The Daily Zeitgeist - OJ Oh No, Fyre Fest 2: This Time It’s For The Lols 02.27.25

Episode Date: February 27, 2025

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Alex Steeed! Oh, I'm a ghost! And your musical guest, the Cryptkeeper! Alex! Alex Steeed! Alex Steeed! I wish the Cryptkeeper were here. He'd make a delightful pun about corpses.

I wish the Cryptkeeper were here. I wish the Cryptkeeper were here. I wish the Cryptkeeper were here. I wish the Cryptkeeper were here. I wish the Cryptkeeper were here. I wish the Cryptkeeper were here. I wish the Cryptkeeper were here. I wish the Cryptkeeper were here.

I wish the Cryptkeeper were here. I wish the Cryptkeeper were here. I wish the Cryptkeeper were here. I wish the Cryptkeeper were here. I wish the Cryptkeeper were here. I wish the Cryptkeeper were here. He'd make a delightful pun about corpses. Two spookiest voices from the opposite ends of the spectrum. The Cryptkeeper and the guy who introduces Saturday Night Live. Can you imagine a buddy cop comedy with those two? Oh no. Oh my God.

I'm in. Yeah, if that guy doesn't look like a ghost, then my preconceived notions are way off. I can't picture what he looks like. Yeah, I have no idea. I don't think I've ever seen that man. Well, it was Errol Hammond at the 50th. I think this guy, this announcer that we're talking about is dead now. Yeah.

Long dead, long dead. The guy, Don Pardo. Don Pardo. Hey, Don Pardo. Thank you so much. He looks, he, and he looks straight out of fucking. Don Pardo. Don Pardo.

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Hello the internet and welcome to season 377 episode 4 of Dirt Eyelids, hey guys! The production of iHeartRadio, this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and it is Thursday, February 27th, 2025. Yes, it's a national... What? Is that the last one? No, there's one more, right? One more day, one more day, one more day. Four clean weeks. Then it's time for the vibes of March. National Small Dog Day, Pokemon Day, I don't even know if it's fucking Pokemon Day, and Nazmia Awareness Day, I don't know what that is, National Retro Day, National Toast Day,

damn, there's so many motherfucking, National Chili Day, National Polar Bear Day, National Strawberry Day, National Kaluah Day. So, get it in. Got so many people celebrating. Oh, I see, I see, I see. This is a condition where you can, loss of smell. That's what that is.

Oh, I have an aunt who lost her smell. And the family narrative around it was always that she, that my grandma left her next to like rotting meat. And it wasn't until later in life that I was like, that can't be the reason she lost her smell. What is it? That certainly can't be that. What is it? She was left by a pile of feted meats.

Yeah. And surely lost her sense of smell. Okay. Anyways, shout out to Pokemon and small dogs. I stopped listening at that point because I started trying to figure out Pokemon are small dogs in many ways, or large dogs. Anyways, my name's Jack O'Brien, AKA Jack Mostly Non-Newtonian Fluids O'Brien, courtesy of the beating drum on the Discord.

I have been referring to non-Newtonian fluids, maybe too much. And I was like, am I doing it incorrectly? I think, I think I've been getting it right though. Uh, they are after a quick Wikipedia, they are fluids that don't follow Newton's law of viscosity. So like they change their viscosity based on whether they're under stress. So like ketchup becomes runnier when shaken and is thus a non-Newtonian fluid. But the other examples are custard, toothpaste,

paint and blood. So I am in fact mostly non-Newtonian fluids. Because you're made of custard. Little weird fact to me. I am mostly toothpaste and custard on the inside My blood type is ketchup. My blood type is mmm ketchup Sweet and come also I did have to look it up that Wikipedia doesn't is it Wikipedia doesn't say whether or not It is a non-Newtonian fluid, but it is Did some work in the lab and Immediately after what? Ran a few experiments. Ran, did some work in the lab. And immediately after it comes out. I'm looking at all my non-Newtonian fluid experiments.

It's fucking three more minutes. Anyways, that's me. I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. It's Miles Gray AKA. One, receive the email I sent you. Two, list all the things you do. Three, make it plain to see that your loyalty is all for me. And four, make sure you listen to me.

Five, make you work for me. If ever you feel like Musk is really done, we will go right back to one. And another email making you make the thing or else you will get fired. And then I will, but this time I'm serious. You will get fired. Listen to me, not the people you were. Anyway, shout out to Peanut Buddy Brown for that Brian McKnight inspired AKA. It's been a while since I've been able to see something. He's just a good manager. Yeah. Someone hit me with Anytime. I want a Brian McKnight Anytime, AKA.

It's a great melody. That song. Ooh, man, broke my 12 year old heart. I learned how to play that on piano. Just thinking about a girl I vaguely had a crush on, but like, acting, you know, trying to get the feels, trying to hype myself up. Yeah. Because all I listened to, all my parents listened to was some fucking soft rock shit

for a lot of the time. So like, any time a good one came on, I'd be like, oh yeah, let me get a good person to think about. That is such wild pump up music. Strong feelings for a second. Miles was thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of our favorite guests, a very talented zine maker and podcast host.

One of the hosts of You Are Good, a feelings podcast about movies. It's Alex Steele. Hello. I felt that same way about KC and JoJo's All My Life. I felt the same way. And then forever I was like, I think that this song is supposed to be romantic, but it sounds like it's to a family member. And I only recently found out it is a song that they wrote for one of their daughters.

So I was wrong to be having the thoughts I was having when I heard that song. Yeah. Oh, and you are kidding. But I'm saying, the first line is, I will never find another lover. I think that they were confused about who the song was to. It seems like they pivoted somewhere in the middle of the song. You can see the drift a lot of times.

I've been re-listening to Blonde with the lyrics on, and the lyrics in that album are fucking incredible. But they drift from subject to subject. It's like a daydream from one subject to the other. Any attempt to be like, this is about one thing is like, nope, it is not. It is. Yeah.

Yeah. Cause maybe it's must be Jojo because I think Casey is the one singing in the beginning. I will never find another lover. He's like, wait, we're not singing about somebody that we fuck. Yeah. No, man. He's like, it's my daughter.

Dude. Yeah. Cause they were always calling each other dude. I promise to never fall in love with a stranger. You're all I'm thinking love. I praise the Lord above. I said, maybe you love. I cherish every hug and I really love you.

Like that feels like something to your daughter. I always put that on every mixtape. Every mixtape. Yeah. Yeah. Someone's getting that song. It's just Green Day's Dookie, but it kicks off with that song. No, it was always that hum stars.

