The Daily Zeitgeist - Oh No Cuomo, TikTok Induced 8.5.21

Episode Date: August 5, 2021

In episode 965, Miles and guest co-host Caitlin Durante are joined by comedian Teresa Lee to discuss Republicans and muppets, Cuomo's laughable defense, the Olympics, South Africa’s Succulent Black Market, frozen honey, and more!FOOTNOTES: Do the Republicans love or hate the Muppets  Cuomo’s defense is laughable yet he thinks it’s effective Olympics humanitarian crisis South Africa’s Succulent Black Market is POPPIN OFF Y’all heard of the Frozen Honey trend? Listen Jared Jackson - Player's Bop (One For Jay Dee) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Okay. She is a podcast host. Okay. You might know her from the fact, though, guys. You might know her as a comedian. You might know her as a teacher of comedians or a teacher of writing. You might know her from her master's degree in film writing please welcome my one of my absolute favorite people to talk to please welcome caitlin dorante hi thank you so much

miles for having me it's me caitlin dorante aka urinal tit dance. A.K.A. anal tit inducer. Okay. Okay. So these are courtesy of Andy Townsend who sent me a list and then made that

list into a Google Doc spreadsheet where that are categorized by anagrams of my name that have like pit anal paint urine um nut um and then other ones that are i suppose a little less or you know like more pg rated you mean boring you mean not hard not impactful not thought provoking sure i mean everyone's doing the urinal tit dance check tiktok okay yeah what do you think i am a clean anagrammer i go blue with the anagrams they know that uh well caitlin let's

please welcome our guest today this is another another person, a wonderful guest, somebody who I love to see around town. Sometimes I see your sister and I think it's her and it's not her. Please welcome a comedian, a podcaster and all around just fantastic performer and person, personality and psychedelic experimenter. I would even say Teresa Lee. I'm going to try to sing this one i just wrote okay okay bad for you if you're not vaccinated and can be but me i got the pfizer shot in my arm bad for you if you didn't want to do that you've lost your mind you think it's your right spreading covid variants all over the world you want to get infected i really don't get it but i guess bad for us really lost at the end there but

you know no no no no no it's good for you bye what is that oh see i don't even oh that's right oh no you do look i'm old okay look at me i'm old at paramore and you're like it's olivia rodrigo the most famous artist on the planet at the moment oh yeah yeah yeah i love her song car that was dope it's probably a sign of like your good mental health and boundary setting that you don't know who she is uh no i do know because uh her majesty plays it and i like the one uh strawberry ice cream malibu because all the time a lot of people like oh my god i identify with this and like i was never like angsty to the point where like you'll never love somebody the way I do. And my friends are haters.

I more identify with the jealous songs. I bet you're doing all that old shit with the new one now. That's when I'm like, get him, Olivia, get him. It is wild because I love an angsty breakup song. Like my karaoke song used to be Before He Cheats. I've grown out of it. So I'm enjoying this, like, the youth and singing it here

because I love bubblegum pop. But I can't get into the words because I'm now at the point. And I don't think this is, like, necessarily a good thing. It might just be I'm, like, tired of being sad. But when I hear that, I'm like,

why would you even be thinking about an old, just think about yourself. Like, it's, like, to the point where I'm like, he sounds toxic be thinking about an old just think about yourself like it's like to the point where i'm like he sounds toxic and honestly don't waste another minute but i get it you know but also don't think about him yeah i think that's the thing is like it's it's like the era of our lives when like we would do furious note writing you know what i mean to be like i have to give you a note remember that shit in in school? Oh, yeah. I just don't send them. They just like I have diaries. And I have a whole box of letters written to.

Oh, like to all the boys I've loved before. That movie is based on you. But it's more like to all the boys that have not loved me yet. Possibly in the future or anyone. But yeah, I don't know. That's where I feel like that was like the height of drama like in high school because like we have phones and we were barely texting like around the early aughts by the time i was getting out but like if someone was like yo she did you see the note that she wrote that she gave to her like they're done like they're they're like not even

friends anymore based on the thickness of that note and the way she folded it oh my god anyway welcome to uh the chugi uh you know, reminiscing podcast starring some, you know, just one geriatric millennial and two people that he has convinced to be guests. Anyway, before we get to know you a little bit better, Teresa, let's just give people a quick idea of what we're going to be talking about today. We got all kinds of stuff from the Republicans going from defending the muppets to hating the muppets uh you know it's it's hard when you have no actual morality so we'll kind of look into what their newest beef is with the muppets andrew cuomo his defense is laughable uh in terms of all of the you know the investigation of what's come out yet he thinks it's effective and i think that's pretty indicative of kind of how investigation of what's come out. Yet he thinks it's effective. And I think that's pretty indicative of kind of how far we have to go societally.

So we'll talk a little bit about that. We'll talk about this Olympic story, about this Belarusian sprinter. And it sounds like a high drama film filled with secret police and secret recordings and the threat of bodily harm and all kinds of interesting, you know, secret police and, you know, secret recordings and the threat of bodily harm and all kinds of interesting, not interesting, tragic stuff. And then I think we'll even maybe check in with the kids. You know how I'm you know how I'm in touch with the kids because I knew that was an Olivia Rodrigo track. You better believe I'm on TikTok or at least reading

NBC News where they're telling me about the frozen honey trend and it's causing people some bodily issues. So we'll get into that because the kids are not all right. But first, Teresa, let us know what's something from your search history that is just revealing about who you are, what you're up to. I just Googled this this morning. So this is very revealing, I guess. I Googled how do you match white paint to a wall? Because I have a lot of holes in my wall from trying to become a father during quarantine.

I put up a lot of, not from punching the wall, like a benevolent father who has been home improving. But I've installed new lines and things and also was bad at some of the installations. So there's a lot of holes. I decided it's time to fill them in. Right. It's like a white wall, but it's not a white wall. You know what I mean?

So really the instructions that I got were like to cut off a piece of the wall, which seems kind of silly. So they have also apps apparently that you can match the color i still don't really know i'm gonna try the app one and see how that works it's not like a thing like if in my mind like in the olden days you just bring like some scrapings and you're like hey can you match this and like no what are you talking about this is this looks like dust that's literally what it was like you could an inch square, but it has to be an inch.

