The Daily Zeitgeist - Oh THAT Russian Oligarch… AUSTRALIA IS FAKE 5.9.18

Episode Date: May 9, 2018

In episode 144, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Brandon Johnson to discuss the recent midterm elections and the women who killed it, Michael Avenetti's receipts on Michael Cohen receiving money ...from big companies like AT&T along with a Russian oligarch, the dual realities currently existing in America, the new conspiracy from flat earthers that Australia is not real, & more!  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:11 Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 30, Episode 3 of the Daily Zeitgeist. For May 9th, 2018, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Iron Like a Lion O'Brien. That is courtesy of Anil Ladi And I'm thrilled to be joined As always by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray Wagwan Jack you good no?
Starting point is 00:02:36 Irminal Zite Guy Because give it to me gravy Uh huh uh huh And all the girls say I'm pretty Miles for a zeitgeist. That is from AKA Goddess Chapman Rice coming through like she does with the Fire AKAs to start the show off. You know, and I'm glad she's back. You know, it's been a while.
Starting point is 00:03:02 It's been a while. I don't know what's going on. Maybe you're busy. It's been a while. But you're back. she's back. It's been a while. It's been a while. I don't know what's going on. Maybe you're busy. It's been a while. But you're back. You're back. And we are thrilled to have in our third seat one of the funniest people working, you know, from Comedy Bang Bang, Spontanean Nation, Harmontown.
Starting point is 00:03:18 He was the host of Cracked Gets Personal. You might know him from the Adult Swim show, NTSFSDSUV. And as Mr. Goldenfold on Rick and Morty, he is the hilarious Brandon Johnson. What's up, podcast folks? What's up, podcast nation? This is the zeitgeist. This is the zeitgeist. We got you sleeping, though.
Starting point is 00:03:43 We got you sleeping, though. Bang, I just shot a dude in the head. We got you sleeping now. We got you sleeping now. Bang, I just shot a dude in the head. While I got a pose from a vintage black poster. Yeah. Got to hit him with that Jim Crow stance. How are you? I'm good, man. I'm so glad to be here.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Thanks so much for having me. Brandon, we met years ago working on a show with Nick Thune at ucb the next big talk show yeah uh that's where we first gazed upon each other and realized we were virgo brothers from other mothers that's right opposite sides of the country but i'm yeah it's dope to see you always been a huge fan man i remember we were in san francisco remember we rented that white limo that was crazy that was beautiful we got a big ass house in the Castro District. We were there for the comedy festival. It was a blast, dude. It was amazing.
Starting point is 00:04:28 You had to put people on to get them hip to Israel, I remember. Very epic, very politically-minded man. I'm like, you know what? I'll rock with Brandon. I won. Yeah. Brandon, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? I like birds, man.
Starting point is 00:04:46 I was looking at different types of cranes because i think birds are dope here's the thing real quick if i can can i jump in this real quick we got time for this here's the cool thing i'm a religious person right i got a i got a pretty strong faith and uh i'm always amazed that the creator be a he or she or a bird or whatever for you, designed a planet, brought a planet together, and you didn't have to use color. Everything would be dope, even if there was no color.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Like, I'd still eat a banana. Is this black and white TV? Is this grayscale? If everything was just on that grayscale. But whoever was making the shit was like, watch me fuck you up with this robin, but then this is a blue jay.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Boom. Watch me fuck you up. Okay, so it's trees, right? Yeah. But not all trees do the same shit. Like some is Christmas trees and some is oranges.
Starting point is 00:05:33 You're like, what? And like, what about these? Are these oranges? Nah, dog. I was working with yellow that day so they limit.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Bang! Mother fuck! So I'm like this. So you were getting high watching Planet Earth last night. Right. I was high on Planet Earth last night. Yeah, exactly. There you go. There you go. And I'm like this. So you were getting high watching Planet Earth last night. Right. I was high on Planet Earth last night. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:05:47 There you go. There you go. And I'm always intrigued by birds because I'm like, Jesus, whoever is designing the planet sure does have a lot of extra paint left over for something that doesn't really have to come in that many colors but does. What are the big sort of characteristics of a crane? Just like super long legs? It's like a
Starting point is 00:06:05 tall pigeon okay um and there's not a lot of cranes and cranes get uh confused with other types of birds like there's a million kinds of hawks but a hawk isn't the same thing as a raptor right so a crane dinosaur like the yeah like a dinosaur oh they evolved into birds they evolved into birds i hear this you see what i'm trying to tell you is that it's crazy out there if you look up in these trees. Evolution of Beauty is a good book for bird fanatics, for people who like birds. Also, State Birds of California is a really good bird book. Is it got like the drawings and stuff that identifies them? That'd be amazing.
Starting point is 00:06:40 A bird book with no illustrations. Just describing it like, yeah, I got a yellow beak. It's like kind of an orangish yellow. You're like, fuck, man, this book is useless. What is something you think is overrated? Overrated? White people's conversation on Kanye West's recent outburst. You can keep that to yourself.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Okay. Don't nobody want to hear what y'all got to say on that on that conversation because i'm gonna break it down right lately you you've been hearing the conversation has now shifted to thank god for childish gambino right at the perfect time when kanye was self-destructing what were we gonna listen to in our party bus limo this weekend hush let us grieve yeah let us grieve man we gonna go get kanye bring him back y'all don't have shit to say because really all kanye was saying is the shit that white people say all the goddamn time so here's the deal if you participate in the destruction of a race and then that person from that race chimes in with you, stand down.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Don't say nothing. Because obviously the first thing on that dude's mind when he loses his mind is how much he feels disenfranchised. That's what you hear. What you listen to is a black dude being so frustrated with being black that he actually, for a second, entertained the concepts of the other side. And when that happens to us, as white people, man, don't kick us when we down. And certainly don't treat us like light bulbs and be like,
Starting point is 00:08:11 thank God we ran out of cheeseburgers at the buffet and somebody brought in new sliders. Donald Glover not no new slider. You don't get access to either one, to be quite honest with you. Both of them belong to us. So so to hear white people even have some shit to say about a condition that they created and continue to create
Starting point is 00:08:32 makes me a little frustrated you can keep that now next year when he goes crazy and he starts saying and he starts saying some shit maybe then chime in yeah but right now the boy said my wife got attacked it broke me down that she got attacked i supplied security my album didn't do well it's first time i got beat by drake i don't like that right i don't like that he said jay jay ain't been around my ace boom cool ain't been around he said i'm turning 40 whatever i'm a little stressed out about that i'm 85 million dollars in debt i'm a little stressed out about that. I'm $85 million in debt. I'm a little stressed out about that. And instead of people being like, well, he got a lot going on.
