The Daily Zeitgeist - October...Surprise? Supreme Court Omen? 10.21.20

Episode Date: October 21, 2020

In episode 741, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Chris Crofton to discuss some Trump 2020 complaints, American's worrying about another civil war, the case that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court dec...ided not to overturn, The Cabin, and more!FOOTNOTES: On Fox & Friends, Trump says Bill Barr's "gotta act" on the NY Post's Hunter Biden stories, "and this has to be known about before the election." Trump is about to deliver a pandemic speech in Prescott, Arizona. Follow for a video thread. Our letter to the BDC (Biden Debate Commission) GOP pollster Luntz blasts Trump campaign as worst he's ever seen Americans worry about 2020 being another 2000, but the real worry is another 1876 Supreme Court Hints at a Bush v. Gore Redux, With Barrett Breaking the Tie WATCH: Moses Sumney & James Blake - Make Out in My Car (James Blake Remix) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:01 Listen to the Amber and Lacey, Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's big money players network on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts just listen okay or lacy gets it do it hello the internet and welcome to season 156 episode 3 of the daily zeitgeist a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and say officially off the top, fuck the Koch brothers, fuck Fox News, fuck Rush Limbaugh, fuck Ben Shapiro, fuck Tucker Carlson,
Starting point is 00:02:34 fuck J.K. Rowling, and fuck Fondant. It's Wednesday, October 21st, 2020. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Hey Jack with the white thighs. Use a bronzer
Starting point is 00:02:51 and they'll look better. Remember a little goes a long way or your thighs will look like Trump's face. That is courtesy of Rob L. Reynolds 3. And I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray!
Starting point is 00:03:13 Birds in the sky, you know how I feel. Miles getting high, you know how I feel. Jack's pale-ass thighs, you know how I feel Jack's pale-ass thighs You know how I feel It's a new bong It's the same gray It's a new life for me And I'm feeling good
Starting point is 00:03:36 Thank you to Hannah Ramick View, Hannah Soltis, I know that's you, on the Discord. Also, Jack, there's some heaters in here for you on the Discord. I'm going to have to start sliding your way. Oh, yes. Hannah Ramick got one here. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Oh, boy, Alberto.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Going to scare the white off my thighs? Is that good? It might even be in the lyrics. All right. Well, we can't take any more time getting to our guest. One of the all-time greats. He has assured us that he has his recording situation all ironed out. He is the hilarious, the talented, Chris Crofton!
Starting point is 00:04:21 How's it going? Thank you for that great intro. Guaranteed to disappoint after that Oh, come on, man So happy to be here Always so good to have you You're joining us not from bear country You're joining us from, uh Well, what's Nashville?
Starting point is 00:04:38 It's called Music City Music City, yeah But it's more like Country country It's like basic city now oh damn why why is that your face nashville it's a just it's a it's a it's full of paper condominiums and full of whoever buys paper condominiums and i'll tell you what they're not musical yeah they're not the real ones not the old nashville it's like williamsburg it went the
Starting point is 00:05:05 way of williamsburg it's like it's like yeah it's like i mean it's there's still good musicians here but i mean in general there's uh i don't know like just millions and millions of paper condominiums everywhere full of whoever buys paper condominiums and i gotta tell you most of the time i don't want to know those people yeah when you say paper condominiums are they made of paper what i believe so right that's the only reason yes like you know the ones that the ones that go up in 45 minutes and are all ready to go and have the exact floor plan and have the same appliances and everybody's like excited about that for some reason well yeah they're just like these like yuppie prison cells is what they look like
Starting point is 00:05:45 it's like i'm a middle class prisoner in my stainless steel kitchen and you know the yes and they're like i don't know like i'm kind of making up that they go up in 45 minutes but they do go up very quickly yeah and they are made of they are all the same and then all the stuff in it is the kind of stuff that as soon as it gets dirty like you find out like you bought a shitty place like it's like when it's brand new right oh this couch is awesome and then right like starts the threading starts to come out and then the fire pit the fire pit on the roof doesn't work anymore and the fitness center doesn't have anybody behind the counter. And it's only got one dumbbell.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Yes. And the foosball table all of a sudden breaks and nobody fixes it. And then and then you realize you paid. Basically, you're paying rent for a foosball table. Yeah. Is there a part of Nashville that is like gentrified, pretty hardcore? We're like, you know, 15 years ago, you're like, oh, yeah. What's that part? Like, what's that part? Because I feel like Echo Park in L.A. was one of those places that initially, you know, for people growing up, it was, you know, very working class areas where I would go to get my fake IDs and any other nefarious items.
Starting point is 00:07:02 And now it's like, oh, we love echo park it's just so fantastic uh what's what's like the nashville equivalent i i would say germantown germantown was this sort of like it was really kind of a poor area and and it's still adjacent to very low income areas but then they just sort of just redid it and now it's got you know a bunch of pcs paper condos it's got paper condos and it's got the people that jog around like poor neighborhoods in like really expensive yoga clothes and just pretend that for some reason with the landscape around them doesn't exist which i think is really weird. Yeah, well, yeah. If my outfit is expensive enough, it might affect the other people around me. Yeah, it's like, I just think it's about tuning it out.
Starting point is 00:07:50 It's like, you know, they just say, I'm in a magazine, I'm in a magazine, I'm in a magazine while they run. To the point about condos going up quickly. In New York, I lived in Long Island City for one year, I think in like 2010. long island city for one year i think in like 2010 uh and then when my wife and i were visiting new york like a handful of months later we had to go back to our paper condo uh to see if like that there was mail there for us like that's how recently we had been there and like we couldn't find the condo the landscape was so different like the it was just so it was so different it was like when we got there like one year earlier it was
Starting point is 00:08:33 like dog parks and warehouses and then like it would it looked like fucking tribeca when we when we went back to pick up the mail it was wild a lot of insider geographical references there yeah yeah nashville's not like a grid so the interesting thing about like in new york i well all i know is that nashville's like gentrified in spots and then not gentrified and then gentrified and everything's sort of on top of each other and that leads to a lot of like wealthy people tuning out their neighbors which is like a really weird experience because my next door neighbors in the house um that well my parents live there now but it's a fucking long boring story uh but me and my brother and sister lived
Starting point is 00:09:18 there for eight years together we can do a whole podcast about that someday but um but that house that house it is it's a tv show that involves a lot of uh uh panic attacks so um uh this tv show is called panic attack anyway the uh house next door to mine is like used to be this crazy house full of people who, who, who, you know, who their, their dog's name was front yard. And, um, and that's true. They'd be like, get in here front yard. Um, which is pretty bad-ass. Like I will say that maniacs know how to name dogs. So, uh, so anyway, someone got shot next door. Um, there were twin brothers living there and one shot the other one when they were drunk. And then that house, you know, they moved away.
Starting point is 00:10:10 And that house was sitting vacant for a while. And then they tore it down and built this giant, like, paper condo thing that looks like a cuckoo clock. It looks like a house in Switzerland. But it's next to... And it's huge. And it's like bursting out of the property lines. It's like the most house you could possibly put on the smallest yard ever.