I'm like, well, where am I going to cut an inch off my wall? Like, I don't know how that's going to happen. That's just another hole you have to fill in and paint over then. I know. And there's so many holes in my heart already. It's like, it's like really backed up, you know. So is this like that scene in American Psycho where they're like, and his business card was bone colored. And then this one was so

it's like there's all these different versions of white I mean I assume it's like because my sister when she used to live with me did um try to fill up some holes with spackling and there now are just like really weird looking patches of different whites all over the wall so I don't want to do that but uh I don't know how So I don't want to do that. But I don't know what the right answer is. So I guess I'm sure one of the listeners, anyone want to come to my house and paint my walls? That's fine.

Home Improvement, Zygang, please come through for Teresa. What is she supposed to do? Or I guess the other version is like, you might have to pick a whole new fucking color. Or I can make the whole wall a hole and then it will all match love does like the maintenance like or like a uh like a superintendent building manager they will be like oh yeah we always use this color white that's usually what they do because that's probably true i just don't want to alert them to the fact that i'm putting holes in the wall this is what you do you, I love the wall color in here.

And I had a guest come by and they were absolutely in love with it. Can you tell me what the color is so I can let them know what it is? They're huge fans. I really want to dye my hair to match the walls in my house. Can you tell me the exact Pantone so I can take it to my stylist? Exactly. Or maybe you create a burner email account and you're like, hello, I'm an interested uh prospective tenant and i would love to know what exactly the hue of the this is this will very much impact my decision of whether or not to move into the this is gonna be

like a new serial podcast it's just like the hunt for the the right color wow it's just like or just our generation and the younger generation's inability to ask direct questions a lot of the times. Like, so what do I do? Reds be like, hi, can you tell me the paint color? Or yeah, if there's like, you know, any maintenance people, they usually know. Or just if there's a supply room, break in and then take note of the paint. Paint heist. All right.

All right, then we'll be fine. Say no more. I'll write it. Yeah, we got to be fine. Say no more. I'll write it. Heist. Yeah. We got to do it. Okay. Let's move on to something that you think is overrated. Teresa, what would that be?

Okay. This is new for me. So this is old Zeitgang who have heard me talk about things. This is a new Teresa. I think having a high credit score is overrated. I don't mean like in the way that like I know credit cards suck. And that is true. But I mean like in the way that like I know credit cards suck and that is true but I mean like I had a high credit score and I was thinking that this was like a

pillar of my personality and if I just do this my life will be okay and then I realized that um that it's all a scam but not only that but I just got a credit because I just directed a short film but I haven't raised the money for it yet but to do this I took a credit card out with zero percent APR for 15 months and I spent the money before I still don't have the money but I spent it and I realized like I directed a short and then I'm like whatever happens like maybe I'll end up on the street but more than likely I'll figure it out I still still don't know what's going to happen, but the reality is I did the directing part already. So I realized like, okay, like worst case scenario, I blow up my credit score and I finish a short. Best case scenario, I crowdfund or figure it out and pay it off. But in no way would I have done this if I was waiting to make

the money. So I just realized like, it's all a scam. Like just the more the bank owns you, the more they want to keep you alive. And now I feel like they own me and they want me alive. So they're not going to kill me, you know? Yeah, they'll let the other industries do that for them on their behalf. They're like, oh, well, it's a shame that you couldn't afford to live.

But yeah, I definitely at one point, I remember I used to, I dated somebody who like credit score shamed me. And like, i kind of took it personally at the time because it's a very privileged thing to do i remember i was trying to get a tv and they're like hey like you want to finance it i'm like what's that and they're like well maybe you can just do payments i'm like okay and they're like oh you don't have any credits sir i'm like oh because i don't have any i was like that means you have no debt i mean the only reason

i started with a high credit score my extremely extremely high student loans. And this whole time I was like, I'm so responsible. But like, no, it's because you were a dumb idiot at 17 years old and you signed your life away. Yeah. Now I'm like, oh, I'm about to pay my Mazda off. You know, that credit score about to be jumping. And then I will call that X. I'll be like, you should look at it now. It's 620.

It's not good still. Anyway, that's how shit is sometimes. Teresa, what is something you think is underrated? What is something I think is underrated?

Animals that talk. And I don't mean like talk like huskies, okay? I mean like animals, I don't know if you guys are spending much time on animal TikTok. This is not like a

demi lovato talking to alien situation there are plenty of animals out there who like you spend time with your pets and they all have those little things where they like kind of understand that one thing where you're like that's oddly human of them but i think it's very common because um just living things living in close capacity with each other are going to pick up communication skills and we have english but obviously, like, you know, you have shorthand with your best friends or whatever. So I actually think that we're getting to this point where animals that we see as very dumb or cute that they speak human

are actually, like, learning how to speak human. And I'm seeing a general trend of, like, dogs really understanding a lot more overall not just like your pet dog like understanding how the world of humans work and pretty soon they will be asking us not to cut their balls off and we will have to make that choice because if your dog could ask you would you trust it to wear a condom is you know like would you this is not where i saw this i just mean i just mean they're learning they're learning how to communicate because they have to by necessity they live with us what are some examples that you're seeing where you're like oh shit my dog for sure i'll say understands way too much english to the point where at first we

thought it was like kind of silly and cute but then we realized like he really does understand like i would i was talking about like going on a hike in the morning once, like a sunrise hike. And he woke up before, he never wakes up that early, but he woke up like four. And I was like, why is he up so early? And he was like ready to go. And then I was with my boyfriend. I was like, I think it's, I think he heard us.

I was like, well, he understood that we said we were going. And another time he wouldn't eat his food when he met my boyfriend's parents. And they sat there watching him. And I was like, oh God, he's embarrassing me. Cause they were like, why isn't he eating? And then my boyfriend's dad was like, maybe he wants tacos. And I've never taught him the word taco, but he looked over at my boyfriend's dad and walked over and sat on his lap and was like, literally like, yeah, I do want tacos. These are bad examples, but there are more on TikTok. There's one of like another dog literally walking like a corgi, making fun of a corgi, like, squatting. And it's like a big terrier, and it squats, and then the corgi turns around, and it stands up, and then it does it again.