Starting point is 00:09:11 He got a lot going on. People were like, huh, did you hear what Kanye said? Like, did you hear what your neighbor said? Right. Did you hear what your president said, B? Did you hear what the average shopkeeper in a mall says to me every time I go shopping? Until you are outraged at that shit, you can leave hip-hop, something that you never
Starting point is 00:09:28 were listening to in the first place, you can leave that shit alone. Because hip-hop to us is sacred. It is the call from plantation to plantation about when Harry is going to stop by and free us. So we don't need no extra, extra commentary. We don't need any punditry
Starting point is 00:09:44 on something that is so very intimate to us. You can stand down. It'd be like me shitting on all the white women who voted for Trump. You think women want to hear that shit? Women don't want to hear that shit. They want to be like, we'll be over here trying to talk to these ladies about what the fuck just happened. We don't need to hear. And men don't get the right to go after women for any reason not even when women act like men
Starting point is 00:10:07 calm the fuck down with you with kanye though do you look at him like you listed all these l's he took in like the last couple years right to sort of like that this is a culmination do you also just see that like he might just be ignorant as fuck and it's not a breaking point like he's just kind of you know he's so insular like he's so insulated and it's not a breaking point. He's just kind of so insular. He's so insulated, and he's in Calabasas not really engaged. I don't know if he's really met someone who has an actual job and understands sort of what the reality is of somebody who is not a millionaire. I mean, black people, we all got cousins.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Right. So even if you get up out the hood. Yeah, but his are trying to be like, yo, I got this you fucking on it i need a quarter million dollars right that might even put him off yeah exactly so that's what that's why i feel like too because when ti was talking he said that when he spoke with kanye kanye didn't hadn't even heard of the travel ban right that's how even off the the planet he is it's just yeah it is a confusing thing but i will shout out that like he did make jesus walks people keep and a lot of his work has been about the black community has been about new slaves for christ's sake you know when he did new slaves that was incredible on snl he brought
Starting point is 00:11:18 up a ton of points about not getting uh credit for shit on his own album but then we watch somebody do this is america on snl and we like we actually act as if we are watching something different we're not we're not watching something different he's incredible donald glover yeah he's innovative but i'm just saying like damn you all get to decide who gets to be anointed and you're not even in the community that's not fair like kanye has been down for a long time i think i i don't know part of me knows when i see him talk like this now part of me wonders if he knew that that's what life was like or it just made sense to as a style to market himself that that was like that because especially when he was railing against like this new slave stuff and trying to do things differently and like you know he was talking about all the
Starting point is 00:12:08 corporations this and that and i was like well then why don't you not do your tour with aeg or something why don't you why can't you be a little more actually revolutionary rather than just saying something like that that's where it rang a little hollow with me especially on that album where i was just kind of like you're talking about it but not a fucking thing you were doing is actually aside from rapping about it i don't see anything in your life that really it doesn't seem like you are actually fighting for anything aside from through your music which is fine but at the same time i don't know if he can just then anoint himself as some kind of like revolutionary person and and pump himself up saying like i am walt disney and all
Starting point is 00:12:45 this other shit it's crazy because when he came out and he was like i'm not getting the amount of respect i deserve in the fashion world and a bunch of people pointed out a very a very good fact which was like you build fubu you you make rock aware you you come up with that you don't go over to louis vuitton moe hennessy and ask them for a directorship because you don't know how to sell, bro. Right. But at the same time, Virgil Abloh is the head of Louis Vuitton now. Right. So there was something to what he was saying. No, for sure. I'm not saying that there wasn't. But it's the parts that were about like his advocacy for African-American people, for trying to talk about the disenfranchised or marginalized. That just seemed like it was rhetorical and it didn't feel quite like, Oh,
Starting point is 00:13:28 you know what? I'm actually only hiring like, you know, this union to work specifically to do this tour, or I'm going to change the structure of how the money generated from a tour is distributed and just doesn't go to a massive company or whatever. Yes. Those are the kinds of,
Starting point is 00:13:42 but I don't know. Maybe that's just my take because I have the point of view to be able to see how that works. And that's why I'm kinds of, but I don't know, maybe that's just my take because I have the point of view to be able to see how that works. And that's why I'm like, well, I don't know how much, you know, the dude doesn't read either. That's another thing that really bothers me about him. He doesn't read. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:54 And he's also like an anti-academic. Also, look, you know, we started the week talking about, I don't like the Kanye Donald Glover comparison. I don't like that. Because it's not about that. It's not right. It's not relevant. It doesn't. The only comparison you can make is that. Because it's not about that. It's not right. It's not relevant. It doesn't,
Starting point is 00:14:05 the only comparison you can make is that yes, they're both artists. You remember when Leo was Leonardo DiCaprio, I call him Leo because we like that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Which I don't know is man, Leo rents the apartment above my house. It's crazy. No, he doesn't. He's on the down low. He's like just so humble. He lives in a one bedroom
Starting point is 00:14:23 in Los Feliz. Yeah, yeah. Above me, but we kick it and I was like, when i was watching people go back and forth about the comparison i was like it reminded me of django man when leo's in the living room and he's watching two black dudes fight and he's like kill him i was like right that's kind of how yeah that's not yeah and that's not productive yeah and it's not don't we don't need to give people these like messy titles like you know ordain them things like that that's not what this is about you know and so that's why i feel like
Starting point is 00:14:48 the converse conversations are a little bit misguided when they start creeping in that direction yes but anyway and i feel like we're doing this with mengazi too with like you know so guys is what we call the whole me too thing like the whole me too thing and and it's like okay this guy's on our side that guy's on their side and every like it's being charged with like taking sides and shit and you know people are being used for the purposes of this culture war and everybody wants to turn everything into like different sides of that there's only one side like yeah monetize you know what's crazy about that movement is didn't nobody go get all the people that got discriminated against and monetize them? Because that's really what it's about.