Certainly like the masturbating song from Dookie. Yeah, it was a real predictable. Holy shit. Oh, that's so funny. Selecta, as they say. That's right. A real predictable Selecta. Yeah.

Shout out to Radigan. Radigan. Radigan has taken over the parts of this podcast that we don't record for you guys, but we have spent a lot of the time just watching David Radhagan. Is that right? David? Yeah. David Radhagan clips and the sound clashes.

I'm telling you these sound clashes in the West Indies and he's out there with his tucked in polo, just killing it, killing the sound. It gets more interesting. The more times I watch the clip, I'm like, wow. Yeah. Every Rastaman. What a fucking poetry. Yeah, this white dude from England is telling all the Rastaman to get their hands up.

You're like, hell yeah. All right, bro. This is some weird shit. Rad day down. Alex, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about later on. Jeff Bezos has found a way to plumbing new depths of making The Washington Post worse. Yeah. That's his passion.

That's his creative project. How do I make this paper suck shit? So he's, he's doing that. Uh, we'll, we'll talk about that. We'll talk about Tropicana OJ, absolute fucking staple of my childhood. And it is apparently on its last legs. Oh yeah. It's not, it's not looking good for Tropicana OJ. So we'll talk about why that is.

We'll talk about fire fest too. Yes. It's back. Thank God. I'm pretty fine. I love cycles. You thought that we were only bringing Trump, running it back with Trump as like bad things from 2016 to 2020 that we're bringing back?

Nope. Nope. David Bowie's dying again. David Bowie's dying again. We're making hillbilly elegy. Not even a sequel, just a reboot with new actors. Anyways, we'll talk about Fire Festival 2. We might even talk about GameStop being evil. All of that, plenty more.

But first, Alex, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? I was just looking up. I mean, I'm so sorry to start so grimly, but we found out that you're a very good search We do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? I was just looking up, I mean, this is, I'm so sorry to start so grimly, but we found out within the hour that Michelle Trachenberg passed. Yeah. Sadly. And so I was just looking, reviewing her filmography because I mean, she's a person who I started

watching on TV with on the adventures of Pete and Pete circa 1993 and as a person who has just always been on television is around my same age and Every time you see her in something you're like we are in for a good time She plays evil Georgina in a gossip girl just like always Unhinged in the most like tremendous or heartwarming way. So I was looking up what she. Buffy's sister or. Buffy's sister, Dawn. Wasn't she like not biolus?

She's like a spirit, like a fake sister, right? Dawn. I think that there was a meandering. The film is kind of about found family. If you'll allow me this. Yes, yes, yes. It's kind of a crazy take, but in many ways it's about, you know, the, the family we find along the way, right?

Right. Right. Right. Right. Couldn't have said it better. I, you know, it's wild. I, Michelle was a high school classmate of mine. We were in the same high school class.

Yeah. We both, we both went to the same high school. Oh, yeah. So this, this was like flying through all my like high school friend texts threads this morning, I couldn't believe she's 39 and what they, I know she was dealing with like a lot of health issues and liver stuff. It sounds like. Yeah.

Yeah. Really, really sad. Just why, I mean, yeah, it's just, it's yeah. Yeah. It's you don't expect to see those kinds of things or it's just a little, it's when you like an Alex in the same way, when you see someone as like a contemporary and especially someone who's like a classmate, you're just like, damn, yeah, for sure.

Truly hang on by a thread. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. She's always the truly always the best. Like I knew you knew if you saw her name, like as you start naming something, you're like, even if this is shit, she is gonna fucking deliver. Right. Yeah.

I love it. Is it Trachtenberg or Trach? I think it's Trachtenberg. Trachtenberg. Well, RIP. What is something that you think, Alex, is underrated? I don't know if it's underrated because I don't know how it's being read. I know it's being read outside of the state of Maine, but how it's being read inside of the state of Maine is different. As I think, you know, I'm originally from the state of Maine and our governor of the state of Maine, Janet Mills,

did a little Trump clap back this week. And I think like it's being properly rated by anyone outside of the state of Maine. And I think people inside of the state of Maine have like weird sort of conflicted partisan feelings about it. But I just want to say that it should be better rated than it is that at least one governor had in Maine had the strength to push back against extreme government. And I mean, Trump really showed how strong he was by just picking on the woman in the room immediately to fucking be like, where are you at?

You're not going to comply? Yeah. Yeah. They're like, there's a lot of others. I think you're going to comply. I think you will. Yeah, well, I'll see you in court. She said, okay, we'll see you in court.

Yeah, okay, well, and that one really easy. Like it turned into like a weird fucking bingo hall argument so quickly from Trump. Last word off. Yeah. All right, asshole. trial. Like, trash word off. Yeah, yeah. All right, asshole. Yeah, yeah. Good luck with that shit. And it just makes it, like, puts me at a total loss for why everyone who disagrees with him

doesn't do it, because I know that obviously they're going to do some sort of, like, insane theatrical investigation or whatever in order to do it, but he just looks so silly when anyone says, nah, no. Yeah. Oh, well, cause she's like, we're going to, I think the line was like, well, we're going to comply with the federal. I was like, yeah, well, I, I, what I am though, we are the federal law. Yeah. I am the law.

All right, dude. Famous, famous. You can hear the Dane Pardo there. Don Pardo. Don Pardo. Don Pardo. Thank youardo. Don Pardo. Thank you so much for coming to my daughter's wedding. Yeah.

And so you're saying that in Maine people are mad because she angered Donald Trump. People I know who I like and respect, but maybe have different political opinions on it are kind of reading it like, why are we threatening our state funding by like taking on this fight? And it's like, well, we're doing it because government overreach is bad. In the end, it might be bad. Yeah. I think people there are, there are well-meaning people who see this because they don't see trans people as equal. Right. And don't realize that, you know, there are like what a handful of visibly or

sort of like identifiably trans people who play sports at this level in the first place. So this is just an entirely made up fight. They imagine that this is a silly thing to put state funding at risk for when in fact, it's like, yeah, you should push back against this in any form that it comes up. This is bad. I guess. Yeah. When you say like, I think we have different political views, yours, Alex being, I like to speak up against stuff and they're like, keep your head low, man. Hey, man, shut the fuck up. Yeah. I am allergic to keeping my head low. So yeah.

Yeah, welcome. Welcome. You would have done bad in World War I, but we're glad you're here now. Yeah. I have been told by snipers. Hey, no fuck these guys. Shit.

