The Daily Zeitgeist - OBSESSED With Fracking, Is Trump Winning? 10.26.20

Episode Date: October 26, 2020

In episode 743, Jack and Miles are joined by writer and performer Bushra Burney to discuss the fracking debate, undecided voters, Peggy Noonan terrible and racist op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, armed men appearing polling sites, the Havana Syndrome, and more!FOOTNOTES: Trump’s Fracking Fixation Is Not Landing in Pennsylvania Undecided voters in pollster focus group describe Trump as 'controlled' and Biden as 'vague' in debate A Good Debate, and It’s Not Quite Over Florida Deputies to Add Security After Armed Men Appear at Polling Site The Mystery of the Immaculate Concussion WATCH: Photay - Outré Lux (feat. Madison McFerrin) (Official Music Video) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Lead poisoning may people kill. What about this coal gas study? Yeah, Miles, how about that one? Can you believe I've had four Mountain Dews? Four Mountain Dews. If you're ready, let's get this show on the road. Now five Mountain Dews. Ah, that is courtesy of, I don't know.

That's courtesy of the Discord. Killer Clowns from Outer Sky. Oh, Killer Clowns from Outer Sky. Oh, Killer Clowns from Outer Sky. Shout out to you. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. I want to talk right now. I'm Miles Gray and I came to smoke down. I am internationally known.

The valley to Japan I roam. I scope Air Jordans,ason margiela stay away from me new balance era i'm ahead and okay anyway this thing goes on and on if you really want to know it takes three to make the daily side um that is a fantastic one again killer clowns from outer sky on the discord but also this killer clown shout out has emerged from outer sky dude killer clowns also shouting out uh bino by the barrel for inspiring this aka it looks again group efforts happening on the discord to come up with these just ego stroking works of art so shout out in the pocket there man i was i was kind of just have to you were gonna keep going yeah well you know rob base

says there's something about him gets into my bones uh well miles it's election time we're getting right into this shit right now so let's tell the people what we're talking about today uh we're gonna talk about that debate at the end of last week uh specifically the fracking portion that sums up just how out of touch uh both donald trump and joe biden are i'm gonna check in with a Peggy Noonan column, which I like to do every once in a while just to make myself feel terrible. We're going to talk about undecideds and how they responded to the debate. We are going to talk about those Florida poll watchers, the armed men who showed up to intimidate people,

make sure the libs weren't cheating, who said they were hired by one Donald J. Trump, the president of these United States. We are going to talk about Havana Syndrome is back, baby! That story that has been a staple of this podcast. I had always thought that it was a mass hysteria event, and I'm starting to doubt. I'm starting to change my opinion, possibly. All of that, we might get into some Biden merch. The shitty merch war is on and popping in the 2020 election all of that plenty more uh but first we'd like to introduce our guest she is the talented the brilliant bushra bernie hey hey guys hi hey how you guys doing we're great we're thrilled to have you welcome welcome thank you how are things how are things what's new in your neck of the woods?

Things are interesting. You know, whenever anybody asks like how I'm doing, it's like, do I say like I'm okay or hanging by a thread? You know, it's like one or the other. That's why we're like, what's new? Because I think we've all accepted a certain level of nihilism and sadness. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just did a run of like live Zoom shows for my one-person show live from my apartment. So that's been a lot of fun.

I had my director, who's been a guest on your podcast, Zaha Nobatch. So, you know, she's been directing me over Zoom. So that run just ended the past week. So that's been a lot of fun. A lot of like I have had to keep my apartment clean for a whole week because I've had people like looking into my life. So that's been a lot of like i've had to keep my apartment clean for a whole week uh because i've had people like looking into my life uh so that's been a lot of fun or yeah so that's been that's where i'm at just kind of doing live theater from my apartment yeah what is that like doing a one-person show over zoom and when you said you have to keep your apartment clean are you taking the computer with

you around like so you're like oh shit okay this scene is changing i gotta get the kitchen now uh what's like how what's that been like oh it's been it's been interesting i've been using my laptop camera and also my iphone camera on a tripod so my laptop camera is like my cubicle in the in the show and then my ipod camera travels with me throughout my apartment i even have a scene on my balcony where I'm kind of shouting into it. And hopefully, unfortunately, no neighbors have complained so far. And so that's been really interesting. And it's just been one of those like, you know, when you're on stage, you have like the suspension of disbelief. But when I was doing stuff in my apartment, I was like, it feels weird to just hold a pretend nothing when I was like, I have my whole kitchen here. So let me make the

coffee I talk about. So it's been a really interesting experience, but I'm also performing to avoid. So we've been having people like be active in the chats and zoom. So it makes me, you know, just, it makes me conscious of like having an audience out there. So yeah, so that's been a lot of fun. That's a really good point. I mean, that's something that we're, we've kind of been experiencing for the past you know pandemic uh just like you know we're screaming we're trying to be energetic and perform to these people you know i'm in my garage right now next to next to my washing machine i i feel like yeah miles you got you got a hanger behind you i got a bunch of clothing.

That's just my process, though, to get really in character as a podcast host, to look like a man who lives in his childhood bedroom. I'm going to set up some fake studio glass and make my kids sit behind it. Just with headphones on that aren't plugged in, be like giving you the thumbs up. Yeah, exactly. Levels are good. Levels are good.

Give me the stretch it out, son. All right. unplugged and be like giving you the thumbs up levels are good levels are good give me the stretch it out son uh all right well we like to ask our guest bush where what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are well lately i've been doing a lot of searching on like non-alcoholic beer like i don't drink alcohol at all uh but um you know i was on this restaurant menu and they had this whole mocktail menu and then i started going i did this rabbit hole deep dive of like looking into mocktails and non-alcoholic beer non-alcoholic gin and i'm and i just now my search history and my instagram it's all ads of like here's all this other non-alcoholic stuff and the problem is like i want to try this but I have no frame of reference

of what any of this stuff is supposed to taste like. Right. Non-alcoholic gin is not something I had ever heard of. That is... That's actually just the old water in a flower vase that they just filter out. Yeah. Gin is one of the worst tastes out there.