Starting point is 00:10:32 I mean, this was previously a low-income person's yard. It's small. And they packed it full of roof decks and fire pits and foosball tables. And it's just bursting. And it looks absurd. And their neighborhood around it is still poor based not poor i mean poor is like i don't mean to say poor middle class i don't know like it's not like really poor because what i mean uh i just it has a lot of personality
Starting point is 00:10:59 according to the real estate listings yeah i mean it's just a regular street it's a regular street full of people with various incomes. Like, yeah. And like, then there's this cuckoo clock in the middle of it. And those people just pretend the rest of the neighborhood don't exist. So you can't even really talk to them
Starting point is 00:11:14 because that would blow their whole, like, theater piece they're doing. So they're just like, hello to your neighbor. And they will not acknowledge you because they're like, to acknowledge you would be admit that you're a fake millionaire because you came to a neighborhood and just this is the
Starting point is 00:11:30 only place you can build that monstrosity go build it in the neighborhood where it's supposed to be with all the other rich people or else build a normal house dick boom all right uh all of that all of that being said uh chris we're gonna get to know you a little bit better okay uh in a moment sure a couple of things we're gonna talk to if we have time to get to them are uh where the trump campaign re-election campaign creep uh 2020 is that we're gonna look at some historians who think we're headed for some very bad things Or at least could be in terms of civil war We're going to talk about that Pennsylvania voting case
Starting point is 00:12:13 That the Supreme Court decided not to overturn We're going to talk about the cabin with Burt Kreischer I finally watched an episode and a half All of that, plenty more But first, Chris, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? I finally watched an episode and a half. All of that. Plenty more. But first, Chris, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Well, I would say I'm kind of running out of crazy things to watch. This pandemic has gone on so long.
Starting point is 00:12:39 I don't know what to... I mean, I've watched every dumb thing you could possibly watch. But I've been watching a lot of abandoned, generally like abandoned house videos abandoned like factories and abandoned mental hospitals and stuff but here's something i kind of it's kind of a just an observation about it watched enough of them now that i realized that i've seen an episode where a guy showed up and a vlogger they call them vloggers yeah yep mm-hmm really those bloggers with the video now huh it really rolls up on longer they want a lazy so so that they showed up to an abandoned house and there was already another bunch of vloggers in it.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Like they were shooting at the same time? Did they have like the wackest West Side Story showdown of all time? Were they like turf war? They kept saying how it was like spooky. You know, it wasn't spooky because there's someone another person with a camera there you know so that to go into each room they had to wait for the other vlogger to leave the room so it'd be spooky again they were like what was that and it was actually some other vlogger saying what was that
Starting point is 00:13:59 was the sound that they heard yeah yes like an echo if there's a doll in the house and so everybody when they see a doll in a house that's a man it's a fucking doll yeah they're like it's not a creepy doll and it's maybe a nice normal doll they still go oh my god that doll's creepy so it's like an echo jam listen walking through it like one vlogger you can hear going into the room and going that doll's creepy and then the next vlogger goes in the vlogger industrial complex yeah and it becomes like plant that doll does the vlogger bring a doll with them so have oh yeah it's a planted doll you see them you see it all the time these vloggers planting dolls at the scene of the crime all these um that's all is building seven um exactly
Starting point is 00:14:45 hold on listen man you can hear oh shut up shut the fuck up i think the doll's talking listen it said like and subscribe didn't it did you hear that yeah so i've a lot of that and then the other thing i was noticing is that people are desperate like content creators you know you know it's like it's an endless operation and there's only so many abandoned houses in the world yeah i mean a lot of them like you know if it's just nothing in there like then it's pretty boring but the good ones that still have the stuff in them which are also super really sad because it just means whoever was living there died and like didn't have any close relatives so they're all their stuff still in it and the people look is i wonder what happened to this person all their heart medications all over the place and they they you know there's blood all over the toilet yeah the macaroni
Starting point is 00:15:35 still these people lived like crazy and it's like they didn't live crazy they were old people so anyway i feel like sometimes people are breaking into people's houses when they're not at home now that's that's the next wave is a cat burglar content seriously and they're gonna do they're gonna need to do it they're gonna be like go and they're just gonna end up breaking in and being like look there's a man still in the bed that's like yeah that's like i remember when we were talking about the the guy who was caught camping on that like abandoned tropical island and disney world in orlando yeah and then that got me like watching a string of just like these kids who just get off on like just trespassing in orlando like at universal or disney world or wherever and like
Starting point is 00:16:26 they're so slick they'll literally just like jump fences time it out slipping through a door walk through a concourse and end up in like some discontinued part of epcot and then like when they get caught they'll be like excuse me um what are you doing here and it's like oh i'm sorry i was looking for the bathroom and they're like well you shouldn't be here at all and he's like oh i'm sorry i'm sorry and like they walk them out and they're like oh shit that was so close uh that's like the my like high stakes content now i'm like oh little kid you're gonna get in trouble right and then they're like yeah and then the people are like i wonder if that was like you know like i just think they're gonna start being like oh it's a ghost security guard
Starting point is 00:17:02 you'd be like no i'm a real fucking security guard oh no that's like you know like uh i just i just feel like there's a there's a point where they're gonna they're gonna break into someone's house and they're gonna be in there and the person's gonna be like they're like there's a ghost you know in here and the guys can be like no i live here it's my house my house just needs to be painted you asshole get out of here yeah you know how much it costs to re-roof a house there have been a couple videos where there have been people saying like i'm not sure it's abandoned and i'm anyway that's that's that's what i've been up to i've been watching like these abandoned and also just the question
Starting point is 00:17:39 is the place abandoned if it has 20 vloggers in it? Right. True. Is a mental hospital abandoned if there's 20 vloggers in it? Right. That's like in LA. There's like two abandoned hospitals that everyone shoots in to do like guerrilla style creepy shoots or photo shoots. And at a certain point, you're like, it completely isn't weird anymore
Starting point is 00:18:03 because it's got like a bunch of leftover modern trash. And you're like, it completely isn't weird anymore because it's got a bunch of leftover modern trash. And you're like, this just looks like some fucked up building. People are just like... Oh, shit. Look at that Dorito wrapper. I feel like that's the old kind of Doritos that they used to have before. When it was clear, when it was see-through in the front window. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Yeah. Like a year ago. Yeah, when they did the retro bags. Oh, shit. That's so creepy. I remember that shot from gray's anatomy when gray's anatomy shot here in season two oh my god let me pose here yo is that a surge is that a 20 ounce bottle of surge unopened there's a lot of that a lot of like i think that's old that happens i mean that's most of those i think that's old yeah i think that's old or maybe it's not they always say like there's three things they say they say i think that's old that happens i mean that's most of those i think that's old yeah i think that's old or maybe it's not they always say like there's three things they say they say i think
Starting point is 00:18:49 that's old or maybe it's not but i think it is right and then it's yeah not again it's all kind of the same genre like that bigfoot hunting and ghosts like where you kind of got to pretend like it could be but also you got to be kind of real and be like but it also could not be but i don't want to ruin the whole illusion so i'm going to pretend hey maybe it could be yeah those videos though mostly waffling yeah right right yeah because it's all about the mystery so like by not knowing that's like part of the fun yeah i like watching old i love old shit too so it happens to me and i happen it happens to me all the time i'm always like i think that's old but then maybe it's not but i think it
Starting point is 00:19:30 is but maybe it's not that happens it's like all day for me yeah it's all day bro um what is something you think is underrated underrated i would say um i had a i have a list of those things so i would say going over the niagara falls in a barrel is underrated yeah that used to be a thing right yeah i feel like it's because nobody's doing it anymore and i feel like during a pandemic it would really liven up people's be kind of make people happy if people would start doing that again was that a thing where people lined up to watch somebody die in a barrel well uh the idea was that they were just you did how but do ever does everybody survive going off niagara falls oh that just seems so fucked like you break your hips on impact like your whole lower half is shattered your hips like that's yeah most everyone lived but everybody broke their hips
Starting point is 00:20:27 yeah in my mind i'm just thinking of it you're you're like in a cannonball like knees hugged to your chest in a barrel and you're just hitting ass down in a wooden barrel and then you're just coccyx and everything's fucking just explodes it's nothing yeah and not just your cock-icks. Yeah. No, people died. Lots of people died. Oh, okay. And no matter how big, how, like, well they designed the barrel, you know, you know, it's a long thing that happened. But the problem is that you don't get the publicity you used to do.