Starting point is 00:15:27 They didn't empower his victims. Right. I don't need to pick a side. If you really want to show me change, show me motherfuckers that has eaten. When you talk about we don't like this injustice, we don't like that injustice, unless you go and lift those people up that got put down, then I don't really want to hear your punditry. Right. You know? that got put down that I don't really want to hear your pun you know I started doing
Starting point is 00:15:44 these shows where we talk about issues but we donate the door to the issue that we talked about because I was noticing that people sort of made their money off of the issue it's like you got all these different hosts on TV right now
Starting point is 00:16:00 that talk a great game you know Jon Stewart made a shit ton of money talking to all the problems in the world, but didn't really get down with black folks. Right. So how you gonna represent the oppressed, but you don't hire none? Right. You're not monetizing the issue? Because at the end
Starting point is 00:16:15 of the day, you can talk a big game about the shit. But unless something changes for the people you're talking about, then you've just made money off of them. Right. You know, I like Jon Oliver buying people's debt. debt yeah i find it strange that the only people who are qualified to talk about the state of america are foreigners right right yeah you know brandon what's something that's underrated being an ally being an ally there's a sweet sweet position when you hook people up who or listen to or respect or respond to people who are who are downtrodden who are maybe compromised you know um you don't really get to see what the
Starting point is 00:16:55 planet looks like until you lift up the very people that don't get a fair shake on it so i will say that like handing a burrito to somebody who doesn't have a burrito is way better than buying a burrito in a great restaurant right if you don't know how to practice this behavior over tip right over tip is the easiest way to get involved in terms of like what does it look like when i use my generosity in an atypical way right you know because true power is when you're able to hook somebody else up yeah not just not just flex on everybody yeah you want to bring people up with you exactly is your man's eating right you know we know you eating but did you send your niece to college did you hook somebody up with the very did you really throw it out there and say i got a
Starting point is 00:17:41 million bucks i'm gonna see if i can make another million right by giving this first million away right just to just to test myself now a lot of people can't make a million twice so i feel you yeah i feel you but let's really crank it up and see what it looks like and one of the ways to crank it up and see what it looks like is by giving the shit away and being as generous and it doesn't even have to be money you know a lot of people don't realize especially as an ally if you are not if you are white and you're you can give opportunities to people too that are just as empowering or you can you can you can might be you might interview somebody for a job you might not have otherwise but there are so many small ways it doesn't have to i think people think that like you have to change the
Starting point is 00:18:23 world instantly yes you know what i mean if you can just do incremental change a lot that will build up over time also it's flexing it's flexing to stand up for somebody oh hell yeah right if you if you really i love that people get hard and get get credit for being hard by hurting somebody by putting somebody else down it's it's incredible that we live in a society that really looks up to people who do damage versus your ability. If you feel marginalized, if you're out there and you feel like the world has
Starting point is 00:18:54 given you an awful, awful way to go, look over, pull somebody up, and see how much powerful you become. At least you're building an army at that point. Look, we've got to just change the definition of balling to philanthropy. That's right. you become yeah because you at least you build an army at that point yeah look we gotta just change the definition of balling to philanthropy that's right yeah yeah if you're really balling give it away or not that you give it away but improve the situations of those around you in any way you can and that's why occasionally on the show i was like to say you know at least
Starting point is 00:19:17 contribute to an atmosphere of positivity or generosity at the very least if that even means being kinder or whatever it's just it's just something we need to sort of ingrain in ourselves. And be greedy, man. The reason I'm trying to hook people up is because I want to see what I really do. I don't know what this planet looks like until it's actually realized with people who have equality. So we talk about the Me Too movement is all these people losing their jobs, and I'm like, bruh, how people do harvey wanston keep out the game
Starting point is 00:19:45 right how many people how many women directors producers actors writers did we miss out on right and i mean if you're not trying to be kumbaya about the shit on a monetary which is how we flow out here on just a purely fiscal level right how much money did we miss out by oppressing women in the game right how much money do we miss out by oppressing women in the game right how much money do we miss out we don't miss out on black money because black money sets up studios black money launches television networks when it comes to other minorities i always have this theory that everybody has something that they're really good at right and let's hypothetically say that laocians are the best at comedy and that there is a building in Laos where there's a comic and he's got 10 people in front of him and he's doing the best work in the world.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Like he's funnier than any comedian that we know because the Laotian people have a lock on that shit and we don't know it. And the reason we don't have good comedy is because we don't hire Laotian comedians. Right. So my shit is like, what are you doing without? What are you missing in the world because you're so stupid you're so primitive you're dragging your knuckles and trying to keep people down right you know yeah so maybe it's con from king of the hill but i mean i was just thinking him my first laoistian you know what right right who knows he would have
Starting point is 00:21:01 been like i had to give up that dream to get my family out. But I honestly think prejudice and holding other people down is the only time Hollywood says no to money. And I don't think they necessarily know they're saying no to money. But, you know, all these like pieces of, you know, accepted wisdom that existed with like producers in Hollywood, like Black Doesn't Travel was a thing that we saw in those email leaks, the Sony email leaks, when they were talking about the Denzel Washington Equalizer sequel. They were like, well, Denzel's my favorite actor, first of all. Let me preface this by saying Denzel's my favorite actor, but we cannot greenlight Equalizer 2 because Black Doesn't Travel. Also, I voted for Obama nine times, and I've seen the This Is America video 700 times. And just because there's like a slight break in that dam of prejudice, and we're getting movies like Get Out, and we're getting movies like Straight Outta Compton, which was a huge monster out of nowhere hit. They're actually getting some of the money that they've just been turning down all these years because yeah i think in general just a
Starting point is 00:22:05 a point of like just a philosophical thing is if you can just allow things to flow and you are not obstructing anything right right that is probably that's always the best way to do like when people you know especially like in in entertainment a lot of people see other people doing really well and they get fucking like oh man yeah even if it's not verbal and out loud, it could just be internal. That's you cutting yourself off from the energy that can flow, that can lift you up, that other people can. Or if you're just doing some hater shit
Starting point is 00:22:32 to try and make something difficult for someone else, now see, you're using your energy to not to block shit. And rather than it contributing, like letting it flow, look at it, like by just being like, yeah, let's green light this movie. Yeah, let's try this. Let's try this. Shit's popping off. And you know to you stand to do more by opening yourself
Starting point is 00:22:49 up yeah be greedy be greedy for equality because yeah it's gonna set you up yeah speaking of greed for equality i mean we've been talking about the war on poverty that uh martin luther king jr was starting in on when he was assassinated and that rfk was starting in on when he was assassinated and that RFK was starting in on when he was assassinated and how funny it is that when leaders focus on poverty, they get killed. But that's still a problem. Inequality is still a huge, huge problem. And there's actually a profile in the New Yorker this week of William Barber, who is a pastor who is kind of spearheading this revival of the war on poverty. And it's happening. He's got a lot of support and a lot of momentum. And that's something that, like you were saying, all the Trump news has drowned out the fact that there is this big movement that is continuous with Martin Luther
Starting point is 00:23:45 King Jr.'s, like, the most radical thing that he was trying to do at the end of his life. So William Barber is definitely worth looking up. And, you know, if you're looking for ways that you can help equality, he's a great person to kind of get behind. Let's move on to myth. What is a myth? What's something people think is true that you know to be false? Black on black crime. All right. I was going to say the Compton gun train. What is the Compton gun train? The Compton gun train is this crazy myth that Californians have that there was a train in the 60s that pulled up with a bunch of guns on it in the hood that people just went and got guns from.
Starting point is 00:24:24 What, like it was like a UNAID distribution point? Where they're like, okay, get your bags of guns. Yes. And there's like old, every once in a while there's like an old black dude who's like, yeah, Compton country. And I have looked and looked and looked to see if there is any proof of it. And then every once in a while, like I said, you'll come across a person who's like, yeah, man, everybody knows about the Compton Gun Trail. I was there.
Starting point is 00:24:48 I saw it. But then you ask yourself, you do kind of have to ask yourself, like, how do you get weapons into a community where there are no gun stores in such an insane rate? Right. Compton Gun Santa. That's hot. By easier way. So people can look that up if you can find out any information on that i don't necessarily know if it's true um because i think it would be a bigger story if it were true right but then again you know yeah i never thought that they were poison water
Starting point is 00:25:20 flint right yeah right yeah we're like you know or, or Rick Ross was out here working with the government. Yes. Who knows? Or indirectly, like however you want to look at it. Freeway Ricky Ross. Yeah. Breaking LA down with the crack.