Did you try it? No. The non-alcoholic gin no i haven't i'm i'm i'm wondering if i should but i feel like i should have a control group set up of people who know what this stuff is supposed to taste like right so if i go like oh my god you guys drink this stuff like no no no it's not it's not. It's not. It's a nose to taste. Right, right, right. Right. Yeah. Have you, what have you, what sort of, have you experimented? Have you bought like a non-alcoholic beer? Is there any sort of mocktail thing that you found yourself liking or something that, because I know some mocktails are just sort of like less sweet sort of combinations of flavors. And then like non-alcoholic beer, just mimicking beer.

Have you found yourself you know enjoying when any of these well i tried one once forever ago um it was like this brand called bavaria and it was kind of awful and i did like this accusatory thing to my friend i'm like i can't believe you guys drink this she's like no no no this tastes nothing like what it's supposed to taste like but i keep on seeing all these brands pop up now. And I am interested. I like working with drinks. Like I make my own coffee and I have my own coffee drink that I've created.

So I was like, I think I could have fun with this, you know? Just so maybe I'll have my own underground pop-up bar once, you know, I've got time and just start mixing mocktail drinks. I don't know how that'll work, but, you know just just something it just seems like a lot of fun and i could just really spend some time working on what's what's your coffee drink i like you know i love coffee i think jack does too we're

very pro caffeine while ignoring possible caffeine addictions which is the great uh trick the caffeine industry plays on people but um what what's your on people. But what's your drink? What's your trademark? So in a cocktail shaker, I put in ice, milk, simple syrup, unsweetened cocoa powder, a double shot of espresso, and a dash of pink Himalayan salt and shake that up. Whoa, that sounds amazing. So I actually made that in my show. So I would show people how to make that just part of my show.

And you're making espresso too? Yeah, I have my espresso machine. And yeah, I was all prepared when COVID happened. I was like, I have my coffee set up. You're like, I don't need shit. I don't need anything. Yeah. Right.

I love it. That sounds amazing. The cocktail shaker is an underrated tool. Even if you don't drink, I don't drink, but I still will fuck with a cocktail shaker. Put ice in, put whatever liquid I want to get cold. Man, that thing, it really gets the job done. A lot of dilution, though.

A lot of dilution in there. Sometimes. I think if you take it out right away. I think it's my, when i was on i went on a journey of trying to make the perfect martini and like got yelled at from three different bartenders when i would ask them like what do you do like no you're fucking stirring it's just gonna be watered down and other people like give it a quick shake but i guess to each their own wait so they're saying the cocktail shaker like melts it too quickly well the ice will break apart you're gonna get smaller fragments of pieces of ice that will

dilute the drink further versus if you're just spitting if you're just stirring then you're just mixing it around either way I you know I wish I cared enough to say one was better than the other but when I was a kid I was like all right so here's my invention i'm going to make a thing that makes drinks cold as quick as microwaves make things hot and come to find out the cocktail shaker already does that it's it exists and it costs like two dollars right yeah or what's that one trick with like salt and ice in a bowl and shit? Yeah, that's too much like a science experiment

for me. No, I think it's true. I just think that I'm dumb and have not chosen to investigate. Yeah, I'd rather do the shake because I like putting it over my shoulder and not making eye contact with whoever's around, just like a bartender.

And then drinking a completely flat soda at the end. Exactly. What is something you think is underrated, Bushra? So recently I've been thinking about the movie Bottle Rocket. It's Wes Anderson's first directorial debut from his short film. And I was just thinking about this is like an underrated film, and I don't know why we don't talk about it more. It's just just thinking, well, this is like an underrated film. And I don't know why we don't talk about it more.

It's just something amazing. And it's my favorite movie of his. So that's my underrated pick. Wow. Wow. Is that an Owen Wilson reference too? Because that put them on. Didn't that put the Wilson brothers on the map too?

It flopped when it came out. And I was reading that Owen Wilson was about to join the Marines because it just did bad. And because he already had the haircut in the movie. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, right. He does look like a Marine. Yeah.

That has some of my favorite lines. The line about water sports that he says to his little sister when he's talking about what it felt like when he lost his mind uh is one of my favorites yeah bottle rocket's good i don't think i saw that um is it is it is it very aggressively wes anderson like hyper symmetrical it's the least aggressively wes anderson of the wes anderson oh interesting like it doesn't have like just that uh hermetically sealed aesthetic where you feel like you're watching somebody play with toys, play with dolls. It feels like it takes place in the real world, and the characters are a little bit more realistic and lived in,

and he cares more about the characters, like you could tell, back then before they were i don't know i i still like his movies i really liked the hotel one but i i do prefer the movies back when owen wilson was his writing partner wait he was a writing partner too yeah yeah he co-wrote that he co-wrote rushmore bottle rocket and royal, and Royal Tenenbaums. And those are my three favorite of their movies. And then he stopped co-writing on Life Aquatic and The Train One. And I was like, those I was not feeling. I like how you begin.

After a certain point, you're like, The Water One, Train One, Hotel Movie, Fox Guy, Dog People. But you say that, and I know exactly what movie you're referencing yeah right yeah what for you busher what's so underrated in terms of like you know it's what what what what am i missing like what why do i need to put my eye upon this again you know i don't know it's it's just one of those films that you know it didn't do well when it came out and something I discovered later. And then I watched it a few times and just got obsessed with it.

And like the lines just come back to me and just it feels just like these random characters just get together and just trying to do something with their lives. And, you know, there's just memorable characters once you watch it. But I feel like you have to give it a couple of times. But I have like this. But I feel like you have to give it a couple of times. But I have like this. And the reason I brought it up was I bring it up in my show, in my one-person show, The Goofy Paradox,

when I go on medical leave and I was like, yeah, I could dive into the Bottle Rocket Blu-ray Criterion Collection Edition. It's just this random movie to have a Blu-ray Criterion Collection Edition of. So it's just been top of mind lately. The line I was talking about is Luke Wilson. She's asking like what happened because he's just coming out of being in a mental institution. He says, one morning over at Elizabeth's beach house, she asked me if I'd rather go water skiing or lay out.