Starting point is 00:21:00 With the news cycle now, you don't really get that much publicity for it, so it's probably not really worth it. Right. You know, it's like it'll just be a blip and it's a major operation and you are risking your life so you don't get like i don't know how you say it the ratio to like risk versus reward yeah it's not what it used to be it used to be if you did it you were on the front page because there was nothing happening. Huge ROI on that. Huge ROI. Trump has taken all the air that's supposed to go to people going over Niagara Falls in a barrel. Watch it now.
Starting point is 00:21:32 He's going to be. He's so desperate. He's like, look, fuck the debate. I'm going to go over Niagara Falls in a barrel. Then they'll see who's stronger. I challenge Joe Biden to go over Niagara Falls in a barrel. That's the next thing, the next feat of strength. There's a great Wikipedia page dedicated to this. And the first three people who tried it, Joseph Avery, unnamed, and unnamed, all died.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Oh, shit. That's not a good sign. They made the decision together. Avery and two other men had been working on a scow and drinking and attempted to row from Goat Island to the mainland when their boat capsized so they didn't do the barrel
Starting point is 00:22:13 oh they just fell to their depths off of Niagara Falls scow but Annie Edison Taylor in 1901 sent a cat over the falls in a barrel the cat survived and she then went over herself and survived. I was hoping they would die. The arrogance of like, I'm going to put this cat at risk.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Cat lived? Great. My turn, dead. The cat was like, I don't need a barrel. I'm a cat. Yeah. Always landed on my feet. Yeah. No problem.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Throw me off the falls. falls man things used to be boring that's something uh i saw a headline that was along the lines of are we ready for boredom again if trump loses um and i i personally am i think we can oh me too oh my god it's just stick of that motherfucker yeah he takes up every fucking I mean he's been in everybody's face in a way that no policeman no president no way no policeman has ever been in my face
Starting point is 00:23:17 that man in my face it's it takes away your free will it takes away your free will because he just determines what you think about. I guess, unless you have... You know, just to let
Starting point is 00:23:32 Daily Zeitgeist listeners know, Zeitgang, if Trump loses, we might be gone too. We might have to get out of here too. We don't have anything to talk about. Oh my God. I've been thinking about you guys. I've been feeling for you guys because I really did stop listening to the news i mean i really i had to for a little while i get it yeah it's really it's just
Starting point is 00:23:51 it's sort of like you know there's a level of when you have money in politics until there's campaign finance reform which there probably never will be because the people who have the money in politics right now are very happy about having it there yeah um you know we're just gonna get corruption and it's gonna be under biden too i just saw that thing about fucking john casick being in his goddamn being floated he's he's gonna try so many gop ears yeah no he's he's some bullshit with like oh we'll have a bipartisan cabinet and that'll be good for yeah i mean i'll i'll never stop throwing up from that right but you know but i mean just the oh the idea oh that i can't even that just i just found that out right before we talked and that just made me so sad
Starting point is 00:24:35 but you know you can have a president there's going to be a certain amount of corruption until something you know happens that makes the money fall out of politics. But until then, you could at least have a president that didn't bother you all the time. Right. Or just lie to you all the time. This only lies to you maybe 30% of the time. It's exhausting, yes.
Starting point is 00:24:59 And you lie in a tone that doesn't rattle everybody so much. Right. It's like, just do it very monotone. And so when you say that I'm not actually getting any kind of equality, it at least doesn't sound violent. Yes. Like just that. Like I'll take a better tone. If I can't get like no corruption, I'll take a better tone.
Starting point is 00:25:19 But, you know, I realize that I don't mean to be too flippant because it'll be nice for him. He brought a bunch of racists with him. And I do feel like Biden would be less likely to stock his fucking cabinet with straight up racists so yeah just old school ones who know how to keep their mouth shut when it matters i mean yeah there's a certain amount of just like you have to be you have to be able to go through your day um without being confronted by somebody just abusing you i mean he's abusing us he's he's he's been gaslighting i mean you know there's never been a that's the term for him i mean he's like a he's an abusive person who who gets off on people being upset and
Starting point is 00:25:58 he's he because he takes that to be attention oh i, I've got attention. It's like, that's not attention. It's people who are upset. It's not the same thing. But that narcissist don't know. Is America ready to get out of this abusive relationship on the first try, though? That's the question. Yeah, yeah. On the first try. Oh, boy.
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Starting point is 00:26:44 24 hours. BPM 110. 120. She's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out?
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Starting point is 00:30:13 Just, you know what? Listen to the Amber and Lacey, Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And Chris, what is something you think is overrated? Alcohol. As a cleansing solution, as a disinfectant? No, no, that's good.
Starting point is 00:30:44 I put that on my phone. But no, that's good stuff. I love that. No, no, if it's used for COVID-related stuff, go ahead. But just in general, as a person who used to operate and own a band called the Chris Crofton and the Alcohol Stunt Band, I feel like I every now and then should remind people that I used to be having panic attacks all the time. I would never have ever been awake right now. There's not a chance that I would even be awake right now to do a show, let alone have ever contacted a show or known anybody who would put me on a show.
Starting point is 00:31:18 So like alcohol and but but I always wanted to reach people like I always wanted to entertain people but I didn't realize how much static all that drinking was causing it causes a tremendous amount of static it causes a lot of resentment and things you don't really necessarily understand because the alcohol makes it really hard when you're actively drinking and that includes even if you're drinking a couple days a week and only getting drunk a couple days a week because I tried that. I'm only going to get drunk a couple days a week, but those nights I'm really going to go after it.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Well, that really is enough to shift your perspective all the time. I don't know how to explain it, but the alcohol doesn't go away. It stays in you. If you drink a couple times a week and you drink hard, it stays. You're confused. Anyway, I just want you to know that clarity is a lot more fun. And also, I think it's really daring. Anybody who's thinking about quitting, just think about it as a new chapter and an exciting idea. It's not some problem like, oh, no, I never get to drink again. I'm a loser. No, it's like having a new chapter. It's like a challenge. It's not some problem like, oh, no, I never get to drink again. I'm a loser. No, it's like having a new chapter. It's like a challenge.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Facing reality is like really, really noble, I think. And being present for people and being able to help them move. That's one thing an alcoholic never will do, but always will do. Oh, yeah, I'll help you move on Sunday morning morning you know how many times i you know especially on saturday night yeah oh yeah i made a lot of brunch dates for sunday morning on saturday oh we gotta get a brunch tomorrow man we gotta get dinner breakfast tomorrow and if you're an active alcoholic go easy on yourself just stop saying you're gonna help people move yeah you're an active alcoholic, go easy on yourself. Just stop saying you're going to help people move. Yeah. You're not going to.