I have been told by snipers that I would not do well in the battlefield. Yeah. All right. What is, what's up that you think is overrated? We've probably covered this in one way or another, but like the Elon Rogan style of free speech, where it's just a cover for being terrible and racist and horrible while actual free speech is constantly incredibly under attack by this existing administration. Yeah.

Right. Comedy is legal again. Yeah. administration. Yeah. Comedy is legal again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Free speech as long as it's me being able to say something stupid and not you being able to say something honest like that is. I hope that everything we're watching right now drives a nail in that coffin. You would think so.

It feels like they are doing a fantastic job of driving the backlash. And the backlash does seem to be happening like at a grassroots level. But I also, the thing that seems weird to me about the response is really like the media, just like not really being able to mount any sort of criticism or like, just like talk about the truth. They're just like been so thoroughly beaten at their like both sides. They've done a great job of doing they've really perfected it the last 10 years or so true. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that is yeah,

that seems to be and I think there's also this extremely online tendency where people who have like, I feel like decent takes that I agree with, imagine that like everybody in the population receives information in the same exact way. And some people make evil decisions with that information and other people make inherently just and good decisions with that information. And like the reality is in good decisions with that information and like the reality is like we just have no idea what the other people around us are getting by way of a narrative by way of like either social media or sort of like what news is given to them we just have terrifyingly little idea about what other people are experiencing by way of

their reality yeah but yeah I like to think that, uh, some people are pushing back. I've been going to those Tesla protests. Those have been fun. Hmm. Yeah. And the ones in Europe, you mean? No, there's a bunch here. There's been a bunch here where people will go in front of, uh, I think there's

a website related to it called Tesla takedown. Alex winter has been really sort of promoting these. And if you go to the, uh, showrooms and stand outside with signs that say, Elon's kids disowned him for a reason, such as my sign says, and you make it awkward for people to have to go into the Tesla dealership. Who is still going into Tesla dealership? I mean, I guess people who are happy that comedy is legal. Right. I mean, it's like the same thing.

Like, they're kind of, it's like the pro-lifer playbook. Oh, that comedy is legal. Right. I mean, it's like the same thing. Like they're kind of it's like the pro lifer playbook. Or though. Yeah, for sure. If we're just out in front of Planned Parenthood, like it'll just make it uncomfortable. Not to say like they're like, how dare they? But I mean, it's the sort of same logic you're using is to make it uncomfortable for a person to enter this physical bill. Well, the idea is to rather than just use it as awareness, which it does and is great. And so there's always a nice reception or whatever it's to like, it's to affect adversely the Tesla stock.

Yeah. Yeah. Which is a huge part of his wealth. Right. Yeah. Huh. Yeah. But free speech currently defined as being able to make fun of the powerless and punch

down and not excluding being able to make fun of the powerless and punch down and not excluding being able to make fun of the powerful. And that's the free speech that we really need to protect in this country. Free speech is everybody shut the fuck up and only whatever I say, just agree with it. Yes. Okay. Precisely. I'm a big fan. There's an organization called the Free Speech Coalition, which fights a lot of court cases against pornography, which are specifically important because typically being able to

broadly define anything as pornography as a way of censoring speech, especially queer speech, that is like a huge tactic by the right. So I am a huge supporter of this group called the Free Speech Coalition, which fights these battles at the court level. They were at the Supreme Court last month doing one of these age verification fights. So I think that that's an important... But yeah, whatever... Jack, you said it so perfectly.

I haven't heard it said that way, but it's like, yeah, this brand of free speech where you're allowed to punch down, but anyone who calls up punching up is somehow Should be arrested. Don't yes that yeah I'm it's not being said in the mainstream media, but I feel like it has to have been said behind Closed doors like it has to be like the okay. This is the subtext of project 2025, right? This is it just can't we need to make people feel empowered about making fun of unhoused people. Right.

And then also somehow get, make them okay with us using our immense power to come down on anybody who says anything mean about us. Right. And so, yeah, don't ever say anything that will even fucking give me a shred of self-awareness, don't even fucking try that shit. That's hate speech. The doubling, the doubling down on I can't believe as like a person who was like a young punk is saying this, but I just like can't believe how the present politic right now is just like a tripling or quadrupling down on fighting kindness. Right. It's so weird.

To just be like, we have the right to be unkind. It's like, fuck off. As a, as a young punk. And I mean that as like an older person calling you a young punk, as a young punk. Do you feel like we lost some of the battle, half the battle when selling out stopped being a thing that anyone gave a shit about? It was just like, no, get your bag, I guess. I, yeah.

I mean, that feels like, I, I, I absolutely serious. I, it felt like when, when it was okay to have like sacred songs and car commercials was really where maybe the plot was lost. We stopped being mad at bands for selling out and now look at us. Look at us now. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. Hey y'all, it's your girl, Cheeky's and I'm back with a brand new season of your favorite

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Oh no, wait, he's doing the thing that we were just talking about. Uh, Jeff Bezos, bend your knees. A, a standoffish, uh, what did he, low touch owner of the Washington post? He's just, he's not here to make anybody do anything. Uh, yeah, he called himself a hands-off owner when he first purchased the Washington post. Uh, he just emailed his staff, informing them that the Washington post opinion section will soon change and focus on the quote support

and defense of two pillars, personal liberties and free markets. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, he did stop short of suggesting that the Washington fence of two pillars, personal liberties and free markets. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. He did stop short of suggesting that there would be more articles about why baldness is hot and how holding your urine during 12 hour shifts is good for your ab builds, ab muscles. It's a great core exercise. Good core. Uh, but it's, I think we'll probably get there. He probably didn't need to say those.

But these are personal liberties, which they will define as me being able to do whatever the fuck I want as an incredibly wealthy person and free markets. Wow. He's not even subtle about this. It's like, I mean, I guess, you know, that's where people should continue to realize that this corporate media is absolutely an unreliable narrator for anything happening in your life when they're like, fucking stop talking about this. This this

letter goes on quote, we'll cover other topics too, of course, but viewpoints opposing those pillars will be left to be published by others. There was a time when a newspaper, especially one that was a local monopoly, might have seen it as a service to bring to the reader's doorstep every morning a broad based opinion section that sought to cover all views. Today, the internet does that job. And the internet is nailing it. Thank you. The internet.

Yeah. Crushing it. No notes. No notes. The internet. Yeah. I mean, I will say, I feel like the Washington post and the New York times have been not doing a great job for a while now.