And I realized that not only did I not want to answer that question, but I never wanted to answer another water sports question or see any of these people again for the rest of my life uh i don't know that really got me have you ever watched a wes anderson film and then like been so disappointed where where with where you live just the version of reality yeah like where i've i've caught i remember like after royal tenenbaums i was like yo that's the wave and then i like looked at my apartment i was like all right that ain't happening but uh damn like for a second like you feel it i don't know like and i know people who have fully i won't say names but they know who they are whose homes are like fully they

had no imagination like i'm just gonna do wes anderson my house is a wes anderson movie uh be careful where you step there are little dalmatian mice skittering around uh you have to be very careful yeah no i've always said i feel like wes anderson movies take place in a universe that is like fully inside the mind of a child who is reading children's books. They all have a children's book aesthetic, which is one of my favorite aesthetics. I love children's illustrated books, and he seems so heavily influenced by those.

And there are little nods to that, like in the Moon one, Moonrise Kingdom. The Boy Scout one. The Boy Scout one one where like yeah he nods to that but yeah i i do i do enjoy his his pictures i think there's one coming out that got delayed like all movies what is something you think is overrated busher i don't know if this is controversial i'm gonna go with peloton um i just uh i just i i can't believe how expensive it is and uh i just and people buy it and you know good for them that they can drop a couple grand that's totally okay that's totally

cool that they can do that but i got an elliptical and it was 10 of the price and i just can't get over how much that thing costs and that people use it and then they pay a membership on top of that and it just seems like so much money and yeah yeah to stay fit to have somebody whisper in your ear yeah you can do this you could do this you could do this go go faster now i was like i could sell my voice for like 10 bucks a month right i have my own peloton it's free weights and fox news you know what i mean and i just get i get i get in i get dirty with that shit just be like i gotta get my body strong for these fucking ghouls but yeah the peloton thing it's just become like half class marker half like especially in the

pandemic it felt like people just that was the way to sort of capture the outside world for people and exercise at the same time. I just can't, the workouts just seem way too intense for me that it looks like something I want to do. You know, like every time I watch people like, come on,

like it's, it's just very intense. It's a great workout. And I'm like, sort of like, I like to work out, but I'm not that serious about my health. So I'll do something with a little less intense sweating.

I've never needed people to yell at me to make me work hard. Because my issue is I always work too hard and end up making myself throw up. So whenever someone's yelling at me,'m like yes you're right i do suck let me prove my worth to you sir i'll do better on this hill yeah so like that that shit like does not appeal to me very much but like i know people who are like, you know, will pay somebody to be mean to them and be like, I don't need you to be nice, man. I need you to like yell at me. And, you know, I don't need you to be nice. I need you to remind me of my dad.

All right, let's go. Oh, that's that's that should be an app, right? Yeah, right. Dad app. Yeah. Yeah. yeah right dad app yeah yeah rather than like yeah exactly people are wasting all their money for cameos when really they just need video clips of someone that could have just been their dad telling them something is what was your like uh fitness or did you get an elliptical in the

pandemic like what was what like did you were you at a crossroads where you're like wow what's a peloton and then you're like wow that's a lot of money. Nevermind. Yeah. I had a pretty good gym regimen before everything went down. And so, you know, I did a lot of weightlifting and, you know, I miss all that and everything flew off the shelves. Like there were no like adjustable dumbbells, but I got myself like weighted resistance bands. And then I got an elliptical cause I wasn't going outside anymore. Right. So even just like the regular walking you do every day of going to your car and going to work, you know, going up the steps, like none of that was happening. So that's why I got the elliptical. Although I almost gave up on the elliptical halfway through assembling it.

I was like, I don't know if this is worth it. I don't know if I could do this. I just, I'm just going to give up now. But I got through it. And elliptical is really nice. But, you know, I got the resistance bands and elliptical and i just canceled my gym membership because this is all i need and so you've been able to during quarantine like maintain some semblance of like physical health i personally am in the worst shape of my life like post quarantine i think that's okay

you know i had some semblance is key, you know, what you said, you know, so I've been trying to stay in shape, but there's nothing like chocolate cake right now. So, I mean, why deny in these times, you know, it's just things are bad enough. Like, I tried to lose a few pounds that I gained. I'm like, why? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What does it matter? For what? I have found myself in that position of being like, yeah. Like I've had some days where I've been able to like stick to like eating as a human should, but I'm like less happy.

I'm like, I think I need this right now. I think I need to just like eat, you know, just a giant stack of Oreo cookies every once in a while. Yeah. A quick vibe check. Busher, you said you like chocolate cake. What are your feelings on fondant? I have mixed feelings on fondant because I know it's edible and-

That's always a good sign when that's your opening line. Yeah, I know it's edible, but when that's your opening line on a food item, that's amazing. Well, I don't think it should be a substitute for actual frosting that I enjoy with the cake. Because whether I eat it or not depends on my mood. But there should be a layer of frosting. I still remember years ago, this still stuck with me, that I was at this birthday party and they had red velvet cake. And instead of the traditional cream cheese frosting, they had fondant.

Oh, my God. That's not that's not you don't do that with red velvet cake. And I was like 15 years ago. And I still remember the time. Remember the time you can't have red velvet without cream cheese frosting. Yeah. No, that should be illegal. All right.

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on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back so that that uh debate last debate last presidential debate happened uh and the last week the lowest bar ever trump cleared uh people were like you know after after that first debate they were like will he be uh the equivalent of like a blacked out belligerent drunk like he was in the first debate no he didn't okay he wins the debate. No, yeah. Was literally like the analysis that I was seeing from people who were either in the center or on the right.