Starting point is 00:33:09 What about creatively, too? Because I know some people are like, the sauce helps. People even say that with weed. I can't really get creative without blah, blah, blah. How's your creativity? Did you have that sort of in your mind, too? Were you like, I'm used to creating while i'm drinking i mean yeah i i was afraid it was like when i started taking antidepressants i was like it's gonna take away
Starting point is 00:33:30 my creativity and now i've been on zoloft for 20 years you know and i still i'm creative and i if i take away my alcohol then i won't be creative creative you're a creative person you're a creative person period you're not gonna take that away with anything um it's not that sensitive it's a big probably a big chunk of you that can't be negated um yeah um you know and and what i found out about all that drinking like the people like um people used to think that uh making art and writing were effeminate were were not man, like the old time idea of manliness. Yeah, right. Writers and actors and everybody were all like sneered at by certain parts of society
Starting point is 00:34:12 who thought that was not like a manly activity. So they had to like be hard drinking. And their heads off to cover it. Yeah. And it reminded me of when I went to high school and i was being like i was like listen i'm never gonna get laid unless i get to go to these parties and those parties are run by seven foot tall blonde lacrosse players and you know i just started drinking and those lacrosse players were suspicious of me because i was like smart and then they wanted like but then once i drank
Starting point is 00:34:43 they were like oh i guess he's all right like i neutralized myself so they could find me less threatening you know what i mean like right right right look at him he fell down but i mean they're just definitely healthier ways to connect with your creativity uh you know i like i think both alcohol uh and drugs can be helpful initially, but they're ultimately crutches and performing something that ultimately therapy should be doing for you. Or actually working on yourself, getting the blocks out of the way uh organically organically rather than by slowly poisoning yourself yes and i and i don't mean to say that nobody should smoke pot and nobody should drink at all i just if you're in a in a jam about it um just uh reach out to somebody possible yeah reach out to me um you can reach out to me uh bestofbread at gmail.com
Starting point is 00:35:45 seriously if anybody's suffering yeah you can hit me up on so alcohol is overrated yeah yeah what is what's a myth what's something people think is true you know to be false a myth is that people think we're never going to do that podcast called cold brew got me like
Starting point is 00:36:01 but we are coming it's coming at you we're gonna do an episode on thursday we've had uh we just have had uh um crofton related problems we've had uh we've had we've had me running around and and uh uh not being in one place and And anyway, we're going to do it. Yeah, this too shall pass. And we will get to that moment. I'm going to do it. We're going to do it.
Starting point is 00:36:31 We're going to talk all about every, all the, we're going to talk all about all the cold brew things. I love it. All right. Let's talk about where the Trump campaign is at. Creep 2020. It seems like there's a lot of negative energy coming out of, out of the Trump campaign.
Starting point is 00:36:51 What's going on? I thought they were confident. I mean, Jack, you've got ears, you've got eyes, you've read the things the campaign said, you've heard the things they've been screaming.
Starting point is 00:37:01 It sounds like he's trying to get the fuck out of the last debate uh or at the very least just be so whiny up top that it explains why his performance is so terrible going into it uh it started off you know just being like we were talking about yesterday coming after kristen welker being like she's biased because she's a radical antifa journalist who does shit like asks follow up questions and won't just let my lies bang out loud um you know great and then you know that that's sort of to be expected if like the person isn't like a full-on isn't sean hannity or someone cosplaying as sean hannity and then they've pivoted to this whole idea of like this, like, you know, Kristen Welker put the topics out,
Starting point is 00:37:48 like talking about race relations, talking about the COVID responses, things like that. But the president's like campaign manager keeps insisting that this is a foreign policy debate and wrote like posted this letter that he sent to like the association for like, you know, presidential debates or whatever. And his tweet said,
Starting point is 00:38:08 We write with great concern over the announced topics for what was always billed as the, quote, foreign policy debate, end quote, in the series of events agreed to by both the Trump campaign and the Biden campaign many months ago. This is, I don't think think many people have had trouble finding where this was ever billed as a solely a foreign policy debate um even because like there's you know obviously topics that trump doesn't want to talk about but we all know that this whole insistence on foreign policy debate this is foreign policy where's the foreign policy is this code for president fuckface can only talk about hunter biden and can't get off of any other
Starting point is 00:38:46 subjects and the only way to get to hunter biden in a way that isn't non-shouty guy at the bus stop kind of way is to make this a foreign policy debate and they go on to say you know they're really digging this taking this whole thing we this is again from the trump campaign we understand that joe biden is desperate to avoid conversations about his own foreign policy record especially since president trump has secured historic peace agreements among israel the united ever and sabah right okay that's an arms deal so uh yes this is just one of the he you know he cannot let go of the hunter biden thing cannot fucking let go is the third debate traditionally like a foreign policy debate i think i remember that from before but that is also typically when
Starting point is 00:39:33 you have other debates actual politicians yeah and actual politicians this is going to be the first debate because the first the one that was supposed to be the first one was just a disaster with like a bunch of uh interrupting and just madness and then the second one trump quit on and then so this one is dude he quit and then fucking completely fucked it up for himself like he could he would have done better if he didn't even do a town hall and just let joe biden do his but he was so stuck on the ratings thing which he also apparently did not do better than Joe Biden in, is really hurting him. And the other thing is that, you know, he with this Hunter Biden thing, he can't stop talking about it. Right. He was on Fox Tuesday morning just screaming, saying Bill Barr needs to fucking arrest these people or investigate these people, not now, but fucking yesterday. ...media and many on the left are calling this a Russian disinformation campaign.
Starting point is 00:40:31 You addressed that. Many of the facts now, though, are being confirmed and authorized. And some are asking, will you appoint a special prosecutor to investigate this? In fact, 11 House Republicans have sent a letter. They said the following, we request that the Department of Justice immediately appoint an independent, unbiased special counsel to investigate these issues that have been raised, as well as any corresponding legal or ethical issues that might be uncovered from the former vice president's 47 years in public office. Will you be doing that? Will you be appointing a special prosecutor?
Starting point is 00:41:01 We've got to get the attorney general to act. He's got to act. And he's got to act fast he's got a access to you've got to appoint somebody this is a major corruption and this has to be known about before the election and by the way we're doing very well what we're going to win the election we're doing very well if you look at all of what's happening in all of the people that come in and don't come in you take a look all around the country and with texas early voting those are
Starting point is 00:41:25 our votes too and we're doing well in tech i mean i just got a report we're doing great in texas but we're doing great all over but forget that this has to be done early so the attorney general has to act first of all he sounds like shit uh i'll just say that off the top i don't know if he was taking a nap before that conversation he sounded sounded froggy. He sounded a little froggy. But yeah, I mean, just one detail of the story I had missed on the Hunter Biden thing that they had pitched that to the news section of Fox News. And the news section of Fox News had said, no, we're going to pass on it because it's bullshit.