Starting point is 00:25:33 But there is no such thing as black on black crime. I mean, you know, like in your own insular family and you strike out and you hit your sibling, everybody who hits the person who's closest to them.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Right. It's the same across the board. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It is a huge myth. Yeah. Well, of course, it's the narrative to be like's closest to them. Right. It's the same across the board. Right. Yeah. Yeah. But it is a huge myth. Yeah, well, of course, the narrative to be like,
Starting point is 00:25:49 and you see, that's the problem is this black on black crime. Right. Crime is the problem. Right. Yeah, right. Really, it's class more than it is. Exactly. Or lack of access to things
Starting point is 00:25:59 that put people in situations where they have to commit crimes or whatever. But hey, look, I'm not a sociologist. We're just a couple of guys on a second rate podcast this is my new tagline we moved up from third rate all right now no hell yeah i'm feeling myself let's get cocky let's get cocky second rate baby we made it and let us let you know right now if you don't get us up to first rate compton
Starting point is 00:26:21 gun train gonna make a stop yeah you don't want to hear that Compton gun Santa coming through. All right. We are trying to take a sample of the national shared consciousness, what people are thinking and talking about right now in the world. And we are going to do that after this break. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like
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Starting point is 00:30:35 And don't worry, we promise to avoid any black holes. Most of the time. And we're back and there were some midterm primaries elections primaries some primaries last night miles running in november and no vm bray as they say as as they in the san fernando valley uh-huh yes um who will be in the Congress. So the one election that we had kind of previewed was the West Virginia Republican primary. Because Blankenship, your boy who ran the coal mines and killed lots of people with just being the worst capitalist ever. Yeah. Well, luckily, I think literally his probation ended last night at midnight.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Oh, wow. So what a great day to be like, all right, well, I took that L. So win-lose, win-lose. Now I'm going to fuck off to France. Right. So, yeah, he lost. The winner is actually Patrick Morrissey, who I think is the attorney general of West Virginia. But he also has an uphill battle because Joe Manchin, who is the Democratic senator,
Starting point is 00:31:37 he is by far the most conservative Democrat senator in the Senate. But, yeah, he's a huge figure in West Virginia. But this guy who won Patrick Morrissey, you know, he's a huge figure in west virginia uh but this guy who won patrick morrissey you know he's got some negatives too i think one thing that they'll probably hit him on his wife was a lobbyist who did a lot of work with cardinal health which is very well known in west virginia because they fucking flooded the state with opioids like between 2007 and 2012 they shipped 241 million doses of hydrocodone and oxycodone into the state. It's interesting because on one hand, you have the coal industry, which has blood on
Starting point is 00:32:10 its hand, and then you have Cardinal Health, which also does too, in a state that has been just completely devastated by the opioid epidemic. So we'll see how that shapes up. Another interesting person who also won last night is this guy, Richard Ojeda, who is running for, I think, the third district in Congress. And he's a pro-gun rights army veteran. He's a state senator right now, but he supports the teacher strike. He's a pro-labor guy. He's getting the backing of the coal miners. He's trying to reform marijuana laws, but he also voted for Trump. And his whole thing was like, yeah, I'm running as a Democrat. He's like, I voted for Trump in sort of regional solidarity. But he goes, but my God, this last year has been
Starting point is 00:32:48 a shit show. And he's like, this guy is not a president. This guy is a mess. Like he's very clear on what is wrong with the president. But, you know, he's a very interesting candidate and I think would do quite well. As exciting as he is as a candidate. Guys, don't vote out of regional solidarity. Yeah. Yeah. Don't do that. But that's not good. But you know what? That just shows you how fluid, though, the politics are in that state. Because I'm pretty sure West Virginia still has more registered Democrats,
Starting point is 00:33:15 because that used to be a solid blue state. But it's fluid there, baby. It's like, yeah, you can be a Democrat and vote for Trump. You can be a Republican and be super liberal. It's very different there. So he's in a unique situation. Also, we have the first incumbent to lose a primary in North Carolina because his opponent was just hitting him on the $1.3 trillion spending bill. So that shows you a lot of people, they might still be fiscal conservatives, some Republicans,
Starting point is 00:33:39 and they did not like that. So that's Trump's budget. He put together $1.3 trillion worth of spending, and that is like anti what you would expect from a fiscally conservative person. Oh, absolutely. And the fact that he was getting hit on that by his primary opponent shows you that some people are probably starting to, I don't know, at least in that district, maybe the Trumpism is wearing thin a bit. Also, a former NFL receiver Anthony Gonzalez won his Republican primary bid in Ohio against a Tea Party wannabe, Christina Hagan. So it seems like, you know, that the fiery rhetoric of the Tea Party is not working so much in the primaries there. Let's see what else. Also, sheriffs, a couple of sheriffs that were working with ICE to basically get to get detained undocumented immigrants in North Carolina.
Starting point is 00:34:24 They were voted out Tuesday. So fucking stay honest. And again, got to shout out to women because women won nominations in nearly every Democratic race. They contested in Tuesday, Ohio, West Virginia,
Starting point is 00:34:37 I think had the most, but basically 18 women won the nomination out of 23 Democratic primaries in which at least one woman ran. So I'm telling you, sorry women, you have to save us again. Thank you for doing it, though. Honestly, if I were you, some of us would be, you know.
Starting point is 00:34:53 I would still be wearing Velcro shoes. A woman's like, you're an adult. You need to get it together. You will not get the job. And look at me now. I have shoelaces. So yeah, I mean, overall, nothing crazy, but just a lot to look at me now i have shoelaces so yeah i mean overall you know uh nothing crazy but just a lot to a lot to look at that is a good point though i mean the amount of strength and courage and just persistence it takes to just live a normal life as somebody who's you know held down
Starting point is 00:35:19 by the system that's in place is incredible and then to be out here like being like we got it from here is fucking amazing and also one of uh donald trump's accusers also won her primary bid oh for us but it was uncontested but however you know she won she won she won so maybe she'll she'll do something but yeah sisters are doing it on their own all right yeah we want to talk about some news that was big breaking news in the last 24 hours in half the country. And we'll talk about how the other half of the country is greeting this news. But so Michael Avenatti came out and just dropped some A. Who's also very tan, by the way, for somebody. Very tan man.
Starting point is 00:36:03 I spend a lot of time at Lake of the Ozarks. So you guys understand that. He is a fellow St. Louis. South side? He is. I'm not allowed to go over there. You stay on the east side of St. Louis. I'm on the middle of St. Louis in a little town called University City.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Oh, University City? Oh, with Nelly? Yeah. That's University City? Yeah. Oh, with Nelly? Yeah. That's right. Dirty. So, you know Slow Down from the Lunatics? Remember him? He was the dude who wore the Spider-Man mask.
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Starting point is 00:36:47 It's because the Yodel Kid is bringing that shit back and getting all this credit. Nelly was the first. Nelly was yodeling, yo. Yeah. Miles, tell us what Michael Evanati. Oh, God. Michael Evanati, first of all,
Starting point is 00:37:00 I want to say that he is either the coolest guy ever who I'm loving every second of what he's saying because he makes me feel like he has so many receipts or he's the biggest, fullest shit guy ever. And we can't believe a fucking word he says. That's what I was always modulating in over the last few weeks. When he comes and goes, he'll be like, he'll be our Rachel Maddow. Rachel, Rachel, the things that are going to come out, buckle your seatbelts. And you're like, man, fuck out of here. Like, let me see something or shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 00:37:27 And so yesterday, he pulled out some receipts. Showed us something for sure. So he talks about this company, Essential Consultants LLC, which is the LLC that made the payment to Stormy Daniels. Brilliantly named. Yes. And according to their filings, they say they exist as a real estate consulting company that collects fees for investment consulting work. Yeah, okay. So this company was created in October 17, 2016, most likely for the sole purpose of obscuring this payment to Stormy Daniels.