But one of the things that was discussed was fracking. And Miles, you were pointing out that that was kind of a nice little microcosm of why we're uniquely fucked. Yeah, why we're uniquely unenthusiastic about this just doing like whatever just fucking kick this can down the road maybe one day people will have equality um so yes fracking the way it was being talked about was you thought the entire fucking election was hinging on this it's come up nearly every debate it sounds like oh did you hear

what he said pennsylvania is here he said about fracking pennsylvania and i was just like what what why are we devoting so much time to this because i know there are actually bigger issues than that obviously there are environmental issues that go along with fracking but to devote this much focus to it just seemed odd and uh the daily beast they were also like they just wrote an article just kind of exploring like what fracking means to the voters of pennsylvania culturally to pennsylvania and looking at poll numbers and things like that because the way they talked about it you'd think pennsylvania is there to be won or lost based on where you stand on fracking and uh just a yougov cbs poll in august showed 52 of pennsylvanians opposed fracking

and 48 approved and then another poll in august uh said that while 61 of pennsylvanians had a favorable favorable view of the natural gas industry only 32 had a favorable view of the fracking industry compared to 50 who felt it was unfavorable so at every turn they're like okay like yeah it's an issue there but the way it's like in terms of a priority for voters it's not quite the thing that the two candidates seem to believe it is and there's just this whole thing of like, you know, not attacking industries that employ people, obviously as a politician, because then those people will see you as an existential threat because you're talking about the very industry that employs people. And that it's been, you know,

has been sort of a accepted knowledge, obviously over the years. But if you don't actually look at the numbers, then you're just going to waste a lot of breath on things. And there are even people who have benefited from fracking. There's like this guy, Eric Garland, who they interviewed in Allegheny County, who was saying, it's pretty much gotten my family through the late 90s and early 2000s for work. Both my father, brother, and sister worked in the industry for a little while. My dad's still in the industry on the chemical side. But then he pivots by saying, but a lot of people are more environmentally active right now than they were. And it's hard because a lot of times

they're either uninformed or misinformed about certain things. And I'm sure it goes both ways. So this person was saying like, but it's different now because in Pennsylvania, the environmental costs have really sort of come to the forefront of what people's feelings around it are. And I think, again, I just bring it up because there was this one quote. The reason I think it just underscores how sort of off they are is that this is like an issue some consultants told you about matters in this swing state, but you're not looking holistically. You're not looking at all of the Americans who are watching these debates and have very, very pressing questions and concerns about their existence that aren't tied to fracking. And one voter in a county where fracking was huge said, quote, I just feel like there are so many other super important issues they could be talking about, like social justice, the pandemic, and voter voter suppression those jump out as important ones yeah those jump out as those are those are some ones that i don't know seem like they might matter

it's always interesting to me like that when people view voters like abstractly uh you know voters who aren't part of like the death the death cult of the Trump movement. Like, when they're viewed abstractly, it's like, well, they care about fracking in Pennsylvania. But then, like, when you talk to them, they're just like, no, like, we were aware of our surroundings. We know that, like, there are issues that matter, like environment and stuff like that and social justice like it i don't know i i always get told like i'm stupid for saying that like we underestimate people too much but i i do think like the mainstream media in general just underestimates the public too much uh other than the people who are you know in a giant cluster at Trump rallies, basically.

Yeah. Pennsylvanians also believe that he stands to lose more ground like Oklahoma or Texas than Pennsylvania over fracking. Right. So even Pennsylvania is like, I don't know if that's really the message here. And I just, you'd wish to, in that whole debate, you could have talked about something else you could have spent you know eight minutes however long the fuck that back and forth was on something like the working class uh the invisible unhoused populations that are increasing across the

country uh you know fucking like actual substantive remedies to the systemic racism uh and xenophobia that we see in this country. But I think we're seeing very clearly what the priorities are, which is like, just get through this, say the magic words, and then we'll see how much of a vision for a brighter tomorrow there is. Yeah. Bush, did you watch the debate? Yeah, I caught it this morning.

And I don't know, man. I'm already decided on who I'm going to vote for, so I'm wondering why I put myself through it. But it's just one of those clusters that you just got to watch and you can't really look away. Yeah. Yeah. I know.

You found yourself being like, who is this for? You're like, what? Who? Did we need to do this again? Because all he managed to do was not scream because there was a mute function, and suddenly he's the victor. Yeah. It was a little frustrating. And I think, again, just disheartening when you know there are really major societal issues that should have the attention like of a platform of a debate

uh but when you're two sort of combatants in the debate ring or just two old guys trying to do like what about you what about you sort of tactics it it fails to sort of be nourishing to people with like those concerns and i think unless like debates have a live function of like what's true and what's false, there's just really no point to it. I mean, unless you like make sure everybody does like a deep dive afterwards, because there's just so much stuff that's just said and you either believe it or you don't. And we should really just find out what the undecideds are, what they care about, and why they're undecided in the first place, and just focus on those topics. Right.

So there's this Peggy Noonan article. She's a Wall Street Journal columnist and one of the most popular and widely read conservative opinion writers. And yeah, one of the lead things she was saying, she's like, Trump won the debate. Not a dazzling win, but a win that kept him in the game. He succeeded in doing what Joe Biden didn't have to do. If you wanted or needed an excuse, an out to vote for Mr. Trump, if you wanted an argument that justified your decision in a conversation in the office, he probably gave you what you need,

which I don't know what hypothetical workplace she's referring to i mean let's play this out jack where you are the person who voted for trump and i'm your angry co-worker who's confronting you wait what the fuck man you voted for trump did you see the debate yeah man did you see the debate i mean he yeah he was like, he barely, like, I'm pretty sure he didn't shit himself. No. Wait, but what about all the racist stuff, the dog whistling stuff? He said, he said these children that are being separated at the border are like, he was talking to them as if they were subhuman. Is that how you feel?

Who built the cage, Miles? Who built the cage? Oh, I can't see you. So. I'm like, this is what the thing this statement that she makes i don't know what excuse does it actually give you like just for you to just be able to live in your own head because there's nothing you could say out loud rhetorically that would be like yeah you're right man he really was he really did turn a corner there he's not the

racist uh just destroyer of all things that he's proven himself to be. Well, he did say he was the least racist person in the room. So, you know, that means a lot. And it was very theatrical the way he looked out into the audience to make sure there weren't any less racist people out there. But that's... I mean, I don't know.

It's too dark in here to see all the the dark-skinned people but uh i'm pretty sure like that's i'm like what was he fucking talking about in that moment anyway that whole idea that that's a glimpse into the the minds of the people who have to do it is like i just need an excuse please give me excuse please give me excuse because the racism is bad i just need a thing that wasn't so racist and fucked up and evil and i can immediately put all that aside because i am only looking for the candidate that is here to uphold and nurture de facto white supremacy uh and patriarchy in this country she made a point that uh in our debate recap i was i was kind of also saying in a different way, but she was saying Biden too often lapses into government speak, like saying things like the public option.