Starting point is 00:42:02 We can't find confirmation. Rudy is untrustworthy. All the sourcing on this is very questionable. Even Fox News was like, hell no. The way that they eventually got it published, the person who wrote the article on the New York Post has never before had a byline on the New York Post. And she is somebody who has a history of working for Sean Hannity. So basically they just found a way to like launder a Sean Hannity opinion story
Starting point is 00:42:34 into a actual like fake news outlet. It's pretty wild just like how much they're grasping at straws like how little the story matters to people it's this october surprise obsession i think truly like they really you know i think they felt that this was gonna or at least the president thought this was gonna help sway things a bit but this is a completely like he's using the hillary clinton playbook on joe biden and people know joe biden uh you know just a little bit like know him more than hillary clinton in the sense that they're not like waiting to hear some kind of corruption story like yeah i knew it exactly hunter biden like those dynamics aren't the same so this is where you start to see his
Starting point is 00:43:22 lack of like savvy because everyone is talking about like this shit is not polling. It's not even working as a news story, like let alone something that could change the trajectory of your poll numbers in any way. And you got like fucking what's his name? Frank Luntz. Frank Luntz out here screaming. He's just so fucking pissed because you know he's a he's a gop ghoul and on a certain level and like for people who don't know he's like the main like poll expert for all things conservative i know exactly what party at his house oh really and
Starting point is 00:44:01 what happened in la and he has like a whole wonderland of his favorite things like he has like a whole he's so rich he has like a whole fake diner like he has a whole like he has a whole actual size with a blacks with a whites only section who knows like with working you know with working soda guns and everything and you know the whole thing yeah and he's got like a like a venue like a stage where he had some he had some like kind of famous band playing i think like oh shit but here's the here's the here's the thing nobody wait there's another thing nobody there nobody was there he had a party and just like your one friend showed up It was like she was somehow part of the musical thing, but there was nobody there.
Starting point is 00:44:46 It's just the evildoers get all the toys, but they have no friends. Yeah, it's a hollow black hole inside. They sit among their ill-gotten gains and think, what went wrong? Yeah. Speaking of Lunt saying what went wrong yeah well speaking of him saying what speaking of lunt saying what went wrong uh his his quotes on the trump campaign are harsh harsh not not totally surprising because he's
Starting point is 00:45:16 very like establishment and uh obviously trump plays by his own rules uh but this you know just looking at uh you know political uh realities like that people you know when you pull people nobody wants to hear about the hunter biden thing everybody's like yeah we don't it doesn't really resonate even his base yeah even his base is like okay we're we're we got it and we can move on yeah they're like but what about my prescription costs no yeah yeah no but i mean the the most damning quotes are coming out of the gop like from we've talked about sass and other people john cornyn yeah john cornyn uh luntz the today's damning gop quote is lunt saying i've never seen a campaign more miscalibrated than the Trump campaign frankly his staff ought to be brought up on charges of political malpractice
Starting point is 00:46:09 it is the worst campaign I've ever seen and I've been watching them since 1980 they're on the wrong issues, they're on the wrong message they've got their heads up their asses your damn job is to get your candidate to talk about things that are relevant to the people you need to reach and if you can't do your damn job is to get your candidate to talk about things that are relevant to the people you need to reach.
Starting point is 00:46:25 And if you can't do your damn job, then get out. Yeah. Cause he did his job. He, he rebranded torture, enhanced interrogation and got his own replica. Enhanced interrogation.
Starting point is 00:46:40 What the fuck? I just quickly, I think that the thing with the October surprise thing is Trump is so stupid in some ways. And so like he filters everything through like, um, I don't know, media tropes or something like,
Starting point is 00:46:55 I don't know. He only pays attention to him. He's like, I think he probably got confused and was like, he thought the October surprise was like a tradition, like Halloween or something. Like, I think he got confused and was like, what's october surprise was like a tradition like halloween or something like i think he got confused and was like what's our is it where's it coming what's it coming what yeah what's our october surprise and they're like well you don't always have one that's
Starting point is 00:47:15 something that's like kind of a thing that happened like you know what was the original one the the peace treaty in vietnam was like that was that's what gave it the name was the you know kissinger brokered the peace treaty but then managed to make it so they would wait to sign it till after or whatever i can't remember but they're it's not like you always get an october surprise they're like probably like donald we don't really have one you know yeah well he just i think he it's a tradition for the yeah he longs for the days of those that comey you know announcement about hillary and like that
Starting point is 00:47:46 was like oh see we need one of those you remember what that did baby i think he just thinks it comes with october like he's like where what is it did it come up he's like did we order it when did you when did you place the order we get it it's what is oh i love an october surprise i do think i mean i his instincts are not uh they don't come from nowhere. They are based on the fact that he like mainlines talk radio and Fox News opinion shit, like just the opinion section of the daily Fox News offerings. offerings but like that is good for turning out the base but it's not like that you know it hasn't been enough to reach those middle uh republican people seems to be like the the thesis heading into uh these last two weeks coming i mean the one more mainstream republicans i mean despite a lot of the early turnout because it's just been buku turnout uh in a lot of the early turnout, because it's just been beaucoup turnout in a lot of the states, Texas, Florida, they're like, we've never seen anything like this.
Starting point is 00:48:50 The turnout seems pretty strong. But also keep in mind, the Republicans have been aggressively registering people, too. I was looking at a comparison of the number of voters each party has been registering. Some have been like since March or some since August. And they are like two xing uh democratic registrations um you know and that's something to always keep in mind is like despite these polling there's just as much enthusiasm to keep this racist fantasy show going uh as long as possible as well so uh don't get this is i know it's easy to see all this panic
Starting point is 00:49:23 and it falling apart especially with a lot of his internal campaign staff like starting to already like point fingers internally to like pin the loss on somebody but i can't you know it everybody has to make sure they're doing whatever the fuck they can to uh oh yeah to support him and or you know support the you know to get this motherfucker out and as many down ballot candidates too because there are a few states where they're on the brink of some historic sort of recalibrations of state legislatures too
Starting point is 00:49:52 yeah and just also if he gets elected if Biden gets elected it's not just some kind of you know I know you guys must have talked about this but you know it's not some go back to sleep moment it's not just some kind of, you know, I know you guys must have talked about this, but, you know, it's not some go back to sleep moment. It's not like everything's fine.
Starting point is 00:50:08 You know what's sad, though? I know there's definitely a large group of people who that's what they want. Oh, yeah. Please just let me disengage. There are so many problems. I had to think about, like, wages and racism and immigration and things like that. Let me just, you know, numb myself. So yeah, I think it's important that everybody holds as many people as accountable as possible.
Starting point is 00:50:30 From spring or whatever. This is just all this is, is like, we're so corrupt in this country that this is like, what we're going to celebrate is another corporate president taking over. I mean, that is pretty bad. You know, uh, this's not some moment. This is not, we haven't overthrown shit if Trump loses. No, no, no. It's not some, all we've done is get ourselves in a big mess because none of us were paying attention to anything for like 40 years. And now, you know, so it's, I just, and this is me too. I'm not pointing a finger.
Starting point is 00:51:00 I lived in the suburbs for like 20 years and thought the news was something that just would work itself out. And it turns out that's not true. Right. Attack the throne and dethrone God via MSNBC. Is that what is it? That's MSNBC's new motto. All right. Let's take a quick break. I want to keep talking about this because there's a historian who has an election corollary that he thinks might be more realistic than 2000 and might be more Civil War-y. That's the adjective version of Civil War, right? We will be right back. I've been thinking about you.
