like this feels like they're getting editorial guidance. concerted like this feels like they're getting editorial like guidance right and i think really just it all boils down to the fact that people will not stand up to the police ever mayors can't do it polit like no elected official can do it so how the fuck is a newspaper gonna do it and i get

that like it starts off with this sort of like, you know, mutually beneficial relationship or like, give me a scoop. I'll write your skewed version of this reality. But I think now it's like almost like reflexive, like they're so they're such a habit to not really examine what the role of like policing or the waste of money is that it's like, I just will default right to. Yep, yep, yep. We'll go with whatever you got. And I think the other hard part about it is when you have, just in general, a lot of people who are ascending

to like journalism in these places, they're not as connected with the reality of like what working people, like people in poverty, what life is like. If that, you know, I think they just view it as like, yeah, because poverty is chaotic, that it's like, and then these people, then these people are so it's just you don't know what's going on out there. And we don't really need to examine that further to understand human beings. We'll just take it from the perspective of more carceral technology, more spending, more prison. And that's the solution yeah they led their story about the shooting with saying that the shooting is reminiscent of a string of other incidents in recent years and they don't say which they don't say hey up to you reader trying to shoehorn it into a trend when the thing that is noteworthy is that this is not a you know

thing that happens very often right yeah zoom out more you know like ask why we have so many people who are you know in terrible situations whether they have lack of mental health support end up becoming a doomsday prophet on youtube where they're like talking all kinds of wild shit and you're like i was just not enough cops not enough cops raising these kids also you should be given a gun at the turnstile and heading into the subway you know straight up jesus yeah well we'll see we'll see what happens we'll see what kind of genius solutions we see coming off after this. Because now a lot of people, especially on like New York Twitters, you hear everyone's talking about like, oh, now they got cops everywhere in the subway. Like, even when they're there, it wasn't working.

And it's weird because a lot of the tone from people does feel they're like, what the fuck is this all for? Yeah. You know, we have all you couldn't it took you this long to catch them for the these three specific cameras stopped working with all this fucking 10 like nearly 11 billion dollar budget all right cj before we let you go though i want to i do want to hear a little bit about what running the break what like and just nba fashion from your perspective like where are we are we at a high point like obviously the high point is like larry bird and his clothing but like

oh yeah it's mostly going to be larry bird and um and josh giddy um the modern day larry bird no i mean it's like we've seen in the last few years how nba and sports coverage has gone past the x's and o's and the wins and losses um so and into like the league fits and the hey what you know the tunnel entrances and like coverage begins when a player is walking out of their bus or their car and walking into the arena from russell westbrook to kyle kuzma to uh shy gillis alex, like those guys. And so we kind of thought, you know, there hasn't been daily coverage of that in like the trends and sort of like the trend watch and what's going on off the court.

So running the break is sort of your weekly coverage, co-hosted by Alex Wong, who is a really great NBA journalist out of Toronto, wrote the book cover story. But yeah, we're sort of adding that dedication and commitment to that sort of pop culture and fashion and trend coverage to the NBA. Nice. Beautiful. Is there a trend that you're excited about? Is there a dread, like somebody whose fits are like extra dope, like that's new to the

league? That's new to the league. I mean, you know, I'm trying to think who i really like who's on the come up you know who do we need because we know the main the heavy hitters we see him every time one way this guy is like very close to being at the top of the list jordan clarkson i mean i have like a little bit of a uh a bias towards him because he's half filipino but like i really think in in fashion in general skinny jeans do not wear skinny jeans anymore. But like, and so Jordan Clarkson has just like very much very baggy and like almost

just like extreme norm core to, you know, just, I think he was just recently wearing the Camel Joe windbreaker. Like, do you guys remember the Camel Joe sort of swag and merch from back in the day where people would collect like the, the camel points? Yeah. The camel bucks off of cigarette boxes and they were making like legitimate merch yeah he's been kind of like i think he's like built a collection of this stuff and so yeah i mean i know myself as like a vintage streetwear collector i went on depop and ebay and

started looking for that stuff so i think he's he's uh there's guys who can sort of like dress well and i think that's like sort of dictated by a lot of fashion people out there. But like Jordan Clarkson is a guy who I think is sort of like leading those movements. I think Russell Westbrook has like led those moments and movements. And PJ Tucker in terms of the type of sneakers

and it's just not like the most expensive stuff. It's, you know, what's the story behind some of these pieces? And I hope like, you know, run the break behind some of these pieces and right i hope like you know run the break we can kind of just get super super in depth on stuff like that yeah that's dope i mean also you know i don't i every single one of my filipino friends they weren't caught slipping out here with fashion so i'm like yeah what's jaylen how's jaylen green's fashion he feels he

seems he doesn't seem like he's taking big swings but he dresses all right he's getting getting there i mean the funniest thing about jalen green's fashion and and i think we'll get into this like the business aspect of it is that he signed with adidas but he's clearly a guy who like loves air forces and dunks and so now he has to wear these bape shoes that are are essentially air force yeah babes is like air force bootlegs and knockoffs. Right. It's a trend that I really love. These young players were clearly Nike heads growing up. But then they went with money.

They're like, oh, man, I love leaning sportswear, man. Yeah. So honored to be rocking their shoe. Yeah. So it's fun seeing these guys just try to like figure out how to how to keep repping that stuff so yeah i think it's going to be episodes like that covering covering the silly and and not so serious but with that sort of very like in-depth focus right analysis yeah nice man oh jaylen's wearing off-white ones in this old picture jaylen hurry up that better be pre-deal. Pre-deal.

All right. Well, such a pleasure having you. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Yeah, at CJ Toledano on Twitter. At Follow Through LA is the company. And then, yeah, I'm hosting. I mean, this comes out on the 14th today. So I'm hosting NBA Twitter Live for TNT on their Twitterba on tnt on friday for the play-in finals and then yeah and then watch out for this little baby

monster that megan and i are creating right now yeah congrats man that's cool man the the plan's been super exciting yeah the first two we were last night as we record this and those are both really fun games yeah okay glad the wolves are in glad yeah me too patrick beverly breaking in that not like pre-playoff that's how you know the playoffs are about to be great that patrick beverly is like creating storylines not even the postseason just yet yeah right is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying um let's see here i i dropped a link in there it's just classic sort of shit posting it was i mean i hate to it's almost like reading back someone's joke but i think it was pretty boy navi how do they know an animal is extinct like or how do you how do they know an

animal is extinct like you looked everywhere he probably delivered in his brain a little bit better but yeah there you go uh miles where can people find you what's the tweet you've been enjoying twitter instagram at miles of gray y'all know about mad boosties probably know about 420 day fiance so come through to those wonderful podcasts um let's see a tweet i like this one from at pj evans nice book too bad it was all plagiarized from the dictionary i just love that concept and then uh and then just this one kind of made me laugh because like i i remember a lot of the theater kids i would hang out with like in high school and just the beyond. But this is from Natalie Kerna at Nolly Pops tweeted. It's actually bad luck to say MacBook inside an office.

You have to call it the Scottish laptop. Anyway, for all the Shakespeare theater. So stupid. All right. Let's see. Tweet I've been enjoying. They're stupid. All right.

Let's see. Tweet I've been enjoying. Lamps tweeted, if sea turtles tried paper straws, they would understand. Come on. Take one for the team sea turtles. Right. You'll find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.

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Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.

I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports

on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke.