The Daily Zeitgeist - Of Course Sean Hannity, TV IS NOT REAL LIFE DONALD 4.17.18

Episode Date: April 17, 2018

In episode 128, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Adam Lustick to discuss Kendrick Lamar's Pulitzer Prize win, Adam Pally's meltdown at the Shorty Awards, Neil Gorsuch's liberal vote for immigration deportation law, Michael Cohen's third client Sean Hannity and his misunderstanding of 'attorney-client-confidentiality,' the New Yorker article breaking down all the Trump families crimes, Kanye West tweeting again, Drake's album coming out soon, a women partially being sucked out of a Southwest Airlines window, Cardi B losing money at Coachella, a quick appropriation check in with Woah Vicky, Bhad Bhabie, Lil Tay, & more!  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Wait, so what does that make you? He knows Jack MeHawk. Yep. Yeah, we both grew up with it. Fell for it. One of my favorite memories from growing up is that old bit. Mr. Jack Holman, I feel for you. And I am fine to be joined by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray.

You know, they always ask me, Miles, can you please stop smoking la-la? Jack, why try? I'm a thug. I'm a da-ha. Okay? Shout out to Mace. Mace and Beth from Harlem. One of my favorite rappers of all time.

And yeah, that AK comes to us from the one and only Christy Yamaguchi-Main. Amazing. That's a great Twitter. Amazing Display name The handle is actually At crispy meme donut So either way It's a pun filled adventure

H-A-W-A-A-A We are thrilled To be joined In our third seat By the hilarious Comedian Writer Actor

Performer Mr. Adam Luster Thank you for having me back guys I've been Ever since I was last here actor, performer, Mr. Adam Luster! Thank you for having me back, guys. Ever since I was last here, I've just been awake, standing, waiting for the call. So I really appreciate being back.

Just in a dark closet. I'm sorry I called the cops on you last week. I thought you were someone breaking into the building. I wish you had me. I really did. I was like, yo, he's pacing outside the door, officer. Can you do something? Yeah. You're healing nicely, though.

Thank you. Plus, they arrested both of us. I was like, I'm the dude who called. You're like, no, I don't believe it. But we're all good now. Yeah. Adam, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Okay.

Where you are? Yeah. Okay. We're going there, huh? I think something that I've searched recently is could I pull off a onesie? So I bought kind of a flight suit recently. I don't know if you guys, you guys are both very stylish. I don't know if you've sort of hopped on this trend of like the male, I mean the male romper

that was like 18 news cycles ago, obviously. The romp him. The romp him. Right. But I'm talking about this is like a proper flight suit, sort of really makes me feel kind of military and like a bomber pilot. But I feel self-conscious wearing it out. My wife, the old, the boss.

I hear you. You know what I mean? Back home. Spouses. I'll tell you how it is back at home for me. I mean, Her Majesty doesn't want me wearing soccer jerseys after dinner, you know, bro. Happy marriages are the worst. And I'm not even married, bro.

But my wife Maggie has been telling me, really encouraging me, pushing me to take bold risks, fashion risks. There you go. She says that the other side of the patriarchy is that men feel hemmed in and they feel like they can't take big, bold fashion swings. Totally. So I want to be the kind of guy that can lead by example and wear this onesie out, but I feel self-conscious. So I've been Googling, could I pull this off Google? Almost referring to Google as my personal diary. Yeah, and as if Google has already seen you and then can compare that with your own-

I think I'm using Google correctly. Yeah. Now, what's- So the flight suit is like a legit military flight suit? Yeah, it's nice. It's like a big navy blue, sort of a big one piece with like nice sturdy buttons and it kind of feels like Vietnam era okay but it feels like proper military fight suit yeah and you've always been a fan of America's work in Vietnam right

you know yeah you know me so that's a k aka Agent Orange okay orange out of Agent Orange lustic yeah but anyway so I have a long sleeve long leg like I want to see a three-quarter sleeve Oh interest all the way to leggings all the way down, full situation. It's a bit of a complicated idea if you have to urinate. There's an extra step involved. Does it have a butt flap? It has no butt flap.

For foam potty? No butt flap, no potty flap. But if you guys wanted to hop on board, then maybe the three of us could. Yeah. Then we'll just look like interracial Beastie Boys. That's what I was hoping for. Three works like that. That's't feel so alone. Then we'll just look like interracial Beastie Boys. That's what I was hoping for. Three works like that. That's why I came today.

My wife's best friend has a similar thing, and I always make fun of her every time she wears it, and I secretly think it's super cool. Exactly. Well, the secret's out. Even if people give you shit. Secret's out. Whoever makes that flight suit, holler at us, and maybe we can get a little endorsement deal going. Exactly.

There you go. Daily Zeitgeist flight suits. Official uniform of the Zeit gang. Exactly. A Zeit suit? There were Zoot suits, now there's Zeit suits. Adam, what is something besides just casually wearing flight suits

that is underrated? Okay, I made a trip home recently. I'm from upstate New York, and I just want to give an obvious, very sort of cliched shout out to mid-sized airports albany airports smaller deliberately small humble airports right i feel like as someone just lived in new york city and and los angeles for the majority of my adult life enough to brag brag i'm almost yeah so international yeah exactly bi-coastal jfk and lax are horrible city they're like the worst cities

i've ever visited. Yes. And so it was nice. The Albany airport is very, very chill. There's like two gates. There's like a very relaxed Hudson Valley architecture exhibit there. Like the art in these mid-sized airports, I feel like it's kind of elevated. And New York and LA, in these big cities, they don't feel the need to impress you with the airport.

Right. The interior of the airport. Like you're in the city. You're not here to see LA. You're here to see LA. They're like, fuck you. You're here. We got more people coming. Exactly. Get the interior of the airport. You're in the city. You're not here to see LA. You're here to see LA. Fuck you. We got more people coming in. Get the fuck out.

Exactly. But I feel like small towns, like Albany really put a lot of TLC into the airport decor. Albany's no small town now. You're right. That's right. That's right.

Before the Albany Zeitgang comes at you because I remember when Jack called Ottawa a town and motherfucking mentions- It is the capital of Canada. The maple hive came out for him. Came over his neck. But you know, airports are like, the Eugene airport is like that too. Is it nice?

That was one of my first moments. I'm like, I like this small airport. There's no hassle in it. You're there, you're in, you're out. Also, gotta shout out the Vancouver airport. YVR up there in Canada. Is it good? My man, they just run a tight ship up there in Canada. Woo! Is it good? Oh, man. They just run a tight ship up there.

It's so clean. It's so beautiful. And they got the Japanese hot dog cart outside. I'm just loving it. What's Japanese about the hot dog cart? The Okidog? Oh, the Okidog. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yep, yep. Cool. What is the art installation at the Albany? I'm sorry. It's not Okidog. It's the Japadog up there in Vancouver. That seems offensive to me for some reason. Well, luckily, it's...