So like, this is not to be like, look what we've lost that, you know, the, I used to go to the Washington post opinion section, but it does feel like we're losing something, right? Like it feels, it feels weird. Like I said, up top, like just the complete absence of any coherent criticism. It feels a little bit like, is this really, really happening? You know, like, because nobody, nobody's like saying it outright. They're not saying like the federal government has fallen to Elon Musk, you know, like podcasts are saying that, but like the, yeah, the New York Times,

Washington Post are not saying that. Yeah. They're still treating it like, Oh, look at this curious case of fuckery in DC rather than they'll call it like a management style. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Which is like such an interesting. I mean, it's like it feels almost cliche to talk about like how Orwellian some of this stuff is. Yeah. Yeah. They'll like talk about a literal prolonged coup attempt as like a clash in management style. And you're like, what the fuck are we doing? It was hands on.

Yes. But yeah, the, yeah, in this seven part series, uh, we will use the Meyers-Briggs test to analyze Trump's, uh, Pecadillo's as a manager. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think this is more just like one of those things you tell like Lib people in your, like the Libs in your life to be like, see, even Bazel, you can't even trust your, your Washington Post now. Like they're all in on just basically completely, you know, creating or manufacturing consent for whatever they're going to do in DC. So he can, so he can sit on his little coins. I feel like we just don't make fun of Jeff Bezos enough. I feel like we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just completely, you know, creating or manufacturing consent for whatever they're going to do in DC.

So he can so he can sit on his little coins. I feel like we just don't make fun of Jeff Bezos enough. Like, how the fuck is this guy still walking around in these dumbass tight silk shirts and shit looking like a walking midlife crisis? And people are just like, yeah, looking like Lex Luthor. Like, yeah, all of these guys are our Lex Luthor. Like all of these guys are Lex Luthor and somehow are just like physically actually manifesting the role, which is wild. You think he like presses out like some fucking chest presses and looks in the mirror, he's like, yeah, what's up? I'm sex Luthor.

Oh yeah. I'm sex Luthor. Yeah. Have you seen sex Luthor? That's his screen name. That's his American psycho moment he does. He's just like fucking in the mirror, he's like, you're sex Luther, Jeff. I bet he fucks so weird. Oh yeah.

I don't wanna know about it. It is so interesting. Like I do, I've always been a big believer in like the power of films as like the dreams of, uh, you know, of a society, like you, they are manifesting, you know, our culture is manifesting like various things and it's so weird that, yeah, we like got like the Superman myth got so specific and like nailed so many details of this fucking guy. There's just like, he's going to be bald and like weird and probably try and get

muscular at some point. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, not great. Yeah. I don't like it.

I don't like it. So this piece of news we're giving one star out of four. I have a big, like, I'm really like, I've been trying because some people listen to what I say for some reason to just like, when people feel powerless, like encourage them to do something and I feel like even small things like subscribing to indie media or like journalists who are doing the real job. I think that that's all great and it's important and I so strongly encourage it. But even then you think about the fact that like now that reporting is just.

Is to, you know, to use it now expires, Logan, like Balkanized. It's like every there's just like little clusters of reporting over here and over here and over here. And the fact that there isn't any reliable place, even though these places weren't even like really reliable in the first place, sort of assembling those narratives in a place where like people are more likely to see them than not. Yeah. Yeah.

Again, I don't like it. Not good. Yeah. It really, I mean, it's also, I think because a lot of people had for so long put their faith in the big D democratic version of things and the mainstream media and had spent a lot of faith on that. This is going to be painful and further demoralizing to people who were still in that place of being like, Joe Biden's going to get elected. He's, he's fine. Yeah.

Kamala Harris, you know, it's all depends on our big institutions. How you look at it though, but because you could say for decades, the media has failed, like the LGBTQ community, people of color, disabled people, like this, they were always doing this shit. But now like, as they strike off more and more groups that they're like, well, we're not going to talk about this shit. We're not going to talk about this shit. We're now it's like, off more and more groups that they're like, well, we're not gonna talk about this shit. We're not gonna talk about this shit. We're now it's like we're getting up higher

where it's like, you're not gonna talk about this anymore. Yeah, we've been whittling away like at this kind of coverage to again, obscure for American people just how terrible the ills that many of us face are with actual journalism and those journalists who do it credit to them because it is happening. But to your point, Alex, it's not happening

in a centralized place or a place that's mainstream enough where people can connect the dots because again, we all understand what's at stake here for people like Jeff Bezos. They don't want people that fully connect the dots, obviously. So it's better to just do this kind of shit. And hopefully again, that's what I'm saying. Like this is for like probably well-to-do white liberal people who are still believing,

like, in The Washington Post or New York Times. They're like, y'all, come on now. Yeah, we're done. I will say I will say a thing that has changed is my this happened this morning is my mother will text me. And she'll be like, I saw this news story. Does this come from a reputable source? Or I saw, I want the Democrats to get in charge. Who should I give money to? Should I give it to like the larger sort of Senate organization?

Should I give it to directly to people? And she, I know that this is not necessarily common, but it is really nice to see someone who's born in the 50s, not just like accept the whole thing and go, yeah, I realize that things are changing. I don't know how to act accordingly. Can you like point me in a direction? Yeah. Cause there is something I think that just does feel in it in your bones wrong.

And like, even then, even if you are like a solid boomer who again comes from the air of like, but it was on the TV. Of course. You know what I mean? And to that point, yeah, I mean, it is, there's, I think people, again, people are feeling it, but yeah, hopefully more people can really. Put it all together. The fraud is so pervasive at every single level. You know, it's like the president is basically there thanks to fraud and people are, you know, our text messages that we get on a daily basis are like

50% attempts at fraud and it's like, you know, it's are, you know, our text messages that we get on a daily basis are like 50% attempts at fraud and, you know, the calls that you get are like 50% scam likely. Most of your email inbox has been taken over. That's me trying to communicate with you. Yeah. No, I, let's try asshole. All right.

I mean, okay. Then please stop talking about exciting business opportunities in every subject. Well, Jack, you have it just so you know, you haven't paid your express lane toll that you violated five days now. And I'm just trying to help you out. Jack, you don't even face a bigger express lane. We've been trying to deliver this package for quite some time.

Thank you. That's right. So I feel like it's getting so thoroughly broken that it makes sense to me that more and more people are just going to be like, all right. Well, now I can't trust fucking anything. Okay. I've had to like talk to some elderly family members about like, no, you can't click on that, like that's actually not helping clean

your phone. That's going to be, yeah, that's what we need to get you a new one now. That shit scares me where it's like, especially with like deep fake voices that can call with the voice of a family member. I mean, it is, I have set up a system with like people I know and love that we like write down and don't text it back and forth. We write down the code word we would say to prove who we are in case we get one of those distressing calls. And what is the code word?