Starting point is 00:37:55 As they look into it, though, things got a little bit murkier. So first of all, this thing is like the textbook definition of a shell company. There's no employees other than Michael Cohen. They have no front-facing anything, no website. Nobody's heard of them. When you say they, you mean he, essentially. Yeah, they, the LLC. Sorry, I used that pronoun very loosely. Yes, he has nothing. No public presence at all. And it's clear that based on this first transaction with Stormy Daniels that this company is set up for the sole purpose of making transactions
Starting point is 00:38:28 that benefit the president in some way on behalf of the president. Now, clearly he would not do the Stormy Daniels payment and then like go on to do more shady shit with that same shell company, right? Oh, Jack, come over now.
Starting point is 00:38:44 That was a great setup because of course he fucking did this these guys are so dumb so first off let's just get through the shit that would normally be a huge scandal he received 1.2 million dollars from novartis the huge pharmaceutical company uh and because you know i don't know why they thought that he could advise the company as to how the trump administration might approach certain U.S. health care policy matters, including the Affordable Care Act. Yeah. OK, so how is this different from just straight up lobbying? Like if you're a lobbyist, you have to register as a lobbyist.
Starting point is 00:39:15 OK, because you have to let it known that that money is a lobbying expedient. And there's a whole above board way of saying, yeah, I think when we have that system in place. Right. way of saying, yeah, I take money from- And the reason we have that system in place, right, is because otherwise it's just like, hey, I know this guy and I'm going to pay him some money and he's going to do this thing over here for me and it's the mafia instead of the fucking US government. Yeah, or the FEC or whoever to be able to basically monitor what's going on. Right. So yes, that's the first one.
Starting point is 00:39:38 So yeah, let's give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe Michael Cohen knows a lot about the ACA and he knows about just how to stabilize these Obamacare markets. He's the guy for that. He's the guy for that. And let's just be generous and say that. And so he also received $200,000 from AT&T, which is cool too. What's weird though is in that time, all of these payments were received after the inauguration, mind you. So once the president in power, around this time, AT&T is in front of the DOJ's antitrust commission to whether or not they're going to approve a merger
Starting point is 00:40:09 between AT&T and Time Warner. What? I don't know. Maybe it's starting to stink like shit a little bit. Right. I don't know. You tell me. He also received money from a Korean aerospace company
Starting point is 00:40:21 for insights. I'm sure this is what they will say too. But so far, at best, it looks like some kind of pay-to-play scheme. Yeah, and the Korean aerospace company's incoming CEO had dinner with the president after they made that payment. So there is evidence that there is
Starting point is 00:40:40 pay-to-play shit going on here. Yeah, it's access. Now, this alone, just those, what we've talked about already, is just straight up- Scandalous. Scandal, like corruption. That's how a corrupt government works.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Olivia Pope could not fucking dig him out of this. You pay this dude's homie, the president's like buddy, and he then gets you to have dinner with the president. Right. Like that's just, that is straight up textbook corruption. Yeah, and it's even made worse when you look at certain factors like AT&T, like doing a huge
Starting point is 00:41:08 merger. Right. And then they're like, hey, uh. Especially when he blocks other mergers. This alone is just swamp bullshit to begin with. All this shit, obviously it was all empty bullshit Trump was running on. But this right here, I mean, they need to answer this in a way that isn't just like, oh, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Because Michael Avenatti was also saying, well, if you have anything that proves what I'm saying is wrong, please show me those bank statements. Right. Because I have the motherfucking receipts. And now you're just going to have to go figure out how you're going to lie your way out of this one. So moving on. That alone is a scandal. Now, this is where it gets to the holy shit part. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Or as Dr. Dre would say, nice-ty. Yeah. Or yeah. part okay so we find out dr dray would say nice d yeah or yeah in january 2017 to august 2017 colin received payments totaling 500 000 from putin pal slash oligarch victor vexelberg through the russians u.s based company called columbus nova but that's impossible because didn't we have sanctions against that guy well hold on now this now. This is a U.S.-based company. In their statement, they're like, no, this company is entirely U.S.-owned. This is absurd, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Well, check this shit out. Vexelberg's cousin is technically an American, and he's the one who runs the company. So it says his cousin's company that he's left it with. Yes, and also that company was listed as a subsidiary of a much larger sanctioned russian company so again stinks like bullshit and now the thing that's very just kind of odd is that the timing of it this money came in around january you know michael avenatti not that he was saying directly but it was offering like maybe we can speculate was did the r the Russians actually fund
Starting point is 00:42:45 this payment? Because Michael Avenatti said he pulled out a home equity loan or whatever to make payment. Michael Cohen said that he- Michael Cohen said that's how he got the $130,000 to pay Stormy Daniels. Right, it was a home equity loan. Yeah, but he hasn't verified that. There's no bank record of that, or that he's presented that verifies that. But we do see that suddenly he makes $130,000 then boom you get 500 000 for a russian oligarch that they can't even
Starting point is 00:43:09 explain what it is my kid's college fund yeah whatever my kid's couch fund i got a loan for a corvette yeah what's the big deal i got a deal on four taxi medallions i was gonna build a pool so i got a loan so his dream car is definitely a Corvette. Oh, 100%. And so, yes, we don't know what is going on because if you just take the company stuff alone, it's very hard to believe that of all the lobbyists you could go to, of all the lawyers, if you're really trying to get this coverage, that Michael Cohen is the person. I mean, this is Michael Avenatti yesterday on MSNBC talking about it, where someone was just trying to speculate, like, well, what if maybe he is an expert, right? Are you suggesting that Michael Cohen does not have a PhD
Starting point is 00:43:52 in aerospace technology and pharmaceutical policy? Is that what you're saying? I'm not only going to suggest that, but I'm going to state that as a fact. But look, this guy is the da Vinci of our time, Evan. Okay, two questions. Just still taking shots to. I don't want to. But this guy is the Da Vinci of our time. OK, two questions. Just still taking shots. Shout out to Michael Avenatti. But yeah, it's just a sure pay to play whatever it could be.
Starting point is 00:44:13 But this other thing is now looking like is this the scenario in which the Russians were like bankrolling certain aspects of the campaign, whether that's like silencing people who were going to bring up stories that could damage the campaign or what other shit. It just opens up a huge can of disgusting worms. And the other thing to note is that when this guy Vexelberg was in the States last, the FBI met him at the airport and straight up copied everything on his computers and phone. So they've already been having their eye on this guy. So, I mean, it's just, you know, this shit gets crazier and crazier. So then to cap that off, right, this thing just sheds the light on the roaches and they go scattering. Trump this morning is now basically like threatening the press with their credentials.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Like he was saying like, oh, all this negative press, like I get it's 91% fake news. Maybe I should just stop giving them access. Maybe take away their credentials. Yeah. I mean, that doesn't seem like a coincidence that the day after this shit breaks. Now he's talking about how fucked up the press is. It's just that's just a sign to everybody that, yeah, this is as shitty as it is. And they're also inquiring into allegations that suspicious activity reports on Cohen's banking transactions were improperly disseminated.