Jappy. Luckily, yeah. The Japanese people are running it, so I can't really puff my chest out on them because I came in there speaking Japanese and they're like, they were down. It's almost like there's a racist phrase that is Japa something that they know that I don't know. That it's a play on.

But that's a Japanese person just thinking like, oh, Japanese hot dog. Japa dog. So do you. Japa dog. Exactly. And it's almost like if a racist tree falls in the forest and we're not going to see it, is it racist? If we don't know about it. Yeah.

Jury's out. But the art in the Albany airport was like, because Albany's in the Hudson Valley, there's all these like beautiful sort of log-ish, cabin-y, Adirondack-y type homes. And it was just this cool exhibit that was sort of flattened out 2D artist renderings of like these cool Adirondack-y Hudson Valley wood log homes. Oh, cool. It was just kind of cool. Yeah. And I know I sound like a 68-year-old man saying that, but.

That would be a dope podcast where we take little flights and rank the little airports of America. Little flights. Yeah. Little flights. Little flights with Adam and Miles. I forget where it was.

It was at a major airport. Maybe it was LAX, where I saw like a piece of art and I was like, you know, if that wasn't in a major airport, I would think it was cool because like the context and everyone's just aggressively unhappy. I hate it. That's exactly right. Yeah. And in those huge airports, everyone is miserable.

It is a misery stew as it should be. But these small airports are like, oh, I get why flying is nice. Right. Yeah. And also, I think, you know, that's funny, because I think my dad has an art piece in LAX. Oh, does he? Him or my stepmom does, for sure.

That's pretty cool. So you may have been talking, was it like a moving video thing, like having to do with film and stuff? No, no, no, it was just like birds. It was like a sculpture made of birds. Oh, no, that's some bullshit, man. Yeah, yeah.

I think it was just outside. I don't know. A sculpture made of birds tweeting. And there was sunshine. Also how I describe nature. I don't know, my's some bullshit, man. Yeah, yeah. I think it was just outside. I don't know. A sculpture made of birds tweeting. And there was sunshine. Also how I describe nature. I don't know. My dad probably listens, so let me know if I fucked up. Adam, what is something that's overrated?

Okay, overrated. So I'm going to say, just sort of based on the news of the week, I'm going to say just being tall. I feel like tall people get a lot of instant cred. And they assume instant authority. And there is this strong implicit bias. I'm sure the Nate Silvers of the world have done countless studies about how tall people get everything they want. But this James Comey thing, I'll tell you. Dude's 6'8".

And The Onion put out a funny headline yesterday that was like, James Comey, I'm just like a messy bitch from New Jersey who lives for drama. And the truth is, he kind of is. He kind of a little bit is that, even though he's like a six foot eight like sort of statuesque tall ass dude, he is a broken, sensitive, insecure, messy little bitch from New Jersey who lives for drama. That's true and just because you're six eight

doesn't mean you're not messy. That's all. He's messy. Especially when he was like Trump's tie, which is long, overly, like more long than it should have been.

Exactly. As normal. Yeah. As usual. Yeah, as usual. Too long. Little white half moons under his eyes.

Snarking about his eyes. Which I'm assuming are from tanning goggles. Okay, buddy. All right, man. Just because you live in a house with like your wife and daughters are like,

you fucked up Hillary's chance to be president. Right, exactly. Oh, man. Yeah. And he's like, I was damned if either way so that's right and the other side of that coin is like i almost empathize for tall men and like tall women who are who do are like riddled with insecurities and just like a normal human being because again this implicit bias just like comes baked into our culture like tall is authoritative yeah it's just sort of in our blitter brain so i don't know i kind of feel for him in a way, but also like tall people are weird.

Tall people can be weird and sad and bad. Nick is Sean Bradley. Nick is Sean Bradley. Oh, man. If you want to. Seven foot dunked on all day. I'll step to Sean Bradley. Exactly.

Like that's a tall person. There is no bias. Exactly. You look like that one monster from Space Jam, motherfucker. Back up. Exactly. And finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true that you know to be false?

Okay. Exactly. And finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true that you know to be false? Okay, I'm going to say that intergenerational living, I think, is maybe tabooed in this in America, like living with ma, living with abuela kind of situation. I love it. My wife and I have been living with her mother, my mother-in-law, here in Los Angeles for six years. And I have to tell you, it's the best. Oh, really? It's really, really great.

That's cool. My relationship with my mother-in-law has only strengthened and deepened and become more nuanced and rich and enriching and nourishing and fulfilling. So I just want to say that, yeah, intergenerational living. And also, Miles and I were talking about this off mic, we're also looking to get our own house, obviously. But there's something really, really wonderful about living with mom slash dad. I would recommend it to anyone i know it's also like the millennial thing we're all broken like we all have to we're gonna have a choice so make it a lifestyle choice lifestyle yeah the pleasure of it yeah

that's what i just hope like when i go on dates when i lived at my mom's house i'm like yeah you know i just love my mom you know i don't want to stay with her so that's why i live here yeah i mean it's very common in other countries yeah exactly like japan like yo the family is there like there's no that's like it's like you're not leaving the house until you're married and you have a reason to leave the house understood that's like the base that's the expectation yeah and also when your parents get older they're coming back that's exactly no i think my parents-in-law will probably move in with us eventually yeah right yeah and i will be so happy when i do because they're awesome. It is nice.

And we could use the babysitting. Exactly. Whoa, okay. Okay, Jesus, Jack. Oh, now we find out. Now it's about babysitting. Oh, I'd love for them to be here. I mean, not because I want them to be babysitters, because I love them.

Yes, I love them and their babysitting ability. And their free time. Gotta put them to work. My favorite thing about them is their free time. Yes. Yeah. All right. We are trying to take a sample of

what people are thinking and talking about right now. The national slash global shared consciousness. And we wanted to start out with they announced the Pulitzers. Yeah. Recently. Something called the New York Times won a couple. Never heard of them. The New Yorker.

Failing. For some of their Harvey Weinstein reportage. Ronan Farrow specifically, right? Yes, Ronan Farrow specifically. Nice. NBC, whoops. NBC, whoops, yeah. Yeah.

But in the music category, which I did not know there was a Pulitzer for music, they decided to give it to Kendrick Lamar for damn. Unbelievable. So cool. Kung Fu Kenny. So cool. Kung Fu Kenny got a Pulitzer. Is it one of those things I ask out of ignorance, like where there is a music one every

year and they have to give it, or it's like a Peabody, but it's like only when it's deserving. There is, but usually it's like for more like academic forms of music. Yes. Let me actually read to you the description of last year's Pulitzer winner in the music category. Great. It is called Angel's Bone. It is an

opera by composer Du Yun and librettist Royce Vavreck in one act that follows the plight of two angels discovered on earth who are forced into spiritual and sexual slavery at the hands of a financially troubled couple.