Just spell it out. Oh, no, I'll try to spell it out. I thought you were going to say it because you're like, the code word. I was like, Wheeler's steel. Yeah, it is. It is so pervasive that it's like, you know, you're lucky if I, 5% of your inbound communication is like authentic. Yes, exactly.

All right. Well, speaking of authentic, I want to go back to a foundational brand in my childhood that is it's in trouble. Yeah. And, uh, for the low price of a cup of coffee, you can help. They should start doing like those, you know, PSA like ads that tug at your heartstrings, but for corporations who are having a difficult time. Yeah.

But, uh, yeah, there's a lot of reporting going on that get Tropicana OJ is, and is headed for a tough place as financial. Yeah. Yeah, the revenues apparently are falling. And then recently the PAI partners, the European private equity firm, that took a controlling ownership stake, like a few years ago from four years ago. They recently gave them 30 million in emergency and like a $30 million emergency loan to Tropicana. They said they were like a lender of $30 million. And they said, well, we're going to have to pay them back. How long ago was that? Four years ago. They recently gave them 30 million in emergency and like a $30 million emergency loan to Tropicana.

They said they were like a lender of last resort. So private equity is involved, but from what I can read and find, it seems like they were actually trying to make the brand profitable. They're like, oh, we can turn this brand up because like it's hard to see how it can be cannibalized from the inside when they are trying to throw

cash at the problem. They're like, fuck, fuck, fuck. What the fuck are we doing wrong? It can't just be that orange juice is now so hard to make because of climate change. And also people are much more conscious about sugar intake. I those can't be the things. But for example, like the things again, because you'll always read these things. Sometimes they'll just blame, like, you know, consumers are less interested. And they are they are saying that.

But I believe the reasons that they're saying why consumers are less interested, like the sugar intake, people are much more conscious about like, you know, I need to be drinking like a bunch of sugar like all the time. I'll have a glass of juice on like the plane. And I'm like, we used to do this all the time. Yeah like all the time. I'll have a glass of juice. I'm like the plane and I'm like, we used to do this all the time. Yeah, all the time. I used to fucking pound minute made orange juice

out of a half gallon container that had added vitamin D. That's what my mom was like. Oh yeah, you can rock with that. It has added vitamin D. It is water with vitamin in it. Like that is how I thought of Tropicat. I was like, why would I drink water when I can get healthier by drinking this thing that tastes like I just bit into an orange?

Yeah. It's really crazy how different it's like, how different 30 years ago was, where you're like, our parents were told there was one vitamin in it. And they're like, that's much better. Go ahead. Destroy yourself with it. No, now it is viewed like you're letting your kids smoke, like letting your kids just drink juice freely is like it, we, so, uh, you know, I have a seven and eight year old and juice is doled out in tiny juice boxes, only at birthday parties, one at a time.

And the shit is like methadone juice where it's like stepped on with water. Like I've tasted it. It doesn't even taste like juice. It's like, yeah, it's they have watered that shit down like as a favor to us because the juice is so bad. It's it is like letting your kids smoke. Is. Yeah, we were basically sniffing base, cocaine base, like in the juice form.

Like our day, we're like, yeah, bro, it's fucking straight to the dome. Half gallon in one day. Watch me. And it's funny because it's now seen as child abuse, like Jack said, but it's also like, you can get measles, that's fine. But you can't have too much juice. Is that honest juice? No. Then my child cannot drink it.

Get it away. Get it away. Now, my kids have a glass of orange juice as a treat. They are high for like three days. They're like, so why are they just like, yo, yeah. Like, yo, why don't you tell me about it? I don't know. Like, is this just LA?

Because I'm like surprised this hasn't just crashed out. More. No, I do. I am in, I like, I'm so sorry I keep talking about Maine, but I'm there quite often and like there, juice has fallen off across the country. Juice has fallen. We can't announce your juice has fallen, folks.

The other thing though too is prices, right? Cause again, oranges are very hard to harvest now. Like Hurricane Milton, this is one person who's like the head of the Florida Citrus Mutual Advocacy Group. It's a quote. It's Hurricane Milton? Oh, no, no, Matt Joyner said this. Hurricane Milton, head of the, right, said quote,

Hurricane Milton came across the center of the state and really impacted probably 70% of the most productive citrus acreage in Florida. And then it's not this article in the CNN goes on. It's like it's not just atmospheric disasters that have devastated the industry. Orange production in the U.S. has declined in recent years due to the spread of citrus greening disease, a bacterial infection that cuts off key nutrients to orange trees,

which first hit Florida 20 years ago. Add on top of that, Canada's making eyes at Brazil's orange juice market to cut the US out of it over all the tariff shit. And they're like, well, fuck it, bro. The Brazilian orange juice is cheaper. Like, man, why don't we just skip these fucking weirdos to the south of us, the US, not Brazilians,

and now take the Brazilian OJ, just retaliatory. So this, again, this is just all, it all comes together. And then the price, the price of orange juice has almost basically like doubled since 2020. Yeah. And so that now also on top of people being like, Damn, do I really want to drink all this shit? And now it's cost $4.50 for 12 ounce, a 12 ounce bottle of orange juice. Like, bro, I keep drinking a fucking malt liquor for cheaper. Water's free.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. I can have, man, I used to fuck with brass monkey, but not anymore. It isn't an absolute side note, but I, I am, I'm 40 plus. And so I'm trying to take care of my digestive stuff. And this relates to the breakfast aisle.

I tried to get anything with fiber in it and we as a country stopped that entirely, nothing has fiber and it all has added protein. Yeah. What are we doing? Yeah. Got to get swole. You got to get swole. Yeah.

Tim Ferriss, Tim Ferriss won basically with the four hour. Like, granola does not need added protein. Yeah. This is stupid. Yeah. No, for real. It's like, what the fuck? Like even like baby, like fruit pouches,

like baby food pouches, I'm seeing that shit like, hey, add it, load it with protein. It's like they turn every car into an F350 for some reason. And you're like, we don't, we just need to get from Blenane to Blenane. My child is not bulking right now. What the fuck are you doing, fool? Like, I just want some shit with like some fucking fiber. Like, what the fuck? But yeah, I mean, again, the other thing that

they point to also is that like when you go to like a smart and final or like cheaper grocery stores, especially in low income areas, people just aren't fucking with it just at all anymore. And that's a huge hit because something that used to be this like, I think when it was cheaper, it was easier. I'm like, yeah, fuck it. I'll get some orange juice. But now it's, it's expensive. It's also just too like, it think when it was cheaper, it was easier. I'm like, yeah, fuck it. I'll get some orange juice. But now it's, it's, it's expensive. It's also just too, like, it's not the healthiest, although that might not be everyone's calculus, it's, it's getting a little bit hard for them to peddle that. OJ.

