The Daily Zeitgeist - O'Brien Sleeps Tonight 10/5: Twitter, Sprite, Sushi Terrorism, Gen Z vs. Millennial Selfies, NFL, Taylor Swift

Episode Date: October 5, 2023

In this edition of O'Brien Sleeps Tonight, Miles and super producer Joelle discuss Elon removing news headlines from Twitter, the new Sprite Chill, the "Sushi Terrorism" trend in Japan, how to tell Gen Z and Millennials apart by how they take selfies, and the Taylor Swift/NFL circus!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, everybody, and welcome to this afternoon edition of O'Brien Sleeps Too Tight. Jack was very tired, so I said, you know what? Why don't you lay your weary head and let two absolute monsters of podcasting take over for this edition of the trending episode. I'm Miles and I'm here with Joelle Monique. What's up, Joelle? Come here. I'm ready to get into these stories. These are good trends.

These are a lot of things trending. Let's not waste any time and dive right in. These are the things that are trending today,ursday october 5th on your internet um first things first elon musk um so he's fucking up the links on twitter formerly known as x um previously prior to this update when you posted a nice url link to share with people in a tweet you got a nice image that was associated with the link with a short headline and it made sharing news articles so easy you know and so enticing for you to click and move through well elon has now seen to a change himself that makes web links look like shit um now like you know all you get now is like an associated image and a domain name. No, nothing else.

He says it looks better, like or potentially that like you can fit more tweets onto a screen when you scroll, I guess, because of engagement. I don't know. A lot of journalists were like, we're not really phased since Twitter formerly X was never really a huge driver of traffic to their sites but what it really does is fuck things up for just like the people who scroll twitter and are there to exchange information because that was a very useful feature your basic users yeah yeah you know everybody else yes yeah the people who actually uh matter to your site if what you're trying to do is keep your numbers up so advertisers come back oh elon leave it alone i don't yeah twitter was almost a perfectly functioning app like yes there was hate yes like sometimes like the abuse and stuff was bad and

they still needed to figure out some community guidelines things there were it was not a perfect system right but functionally being able to scroll through access your articles. The goal is not to see more tweets. Just make it a regular thread. Adding all of these characters to an individual tweet. Why can't tweets be 6,000 words? That's not necessary. I don't need it.

I have timers on my app so that I do not spend too much time on them. I don't ever hit the timer limit. It's an hour limit for each app. I't ever hit the timer limit it's an hour limit for each app i don't hit my timer limit on twitter anymore which to me says all we need to know uh i do like that twitter uh big twitter reacted by like posting death dates and stuff yeah we're like just like the same way this is what it looks like now yeah it's so funny there was also an interesting tweet uh from guy brainum um past guest uh and you know great writer was saying that like you know he's a quote elon musk's purchase of

twitter is uh the producers he has enormous tax liabilities from something else and needs to take as large of a loss as possible to offset his tax obligation so he just keeps trying to springtime for hitler this website and i was like wow wow and he's like the addiction is so bad it's gonna not work because people can't leave it like i know to me anyway like i even think threads is not hitting like it was like there's not people going to it every day. It's just not worked into the daily system of social media. I also think people are so burned out trying to follow so many new things

and figure out like, well, where was the next Twitter going to be that at this point you kind of just landed where you landed. Like if you read TikTok, that's where you are. If you got over to Instagram, you live there now.

Yeah. Whatever it is like, we'll just, I'll just make this work in the way I need it to. yeah because I get all my news from TikTok now and my doctor says I'm reading a lot of stuff that's incorrect but I don't know he's like a boomer so like forget whatever whatever your agenda is doctor um so let's move on to something very interesting now oh one door closes on Twitter another may open for us now we don't know for sure what's going on here okay but sprite is working on something new people

some people believe that what they're trying to do is figure out how to give us the sensation of mcdonald's sprite in a can i'm not doing it because it would be dangerous right now but high kick like just a just a leg all the way in the air, full of excitement. I would die. Please, though, stop drinking soda. I don't even drink sparkling water anymore. I might turn back for this. It reminds you of it?

I would go back to drinking soda if I could get it right from McDonald's. Or even if I could get a Coca-Cola McDonald's style in my fridge. Stop it. Well, allow me to answer your high kick with a full on fucking backflip, because if that happened, I would be I'd be in a bad way. Like I already took it took so much strength for me to not buy Baja Blast in a can. So McDonald's Sprite. Who knows?