It's, like, taunting it. Oh. These are, these animals are just doing, like, human things because they learn from us you know yeah yeah so not only are our phones listening to us now our dogs are listening to us great yeah exactly and now they now they have takes on things like the accusations against joe biden and if they're worth sussing out as well or maybe not i'm surprised i was i saw cats having that discussion the other day on the street but yeah it's the things that i see on tiktok are never animals because uh it thinks i'm i'm on some other shit i see the weirdest shit it's like always weird skits stuff about like la culture and then like like weird food you gotta let go and ride the wave because i've been through

so many subcultures of tiktok and sometimes i'll want to hang on to one sometimes i'll want to get out but what i've learned is you just you just ride it like just act natural like like what you like don't like what you like and it'll the algorithm will know and the algorithm will know because that's really what tiktok is is a massive experience to train this like machine learning thing no i mean that's why sometimes but see that's how i reclaim my power and i throw curveballs no but if you treat yourself like well i didn't realize i needed to be talking to trees and animals and here we are and i think that it's made me a better communicator with the trees less humans humans now don't understand me at all so if i've moved on yeah i'm past that for sure all right well let's move past that segment and

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And don't worry, we promise to avoid any black holes. Most of the time. And we're back. Republicans, Muppets, countrymen, lend me your ears uh what is happening i don't know in this week's edition of now they love them now they don't we have fox news and friends the fox and friends crew they're talking about how the muppets have become too woke um and you know since they can't talk about things like covid or like climate change or like even politics anymore because they're like we can't like let anyone know that anything positive

might be happening or you know acknowledge the omni-crisis omni-crisis that we're facing uh let's just let's lean into the culture wars so they've spent a lot of time you know the agenda's on bullshit like smearing critical race theory or like just general fear mongering xenophobia. But in this case, they want parents of young kids to be alarmed with the kind of messages that are coming out of the newest Muppet Baby series. When I heard it, I was like, wait, Muppet Baby is the old one. But there's a new one. I didn't realize because, again, I'm old. because, again, I'm old.

And let's just listen to the discourse around what they believe is the problem with the Muppets because they are just too darn woke. All right, in other news, we haven't done anything about cartoons yet or about animated series. We normally don't cover that. We don't. Muppets Babies has a character by the name of Gonzo.

Gonzo wanted to attend a royal ball. And I believe we've got a clip where Gonzo wanted to wear a dress and two characters said to him that boys are not supposed to wear, boys are supposed to wear nightclothes. K-N-I-G-H-T, clothes. However, a fairy rat father, according to the foxnews.com story, granted Gonzo's wish to become a princess. And that's what happens. Watch this.

So they go on and they play this clip. And again, I like how they go, normally we don't cover things like animated. Y'all were screaming about Mr. Potato Head. You fucking dimwits. The fuck are you talking? I mean, normally this is so highbrow, elevated discussion of all things, you know, culture and news. But yes, they play a very long clip. But let me just get to the summation.

Essentially, I think we all know where this is going, but just we'll let them say this in their words here. So then at the end of the ball, the glass slipper is left and they're trying to find out who it belongs to. And Miss Piggy says, we met the most amazing princess last night at the ball. And then Gonzo says, there's something I need to tell you. The princess who came to the ball tonight was me. And then some of the other Muppets said it wasn't very nice of us to tell you what to wear to the ball. Gonzarela makes his debut. Is this what kids were clamoring for from the Muppets cross-dressing?

Was that a big ask? Something they were missing in their lives? What this is, is, I mean, you can overdo it, but we've also underdone it for too long. Okay, whatever. I'm off this. They definitely want to make a point of saying, like, this is political, but at the same time, the whole build-up to this they definitely want to make a point of saying like what like this is political but at the same time like the whole build-up to this you have to say fairy rat father

yeah like there's so many things that are already like these are muppets there's not even a boy like where are the genitals this isn't a news story these are puppets with hands in their like like to build they're gonna yeah they're gonna they're gonna be debating like the afterlife with the movie soul like pretty soon too. They're like, I mean, who knows what's going on in this documentary film? They're like, what? But yeah, the way they like beat for beat, especially when Ainsley Earhart's like, and then they lose the slipper and then they're looking for it and then they come up and they

say, we're sorry. Like, why are we going beat for beat? Like, because you have to stretch this weird thing out like okay what's the point here it's like if yeah to me i feel like they are at the point where if they actually say what they think they already know it sounds totally wrong like if they were to say what they really think which is like we don't like that gonzos like presented as kind of male, even though he's a fake made up character that doesn't exist. And is also not an animal. But because we have perceived him as male and we call him he, it's weird that he wears a dress in this childhood fantasy fairy tale that also is not real and all of its magic.

And that's against the Bible. But anyways, it's like they're contradicting so many things. But anyways, it's like they're contradicting so many things. Yeah, I haven't watched this specific clip, but I was reading about that, about like what happens in the show where by the end of the episode, Gonzo comes out as non-binary, says my pronouns are they them. Miss Piggy, who had been like, no, boys wear boy clothes and girls wear girl clothes and you can't like you know miss piggy apologizes and like to me it's like obviously this is important messaging to be in children's media and like love that we have that there and then yeah whatever these fox news shitheads are just like getting outraged about television, like children's programming. Yeah, they're like, oh, they're not supposed to understand that gender is a construct until at least college.

We can't we can't alert them to that early on because they have to subscribe to toxic gender norms at the earliest of age and then spend the rest of their lives grappling with that. And then spend the rest of their lives grappling with that. It's almost like if these Fox News anchors had grown up with better modeling in their TV shows. That they would have a better experience communicating their wants and needs. But too bad they didn't have it. And everyone else needs to suffer. Well, because you know what's wild? If you remember at the beginning of the year.

The Muppets were trying to defend them. Donald Trump Jr. I don't know if you because they put disclaimers in front of episodes. He came out and said this is a tweet from him. So this is his words. And this is what he says. Quote, Apparently, the Muppets have now been canceled. There's nothing these psychos won't destroy. Liberalism is a disease. OK, all because they were again, this is the that would uh run at the you know beginning of

episodes because if the deal is they were putting it in front of these old ass episodes from like the 70s and shit that have aged like a fine shrimp cocktail left out in the desert sun for 72 hours so yeah they were like these are fucked up so this is the thing that would read before the episode it's a quote this program includes negative depictions and or mistreatment of people or cultures. Great. These stereotypes were wrong then and they are wrong now. This is the thing that Donald Trump Jr. and the rest of the conservative media sphere was pushing back against because they were acknowledging it. Because in some of these episodes included one where Johnny Cash was singing in front of a Confederate flag.