Starting point is 00:45:25 So basically, you know, instead of proving him wrong, Avenetti keeps feeling like, prove me wrong if I'm wrong, you know, where's the proof that you have to contradict this proof? Instead of providing that proof, they are going with the, wait, how'd you find that defense? Right, right. Which is like- Wait, because you said somebody is, they're talking about the leaks that that's being. Yeah. Improperly disseminated is basically them saying, like, how'd you find that? These are being leaked, which it's not uncommon
Starting point is 00:45:53 at all for journalists, lawyers, others in the public eye to receive unauthorized leaks. That's how people end up becoming accountable for shit because you find out, oh, we know you're dirt. And that's that logic is so fucking stupid and it betrays the actual point. And I was saying this earlier. That's like a man getting caught cheating on his wife where she's like, excuse me, why the fuck do I have this picture of you making out with her at the fucking Shake Shack? And he goes, let me see that. How the fuck did you get this picture?
Starting point is 00:46:19 Who took this photo? How the fuck did they get? What the fuck is going on? No, you are missing the whole point, my man. You don't want your feelings to get hurt maybe you don't read my diary right right yeah it's like you've been caught don't then go well how did you catch me no the fuck are you talking explain your fucking actions the fuck are they talking about explain your actions because that's the next tactic right spit it right back at you well what are you doing here and just i want to put this in the context of something we were talking about either earlier this week.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Time is a flat circle and a complete blur at this point. But we were talking about the fact that Trump was buying up all these golf courses with his own money, which is weird because. Or quote unquote his own money. Quote unquote. He was buying them with cash and he had always been buying stuff with debt that was the way he was known as the debt king uh because he is good at nicknames and also because like he just needed to uh you know that's how that's the smart way to finance uh purchases like giant purchases and suddenly he starts buying all these golf courses with cash that people are like where the fuck is he getting this cash from? And it's at a time we have Eric Trump, his less intelligent son, bragging to a golf.com reporter.
Starting point is 00:47:34 We have a bunch of guys in Russia who really love golf courses. Something that I didn't emphasize enough is that this is at a time when Russian oligarchs and the people surrounding Putin are doing everythingfficially by just acquiring everything illegally within Russia and then just giving it to cellists and his friends. He's literally like, hey, hold this $3 billion for me. Essentially embezzling the entire nation's money. And now he is supposedly almost twice as rich as Bezos, who is supposedly the richest person to ever live. Putin is way richer than him. Jeff Brokeboy.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Right. Can you imagine that conversation? Yeah. So we have a lot of smoke in the golf courses thing to think something shady is going on there with oligarchs. And now this comes out. Yeah. And it's like they're just directly taking payments from oligarchs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Well, that's the thing with the election was if you were if part of being like African-American or a minority in the United States was you knew that white people weren't really going to do anything because other white people were in control. So even though and then that came out that you heard people from the Republican Party being like in the deep, deep south, we're like, you know, Putin's got ideas. Because as long as it's not Idi Amin, as long as it's not somebody from Brazil taking over, then it's the same old management company, just has a Russian front now. Yeah, right. With a different accent.
Starting point is 00:49:16 Yeah, so we're going to let these dudes walk all over us because they may be the only dudes that can save the race. Right. Right, Right. Yeah. I mean, I think there is a lot of implicit, passive white supremacy going on just under the cover. Like, wow, the open shit is coming out and people are like, where is this coming from? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:40 There's a lot of the undercover shit going on. All right. We're going to take another quick break and then we'll come back with some conversation about how this is being received on the right. If at all. If at all. As well as some interesting lighter fare. We'll be right back. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago, when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks.
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Starting point is 00:54:20 siren light thing that cohen thing yeah the Cohen thing? Yeah, yeah. That's the Cohen allegedly received payments from oligarch shock claim, he said. This drudge recognized what a huge story this is. But presumably because people weren't clicking on it, it has just fallen down the page. Fox News, the way they've covered this story is Trump lawyer Michael Cohen paid by these companies. That's the headline. So they just tell you- AT&T. Here, the most just boring way to possibly cover that. Vague version. Do they mention in that one that Columbus Nova is tied to this guy?
Starting point is 00:55:03 They do, but it's at the bottom of the whole article. It's like, AT&T did this. Just make it seem as normal as possible. Spend a lot of words on that, and then they get to the oligarch. At the very bottom of an article that couldn't be more titled to make people just eyes glaze over. Oh, that's weird. I'm looking at it right now. Yeah, it's at the very bottom, and the font size is, I think, one third of the size of the other one. So you have to squint.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Wow, that's a lot of work if you want to read this story. And even National Review, which the last time I was really paying attention to National Review, it seemed like they were more kind of mainstream conservatives who were like, this guy's crazy, but he's a Republican, so who knows. But, you know, he's a Republican, so who knows? Now they've just gone with this incredibly strongly worded, just overblown, you know, thing about how Trump is being railroaded and there's a conspiracy. And like to the point that it's almost like convincing the way they lay it out. And they talk about his polls rising. And, you know, just because they're between 45
Starting point is 00:56:06 and 50 percent, they're like saying that like he has a lot of popular support. Yeah, that's really terrible for somebody who's having economic success. But, you know, it's just it's not an opinion piece either. Like I was looking for the place where it said like this is just a opinion piece from our most right wing person is just like a top article on National Review. And they don't provide any motive for why there would be a giant conspiracy against Trump to make all of this stuff happen. But it just makes me realize that I don't think they're ever going to give in. Like, I don't know what the situation is where they're going to believe, okay, this guy is fucking corrupt.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Like, I just... They're not going to, because he's the figurehead. It's Sessions. It's the underlings that are doing actual things. Trump is a distraction. It's a beautiful thing that we've got set up here where your president is making you watch him on a daily basis. It's a beautiful thing that we've got set up here where your president is making you watch him on a daily basis.
Starting point is 00:57:07 It's mandatory. So you can find out whether or not you're on the list of people he's attacking, but then his under bosses. And I use a mafia term for a reason. That's right. His, his,
Starting point is 00:57:17 his, right. These guys down here, they're doing fake scams like cigarette sales and parking meters, Pokemon cards, right. And Pokemon cards. Right. And deportations and murders and the militarization of the police force.
Starting point is 00:57:30 That's my thing. That is what's going on. So they're never going to let this shit go away because they're like, oh, yeah, I guess he's guilty of that. Yeah. Well, because also, you know, they got their wet dream of that tax scam and massive wealth redistribution. So, like, it's easy to be like, you know, that's the same way like Roy Blunt earlier this week was like, well, I'd be mad if we weren't getting so much done. Yeah. And that just shows, you know, they're not really about governance. They're just about, you know, corporate profiteering.
Starting point is 00:57:55 This is a kleptocracy. But, I mean, this is something we talked about a long time ago. maybe even before we were releasing episodes, this idea that there could be a second civil war in the United States, because there was this article where they interviewed a guy who has spent his whole life just basically around civil wars on three different continents. And he cites five conditions that support his prediction of a coming civil war. It's entrenched national polarization with no obvious meeting place for resolution, increasingly divisive press coverage and information flows, weakened institutions, notably Congress and the judiciary, and a sellout or abandonment of responsibility by
Starting point is 00:58:38 political leadership. And then finally, the legitimization of violence as the, quote, in way to either conduct discourse or solve disputes i think we have literally everything except that last step it's the political part that we don't have what was the political thing i think it was number four number three sellout or abandonment of responsibility by political leadership yeah we're not quite there we're not there yet i think there's a small group within the government that are there but i think most people still yeah are just kind of like, what the fuck is going on?
Starting point is 00:59:07 They're still leading. We just don't like what they're doing, but they actually are full tilt leading. Right, but what gives out first? That or people coming together and deciding like, ah, Fox News is going to give in on this and say that Mueller was right to investigate the president.