Now there's a couple that people aren't quite sure what is going on because a new flavor was announced saying called sprite chill which apparently uses a quote chilling agent to make it taste cooler obviously that's all marketing cap okay the fucking chilling agent i know however but i'm still like hold on it makes it taste cooler go on marketing cap go on tell me more um now like a lot of people have said like maybe this is going to think be the thing that makes it taste more like mcdonald's right although this is i feel like maybe a bridge too far because the like leaked images that we've seen are a cherry lime flavor which famously is not something you can get at mcdonald's no um and also like this

caused like a whole other thing of like people talking about the science of mcdonald's right people said for the longest time it's the syrup to carbonated water ratio yes that you're getting a little more syrup and it's also the diameter of the mcdonald's straw because it's a little it's a bit wider than your normal straws and it means means it's hitting that palate. It's just a little bit more spread across your tongue. I don't know. So what McDonald's really needs to do is start manufacturing glass versions of their straws. Right? Oh, shit.

And they were smart, and they were like, hey, you know how you prefer all of your drinks from here? Here's a glass straw so we can get on that wave. You know what that is? That's called teenage miles's first drug pipe that's what the fuck that is i'm sorry that's like to say you said that i'm like man i would have been man the shit i would have been making with that i was using big drill holes in it like oh yeah yeah like that like those old like obnoxious ass giant cups you get in las vegas to drink a five-foot margarita.

You know how many bongs I made out of those kinds of cups as a teenager? So many. I had a Statue of Liberty one I made from New York, New York. Iconic. We only had apples in Illinois. That's what we were doing. Oh, that then grabbed me bongs out of milk jugs. Yeah.

Oh, that's pretty good. That's pretty good. Yeah. Although I remember there was a party where someone did one with an arrowhead, like a full-on whatever 15-gallon jug. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. Yeah. Although I remember there was a party where someone did one with like an arrowhead, like, you know, like a full on, like whatever, 15 gallon jug. That's a lot. That caused a lot of problems. It turned out.

Okay. What else? Sushi terrorism. Okay. Sushi terrorism. So what is sushi terrorism? Because, I mean, I like sushi and it's something going on in Japan. Apparently there is a, there's, okay.

So there's a thing for the uninitiated and for the non, you know, Japanophiles out there called Kaiten Sushi, which means conveyor belt sushi where you like, you just sit down and the shit comes to you. Some you order specific orders and it just zips over to you on like a really cool little conveyor belt. Others are just like a merry-go-round where like a shit comes around, you just snatch it off and eat it while they're just like chefing it up in the middle um apparently there's been like these

viral videos where kids are fucking or people pranksters are licking the shared soy sauce bottles or tampering with the food on the conveyor belt this feels very ariana grande very american exact same thing but i said why is ariana grande in 2016 taking over in japan what has happened what are you doing this is also to japanese youth out there this is not us didn't our parents yell at us about shit being so unclean all the time that this is what we're doing i get it the pandemic fucked everybody up so i get it you're out here now you're fucking licking the sushi plates um but apparently like one chain is like suing like a high school student for like thousands of dollars because of like the nuisance that it's caused um but yeah

it's now becoming a thing where they're like really having to figure out what to do to clamp down on this but yeah it's just just it sounds like japan is, they're figuring out how to fuck around with online prank videos. Oh, man. I'm sorry to the managers of these sushi restaurants who now have to be on the lookout for people randomly putting their tongue in places it does not belong. Yeah. That seems exhausting. I will say, oh, man. Something that in preschools they do sometimes is they put like a non-toxic but not tasty thing on stuff.

That way when you put it in your mouth, you're like, oh, no, I don't want to do that. Yucky, yucky. There you go. It doesn't transfer. Just don't put it in your mouth. It's going to be a bad surprise for you. Just don't eat the sushi on those plates. It would taste like shit.