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Starting point is 00:56:27 up with approximately one in 10 chance of Trump winning according to those rules. But we still have only a 35% chance that Biden wins in a landslide. And if he doesn't win in a landslide, that means that the chances are, you know, it's like 65% that there will be some just historic fuckery going on. Yeah. And so there's this historian from Penn State who was talking about how this might be very similar to the 1876 election where the federal branches were split along similar lines, though back then Republicans were the party of inclusion. So it's obviously not the same. But there was massive turnout. It's the biggest turnout in the history of a presidential
Starting point is 00:57:12 election. There was massive voter suppression. It was the first time that Southern Black men were voting, and it was also the first time since the Civil War that Confederate states were voting. And it was just so they say that in a combination of partisanship, divided government, high turnout and voter suppression produced contested results in Florida, Louisiana and South Carolina. And when both political parties pursued extensive legal challenges over those results, there was an unprecedented electoral crisis. That feels very possible. The thing that we learned from 2000 is that when you get down to a very close election in a state, it has nothing to do with who got the most votes. It's all about legal and political maneuvering and who is the shrewdest. And that has historically in modern history always been the Republicans. The big difference here being are all things that make our situation worse. They didn't have an incumbent president as one of the candidates. Ulysses S. Grant was done with his second term. They had just had the Civil War, and so were less inclined to let things escalate to violence. And so one of the candidates just basically,
Starting point is 00:58:36 he had a pretty good legal claim to office, but ultimately stood down to preserve the peaceful transfer of power, which I just don't see happening this time no matter i mean i guess i could see biden like even though he won stepping down to avoid a actual civil war but it's just where i feel like people are kind of checking out and being like well the headlines all say trump is fucked so let's know, just assume that's the case. And we really are probably headed for something that is historically chaotic and devastating to. Yeah, I think it's going to be all or none. Yeah, it's going to be super fucking chaotic or somehow like, oh, shit, he really just he just ran.
Starting point is 00:59:22 He really did just run away like that. OK. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. But he says he'll leave the country. Right. Yeah. If he loses. he really just he just ran he really did just run away like that okay yeah huh wow yeah yeah he said he's gonna leave the country right yeah if he loses i mean yeah i would too if i had that kind of legal jeopardy except i wouldn't say that out loud so they don't catch me at the airport on the night of november 3rd uh when i'm like fueling up the jet to get the fuck out i'll be like no i will be here till the end man are you kidding me i'll face any legal troubles i have are you kidding
Starting point is 00:59:43 me melania fire jet oh you still got that cough sorry mom so the whole thing with like you know Be here till the end, man. Are you kidding me? I'll face any legal troubles I have. Are you kidding me? Melania, fire up the jet. Oh, you still got that cough? Sorry, mom. So the whole thing with this contested results, it extends into the whole Amy Coney Barrett being seated in the Supreme Court as well. to overturn a decision that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court had made that was essentially saying that they were able to count ballots received by the Friday after the election, as long as they were sent by election day. All of the GOP-ers in Pennsylvania were like, no, no, no. If there's anything received after election day, it has to be thrown out no matter when it's postmarked. We just want those in the trash immediately. They were like, no,
Starting point is 01:00:23 we're not touching that. So everyone was like, oh, shit. Great. The Supreme Court actually cited to make it easier for people to vote and not invalidate these votes. But here's the fucking rub. So Chief Justice Roberts sided with the three libs on the fucking court. Then it's deadlocked. It was four four. And that's what makes Amy C coney barrett's uh appointment very troubling
Starting point is 01:00:46 because if there were to be another uh court case like this that makes it to the supreme court and we're already seeing how these numbers are shaking out uh she would potentially be the tiebreaker to fucking invalidate who knows what the fuck and through her confirmation hearings we've heard all the shit that she's said and not said very clearly she didn't she's barely clear on like what people's rights are she won't actually say whether or not the president is has to abide by a court decision yeah she like didn't take a side that was basically can the president just ignore you she was like well you know i don't know you know that's like there's both sides and that's a political thing and it's like yo that it what that just yeah i was basically
Starting point is 01:01:30 like do you believe in the monarchy like yes she acted like she wasn't allowed to answer any questions at all about anything for some reason like i i just don't think it would be appropriate for me to say whether i think that uh you know i don't know just any reasonable question are you excited do you think it'd be nice if godzilla came and stomped the whole country like i don't think it's appropriate uh for me to weigh in on that uh yeah and she just has no precedent that benign banality of evil vibe you know just like she has a stupid look on her face the whole time looking concerned and also vacant at the same time yeah yeah while declining to answer things about being like uh do you think voter suppression still exists you're not you're gonna
Starting point is 01:02:17 decline to answer that or voter intimidation is bad she even said oh if you're a felon you know you don't have the right to vote but you got your right to own a gun still. Wait, what? She said that? Yes. Yes, she wrote an opinion when she was an appeals court judge. So she's like, take it to the streets? I don't know, but that's where, like, where do you extend that to, right? So if you're saying you don't have the right to vote, but you have the right to a gun, what is your right to a gun for?
Starting point is 01:02:44 To protect yourself, or is it in the Constitution to vote, but you have the right to a gun, what is your right to a gun for to protect yourself? Or is it in the Constitution to take up arms against a tyrannical government? So are you saying because we're going to invalidate your ability to vote, but you can't get your gun to take to the street? Like what? I don't I'm failing to understand the logic of that. It's like, well, you know what we mean when we mean by felon, we mean people of color. So you can't vote. But also, let's not make the people in the gun lobby mad. You also have your gun. And she doesn't know what she's talking about and that's what an originalist is and being an originalist as she claims to be is to say that you are an idiot i i i don't i do i do
Starting point is 01:03:18 not mean that uh lightly i mean or i mean that i don't know how to say, for real. Heavily. Yeah, I mean that for real. Like, I mean, that is not a smart person. Originalism doesn't make any sense. It doesn't, the Constitution is vague anyway. It's like, it doesn't even make sense to be an originalist because then you would not believe in, you wouldn't even know what to do. You wouldn't even know a woman's right to vote.
Starting point is 01:03:44 Yeah, you wouldn't know what to do even a woman's right to vote yeah you wouldn't know what to do if you follow the constitution i mean it's just a stupid thing you say out loud because it sounds nice originalist they're all about branding it's just like it's like originalist i like the way that sounds that's frank luntz territory i'm sure he thinks that's great you know and it's same with packing the court i mean it's they're all slogans it's like shut up i mean i hate it and it works too because they're stupid oh follow you know i try and be you know what i mean it's like the people who follow them think they like those catchy things oh i can yell packing the court and i can yell original i mean i like originalist that sounds like a rap song or something you know i'm an originalist right shut the fuck up what does that mean
Starting point is 01:04:25 oh yeah watch me pack the court i'm an originalist they're trying to pack the court they're trying to pack the court wait a minute do you just like saying pack the court yeah trying to pack the club yeah yeah i mean this is like it's empty you're not an originalist oh no it's like yeah you're just saying like no it's it's not a bad thing to pack the court it's like saying i'm just trying to get as many people involved in the court like the club man you're trying to get everybody in here nah man let's pack the court y'all come on in that's what we're doing we're having a legal party in here amy coney barrett doesn't know what she stands for she stands for some vague idea of like it's like religion she feels like she's imbued with some
Starting point is 01:05:07 knowledge that can't be described or you know it would ruin it if she told what it was because it doesn't exist like i can't answer that because i operate on a level where i don't examine my own beliefs right i'm merely a vessel for darker aims she's law priest she's higher being law priest who will make decisions based on the like god beaming their message down onto her and none of that has anything to do with like whether you should have a fair election but she will apparently the the message that gets beamed to her will be uh that we should we shouldn't allow people to vote that's yeah i feel like somehow congruent with her beliefs she's vague in her answers because she's vague i believe in her head and a lot of those people are and they just leave it up to god and then they don't have to
Starting point is 01:06:02 explain themselves so like why'd you decide that? Because it contradicts that. And they're like, I really don't want to talk about that because it's all originalism. Yeah. And if I explain that, you will realize I have no place being on the Supreme Court because my biases are so over the top. And so would she.