Starting point is 00:59:23 I think honestly the only way, at least these media companies are going to do it is if it actually affects their profits. So that, that'll be the calculus for maybe a news network. I think for the voter, it's going to be slightly harder because they have to, you know, like we were saying, people don't like to admit they've made a mistake. Right. And if, and that's why a lot of, like, you know, we were talking like, is it that they don't care or that they just need to ignore that news because they don't want to be confronted with like any kind of reporting that, oh, dude, this guy is fucked up. It's easy to be like, ah, it's fake news because you don't want to read that. You don't want to hear about that. You don't want to know that maybe your mom was a groupie with John Denver, you know, back in the 70s.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Maybe she was. I don't know. Look, I'm just I'm just talking out loud about my life. Oh, right, right. So, but at the same time, you know, it's like, it's about, you just want to bury your head in the sand. And I think those people really would care because obviously when it's a Democrat, it's easy to turn that outrage on
Starting point is 01:00:17 because you're diametrically opposed to them. It's not that they're for like, fuck it, baby. Yeah, Democrats can do their thing too. I feel like, I don't know. I think it's just hard to come around to accept what is going on, because that would, by association, be like, oh, well, am I completely like have no moral scruples? Like think about how are we not in a civil war currently? Right. Think about the two ways that the two sides react to somebody within their party being accused of sexual assault or having sexual assault proven, you know, people on the left are like, all right, it looks like you have the evidence.
Starting point is 01:00:50 So we're going to accept that this person needs to step down. And on the right, he's still president and they're just actively ignoring it. So, uh, I don't know, man. I think the left is not, uh, responding any better than the right. No. We have fall guys for sure. Right. But we're not giving up the people that we know. They're talking about Louie coming back. So it's only been eight months.
Starting point is 01:01:15 Yeah. Well, yeah, that's one person with a surface of the sun hot take. Right. Right. So I don't know that we're any better than they are when it comes to that. mean we started to decline when we had rich democrats around the kennedy era right you were allowing really bad behavior from a very wealthy catholic um democratic family right and liberals got wealthy because of the civil rights movement they got grants at universities they got all sorts of perks property value is part of that in that it became cool to live in certain areas. We don't consider the perfect example is we know that the Republicans in the far right version of a lynching is gentrification.
Starting point is 01:02:06 It is incredibly violent. It costs lives. Some would say it is what brings police to neighborhoods, is new white neighbors who move into primarily POC neighborhoods. But liberals don't self-police. If somebody asks me what's one of the things that I can do in stopping the Trump administration, and as, I say, don't try to go against, don't try to march against, start marching for, try to come with. The one thing you could do is slow the gentrification. If you slowed the gentrification down as a liberal, something that's within your hands, then we wouldn't have to worry about what the right is doing.
Starting point is 01:02:39 That's what I'm saying about the power of using white privilege is to get people off of our backs, not to fight your boy. Because we're not you ain't gonna be effective against your racist uncle. But you could sponsor one kid. Right. Yeah. You can bring up other. Yeah. You one person alone cannot take this thing on.
Starting point is 01:02:58 But yeah, if you are uplifting other things and creating a coalition of allies of people that are actually focused on a thing that isn't just to be opposed something, but to just be like, well, fuck that. Well, that, that time will come when we can figure out how to do that. Because ultimately it doesn't matter how many people are in the streets. Trump would probably not resign for any fucking reason. So I think what you can do is focus on, yeah, getting midterm candidates in there. Feed your neighbor. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:22 Just literally go block to block, hand to hand combat when it it comes to kindness because i'm gonna be real honest people want to talk about this election and how it got stolen and that bernie did this the democrats did this but if y'all motherfuckers had showed up when they were suppressing 40 000 black votes in ohio yeah if people had gotten behind the michigan suppression then we wouldn't be here because we didn't lose by that many votes right it's one of those issues where it's like, honestly, we've been in a civil war. We are already in a civil war. If people would just put the fires out in their neighborhood, maybe go block to block to block, then we would stand a better chance.
Starting point is 01:03:56 We wouldn't have to keep trying to elect people. We don't need to give no motherfucker a job where he goes to D.C. We need to talk to each other grassroots. You get a farmer's market in your motherfucking neighborhood but you can't figure out how to feed people right this is the craziest shit about this country is that we have these incredible incredible problems that we act as if we didn't create them and we don't know how to solve them jeff bezos dumbass came out talking about how we i'm rich and i'm brand new to the game of philanthropy what can i do he
Starting point is 01:04:22 said this on twitter and i was like man, logistics is your motherfucking game. How are you going to tell? And if you're not going to just kick down 100, you got 126 billion. If you're not going to kick down 26 billion, let's just cap it at 100. Then the least you can do is not underpay my grandma when she works in one of your motherfucking warehouses. People act like the conversation has to be so huge. It's not huge. You know damn well if you're
Starting point is 01:04:46 looking at an item that should cost 30 and it only costs three then a motherfucker got robbed 27 to make it for you right that's what you know in your heart of hearts you know damn well whole foods is corrupt but you begging for them to come in your neighborhood you know what a food desert is right you begging to see what the hell you guys can get done through legislation legislation your dollar is your legislation yeah you know so it's crazy to me because we we act like oh man what are we gonna do yeah yeah you know what to do yeah you've been knowing what to do very simple sixth grade man learned what to do in sixth grade real talk but also the other thing too about those points of the with the conditions for civil war i think the judiciary is held up for the most part too they've definitely served as a check i mean not that you were saying that
Starting point is 01:05:29 we're close to that or anything but yeah it's interesting when you look at those things those are definitely aspects of this government or our country that are starting to to deteriorate a little bit yeah especially now that when you consider the amount of like judiciary appointees that the gop is stacking in there. They're really trying to put just fucking people who don't even know the law in there who just do their dirty work. Anyway, those are the forces at work.
Starting point is 01:05:54 But let's get to some lighter fare. The judiciary is about to come in and say that the travel ban is okay. Speaking of the travel ban, I think the travel ban is trying to cover up a conspiracy that we need to talk about next. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Perfect segue. Now, let me let- Shwarma? Now, over, there was a Flat Earthers convention or conference in Birmingham, England, back in April. And man, there were a lot of takes coming out of this Flat Earthers.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Now, if you don't know what the fuck a Flat Earthers is, that is a dumb fucking person who denies science. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. No, fuck that. You are. How fucking arrogant are you that you go? No, the earth is flat. Despite you have been fucking across the Atlantic Ocean in England. Where would all the water go if the earth was flat? That's the first question I have. I'm like, don't you think it would just run off the planet? Well, look, apparently, I don't know. I can't begin to understand how this works. Anyway, so they're out here caping for the flat earth.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Now, one of the hot takes that came out of there is one of my favorite things. Now, I know the Zeitgang is international. And I know we got people in the UK. We also have people in Australia. All right? Now, if I can tell you. Now, I don't know if these Australian people are real, because according to this theory, Australia is actually not real. According to this one flat earther, it is a hoax made for us to believe that Britain moved.