The plates are going to be a whole different matter. I don't know. Maybe glass domes that when you lift it, like, okay, now you're paying for it. Yeah. i don't know maybe glass domes that when you lift it like okay now you're paying for it yeah i don't know how hotels they did well yeah because like they in the pandemic in japan like they did a lot to try and make things as like safe as possible especially in those kinds of settings but like now the more modern ones like they do this thing where like you order it off a touch screen and it just it flies to you and it's someone who loves and like it's so cheap that's the one thing man like

whenever you go you're like this this these two pieces of sushi were a dollar and 80 cents because two pieces now in like los angeles are like fucking 19 dollars um but that's another story we'll talk about the other the the real sushi terrorism, which are the fish prices. Here we go. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back and we're going to find out if we know how to tell Gen Z or millennials

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I know all these articles are being written by millennials because we were scared to death of Gen Z fucking calling us out all the time. We don't want to be old yet. With laser- laser guided pinpoint accuracy they know us too well i love it i always say this i love the flaming i love getting fucking cooked by gen z because it's so like their observations are so fucking funny to me and some are so off but some are so dead on that i'm like just go on we love the youth. But now there's a few TikTokers. TikTokers have been like, this is how you know if it's a millennial or if it's Gen Z in their group photos or selfies.

Let me hear it. So group photos. According to this one video that got like hundreds of thousands of likes and views and probably millions of views. It comes down to the angles and headspace in the photos. Millennials, they love the above looking down angle. Makes my face look thinner. With the close facial crops. Scant background. Gen Z, they're posting full body, babe.

From low angles. Not giving a fuck. Yeah. Gen Z also likes plenty of headspace to show off the backgrounds because obviously aesthetic vibes. Read the description. Yeah. And then like and also saying like the group shots, right? The quote classic millennial group photo involves posing close together and snapping a super focused face shot with no headspace.

Millennials didn't have the range back in the day. This was how you take a photo. And now we don't have the range back in the day this was how you had to take a photo and now it's happened we don't have that wide angle but like how are we gonna get fucking 16 of us everybody cranking go go to the sides we get as much bodies in here and that's what we do uh but that's not how that's not how they do it okay what about selfies okay uh the classic millennial selfie always an upward angle point of view yeah yeah this was the angle always there was no other angle preset timers or if we did we didn't know how to program that shit exactly the phone was always in the hand and then she says however gen

z selfie however the difference becomes immediately apparent gen zers are more apt to take selfies from a downward angle yeah and they and they they do it all over to the side, the other side, blah, blah, blah. And again, they love headspace. You gotta have that headspace. Barely any foot space. I have an on-the-cusp Gen Z millennial friend who is an influencer who I went on vacation with. And it was very funny to me because every time she went to take a picture, I was like, I'll take it. She's like, no, I got it.

She just set it on the ground and step away and then do her little photo shoot her 10 like photos in the next i was like this is magic like i would never your phone is just on the ground right are you doing this i mean yeah it's just really it's true like to your point like it's all about the technology we were fucking with at the time we were coming of age and taking photos of ourselves. Like, it was all digital cameras at first. Like, our phones were not taking fucking litty photos like now. We're also not as worried about aesthetics, I think, as Gen Z because we were pre-Instagram.

So you didn't need to have the high glossy photos. What mattered was the number of photos. 90 photos from my drunk night on a Tuesday in college. Facebook albums Let me prove to you what I was doing with this 7,000 photo album Man the way I was posting Forget it

But yeah fine Gen Z You caught us we're old I do love though that your friend was like Oh no I got don't You don't know how to do this shit So let me just And I'm not about to explain it to you Yeah exactly like got don't she didn't want to say you don't know how to do this shit so why don't you let me just that's really the subject and i'm not about to explain it to you yeah exactly like i don't know if i need to explain angles to you oh no did you guys learn this before um okay next thing uh

travis and taylor are trending travis kelsey kelse or whatever and taylor swift they are fucking like a ratings boon for the nfl like it's wild how the nfl the nfl used to be its own thing no more it is this is now taylor swift's game and y'all are just playing in it like you have players from other teams now who are playing the kansas city chiefs where her boyfriend plays like can you please not come to the game please i feel like he'll play better and also fuck man like the tickets go get more expensive it's wild um and now travis the boyfriend has has now spoken up and he's saying the nfl should maybe slow down with all the taylor coverage says the league is quote overdoing it a little bit travis baby i just want to let you know this is life of taylor get used to it but you you are clearly not prepared because it's not

nfl overdoing it this is the nfl just adapting to life of taylor exactly on board and this is all about ratings and engagement baby so when you have like literally something with the gravitational pull of jupiter right pull up to your thing guess what it is it's funny how many people have like commented like or you've seen things about just taylor swift fans like just now potentially at the thought like the potential or the possibility of seeing taylor at football games i'm like oh they're buying tickets yeah they're they're buying travis jerseys and putting swift on the back of them uh oh yeah they are yeah and uh it makes sense because tickets to these games are probably less than tickets to her concert were so you won't get to hear her sing but you could still be like hey

i spotted tate uh which is good for them i have muted taylor and travis on all social media accounts and yet still, they plague me. They're everywhere. So I think that it must be exhausting for him because that kind of spotlight is an adjustment. Could you imagine he breaks up with her because he's like, I just can't, man. I've lost my identity. I've been consumed by the Swift culture. I think people have broken up for stupider reasons. Not that, again, I hope their relationship is whatever.