The work is contemporary parable about human trafficking. So that is what they're normally giving it to and they listened to damn and they were like holy shit this now wait this now they're like i don't remember anything from angel's bone but i do remember my left stroke just went by and everybody everybody knows that i mean it's amazing because before that like people like miles davis and shit never even won these awards or sometimes they were giving them to jazz people and things like that. So he's the first rapper.

I love the way they describe it, because it just shows you how sort of academic this is. They describe the album as a virtuosic song collection unified by its vernacular authenticity and rhythmic dynamism that offers affecting vignettes capturing the complexity of modern African-American life. A.K.A. full of bangers.

Full of bangers. Yeah. Full of bangers. That shit slaps. It slaps. It slaps. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like, yeah, it's well played to him. And it's great because, you know, I think they're also mentioning in this article that, yeah, in 2017, the combined genres of R&B and hip hop proved to be the most consumed

music in the U.S. for the first time in history. So it's only natural that, oh, of course, this might be a great work. And it's one of the, it is an amazing album. Totally agree. He's one of the poets and I feel like seers of our age. I also feel like a little bit, maybe this is just my album bias, I love To Pimp a Butterfly so much that I almost feel like this is a little bit like the Denzel Oscar for Training Day, where it's like more of like, we show, To Pimp a Butterfly was really amazing.

Let's give it to almost like not a real, a career achievement award because Kendrick's only, only 29 years old or whatever. Yeah. But finally he won. Finally. Okay. Right.

It's amazing. We'll throw him a Pulitzer. Yeah, exactly. Uh, yeah. That's Kendrick at the same time. Damn.

It's pretty fucking good. So good. And it's, it is validate like, you know, so much, uh, internet journalism and analysis is done like on twitter

being like you can listen to it backwards and it still works oh really yeah like it reverse song order yeah uh it like tells a story just like it does forward yes but you know it's kind of validating to have the pulitzer be like yeah you, put it in those academic words. Yeah, right. Larified air. Basically say the same exact shit. Right, yeah, exactly. Because if I was trying to explain to like some older academic people, I'd be like,

it's actually this sort of virtuosic song collection unified by its vernacular authenticity. I do wonder how much of it is just like that rap genius exists now and these people can like

look at the lyrics and be like, holy shit, that meant five different things? Yeah, exactly. Wow, he has loyalty and royalty inside of him. Deoxy ribose nucleic acid. Is this a science album?

Yeah, yeah. It is funny, though. I feel a little weird, though, because, like, I think award shows are weird. And, like, awards are, I just feel mixed feelings about feeling good. And, like, I also feel like Kendrick is validated. There is a certain amount of objective validation. He's a Pulitzer now. But I resent a little bit the cultural framework and the paradigm that awards are needed to validate someone.

But it's true. It just is true. It feels good to be awarded and to be acknowledged. But even if Kenny didn't win a Pulitzer, everybody would know he is by far head and shoulders beyond anybody right now in terms of like his lyricism. No doubt about it. It's crazy. Truth.

Also, Mike Peska, who has another daily podcast, The Gist, which isn't as good. You don't need to check it out. But he made a really good point that this also- But he made a really good point. That I will summarize for you so you don't have to listen to it. I mean, I don't know why I was listening to it. No, he's actually really good and you don't have to listen to me i don't know why i was listening to him no he's actually really good and uh you can totally listen to him uh but he made the point that uh this is actually also fox news's first and only pulitzer oh uh because there's a quote

from geraldo rivera on the kendrick oh that's funny so that's so funny that's the closest they've gotten to the pulitzer is uh is that Geraldo Rivera is quoted as saying that rap music has done more to damage black youth than racism. Right, right. Good point. Really, really insightful searing point. And you will go down forever as the dumbass who made it. Oh, God. down forever as the dumbass who made it.

So we also wanted to just touch on a great piece of theater put on by Adam Pally. Oh, yes. Speaking of award shows. He shit on the world's worst award show that I didn't even know existed.

Something called The Shorty. While presenting at The Shorty, at the World's Worst Work Show. Yes. We have a couple of clips of him. It's almost like he's having an existential meltdown. Yeah, because the shorties are basically awards for social media. Branding.

Even branding and shit. Yeah. And I think it was just kind of funny where he's just sort of, as he's doing it, he's realizing how empty this whole thing is. It's like a Black Mirror episode. It is. Like where he's like, I'm supposed to tell Wendy's their... Instagram is good?

Yeah, exactly. I hate myself. And computers. This award honors those brands that have the best year-long presence on instagram so i'll be giving an award to a brand considering how many brands are putting all of their resources into into instagram it's wildly impressive is it also remember that winner that was up here saying that she was in college to be an engineer but dropped out to play video games? Don't do that.

That's good advice. Thank you. Thank you. Some just English teacher who happens to be there. Finally. She thinks it worked out for her, but in six months, she will be trying to get back into that school. Because there will be a new video game that she doesn't know how to play.

Tonight, we pay tribute to those... This is later. Who are not with us. We're going to do an ememorium for a bunch of... I don't know, like MySpace or some shit. I don't know. Just couldn't finish this up. And then someone intervenes.

We're going to finish this up. It is really weird. The GoPro guy came up and he's holding a GoPro on a stick and looks like a caricature of like a tech douche. Yeah. And he's like, oh, thanks a lot for setting us up bro yeah it's a tricky balance because like of course it's the worst of course like a war shows for brands are like so innately hollow and weird and horrible and like wendy's like sick af like it's

so obnoxious of course but also like damn it like adam and i are peers like we kind of came up together they used to be like and now am i of the generation that's like the cranky old man like get off my lawn. Like these, what is this? These kids and their Instagram. Well, not even, I think objectively, it's just this dumb, like let's pat ourselves on the back. Yeah. Quote unquote award show.

Yeah. But I mean, it's funny to know, like, I wonder what happened that he agreed to do this maybe months ago. Forgot he had to do it was maybe having a bad day and was like, you know what? I'm doing the sort of the cost benefit analysis of like just self-immolating up here yes and you know what fuck it i don't care i don't care if i never do another shorties awards again worth it yeah he's uh adam pally is from uh happy endings where would people know him from happy he's also the ep of the president show he produces the president show on comedy central yeah just a really funny dude super He's a super hysterical. Also had the best edition of the, what show was it that he guest hosted?