And, you know, Trump, she says, like, smartly kind of tied that to him being in government for 47 years and i do think trump has the thing that i was identifying as something like i wish we had the democrats had a candidate like elizabeth warren or aoc or bernie sanders who speaks like a person and not like a politician who just like uses words rather than like having like these like catchphrases and like having to manufacture these ideas and you see it formulating in their brain. But then at the end of that paragraph talking about Mr. Trump's power recovered Thursday night is to speak like normal people so you can understand him without having to translate what he's saying in your head. He appears to have lied a great deal that will be adjudicated in the coming day so like to your point bush or like the thing about him like lying and like not having a fact checker like it's just if that is your standard that like he appears to it's just like who's the better liar

who's the more convincing liar um and she's like yeah he appears to have lied a great deal that will be adjudicated in the coming days that has no that's never a thing that people like sit around and wait for the fact checkers to weigh in like they've already made up their mind so yeah it's a weird way to determine who who wins an election she also points to like this fact that and i think does like a decent job of putting it into words that like, we still think that like, he has this magical ability to, uh, defy the polls. And she,

she says, pull a black Swan out of his hat. It's like a, a column where I was like, I get why she is a popular columnist. She does a good job of describing the moment, what our fears are, that he's just got this magic that he's going to be able to pull again where he defies the polls. But then the last two paragraphs are unbelievable in just the dog whistling, the size of a foghorn, as Biden put it.

She suddenly turns to Kamala Harris and says, for her part, vice presidential nominee Kamala Harris is went on the trail giddy. She's dancing with drum lines and beginning rallies with what's up, Florida. She's throwing her head back and laughing out loud, but she's coming across as insubstantial frivolous when she started to dance in the rain on stage in Jacksonville to Mary

J. Blige's work that it was embarrassing. Apparently, you're not allowed to say these things because she's a woman and she's doubling down on giddy because you're not allowed to say them. It's just like she starts being a bad writer and being racist at the same time. It's just like she ends it.

She goes, if you can't imitate gravity, you could at least try for seriousness. I hate the shallowness with which politics is now done. The absolute purity of it. Do you? We're on the losing side. The future is an endless loop of Barack Obama on between two ferns, stamping on your face forever.

So let me just... So Barack Obama and Kamala Harris are responsible for the unseriousness of politics. This is coming from someone who was on the editorial board of the wall street journal which is currently repeating the hunter biden pizzagate shit the white supremacy journal she just sung the praises of trump rallies uh because she does point to trump rallies as being like a indicator that he might succeed again they're lively they're lively yeah they're lively where he has made fun of candidates for of uh journalists for being disabled and bragged that he could

shoot someone and get away with it and she has a problem with obama and kamala i'm i'm trying to figure out what they have in common that would make her unable to take them seriously you love when racists are so bad like like they racist just don't know how to not be racist you know she she was really holding it together and then she's like oh those black people are just too damn i don't know i don't understand stamping on your face forever what the fuck are you talking about you unbelievable it's unbelievable but yeah she just like couldn't hold it together long enough and and the fact that you know she was able to get that published and just just you can say whatever you want about like you know a lot of people just you know hold a lot of respect for barack about president barack obama and and you know kamala harris like she

represents like who we all want to see you know in office and just said oh we can't say anything it might be racist okay but i'm gonna go ahead and be racist because i don't want to you know conform but it's just insane that these people are just allowed to say whatever yeah yeah the logic is like oh and i can't say anything racist because you're gonna say it's racist it's like but she won't even say that she says apparently you you're going to say it's racist. It's like, right. But she won't even say that. She says, apparently, you're not allowed to say these things because she's a woman. What? What?

That's QAnon logic. That is QAnon. That's just all QAnon. I'm trying to avoid actually talking about the reality of it, and explain things in a way that doesn't make white supremacy an issue or racism an issue. So it's going to be like, Oh,

it's woke culture and it's women can't attack women rather than me trying to paint a black politician as someone being unserious or too jokey for, for holding office. It's embarrassing. It really is. It's like, you couldn't more clearly be the racist women character from the help like that's the vibes she's giving off those characters that movie is ridiculous and like

cartoonish and shitty but like that's when you see something like this you're like oh that's not an over-the-top portrayal by b Dallas Howard. Like, that woman exists currently in modern America and has an opinion column. Yeah, and didn't that movie, like, where I see the top on Netflix when people are trying to learn more about, like, trying to be more woke? It's like, let's watch The Help.

Let me learn and absorb. Oh, man, their stories, you know? Oh, there's so many other movies you can watch so right it's like well i don't want to get that uncomfortable by sort of putting a mirror up to my own behavior so i'm just gonna do it at the help level i don't really want to go further into maybe understanding what sort of micro macro aggressions i'm putting out just watch the help in Florida they're having to add police to polling stations because

there are armed people at the end of last week going and basically intimidating people these people are clearly Trump supporters and in fact have said that they were hired by the Trump campaign to go patrol and intimidate voters. You're seeing all sorts of people who are wearing Black Lives Matters t-shirts

not being allowed to vote because people claim it's political, but then there are cops who have Trump masks on at polling places. So you're seeing the, the fuckery is coming in, in full effect. And yeah. Yeah. And the problem is like,

if any other country did this, we'd be like, wow, that country, they're so backwards. Look at their corrupt government. And, you know,

we'd probably go and invade them to help them with democracy. Yeah. But when it happens here, it just seems to just be okay. Like I never understood like, why is that okay? Right. It's just that it's the comfort of Americanness, you know, that allows certain Americans

to never have that level of like introspection about like our country and just always launch these hollow attacks of like you always see the memes where they're like oh my god in communist countries everything looks the same cut to our like tract housing neighborhoods and mini malls that look have the exact five fucking best best buy petco and ross in the same fucking facility you know like it's it no one's ever actually taking the moment to be like, well, people starve in those countries.

I'm like, yeah, people are starving in the United States as well. You know, 8 million people just suddenly entered poverty like that without any sort of willingness of the federal government to help people. And so I think now everyone's just projecting the same way the federal government to do you know to help people and so i think and now everyone's just projecting the same way the federal government treats them onto each other which is well the government doesn't give a fuck about me why should i give a fuck about other people fuck it and then it's just it's you know manifesting in all these awful awful ways um but the one thing oh i wanted to also talk about you know on the heels of that Peggy Noonan article was Frank Luntz, the Republican pollster.