If they're happy, I'm happy, whatever. How long do you think this will go? I'm looking forward to the Taylor Swift breakup album. I don't know if you know, but she's collecting recent exes. I don't mean her exes. I mean people who recently have gone through a divorce. Who just showed up? Sophie Turner, right?

So Sophie Turner, but also Hugh Jackman was in her posse at the last game yes yes she no this is some dark alchemy the broken heart hit her blogging taylor is she like that album is gonna slap wait is her is her whole physical existence powered by like taking these like shattered breakup people mean like come here she's just like taking their life force have been through a bad breakup and we'll just we're just gonna get through it together yeah we'll make it a joyous occasion yeah like when i read that headline i was like sophie turner spotted leaving taylor's townhouse i'm like what what does that have to do with anything i'm like just breakup games wait were they part of like a crew together were they in that little crew together sophie's ex-husband

dated taylor oh see i'm stupid and old yes and so that was the thing was like oh this is great revenge i can't remember which song she wrote about him but the girls really love it yeah i think it was like one of the ones that went number one and then to like the girls love sophie i think her character was misaligned in game of thrones by a lot of dudes a lot of like young women and girls really liked that character yeah and so now she's hanging out with taylor and it's like hot exes revenge uh and people like it wow fearless speak now last kiss better than revenge a lot of people are saying these are all songs that may be about jojo nas okay yeah wow well i mean look i hear the fire

albums always come after a breakup so you know but i'm like i'm sure taylor's like look i don't need it look i'm doing fine right now i don't need to fucking i don't need to go back in the lab quite yet so ride off in your convertible and have your ketchup and ranch mixture but that's the thing that fucking like i hate that i know how she's eating chicken strips in a fucking box suite yeah it's way too much information and then i saw somebody was like oh this is so great because in her documentary she said she couldn't eat chicken tenders because they had calories and she had an eating disorder back then but now look at her out here in the world eating there i was like guys i'm sure this is how i sound about beyonce and so i'm not judging you yeah yeah i don't need to know

i mean do we like what do we know about beyonce's like condiment habits oh man can we say about beyonce's condiments i mean i'm asking if there's someone i would ask you like do we have that kind of minutiae on her i feel like she's her shit is so tightened up buttoned up there might be if i if i really did like some thinking i could probably recall a meal she had at a specific restaurant because sometimes i'll instagram them i really love them but no i don't know how she likes her her day-to-day snacks i just think like they're different slightly above me does right but they're like but they are kind of they're slightly different creatures in terms of how they like with their privacy like beyonce is like you will know what i want you

to know when i want you to know it yeah exactly oh she's like oh you want a movie been working on that but i didn't have to tell everybody because one slip in like the past 15 years and we don't know who it was someone got into her house uh i think a staff person took a photo of a picture that of blue like there was a photo of blue on the wall and they took a picture of that photo we don't know who that person was but we never heard from that person again that story would not go very far like that kingdom is locked down yeah yeah but different styles because i think that's why taylor swift also has like just the audience and the fan base that she does is because there is so much like linking to like like my personal life blending with the public life and

maybe y'all know about it too yeah i try to do that on threads and nobody's following nobody's here for it i'm going going for the Taylor model. So whatever. We'll see what happens, folks. Give me any tips. Maybe it's because my selfies are also fucking gen millennial or whatever the fuck it is. But anyway, that's going to do it for us today. We're going to be back tomorrow with a whole episode.

Trust me, it's going to be a great one. And then, you know, have a great weekend. Joelle, thank you so much for joining me. You know, take care of each other. Take care of yourselves. Get the vaccine. Wear your mask. Don't do nothing about white supremacy or any other kind of hate discrimination.

Take care. Bye. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just

a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.

Listen to the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.