Yes, this was great. In between post-Craig Ferguson retiring, pre-James Corden coming on the show, they had a string of guest late, late show hosts. And one of the better ones was Adam Pally and Ben Schwartz as his sort of like Ed McMahon. Very, very funny. So Adam, I mean mean he's so hysterical and obviously this is so funny

because like what are these fucking what is I mean he was the sane person in an insane world yeah

right what the fuck is this an in memoriam for Vine it also doesn't feel very calculated like I don't get the sense that he was back there

like yeah fuck it like I feel like he got up there and was like alright I'm to just go through with this. And you can see him just sort of giving up as he reads the teleprompter. Well, I think he started off being like, I'm at the waiting in the DMV equivalent of a Wario Show. And I don't think that was scripted. No, I don't think so either.

So I think his first at-bat, he's swinging for the stands of Spiceville. It is a good point, Jack. It is fun and rewarding to see someone give up in real time, to watch it and hear it in their voice and watch it in their body language. Because how many of us are brave to rage quit like that? Exactly. Myspace or some shit. Anyways. Very funny.

And then just real quick, some late breaking news. Neil Gorsuch has broken liberal. The Supreme Court on Tuesday ruled that part of the federal law that makes it easier to deport immigrants convicted of crimes is too vague, which is a big blow to Trump and his sort of, this was a- His xenophobic goblin. Exactly. Trump and his sort of this was a xenophobic goblin this was considered a signature issue and the Supreme Court ruled 5-4 that Trump and his side were in the

wrong and Gorsuch who was supposed to be their conservative savior the one who they held out to nominate was like nah yeah well hey maybe Merrick Garland just haunted him in his dream.

Guess what, motherfucker? You better do it right. It's also just such a testament to how evil the xenophobic goblin crew is that Neil Gorsuch, bizarre 18th century wooden man, believes that even that's a bridge too far for me, Neil Gorsuch.

It's been a theme this week, which we'll get into too. There have been a few times where people who you thought were allies of this kind of thinking were even like, that's too far. That's, this might be a little too far. People who were allies of that kind of thinking like last week are now even being like, oh, this is not good. A lot of inhaling through clenched teeth. That's exactly right. All right. we're going to take a quick break.

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This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. And we wanted to talk about the raid that happened last week on Michael Cohen, Donald Trump's lawyer, because it's sort of slowly dawning on us all of the ramifications that this has. And yesterday, Colin and his lawyer had a day in court. And I don't know, there were a couple of surprises. Plot twists. They were basically in there begging the judge to be like,

don't let the prosecutors look at whatever they took. Can you promise us that, judge? And the judge was like, fuck out of here. What the fuck are you talking about? No. can you promise us that judge? And the judge was like, no,

get out of here. What the fuck are you talking about? No. Uh, I mean, but we, maybe I'll entertain the idea of like a special master or something. I think is what she said, which was like a third party to look so that the prosecutors wouldn't see either or whatever,

whatever. Yeah. And there was also talks of teams about what communications are tainted or whatnot. Unfortunately, it's not about the perennial area. Is that what you call it? The perineum, the taint itself it's not about the perennial area. Is that what you call it? The perineum? The taint itself?

Perennial flowers? Look, I don't know. So here's the deal. I'm not a biologist. But what I am is someone who wildly speculates on a podcast about what things mean in court. So one of the things was over the weekend, the judge was like, you need to disclose who your clients are so we don't have an idea what's going on. the weekend, the judge was like, you need to disclose who your clients are so we don't have an idea

what's going on. So before they filed, he did disclose that Donald Trump and Elliot Broidy who was the RNC fundraiser who also had a Playboy mistress thing. That broke last week. He paid a Playboy mistress one point something million dollars. And then there's another Playboy bunny

who's also saying she was involved with Trump back in the day. Just like a Playboy is involved is so 80s. I can't believe how 80s this all is. Trump is the most 80s. It feels great to know that Jamie Loftus and I were both employed by Playboy at one point. Anyway, so yes, he had to disclose it too and then they said

well we're not going to say who the third one is. Because it would be embarrassing. And then the judge was like, that is not a valid legal excuse. Embarrassment is not a thing. So the judge says who is that is not a valid legal excuse. Embarrassment is not a thing. Yeah, exactly. So the judge says, who is it? Or like, why would it be embarrassing? And now here's where the lawyer could have written down on a piece of paper,

slid it to the judge and been like, there, do you see? And the judge could have been like, okay, let me take this under advisement and we'll make a decision on it. Instead, the guy was like, no, but he'll be embarrassed because it's Sean Hannity. Out loud. And there was apparently an audible gasp in the courtroom. Everyone was like, whoa! Holy shit!

Whereas other attorneys who were being pundits were like, usually you would write that shit down, and that would at least give you a chance of it not coming out. So anyway, it comes out as Sean Hannity, and again, the world was abuzz so now let's think about when that news broke

let's see how Fox News covered this bombshell that one of their own it might be cut up in all of this legally tied to all of the crazy shit that they've been like being like no nothing to see here for a long time so this is what happens when this is I think the actual moment where they're breaking

it on Fox News. In today's proceedings that are underway right now, Stephen Ryan, one of Cohen's attorneys was asked by the judge to specifically name the other name because they said it would not fall under attorney-client privilege to withhold that name. And he stood up and named him as Sean Hannity so moving on to so moving on yeah so moving on yeah and forth filings over this issue since last night both I mean yeah just steamroll right over that was Nick I like how she goes it doesn't even go and it was Sean Hannity was was named as Sean Hannity

moving on not saying that's our Sean Hannity just a Sean Hannity moving on. Not saying that's our Sean Hannity, just a Sean Hannity. Was named as Sean Hannity. Like that's how a cartoon would write that. Yes, exactly. Like immediately after saying moving on. Moving on. Our aunt's giving you cancer. Exactly. We fear yes.

So, yes. Now, gosh, it just gives you so many ideas. Like, what does this just gives you so many ideas. Like, what does this mean? Does Sean kill someone? Yeah. Was he trying to figure out what he can legally lie about when he spreads lies about the DNC? Yes, exactly. The DNC and WikiLeaks and people getting murdered over leaked emails and bullshit conspiracies?

Or did he have a love child with Cardi B? We don't know. I mean, getting involved with Michael Cohen could mean so many things. Yeah. Love child with Cardi B. We don't know. I mean, getting involved with Michael Cohen can mean so many things. But again, Sean Hannity was very quick to distance himself because he knows how his reputation stinks. So I think on Anderson Cooper, young Coop comes through, flames old Sean. I mean, just listen.

So we hear Hannity describing their relationship on his radio show, and then we hear Anderson Cooper's summary of that explanation. I've known Michael a long, long time. This is Hannity. And let me be very clear to the media. Michael never represented me in any matter. I never retained him in the traditional sense of retaining a lawyer. I never received an invoice from Michael.