So I remember like they, they used to be fucking ball. Like I remember there was this like business article I read in the 90s about how like the demand for Tropicana was like shooting through the roof so much that they had to like invent these giant like silos that were completely vacuum like there was no air able to get into them. And so they would like take the OJ from like the orange juice factory, put it in a completely airtight truck, put it in a completely airtight truck, take it to these silos that were like completely vacuum sealed. And then like, because there was no air there at all, you would not be able to like, like they wouldn't go

bad. And like, that's how they were able to like handle the quantities of orange juice that people were demanding from them. The only side effect of that, and I think this also might be part of the story. The only side effect of that is that when you keep orange juice vacuum sealed away for like three years, it loses all its flavor. And so they had to figure out a way to get the flavor to come back. So they had to like basically create a like orange perfuming tactic that like added the flavor, the scent of oranges into this like zombie orange juice that had been that is like years old, but still gets to be called like fresh

squeezed because of some fucking, you know, thing that they lobbied the FDA for. It's just a wild story that I'm sure, you know, thing that they lobbied the FDA for is just a wild story that I'm sure. You know, there's a noticeable drop in quality from like the orange juice that we were getting from Tropicana in the nineties, early nineties. And then we were sniffing base. We were sniffing straight up. Y'all would have died. Y'all would have died sniffing the shit.

I was still like, if there is like genuinely like fresh squeezed orange juice somewhere, like oranges with that, like you can see being squeezed. I will get that shit. And then she's like the greatest thing that I'm like, we shouldn't have it this good as humans. Like this shit is just too fucking good. We don't deserve this. And it's gone. Yeah. Uh, and, but like, yeah, compare that to the shit in Tropicana. I feel, I feel like. They also did the thing recently too, where like they, they shrunk the bottle to not raise prices.

And people were like, what the fuck are you doing? Like, well, you didn't want to raise prices. And they're like, you basically are you dumb fuck. You're giving, giving me less volume for the price. What do you think that is? But we tried to hide it. Isn't that better? All right.

That's on us. That's where I do see a bit of the private equity thinking creeping in. But again, I think they're just dealing with a product that is just waning in popularity. For sure. Yeah. Unless we find it, you know, Erawan, and then we will gladly pay $25 for 20 ounces of that. Is it crazy that place exists?

Is it, I feel like people outside of LA probably don't know about Aero One, but they probably do. Cause it's so like in mesh. I don't know, not that everyone, but it's so in mesh with celebrity culture that like it's any paparazzi photos, like so-and-so coming out of Aero One. Cause I see people that there's like, there's an Aero One in Studio City that I see people that are like, they're like, they, like so and so coming out of Arawan. Because I see people that there's like there's an Arawan in Studio City that I see people just hanging around to take photos at.

Like people I think are coming to Arawan's like there's even one by the Grove where people just want to fucking stunt in front of an Arawan. Don't go there, bro. I did. I did have someone. I had a friend here from Toronto and they wanted to stop by one for ourselves. Yeah. Our family, our, our family friends from Australia, their daughter was like, all right, I'm in LA. This is what I do. Take me to Arawan. And people are kicking it to try and see celebrities too. It's just like, again, it's just become like synonymous with all of that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess

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I guess this is like the scam episode because, uh, fire festival too is back, baby. Uh, fire festival is back. I, yeah, it, it does feel like a concerted effort to just be like, all right, everything 2016 to 2020 we're running it back. We did not like the pandemic. So we're just going to like try and relive everything from before that. And maybe, maybe it'll go back to that. Billy McFarland, fresh out of prison for doing Fire Festival One, is holding

Fire Festival Two from May 30th to June 2nd on the Mexican island of Isla Mujeres. And, uh, tickets just went on sale this week. So I, I don't, so here's, here's my conundrum. Miles, I don't want all of our listeners to turn off the podcast and go buy these tickets. Like we're going to see such a fall off in listenership at this moment. I know. But I do feel like it is our duty to report these incredible deals to you. Yeah. Tickets are available for as low as $1,400.

Great. Go on, say less. But yes, I know. So you're thinking, wow, low as $1,400. Great, go on, say less. Okay, but yes, I know. So you're thinking, wow, what a deal. How is that possible? There's also a $25,000 option.

Oh, thank God. Which includes two tickets and access to the fight pit. Oh, what is that? not some kind of clever name. That is literally just a fight. Wage workers fight to the death for your entertainment. I mean, MMA fighters who, you know, I didn't, I'm on the side because they're full time employees. I don't know how MMA contracts out, but entirely possible. Yeah.

You just watch them fight each other. Just straight up fucking squid game shit. It's like, what are, let's, let's do a squid game where people would pay for that. Yeah. Art, you, you also get artist access to the festival grounds. So, and we'll, we'll get into the artists in question in a second, uh, backstage access to the water stage, pit side access to the fight pit. A curated itinerary of fire experiences, Phoenix transportation throughout the

weekend, presumably just golf carts. You get golf carts and access to fire concierge. But all of that is so vague. I'm at the website right now. They say all these things, but I have, there's nothing explaining what it is. Nope. I don't know what the concierge is.

Did you guys listen to a friend of your show and friend of our show, Jamie Loftus's Haley Welch series? Hawk Tuah, yeah, I listened to, yeah, yeah. She did like a bonus part where she talks to like Ed Zitron, is it Zitron, is that his name? Yeah, yeah, yeah. About that whole phenomenon, and his take is basically like,

our entire economy is rug pulls now. Yeah. Like the entire economy is like, use the brand to sell enough stuff real quickly upfront before people accept that it's a scam. And even our like commitment to dark irony makes this thing a thing that people will, will do. And then they'll complain when it's essentially an obvious rug pull.

But I day by day, ever since I heard him say that I was like, Oh, fuck you're so right. Yeah. Everything's a rug full. Like the cyber truck thing about the cyber truck, like that whole thing. Oh, wait, what are you going with this? Where are you going with this? It's a fucking sick ass car, dude.

It's a well executed rug full. I would say like they did a good job. It saves me having to wear swastikas in public for people to know what my allegiance is. I know that's been a problem for you. I know your religion is swastika t-shirts. I'm a person of color and you're like, come on, you're doing it for shock value.