Starting point is 01:06:21 I mean, I think that's the thing is they can't even do it themselves because they would be revealed to themselves to be full of shit. top and so would she i mean i think that's the thing is they can't even do it themselves because they would be revealed they would be revealed to themselves to be full of shit anyway she makes me mad yeah she makes i think a lot of people mad uh right now let's talk about the cabin miles a little overdue this is uh the show that was trending at the end of last week on Netflix that we decided to watch.
Starting point is 01:06:49 I also watched Pen15 Season 2, which I haven't given people a chance to watch, but we've been talking about it for a while. Oh, man. Y'all need to watch that. It might not be one of our official rewatches, but y'all need to watch that so we can start making references to it. Out of respect for the the show you will watch pen 15 and that is the most biased endorsement i can give
Starting point is 01:07:10 uh yeah shout out to my and anna pen 15 it's on hulu chris i'm really curious to see what you would think about it it's these two these two women they're comedians are really great actors as well they're playing they're they're they're like about in their their 30s early 30s but they're playing like 13 year old versions of themselves but like they're the only people that are adults like their other classmates are actual 13 year olds so they're and it's taking place in the late 90s and it's dealing with you know just coming of age as a young girl in the 90s and dealing with all kinds of, you know, just kids shit and junior high,
Starting point is 01:07:47 but it's done with this really, uh, great sense of humor. And yes, I, I, I will only say great things like this. And what's your,
Starting point is 01:07:54 what's your connection? Oh, uh, so I know, I know Maya and Anna personally and there, but Maya, especially our moms went to high school together in Japan. So she's like my sister.
Starting point is 01:08:06 Like I've, you know, I've, I've known her since I was born. You're not like technically, you're not like technically involved with it. You're just like rooting for it. Yeah. I'm just rooting for it. And also I'm always telling her, I'm like, when, when are you going to show me in the show? This is fucked up.
Starting point is 01:08:17 Hell yeah. You know what I mean? But you know, we'll see. I agree. We'll get a third and fourth season, but yeah yeah the cabin though uh on netflix i have you have you heard about it chris it has like a just burt kreischer and just a ton of these comedians so burt kreischer essentially the conceit is that like he's he's going way too hard on the road he's going to city to city doing all these shows he's not slowed down his imbibing drinking eating
Starting point is 01:08:41 whatever uh and he just needs a moment to kind of get back to you know brass tacks get connected to himself and earth again so he goes to a cabin and every episode a new batch of like other stand-ups that he knows come by to like sort of tackle a topic and not always comedians uh like whether it's about you know in like trauma or like strength okay your body and soul but it's always like it's an interesting show because it's like a podcast in that you're just hearing really funny people just talk about normal things but they're so funny it's interesting but the added benefit is that they're giving them a lot of activities to engage in that inspire a lot more conversation and things like that and i'm not
Starting point is 01:09:23 i don't really know anything about burke kreischer's actual stand-up i just know like of him as a brand uh but there are moments man like that are just really funny of these interactions with him and these other comedians that i you know i got to maybe the fourth episode i ended with the one with kaylee cuoco uh because miss pat just fucking she just she torched that episode with just her energy. I loved it. Yeah. So it's not scripted.
Starting point is 01:09:49 It's like a conversation. It's like a reality show, like podcast TV show, basically on Hulu. This one's on Netflix, Netflix, Netflix. Okay.
Starting point is 01:09:59 And 15 on Hulu. I've got to stand at a friend's house. I got all the fucking networks right now. I watched that Ted Bundy, the new Ted Bundy thing where theyulu. I've got to stand at a friend's house. I got all the fucking networks right now. I watched that Ted Bundy, the new Ted Bundy thing where they interview. I mean, it's actually from the woman's perspective for once, like where it's like talking to the victims and talking to his ex wife
Starting point is 01:10:15 speaks for not his ex wife, but his longtime girlfriend speaks for the first time. And like pretty good. And I also watched that, that bad show, the one about um wilderness of error that that the uh the one about the uh army captain yeah uh fatal vision that that that new documentary is not very good it's not uh errol morris doesn't direct it he just it's it's mark smerling who directed it who i don't think has ever directed anything before. Mark Smerling produced the jinx,
Starting point is 01:10:46 but he basically just rips off Errol Morris and then also drags Errol Morris into, like, tacking it on. Right, right. Yeah, anyway. It's based on an Errol Morris book. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:59 I would say Pen15, if you have the option, Pen15 before The the cabin, but the cabin is just more like, you know, pen 15 is great art. The cabin is like a good hang. It's like, yeah, you're just hanging out with fun people. I don't get to have a cabin. Hey, anybody listening to this and wants to give Chris Crofton a cabin, give me one. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:11:21 No, I would just think it's like the, the format is so malleable that i would watch a version where it's the chris crofton's version well miles miles what about chris crofton and miles gray's cabin where we watch movies that chris crofton hasn't seen like jurassic park yeah oh okay yeah well yeah we got to talk about that i still definitely got to talk about that kind of a good idea but yeah the show is it's uh which how many episodes did you watch jack uh i just watched the first one and then like most of the kaylee cuoco one um it's pretty good why did you bring it up because we we do a rewatch every uh every week where we pick something from the netflix top 10 and just like just react to it because it's got to it late this week because i was out on the day we normally record it so we shifted
Starting point is 01:12:09 a day sorry we didn't warn you chris oh no it's fine so anyway yeah well i'll do one then uh go watch that that new ted bundy thing and it's like uh if you like ted bundy and i don't mean that i don't mean that to sound the way it sounded yeah but if you like true crime stuff if you like true crime stuff ted bundy is an interesting character because he was like basically the a psychopath that was the best at imitating being a real real person right kind of charming yeah he had the thing that we look for in our movie psychopaths which is like he was really like engaging and smart and so people uh you know that that's what we always want sociopaths to be when we create a movie character but they oftentimes aren't that patrick bateman
Starting point is 01:13:01 vibe yeah yeah he raised uh this his girlfriend's daughter like was raised by him partly and she actually well he was a she said he was great up until a point and then he was he did some like she talked about some he did some fucking ted bundy shit too jesus anyway the the weird thing about the burt kreischer thing uh the cabin like he's up there supposedly getting like it seems like his wife is like genuinely concerned for his health uh and he's up there like partying instead which is like funny but it also seems like I don't know there's like a weird thing the first episode is about like you know it introduces the concept that like, Hey, I'm up here,
Starting point is 01:13:46 you know, trying to calm things down in my life. Cause I've been partying too hard. Uh, Bert Kreischer, as we talked about in a recent episode was, was the, uh,
Starting point is 01:13:56 inspiration for van Wilder. Like he was like the best at partying in college of all time, but he, it's like, they have Joey diaz there too who's like you know older comedian and he just like looks like a i don't know like a bulldog yeah it's like somebody who has an old bulldog who's just laying down in the corner that's like the after in a cautionary tale of what happens to Bert Kreischer if he doesn't settle down. He just seems like he's out of breath the whole time. I want to do Chris Crofton's cabin
Starting point is 01:14:30 except I'm going to have people no one's ever heard of like my mom and the next door neighbor and the gas company guy. Yeah. Front yard. You'll have front yard there. Front yard. Hey, gas company guy, get in here. Hey, scream something out about your
Starting point is 01:14:45 frustrations with your father come on let's do this gas company get over here gas company that's a great name for a dog too we did talk about the kaylee cuoco one uh when we were teasing this so we should we should talk about that episode so So that's Miss Pat, who is just- And yeah, Joel McHale, Miss Pat. I didn't realize, I didn't know her background. Like she was trafficking coke. Yeah. And she's, I mean, she's bad.