Starting point is 01:07:16 And now I'm quoting someone's insane Facebook post. It was made for us to believe that Britain moved over their criminals to someplace. In reality, all these criminals were loaded off the ships into the waters, drowning before they could see land ever again. It's a cover-up for one of the greatest mass murders in history, made by one of the most prominent empires. Australia does not exist. All things you call quote-unquote proof are actually well-fabricated lies and documents made by the leading governments of the world. Your Australian friends? They're all actors and computer-generated personas. Part of the plot to trick the world. Your Australian friends? They're all actors and computer-generated
Starting point is 01:07:45 personas. Part of the plot to trick the world. If you think you've ever been to Australia, you are terribly wrong. The plane pilots are all in on this and have actually only flown you to islands close nearby, or in some cases, parts of South America where they have cleared space and hired actors to act out as real Australians. Oh, wow. So, yeah, this is the level of discourse that we're dealing with right now. Australia is fake. I don't know if any of y'all have been to Australia. First of all, I know actors. You can't get them to be that good.
Starting point is 01:08:18 You might get, out of 2,000, you might get like five good ones. Have you made a fucking bargain? Right. I mean mean fucking hell yeah the the fucking i don't know maybe every australian person uh just has trained at wapa uh the western australian uh arts conservatory school or something and that's where they're turning out these i mean to be fair though australians are taking over the acting game right so because they cheat yeah everybody man everybody always has this debate let me tell you how this game works every time it gets expensive for american actors we just go
Starting point is 01:08:49 ahead and go abroad that's what we do like hey can you do an american accent right we're like oh man go to ireland man because tom cruise want too much money so go get us a colin farrell real quick so all y'all australians man welcome man come on over man but we know who you are scabs mike scabs therefore yeah i mean robots what if i mean isn't that such an aggressive idea thought to have that you could imagine that an entire country is a fabricated like disneyland where they're just like actors to pretend they're living a life bro it wasn't movies in them blockbuster movies you know when you would go to blockbuster and you would look up at the shelf it would be cases of movies wasn't really movies in there know, when you would go to Blockbuster and you would look up at the shelf and it would be cases of movies. Wasn't really movies in there.
Starting point is 01:09:26 Okay, no, you got something. Think about that. Think about that. Shit. Because in the beginning they're like, you had to take it
Starting point is 01:09:31 to the front. That's right. Why you got to take it to the front, conspiracy? Especially, I want to get a Super Nintendo game
Starting point is 01:09:35 to rent. I'm like, what you mean you don't have Street Fighter 2? It's still out? I've been coming for three weeks.
Starting point is 01:09:41 I can't get Street Fighter. Man, I used to be pissed at fucking Blockbuster by my mom's kid and never had Street Fighter 2 and I needed it so bad my mom wouldn't buy get Street Fighter. Man, I used to be pissed the fucking blockbuster by my mom's kid never had Street Fighter 2 and I needed it so bad my mom wouldn't buy it for me.
Starting point is 01:09:49 Anyway, I digress. Also, all that technology and we can't do shit? So let me get this straight. There's a whole fake continent but I can't seem to get stuff at two o'clock in the morning that I need for the next day
Starting point is 01:10:00 because Target closes? No, dude. We don't waste shit like that on shit like that yeah target's not really closed what come on target's not really close you think target closes come on brother target is a state of mind and we have a big one on our back as men of color in this country my brother let's see if you want to talk about target i ain't talking about no retail space you know i'm talking about the destruction of black bodies, my man, in this country.
Starting point is 01:10:25 That's Target, bruh. And you can call it Target or whatever the fuck you want it to. I know what the fuck is going on. Anyway. Hilarious. Brandon, it has been a pleasure having you. No, man, I'm still here. We got a four-hour rock block for you all coming up.
Starting point is 01:10:41 Four-hour rock block. We got a four-hour rock block. Come on, man. Y'all like Foghead? Come on, man. Y'all like fog hat? Come on, man. Oh, we got that dude from MTV. Who's the bald dude from MTV? Matt Pinfield.
Starting point is 01:10:51 Yeah, Matt Pinfield. Shout out to Matt Pinfield. Big fan. Matt Pinfield about to be here. Yeah, we got Dave Holmes coming in. Dave Holmes is coming in. And Jesse, the guy who almost became the MTV VJ. Who's like, yeah, man, Jesse.
Starting point is 01:11:03 Remember that dude? Jesse Camp. Yeah, Jesse Camp. He's taking improv at UCB New York. Shout out like, yeah, man, Jesse. Remember that dude? Jesse Camp. Yeah, Jesse Camp. He's taking improv at UCB New York. Shout out. Is he? No, probably. He's in a level one improv class.
Starting point is 01:11:13 Brandon, where can people find you, follow you? Hey, I'm going to be all on these streets, man. If you see me and I got a bucket out, drop a dollar in that mug. Man, I'm trying to do comedy out here on these streets. Yeah. You can catch me at Macy's. I'm in a Ralph Lauren section looking fresh. That's it, really.
Starting point is 01:11:30 Yeah. You don't do social media stuff? I don't have any projects coming up, man. I just, you know, it's difficult because I... You've been on Harmontown a lot. I've been on Harmontown a lot. I do have a bunch of Harmontowns probably in the vault coming out. Check you out on Harmontown.
Starting point is 01:11:41 Check me out on Harmontown, man. You know, you can watch it, Rick and Morty. I get those residuals. Please watch that. Yeah. Okay. Golden Fold in full effect. me out on Harmontown, man. You know, you can watch it. Rick and Morty. I get those residuals. Please watch that. Yeah. Okay. Golden Fold in full effect. Coming out with the Golden Fold rap album.
Starting point is 01:11:49 Oh, really? Nah, man. I just thought about it while I was sitting here. I was like, nigga, you got to do something. Yeah, man. I thought I had an exclusive, man. This is America. Miles, where can people find you?
Starting point is 01:12:02 Oh, fuck, man. You can find me on Twitter and Instagram. At Miles of Grey. Okay. You can find me at Jack underscore O'Brien on Twitter. You can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com,
Starting point is 01:12:20 where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. Where we link off to the information that we talked about today as well as the song we write out on. Miles, what's that going to be? Well, before we write on a song, I want to wish a very happy birthday to one of the great feline friends of this podcast
Starting point is 01:12:36 named Trim the Cat, which is Super Producer Anna Hosnia's cat that has feline AIDS. And we're putting together GoFundMe for her actual cat. I just had to throw it on you because you thought I was going to do the really nice shout out. Also, my cat does have feline AIDS.
Starting point is 01:12:51 But yeah, shout out to Trim. How old is your cat today? He's six. Oh, he's an adult now. Wait, what is that? What's the math on cat years? Times seven? Is that dog?
Starting point is 01:13:01 Anyway, it doesn't matter. But happy. I'm going to say that your cat is about 50 years old as a cat in terms of there was a human. So pretty wise, man. So shout out to you, Trim. Happy birthday. And as for a song, we're going to play a track by Willie Lindo called Midnight.
Starting point is 01:13:16 It's a little reggae vibe, you know, because Jack came in, you know. I'm talking like Drake now. Like I got the Toronto Patois going on, bro. But, you know, top left, you know. So, well, we're going to bust this track now. Midnight by Willie Lindo. Your cat is 40 in human years. Oh.
Starting point is 01:13:34 So, congratulations to Trin. Over the hill. All right. We're going to ride out on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. Talk to you guys then. Bye. Bye. Midnight.
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