He also did a focus group after the debate and, you know, with what he calls undecided voters. And if you're an undecided voter at this point, you are either horrifyingly disengaged from the news or or you are a coward racist, or both. And you can tell by the way these people were responding after the debate. So Frank Luntz, he's like the big time conservative pollster. He recently said, if Trump wins and the polls are all wrong, polling's done. The industry is going to be fucked if he wins again. I think there's bigger issues if he wins again. It's not just going to be with the polling industry.

Yeah, yeah. Imagine what it'll do. Oh, God. Can you imagine? Once you think of the people, the poll watchers? I'm not selling my boat, I'll tell you that. I ain't selling a boat because of the fucking poll industry going down. Anyway, so he goes on to speak with some of these undecideds and you can just tell by the

responses that these people are not undecided they're they're undecided on whether they want to be known as racist or you know completely ignorant xenophobic everything that's wrong with america so after the poll or after the debate they say several of the focus group participants said they were more likely to consider voting for trump after the debate they say several of the focus group participants said they were more likely to consider voting for trump after the debate quote i am leaning more toward trump now however however okay you heard me say i'm leaning more but this is the thing i quote i still don't feel like i have good answers on the race issues and that's a very very important issue to me in this country right now that doesn't sound like someone where racial equality is an important issue to them in this country right now whatever that answer means leaning towards trump but race is a very important

issue to them right now how in what sense well maybe he meant white supremacy right maybe that could be yeah he's like he's not a full-throated white supremacist right i another person said uh like but in the group a majority of the respondents who are all coming from swing states said biden had a better character than trump then another person said ultimately it's a choice between character and policy wow i think i think it's a choice between character and policy. Wow. I think it's just lowered expectations like you guys mentioned before. Trump didn't – he was able to be a bit coherent and people just assumed that it meant that he knew what he was talking about. And just like he didn't completely flub everything, so why not?

But I don't know. People are undecided i feel like that they're making a choice of whether or not people like of color people like who look like me belong here right and uh it's just i remember when a difference of opinion of being a republican or a democrat was just like you could still respect each other's differences in opinion and i i think this day and age it's either do you want to be do you want to like support white supremacy or not is just the main question yeah and i i like that is the decision that's what's happening like you yeah no matter what you what peggy noonan tells you what uh these people are saying if you support trump you're supporting white supremacy

if race is an important issue to you you cannot categorically cannot vote for trump like that's just you can't do it um if you give a fuck about human beings yes you cannot vote for that for donald trump just in general fuck it even animals you know i mean the environment's getting fucked up too. Like, it's really... And Peggy Noonan, you can tell the way she wrote, if you were looking for a reason, they had it. That's her telling all the people who are afraid to get completely, like, you know, alienated

to be like, that's okay. You can do it. I'll be on your team too. I'll talk to you even if you vote for racism. It's okay. It's okay. And these people, and even these respondents, who are like they're leaning more toward Trump now,

it's like, no, you just, it's a sad state of affairs. She spent three paragraphs talking about a Donald Trump rally and then accused Kamala Harris and Barack Obama of making politics frivolous and insubstantial. Like that unbelievable cognitive dissonance going on. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen.

It's pretty tough. It's tough. Yeah. Because again, when I, when I see this focus group like article, I'm like, see,

it's there's the invisible racists are still out there you know what i mean and i don't know i'm i'm always just a little bit still very apprehensive of truly unknowing like where this country's at through polling uh because you see people who are so bending their fucking minds in the wildest ways to try and rationalize how this presidency has is good or worth enduring for a further four years uh and it's yeah in her column peggy noonan refers to trump's ability to pull a victory out or defy the polls or defy common wisdom defy the mainstream media as like his dark magic that we don't understand no we understand it he is the first politician in a long time who's willing to be openly racist in a racist country

like that is his dark magic that like he appeals to racists in a racist country and before people were not openly doing that. Like that's that's what he's doing. Yeah. And like the way he doubled down on like Columbus Day, you know, I mean, I thought like we as a people, as a country moved past that. And then the statement he released on Columbus Day about, yeah, let's celebrate this guy, you know, and just like everything he stood for is just like it was like this slap in the face of like, I thought we stopped celebrating that back when I was in elementary school. But he's just doubling down on that because that's just his base. Right. Yeah.

And that's all. And again, that's all he can do because it's not it's not going to bring people on the outside in like now he's. And that's why what's also worrying about like the amount of new registrations the Republicans have also managed to get to, because I'm sure there are plenty of disengaged racists that are like oh shit i gotta fucking vote this time too because you know enthusiasm could be just as big on the right as it is on the left and i think a lot of people just mean like think enthusiasm equals people who are registered democrats it's like uh no because let's let's face it, white supremacy is a foundational touchstone, cornerstone of American culture. And when people are telling you it's the fourth quarter, you need to lace up and get out there and vote for white supremacy. There are plenty

of people who are willing to do that. What are the political ads to engage racists look like? I'm curious if that ever, you know, if we see that in our markets here in California. I see, well, I see a lot of Trump digital ads, like if I'm, you know, watching trash reality TV, like on TLC.com or something like that, and you get like a mid-roll ad, that's why I've seen so many political ads like just watching digital video that has like ads and his are all like law and order based it's police being like you know i'm the chief of police and joe biden he's gonna get all the antifas in here and it's gonna be just a chaos and i'm that's why i'm with trump because he's he's with the cops

and it's like just showing like you know like sort of uprising footage and things'm that's why i'm with trump because he's he's with the cops and it's like just showing like you know like sort of uprising footage and things like that so it's just all he's using cops basically using the binary of cops and unhappy people of color and you know what to do just before the debate started last night i got a bunch of vote yes on prop 20 ads and the way that they so prop 20 is basically uh trying to repeal criminal justice reforms and you know throw the book at anybody uh who commits a crime and the way that this ad worked was using the same dog whistles that the Trump administration uses or the same like sort of scare tactics with human trafficking. They were like, right now, like California makes it okay for human trafficking. And they had a, they had video of a seven year old child with like,

like basically like gore makeup on like their, their like lip was like all fucked up in her eye like she had a black eye and she was like looking at the camera like and it was like yo what the fuck it was some of the just like darkest shit i've ever seen in a political ad um yeah but yeah that's you know that's what they do to it's the same one with uh like the dialysis clinics where like you see the ads where the really the coalition of dialysis centers has paid for because they don't want additional oversight you know to like make their business be like humane and like they've just parading all these people like they're gonna take away my dialysis if you vote for this, please.