Oh, God. Again, the disclaimer said said rather than remove this content we want to acknowledge its harmful impact learn from it and spark conversation to create a more inclusive future together now whether or not those conversations are being had is another issue but at the very least they're saying up top yo sorry about yeah this is not good but let's let's let's remember this is bad and this is how we have to move forward from so enjoy your muppetry i have a like a little personal anecdote not puppets but about children's tv because i was recently writing like freelance writing for like children's shows and i was surprised how much more they are regulating the modeling of behavior in a way that i think is

really hopeful but it's for the future but in a way that definitely was not around like i remember watching looney tunes and it was just people i mean the animals hurting each other tom and jerry it was whatever you know like shooting each other in the head yeah like now when i watch i'm like gosh this is so violent but now there's little things where if someone does something bad like oh i cheated in this game because you want to learn a lesson for the kids yeah but they do that they need to immediately have consequences or it's not good modeling to the point where i was like oh wow like we must like i was so used to watching this version where the protagonist just does things wrong and at the end they learn but you let things fall apart but now a lot of the old looney tunes and shit and bugs bunny was doing all kinds of no consequences yeah so now it's a lot i've realized like they are

very watchful of that. Not all. I mean, I don't know what's going on in the like internet digital, but this is like for, you know, a TV channel and they really do put a lot of time into how to model behavior. So I like that.

I think it's like, that must come a long way. Cause you know, I don't feel like I knew when I was being abused, you know, in relationships. So it's like now maybe I'll have, the kids will have a better idea what's right or wrong. Yeah.

What boundaries are, what consequences are. And I even think, you know, again, the Fox and Friends crew, you know, they obviously decided to go the homophobic route to try and, you know, get their audience to be so offended by this when really they could just, you know, what this is about is not bullying people because of how they want to dress or present themselves right like that's the that's the that's what is the message here it's not all the little boys shall wear dresses from henceforth because of this cartoon but again since they can't say this is a message about not bullying they're they obviously have to go that

route so i mean the original cinderella was also not a princess like she she also was fantasizing to be a princess like the whole thing is like it's the same message but they just swapped i mean yeah by default it the whole thing is a lie and she was aspirational i feel like it's like in the in fox and friends perfect world everyone would just be like an adult who's too into disney because that's what they do they infantilize everybody right it's like do you want that no you want people to grow up and grow out of that phase you don't yeah want to take your kids to disneyland i mean you some adults it's fine do acid go disneyland whatever i'm sure it's fun but like that way do it that way you want the ratio to be more children and families you don't want to show up and be like, oh shit, we ruined Disneyland.

You're like, oh, it's a daycare for people that are regressing at a rapid rate. Then it just feels like an EDM festival. You know, it's like, ah. Yeah. That would be wild. Oh man, that reminds me of grad night that they used to do at Disneyland where they would turn Disneyland into a rave

from 8 p.m. to 8 a.m. all night. Would go, would go. That does sound a.m all night would go would go that doesn't sound fun it was i mean it was wild like the last thing you do senior year in high school and like everybody was on drugs and like everybody got in trouble because they're like why do your eyes your pupils look like that i'm like i don't know i think the indiana jones ride was too bright or something but you were like in high school like that i feel like now i'm you know i'm in my third decade of the year of the life and uh third decade because i like to feel i'm still the same age as high school but it in a group of people my age at filling up disneyland on drugs would be very

different yeah but who knows maybe that's the evolution of disneyland that it's meant to be who are we to stand in the way of that that it's a place for people to experiment with psychedelic drugs and be like surrounded by all this childhood imagery so they really do some introspection about their upbringing i don't know and i'm not i think it could be healthy yeah yeah interesting yeah or traumatizing i don't know again i'm not a therapist i'm just some dude who got really fucked up at disney. Okay, I want to move on to talk about New York Governor Andrew Cuomo and his predatory behavior that has been revealed very clearly after Attorney General Letitia James released the findings of her office. I think this line sums it all up. Quote, we, the investigators appointed to conduct an investigation into allegations of sexual harassment by Governor Andrew M. Cuomo, conclude that the governor engaged in conduct constituting sexual harassment under federal and New York state law.

OK, that's it. That that seems pretty nailed on. interviews with 179 people and the reviewing of more than 74 000 documents uh and ended with a stunning finding that cuomo sexually harassed 11 women including state employees and a new york state trooper he also retaliated against one woman who had gone public with her allegations against him this is what's in the ag report um couldn't be a clear picture of someone that has a clear history with harassment that has a clear pattern of behavior doesn't see their transgressions as transgressions at all yet he's doing this whole thing where he because like he knows that doing the conservative or old school defense which is they're all liars is going to result in calamity like that was that's like the one thing that i feel like he's

like okay since me too happened you can't say they're liars so what i do now is you yes and it okay that's i'm in the improv i yes and like i did that but i also did other things so why aren't you getting those things all those things are bad right and like that yeah well and i just want to play because again as it relates to his yes ending this he he released a video um and we touched on it kind of briefly yesterday but he released this video where he's essentially being like yeah dude i touch people in the face all the time um and and this is how this is how his just how sort of i don't know just ridiculous this this defense is i do it with everyone black and white young and old lgbtq powerful people

friends strangers people who I meet on the street. Okay. All underneath that was the most cringy fucking slideshow of him and Bill Clinton just exchanging powers of like, yeah, they're just like, how did you hear? They were like nose to nose. And again, even in these photos, no one looks comfortable. All these. I mean, I imagine other people who are in these videos might watch and go like oh yeah that was weird and now it's weirder that you highlighted oh this is weird this is actually so his defense is like no no no i make

everyone uncomfortable that i come in contact with i don't discriminate against anybody i will make every single person no matter regardless of age gender sexuality i will touch them all and that makes it okay yeah and i think that's a marie salise in jezebel wrote you know essentially that like this is how sort of the men are still able to hijack this narrative of what's actually happening by leaning into this thing of like i do it all the time is now robbing the like these these people who have these allegations against him of the actual truth of it all which is that they did this and they made me feel uncomfortable because now he's doing it to be like i do it to everybody so they're just tripping you see what i'm saying here like what's the's the problem? That's the way it has now spun. And granted, you know, a lot like, you know, many people have been like, you need to resign.