I'm like, well, I'm half Japanese. They were part of the axis. I'm just saying. Keeping my ass safe with a very specific population. Yeah. I think the main question on people's minds right now is how could those tickets be that cheap? And of course, you must be hiding from me a higher level of experience. And I, of course, am talking about the $1.1 million,

what's it called? Prometheus. Prometheus tier. Prometheus tier. Because, so first tier, Ignite, you're starting the fire. Next tier, Fuego. Dude, that's already, Jesus Christ. Next tier, Phoenix. It needs to be required to see your face say that

for someone to listen to it, because it's unsettling. Yeah, or just trying to get it. Dude, what do you mean I can't get back there? Dude, I got the Fuego Pass. I got the Fuego. Phoenix, so something bad has happened between Fuego and Phoenix, because they're now rising out of the ashes. You're doing all right, though. You're doing all right.

And now the god of keeping a fire alive, Prometheus, I don't know, man. I don't remember all that shit. The text on the website to try and get people into the Prometheus? I don't know, man. I don't remember all that shit. Dude, this is the text on the website to try and get people into the Prometheus Pass. This is what it says. The origin of the Prometheus Pass is shrouded in secrecy. Legend has it that it was inspired by the Titan Prometheus who defied the gods to gift humanity fire, F-Y-E-R. Oh my God.

A spark of creation and innovation. This pass is not for the faint of heart, nor is it for the casual attendee. It is for those who seek to rise above, who don't just want to witness history, but aspire to shape it because you are going to be universally called the dumbest fucking stupid motherfucker ever for buying this ticket. When you die in a helicopter crash, Because that is how you get around in this. A helicopter. Yeah. No, that reads the way that you read it. And just the copy reads like one of those title

story screams from Mortal Kombat 2. Right, right. Really awesome. Really cool. The best. Fatality. Maybe. When she can. Really awesome. Really cool. The best jammer. Fatality. Maybe. When Goro decided to bring together. What the fuck? Goro?

I was always like, there's so many words. I'm 10. I just want to see my heads get cut off. Whoa, Goro. Look how many arms he has, Dad. More lore. More lore. Is that Goro?

No, that's Motaro, Dad. He's more stronger than Goro. Oh, that's Motaro, dad. He's more stronger than Goro. Oh, that's so true. Before every game of NBA Jam, they do a cut scene. They're like, the power forward, Charles Barkley, did not license his name for this. Right. Thus we have... All right.

I just want to read the Prometheus here because you literally, I don't think you could pay me $1.1 million to do this, just keeping in mind. So the thing that the first fire festival is famous for is being a scam perpetrated by somebody who is not great with the details, not, not great attention to details. It's not great attention to details. And, uh, this would be four day access for eight people, fight team access to fight pit. So you get to hang out with the fighters with MMA fighters, which you get in the way of these fucking battle.

You get to do like what Mark Zuckerberg does, I guess, in the corner of MMA fighters and like pretend to hand things to people, Curated itinerary, and again, very vague. 24-7 private chauffeur service, access to private marina, private air charter flight from Miami, Florida to Cancun International Airport, followed by, and this is where I get a little nervous about putting my life in the hands of the planners of the fire festival, followed by private helicopter ride to Isla Mujeres. That shit is going down. Yeah, that's a Twilight Zone movie situation. Oh my God. Travel and accommodations assistance for fire concierge, three nights stay on yacht or villa.

I like that they can't commit to yacht. Yacht or villa or something. I don't know, man. Terms and conditions apply. Even to Prometheus, the god of fire, huh? Yeah. I'm a huge fan that they're just fundraising upfront on tickets.

Like they have no investors. They haven't even pulled the fucking, like they, people looked into the island. They asked like, so have they pulled any like permits? The Isla Mujeres government says that no permits have been requested for the festival as of yet. A festival that's happening in a few months. Well, I don't know, Jack, cause on the website, there are actual land, longitudinal, longitudinal and latitudinal coordinates that I'm looking at. Yeah. And when you go to those coordinates, uh, you are in the ocean.

You're they missed, they missed the island. Again, I'm just saying they don't have the best attention to detail, but maybe that's why they are not pulling the coordinates or the permits. There's no office here. There's no permit office here, boss. I went to where you said no permit office. Or for legal reasons, to be like, well, the coordinates actually never said explicitly on the physical land of Islam. We had this, you know, it's just offshore international water.

Like, are they doing international waters mentality? Like, dude, we can fucking do anything, man. Not a scam if it's international waters. It's true. So, uh, there are some signs that this event will be a disaster. I know I, you guys have been on board and hopefully you haven't bought your tickets yet, but I'm about to hit confirm purchase. So I guess I'll hear you out before I throw away 25 grand. So no musical acts have been announced for FireFest 2, which is ostensibly a music festival. That was

the whole idea in the first place was that this was a music festival. Now they did ask Billy McFarland and he claimed that he's already booked quote, some artists and has some others in mind. When asked if there were any A-list acts, he responded, I think of A-list as pretty subjective, but in my opinion, they're definitely A-list. And then close it out by also suggesting that he's not actually in charge of booking the talent. Oh, no. Just so many, just a fine concentrate of red flag. Like this is like you ask your kid if they've done their homework and they say,

I've done some of my homework. Done is a subjective term in the first place. Uh, it's actually not my job to do my homework anyways. And, uh, go fuck yourself. Yeah. Very, uh, very Trump on the debate stage. I have concepts of a plan that I'm working on. I mean, that motherfucker had some serious plans though.

So yeah, well, it's also interesting. There's nothing he wanted to tell us about. On the website, when you go again to like the fire experience subsection, the music, the word music is not even listed. It says water adventures, extreme sports, leisure and wellness, cultural and creative activities. But this is the progression. It started, it starts as a music festival.

It becomes infamous as a failure and now its brand is Infamous Failure. Infamous Failure Festival. You can sell the proximity to the Infamous Failure. Maybe if you go, you'll be on the next suite of documentaries about the failure of Firefest. Or if you're smart, I would just start putting together travel packages to be like, yo bro, I'll take you to go see the failure for way less money. Hell yeah. You could go peep that shit and guess what? They don't have permits. We could walk right in there. What the fuck are they doing? their travel packages to be like, yo bro, I'll take you to go see the failure for way less money.

You could go peep that shit and guess what? They don't have permits. We could walk right in there. What the fuck are they going to do? Great. If that's what y'all want. May I? Yeah. That, yeah.