Starting point is 01:15:15 And the way she does not hold back, you know, and she does it like, it's never like, it's like one of those things, right? You know how some people, they fuck with you because they love you? Yeah yeah that's like exactly what her vibe is like she goes hard uh just because it's not that she doesn't like you it's like you know that's just how some people operate it's like i just fuck with you that's just my mode of getting down but the way she the way she has kaylee cuoco just shook uh with her you know saying like i don't fuck with big bang theory i
Starting point is 01:15:46 don't know what i don't understand it it's too fucking nerdy um and i don't know why y'all got paid a million dollars an episode it's done in a very fun way although everyone else at the table is very uncomfortable because i think it's one of those things like a little too real you know i think we all know that uh a million dollars an episode was, uh, it doesn't, it doesn't make sense, but whatever. It's the biggest show in the fucking world. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:09 So she was, yeah, she's in the big bang theory and, uh, miss Pat is just like, yeah, that's, I don't,
Starting point is 01:16:17 I don't think you deserve that. Essentially. I don't think you deserve your success. Yeah. Just fuck it with it. Right. Who's miss Pat. She's a standup comedian, a standup comedian. Oh, I've heard. Okay. deserve your success. Yeah. Just fuck it with it. Right. Who's Miss Pat? She's a standup comedian,
Starting point is 01:16:27 a standup comedian. Oh, I've heard. Okay. I was thinking. But it's just like the Kaylee Cuoco thing is just like, she responds the way a sensitive person would to that. And just like,
Starting point is 01:16:39 doesn't take it the way it's intended. And ultimately like leaves before the show's over oh really yeah well i think she had to go somewhere right it seemed like maybe yeah do you think she just literally was like smoke bombed out of there she's like i believe so i don't nobody else nobody else leaves early do they note to self if you ever be kaylee cuoco tell her how badass big bang theory is yeah hey note to self if you meet a celebrity don't talk shit about anything they've done or else they can't handle it it'll run away i mean i i guarantee everybody involved with the uh production would swear up and down that she had a thing to go and it was understood she would be leaving early like from the start
Starting point is 01:17:26 but she just yeah kaylee cuoco had like i'm not used to being around black women energy yes that's right you know she was like i don't know if it's a joke do you not like me i know you're talking loud is that anger i don't know like it's really intense so i'm gonna just go like i'm loving it i love you miss pat um she got her nipple shot off in a drive by she's like you only need one oh my god wait is that true yeah she was trafficking cocaine
Starting point is 01:17:56 back in the day she was like and she was in she had actually gone to prison and then you know got into stand up really interesting back story didn't know about the nipple though yeah gone to prison and then uh you know got into stand-up really interesting backstory a little bit about didn't know that uh about the nipple though yeah all right chris it has been a pleasure as always having you uh where can people find you and follow you you can follow me thank you it's
Starting point is 01:18:19 been a pleasure as well jack and miles uh it uh You can find me on old Instagram at Chris underscore Crofton, where I put up endless cold brew got-me-like memes. You can follow me on at The Crofton Show on Twitter, where I almost every day do poems by request
Starting point is 01:18:40 called Poetry Window. It's one of my favorite things I've done during this pandemic for myself, and I think other people have had fun with it too. They're amazing. The tattoo one I really loved. Thanks so much. I've accidentally recommended poetry to anybody.
Starting point is 01:18:57 It's kind of fun to write every day and it's a way to do it where you don't feel like you have to write a book. And then you can read my Advice King column. It's called The Advice King, and you can just Google The Advice King. It's through the Nashville scene.
Starting point is 01:19:12 I'm very grateful for the Nashville scene. I'm doing a telethon for Marquita Bradshaw today with Third Man Records, but I think you can stream it probably. The show is not going to come out until tomorrow, but Marquita Bradshaw is a black female Senate candidate in Nashville. I think all things that have never happened
Starting point is 01:19:34 in Tennessee. I'm very excited about her. She wants to legalize weed. I know you guys smoke weed. Vote for Marquita Bradadshaw and um and um that's it yeah uh is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying well i like buddy anthony diaz's uh tweet i don't usually get vulnerable on twitter but this poem
Starting point is 01:20:03 means a lot to me i hope it inspires you as well. And then he put a picture of a poem that you can't read. It's too blurry. I like Nate of the Living Dead. Did Guns N' Roses only criteria for calling a place paradise? Number one, women are attractive. Number two, grass normal color so that's what i got i love that because there's like all these uh
Starting point is 01:20:33 urban legends like different cities claiming that it's uh that it's their town i think louisville has it and like indianapolis has it and uh it's like, well, I mean, is your grass green? Because if so, you've got to claim you've got to see. It's so specific. Miles, where can people find you? What's tweet you've been enjoying? Oh, find me Twitter, Instagram at Miles of Gray. Also on the other podcast for 20 day fiance uh some
Starting point is 01:21:07 tweets that i like i just dabbled very briefly on twitter and i came across some things that warm my heart first one is from packs past guest caitlyn gill at robot caitlyn she tweeted seven years together and we still know how to have a good time and it's her it's her partner standing underneath a ceiling fan trying to throw something between the fan blades to hit the ceiling and then come back down without hitting the ceiling fans we've all played this game and she finesses the fuck out of the toss and it's so i don't know it's just so stupid but i love it because we all know that that thrill of being like you did it you fucking did it kid you got
Starting point is 01:21:45 it through the ceiling fan blades easily nothing happened um and then another one is just from at will summer um talking about you know q anon stuff has been you know rattling around the news and there's this guy austin steinbart who's who was arrested recently again and he has to face a judge and this is what will summer tweeted at will summer s-o-m-m-e-r he said some q anon news q anon figure austin steinbart who goes by the alias baby q and has claimed to be the leader of q anon visiting from the future via time travel just filed to act as his own attorney in a federal felony case what could go wrong um yeah and this guy really does he has his own he has like a he has
Starting point is 01:22:25 his own sort of brand within the q anon world but where he is saying like he is actually leaving clues for his this present version self from q around all this shit but then he was also uh caught with one of those fake penises when he had to do a drug test also recently so there's this there's all kinds of stuff going on with q world right now oh hell yeah man that guy rules uh except for the q stuff uh at tweet potato 314 tweeted genie genie usually people don't make the same wish three times jay jonah jameson pounding desk. More Spider-Man pictures. Dave Horowitz tweeted, Want to feel old? Look in the mirror, you fucking dinosaur. Old-ass bitch.
Starting point is 01:23:18 He got me. I did look in the... And then Josh Gondelman tweeted, Monotony comes from the Italian phrase meaning just one Tony, which is slang for a dull situation in Italy. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:23:42 We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we ride out on. Miles, what are we riding out on today? You know, it's a Moses Sumney track. You probably know the original, Make Out In My Car, but the James Blake version.
Starting point is 01:24:04 You know, James Blakeake he knows he just knows how to tickle those old piano keys or synth keys from time to time so this james blake version of make out in my car by most of some people that it's just got i don't know it's got those vibes just to get you through the week because it's hump day so maybe uh yeah get through your hump day i thought i i thought i had something clever and I didn't. So just I'll let the music do the talking. Do love a James Blake remix. Well, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio.
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