It seems that in Andrew Cuomo's mind, he's done the good part by saying like, yeah, but I do that all the time. So like, what's the problem here? It totally takes away the point that like people want to express how it makes them feel he's just saying like, well, I didn't mean it that way. And say like as someone who knows a lot of people and has personal experience, like having to like on a very small scale, like go through third party investigations. It is very hard. Like companies include like they will go through every length to make sure that they're protected. So if this is actually the findings, you know, it was so much worse. Yeah.

Well, this one, the difference being, though, the attorney general's office, they hired an independent body. But they always do that. They always, quote unquote, hire an independent. And they're always like, legally, could you poke holes in this in court? And then they try to poke every hole. And the fact that they couldn't means that they were like, well, you got to just admit to some of this. And he was like, well well why don't i just not think it's wrong which is the old boys will

be boys mentality of like well i never knew i get one yeah like i get one warning you know uh now i know it's wrong i won't do it again i couldn't do that i grew up watching looney tunes where buggy bunny did whatever the fuck he wanted to i'm sorry okay maybe if i was watching this new muppet Baby stuff, I'd be less of a creep. Well, because it's wild that he's not even acknowledging like, oh, fuck, I made them feel bad. Like the whole time it's like,

well, it's okay because I didn't mean to make them feel bad. No. Like what? Well, what if your intention doesn't matter if the results are like, yeah, what the F? Oh, God. Yeah. But so this is sort of where things are at you know again like joe biden interestingly enough

he's like you should resign and many people like what about tara reed but yeah this is the whole thing with this sort of moment is this is sort of the new age defense for like liberal men to just be like yes and it's normal to now be like see i admitted to it but i'm going to completely change the narrative by just saying how traditional or normal this is um the thing that's interesting is like a lot of people like what the fuck are you doing like can you resign like are you what what what is the deal here because a lot of write-ups are like this surely has to be the end of him his you know his tenure as governor. But here's the thing. He does have his eye on a fourth term.

And you'd think that he would just not run again. If he's refusing to resign, maybe he'll say, you know what, though? I won't be running for a fourth term. Like, I understand, like at a minimum. But he hasn't really even said that. And the reason he's running for a fourth term or might want to is because like most emotionally healthy men he is in a made-up competition with his dad um former governor mario cuomo who is his father was governor of new york and he ran for a fourth term and he lost to

george pataki in 1994 and a lot of people think he wants to do what his old man couldn't and win that fourth term. And like all this shit is like, I don't give a fuck. Like I'm going to, I'll just do what I got to do to get to this fourth term to prove I'm better than daddy. Why are we still waiting for his, like, I do think that we are still like you said it miles early that there was a long way to go. And I think it's the way the specifically what I feel like we haven't bridged is the fact that the power structure is still in the hands of most of these men like we're still kind of waiting for them to acknowledge the pain or say like you got me and it's like the reality is i think we just need to be like yeah you don't have the power anymore and it's okay if you don't think you did anything wrong but like we all agree that you did and so that's the truth now because for so long

their truth was the truth and it just wasn't and yeah i think those are the growing pains as you try and see a society grapple with this kind of misogyny is like we're just in that like the infancy where the the best men are gonna do now is like yeah but it's okay but it's normal i did that but it's normal it's like when you try to break up with someone and you want them to agree like you it's hard you but you sometimes just have to do it like it's not like they might not sign off they might be like you agree to this breakup like you just have to be like it's over sometimes they might be like but the longer you keep talking the more they might be like but maybe like and i've been on both sides of that it's just like you just have

to cut it you just have to be like it's over you did the thing we see it that's it it's all right yeah right like someone with this pattern of behavior of just like toxic harassing predatory behavior you can't be like okay we'll resign because you did the wrong thing because he's like well I didn't do he still doesn't think he did anything wrong so like he can't you can't hold make or expect these people to hold themselves accountable like that that's just not how that works so yeah there's got to be something else yeah i mean i wish one day it could just be like you know if you if you're committing sexual harassment that again according to them uh constituting sexual harassment under federal and new york state law you'd be like yeah that that means you're done like that's automatic you know like if that's found oh that's criminal not in their job description like you can't get fired for that

come on like him owning it quote-unquote owning it would be like yeah i messed up really bad i'll resign now sorry everybody but that was terrible yeah you're right. I've got a lot of thinking to do. And also, I'm a millionaire. So, like, there's really no big deal. Like, I'm not going to be broke. I'll still be fine. But my dad. But my dad, though.

Oh, geez. Please, Andrew. But we'll see what happens. I mean, it seems like the pressure could be mounting. But seldom do we see very powerful men, you know, relinquish their power like that. Right. Check out the rest of history for more.

Let's talk really quickly about this Belarusian sprinter, Christina Simoniskaya. She was making headlines last week and not because of her prowess on the track, but because she feared for her life after criticizing her coaches on Instagram. And I just want to kind of like just describe the like sort of back and forth that occurred. So it started when the 24 year old runner, this is from the Daily Beast. She thought she was going to run in the 200 meter.