And you're like, oh my God, I don't want to do that. And then you read at the end, it's like paid for by the motherfuckers that are getting so rich off of janky dialysis centers. Yes, exactly. It's all about, it's actually just making it so it's harder for dialysis centers to infect you when you go there. Make doctors have to work at dialysis centers to infect you when you go there right um make doctors have to work at dialysis centers rather than like people who they pay like shit and treat like shit and people are just like yeah man i'm i'm sick with the renal shit man i'm an expert in renal issues dude any kidney stuff

or my doctor no bro my uncle owns a space but uh i did a fucking sick online class and now i'm running it and like yeah when you really look at how the state of dialysis clinics i'm sure this is nationwide you're like holy shit man like these people are really spending money to be like no we need to keep our care substandard so we can make more money it'll be interesting to see how people vote on that like how much the political ads work because yeah it's very transparent it's very straightforward in terms of like a thing a law that would like there's really only probably 20 people in the county of Los Angeles who would be for like making it easier for dialysis centers to, you know, be dirty and shitty. But like, I feel like these ads have been so omnipresent. They're going to get some votes. All right, let's take a quick break and then we'll come back and

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or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back and the new york times recently reported on a story uh that we've been checking in with i thought i had my mind made for years now for years literally years we're three years into this motherfucker um so when the trump administration uh first started there were accounts of cia agents and diplomats working in cuba getting attacked by these like sound weapons they would like get out of bed suddenly a beam of sound would hit them, and they would have concussions, concussion-like symptoms. And it was a wild story. People were like, they're using sci-fi weapons on Americans.

But then as it went on, the symptoms were so vague, and they all overlapped with symptoms of aging. It was like, my hearing is worse, and my balance is worse. And it just had a lot of the hallmarks of mass hysteria. The other reason that it had the hallmarks of mass hysteria is the broader context was the Trump administration wanted to pull people out of Cuba because they wanted to just withdraw and do away with all the progress that the Obama

administration had made in Cuba. So there's new information that is putting a shred of doubt into my thinking on that that is what was happening, because they're saying that there have been these attacks throughout the world, including in Russia and in China. And I knew that there had been some in China around the same time. I thought it was all part of a similar, once they heard what was happening in Cuba, they were like, oh shit, maybe the same thing is happening to me. Get in on this.

Yeah, but there's also people who were attacked in russia uh like they got out of bed in their hotel and suddenly like they had a concussion even though nothing had happened to them so now these uh cia agents who were attacked are like pointing out that there is a pretty clear theory that you could come to that this is all Russia, that Russia is doing it in Cuba because they don't want American-Cuban relations to improve. They did it to CIA agents who were undercover in Russia. They did it to people in China because they don't want American-Chinese relations to go well. And the Trump administration is actually ignoring it everywhere that's not Cuba because the Trump administration just does not want to have negative interactions with Russia with regards to any mistreating of America.

You know, it would be of a piece with, you know, the Trump administration ignoring the fact that Vladimir Putin and Russia was putting bounties out on U.S. soldiers. So you're saying you're moving from the mass hysteria column, because before you were firmly, I believe, that like when this story first came out, I remember you bringing up a lot of other you're moving from the mass hysteria column because before you were firmly i believe that like when this story first came out i remember you bringing up a lot of other sort of mass hysteria things that had gone on where people were all believing something was going on and now you are actually being like all right maybe it's microwave weapons maybe it's microwave weapons from russia i don't know i mean i'm i've always said i'm open to being convinced either way.

Sure, sure. I think it's just a super interesting mystery. I think the way that the human mind can create these mass hysterias that are, in fact, become physical is really fascinating. That's a super interesting subject. It happens all the time. fascinating. That's a super interesting subject. It happens all the time. It's more common and more devastating and more powerful than people usually give it credit for. But I also think that there's now context that makes it possible that the reason we only had the Cuba like details on the Cuba thing was because the Trump administration is covering for Russia to try and you know keep things right uh quiet because Trump is homies

with Putin I had not heard of this this is very interesting microwave weapons wow super interesting I do I'm just going from pretty firmly in the this is hysteria camp to having one foot that like I'd be perfectly willing to believe that it's hysteria and one foot in the it would also make sense to me if Trump was covering up for a bunch of Russian attacks because that just seems to be what he does. I mean, yeah, he was willing to ignore, you know, bounties on. Yeah. Straight up bounties on U.S. troops. How does that? That's another like the more distance I have from the final debate, the more I'm like, there's so many things that they could have brought up that I was just thinking like he

didn't bring up the bounties. He didn't bring up fracking. He didn't. Yeah. Like they just Democrats just get themselves like they triangulate themselves into a corner where they're just like think that they have to be, you know, delicate and balanced and careful about their wording.

And it's like, no, just say the thing you think. Yeah, and I think if Biden had brought up microwave weapons in the debate, I think everybody would have been like paying attention. All of a sudden decided like, what? Microwave, what?

To my mind? So yeah, it's a lost opportunity right there. Yeah, I wonder if it's just like, yeah, that's all time wasted on fracking and it's like so funny how they there's all this concern about there's no middle class and da da da and yet you you know mathematically if you started talking about things like minimum wage or the working class you're immediately going from a topic that maybe only affects like the 30 000 people directly involved with fracking in pennsylvania to millions of americans across the entire country because then you're like oh

i don't know what the fuck fracking is but you start to maybe we can talk a little bit more about this minimum wage and how even 15 isn't actually a living wage either and maybe we could talk a little bit more about that because i don't think there's any person unless you're such a craven racist which you mean you're like a trump supporter where about that. Yeah. Because I don't think there's any person, unless you're such a craven racist, which you mean you're like a Trump supporter, where you're going to be like, I don't want to hear about how minimum wage should be more money so people could actually like raise a family on that.