I never paid legal fees to Michael. But I have occasionally had brief discussions with him about legal questions about which I wanted his input and perspective. Just at the bar. And I assumed that those conversations

were attorney-client confidential. So he seems to be saying, I was not really a client of attorney Michael Cohen's, but our conversations are confidential because he is an attorney and I am his client. That's right. That's right. Exactly. That's so good. Exactly.

You can't have it all ways, Sean. You can't have it all ways. It's crazy when that skewed logic well starts to run dry for you. Yeah, exactly. I mean, the Occam's razor thing is like, which Playboy model did he impregnate? always crazy when that that skewed logic well starts to run dry for you exactly i mean the occam's razor thing is like which playboy model did he impregnate i mean that's like the occam's like what he's trying to write whatever seems to be cone specialty yes exactly yeah it's just so bizarre because i mean if it really was about just brief advice you'd imagine sean hannity actually has access to much better legal opinions yeah someone who currently has the actual title of worst fucking lawyer in America.

That's right. So it's weird. And another thing is clearly like there has to be something there, right? If the whole point was them trying to be like, he's an attorney and you probably have things that affect my client or having to do with my client. Yes. Not just, yo, I used to just, you know, I don't know. We'd just shoot the shit, smoke some cigars. Yeah, exactly.

And he would be like, hey, man, can I lie about this person getting murdered because of the WikiLeaks and shit like that? Or like, hey, Julian Assange told me to say this. Can you tell this to Trump? Yeah. Is he being a middleman? Yeah, exactly. Like, you know, there's so many vagaries.

Yeah, right. That we do not know. But what's great. We don't know yet. Michael Cohen's lawyer standing up, and just you describing the moment, Jack, and there were gasps in the courtroom

and it was this dramatic reveal of the third name. It's just like, one of the other horrible consequences of this Trump horseshit is it's like, everyone does feel compelled

to sort of get their 15 minutes, or more accurately, 15 seconds, in the public spotlight. Even this lawyer, Michael Cohn's lawyer was like, I could write it down

and be discreet about it, but you know what? Let me take and like i'll be the story on that exactly and there are some people who have speculated that this could be just a big dog and pony show yeah to be like oh get hannity's name out there but and we'll forget that the president is the actual focus of the investigation but either way like based on how he was making excuses i doubt that another person i forget who it it was on NBC, was saying that technically if Michael Cohen did write down a memoranda or something based on a conversation he had, that he could be a client technically. And Sean Hannity might not be aware of that. But either way, this thing just smells like a whole pile of horseshit.

Sean Hannity is, I mean like I loathe him obviously. He's so loathsome. But in like in another light, like in my more like compassionate – if I really like exercise all my compassion, he is like truly like Arthur Miller tragic. There's something so deeply tragic about Sean Hannity. Like he has sacrificed his whole – all of his credit, his personal credibility, his moral compass in the last year and a half or two years for Donald Trump. And the only thing he has to show for it is also going to prison probably. It's sad. It's

deeply, deeply tragic. I shed no tears. When this film comes out, it's going to be like him barking at his desk, someone playing Sean Handy and it's going to be a hard cut to him in prison with his celly just holding him from behind. Exactly. Go to sleep, Sean. It's so sad. I don't know.

There's going to be such a good mini-series on FX with his celly just holding him from behind. Exactly. Go to sleep, Sean. So sad. I don't know. I don't know. There's going to be such a good mini-series on FX in 25 years. Oh, yes, exactly. Like the People vs. O.J. Simpson of this. We should just start writing this now. Right. Yeah, exactly. So I think he made reference to attorney-client privilege. Or I don't know.

He said it a weird way. What do you call it? Attorney-client? Confidentiality. Confidentiality. Confidentiality. So we had mentioned last week that Michael Cohen has sort of a Saul Goodman vibe. So Hannity actually told listeners Monday afternoon, I might have handed him, Cohen, 10 bucks. I definitely want your attorney-client privilege on this. Something

like that. So that is actually directly from Breaking Bad. This is a misconception started by Breaking Bad where Saul Goodman is like, put a dollar in my pocket. That way I'm your attorney or my client. That is a scene from Breaking Bad and they

literally are just like, okay, so basically i'm walter white urasol goodman let's play act this thing yeah except we're talking about real crimes we did yeah it's funny to to to aspire to the crime it's just like we should do it like they do on breaking yeah so the way to actually establish attorney client privilege is to is to publicly or say to the police, he is my attorney. I am his client. Therefore, ergo, it's not putting a dollar in somebody's pocket. It's just establishing that. That is our relationship. Right. And Hannity has kind of torpedoed his ability to do that by now coming out and being

like, we're not really attorney-clients. He he was never and just basically laying out all the way somebody can be somebody's attorney and client and saying that wasn't the nature of their relationship. But let's listen to how an actual legal expert would tell Sean. Well, right. So yesterday on Hannity, he got his favorite legal experts on, one of them being Alan Dershowitz, who up to this point has okayed every single bizarre idea and theory that Sean Hannity has had about the law, was willing to play devil's advocate for everything. Even Alan Dershowitz, like we said, had a moment where he was like, bro, you know, last week when the FBI raided Michael Cohen's office, you were out here being like, hey, man, he's

an innocent man. This is total bullshit, blah, blah, blah. And you didn't say that you were- Maybe should have mentioned it. Maybe should have mentioned it. Maybe should have mentioned it, yeah. So this is Alan Dershowitz even being like, bruh, I can only be crazy to a point. Right.

Well, first of all, Sean, I do want to say that I really think that you should have disclosed your relationship with Cohen when you talked about him on this show. You could have said just that you had asked him for advice or whatever, but I think it would have been much, much better had you disclosed that relationship. You were in a difficult situation, obviously. If you understand the nature of it, Professor, I'm going to deal with this later in the show.

I understand. It was minimal. I put out a statement about it. You should have said that, and that would have been fair to say that it was minimal. That's fine. You were in a tough position because, A, you had to talk about Cohen, and, B, you didn't want the fact because a you had to talk about colin and b you didn't want the fact that you had spoken to him to be revealed and you had the right by the way

not to have your identity i have the right to privacy right but you know it's a complex situation when you speak it was such a minor professor it was such a minor relationship in terms of it had to do with real estate and nothing political i understand understand that. Right. At the same time, if it was so minor, why didn't you want that? Why didn't you want that out there? You don't even get it, Dad. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It was so small.

It's not like, oh, sure, on paper, I should have done that. But you don't know, Dad. It's just a real estate thing. I was like, what's the best real estate property to bury a body? It's just a little real estate, not a big deal. I love how Dershowitz has still even just been like,

I know, I know. Yeah, you should have said it. You still should have said it. Exactly, you should have. I know, I know, I know. I like how Dershowitz is still even just being like, I know, I know. Yeah, you should have said it. You still should have said it. Exactly, you should have. I know, I know, I know. I like that Dershowitz not backing down on that point. At Port Michael Cone, you just imagine Michael Cone watching this and be like, Sean, I thought we had something. We're just friends?