That's like her event. She runs the two. But then she realized her track coaches had put her also as a participant in the four by one hundred meter relay. And no one told her that no one consulted her. And she's like, I'm I need to focus on the one race that I actually may have a chance to medal in. I don't. Have you seen we're not going to win the four by one like I'm here to do the two hundred. This is really fucked up. Like and I don't like that no one even asked me about this. And so she posted a video really angry really angry you know really criticizing the coaches on the team and so the post came down but the thing is everyone in minsk the capital of belarus had

already like saw it and the order quote came through for her to return home immediately so this is when shit got real uh because bel is considered Europe's last dictatorship, where Lukashenko, he's been in power for 27 years and uses torture, murder, everything to intimidate dissenters. It's fucking awful. So she made a partial recording of the confrontation when her coaches pulled up to her room and said, yo, you got to go home. We're putting you on a plane because we got the order. And at first they tried to convince her that it will be all good. They were like, you know, we can just chalk this up to a childish indiscretion. All will be forgotten, but let's just go home. And like, you know, let's take the L and everything will be okay. She told them, you and I both know that's not going to happen. Like, you know, everything is

not going. She's like, I fear from what will happen to me if I go back. Like, let's be real. We're both from this same country. We know what the stakes are. Then they tried to pivot to sort of like her altruism and said, look, man, if you don't come, like a lot of people are going to suffer. OK, like it's going to fall on me for not getting you there. It might fuck up the chances of your other teammates because of this whole thing.

Because earlier, some athletes had also signed on to a letter that was critical of Lukashenko. And that caused a bunch of problems for them. And they're like, please, don't make us suffer because you were so indignant. That didn't work either. Because she's like, I know what will happen to me if I go back. I do not want to go back. And yeah, maybe I misstepped, but I did it. And now I'm in a position? I do not want to go back. And yeah, maybe I misstepped, but I did it. And now I'm in a position where I'm not going to go back. Then they tried to appeal to her religious beliefs. And just again, she said, no, I don't care. Try another one.

Then they ultimately tried to force her onto a plane back to Minsk at Narita Airport. And she fled to police and clung to them. So they weren't able to physically put her on the plane. And then she ducked out in the Polish embassy for a couple of days before she returned to the airport to head to Poland because the government had offered her and her husband refuge with her and her husband. So she was like, OK, let me do that. The thing is, when she got to the airport, she at the last minute switched to a flight to go to Vienna Austria because she I don't know if you remember um earlier in the year uh like Belarusian

secret service hijacked a Ryanair flight to take a dissident journalist to Belarus and she was like I'm not about to have that shit happen to me either so she got on this other flight and the other thing is this is another just freaky part of it from the daily beast quote she will also have been unnerved by news that a ukraine-based dissident whose organization helped her husband flee belarus had been found hanged in a kiev park oh yeah i heard that and they were trying to say it was like a suicide but it was clearly like a but they officially said it's a suicide or a murder designed to look like a suicide like well then it's a murder but they officially said it's a suicide or a murder designed to look like a suicide. It's like, well, then it's a murder.

Sure. They also said that she had, like, I think they were trying to, the official narrative was that she had like mental health issues and she was like, I didn't, I was clear to come here and no doctor saw me.

It's like the most telling is when they tried to appeal to her by saying like, well, something will happen to us because it's like, well, if you don't think it's scary there, why would it be scary for you? And like keeps saying it's not political. And the more that

she says that, the more they're mad because in these kinds of situations, dictatorships, it's what you don't say. Like everyone's so afraid of speaking the truth that just by not saying anything, you're saying like when you get to the point where by saying nothing, you're saying the truth because there's nothing else you can say, it's so obvious how bad things are that the government is literally just like, don't talk at all! And you're like, okay,

so you don't even think there's a chance I would say something good, which says more about how you view yourself then. Why? What are you insecure about? You think some fuck shit is going on over here? No, I'm just saying, I just don't want to say anything. Yeah, it really feels like the plot from a thriller thriller film but this is this is the world we're in there's

many governments like that too that are you know crushed dissent in the same way but ultimately they said uh even though she's going to vienna she will be going to poland and yeah it's just there's so much happening it's like that has nothing to do with the Olympics this time. It's like there's such a delicate, like these dictators and these forces of power know how like scammy everything is that if one piece falls off, then everything falls apart. And so they can't risk someone getting away.

Like just even the idea of like, oh, you can go represent your country in the Olympics and then you can escape and be free. The fact that you would want to be free is very telling and so like i don't even know like i mean honestly i part of me hopes that she was trying to get out from the beginning but it does sound like maybe she slipped up and and then had to get out but i wouldn't be surprised if some people were like maybe i'll have a chance to just like seek asylum while i'm abroad right yeah but uh yeah anyway the i think olympics are wrapping up soon but uh what an eventful

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similar because it's a challenge that's popular, but has some shitty side effects. Just so you know, on NBC News, they just sort of looked into it. At the time of the writing of the article, there were 667 million views under the hashtag frozen honey hashtag and 89.7 million views for the hashtag frozen honey challenge tag and every video is kind of the same thing someone shows off some honey and takes a huge bite and i just want to play just a video for everybody so you can understand what this looks like um because it's oh gosh i mean it looks like motherfuckers is eating a bunch of honey and I don't understand what the fucking appeal is. So this video is from at Avery Cyrus and the caption under it is BRB. Gotta go get my stomach pumped.

And I'm like, what? And this is her eating frozen honey. This frozen honey thing apparently tells me super satisfying. Let's do it. Okay, it's just frozen honey and you have to squeeze it out. Oh, that looks so cool that is a big ass bite of honey but not appetizing oh my god it's like a pop as soon as you take a bite it starts melting oh it looks like she's eating so much sugar a lot of sugar it's so much sugar right you're like

you're looking at that you're like what the fuck are y'all doing that is just a bunch of this is a big hunk of fucking honey you're just eating there's nothing interesting about this except you're just eating a bunch of sugar in a different form now to be fair we did like grow up when literal extra large soda like things were sold on the schoolyard oh of course but like but but we were but that wasn't presented to us in the form of a challenge that was just like the insidiousness of our like yeah food food culture was like yeah man kids need 64 ounces of high fructose corn syrup what the fuck you're talking about gyms you know buy them at the student store yeah eat this uh raven's revenge which is basically just sugar

in a fucking test tube that was colored and you're like oh it's a cool flavor you're like dude you're just eating a just a thing of sugar right now um but yes it all comes look this all comes in cycles but the difference here is that like you all said that's a lot of sugar and a lot of people many health experts are saying like you know small amounts of honey not a health concern eating a fifth or more of a bottle of honey at a time can be a sugar overload a registered dietitian who just like interviewed for this article say quote honey is great but having it in small amounts to sweeten is really a healthy relationship with food and using it to get a lot of followers and a lot of attention and having it in excess amounts is crazy not the best choice of words there but then she says about

they go on to say one in three people has dietary fructose intolerance so that's called i guess called fructose malabsorption which means the cells in the intestines don't absorb fructose the way they should causing gastrointestinal distress meaning cramps meaning diarrhea meaning all kinds of toilet stuff that you don't want and on top of that maybe even pulling out some fillings and things because a lot of these people would do it and afterwards be like don't do it man like i just pooped for like seven days straight like i and clearly these people are probably falling in the category of the fructose malabsorption. Yeah. But some people are just doing colors where they're like, oh, this one's purple.