I don't want to hear about that. Like, what the, what? Yeah. I remember when my mom would say like in the 70s, they would have my, she and my dad would have like these random jobs, like minimum wage, but like you can,

they paid their apartment, they got groceries, they were they were able to you know have a family like all those things that minimum wage used to do and now it's it's nothing you can't sustain life so i don't i don't know why you like people just seem to forget what that used to bring uh you know what that used to mean for a family it right it would seem like being the party that cares about people and that wants uh the wants the majority of people to have a have a living wage what like all the people who are being left behind like that they would be the party that wouldn't have to uh carefully choose every word and like use political speak but the democrats i feel like can't get out of their own way a lot of the time i mean 42 percent of americans make under 15 15 dollars an hour yeah so just what you could you go from a wedge issue, niche, niche wedge issue,

talking about fracking and you start talking about minimum wage a little bit more talking about, Hey people, I understand the pandemic's hard. I understand you might have a child, you know, actually you should probably be making at least $25 an hour if you were a single parent trying to survive in a metropolitan area. But you know, it's all this whatever i mean i think that's i think that's because both parties are just so ill-equipped to begin talking about those issues because they all all those roads lead back to the donor class that actually need to be taxed more uh and need to be earning like making less profit so it's just always about you know let's talk about minimum wage and then we'll just leave it there and then have arguments over what a relative living wage is based on where you live in the country rather than addressing the need of Americans to be able to live in a way that their labor is compensated in a proportionate manner.

Yeah, right. They haven't raised the minimum wage in 11 years. compensated in a in a you know proportional manner proportionate manner yeah right like they they haven't raised the minimum wage in 11 years that's never happened since it was first established in 1938 congress has never let it go unchanged for so long like how how do you not just like be like yeah the this is this the problem. We will change that. This guy hasn't and refuses to and is just focused on the stock market. Well, on that note. Come on, just one more week.

One more week, everybody. And then we can get through. And it'll be one more week. Who knows what? And it'll be Halloween. week and it'll be Halloween and then it'll be four more years guys just four more years holy shit

well we don't even know how long the election will last right it could be like one month and then we'll find out and maybe not you know so that's a good point as long as we have those poll watchers there armed with long rifles just making sure I feel safer already. Bushra, it's been so fun having you on The Daily Zeitgeist.

Where can people find you, follow you, check you out? Yeah, cool. Yeah, it's been a lot of fun being on this podcast. Yeah, so I'm on bushraberney.com. That's my website, B-U-S-H-R-A-B-U-R-N-E-Y.com. And I'm on Instagram, Twitter, more Instagram than Twitter as Bushra Writer. That's W-R-I-T-E-R after Bushra on Instagram and Twitter. And so yeah, I post stuff on there. And hopefully we're going to do another run of shows for the live Zoom virtual show show michael the goofy paradox in december

we'll see how things settle after the election and whether you know we're still around uh you know we you know so we'll see how that goes and yeah so but otherwise i'm gonna probably have a newsletter up on my website people can just check that out and see when uh they can expect shows awesome and what's what's your show about? So it's kind of about this existential crisis that I go down and it revolves around dessert. It's called the Kulfi Paradox. And Kulfi is this creamy frozen dessert from Pakistan and India.

And my mom has this recipe and I kind of created my own version of the recipe. So it starts off with me trying to figure out this recipe, but then, you know, I go down this existential crisis of like, work is messing me up. And, oh, but like, is a life I'm leading? Like, is that worth the struggles my parents went through? And so it's just kind of my journey through all of that. And all right, while I'm prancing around my apartment, and I'm not prancing. But yeah, and'm making coffee i'm i'm i'm pretending to be different people a couple different people and uh yeah just uh my hobs my stuffed hobs uh doll makes an appearance as well um so uh it's it's a lot of fun um i don't know why i'm doing it but i love

doing it it's one of those things like i don't know why i'm stressing myself out so much to do it uh but it's a lot of fun and i'm really glad i'm able to get my story out and just kind of honor my parents and uh you know my journey through that kind of show uh is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying well you know hulu recently posted this thing on twitter about uh about the up the reboot of animaniacs yeah and i can't wait hell yeah what do you know when that's coming out that's gonna be dope in november hell yeah yeah so yeah uh so just one more month guys just one more month, guys, just one more month and all our troubles are over. Yeah.

The election, Animaniacs reboot. I think there's a Fraggle Rock reboot coming at you. What? All good things. Yeah. Yeah, they're rebooting Fraggles. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying?

Oh, man, you can find me on Twitter, Instagram. Yeah, at Miles of Gray. Also, the other podcast, 420 Day Fiance, talking about 90 Day Fiance. And a tweet I like comes from Desus Nice himself. Mr. La Marina in a mesh marina with a fresh misdemeanor and a cool demeanor. So he quote tweeted this picture from Derekrick guy at die workwear and it's a photo of rudy giuliani and standing next to somebody says if your lawyer comes in wearing these you are absolutely going to jail and it's rudy giuliani's shoes and they look like like

eight bit pixel shoot like they're so blocky i've never seen anything like this i don't even know where you could purchase a shoe like this let alone give you the description of what this shoe is it's like a loafer chukka moccasin well i have no fucking clue what's going on here and then deezus he tweets with that he says man's rocking the geppetto 11s that he says man's rocking the geppetto 11s these shoes are so absurd i can't even the the the you have to i'm retweeting it just check out my twitter it's unbelievable uh yes fantastic that's amazing uh some tweets i've been enjoying at driving me maddie tweeted kid trick or treat me did you vote yet kid no i'm eight me okay well then i eat your snickers get the fuck out um we'll leave it at that uh find me on twitter jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist

on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we ride out on miles what are we riding out on today uh we are gonna go out on a track um from madison mcferrin and fote, who's a great producer. Madison McFerrin is actually Bobby McFerrin's daughter. And we've done one of her tracks in the past, but this has a little bit more like funky,

eclectic electronic production. And her voice is just super dope. And just like her father, very good at using the voice as an instrument harmonically and for a little accent. So it's just some nice things to listen to. It has a little bit of heart and soul to it. And it's called Outre Luxe. And I don't know how to speak French, but it's spelled O-U-T-R-E-L-U-X.

So check that out. That's from Fote and Madison McClaren. Don't worry, Be Happy is my two-year-old son right now. It's a shame. That shit's still go. Oh, yeah. When I get off this, I'm going to be just blowing my car doors off. Woo, woo, woo.

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