You imagine him just like a scorned lover. I thought we were- What was all that? I thought we were attorney client. Dude, we bought those matching Hawaiian shirts? Yeah, exactly. I mean, again, this is another thing where I think we talk about on the show, this is like a cultural myth, I think,

that people have been sort of taking in from film and TV about even like these mob films, that the lawyer somehow holds all the secrets, is impenetrable, and is above the law in some way. He's like Melvoin in The Sopranos. That's right. Robert Duvall in The Consigliere. Yeah, exactly.

Michael Cohen specifically refers to himself as Consigliere. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. What's a myth that you know to be true? Mob warriors work. Yeah, exactly. But this is what happens when you elect an actual... I mean, that's the thing about this.

He is a crime boss. Comey telling Stephanopoulos, he's like, kind of treat it like the dinners with Trump were, like, very mafioso-y. And, like, you pledge your loyalty to the ring, you kiss the ring. And, like, that one weird moment where Trump on TV made a gesture of walking over to Comey and hugging him. Like, all these weird mafia tactics of intimidation. He's like, you're a made guy now. Exactly.

I know it was you, James. And, like, you know that Trump is so dumb and television-addled. Like, his ideas of status and power probably literally are from The Godfather. Yeah, right. I mean, those are his points of status reference. So we're just seeing this sad, pathetic TV addled brain. And again, Roy Cohn, one of his first lawyers, is the notorious mob lawyer and McCarthy lawyer. So like –

It goes back to that great tweet that this is not a government-run media. This is a media-run government. Precisely right. Precisely right. All bullshit media myths. And even the attack on Syria happens when some devastating footage shows up on Fox News. Exactly. Yeah.

Ooh, spooky. So there's actually this New Yorker article that just kind of puts all of this in perspective from Adam Davidson, the less important Adam, where he talks about, he puts this in the context, the article, by the way, is salaciously called something like the end of the, yeah, the end stages of the Trump presidency, question mark, which- Sounds like a little bit like liberal fantasy. Exactly. Hey, we got gotta get those clicks

so his point and it's sort of an impressionist piece of journalism in the sense that he's writing it from his perspective as a journalist

who has lived through two other things that this experience reminds him of he was on the ground in Baghdad when Bush was standing in front of

that giant mission accomplished banner which I was noticing earlier today in the office. It's like the ugliest banner. It's designed in MS Paint. It's so weird. It's like such a shitty pixelated flag in the background.

But the size of it, it has to be the size of the Hollywood sign. So they just did it on a Word doc, and then were like, here, print this up. Just stretch it the fuck out however big you need to be. Yeah. Anyways,

Adam Davidson was- This thing isn't rasterized. Right. Exactly. It wasn't rasterized. Can you give me a fucking vector image of it?

Fuck, bro. Davidson was on the ground in Baghdad when that was happening and he was talking to people so he knew ahead of the rest of the country and the public

that that was bullshit. This thing was way worse than anybody thought it was. He was also reporting on the financial crisis when that was slowly unfolding. Yes. And he even puts it, he was trying to get it through his thick skull that this was actually going in a really bad direction. Catastrophic. Right. And, you know, he said that he finally realized it and like what those loans actually were,

what those financial products were, and that they were about to explode and everybody and that the global economy was going to be fucked for a little while. Right. And he said that at that time you turned on the TV on MSNBC or CNBC and people were like, okay, well, the worst of it's behind us, guys. Right, exactly. And this is like, we're headed in the right direction. So he's saying that's a thing where the preponderance of evidence he had access to told him things are way worse than people realize. And this is just the early stages, and we're about to find out how bad things are.

It's just going to slowly come out. And he's saying that now that Cohen's offices have been raided, he knows that that is the future of the Trump presidency. Like before when it was just Mueller looking into whether there was Russian collusion, he was like it could have gone either way because he's like collusion doesn't really make sense for Trump because it involves a lot of foresight and like patience. Yes. And like diabolical planning that he is not capable of mentally fit to execute. So he was like, you know, it could really go either way. But the one thing he does know based on a lot of reporting and everybody he works with at the New York are doing loads of reporting on the Trump organization is that they are a criminal organization that has been doing crime in New York for years. For years.

He talks about this Soho Trump project where Ivanka and Don Jr. are essentially on email saying, man, I hope nobody finds out about these crimes that we're doing. Like literally on email. Yes. He basically thinks Ivanka has a very high chance of getting arrested. Don Jr. has a high chance of getting arrested. Like there is just loads and loads of white collar crime happening.

That both does and doesn't have to do with Russian collusion. It's like that Russian collusion has been the narrative right now. Like, oh, this is the thing that's going to sink Trump. And I think this is what really resonated with me about the article was just his thing of like the way that narratives change. And like I was in the like the Iraq narrative was like we did it. Mission accomplished. It's over. Meanwhile, I'm there and like it's far from over.

Like that's a weird narrative to be under to be like taken as. They're like, are you actually here? Yeah, exactly. Right. And like so I get what he's saying about this Trump thing. It's like, OK, this Michael Cohen being ra being graded everything the truth will hopefully come out we will learn about the 40 years of gangsterization of the way he runs his real estate business just like crimes and sex crimes and illegitimate children everywhere and that will become the dominant narrative and

his presidency will fit into this larger narrative of 40 years of crooked life that he's living the thing that bums me out is that, and sorry if this sounds arrogant, but didn't we all know that before? I mean, like, right. All the reports that he's referencing, they're like,

have been out there. There are 900 documentaries. Yeah. I am unaware of anybody who has taken a serious look at Trump's business, who doesn't believe that there is a high likelihood of rampant criminality. Exactly. And then he goes on to list like five really clear-cut things uh in azerbaijan he did business with a likely money launderer for iran's revolutionary

guard yeah that like there's five other things and he's like those are just the really obvious yeah like they are really in a lot of trouble yeah yeah donald and ivanka were investigated for financial crimes associated with Trump Hotel in Soho. And then there's an older article where, yeah, there's just all these emails where they're basically there was no doubt that the Trump children approved, knew of, agreed to and intentionally inflated the numbers of the building to make more sales. To me, it was almost the dumb fucking reality show The Apprentice that changed the narrative. It's like I feel like from the 80s up until The Apprentice, the dominant narrative about Trump was that he was America's favorite crook. That was his whole thing. He was like a fake-ass businessman. Yeah, exactly.