It's like, you just put purple food dye in honey. That's not anything different. And sugar. And then you ate it. And then you shat a bunch. Poor bees. I mean, the bees are still endangered, right? Yeah. Yeah.

And here we are just eating. Chomping on their. Gobs of honey. I mean, I don't know howping on their gobs of honey i mean i don't know what how it relates to the other but i know they don't want to see that i don't know that's how they want to see their work just be absolutely disrespected i mean i've seen b movie and i can safely say that no that is not what the piece was we used to okay here if any gen z kids want to eat something frozen and this is what this is gonna make me sound so old, but we used to freeze grapes. And then there's a delicious frozen treat.

Delicious. Get a little bunch of green grapes, pop them in the freezer. That's what we used to do. Ooh, a nice little frozen. The texture is so yummy. You could sprinkle a little sugar on it if you want. But like just the grape itself, beautiful texture. Chomp, chomp, chomp.

If you freeze a banana, blend it with some like peanut butter and chocolate bam you've got some vegan uh ice cream yeah yummy look at us see children you don't have to have diarrhea on tiktok for followers that's what are we doing kids we don't need to do all that yeah a lot of people were just kind of again everyone was like this is really bad it's it's messing up my body and what are we gonna do but they say like a lot of experts are just warning like please think about this you don't want to just like have a huge risk with your just sort of short-sightedness of wanting to get a lot of followers they just think like this is not going to be good for people with

health conditions and they might discover very quickly that that could happen that being said that something like that would make me want to do it more if i was a kid like someone going don't do this for the followers like i'd be like well fuck you like it's like getting on the roller coaster you're not my dad i'm like how many followers you got you're like oh maybe 98 yeah exactly you talking like somebody with 98 followers shit i'm trying to get to 40k motherfucker you kidding me yeah and like i'll be real when i see that it is appealing like i wonder what that's like is because you know it's gooey and it's frozen but i'm also as i get older i know which a lot of sugar does to me too and then part of me like oh that's where my reality has

come into focus i'm like i like it but i'm actually old enough now and have fucked with my body around enough to know that i shouldn't do that but please let us know how it tastes maybe the way we can stop these trends is if all of us uncool and i'm not like you know what you guys are cool i'm just saying like you know gen Z doesn't think we're cool if we all suddenly were like oh yeah let's hop on this trend like boom and then it's like all these like older millennials doing it they would immediately be like oh this isn't cool anymore

it's like the side part that's how we stop them and we fake it we have to sacrifice ourselves exactly we're like cheeky body cleanse eat the frozen honey and then you clear your intestines out. It's so healthy, y'all. Like, I feel like I'm glowing.

I'm adulting by getting frozen honey and just diarrhea, y'all, with my red wine and Harry Potter posters. Are you for real right now? Hashtag avocado toast. Yeah. Maybe that is the key. I feel like we...

It's like when my mom started calling sandals thongs. And then I was like, oh, don't do that. But that's like what they used to call them. But the thong song came out and she'd be like, oh, you guys wearing thongs to the pool? And you're like, no, wait, what are you talking about? I wonder, yeah, if we have to undertake a generational experiment and say like the next big Gen Z thing,

we try and just make it so just make it untenable for the youth where they're like these fucking people took the one good thing like on fleek like it's gonna destroy people did the arm fleek it's gonna destroy the entire millennial generation because we're not going i mean like the hell i mean these kids are young and they're still like shitting themselves like are 35 like are like mid-30s bodies which is like collapsed instantly gone honestly i can't think of a better way for our entire generation to just disappear by like right trying to do something good and totally doing it the wrong way like it is way. Like it is very much the millennial way. God. Yeah.

So I don't know. The TikTok trends, they're truly out there. One other thing I just wanted to point out is the succulent trade in South Africa. Apparently there's a black market for succulents. That is a popping off. I was reading this article in the New York Times times where obviously we're all in california succulents are like currency you know people love succulents and also there's like a boom with succulents because like for a lot of people it's like i can't keep a normal plant alive

but a succulent i can give just about the amount of water i'm i'm sort of have the wherewithal to do and i can keep it alive and i feel good about myself and then uh the pandemic only made like indoor plants and like the maintenance like low maintenance plants like super popular but underneath that all was like a bubbling exotic succulent market that was like super illegal right now like the hashtag for a succulent has like over 12 million images out there but south africa is very interesting because it's home to about a third of the world's succulent species so like it's a popping all like if you were into the succulents you need to check out south africa um and there's one very popular species called the

conophytum and it's become so fucking big that it's it's caused like international illegal trade and before uh the pandemic they said like a lot of people who would get caught like sort of stealing or smuggling uh succulents out of south africa they said were primarily chinese and korean passport holders because the the fees they could get for these plants were like astronomical but since the pandemic has forced restrictions on travel these foreign buyers have been hiring like locals to do all the poaching and like they give these people like gps coordinates and they're like okay go there they're growing here here's what you need to do send them back like this and this shift has like brought like conservation

authorities in the country into all- out battle with all these young unemployed people who are like incentivized to grab these plants to essentially find, you know, it's like one of their few financial recourses that are available to them. And the surge in poaching has like gotten to the point where like when authorities confiscate these illegal plants, they give them to like local greenhouses and nurseries to be like, hopefully you can replant these and things like that. But they're like, we have so many. If we replanted them, we would just inundate an entire area with one species of succulent and that'll fuck up all the biodiversity. So like we're receiving plants at a rate that we can't even fucking replant.