Failure, capital, capitalism, failure, tourists, tourists, safari. Look at these fucking losers. Yeah, they're like, bro. They're like, yo, for $1,000, I had everything handled and I got to laugh at these people. That's even still a lot. I was going to suggest like, if it was the Trump equivalent where he was like, I have concepts of a plan, but then he does actually have a plan.

He's just like not willing to tell you what it is because it's so like evil and bad for everybody involved. The equivalent of that would be that each of these tiers is that you're actually buying a ticket to hunt the tier below you. So he like lets them loose on an island. And then like, obviously the Prometheus tier is hunting you from a helicopter. Right. So yeah, it's like that movie, Battle Royale, Battle Royale, that Japanese movie. It's like, well, if you got the, what is it? The spark ticket. Okay. The weapon y'all get is like a spatula and maybe a frying pan.

Yeah. And the team Fuego gets a police baton. Phoenix, y'all get 22 caliber little rifles. And if you got Prometheus, bro, we have we have this anti-tank munitions you can use. Just from a helicopter. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry, Ignite.

Should have grinded harder. Should have scammed harder. I also learned as I was just like, kind of taking a look back at Billy McFarlane, just marveling at this person's, this life. When you say that you're talking because Billy's behind you right now. Take a look back at him. Uh, just marveling.

His first venture was a content sharing app called Spling. Spling is such a dumb name for just anything. Uh, I have to, I have to respect it. Yeah. God, that description of, uh, the Prometheus tier and it's it's mythic mysterious origins really made me took a couple months off my Forged in the fires of Mount scam. Yeah, I mean, when it obvious when the obvious things happen, they're just going to refer to it as the Icarus tier. And it'll be great. Right. Oh my God. Again, I mean, like, you know, like- It's shocking they didn't name a tier Icarus because it's just like a thing that has to do with fire.

I can't believe they didn't just call it that because they, on some level, know this is bullshit. You can get the left eye Lisa Lopez tier. Famed arsonist. What the fuck? Alex, what a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist. Always the best. Thank you. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? I have a show called You Are Good and Feeling Spycast about movies where we talk about movies and therapy and feelings and stuff. And then I have another show called The O.C. Again,

which is an O.C. rewatch show. And And finally a zine subscription service called high culture culture. Nice. Yes. Then I'm on the internet under my name. There you go. Which is spelled S T E E D. That is it. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?

I watched a different man. Finally. I hadn't seen that movie and I loved it. That's the one with a Sebastian Stan. And it was wonderful. I was like being John Malkovich vibes in a tremendous way. Oh, interesting. Yeah. I heard that's the one that like put him on the map for the Trump movie, but it's

like better than the Trump movie. It's essentially remarkable. It is truly remarkable. I can't recommend it enough. Nice. Miles, where can people find you? Is there work in media you've been enjoying? Well, you can find me at my bank asking for a loan

so I can get this motherfucking Prometheus pass. But if you look for me on social media at Miles of Gray, wherever they have at symbols, find Jack and I on the basketball podcast, Miles and Jack got mad boosties where we record an episode before the Lakers played the Mavericks. I'm like, yeah, we'll see what happens. Wow. Great time.

Great time. Great time. Looking good. It's not great. Great time was had against a depleted Maverick side. But also find me on 420 Day Fiancé, talking about 90 Day Fiancé. We're on season 11 of 90 Day Fiancé, episode 2. We'll be streaming today if you're interested. Also, let's see, a little work of media.

It's actually a tweet. First one is from at Rachel Lapides, L-A-P-I-D-E-S, tweeted, why is improv always comedy? I want to attend an improvised slice of life family drama. Because I'm like, that would take really significant levels of improv know how to do that. Rory Scoville did one at Elysian a while ago with Chad, the clown guy, and they did it.

And it was a play. And I learned at the end, it was so convincing. I mean, it had comedy in it. But it was so convincing that I learned after the fact it was improv'd on the spot. A fucking Rory Scoffles, a goddamn Jesus. Oh really? You thought it was like real?

I was like, oh, this is like off the wall, but like whatever. And then I learned after that it was improv'd in real time. A guy, they had a delivery guy come and deliver something on stage who didn't know he was on improv. And he's the one who explained to the audience after the fact that this was improv. Oh my god. I hope that person if they ever get to the illusion check out any of Chad's clown things or

or Rory Scoville anything. Also I love this video from at Alex Byron comedy tweeted. Please rate my Elon Musk impression I shaved and bought Tron sunglasses and this is just a pretty solid Elon impression. Do you condemn the CCP's treatment of the Uyghurs? Yeah. Yeah, it's not really about that. He looks like Everything to be easy now on Mars. It's gonna be really hard. Yeah, so We're gonna wish there were Uyghurs. Would you try to get a breeding cake? I have a breeding cake! Yeah it's like well population is pretty much receding it everywhere and that's a real problem that we have. And, you know, really good. Yeah. I was gonna bring it. Guess what about Grimes? Are you preventing Grimes from seeing her children

out of spite? Yeah, no. We're gonna have kids, right? And it takes a lot of time. People don't understand that, yeah, because of the Wolf Mind virus. You got, oh, but listen to the song, right? This is, right?

["Wolf Mind Virus"] ["Wolf Mind Virus"] Right? It's ridiculous. It's Okay. It's so ridiculous. It goes on for like another minute. But yeah, that's Alex Byron comedy. Amazing. Can I boost a tweet real quick?

I totally forgot earlier. This is from Blue Sky. I should be specific. This is from my partner in the podcast, the OC again, Nico Stratis, who has a book coming out called The Dad Rock That Made Me A Woman. But this is my favorite.

It's time for the Milk Hotel to choose a side. No longer. Can you be neutral? That one did me. That's great. Work of Media, I've been enjoying, I liked the movie Kneecap about an Irish rap group that raps in Irish, like the old Irish. And it's a lot of fun. You can find me on Twitter at Jack Hunderscore O'Brien. You can find me on

BlueSky at Jack Obi, the number one on BlueSky. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist, and on BlueSky at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com. You can go to the episode wherever you're listening to this and check out the description. And there you will find the footnotes, which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think people might enjoy?

You know, keeping the theme of Radegan, I just want to also go out on this track, because if you haven't seen the Radegan video, I don't know if we should make, we'll put in the footnotes footnotes for this episode. But the track that absolutely makes this crowd in Antigua lose it is this track, Substitute Lover by Half Pipe. And it came out like in the 90s, but it's just a, it's a banger. And just, I think watching the people react to it at this sound clash made me love the song even more.

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