He was a fake-ass crooked businessman. And that was like we put up with him because he has hair and he's a little funny, so we put up with him. And then The Apprentice came along, and I think maybe people maybe in the, I overstate not to be condescending, but people maybe were like, oh he's a legitimate mogul. Like that man really knows, he's the king Midas, everything he touches turns to gold. That's not a set decorator creating this mystique around him for a visual

effect. Right. But I thought him as a crooked person was always the narrative, but I guess this article sort of highlights how, to me, one of my takeaways was like how easily narratives can just flip and sort of highlights how, to me, one of my takeaways was like how easily narratives can just flip and sort of, yes, all this preponderance of evidence can just be sort of shuffled aside. And now it's he's the president with collusion. TV is insanely powerful. I mean, look, it has all these people, even lawyers, thinking attorney-client privilege exists when it fucking doesn't.

Breaking Bad. Basically, his summary is that the narrative that will become widely understood is that Donald Trump did not sit atop a global empire. He had a small, sad, global operation, mostly run by his two oldest children and Michael Cohen. Very King Lear. It was not a company that built value over decades.

It burned through whatever goodwill and brand value it established as quickly as possible. It basically, after he bankrupted his fifth casino, people were like, we're not giving you money anymore, man. That's right. And so he had to get all his money from foreign money launderers. Russia. And he's been doing business with foreign money launderers. And he put it in this Crooked Media interview I heard.

He was like, he's not even going with the first moguls that people would do business with, that corrupt people would do business with. It's like the third tier moguls in the countries that you would go to fifth. Like, Azerbaijan is not the first place you would go to. And even there, you're dealing with the tertiary scumbags? Right, exactly. Yeah. Woo! Yeah.

I guess that is the point, though. It's all about context. The collusion thing, I guess this point, which I hope and pray and believe is true, is that the Russian collusion thing will, in a year, now that we know everything and Cohen's been raided, we see all the documents, the Russian collusion, fixing, swinging the election, Putin hacking Facebook, will fit into just a much larger context of Trump being a bankrupt asshole, a scumbag real estate guy who had to go to Russia and the Ukraine and all these other shady B and C level moguls for money and that the collusion thing will fit into that narrative. Right. Yeah. And even if it's not active collusion on his part, like just the idea that he is compromised,

that they have something on him. Yeah, I think above and beyond anything that Robert Mueller could dig up, that's what's the most frightening thing because on Sunday you had Nikki Haley saying, oh, we're going to sanction Russia. Just get ready. Steve Mnuchin will be unleashing the sanctions. And then Kutu yesterday threw her ass under the bus.

We'll be thinking about it. How about that, man? Yeah. And that happened last week. We did put harsher sanctions on Russia after the assassination a couple weeks ago. Right. In London. In the UK.

Yeah. Attempt. Attempt. Right. Then the UK. Attempt. Attempt. France. And he was furious. Yeah. He was like, what the fuck are you guys doing? Like, those are the homies. So this guy, I mean, he's not even consistent with where he's at.

I mean, we all know this. Anyway. Yeah. It's only Tuesday. Let's see what the fuck. I'm telling you, by Friday, what the fuck are we going to be talking about? Seriously. I don't know.

And I probably believe Sean Hannity. He might have a tape with Cardi B or something. I don't know. Exactly. Yes. You're really shipping Cardi B and Sean Hannity. Sean Hannity. Very interesting.

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Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And during the break, we just had a great moment where super producer Anna Hosnia

was like, I just don't. Why did they run for president? They did all these crimes. Because again, I don't think they ever wanted to be in the White House. Trump was doing a setup movie. If you remember, he was like, well, I'm going to do Trump TV. Definitely.

And he was like, oh, shit, I got a whole other business I'm about to set up. I'm going to have all these fucking fans magging out, buying my shit. Cut to people in the Kremlin being like, ain't no fucking way Hillary Clinton's going to be president. Do whatever the fuck you have to to make sure this other dude is in there who we have a pee-pee tape or whatever the fuck on. And now we're in the- Wait for it, Donnie. Who knows? And even if they didn't swing the election, I still just don't think that Trump has control over his own faculties.

He is completely driven by his ego. Yes. Just 100%. He has debilitating narcissism. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. He can't plan ahead. Even if you don't want to believe that Russia may have had

zero net effect on the election, I think what we can all agree on is Trump probably never wanted to actually be the president of the United States. Ever. There is reporting from inside his situation room on election night

as they realize that he is becoming the president where his face goes ashen. And I think Melania is openly weeping. His family is taking it as a fucking tragedy. It is. And then Bannon says specifically that like you slowly see him convince himself that he can do the job over the course of the night. It's fine. I'll pardon myself. Yeah.

Oh, geez. Pardon the the night. It's fine. I'll pardon myself. Yeah. Oh, jeez. Pardon the interruptions, my favorite show. I fast forward through all the interruptions. Anyway. All right. We wanted to bang through a handful of quick updates. Kanye is back tweeting. Yeah.

Amazing. Saying profound shit. That's good. Profound? Yeah, profound question mark? Profound-ish. Does this inevitably mean he has an album coming out? Is that what we're meant to understand?

Well, he does have an album come out that we suspect he is recording in Jackson Hole, Wyoming. Oh, that's cool. It's going to be a country album. So far, from two hours ago, he tweeted, As a creative, your ideas are your strongest form of currency. You have to protect your ability to create at all costs. Try to avoid any contractual situation where you are held back from your ideas. Distraction is the enemy of vision.

Sometimes you have to get rid of everything. Everything you do in life stems from either fear or love. Fear often causes people to be manipulative. Be transparent as possible. Stop setting plays. Stop playing chess with life. Make decisions based on love, not fear. Been reworking the production shape on these rat boots for six months.

I'm super happy with them. I'm excited about the ability to give a boot a true Yeezy shape. Feels more future. So he kind of had a little run. He's super happy with them. I'm excited about the ability to give a boot a true Yeezy shape. Feels more future. He kind of had a little run. Also, that hiking boot looks like a janky-ass boot from Big Five you'd buy for hiking. I definitely am not liking his shoes as much as I used to. The new shoes that he's releasing

are kind of weird. I'm not with the whole dad shoe thing. I suspect. But they look like the sneakers that your gym teacher wore in the early 90s. Yeah. Exactly. I thought they were like Soccanese or like Avia shoes.

Yeah, yeah. What the fuck? Yeah. If all this means he has an album coming up, then more power to him. Yes, exactly. I want to hear new Kanye music. But you can tell, when I look at this,

I feel like he's explaining why he never won a Pulitzer in his first things, right? Oh, that's what you think. Yes, when he's like, sometimes, like, distraction is the enemy of vision. Try to avoid any, like, especially when he says where you're held back from your ideas.

Interesting. Because Kendrick is being, like, praised for his originality and ingenuity and his honesty. I don't know. It's just like, you haven't tweeted in a long time.

If it has been, it's been about, like, boot pictures, so. Yeah. There is 0% chance that he doesn't think that he should have gotten a Pulitzer and not a Kend Pulitzer. Correct.