And it's only speeding up. Anyway, I don't know to i just want to bring that up because i didn't realize it was that big the thing that happens is the internet just allows people to just see like pretty succulents and what it's called and half the time like you'll see shit on amazon this is from this article in the new york times uh that said quote a recent study by the convention of international trade and endangered species basically they combat illegal wildlife trade they found some 365 endangered medicinal plants being sold openly on amazon and ebay so like whoa the thing is too we have like this weird blind spot where people just go oh they're plants cool plants aren't illegal they're plants like it's not drugs

and unwittingly are like actually contributing to like this illegal succulent trade drugs are made almost everything is that's like um the the internet popularity of certain things and the speed of which it spreads has been like i've heard that for products too like it'll just be like random things like oh this one lip gloss and some influencers like i love this and then the entire target will be sold out of it everywhere right i think um yeah we're definitely not there's like almost two models of advertising happening right now there's like the old way and then there's like this really rapid spread way now that's we can't handle consumers can't handle yeah we're very on the internet people like and i get it like if you

if you start looking through a gallery of like people's landscaping or whatever and it's like oh those are beautiful because there are people who are like buying them in the thousands oh gosh whoa and like and they'll find them in like little plantlings and like they they get confiscated in the mail and things like that but succulents man is this an instance that might speed up uh that might be bullish for 3d printing because i feel like if we're just going after trendy appearances this could be a huge win for 3d printing because imagine if you're like i like how that looks on tiktok i don't know what it is yeah here here yeah the 3d modeling company can quickly create a pattern for something that

viral you just print it out. I mean, maybe that could be where we're headed. And then we could all have very exotic plants. I would actually print out like a full Tyrannosaurus Rex skeleton. That would be sick just to have that. Because I don't care if it's real, but just for the majesty of it. Everyone on your street did that, though. And then they all came to life. I would get so mad. would be like are you three oh hold on rick are you also 3d printing a fucking t-rex

god damn it i have my shit looking so good and you know and look caitlin and i we we know we have a love for jurassic park so obviously it's good you do as well i have a i have a crop top that i mean that doesn't mean anything but i do have one but i love i got it i got a t-rex crop i mean my name is i don't know none of these things mean anything but in my mind i've always like loved t-rex's because i don't know because my name is teresa t-rexa yeah yeah exactly i mean and do you know the movie jurassic park fairly well teresa if i asked you about it do you remember in the last scene where they're in the visitor center and the raptors are seemingly have our our heroes backs against the wall and looks like all is lost and then out of nowhere the motherfucking t-rex comes through and saves the day caitlin and i discussed this where the

fuck did that t-rex come from that's the one that's the one thing i take issue we call what do we call that deus rex machina deus rex machina yeah happy to have coined that i like that that's the one unbelievable part of that movie yeah for me i was all on board yes i'll suspend my disbelief for every other thing you know i didn't believe there was a female doctor you know that part didn't really exist. Dr. Ellie? No. What is this? This is propaganda. What is it? We've got to get this off the screen. Alright, well, Teresa, thank you so much for joining

us on the Daily Zeitgeist. It's been a tremendous pleasure. Where can people find you and follow you and hear you, watch you, and what's a tweet that you like? Oh, thanks for having me. You can follow me at Teresa Lee Bot on Instagram and at Larissa T on Twitter. Also, I will be crowdfunding for my short film.

Not yet. Probably in two weeks. So follow me and I will definitely spam all of you. Oh, here's the tweet. Amy Silverberg tweeted this and I thought it was funny. Last night in bed, I whispered into my boyfriend's ear, I'm worried the world is coming to an end. And he said, there are mashed potatoes in the fridge.

I enjoyed that. Oh, my God. Caitlin, thank you so much. Urinal tit dance. The hashtag urinal tit dance craze is going up on TikTok. Congratulations on that. Thank you. Where can people find you and follow you listen

to you learn from you and what's the tweet that you like you can follow me on twitter and instagram at caitlin durante you can check out uh the podcast i co-host with jamie loftus called the bechtel cast in which we examine movies through an intersectional feminist lens. You can take screenwriting classes that I teach, which you can find out more information about at caitlyndurante.com slash classes. And a tweet, I forgot to really find something good, but here's something I just retweeted from at Paddington Bear bear who does follow me i am one of 105 followers of paddington

bear on twitter i take a lot of pride in that and wow i know he paddington bear has over 200,000 followers he only follows 105 and i'm one of them. What is the handle for Paddington Bear? Just at Paddington Bear. Oh, okay. Damn, how do I get? Pretty simple. Oh, and Paddington's verified? Fuck. Of course he's verified. 105 people

that you are the only people I know is Paddington's following you and Stephen Fry. Oh, wow. Wow. And Liam Gallagher. And so many, many other people. And the royal family.

Interesting. I feel very special. Paddington, you know, just says it's time for a cup of tea and a slice of cake. And is he wrong? No. Fuck you. Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. You love to see it. this is just a reminder that everyone

should see paddington and paddington too yes and next time when the full crew is together we will have seen it all between jack and i um let's see some tweets that i like uh this is from brody reed a past guest wonderful guest at aobrobro following the news from forbes saying that rihanna is now officially a billionaire at aobrobo tweeted pains me to say that rihanna should not exist since she is now a billionaire and then another one on that same thread uh aida at shut up aida said oh shit rihanna billionaire now i know y'all said eat the rich but is there any chance you were talking about pussy? Because a lot of people are having trouble with putting Rihanna down. And another one is from at your analog, buddy.

It's a picture of Grimes and what do you call it? Elon Musk. Elon Musk. I look at him and I'm like, what the fuck's this fucking turd's name? Grimes and Elon Musk together, like, I think at an airport. And it says improv teacher and the student he is dating. Oh, my God. I know.

Yeah, that's Dan Glazer. Funny New Yorker. Shout out to Dang Laser, Dan Glazer. Wonderful. Wonderful. I mean, I think that's mostly for improv people because, like, that immediately evokes something for, like, a very specific example.

And this other one, I just because it made me laugh so much. It's just so stupid. But it's it's an image. So I apologize for describing this on a podcast, but it's a reclining couch that has like a cup holder in it. And one of those like console lids and these people are like like putting it on a car. So the cup holders and the console lid looks like putting it on a car so the the cup holders and the console lid looks like a mouth that's screaming on the couch and it just put me down put me down put me down um wonderful wonderful you can find me at miles of gray on twitter and

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