Oh, absolutely. Correct, correct. Everybody in that entourage, they're having to be like, yes, Kanye. Yeah, they are tripping, man. Should have been you, yeah. They should have been you, man. Drake also released the name of his new album that's coming in June called Scorpion. Scorpion.

Okay. That was very good. I could not do it. He's a real-life Foley artist here in the studio. Another quick update. Cardi B apparently had a wild performance at Coachella to the point. We didn't talk about that, but yeah. That she's actually losing money.

I mean, look, Cardi is the queen right now. She's got one of the craziest albums out right now. I think she broke crazy streaming records with Invasion of Privacy. But yeah, we found out there's some reporting, people kind of crunching the numbers. It turns out that her set could cost as much as $460,000, her Coachella set, which is very elaborate. The show is crazy. But that's for one weekend. She still has another weekend up.

They say in the lower end, it could cost maybe $300,000 for the stage to be erected. Oh, my goodness. And her fee for playing Coachella is only $70,000. Got it. So she's a little bit in the red there. Yeah, a little bit in the red for Coachella. Hold on. Let me finish this math thing.

Yep, you're right. That does not equal out. That's not good. It's nearly, yeah, four times less. You could just view it as a marketing expense. 100%. Yeah, exactly. I mean, it's not like she's going to go, I mean, she's fucking on top of the world.

You know, she's like, eh, we're going to fucking spend $300,000. Do you? Exactly. Because the show was amazing. Although, I saw one hilarious tweet about, like, the reaction of Cardi's obstetrician, OBGYN, right now. And it was like a confused gif of like, wow, you're twerking fully pregnant. But hey, don't let that stop you.

This is your second trimester, huh? Everybody is loving it. Yeah, exactly. Ba-da-ba-ba-ba. a confused gif of like, wow, you're twerking fully pregnant. But hey, don't let that stop you because everybody is loving it. Yeah, exactly. I also like to think that her second weekend, they scale way back. It's just like, we're just going to do

sort of an unplugged acoustic thing. You know, set. Yeah, yeah. She read that article too. She's like, damn, that's what it costs? Yeah, because the festival,

Coachella is not covering a dime of it. Yeah, exactly. They're like, we'll let you perform here. If you want to dress that shit up, that is on you. But I think also too, thing to consider, a lot. They're like, we'll let you perform here if you want to dress that shit up. That is on you.

But I think also too, thing to consider, a lot of people are like, why is she only getting $70,000 considering where she's at? You have to imagine she was probably booked at the end of last summer

or fall, early fall last year. That's right. So her stock was not in the same place. Exactly. You know, true. Yeah, she would be

probably headlining or one of the night's headliners. Either way, she's winning. She's winning. And then finally, we wanted to do a quick appropriation check-in because there is this beef being playing itself out online between something called a whoa Vicky and a bad baby. We call that a bach baby, based on the spelling B-H-A-D-B-H-A-B-I-E.

But that is Danielle. She came to our attention from her appearance on Dr. Phil. Yes, the cash me outside girl. How about that? Her and a young woman named Woe Vicky. Yeah, Woe Vicky is also crazy problematic. She says she's black. The jury is out.

No, the jury is in. Well, they've just... Wait, hold on. I'm just getting where they've come back. No, you are white. She's not black. And this is appropriation and you are a crazy racist caricature.

Also, there's some nine-year-old named Lil Tay who is talking crazy shit. Lil Tay? These two were talking shit to each other, Whoa Vicky and Bad Baby. Yes. And, like, they had, like, some weird beef.

Apparently, they caught her outside at the Americana in Glendale, I guess, and they started scrapping. But then there's also, like, a nine-year-old girl in the entourage called Lil Tay, as you were saying. Lil Tay. Who, I mean, her Instagram is insane. She's like, you already know what it is you all girl little Tay I'm richer than all you bitches I'm out here with more cash than you've

always got a money phone she's all I got a money phone she's nine years old so if she's working then we need to call CPS because somebody's putting this child to work exactly uh but I don't even know what to say about this it's's crazy to even see young white kids appropriating rapper beef culture and this whole shit. They were acting like they were tough. It's mind-blowing to watch this video. Yes. I don't know. I'm disgusted.

Where'd IG rap be? And Cashmant said, and forgive me, I'm a little behind the April on this story, but Cashmant said she has a rap deal. She can rap. She's got a deal with Atlantic. Okay. Yes. Wildly problematic, but she sounds like a rapper. But can rap. She's got a deal with Atlantic. Yeah. Yes. Wildly problematic, but like she sounds like a rapper.

But hey, some of her production is solid. But well, Vicky isn't aspiring that. She's like an up and coming that. Presumably. Presumably. Okay. Okay, fine. And Lil Tay is.

Lil Tay just came out of the woodwork. Yeah. Who is this young girl who like is calling, well, Vicky, her sister. It's very confusing. Lil Tay is the next Tupac. Is the next Tupac. Lil Tay, absolutely. But what's funny is when you watch them start fighting,

you can tell Lil Tay is just a nine-year-old child who is probably not from the streets or any kind of tough situation because she falls away out of frame real quick when the hands start flying. She's like, I'm nine. I'm still nine. That's the thing that I was saying. You're not in the streets. Super producer Sophie Lichterman

was like, I was like like isn't she nine? she was like yeah where are her parents right? I was like no she's gonna get her ass kicked she's so small her little nine year old body gosh Adam it has been a pleasure having you this is always a treat I really appreciate you guys having me back

thank you so much we love having you where can people find you? twitter at adamlustic instagram at adamlustic Appreciate you guys having me back on. Please come back. Thank you so much. We love having you. Where can people find you? Oh, okay. So Twitter at Adam Lustick. Instagram at Adam Lustick. My buddy Billy and I have a podcast every Friday called No Joke. That's at No Joke Pod over on the HeadGum Networks.

And that's where I'll be for a little while. Yeah. Miles. Yeah. Hey, man. Hi. Hey, dude. Where can people find you? Oh, you can find me on Twitter and Instagram

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where we post our episodes and our footnotes We link off to the information contained in today's episode. That's going to do it for today, Myles. What are we going to write out? Okay, so, you know, we're still in that vibe. It's 420 week. And now, this is actually a track from Washed Out.

Now, you might know Washed Out from doing the soundtrack to Portlandia. That's like what his hit is, right? Okay, cool. I feel it all around. Now, he, before that, when he was just making beats like in the woods of Georgia, he had a mixtape called High Times, which is why I'm putting

it in the category of high music. And you guys, this was a really dope beat tape he made. It's kind of not like his other stuff, but this is a track called Luck off Washed Out's little mixtape called High Times. Enjoy it. It's just a little two minute fiber but you know guys relax and you know again it's only tuesday who knows what we will be talking

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